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- What is inside a Lipstick Pickup? In fact, what's the deal with such an unusual name?
While visiting Thomann for TGU19 I got the chance to pickup a Danelectro guitar and with the help of Ryan from 60 Cycle Hum we were able to discover what lies beneath those shiny covers...
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What is inside a Lipstick Pickup? In fact, what's the deal with such an unusual name?
While visiting Thomann for TGU19 I got the chance to pickup a Danelectro guitar and with the help of Ryan from 60 Cycle Hum we were able to discover what lies beneath those shiny covers...
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What about the lipstick humbuckers?
Lipstick humbuckers are just two of these wired together as a humbucker.
CSGuitars Fantastic Video Colin, I encourage you to look into the mysterious Beast that is the Lipstick Humbucker in your own time. They’re something else entirely to any other pickups I’ve ever used
@MrNick2D Top or BOTTOM? ;oP
@ScottME50 NOT really a 'fad'!
My girlfriend has the same kind of pickup. She keeps it in her drawers tho Idk why
ARE you sure you're STRAIGHT, if you don't know what it is?
@@DMSProduktions congratulations, that's the joke.
@@tylerreed610 Ah! But you CAN'T blame me, you know many clueless snow flakes are allowed to use the internet?
@@DMSProduktions I mean the last guy got the joke
@@tylerreed610 Oh, I got a DIFFERENT joke. Sorry!
I actually keep lipstick in my lipstick pickups, you never know when you need to reapply on stage with your NY Dolls cover band.
reaplying lipstick while tongue solo no downtime
this made me laugh.
@@yardbirds89 He WASN'T joking!
Just DON'T call your lover boy Trash!
REPLACING MY FRIENDS LIPSTICK PICKUPS WITH ACTUAL LIPSTICK (NOT CLICKBAIT!!)
WILD PETE THORN APPEARED!
I noticed him in the background and was hoping he'd be acknowledged somehow. I was not disappointed.
12:13 And Pixxy Lixx (
Steve from Boston)
His face went from happy to sad real quick at 8:09
Too afraid to ask: why do metal guitarists have a habit of scooping the mids?
Makes a heavily distorted sound less harsh by reducing harmonics the distortion would otherwise make a screaming noise with no definition. Also reduces the frequency build-up in the mids without which the guitar would be the only thing you’d hear.
Part of the reason: it leaves sonic room for the vocals or for lead guitar. Kerry King does the opposite (frowny face on a graphic eq). So it depends on the band dynamics as well as a stylistic thing.
@@tlw4237 yeah it makes a bit less feedback and it also makes lower frequencies more prominent for the "chug" parts of songs
@@benakanecrophile2878 But if overdone it stops the guitar sounding like a guitar any more. Or it makes all kinds of guitar sound very much the same, the biggest difference between an overdriving Tele and SG/Les Paul is mostly in the mids. Which is fine if that’s the effect you want.
FOOKING SLAYERR🤘
I have a Danelectro 56 tuned to C standard and I use it for sludge metal. Lipstick pickups sound great with high gain amps and/or fuzz.
I was wondering, I know Oliver Ackernan uses them in his Frankencasters. Only because he found a load cheap on ebay. He does gnarly guitar, I was wondering if the hsngke gets rough enough.
I love how happy Ryan gets when he can talk about underrated gear. And what a fun surprise to see him pop up in one of your videos :) I would love it if you guys teamed up more often!
Dude's got an infectious laugh! I love being around people like that once in a while.
A neat fact is that lipstick pickups are quite similar to Burns Tri-Sonics, like the ones Brian May used in his Red Special. They're constructed more or less identical, only the Burns pickups are obviously in a different type of enclosure. You can also buy Strat pickup sized Tri-Sonics from Burns nowadays if you're interested in comparing the two.
Also they use different gauges of wire, being 44awg for the burns and 42 for the lipstick pickups.
The nonchalance of Pete Thorn sneaking up from behind lmao. What a cool bunch and what a cool event. It's like VidCon, only good.
I'm of the opinion that lipsticks are some of the sweetest sounding neck pickups in existence.
Well I'm disappointed there's no actual lipstick on those pickups.
CHECK your dog!
@@UmVtCg The dog would LOVE that!
There's wax, close enough
There’s wax in it though, you could still wax your lips with it.
