@@denismorissette7344 the idea there is to say that the larynx should be low BUT it shouldn’t be forced into a low position. It should also be noted that this is a technique mostly for classical singers.
I‘m always open to try new things/techniques but the thing with a low larynx is - it darkens the sound- very much so. And I don‘t like the sound of my voice when I do that - it doesn‘t suit my vocal style. How can I avoid sounding too dark when lowering my larynx ( and no I‘m Not compressing my tounge/knödeling etc)
There's no hard and fast rule about this. You can still make healthy sound without a low larynx. For me, singing bright and forward is more important. If you can add a low larynx to that without losing your forward/bright position... THEN it really enhances the quality. But it really depends on what you're singing and how you want to sound. First priority is light, bright and forward!
@ Okay I will try. I can feel that lowering my larynx gives me plenty of space in my head voice, especially the high part around F5 - C6. But I need to raise my larynx when singing with a metallic/chest like sound (only sustainable up to A5 though. I don’t sing classically… I suppose I would not sing that high when singing classically. Does this sound have a cap?
@@RaffaelWindgassen No there is no cap. The only limitation is your own physiology. For pop/metal/modern style of singing it's much more acceptable to just sing bright and connected. For higher register it's good practice to work in falsetto and mixed voice. That will give you more extension and is very healthy compared to belting or going with a lot of weight and volume to the top.
Hey so overly dark and weighty sound comes from the larynx being fixed in a low position, which is exactly the issue with titling videos things like "Why a Low Larynx is the SECRET to Amazing Vocals" because lowering your larynx WILL NOT turn you into a good singer. Keeping a low larynx should not be the aim or you'll do it by any means necessary which will ruin your natural sound. A naturally lowered larynx can be achieved by just relaxing your pharynx and then your job as a singer is to put faith in your instrument and support it with the muscles responsible for breathing out. When you hyper focus on lowering the larynx you start to search for the sensation of having it low in order to make you feel safe in your technique but this is over involvement as a lowered larynx just feels loose and relaxed. Larynx movement is a natural part of singing and you shouldn't stand in the way of it, you also don't need to control it, you just need to relax and put faith in your instrument If you have trouble getting in touch with the muscles required to breathe out, try partially covering your mouth with your hand to create resistance (not too tight) and breathe out for reps. Try finding that relaxed pharynx space (look up anatomical diagrams and also release the nasopharynx) and do a released, slow hum that is controlled by the transverse abdominus and so doesn't involve you having to think about anything above the collar bones. You should feel a lot of brightness in the sound. Do that hum slowly and focus on engagement of the breathing out muscles and take it up and down fifths or octaves if you have the strength. The most important matter of this is to put faith in your voice in that you don't need to make it work, it will just work. Good luck
@@Ulterior-l4k not sure what you mean by distortion. I’m not a sound engineer of any sort. But yeah, I would think so… I mean why not. Could be cool. 😎
I'm a lead singer and having trouble with the highest note in Barracuda by Heart. I've approached it a dozen ways and can't figure it out. Can someone help me?
Love it. Usually if you give more energy to notes right before the high note, then the high note will come out better. Of course it could also be a physical limitation. My recommendation is NOT to belt or go with force/volume, but rather use your head voice. Utilise idea of falsetto.
@@brittmoore5557 agreed. Having a coach is a good idea of your serious about your craft. I checked out your channel btw, you have a beautiful voice. I’d be happy to hop on a call and talk shop if you like.
Sorry if I am mistaken but I thought that note you played was an A3? I notice a definite change around this point in my voice too and after much study I know that people who don't tend to lighten and "mix" get stuck in a shouty place around A4. I could be completely wrong but presumed that it was the octave above that your guy was referring to getting stuck at. Great videos and wonderful voice by the way 👍👌
You are absolutely right, Craig! My bad. I've never been clear on those octave designations. Darn. I'll address approaching the high voice in my next video! Thanks for the correction, and the compliment!
Will look forward to the next video!!! Any chance you could give some pointers on starting to get that classical sound. The elusive "full sounding" Tom Jones type sound. @@Anders_Ray_Voice
@@craig2380 How does one learn how to sing like Tom Jones??? Best question ever! Haha. I mean he's a total legend with incredible natural facility... but for sure, I'll talk about this in my next video. Thanks Craig!
