I really liked how this episode was just him satisfying his curiosity. I'd love to see more episodes where the Doctor chases after a mystery that intrigues them.
I know this is a old comment but I feel like I have to post a comment to this as well I would also like more episodes like this or a episode that actually explain why he like time traveling like maybe him going to a different time and not have a ancient evil or the cybermen or another bad guy he has to fight just one episode where he can sit down and relax and realize he gone though a lot of pain and he just relaxes and enjoys a peaceful day
@KVAcedo27 Old comment but I just wanted to add that canon-wise, the TARDIS would probably say okay to that and bring the TARDIS team to such a place except it lands just in time for impending doom of death. That said, the TARDIS crew have probably done that, its just that because of the Doctor's or companion's curiosity that gets them into trouble anyways
12 so op he: 1. Sensed something on his roof 2. Climbed up there just to meditate (Eventually forcing Sutekh to not even trying to move a muscle just in case) 3. Yapped about LITERALLY the exact same thing Sutekh was just doing 4. Without even knowing, he scared the shit out of literal God of Death 5. Refused to elaborate and carried on with traveling (leaving Sutekh shocked asf, wondering if 12 knows or not)
The excessive focus on Clara and Danny reduced the potential of this episode. As it stands, it's still high caliber, even though it could have been more.
I like the idea of a creature that is so advanced at hiding that even the time lords didn’t know about it & a TARDIS can’t detect it. Edit: WHERE’S MY ROYALTIES CHECK, RTD?! sutekh: I’ve got you right where I want you, Doctor! 12: Isn’t it crazy that there are beings that are hiding from me rn sutekh: Ain’t no way!
It's sort of like an audience in front of a screen, you know. We don't speak to the characters, we are not known to them; we listen. That's all we do. Just listen. Always listen. They never even know we are there. But in some moments, they choose, for no particular reason, to speak out loud; with no benefit whatsoever except that we can follow their thoughts.
I wish this episode aired BEFORE the Silence was revealed in the 11th Doctor's reign. Would have been amazing discovering a previous entity's true nature later on like this
well there's still time for a new reveal for a creature, maybe even a different species branch of silence with this skill instead of the memory thing. maybe they inhabit mondas instead of earth?
Quite a weird episode but probably one of my favorite ever pre-credit scenes in doctor who. Also I would like more episodes where the doctor’s goal is to test a theory he has, make him seem less like he knows everything
It’s crazy to come back to this knowing that Sutekh was on the Tardis the whole time. Meaning the 12th Doctor was going insane for thinking he wasn’t alone lol
This is my favorite scene in entire series! And i think nobody could play this better than capaldi, i don’t understand why people didn’t see how great of a doctor he was
This is so good cause they take such a simple thing as a creature hiding under your bed and grabing your foot, a dream that is extremely common and they make a whole episode about. Simple and terrifying.
TheWickedWizardOfOz1 OH MY GOSH! That's such a clever idea! At some point The Doctor invites a silent to be his companion and he just always forgets about them! XD Sounds like a great premise for a comic or something.
I like to think that maybe the creature is us, the audience (I think someone in the comments already pointed that out). We're listening to him giving his speech while he can't see us, but somehow he's breaking the fourth wall in a brilliant way and tbh it makes the episode even more chilling and terrifying
@@robodoesedits8666 Yep, and chameleons don't change color at will to hide, their colors only show their emotions, Octopuses can change color and texture at will
An intriguing and scary episode with the good doctor. In the first few minutes, by simply talking about perfect hiding, it elevates the next 40 minutes. Take a common fearful dream, a brilliantly written opening, and an amazing episode is there to enjoy. Very smart storytelling, as it takes truths, ties up loose ends and makes it scary. Is it fact or fiction. ? Is there really perfect hiding. ? Answer yourself one question, have you ever talked out loud while thinking as most people have. ?
Doesn't the end actually prove that the creature exists? I know the whole point of the episode is that it's left to be vague and that Clara was the start of the Doctor's obsession. But the fact that something else other than the Doctor wrote on the board clearly shows that there is some kind of entity.
Untrue. The series has showed numerous times that The Doctor can be very scatterbrained at times. It is IMPLIED that someone else other than The Doctor wrote it, but he could've easily written it absentmindedly and forgotten. To further support this, there are two blackboards shown and we never saw what was written on the second one till the end ("LISTEN" may have been on it the whole time), and The Doctor could've knocked the chalk off the book without noticing.