DMSProduktions why are you stupid
I always wondered what was up with these, nice short explanation. Ryan's laugh is contagious. That guy laughs, everyone in the room does too without even knowing why. You can tell that guy loves what he does. Also, Pete showed up and didn't do anything but show up. Awesome video as always, Colin.
But how do these sound through Peavey 6505s, Mesa Boogie Duals, and any version of the 5150?
The REAL question!
I'll save you the trouble. Bad.
i dont know about those amps but i play everything from super oldschool rock and roll to modern djent metal with a danelectro 56 baritone and the lipstick pickups have givin some of the best tones for all the stuff i play. for anyone in doubt, heres a vid to prove they sound great for heavier stuff,
ruclips.net/video/kyHdXCYaumk/видео.html
i seriously love these guitars. the guy in the vid says the 56 bari is good for low G or even F tuning, but i personally love it in drop A
Or better yet, can you dial in a 'SLAYERRRRR!' sound with a Metal Zone (or 7)?
@@TriodesPs111 The baritone part is important. What most people don't understand is that when adding lots of distortion the low-end needs to be mitigated somehow in order to keep your tone from becoming muddy. A bright, low output pickup in a guitar like this is one way to handle it. Some people boost the treble, but this works too. I've played danelectros and baritone Jazzmasters that both bear this out. It's not conventional or "better" but it works.
I very recently came across your channel and enjoy it very much. The gear reviews are great ... but lots of channels do that. I enjoy it because you have a much better than average grasp on the actual technology. Presentation style is great too ... the tech is presented in a way that doesn't seem boring and fundamental to a tech person (like me, I'm an engineer) but at the same time is not too complex for non-techies to grasp. Last, you deliver the information in a way that clearly indicates that you know exactly what your talking about. So, you either have formal engineering training or worked as a guitar tech ... either way ... love the channel, keep up the good work.
Walk Don't Run was the first song I ever learned on the Guitar :)
12:15 pixie licks was stalking you :O
Walk Dont Run is still an awesome song! Those great classic will always sound great and live forever!
this video seems to be the superior source on the topic in all the internet. Thanks soo much
That bit where him and Ryan are laughing as the camera cuts to them at 4:43 is so staged lmao
dude check out their laugh starting at 8:09 and then watch Collin's face at 8:11! LMAO!
I've been playing 20 years and literally learn something new on every single TATA / any time Colin speaks!!! What a legend x
Sounds like Spaghetti Western soundtrack to me. Also, Pulp Fiction. You know, Tito & Tarantula. With a hint of Ren & Stimpy.
Love it.
Reverb did a really cool video on the sound of Spaghetti Western sounds and did compare it with surf music. The biggest difference was the rhythm of the music - spaghetti westerns had a more gallopy pace (ala Maiden's The Trooper) whereas surf's was more one-TWO-AND-three-FOUR.
Found the video - ruclips.net/video/98T648KLfHQ/видео.html
Well DUHH! What guitars did you think they used to record the sound tracks?
Steen-kee!
@@kellyjackson7889 Pu!
Excellent video, Colin, very informative. Ryan's presence and Pete saying hello, very cool! Ta!
Another fun fact about Dano's: the bodies were made from formica sourced from a countertop factory in the neighborhood and bound with vinyl tape. Everyone should own one, just in case.
I really want one, but it's hard to justify the price when you know it's plywood and very cheaply made pickups.
I think a useful one would be to explain the difference between p90s and jazzmaster pickups.
"Wild Pete Thorn" part made me LOL 🤣
SRV had three lipsticks in his white 'Charley' strat. He still got his sound without it being surf or glassy. Shows the range of these pickups. I like them.
I use a danelectro. I enjoy playing rock. You should test these pickups beyond their normal genres, or you won’t really know what they’re capable of.
Jimmy Page used a Danelectro on Kashmir!
When using zero effects or pedals nothing beats the tone of a single lipstick pickup plugged directly into the Fender or Marshall amp. They kinda create their own reverb. I've got an all original 1960 dolphin nose Silvertone U-1 and it's the best sounding guitar I've ever heard when using zero effects. Direct is the way to go with these beauties.
I love these TATA segments. I have learned a great deal that I did not know. Cheers from Austin Tx and keep up the good work! Drink some Ardbeg for me. :D
Definitely putting these on my telecaster.
