Before I get any comments about it. Let me just say MOST photographers I've worked with are great, and have great people skills, cos lets be honest, it comes with the job! I'd say around 95% of them are great to work with, and they would know that i liked them if i wanted to share socials with them after. This video isn't about them, the good ones. Maybe I can make a video about 'great' photographers to work with (and why) next? This video covers some of the problems with the other 5%. And by starting a discussion, hopefully, maybe we can raise that number up to around 99.9% of great photographers (to work with). But MAINLY, as I've said, this video is aimed at fellow videographers. I will point them here (amongst other places) to get a quick idea of how I like to shoot. ** OH and VIDEOGRAPHERS please NOTE: ** The tripods should be on either side and out of the way. The examples here in this video, they are too close to the middle. It's cos I had no reference points. It should be next to the outer most chairs of the front row on either side. Or maybe a bit in front, so that when people stand up, they aren't blocking the view either. Oh and one more note. If there's absolutely no room at all. Like a wedding that's squashed under cover due to rain 🌧. Then you and photographer have no choice but to just share the aisle the whole time. Maybe you could try roaming around a bit with a second camera.... but you'll just get in your own shot. and these rainy contingencies...normally they are all standing. like along the verandah. just do ur best. FLORISTS and PLANNERS if you're watching this, please leave room for a good shot. DON'T have the font row of chairs too close to the front. Leave some space. Photo and Video will have to shoot over a crowd to get that typical 3/4 off to the side face of the couple doing their vows. BUT more importantly the poor people at the front and on the ends will only be able to see that back of one of the couple. Pretend you're in the audience when placing the chairs. ELON if you're watching this, please buy youtube also. GOD if you're watching this, please let me go back 20 years and make better decisions lol. ok, ok, i'll stop lol *edit; in hindsight I wish I didn't add any negativity or rant about photographers. Cos I always try to be nice and approachable. How u see me in this video is pretty much how I am at weddings or other shoots, but even more smiley and accommodating. Cos I want everyone to be comfortable. But even then... I sometimes come across the most awful people. 😖. (like this one guy at a recent model shoot). I'm not sure if it's all industries but this one definitely does sometimes attract this kind of person. But I will say, once I say the 'story' it's pretty much off my chest. hmm.. 🤔 here's a tip... maybe just have a journal... once it's down... its out of your mind. then u can concentrate on the positive....will try this. Cheers, Phil 🤙
coming from being a photographer first, there's definitely a whole different way you have to think about doing video that a lot of photographers probably never even consider. I got to second shoot for a few people that do hybrid coverage and a few for just video and once I started doing video on my own this year, I realize how much different it is than photo. Really great video, I'm always looking for new ideas to use
I'm a photographer and I had to deal with the exact opposite. For example 2 videographers standing right next to bride and groom on the altar for a long time so they were in a lot of the shots. And another time a videographer told me to go somewhere for the shot and if I listened I would have missed the shot because it was blocked when the bride and groom came in, just like I knew it would. Photographers and Videographers working together is best.
Hey, great video! Quick question regarding autofocus. As you mentioned, you set the focus and then flick it to manual mode. But is your aperture about 5.6ish? Or higher? I’ve been reliably leaving on auto focus as a solo shooter, but last wedding it was jumping around a little.
hey 👋 cheers 🙏. I've been keeping it pretty wide open. like f4 . sometimes 2.8! but you have to run around alot to make sure they haven't moved. actually if I choose to make one camera wide enough to include celebrant and couple then f4-f5.6 works well! but yeah stopping down means less running. less sexy shot but then we decide in the moment
Before I get any comments about it. Let me just say MOST photographers I've worked with are great, and have great people skills, cos lets be honest, it comes with the job!
I'd say around 95% of them are great to work with, and they would know that i liked them if i wanted to share socials with them after.
This video isn't about them, the good ones. Maybe I can make a video about 'great' photographers to work with (and why) next?
This video covers some of the problems with the other 5%. And by starting a discussion, hopefully, maybe we can raise that number up to around 99.9% of great photographers (to work with).
But MAINLY, as I've said, this video is aimed at fellow videographers. I will point them here (amongst other places) to get a quick idea of how I like to shoot.
** OH and VIDEOGRAPHERS please NOTE: **
The tripods should be on either side and out of the way. The examples here in this video, they are too close to the middle. It's cos I had no reference points.
It should be next to the outer most chairs of the front row on either side. Or maybe a bit in front, so that when people stand up, they aren't blocking the view either.
Oh and one more note. If there's absolutely no room at all. Like a wedding that's squashed under cover due to rain 🌧. Then you and photographer have no choice but to just share the aisle the whole time. Maybe you could try roaming around a bit with a second camera.... but you'll just get in your own shot. and these rainy contingencies...normally they are all standing. like along the verandah. just do ur best.
FLORISTS and PLANNERS if you're watching this, please leave room for a good shot. DON'T have the font row of chairs too close to the front. Leave some space.
Photo and Video will have to shoot over a crowd to get that typical 3/4 off to the side face of the couple doing their vows.
BUT more importantly the poor people at the front and on the ends will only be able to see that back of one of the couple.
Pretend you're in the audience when placing the chairs.
ELON if you're watching this, please buy youtube also.
GOD if you're watching this, please let me go back 20 years and make better decisions lol.
ok, ok, i'll stop lol
*edit; in hindsight I wish I didn't add any negativity or rant about photographers. Cos I always try to be nice and approachable. How u see me in this video is pretty much how I am at weddings or other shoots, but even more smiley and accommodating. Cos I want everyone to be comfortable.
But even then... I sometimes come across the most awful people. 😖. (like this one guy at a recent model shoot). I'm not sure if it's all industries but this one definitely does sometimes attract this kind of person.
But I will say, once I say the 'story' it's pretty much off my chest. hmm.. 🤔 here's a tip... maybe just have a journal... once it's down... its out of your mind. then u can concentrate on the positive....will try this.
Cheers,
Phil 🤙
Amen! We all legit need to talk about this - so many people filming over each other and getting in each others shots
also love the "those guys were dickheads" comment haha
@@JessePeacock 😅
coming from being a photographer first, there's definitely a whole different way you have to think about doing video that a lot of photographers probably never even
consider. I got to second shoot for a few people that do hybrid coverage and a few for just video and once I started doing video on my own this year, I realize how much different it is than photo.
Really great video, I'm always looking for new ideas to use
I'm a photographer and I had to deal with the exact opposite. For example 2 videographers standing right next to bride and groom on the altar for a long time so they were in a lot of the shots. And another time a videographer told me to go somewhere for the shot and if I listened I would have missed the shot because it was blocked when the bride and groom came in, just like I knew it would. Photographers and Videographers working together is best.
Great info and much appreciated. Do you set up lighting as well? Thank you.
Another great vid, thanks
Hey, great video!
Quick question regarding autofocus. As you mentioned, you set the focus and then flick it to manual mode. But is your aperture about 5.6ish? Or higher?
I’ve been reliably leaving on auto focus as a solo shooter, but last wedding it was jumping around a little.
hey 👋 cheers 🙏. I've been keeping it pretty wide open. like f4 . sometimes 2.8! but you have to run around alot to make sure they haven't moved. actually if I choose to make one camera wide enough to include celebrant and couple then f4-f5.6 works well! but yeah stopping down means less running. less sexy shot but then we decide in the moment
awesome info, ty
I use the monopod the same way as you.
brilliant 😎
You are dead on.!!
great thanks a lot I went to shoot my first wedding and I only got footage of the parking lot and the clients were pissed. Thanks you jerk