Lewis Murphy That was one of Danny's friends playing a trick on him and really didn't want to be caught by an adult and so didn't show themself. It really was just a child all along, The Doctor pointed this out as a possibility. Clara's descendant was just paranoid. That tends to happen when you're under a lot of stress (being alone for a long time).
Supah Loren Enterprises i can get that but if you look at the episode again you actually see the person take off off the blanket and you get a peek of what was under there now it was a peak but it wasn't fucking human
Lewis Murphy It's waaaay too blurry to tell anything about what it is. Heck, Danny's "friend" could've been wearing a scary mask to scare him or something.
its actually perfectly reasonable One of my favourite books has the line 'Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face.' All those time your survival instinct missfires and the hairs stand up on your neck, that weird little feeling you get that tells you there's something behind you, maybe they're not missfires at all.
I really like this episode because of its vagueness. Throughout the episode we are told how it might be a crazy monster and than we are provided with a reassuring explanation that we can either believe or not believe.
And it's also even weirder when you remember that the most logical answer for what the monster is you The doctor Distressed over the constant feeling of being watched As constantly watching him: I wonder what the monster is
This might just be me but in my opinion this is the scariest episode even tho there are plenty of terrifying monsters in the program. Nothing compares to the fear and monsters created by the human mind.
this was definitely one of Moffat's creepier episodes. It wasn't quite creepy enough to prevent me from falling asleep that night like Blink did (partly because I watched it on demand during the day), but definitely a good one nonetheless. Not everything has to be perfectly creepy to still have you questioning your paranoia or lack thereof.
Unless he wrote it himself (it IS in his handwriting after all) and forgot in the mania of his question. Not that I believe that myself, but it's not impossible.
Funny, I just listened to Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir" and the beginning lyrics made me think of this episode: "Oh let the sun beat down upon my face, and stars fill my dream. I'm a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been. To sit with elders of the gentle race, this world has seldom seen. They talk of days for which they sit and wait, all will be revealed".
Funny thing about showing the lions as perfect hunters is they have a pretty bad hunt/kill ratio that barely eclipses Cheetahs. The best hunter, at least in the cat world is the Leopard.
i would more scared with a honey badger than being face to face with a lion. if the lion wanted you dead you wouldnt be standing face to face with it as long as you dont run do anything silly it wont kill you honey badgers dont give a shit if you're an elephant it will still try kill you
I believe he means this creature is perfect for hunting/ defending (plz don't take this seriously this is just me trying to make sense of the conclusion your all coming to) but all and all its a very good point
This episode gave me flipping nightmares because it just makes sense those creatures could be out there but we just wouldn't know and we will never know...
I'd like to believe that such a creature does exist. But it was just messing with the Doctor and did not mean him any harm. Or for him to go wildly across space and time to complete a time loop.
« what would you do » « Listen » I wonder if the perfect camouflaged species exist and if so it would be ok to assume that they don’t see as they don’t need to because they are invisible. So maybe they are friendly and just « observe » the universe. Or in their words they would « listen » Just a funny thought.
It's sort of like an audience in front of a screen, you know. We don't speak to the characters, we are not known to them; we listen. That's all we do. Just listen. Always listen. They never even know we are there. But in some moments, they choose, for no particular reason, to speak out loud; with no benefit whatsoever except that we can follow their thoughts.
I’ve heard one person say it could’ve been the silence, which I believe makes the most sense. There ability to be forgotten the moment there victims look away is a perfect adaptation for hiding. Cuz think about it, how can a wildebeest run from away from a Lion , if it immediately forgets about the Lion even being there in the first place, as the Lion goes back to stalking its prey to get closer to it.
If you are speaking about a theory of what it was in the actual episode: The doctor knows how to tell himself there are Silence around by marking his arms and face. He would've done so if he saw them. And then it's mystery solved. If you are speaking if the silence are a candidate for a creature with perfect hiding: yep, could very well fit that category in a roundabout way.
My theory is that The Silence are the second best hiders but something else is the perfect hider. I also like the theory that the audience is the best hiders but I like the idea that there is something else so good at hiding, even we'll never see it.