Honestly that guitar sounds beautiful, I love how thin it sounds
Ryan’s laugh is like a supervillain - I love it
Love the video. Especially when at 10:00 I noticed a Pete thorn casually strolling through
08:08 “HELLO DARKNESS MY OLD FRIEND...” 🎶😢😆
dude check out Collin's face at 8:11 just right after the laugh! LMAO!
Its weird to think , the DC59 nos+ is a newer run ( a couple of years old ) but the pickups are already 20 years old ( hence the NOS), They are from a lost order of pickups from '99 ...
and i love that the middle position puts the pickups in series instead of parallel.
Hahaha that was totally awesome when Pete Thorn just kinda photobombed you guys, poked his face in there and didn't even say anything, just smiled. LOL.
Holy giant wave, these guitars sound amazing!
I love the good guys like you in the guitar community
Danelectros are made from Masonite a press board made from boiled wood composite not plastic. They also have a wood frame inside and are hollow not filled with foam, Some Supro and National guitars were made with fiberglass. Nice lick on the Dano Colin,
Wow that was awesome! Now I Have to get these pickups! Thanks
Thanks for driving into this genre Colin. Fun video!!
8:09
When your senior tells a joke
Wow seeing both of you guys together is awesome. I’m a big fan of you both and did not expect that. It’s so awesome to see you all there, thanks for the content!
I love seeing two RUclipsr working together !
Awesome collab and a pleasant surprise to see Ryan here! :D
Ryan makes everything better.
@@ScienceofLoud Literally everything.
I’ve got a couple guitars with lipsticks contrasted against other pickups.
Lipstick crossed with P90 is a fascinating combination
The science of loud! Perfect!! 🤓🤘
The original Gibson Melody Maker single-coil pickups (that look like Fender Mustang pickups from the outside), are very similar to the insides of a Lipstick. Certainly more turns on the coil and plastic, rather than metal, cover (hence a different tone) but they also use a coil wound directly around an alnico bar magnet. The same is true of the two coils in a Firebird pickup. Where many "dual-rail" type humbuckers, have a ferromagnetic blade in the centre of each coil, magnetically coupled by a bar magnet between them, the Firebird pickup is two discrete single-coils, each similar to the Lipstick and Melody-Maker pickups. It would not surprise me if the MM pickups simply used individual coils prepared for the Firebird, but I will leave confirmation of that to the historians and pickup savants. Note that the Gibson mini-humbucker is not JUST cosmetically distinct from the Firebird pickups, but employs the same sort of dual-ferromagnetic "poles", coupled by a central bar magnet that the full-sized humbuckers use.
Finally, Danelectro guitars historically used a *wooden* core, and not plastic, as Colin suggested in passing. Remember that these were first and foremost BUDGET guitars. The use of "garbage" wood (poplar - rarely, if ever, used for instruments) for the unseen core, and masonite/pressboard for the tops and backs, made materials costs low, required little selection of wood for things like grain or machinability, and fabrication was simple and cheap. Moulding a plastic core in the 1950s would have put these guitars out of the economic reach of most players. The plastic tape that surrounds the sides around the entire body might *suggest* the middle is plastic, but it IS wood, just in case there was any misunderstanding.
The Wild Pete Thorn cracked me up!
Thank you so much! I've always wondered what was in one of those, but never had a guitar with one. I think I'll put a lipstick pickup in the neck of my next Strat!
Interesting. Never seen such a thing. That Danelectro guitar looks awesome.
I wonder how they sound out of phase, ear splitting bright?
Only dogs can hear them out of phase
I put a phase switch on my danelectro and I love it. Gives you a cocked wah sound.
@@kylewarfel9270 Cockybomb!
nice!
@@WibblyWobblyBob sometimes i just love the youtube comment section :'D
While Fender became the iconic guitar for Surf, Danelectros & Silvertones were where most players started.
Even Jimi Hendrix got his start on a Danelectro and players like Link Wray can be seen and heard playing them on early albums.
Superb descriptions and communications Colin!
i love the sound of lipstick pickups.
The lipstick pickups and the danelectro 12 string are a perfect match. Now I know why.
Two great lads in one video. Cheers!
I have a Danelectro 59 XT that I love. It is a great guitar, a lot of fun to play and to listen to. It actually has a P90 in the neck, and a lipstick humbucker in the bridge, with coil split. So they do make lipstick humbuckers as well.