If you have any experience in choir (excuse me not being aware of your backround), can you maybe demonstrate how to sing correctly but not louder than the other singers, while silmutanusely hearing and watching the maestro. Also are there any excersises for this or is it only done through experience? Thank you for this video too, it was very enlightening!
That's a great question, Nikolas. I do sing in a professional chorus. That's my "day" job. I freelance and teach as well which is more my passion but less of my money! I can talk about this in my next video, but yes it is mostly a question of experience when it comes to producing a healthy and balanced choral sound. In general though, I always promote good technique above all else.
Some of my best songs were recorded after recovering from Covid with a speaking voice that would rival Sam Elliott.🤷♂ Probably not the best thing for the long-term but hey, I'm 52, I'm not about to launch a debut life-long career. I've only got a decade or so left in me. 🤣
messa di voce has nothing to do with tables... you're thinking of the Spanish "mesa" there, and there is no connection to the Italian term. Messa is an old term that would be "emissione" in modern Italian, emission of the voice.
@@simong8527 That is absolutely correct. I should be more clear in my videos that I'm using the term loosely, since the literal definition is placement or placing of the voice.
After sitting through 30 seconds of listening to what user handle said a certain thing, I had to bail on this video. My advice would be to just get to the point without all of the unnecessary filler content.
"Floating low larynx" is an expression to remember!
@@denismorissette7344 the idea there is to say that the larynx should be low BUT it shouldn’t be forced into a low position. It should also be noted that this is a technique mostly for classical singers.
I‘m always open to try new things/techniques but the thing with a low larynx is - it darkens the sound- very much so.
And I don‘t like the sound of my voice when I do that - it doesn‘t suit my vocal style.
How can I avoid sounding too dark when lowering my larynx ( and no I‘m Not compressing my tounge/knödeling etc)
Thing is: I like brassy sounding vocals (Chaka Khan, Adam Lambert)
There's no hard and fast rule about this. You can still make healthy sound without a low larynx. For me, singing bright and forward is more important. If you can add a low larynx to that without losing your forward/bright position... THEN it really enhances the quality.
But it really depends on what you're singing and how you want to sound. First priority is light, bright and forward!
@
Okay I will try.
I can feel that lowering my larynx gives me plenty of space in my head voice, especially the high part around F5 - C6.
But I need to raise my larynx when singing with a metallic/chest like sound (only sustainable up to A5 though.
I don’t sing classically… I suppose I would not sing that high when singing classically.
Does this sound have a cap?
@@RaffaelWindgassen No there is no cap. The only limitation is your own physiology.
For pop/metal/modern style of singing it's much more acceptable to just sing bright and connected. For higher register it's good practice to work in falsetto and mixed voice. That will give you more extension and is very healthy compared to belting or going with a lot of weight and volume to the top.
Hey so overly dark and weighty sound comes from the larynx being fixed in a low position, which is exactly the issue with titling videos things like "Why a Low Larynx is the SECRET to Amazing Vocals" because lowering your larynx WILL NOT turn you into a good singer. Keeping a low larynx should not be the aim or you'll do it by any means necessary which will ruin your natural sound. A naturally lowered larynx can be achieved by just relaxing your pharynx and then your job as a singer is to put faith in your instrument and support it with the muscles responsible for breathing out. When you hyper focus on lowering the larynx you start to search for the sensation of having it low in order to make you feel safe in your technique but this is over involvement as a lowered larynx just feels loose and relaxed. Larynx movement is a natural part of singing and you shouldn't stand in the way of it, you also don't need to control it, you just need to relax and put faith in your instrument
If you have trouble getting in touch with the muscles required to breathe out, try partially covering your mouth with your hand to create resistance (not too tight) and breathe out for reps. Try finding that relaxed pharynx space (look up anatomical diagrams and also release the nasopharynx) and do a released, slow hum that is controlled by the transverse abdominus and so doesn't involve you having to think about anything above the collar bones. You should feel a lot of brightness in the sound. Do that hum slowly and focus on engagement of the breathing out muscles and take it up and down fifths or octaves if you have the strength.