I be loving this episode. Ever since me and the lads saw it, We found ourselves sitting down in meditating positions in the middle o the night in a pitch black room or outside where no sound can be heard. I shut me eyes and listened. And I did hear things within me surroundings. I be swearing that I heard footsteps once when I knew no sailor were on deck. Maybe there really be something there after all. (No surprise in me book considering that me and me crew encountered the supernatural before.)
this was a fucking great episode and one of the few i liked after matt smith left, great writing, if the Peter Capaldi era had been more of this... bloody hell. it would have been great. and there are some good episodes like this during capaldi, just not enough
I think about this almost every time I start explaining something on screen. it is like someone is in the room listening to me explain. influencing me in doing so, to speak out loud an talk about what I'm watching
Well yes but no. They really didnt perfect hiding at all. They get seen all the time. Yet they erase themselves from memory. Does that mean they were never found? No, so it's not truly perfect. Something that's truly perfected hiding, is something we can't even imagine exists. Seeing is acknowledging the fact of it's existence, so if you can never see then did it truly exist? Idk lol
Maybe it comes in for him to be there or maybe he’s sitting on it (probably painful) as he’s propped up from his legs more than just the slope would provide.
As much as I love this idea and the exploration of this episode, we talk aloud when we're alone because we're highly social animals and need to fill the gap. Not because we're afraid we're not.
Not mutually exclusive, to a self aware and highly social being, loneliness is a logical fear. Especially given how quickly we lose our sanity when we are alone.
Right, please tell me I'm not the only one who talks to herself all the time. Sometimes I imagine I'm explaining or describing or acting out something with someone else, but never just air...
An enemy that by design, can't be seen simply because it doesn't want to be. This concept terrifies me and excites me. It hits that thriller sweet-spot in my mind that makes me enjoy youtubers like Twin Paranormal, Jasko and PROJECT FEAR.
I've decided to rewatch 12s run while I wait for Series 14/Season 1. Man, some of these 12th doctor episoes are such bangers. You could tell they were really trying to play with the format and create creepy mind-bending episodes like these.
stop and think about it ... he stated the premise a creature that has developed perfect camouflage ... then he poses the question What would one do with that trait ... listening is an excellent answer ... ones actions and words when matched show who or what they are about and if they can or can not be trusted ... you LEARN more from listening than you do from acting ...
what really made it very funny is that if you watch doctor who a couple of times you will see theres always a light on the top of the tardis and now hes sitting on the top of the tardis xD
Sort of sad that when he talks about perfect defense it doesn’t cut to a weeping Angel as the doctor himself said their quantum lock is the greatest defense “because you can’t kill a stone”
Kind of wish there was a follow-up episode on this not too many episodes. I wouldn't want the creature to become like the weeping angels and the silence. Too much of them and they just don't seem that scary anymore. But the idea that someone is following the doctor a companion that's been with him since the beginning. That would be legit.
I like to imagine this implies the viewers of Dr Who are in a way canon. The only thing a viewer can do is watch and listen, but no one else on the world can interact with them in any way, nor could their existence ever be proven.
It's weird that it took the doctor this long to have an extra Central crisis over it. When he's directly talked to us In his first and fourth incarnation and probably a couple other times But this also contradicts the other times Where we exist in ken and like when the thirteenth the doctor trapped us in a time loop And the chris we master used us as a human sheild but then murdered us
I have an interesting question to pose, in addition to 12th's one about the idea of a creature with Perfect Hiding. Given it'd fall in line with Perfect Hunting, Perfect Defense, AND Perfect Hiding.. What about a lifeform with Perfect Detection?
I think for perfect defense they should have shown a weeping angel. I imagine they were trying to be "down to earth" so to speak, but it's Doctor Who, we know there are much more defended things in their universe than a puffer fish.
Or maybe it was one of the other kids for whatever reason. The ambiguity is the point, second only to the idea that maybe we're better off not knowing for sure.
Doesn’t this idea fit very well with the concepts of imaginary friends. Things that nobody sees and yet we’re certain that something is there and we talk to them.
Can you give us an update on if you watched it? I love old Doctor Who as well and Peter Capaldi's Doctor as well as Series 9 is in my opinion the perfect mesh of the old and new series in a lot of places.
I like this episode but I am sort of annoyed by the implication that nothing is actually there- If they had a bit less evidence, then sure, but there's so much stuff that happens that it strains plausibility for that to be the case and makes the characters seem a bit dumb. Fortunately it's left ambiguous so you can just choose to believe either (I think there is something there) but I think the way it is the implication contradicts the evidence a bit.