Great episode. Always wondered about these pickups. Thanks!
lipstick and goldfoil pick dont get enough spot like , cant u do vid on gold foils?
Or Trisonics.
Legitimately the best single coils I have ever used.
Casanova Funkenstein yes plus ^ totally forgot about those
gold foils?
Spot like?
@@rainbowslushy223 gold foil pickups were a type of cheap guitar pickup Japanese companies used in the 60s. But like Danelectro and lipstick pickups, these days gold fouls are highly sought out and well regarded. And many companies have started making NEW gold foil style pickups, in all sorts of shapes and sizes (so like you can get humbucker size or fender single coil size or p90 size etc)
They sound different to anything else I've ever heard. They've got a very rich complex tone. Ry Cooder is famous for using them for his slide guitar playing.
I'm planning to get a cheap good tele and put gold foils into it. They just sound so cool. It's hard to explain the sound really, so just go search for RUclips videos on them
I love the sound of a good lipstick for metal. I was originally turned onto lipsticks with distortion by 3 Days Grace using a danelectro baritone for their music.
Well who knew! great vid as usual Colin, cheers dude
Leo Fender is often described as a genius for his designs of Telecaster and Stratocaster guitars. But much of his real genius was designing and producing guitars that didn’t have to be made by luthiers with years of experience mostly by hand one at a time. Bolt-on necks, straight headstocks with string trees to get a break angle, adjustable bridge and saddle for correct intonation, pickups designed for the instrument, and inexpensive wood types rather than high end tone woods like rosewood, Brazilian mahogany, ebony and Sitka Spruce. Fenders were made mostly from ash, alder, and maple, inexpensive and easily sourced.
Nathan Daniel was also a genius for taking Leo’s direction and making even more inexpensive electric guitars with a unique tone of their own. He proved that they didn’t even need to be made of wood. They could be made from composite and even plastic with pickups stuffed into a real lipstick case. Genius.
People Make Glasgow, most accurate statement about any city ever! Studied there for 5 years, people there are honestly the friendliest I've ever met
My home toon, been in New Zealand for 15 years but there's still no place like home.
Best clean tone I ever got, was through some 60s Fender combo and a Silvertone guitar from the 60s with lipstick pickups. XD
And all this time I was thinking it was alien technology.
now i know they have a solid straigt magnet i'm gonna go stick it in a bass
Let us know how that works.
Dano lipstick pups are exelent! They give a great feel for easy playing.
Hot damn I’m in the vid, and thanks for all the info on lipstick pickups
They do very interesting things with heavier gain settings. In a guitar with mismatched pickups you can go from High gain to mid level OD when switching from a HB to a lipstick
My Dany lives on the neck position. Great wee jazz tone in that plastic hollow body!
Danelectro/silvertone guitars are actually made of masonite
what the hell is masonite this is new information
@@dru9918 A composite wood substitute in sheet form that was popular as a cheap building material in the 50s and 60s - the typical suburban dad would hang his tools from nails backed by a sheet of dark brown masonite in the garage when I was a kid
@@dru9918 Frequently used as kitchen counter tops right into the 70's.
@@dru9918 Masonite is very rigid and very light, but because of it's composite construction still allows for resonance. Pair that with the tone that lipstick pick ups produce and you have the unique and identifiable Danoelectric sound.
As one other commented; "Good enough for Jimmy Page, good enough for me..."
@@dru9918 Masonite is the wood used for skateboard ramps.
I have one of the original Silvertone 3/4 scale with one lipstick pu in it. I use it for slide. It sounds amazing through a cranked 50’s style Princeton or though a FuzzFace pedal. ☺️great video. Nice seeing people explore these tones. Those Danos are priced right, sound great and play great.
That’s one hell of a suppository.
If it's good enough for Tom Morello, it's good enough for me :D
4:43 brilliant acting! Lol
When I was a teen one of the first electric guitars I ever had a chance to play was my best friend's Silvertone that had a small amp built into the case. Although we didn't know anything about it at the time it also had lipstick pickups. Had a chuckle when he started playing because my best friend had an uncle who played some too. One the songs he would play was Walk, Don't Run.
Love my Dano Longhorn Bass with the LSP! Such a different tone than my other rigs.
I didn't know Danelectro still existed.
There is a lot you don't know
@@UmVtCg that can be said for everybody.