The most important matter of this is to put faith in your voice in that you don't need to make it work, it will just work. Good luck
Hello
Do you think it would be possible to add distortion to this dark operatic singing technique?(Like distortion in metal vocals)
@@Ulterior-l4k not sure what you mean by distortion. I’m not a sound engineer of any sort. But yeah, I would think so… I mean why not. Could be cool. 😎
@Anders_Ray_Voice thanks for the reply
I mean vocal distortion like rasp
Metal vocalists do that
You can do kind of frog sounds with these vocals
I dont feel so weird recording in the kitchen anymore 😂 thanks for the video
@@AndyIntharaphithak haha, thanks. It is what is I’m afraid. #cityliving
I'm a lead singer and having trouble with the highest note in Barracuda by Heart. I've approached it a dozen ways and can't figure it out. Can someone help me?
it's probably out of your range, are u able to pitch the song down a semitone and try it
Love it. Usually if you give more energy to notes right before the high note, then the high note will come out better. Of course it could also be a physical limitation. My recommendation is NOT to belt or go with force/volume, but rather use your head voice. Utilise idea of falsetto.
@@Anders_Ray_Voice my advice is getting a vocal coach if you haven't already. I can suggest a very good one that has helped me A TON.
@@brittmoore5557 agreed. Having a coach is a good idea of your serious about your craft. I checked out your channel btw, you have a beautiful voice. I’d be happy to hop on a call and talk shop if you like.
Can you give us a demonstration on your channel?
Sorry if I am mistaken but I thought that note you played was an A3?
I notice a definite change around this point in my voice too and after much study I know that people who don't tend to lighten and "mix" get stuck in a shouty place around A4.
I could be completely wrong but presumed that it was the octave above that your guy was referring to getting stuck at. Great videos and wonderful voice by the way 👍👌
You are absolutely right, Craig! My bad. I've never been clear on those octave designations. Darn. I'll address approaching the high voice in my next video! Thanks for the correction, and the compliment!
Will look forward to the next video!!!
Any chance you could give some pointers on starting to get that classical sound.
The elusive "full sounding" Tom Jones type sound. @@Anders_Ray_Voice
@@craig2380 Haha for sure. Will do.
@@craig2380 How does one learn how to sing like Tom Jones??? Best question ever! Haha. I mean he's a total legend with incredible natural facility... but for sure, I'll talk about this in my next video. Thanks Craig!
If you have any experience in choir (excuse me not being aware of your backround), can you maybe demonstrate how to sing correctly but not louder than the other singers, while silmutanusely hearing and watching the maestro. Also are there any excersises for this or is it only done through experience? Thank you for this video too, it was very enlightening!
That's a great question, Nikolas. I do sing in a professional chorus. That's my "day" job. I freelance and teach as well which is more my passion but less of my money!
I can talk about this in my next video, but yes it is mostly a question of experience when it comes to producing a healthy and balanced choral sound. In general though, I always promote good technique above all else.
@@Anders_Ray_Voicethank you a lot for your answer. I hope you do talk about it in the next video, it would be very helpful!!
Some of my best songs were recorded after recovering from Covid with a speaking voice that would rival Sam Elliott.🤷♂ Probably not the best thing for the long-term but hey, I'm 52, I'm not about to launch a debut life-long career. I've only got a decade or so left in me. 🤣
messa di voce has nothing to do with tables... you're thinking of the Spanish "mesa" there, and there is no connection to the Italian term. Messa is an old term that would be "emissione" in modern Italian, emission of the voice.
Thanks Valentina. I may be wrong about the etymology but it definitely refers to placing of the voice. Of that much I'm sure.
@@Anders_Ray_Voicemessa di voce is singing from quiet to loud and back. It’s volume and pressure control. It’s a stylistic choice
@@simong8527 That is absolutely correct. I should be more clear in my videos that I'm using the term loosely, since the literal definition is placement or placing of the voice.
After sitting through 30 seconds of listening to what user handle said a certain thing, I had to bail on this video. My advice would be to just get to the point without all of the unnecessary filler content.
Fair enough. Thanks for the pointer. I'll hire an editor some day soon I'm sure.
I didn’t mind it, though if he wanted to appease both parties he could always just put a time stamp where he addresses the title
@ thanks for the suggestion. Timestamps are definitely on the agenda! 😆
Great information! Thanks!
@@wdaaaa1 My pleasure!
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@@Anders_Ray_Voice salamat po nais ko po kasing matuto