One of the greatest masterpiece played by one of the greatest interpreter! The audience barely even moved, everyone there was deeply touched. Seems makes the applause unnecessary if one wants to stay in heaven forever
I personally prefer this piece slightly slower than his performance, but I find no fault with his interpretation and certainly not his musicality. I was moved as deeply from this performance as I have, which is my 'gold standard' for artistic greatness. As to your question about his tempo, everyone who is as skilled , talented and educated as Sir Andras Schiff is, has license to interpret music how they see fit, which is always based on study and understanding of the music they have chosen to share with us. I have heard him say that he is open to discussion about musical differences and opinions other than his, but they need to have supportive evidence and not just phrased as "I like the way it feels". Even though I might disagree with his tempo, he more than makes up for that minor difference with his purposeful use of rubato and phrasing. When this beautiful piece is performed as he does in this video, I cry every time I hear it. He understands, interprets and tells Brahm's musical story for us to hear, and I am grateful for having seen this video. Thank you for posting this!
1:29 I agree...e.g. the left hand plays a beautiful phrase, rising to a lovely climax, but it is totally lost in his interpretation. Gould, on the other hand, really brings it to the fore. Check it out.
Schiff brings out new things -- musical ideas -- in this piece I have heard from no other pianist. I would call his interpretation as close to perfection as is humanly possible.
My usual go-to rendition for this piece is Radu Lupu's slower version, which I always find nostalgic and pensive, but as I am listening to this by Sir Schiff, actually I realize I don't mind the faster tempo. The way that he brings out the main melody, together with his efficient use of the sustain pedal, goes well with the speed he sets, which adds crystal-clear purity and graceful fluidity to this romantic intermezzo. Chapeau!
yes, FAST was the first impression of Sir Schiff's interpretation. However, I then deeply-touched by the way he pedals and how he keeps those note- especially something in the messo area. Truly persuasive.
@@pabloalfonsoechaurren6406 composer writes Andante for a reason, interpreter needs a strong reason to overrule, that would be fine. Just don't feel it that way is not a strong reason for players. As for listener, nobody should really care. Lot of them are just stuck in their first favorite version and compare everything else with it without even read the score. Your comment made me highly believed you are of of those people
@@洋鸽哥 i believe youre highly confused. 1st of all, listeners should not care? If there is a reason the composer writes everything they write is for listeners my friend. Secondly and most important, you missed the whole point of my comment. Can you tell me what exact metronome is "andante"?
@Pablo Alfonso Echaurren 1st I make my decision of how to play a good piece by study the score, don't care about listeners. 2nd, Brahms write lots thing for his friends which all of them are highly musical educated, and he certainly writes also for himself, like a journal. Lots of composers do. If they write things for hobby music lovers there is not many information written, because they all know lot of people wouldn't comprehend. This piece is certainly a piece for himself. 3rd, Andante for you means doesn't matter, as in your first comment. That made me little pissed, so please don't my friend me and I'm not confused.. For me and lot others Andante means walking pace, not a single metronome number but has a rang depending on people and moods. Because lot of brahms's works sound beautiful slower or faster, and Andante is often played on a slow side.. I actually compared all his Andante music, and read lots of the story's behind them. That's our differences
@@洋鸽哥 every piece is Made to be listened at, and listeners listen. Also, you didnt understand at all. I didnt say andante doesnt matter, i said that it's relative. You can't give me a metronome number so that proves my point. Walking piece can be walking faster or slower. Everything you say proves my point.
Actually I have noticed that Mr. Schiff always likes to mention in his masterclasses/lectures that people nowadays usually play andante too slowly (e.g. in Beethoven sonata 30, the last movement), not in a walking speed. In this video ruclips.net/video/oiVRwRGc_L8/видео.html (27:17) Arthur Rubinstein also wanted the student to play this piece in a quicker tempo. It is not suffering, he said.
The people in those times were walking really fast, more like running. If you listen closely and imagine people walking or running to this interpretation, it's obvious: running. So he is 100 percent accurate. Life is too slow nowadays, people not used to the ancient tempi.
Truly a spectacular performance, just a bit too fast for my preference. I’m currently learning this one, and it’s a heavily expressive piece, which Mr Schiff clearly demonstrates here.
I'm learning this piece too and I think Mr Schiff doesn't "linger"at key moments. Brahms's cradtmanship is undoubted, of course - not a note too many or too few. That's the discipline of the Classical School shining through a Romantic work.
if you all please listen to Dominic Cheli play the same piece at a different speed, not forgetting sometimes comparison is the source of unhappiness. No judgement her.
Yes! That’s a problem with interpretations of Brahms, generally. The grandeur is inherent in the music, but so many performers and conductors feel the need to exaggerate the pauses and slow it down to where it becomes ponderous.