I love that colin was next to Chapman guitars in the begining
I would really like to see a (Fender) single, P90, lipstick, gold foil shoot out..... they are all so similar, but so VASTLY different.
@kevin paul halliday thanks!
@kevin paul halliday tonefiend with Joe Gore
Check out Ry Cooder and his Cooder-casters as a mixup of pickups on one guitar.
Actually liked the sound of the “neck” pup when you were playing... kinda more of a middle position, which makes me think, like Ryan was saying, add one in to a strat say in the middle keeping a traditional single coil at the neck & Humbucker at bridge could give some really cool tones.
I love the tone of the lipstick pickup.
Joe Gore, or Tonefiend on youtube, has a bunch of videos about lipstick pickups in wood guitars where he shows how they can do much more than surf rock.
I had a plastic Snoopy guitar when I was a kid sounded a bit like that, just saying.... I loved that guitar man.
Oh, a Waza Tube Amp Expander in the background. That looks promising.
Great explanation as always Colin!
Putting a video together on the WTAE at the moment. It's taking a while as there is a lot about the device to get through.
Interesting.
That was a question I would not have asked, because Noobee here had never heard of them.
Certainly a distinctive sound, I followed the link to Thomann where they have have demo clips.
Very 50's Americana look, and surprisingly expensive ~ But take that from a guy who admittedly knows squatt.
Thank you though, I really have learnt something here tonight.... You never know when this sort of knowledge would come in useful.
Worth noting: that classic Telecaster neck pickup, the kind with a chrome cover, is not a lipstick pickup. It's just a smaller single-coil, with polepieces and all, but covered. I came here to figure out if those pickups were lipsticks, and when I didn't find the answer here, I went to Quora of all places, lol.
Subscribed dude, great info as usual, keep giving the greatness
these sound perfect for a country movies soundtrack!
These sound incredible in a fender player duo Sonic!!!
I knew an excellent player from Dallas/Ft. Worth named Mark Merritt who received a Danelectro for his birthday about 20yrs ago and played it all afternoon with his mates in a nonstop recording session. They were kind of a blues rock/ "Texabilly" project, gigged occasionally, very good and compatible group of musicians. Mark seemed to be entranced by that guitar and forgot all about the dozens of folks who'd gathered at Earl Musick's studio that day from miles around for his birthday celebration. First time I'd seen or heard a 'Danny' live. Waaay cool sounding but really funky looking, like a cross between a surfboard and a kitchen appliance. Strikes me that the standard neck pup on a Tele looks a lot like a lipstick. Any thoughts on that?
great video ! I hope you have many more from TGU !
The middle position in danelectro's are wired to sound like a humbucker. Also they're not plastic as stated in the video
Thumbs up for the random Pete Thorn appearance.
Lepsteck
Tchyoube
Peckup
🤣🤣
They need more warmth and bottom end. Just a touch.
I was happy to see you flip that toggle switch and get a better sound.
Definitely something to keep in mind for those times when a quirkier sound is required
But, can they metal? 🤔
Until nayxt time, keep et lowd. And I'll see you laytair. ✌️
Paul Gilbert used one for heavy metal shredding in the 80s.
Notbrucevilanch Is there a video?
@@tyde4610 There were several a few years ago, he did a lot of covers, like Judas Priest and whatnot, but I haven't seen them in years.
Honestly can't find them anymore. They're either buried or deleted.
@@tyde4610 ruclips.net/video/Armm5VjtEmA/видео.html cover of The Ripper - Judas Priest
Band is Paul Gilbert - guitar, Russ Parish aka Satchel from Steel Panther on Bass, Jeff Martin on drums and vocals
There are some other covers from this show on the channel its posted on. Many cool covers. Satchel plays the Danelectro on some songs as well.
Dude, you could have played Kashmir by Zep on that bad boy in DADGAD.
SaintFredrocks Everyone who demos a danelectro does tho
I'll Dad your gad
Can't, copyright claim.
Jeez, that Dano is gorgeous! I have a Dano '59 12 string semi hollow and it plays like a dream for my sixties 12 string favorites.
But that 'Baby Blues' 59 NOS looks and plays fantastic and can probably offer quite a few more sounds than demonstrated.
On the Paul McCartney “grand central station” show, the danelectro was my favorite guitar tone (including his lefty ‘59 burst).
Mean sounds with a fuzz.
I’ve always wondered. Thanks for this.