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Forget Basic FENDER and GIBSON Tones! - Try Something DIFFERENT Instead!
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2021
- On the hunt for some new tones? Today I compare some awesome pups that sometimes fly under the radar!
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Hey all! Let me know which pups you liked the most in each comparison!
Enjoy :)
Those Dan electro pups were good. Why aren’t those nearly as popular as humbuckers?
was wondering if you would consider please reviewing the new fender noventa serise.. especially the strat.. thx.
Crunch- P90. They just handle that overdrive sounds so well.
Clean- Filter’tron. They have an amazing clean tone.
Distortion- Mini Humbucker. They killed it for me in this category. So much oomf.
Idea for a similar vid: Jazzmaster pickups, Firebird pickups, JM P90 from Lollar or Novak and the JM 180 from Novak. Or anything else with the Jazzmaster and Firebird pickups they’re just so unique and I think a lot of people don’t know that.
Clean- Filter’tron! I don't care for or play much crunch or distortion.
If I could only have one pickup it would be Filtertrons.
My ears kept coming back to the Filtertron pickups as the sound that best fits what I like.
😊I picked a gretsch because of that
Get yourself a nice gretsch. Even the lower end models are actually quite nice
If you want filtertron sound stay away from broadtrons. You can always replace them with tv jones pickups. Tv jones has loads of info about pickup swapping and mounting.
@@gavinw5469 broad'tron pickups are very similar. In fact, you could hardly hear the difference and to be honest, I preferred broadtron pickups for some reason. More clarity with that chimey Gretsch sound. P90/single coil and humbucker all in one. Broad'tron pickups are amazing 🤘🏼
True. I was just sayimg if he specfically wanted filtertron sounds though. If he loves broadtrons than there is nothing wrong with that.
Really cool demo. Thanks for making this!
David smash!
Heyyyyyyy
Djent isn't music.
I can see it now, video titled : 'When Someone Requests Darrell Braun'. LOL!
The last good guitar tubers really . Dovy, Phillip McKnight , And DB .
Those filtertrons sounded awesome in that guitar.
Guys to the wives: "honey i swear they are all different i need all of them to have a sonically wide range"
LOL. I've said that exact thing...!
@@williamstanford7994 haha, please give me 🖐️, we all say the same thing to the wife.
Nope. I can honesty say I’ve never done that. I have a Kiesel guitar that has split coils. I only need that one. 😬
@@Burnt_Gerbil Shhh....
@Dave Stevens damn thats a nice collection man. Theyre all tonally different too. Get a gretsch next. Or a schecter/ibanez. Danelectro or dangelico also hot
I was really impressed by the P-90’s 👍
The neck lipstick on a Danelectro I owned is still the best clean neck sound I've ever heard in a guitar since I starded playing in 1995.
I never heard a Filtertron demo before, but I was impressed with how full they sounded. They sounded the best to me. Thanks for the comparison.
Yeah, the futons are the original hum bucking pick ups. They just didn’t apply for the pattern but Gibson couldn’t sue them.
Bought my first P90 guitar in 1972 (used 62 SG) and loved it. It was my first real guitar but I did not know what I had until playing in bands w/other members playing humbuckers. Amps and guitars in those days could really produce 60 hz hum...so I was envious of quiet humbuckers, but the P90s killed it on tone! The P90s could also squelch the hum by using middle position. (provided both volume knobs were at the same setting). P90s have earned my respect for decades!
I only started playing like 3.5 yrs ago. I always made sure I'd get a humbucker, since I wanted to learn metal riffs to get started. I'm hooked on the P90 sound. So much diversity. I still love humbuckers more than life itself, but if I'm looking to be creative, I prefer the P90s.