I feel like they missed a big opportunity to make a scary monster from this instead of just saying that you're paranoid. like the living shadows but scarier.
I really liked how this episode was just him satisfying his curiosity. I'd love to see more episodes where the Doctor chases after a mystery that intrigues them.
I know this is a old comment but I feel like I have to post a comment to this as well
I would also like more episodes like this or a episode that actually explain why he like time traveling like maybe him going to a different time and not have a ancient evil or the cybermen or another bad guy he has to fight just one episode where he can sit down and relax and realize he gone though a lot of pain and he just relaxes and enjoys a peaceful day
@KVAcedo27 Old comment but I just wanted to add that canon-wise, the TARDIS would probably say okay to that and bring the TARDIS team to such a place except it lands just in time for impending doom of death.
That said, the TARDIS crew have probably done that, its just that because of the Doctor's or companion's curiosity that gets them into trouble anyways
@@MrsMoores old comment, but this one isn't a old comment
I'm responding ONLY BECAUSE my like on your comment brought it to 666
it also shows why he must never travel alone. he starts doing crazy dangrous things with nobody to stop him
12 so op he:
1. Sensed something on his roof
2. Climbed up there just to meditate (Eventually forcing Sutekh to not even trying to move a muscle just in case)
3. Yapped about LITERALLY the exact same thing Sutekh was just doing
4. Without even knowing, he scared the shit out of literal God of Death
5. Refused to elaborate and carried on with traveling (leaving Sutekh shocked asf, wondering if 12 knows or not)
sutekh: I’ve got you right where I want you, Doctor!
12: Isn’t it crazy that there are beings that are hiding from me rn
sutekh: Ain’t no way!
Can't understand why so few people liked this episode. I enjoyed it particularly thanks to this speech !
Jean-Pierre Coffre probably because the ending
It's my favourite ever doctor who episode
It's because of the childhood stuff and the ending. The speech is wonderful. Capaldi is wonderful.
PixelLightShow the replacer* (presumably) I think that’s the scariest of every episode for sure! Very good pick!
The excessive focus on Clara and Danny reduced the potential of this episode. As it stands, it's still high caliber, even though it could have been more.
The Doctor breaking the fourth wall and the Doctor just being bored and talking to himself are both equally valid explanations, and I love it.
He could also be talking directly to the creature too. Even if he doesn't know it exists yet or is even there
@@calliecalamity8787Maybe the real creature was us all along
@@benpecto.benpecilltonno it was sutekh
Hes lowkey breaking the 4th wall by talking to us, but at the same time to himself, but at the same time possibly knowing we're listening
Wild theory but... What if it's all of these at once ? What if the creature the doctor is talking about is us... The viewers ?
I like the idea of a creature that is so advanced at hiding that even the time lords didn’t know about it & a TARDIS can’t detect it.
Edit: WHERE’S MY ROYALTIES CHECK, RTD?!
sutekh: I’ve got you right where I want you, Doctor!
12: Isn’t it crazy that there are beings that are hiding from me rn
sutekh: Ain’t no way!
It's sort of like an audience in front of a screen, you know. We don't speak to the characters, we are not known to them; we listen. That's all we do. Just listen. Always listen. They never even know we are there. But in some moments, they choose, for no particular reason, to speak out loud; with no benefit whatsoever except that we can follow their thoughts.
@@sorrowandsufferin924 So this was pretty meta.
Pro tip : watch series at flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching lots of of movies these days.
@Keegan Garrett definitely, I have been watching on flixzone for since november myself =)
@@keegangarrett329 link please?
0:56 Sutekh holding his breath 😂
Lmao 🤣
I wish this episode aired BEFORE the Silence was revealed in the 11th Doctor's reign. Would have been amazing discovering a previous entity's true nature later on like this
well there's still time for a new reveal for a creature, maybe even a different species branch of silence with this skill instead of the memory thing. maybe they inhabit mondas instead of earth?
@@glados_gaming4170 not a bad idea moving forward
@@glados_gaming4170The whole idea of is it is not meant to be Answered though
It's probably the audience
*laughs in sutekh*
He's makes a good point
Way too good. Couldn't fall asleep that night.
You too, mate? This episode really gave me the creeps!!!