Tempo is not just about how fast or slow the piece should be played, more often it’s about the feelings and spiritual sides of the piece. For me, this feels too rush for Andante. Nonetheless, the melodic lines are very pretty and chords’ voicing is really good.
These are subjective impressions, so I'm not arguing with anyone here who likes the tempo Schiff has chosen. But to me, it says "let's get this over with."
It doesn't feel that way to me at all. On the contrary the rhythm feels natural and radiates a hopeful tone. It can be a case of familiarity for us. I heard Schiff's playing with this preferred tempo first before I've heard Lupu, Kovacevich and many others. As a consequence, some of these seem to me to be excruciatingly too slow as if 'milking it' but I know it's not so.
Schiff will play an entire program the day before the performance just to check if he is happy with the acoustics of an auditorium. There is no ''let's get this over'' with a man of this calibre.
Three comments: 1. I LOVE the tempo, finally someone who understands this piece has been DRUG to DEATH! It's about love and passion, NOT sorrow! 2. The inner voices in the repeat of the 2nd part is spectacular because so few pay attention! 3. However the last section continuing to the end is disappointing because it could have so much more to say than a drudgery march off to war! I've never been a great fan of Shiff, but he comes close on this one.
He doesn't savour those great melodic surges because, overall, the tempo is too rushed. Sorry, I know he's a great artist but.....well, it's a matter of personal taste.
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This piece gets me every time.
One of the greatest masterpiece played by one of the greatest interpreter! The audience barely even moved, everyone there was deeply touched. Seems makes the applause unnecessary if one wants to stay in heaven forever
I personally prefer this piece slightly slower than his performance, but I find no fault with his interpretation and certainly not his musicality. I was moved as deeply from this performance as I have, which is my 'gold standard' for artistic greatness. As to your question about his tempo, everyone who is as skilled , talented and educated as Sir Andras Schiff is, has license to interpret music how they see fit, which is always based on study and understanding of the music they have chosen to share with us. I have heard him say that he is open to discussion about musical differences and opinions other than his, but they need to have supportive evidence and not just phrased as "I like the way it feels". Even though I might disagree with his tempo, he more than makes up for that minor difference with his purposeful use of rubato and phrasing. When this beautiful piece is performed as he does in this video, I cry every time I hear it. He understands, interprets and tells Brahm's musical story for us to hear, and I am grateful for having seen this video. Thank you for posting this!
1:29 I agree...e.g. the left hand plays a beautiful phrase, rising to a lovely climax, but it is totally lost in his interpretation. Gould, on the other hand, really brings it to the fore. Check it out.
Absolutely beautiful, it’s not too fast at all. The maestro knows best.
No way this is "andante teneramente" as the score indicates
I like how the music just flows into the heart, effortlessly
Schiff brings out new things -- musical ideas -- in this piece I have heard from no other pianist. I would call his interpretation as close to perfection as is humanly possible.
Just perfect! And you’re right: Sublime. Thank you.
My usual go-to rendition for this piece is Radu Lupu's slower version, which I always find nostalgic and pensive, but as I am listening to this by Sir Schiff, actually I realize I don't mind the faster tempo. The way that he brings out the main melody, together with his efficient use of the sustain pedal, goes well with the speed he sets, which adds crystal-clear purity and graceful fluidity to this romantic intermezzo. Chapeau!
An absolutely beautiful piece of music.
yes, FAST was the first impression of Sir Schiff's interpretation. However, I then deeply-touched by the way he pedals and how he keeps those note- especially something in the messo area. Truly persuasive.
Tears lingering in my eyes since the first note drops.
It's andante, not adagio or largo or lento. It's definitely not too fast!
That doesnt mean anything. Ultimately it's how you feel/think an andante tempo should be in a particular piece. To me, it's a bit too fast.
@@pabloalfonsoechaurren6406 composer writes Andante for a reason, interpreter needs a strong reason to overrule, that would be fine. Just don't feel it that way is not a strong reason for players. As for listener, nobody should really care. Lot of them are just stuck in their first favorite version and compare everything else with it without even read the score. Your comment made me highly believed you are of of those people
@@洋鸽哥 i believe youre highly confused. 1st of all, listeners should not care? If there is a reason the composer writes everything they write is for listeners my friend. Secondly and most important, you missed the whole point of my comment. Can you tell me what exact metronome is "andante"?