Fender Tele Deluxe (HH)
Fender American Performer (HSS)
Epiphone ES-339 (generic alnico humbuckers)
Gibson ES-339 ('57 humbuckers)
Fender 'Noventa' Strat (2 P90's)
@@BaconatorJames Over the decades, I have switched fovorites so many times. But always after playing humbuckers for any length of time, the p90 seems so powerful and gutsy, and nothing spanky like a strat. Just a great sound to have on hand when I want it. Love the idea of 339s! I have a 335 and they are just too large for me. Still shopping 339s!!! I will find one eventually!
I gotta go with the Filtertrons for their clarity and jangle overall but that mini humbucker is very close especially with distortion!
Love me some P90s
P90s forever.
It's 2am here in the UK but Darrell just uploaded a video about four different pickup styles. I guess I'm STILL not going to bed
I love weird partscasters with obscure pick-ups. You can get a lot of different tones but maintain the ergonomics and reliability of a strat
/tele
Totally agree with that : it's an interesting path to follow. Joe Gore on you tube is a reference on that subject !
@Gabriel Mungaray And a strat with a lapsteel humbucker in the bridge is a Coodercaster. Pretty neat that people have been modifying these instruments for so long that some of the mods have become a recognizable instrument of their own.
The grind from P90;s turns my crank
P90s are killer!
Yep p90 n1
Tron n2
Minihum n3
Lipstick n4 (on n1 when on a nice lady)
@@netcatfulful lol it's good
Wank'n'crank?
Holy Crap! Those Filter'Trons sound incredible clean!
Thats why Id choose them
The SD SM-1 in the D'Angelico is actually a Firebird pickup. Those are different than mini-humbuckers. They're the same size but they're constructed differently. They both sound and feel different. I just wanted to point that out because if one of your viewers liked the sound of the D'Angelico and decided they wanted to look for a mini-humbucker, they would be looking for the wrong type of pickup.
Well, it's actually a Seymour Duncan SM-1b Mini-Humbucker - that's what Duncan themselves call them and claims it has a "Firebird tone". Yes, it's confusing :)
Being able to see these more interesting pickups with more interesting tones is always something to take a listen to. Great work!
Thanks RC!
@@DarrellBraunGuitar Cheers!
The Filtertrons surprised me with how good they sounded ... !
Try listening to some other tron variants.
From Leo: This is something Gretsch fans have known for years.
@@gavinw5469 That’s one of the reasons I love AC/DC too.
eww
I am a huge fan of the P90's. That being said that Orange Creamsicle Tele of yours always seems to get my attention whether I see it hanging over your shoulder or featured in a video like this. Darrell, your content is always refreshing. My final thought, can't decide a favorite.
Dig the filtertrons, but P90's are badass too!
I agree with you LakesideWelding.Jerry........I felt the same way love P90s but the Filtertrons so clear highs
@@gregtreble9086 im building a couple of guitars now. I want to put filtertrons in one, and a P90 in the neck position in the other!
Now I need a filterton guitar! GAS! :D
As an owner of a tele cabronita with filtertrons, I concur. They're insanely versatile pickups.
Harley Benton TE-90FLT go go go
For so long I lived in a world where I thought single coil, lipstick, and humbucker were the only 3 pickups 😮
This video is great
I’ve been try to avoid common tones like that for a while! This really helped!
The video was just uploaded less than a minute ago. How did it “help?” 🙄
@@ZaneDalton the thumbnail for the video showcased the pickups to use...
This is just a great video. I just adore P90s so much. But I had no idea I would like filtertrons that much.
I’ve actually been hoping for a video like this from you!
Glad to help!
The filtertrons stood out as favorites in the crunch section. There was a fullness and clarity. Thank you for the comparison.
Those FilterTrons are freaking amazing, clean and crunch. I'd take the mini humbuckers if I were playing any significant amount of metal, and a Firebird (the ICONIC mini 'bucker axe!) is on my wishlist, to be fair, but a chambered Gretsch is currently higher on that list, and this video demonstrates why.
They are all great unique tones. Ultimately we all need a Relish with all our favourite pickups in modules to cover everything.