MI982 the first part of the Zygon Inversion I was jumped by some of the scenes and bearly could sleep
Perfect hiding... Chameleon
chameleons don't change there colours to hide, you ignoramus, they change there colours to communicate
Quite a weird episode but probably one of my favorite ever pre-credit scenes in doctor who. Also I would like more episodes where the doctor’s goal is to test a theory he has, make him seem less like he knows everything
It’s crazy to come back to this knowing that Sutekh was on the Tardis the whole time. Meaning the 12th Doctor was going insane for thinking he wasn’t alone lol
This is my favorite Peter Capaldi episode thus far! I love how he runs around based on a wild theory he has just to satisfy his curiosity.
Supah Loren Enterprises
I prefer Heaven Sent. But Listen is really amazing.
agreed
This is my favorite scene in entire series! And i think nobody could play this better than capaldi, i don’t understand why people didn’t see how great of a doctor he was
He's probably my favourite doctor.
Gotta love how the Doctor was literally just sitting up Sutekh’s butt in this scene
This is so good cause they take such a simple thing as a creature hiding under your bed and grabing your foot, a dream that is extremely common and they make a whole episode about. Simple and terrifying.
Silence have perfect hiding skill.
The Doctor's Silent Companion is messing with him again...
So do cephalopods.
TheWickedWizardOfOz1 OH MY GOSH! That's such a clever idea! At some point The Doctor invites a silent to be his companion and he just always forgets about them! XD Sounds like a great premise for a comic or something.
They were engineered. They didn't evolve to be instantly forgotten.
But when you see one again you remember the last times you saw them
If this was on the doctor who channel.
"WELL WHAT WOULD YOU DO?! Subscribe to the official, Doctor Who, youtube channel..."
I like to think that maybe the creature is us, the audience (I think someone in the comments already pointed that out). We're listening to him giving his speech while he can't see us, but somehow he's breaking the fourth wall in a brilliant way and tbh it makes the episode even more chilling and terrifying
Honestly this episode legitimately scared me when I watched it.
Whats the nome of the episode
@@FedericoRaimondo-xk3zw listen
@@FedericoRaimondo-xk3zw S8E4
More scarier now that we know that Sutekh has been travelling with the Doctor all along. 🤯
@@stephenmurphy2212exactly
sutekh: I’ve got you right where I want you, Doctor!
12: Isn’t it crazy that there are beings that are hiding from me rn.
sutekh: Ain’t no way!
"Question: why is there no such thing as perfect hiding?"
Chameleon: "Am I a joke to you?"
Laughs in Dave Bautista
We know it exists, so it isn't perfect hiding.
@@kiaraspirite1268 well we eat pufferfish, so how can that be perfect defense?
naw man those octopuses are the best at hiding, some can blend in perfectly
@@robodoesedits8666 Yep, and chameleons don't change color at will to hide, their colors only show their emotions, Octopuses can change color and texture at will
It was Sutekh who picked up the chalk. Mystery solved.
An intriguing and scary episode with the good doctor. In the first few minutes, by simply talking about perfect hiding, it elevates the next 40 minutes. Take a common fearful dream, a brilliantly written opening, and an amazing episode is there to enjoy. Very smart storytelling, as it takes truths, ties up loose ends and makes it scary. Is it fact or fiction. ? Is there really perfect hiding. ? Answer yourself one question, have you ever talked out loud while thinking as most people have. ?
Peter Capaldi is the master of giving speeches
IT WAS SUTEKH
Oh.. So here you got this from xD
This episode scared the shiznits outta me
Doesn't the end actually prove that the creature exists? I know the whole point of the episode is that it's left to be vague and that Clara was the start of the Doctor's obsession. But the fact that something else other than the Doctor wrote on the board clearly shows that there is some kind of entity.
Untrue. The series has showed numerous times that The Doctor can be very scatterbrained at times. It is IMPLIED that someone else other than The Doctor wrote it, but he could've easily written it absentmindedly and forgotten. To further support this, there are two blackboards shown and we never saw what was written on the second one till the end ("LISTEN" may have been on it the whole time), and The Doctor could've knocked the chalk off the book without noticing.
Supah Loren Enterprises but counterpoint something was under danny's bed covers and Clara's descendant was terrified of something
Lewis Murphy That was one of Danny's friends playing a trick on him and really didn't want to be caught by an adult and so didn't show themself. It really was just a child all along, The Doctor pointed this out as a possibility. Clara's descendant was just paranoid. That tends to happen when you're under a lot of stress (being alone for a long time).