@Pablo Alfonso Echaurren 1st I make my decision of how to play a good piece by study the score, don't care about listeners. 2nd, Brahms write lots thing for his friends which all of them are highly musical educated, and he certainly writes also for himself, like a journal. Lots of composers do. If they write things for hobby music lovers there is not many information written, because they all know lot of people wouldn't comprehend. This piece is certainly a piece for himself. 3rd, Andante for you means doesn't matter, as in your first comment. That made me little pissed, so please don't my friend me and I'm not confused.. For me and lot others Andante means walking pace, not a single metronome number but has a rang depending on people and moods. Because lot of brahms's works sound beautiful slower or faster, and Andante is often played on a slow side.. I actually compared all his Andante music, and read lots of the story's behind them. That's our differences
@@洋鸽哥 every piece is Made to be listened at, and listeners listen. Also, you didnt understand at all. I didnt say andante doesnt matter, i said that it's relative. You can't give me a metronome number so that proves my point. Walking piece can be walking faster or slower. Everything you say proves my point.
Actually I have noticed that Mr. Schiff always likes to mention in his masterclasses/lectures that people nowadays usually play andante too slowly (e.g. in Beethoven sonata 30, the last movement), not in a walking speed. In this video ruclips.net/video/oiVRwRGc_L8/видео.html (27:17) Arthur Rubinstein also wanted the student to play this piece in a quicker tempo. It is not suffering, he said.
The people in those times were walking really fast, more like running. If you listen closely and imagine people walking or running to this interpretation, it's obvious: running. So he is 100 percent accurate. Life is too slow nowadays, people not used to the ancient tempi.
What a lyrical interpretation of this piece! His tempo gives it a different character as so many others play this one quite a bit slower.
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The whole piece is really beautiful (and I love his interpretation).The section starting at 2:47 never ceases to affect me.
Beautiful...
Brilliant! Intricate!
Truly a spectacular performance, just a bit too fast for my preference. I’m currently learning this one, and it’s a heavily expressive piece, which Mr Schiff clearly demonstrates here.
I'm learning this piece too and I think Mr Schiff doesn't "linger"at key moments. Brahms's cradtmanship is undoubted, of course - not a note too many or too few. That's the discipline of the Classical School shining through a Romantic work.
Mary always loved to play this piece, I remember that grand Hotel we stayed at and she played it for me. In my restless dreams, I see that town.
Who came here and search for this ! after seeing the note in Silent Hill 2 Remake at the Lakeview Hotel !?
Being played too slowly was the prime reason Brahms fell into disfavor in the 1960's and 70's. Brahms requires pace.
if you all please listen to Dominic Cheli play the same piece at a different speed, not forgetting sometimes comparison is the source of unhappiness. No judgement her.
This piece needs to MOVE, most pianists meander and lose the sense of forward momentum that Brahms intended. Schiff does it brilliantly!
Yes! That’s a problem with interpretations of Brahms, generally. The grandeur is inherent in the music, but so many performers and conductors feel the need to exaggerate the pauses and slow it down to where it becomes ponderous.
Tempo is not just about how fast or slow the piece should be played, more often it’s about the feelings and spiritual sides of the piece. For me, this feels too rush for Andante. Nonetheless, the melodic lines are very pretty and chords’ voicing is really good.
These are subjective impressions, so I'm not arguing with anyone here who likes the tempo Schiff has chosen. But to me, it says "let's get this over with."
It doesn't feel that way to me at all. On the contrary the rhythm feels natural and radiates a hopeful tone. It can be a case of familiarity for us. I heard Schiff's playing with this preferred tempo first before I've heard Lupu, Kovacevich and many others. As a consequence, some of these seem to me to be excruciatingly too slow as if 'milking it' but I know it's not so.
I agree you, Allan!!
Schiff will play an entire program the day before the performance just to check if he is happy with the acoustics of an auditorium. There is no ''let's get this over'' with a man of this calibre.
did he have a plane to catch? "andante TENERAMENTE" (tenderly..)
Three comments: 1. I LOVE the tempo, finally someone who understands this piece has been DRUG to DEATH! It's about love and passion, NOT sorrow! 2. The inner voices in the repeat of the 2nd part is spectacular because so few pay attention! 3. However the last section continuing to the end is disappointing because it could have so much more to say than a drudgery march off to war! I've never been a great fan of Shiff, but he comes close on this one.
The ending is very difficult to get the right mood
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I generally love Schiff....but I prefer Gould on this piece
Gould owns it, and seems Schiff addopted his tempo!
He's playing Brahms like Mozart or Bach 😒
Brahms needs heart and passion: sorry for Schiff, but there are better performances
Nothing like a love-letter ro Clara, more like an insensitive waltz.
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Why is he rushing?
Becos it is an encore piece
He doesn't savour those great melodic surges because, overall, the tempo is too rushed. Sorry, I know he's a great artist but.....well, it's a matter of personal taste.
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Lars vogt is the best pianist
not a good performance on this piece. the phrasing and rubato was really lacking.
But we win the melodic lines, I find it interesting 🤗
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His Bach maybe?
His piano sounds too metallic
Pizzaland non è interessante.