I Love P90's to begin with and the Filtertron has me re-thinking the Humbucker all together.
I agree 100%
Going to listen to this video again, this time with some nice headphones. Great work, Darrell!
My favorites for Crunch: P90, Filtertron. For Clean: P90, Filtertron, Mini-Humbucker. Distortion: They all sounded good. Thanks
P90's for crunch, Lipstick for the cleans, and Filtertron for distortion....that sounded best for me. However after playing for 45 years I only recently got a p90 loaded guitar and I just love it, it's so versatile.
P90s and Mini Humbuckers for me... Great content man, kudos
I swear this is the year of the P90. So many videos on them lately.
I think its always been the year of the p90.
I like the sound of the p90
Best ever from Iommi to Duane Eddy to Leslie West..versitile
They all sound great. P90 is my favorite for everything but clean, where I prefer the lipstick or mini. The mini is my 2nd favorite overall, but not number 1 in any category. Thanks for the demo. Remember people, your amp does most of the work for the tone, and Darrell has great amps.
I got me a Gretsch G2655TG-P90 it has both of those pick ups. Filtertron and P90!!!! Awesome sounding! Filtertron at the bridge and P90 at neck.
Thanks for adding the mini-humbucker information to the mix. I love how the mini-humbuckers drove the amp, especially during distortion. They were SO CLOSE to sounding as good as the T.V. Jones'. But, I have to give the nod to the TV Jones' FilterTrons! This might just be sound-infatuation, but, I think true FilterTrons (and is that a loaded statement or what?) 'take the cake', so to speak, for overall performance -- power, balance, tone-separation, clarity, and tonal quality -- in this sort-of "other' category of pickups you reviewed. Nice work Darrell!
If the coils are potted, the main difference that a wide coil over a narrow one is that the wider one takes more wire to form each loop, so in total there is more resistance per unit of inductance. Of course this can not be easily circumvented but using stronger magnets (for example magnet rods instead of magnet base+screws), lower gauge wire (thicker=lower resistance) and somewhat less winds can bring a p90 very close to a Strat-style single coil.
One of my absolute favorite guitars is a Michael Kelly thinline tele style with P90s. It sounds absolutely amazing!
Well personally I've always loved the sounds of a Mini hum bucker, although p90s to my ear sounds close, but I'd like to have at least 1 guitar with each of the four version
Always been a big fan of mini humbuckers. I have a set on a 70s LP Deluxe.
I love p90's and then the Flitertron. Didn't really care for the Lipstick.
Lipsticks really shine in clean rhythm palying
Just added 920D polyphonic mini humbuckrtd (3). Strat loaded pickgaurd 7 way switch, coil spilt. From what I read but can't confirm, puts Seymour antiquity Texas mini hums. Always wanted 3 minis since my 67 Gibson Firebird 12. Been craving that sound since she was stolen 62. So had squire strat had nodded, big brass trem block, roller bridge, , fret were fixed level, crowned, polished, had tusq nut custom cut fitted. Roller tee's, locking tuners. But was still scrappy tones. So belive thus to be my dream .mod work parts cost more than guitar. Crazy?
Got tone Barry Fish Melron, electric music for mind body LP tine. Had to change from Voz AC 30, to Ehx mig 50, sane head as my 60s super bass man silver face that had 69 rig bridge 2 channels, bass and normal there's those tones bro, way better than pedals we old sixties garage band as we got labeled. We didn't use pedals it was guitar amp.....
Tried pedals during the planeed lock down fear project, fine for you younger cats, but they don't move for live, but home practice low volume
Didn’t know mini humbuckers will turn out to be so bright and clear. For me, it’s the mini humbuckers that impressed me a lot
I've got an old Les Paul Deluxe with them, they're a very particular sound. I find them closer to fender style single coils than the PAFs or P90s like you usually find on a Gibby but with their own percilular bite. Gary Moore used them extensively with Thin Lizzy.