Supah Loren Enterprises i can get that but if you look at the episode again you actually see the person take off off the blanket and you get a peek of what was under there
now it was a peak but it wasn't fucking human
Lewis Murphy It's waaaay too blurry to tell anything about what it is. Heck, Danny's "friend" could've been wearing a scary mask to scare him or something.
This is so intriguing I keep coming back to watch it again.
Out of context, it sounds like he's going insane
And in context, that is exactly how Clara responds to his ramblings in this episode. ;)
its actually perfectly reasonable One of my favourite books has the line 'Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face.' All those time your survival instinct missfires and the hairs stand up on your neck, that weird little feeling you get that tells you there's something behind you, maybe they're not missfires at all.
The One Who Waits was screwing with him.
I really like this episode because of its vagueness. Throughout the episode we are told how it might be a crazy monster and than we are provided with a reassuring explanation that we can either believe or not believe.
And it's also even weirder when you remember that the most logical answer for what the monster is you
The doctor Distressed over the constant feeling of being watched
As constantly watching him: I wonder what the monster is
1:07 Sutekh just proved the Doctor wrong
12 just vibing with the god of death
This might just be me but in my opinion this is the scariest episode even tho there are plenty of terrifying monsters in the program.
Nothing compares to the fear and monsters created by the human mind.
this was definitely one of Moffat's creepier episodes. It wasn't quite creepy enough to prevent me from falling asleep that night like Blink did (partly because I watched it on demand during the day), but definitely a good one nonetheless. Not everything has to be perfectly creepy to still have you questioning your paranoia or lack thereof.
i like when he asks it a question and it answers
Unless he wrote it himself (it IS in his handwriting after all) and forgot in the mania of his question.
Not that I believe that myself, but it's not impossible.
Funny, I just listened to Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir" and the beginning lyrics made me think of this episode:
"Oh let the sun beat down upon my face, and stars fill my dream.
I'm a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been.
To sit with elders of the gentle race, this world has seldom seen.
They talk of days for which they sit and wait, all will be revealed".
Henry in NorCal
Listen to VNV Space And Time..it will blow you away with Whovian feels as well
Funny thing about showing the lions as perfect hunters is they have a pretty bad hunt/kill ratio that barely eclipses Cheetahs. The best hunter, at least in the cat world is the Leopard.
Tikimohn In evolution, there is no such thing as "perfect".
i would more scared with a honey badger than being face to face with a lion. if the lion wanted you dead you wouldnt be standing face to face with it as long as you dont run do anything silly it wont kill you honey badgers dont give a shit if you're an elephant it will still try kill you
I believe he means this creature is perfect for hunting/ defending (plz don't take this seriously this is just me trying to make sense of the conclusion your all coming to) but all and all its a very good point
Actually I heard that best hunters/serial killers from cat's world are domestic cats. They kill the greatest number of creatures
Dragonflies are one of the best hunters actually, they catch their prey 95% percent of the time
I got chills when I first heard this speech, such a good episode oof
This episode gave me flipping nightmares because it just makes sense
those creatures could be out there
but we just wouldn't know
and we will never know...
This is one of those episodes where I go “DUDE! It all makes sense!” And I love it!
I loved these pre episode talks. So ominous.
Capaldi is the Monologue Doctor.
so that sutekh troll
So hang on when we all watched this for the first time we all had no idea what the context was behind it all until now?
This whole episode is now a screwball comedy because Sutekh is right there laughing his ass off while 12 goes insane
I'd like to believe that such a creature does exist. But it was just messing with the Doctor and did not mean him any harm. Or for him to go wildly across space and time to complete a time loop.
I love it when he does these speeches
« what would you do »
« Listen »
I wonder if the perfect camouflaged species exist and if so it would be ok to assume that they don’t see as they don’t need to because they are invisible. So maybe they are friendly and just « observe » the universe. Or in their words they would « listen »
Just a funny thought.
It's sort of like an audience in front of a screen, you know. We don't speak to the characters, we are not known to them; we listen. That's all we do. Just listen. Always listen. They never even know we are there. But in some moments, they choose, for no particular reason, to speak out loud; with no benefit whatsoever except that we can follow their thoughts.