That's not a mini-humbucker. The SM-1B is a Firebird pickup.
@@JELIFISH19 A Firebird pickup IS a mini-humbucker. Gibson made 2 distinct mini-humbuckers--ones with pole pieces and ones without. They were two different designs but both were mini-humbuckers.
@@meatwad1 They're completely different designs. A mini-humbucker shares the same design as a normal-sized humbucker, it's just smaller. A Firebird pickup uses a completely different construction which yields a different sound. It has nothing to do with visible polepieces. The SM-2 and SM-3 aren't Firebird pickups even though they look identical to the SM-1. And some of the pickups that Gibson has put into Firebirds have been mini-humbuckers with covered polepieces.
The OP commented on the brightness and clarity of that pickup. But much of that is attributed to it being a Firebird pickup.
@@meatwad1 Minihums are made like humbuckers, just mini. Firebird pickups are 2 rails, each in a bobbin, wrapped in wire. Same foot print, vastly different design and sound.
I liked the Filtertrons! Might be a consideration for a project guitar I have.
That mini hum was pretty chunky, I really dig that sound. Good power metal sound.
P90 on clean, 'Trons with crunch and distortion. Both sounded lovely though. Thanks a lot Darrel! This gave me some clarity. \m/
P 90s also typically have 2 bar magnets, compared to a normal hum bucket which has one. Filtertrons also have much stronger magnets and lower wound coils
I liked the Filtertron's over all but if I could select just one it would be the Lipstick's. As always, great comparison with excellent and understandable commentary. Thanks Darrell.
Faulty methodology - the lipstick pickups were on a Masonite body, while the others were on semi-hollow guitars. Despite what a couple of RUclipsrs have tried to demonstrate to the contrary, there have to be tonal differences between chipboard and wood. An example that most homeowners should be familiar with is that Masonite slab doors don't pass sound as readily as plywood doors.
1. Filtertron
2. Mini humbuckers
(I know why I love Gretsch)
The distorted lipsticks really surprised me. Never heard that much distortion with those. Sounded cool.
Each had their unique tone and wouldn't mind one of each for the range I like to play. Would also add the Rickebacker with toaster pickups to the mix as a comparison as well. Ricky's have their unique sound.
The mini-humbucker appears to be more of a firebird mini than the Epiphone design. As well as the absence of adjustable pole pieces, the firebird mini-humbucker has a different magnet configuration.
Yup. That's a Seymour Duncan SM-1 in that guitar which is a Firebird pickup. The SM-2 and SM-3 look identical but aren't Firebird pickups though.
My favorite for
Crunch: P90
Clean: Lipstick
Distortion: Filtertron
I got a Gretch for my George Harrison lovin' daughter... I was so blown away by the sound and tone of their pickups I became a Gretch fan myself.
Multiple plans for my future Gretch driven guitars.
If you never checked them out - you're missing out.
Love P90 pickups! But those Filtertrons sounded awesome when you rang out that power chord on the Distortion channel!! That high mid sizzle just rips!! Sounded good on cleans too... a little more breakup but still jangly. Might need to add them somewhere in the collection...
These demos are more pleasant than those that you usually play. Keep it like that!
I have a P90 guitar, so now to get a 'Tron & Lipstick. Lipstick Distortion floated my boat, P90s for the clean & the 'Tron for the rest!
You give the best back to back comparisons. For me, I liked the mini HB
Great rundown Darrell. Fwiw i highly recommend Kent Armstrong noiseless P90s!
I recently put p-rails in my guitar so a combination of p90, single, parallel humbucker, serial humbucker. It gets me most of what i could want in 1 guitar.
I really like those P-Rails and have been thinking of making a partscaster with just a single in the bridge. Are you happy with it?
@@morganbebell9003 yes it I have 2, not sure how it would go in the middle
I agree.....I have Prails in a EKO semi Acoustic and so versatile in tones so so many cool sounding tones possible ....