Maybe like 'The Wills' from star wars... "Once upon a time in a galaxy far far away" maybe they listen so they can tell the stories later.
The cleverness and intensity that recent doctor who lacks completely
The real question is: Why does the doctor feel the need to make me this anxious?!?!
I’ve heard one person say it could’ve been the silence, which I believe makes the most sense. There ability to be forgotten the moment there victims look away is a perfect adaptation for hiding. Cuz think about it, how can a wildebeest run from away from a Lion , if it immediately forgets about the Lion even being there in the first place, as the Lion goes back to stalking its prey to get closer to it.
If you are speaking about a theory of what it was in the actual episode: The doctor knows how to tell himself there are Silence around by marking his arms and face. He would've done so if he saw them. And then it's mystery solved.
If you are speaking if the silence are a candidate for a creature with perfect hiding: yep, could very well fit that category in a roundabout way.
My theory is that The Silence are the second best hiders but something else is the perfect hider. I also like the theory that the audience is the best hiders but I like the idea that there is something else so good at hiding, even we'll never see it.
I be loving this episode. Ever since me and the lads saw it, We found ourselves sitting down in meditating positions in the middle o the night in a pitch black room or outside where no sound can be heard. I shut me eyes and listened. And I did hear things within me surroundings. I be swearing that I heard footsteps once when I knew no sailor were on deck. Maybe there really be something there after all. (No surprise in me book considering that me and me crew encountered the supernatural before.)
All I hear is my tinnitus fml. I didn't even get to listen to loud things lmao, it just devloped
@@xcalium9346 Well I be sorry to hear that me hearty. I be prayin it'll disappear soon.
Have any vittles gone missing aboard the ship, Captain?
@@TheWickedWizardOfOz1 No, but to be fair, what would a boogeyman want with food of provisions? They feed on fear.
Gives me chills every time lol.
This tickles right my aesthetic of horror. The feeling that something unfathomable that you cannot see is observing you.
love this; still sends chills down my spine
clara trolling the doctor lol
That's definitely space chalk. After all, it's still perfectly cylindrical after being used.
This might just be a mistake, but the left Tardis door is suddenly open when he notices his chalk is gone, when it was previously seen closed
The doctor left it open
The doors are open both in space and underwater
Literally my favorite episode.
this was a fucking great episode and one of the few i liked after matt smith left, great writing, if the Peter Capaldi era had been more of this... bloody hell. it would have been great. and there are some good episodes like this during capaldi, just not enough
I think about this almost every time I start
explaining something on screen. it is like someone is in the room listening to me explain. influencing me in doing so, to speak out loud an talk about what I'm watching
Fantasticly creative episode.
The creature is the silence you imediatly forget about them
Well yes but no. They really didnt perfect hiding at all. They get seen all the time. Yet they erase themselves from memory. Does that mean they were never found? No, so it's not truly perfect. Something that's truly perfected hiding, is something we can't even imagine exists. Seeing is acknowledging the fact of it's existence, so if you can never see then did it truly exist? Idk lol
0:10 umm , isn't there a lamp in the exact place he's sitting ?
Maybe it comes in for him to be there or maybe he’s sitting on it (probably painful) as he’s propped up from his legs more than just the slope would provide.
It's between his legs
Jack would have some comments
Hey don't judge... he's been a virgin for thousands of years, he deserves a little pleasure.
Hilling Walsh he’s not a virgin, he had a family.
Octopuses have perfect camouflage.
As much as I love this idea and the exploration of this episode, we talk aloud when we're alone because we're highly social animals and need to fill the gap. Not because we're afraid we're not.
I'd argue people talk to fill the gap because we're afraid of being alone.
Not mutually exclusive, to a self aware and highly social being, loneliness is a logical fear. Especially given how quickly we lose our sanity when we are alone.
There's a reason he's my favourite
Right, please tell me I'm not the only one who talks to herself all the time. Sometimes I imagine I'm explaining or describing or acting out something with someone else, but never just air...
This episode really freaks me out as there very well could be a creature that is right next to us but we never know because it is so good at hiding
An enemy that by design, can't be seen simply because it doesn't want to be. This concept terrifies me and excites me. It hits that thriller sweet-spot in my mind that makes me enjoy youtubers like Twin Paranormal, Jasko and PROJECT FEAR.
This works as a great short film.
I've decided to rewatch 12s run while I wait for Series 14/Season 1. Man, some of these 12th doctor episoes are such bangers. You could tell they were really trying to play with the format and create creepy mind-bending episodes like these.
stop and think about it ... he stated the premise a creature that has developed perfect camouflage ... then he poses the question What would one do with that trait ... listening is an excellent answer ... ones actions and words when matched show who or what they are about and if they can or can not be trusted ... you LEARN more from listening than you do from acting ...
what really made it very funny is that if you watch doctor who a couple of times you will see theres always a light on the top of the tardis and now hes sitting on the top of the tardis xD
THIS IS MY PERSONAL FAVORITE WITH CAPALDI!! "LISTEN" IS A NEW WHO CLASSIC!!, the dj
The doctor just called me out with that "talking out loud" stuff
Sort of sad that when he talks about perfect defense it doesn’t cut to a weeping Angel as the doctor himself said their quantum lock is the greatest defense “because you can’t kill a stone”
The best ever Doctor's theory.
Kind of wish there was a follow-up episode on this not too many episodes. I wouldn't want the creature to become like the weeping angels and the silence.
Too much of them and they just don't seem that scary anymore. But the idea that someone is following the doctor a companion that's been with him since the beginning. That would be legit.
I like to imagine this implies the viewers of Dr Who are in a way canon. The only thing a viewer can do is watch and listen, but no one else on the world can interact with them in any way, nor could their existence ever be proven.
It's weird that it took the doctor this long to have an extra Central crisis over it. When he's directly talked to us In his first and fourth incarnation and probably a couple other times
But this also contradicts the other times Where we exist in ken and like when the thirteenth the doctor trapped us in a time loop
And the chris we master used us as a human sheild but then murdered us
I have an interesting question to pose, in addition to 12th's one about the idea of a creature with Perfect Hiding. Given it'd fall in line with Perfect Hunting, Perfect Defense, AND Perfect Hiding.. What about a lifeform with Perfect Detection?
Peter had the best speeches
As he is hiding in plain sight. He is referencing his self.
My opinion(partially)
Attack =I don't know
Defence =weeping angels
Hiding= Silence
Vashta Nerada are a pretty good candidate for perfect hunters.
@@leowulf5280 perfect hiding and predator i agree i can't imagine face that i will be so scared
This speech gave me nothing but a massive existential crisis when i listened. Because truly if this was the case. You couldn't know. Scariest intro
Probably one of the creepiest intros of Dr Who!
Chills every time
This episode got in my head man
I think for perfect defense they should have shown a weeping angel. I imagine they were trying to be "down to earth" so to speak, but it's Doctor Who, we know there are much more defended things in their universe than a puffer fish.
He's talking about the audience
Spoilers
There is in this episode a creature which is perfect in hiding. We see it on Danny's/Rupert's bed
Or maybe it was one of the other kids for whatever reason.
The ambiguity is the point, second only to the idea that maybe we're better off not knowing for sure.
Doesn’t this idea fit very well with the concepts of imaginary friends. Things that nobody sees and yet we’re certain that something is there and we talk to them.
Wow I am so loyal to the previous Doctor Who from the 70s that I have skipped over this era but now I think I will give it a try starting with Capaldi
Can you give us an update on if you watched it? I love old Doctor Who as well and Peter Capaldi's Doctor as well as Series 9 is in my opinion the perfect mesh of the old and new series in a lot of places.
I like when The Doctor gives Us. A spooky Goosebumps listen. In Doctor Who Series 8 😀👍
God I remember watching this as a kid and shouting have you heard of chameleons or stripes!?!
ever think that the monster is the cameraman?
I like this episode but I am sort of annoyed by the implication that nothing is actually there- If they had a bit less evidence, then sure, but there's so much stuff that happens that it strains plausibility for that to be the case and makes the characters seem a bit dumb. Fortunately it's left ambiguous so you can just choose to believe either (I think there is something there) but I think the way it is the implication contradicts the evidence a bit.
I feel like they missed a big opportunity to make a scary monster from this instead of just saying that you're paranoid. like the living shadows but scarier.
This speech still haunts me. Even though the payoff of the episode was really disappointing.
I’m gonna do a school presentation and include this speech
Dude, how did the presentation go?
@@tambettammisto7423 Legend has it that he's still presenting to this day