@@gregtreble9086 I put 2 in a Hum Single Hum guitar that already has acoustic piezo saddles and Roland synth output so even if I run out of sounds, I can virtually model a whole bunch of guitars and pickups.
I am not first, as I prefer to take my time thinking of something clever to say. I will get back to you later...
probably less trolls this way!
I was pretty bummed when the Schecter cats eye was out of stock, too bad I loved the tones on that.
Lipstick and filtertron had a great jangle to them imo
I put a Firebird humbucker in my Les Paul Deluxe. Slightly lower output, but more top end. Breaks up nicely, and has more of the tele on steroid vibe than a p90 very happy with it.
Good work DB. I gotta say, why don’t I own a guitar with Filtertron pickups??????? IMO, they sounded the best overall.
Great demo. Thank you.
P90s starts with the Dennis Kayser chord!
Like them all for different reasons, but if I had to pick just one, I’d probably go with the mini-humbucker followed closely by the Filter’trons.
One more video that shows me how little I know about guitars...thanks so much, Darrell. I loved the P90s in all three settings, the Filtertron was great in Crunch and Distortion.
The lipstick pickups are a bit too "weak" for my taste, if you can express it like that. Not really sure about the mini humbucker so far...
Props to Danelectro. Great comparison video.
They sounded surprisingly good with gain! Pretty impressed
They make them for other guitars, too. Just picked one up for my Tele from GuitarFetish.
I don't know if it's me or the youtube compression, but the lipstick pickups on the clean sound kind of had a "light and airy" quality, sounds like they would be great for playing some tangerine dream or something like that. Overall I think I preferred the filtertrons when all the sounds are averaged out.
I like the articulation of the lipstick pickups. maybe combined with a mini hum buckers bright open power!
Oh man! I’ve been such a P-90 freak! But those
Filtertrons really kick ass, baby!! I love them! 😍🎸
Mini humbucker was great. Really warm and sounds great in the mix
I used to own a 1978 Gibson deluxe LP with mini HB’s. Bought it new and regrettably had to sale it. Best sounding guitar I’ve ever had!
I threw a set of FIltertron clones in my Epiphone Lucille and love the sound! The Varitone is actually useful now.
I really really like a set of pickups from a Brazilian engineer, Sergio Rosar. Awesome stuff!
Good demo. Fairly comprehensive without being too long. I would have like to hear the mini-hums in the neck position. My fave was the filtertron.
I'll be coming back to this video whenever I'll be planning my next project.
Thank you!
Me too!
Thanks for the comparison, Darrell. I have a new-found respect for P-90s.
I do like that Fender tele with filtertrons! Thanks for the video comparison!
I loved the p90 clean and the mınıhumber for the other two.
They all sound great 👍. The filtertron seems so clean without the low mids. Very usable imo. Thanks
I gotta agree with many other comments - really liked the lipstick pickups on the clean tone.
I always thought Firebirds had mini humbuckers, but Rhett Shull posted a video earlier this month saying the pups are not mini humbuckers, but rather a single rail design wrapped with somewhat less copper wire, ergo low-output but with a unique voice unlike any other pickup (developed by Epiphone before Gibson bought them out). It would be interesting to compare the Firebird pups against a Les Paul with mini humbuckers.
That pickup in the D'Angelico he refers to as a mini-humbucker is actually a Firebird pickkup.
@@JELIFISH19 OK, now I am really confused. It would be instructive to see the bare pickups (no cover) and get a real close-up view with a narrative of how each type is made. Another rabbit hole to run down...
The Epiphone mini bucker Gibson inherited when they bought out Epiphone is basically a mini PAF design, a magnet underneath with 2 coils with screws in 1 and steel studs in the other coil. Basically the same as a full size PAF construction, but smaller. The Firebird pickup, invented by Gibson, NOT Epiphone, uses TWO vertical bar magnets in small bobbins with the coils rapped around each. No magnet underneath like a PAF design. "TWO" vertical magnets, Not a single rail. They sound Very different. They're both about the same size which is why many people refer to both as mini buckers, but Gibson NEVER referred to Fire Bird pickups as mini buckers. The Gretsch Filtertron is also a smaller sized hum bucker, yet hardly anyone refers to it as a mini bucker. Strange world, huh? Anyway, if you google "pickup construction" for each of these pickups and click on images you'll see how each is made and hopefully clear up the confusion. Happy picking!
New subscriber here... After recently watching a few of your rebuild videos, I have decided to upgrade a couple of my old guitars. You made it look simple enough that I am confident that the builds will go great. Thanks for the inspiration!
A comparison of neck pickups would be great too. I tend to use "crunch" or distorted sound more in the neck pickup than the bridge.
The trons’s clean tone is amazing!
Explains why I use my Gretsch with filtertrons the most - It can take massive distortion and amazing clean tones and all in between. Responds most consistent to pedal board changes so switching tones during a song is the most seamless imho.
tron sounds really good to me...thanks for this helpful video!
Guess now I really like GF-Trons and Lipsticks. That DanElectro is beautiful color scheme, reminds me of a Duncan yoyo I had as a kid. Good videos, keep them coming.
For the record, I own a Squire Telecaster Custom II with Duncan Designed P-90s, a Danelectro DC59-12 with lipsticks, a Gretsch Electromatic Pro Jet that I replaced the pickups with "real" Filtertrons, and a 2018 Gibson SG Special with the Firebird (I insist!!) humbuckers, as demo'd here. Each of those guitars has a unique sound of its own that makes them worth owning, "when I'm in the mood". Also, it's possible to "stumble" on "just the right sound" with some of these, when you don't know what an original artist was using. I've been playing some 50th Class Reunions, and while I always have 2 guitars "just in case", I'm tempted to bring 3 or more to better mimic some of those old records.
I am awaiting an Epiphone Riviera Royal Tan, with the mini-humbuckers (with pole-piece adjusting screws!), and like the 70s Les Paul Deluxe models with same pickups, has yet another "alternative" tone to the standard Gibson and Fender tones. Except for the apparent disagreement of what *is* a mini-humbucker, I love this and all your other comparisons, too! I love all these different sounds, but if I had to pick just one, I'd probably go with the Filtertron pickups, just because they have "That Great Gretsch Sound". The Firebird humbuckers come in a close second, and sound great on my SG.
I LOVE the P90 sound, i have a Gibson SG Special and is a joy to play, really versatile pickup, for aggresive rock with distortion to something more mellow and jazzy clean.
I'm surprised howmuch i like the lipstick on distortion. It's definitely the jangle in it, kinda spices it up
Need a part 2 with Ric pickups, the Jazzmaster and the XII (but in 6 string application).
Love the sound of the P90s and FilterTrons a lot. My Epiphone has P90s and I'm waiting for my Gretsch to come in.
My first love is Gretch. The DeArmond pickups are growing on me but classic Filtertrons in a Japanese Duo-Jet is my bucket list guitar.
However all of these pickups serve a function. I'd own a Les Paul Deluxe with the mini humbuckers, another with P90s, a DC3 Danelctro, and a Gretch Black Penguin if I could swing it.
I have put a mini in neck position of one of my tele and it matches so well with the hot single coil in bridge position ! But after watching this video, I'd like to try with a filtetron !
Lovely Video Darrell. The Filtertron stands out even with the YT compression on the sounds!
Filtertrons, by far.
Cuts way better in the mix.
I don't like scooped mid..
I put P90 as 2nd.
Can't go wrong with SG in Drop-D with P90.
And the mini-humbucker as 3rd.
It had its own character soundwise. But it was also quite scooped with hi-gain.