G80 M3 VS A90 SUPRA! (S58 vs B58 Battle..)
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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B58 vs S58, what a matchup! 😈🔥
Next time I am throwing some sand bags in your trunk. You know what would be interesting... race again and switch cars to see if our weight makes up that difference at 50/60
@@WhatsyourForte part of my driver mod is staying light. Lmfao
Reminds me of the e92 debate n54 vs s65 👀 Really cool vid
I'm surprised you want to go Pure instead of Big Boost or DocRace for the Supra Big Dawgs! But shit for a stock turbo I am thoroughly thoroughly impressed. I'm trying to talk Mike into keeping the M340.
If I wasn’t doing hybrid, I would have Ces Motorsport build me a custom garret kit
You should guys switch cars just for fun since there is like 150lbs bodyweight difference between you in him
Yes !
Word
Hes already hurt, why you gotta add to his pain. lol
Or just add couple of sand bags in the supra LoL
😂😂😂😂
Another awesome video brother, love being part of the B58 GanG...It's been fun watching the "Haters" turn to Admirers over the past year and a half. I've gotten so many mixed opinions, from random people about the pedigree of my MKV, and "It's not really a Supra bro, It's a BEAMER. The blending of 2 of the best engineering manufacturers out there isn't a negative in my book, quite the contrary, the joint venture has produced a pretty potent package with impressive tuning potential. I know I chose the right ride, it puts a smile on my face every time I'm in it, and when i get out and lock the door, I can't help but look back at that sexy Bish.... :) Ty for your content Brother.
I have an N55 but honestly the B58 is solid. Good power and I hear they're super reliable. Might be my next move...
Me over in here an N54😅
@@joshdominguez341 N54 is the German 2JZ. It can make more power than my N55 for sure!
Take the s58 bro, its a different next level beast
B58 Gang
Gang
Love the new M3 and I am real impressed with the new Supra’s performance with just a tune, E50 tune and maybe downpipes. Hella impressive and I certainly won’t sleep when I see Supra headlights beaming on my bumper. 😳
Both are beautiful, I know I have both, and while both my cars are modded.... My Supra has no chance..downpipes, flash tune, intakes on the Supra. G80 xdrive, ecu stage 1 tune and nothing else , eats my Supra, at any roll and at a quarter mile, the Supra with all my power ( 560 hp) I cannot get better than 11.2 obviously grip ) while the g80 constantly gets 10.5/10.6 Just a fact....also that dude must wiegh 290 pounds!!! Driver mod!! ;) Both on 94 octane. Also, the race chip that he swears by, is trash! And , I think you know it. Love your channel!
Once bootmod3 comes out with a tune for the s58 it’s a wrap, and full bolt ons the b58 won’t stand a chance
Not really the new m3 is a pig.
@@ie9284 on the track it’s a Diffrent story
@@joshdominguez341 it weighs to much
Add e85 and it’ll be hard to beat
@@joshdominguez341 you don’t know what you are taking about, the s58 is a bullet proof engine, no other Bmw engine comes near as tuning potential. Power to weigh ratio won’t even matter when these things are putting down 800bhp on stock turbos. Do some research before typing nonsense
I don’t know about the “Race Chip”, but I’d like to see the S58 also on an MHD tune. I have MHD on my F80 and the tune woke the car up a lot.
This channel has made me a Supra believer man. Now on the hunt for one. Thanks
I think the person honking the horn has the slight advantage. Even if it’s just a millisecond. And you honestly see these placebo tunes and they feel faster on the butt dyno, and you get them on the rollers, and they’re worse.
I'm actually really shocked. I would like to see some injectors on the G80 what's E on it. RK tunes did it with a piggyback tune and that thing was putting down some major power.
“Do the B58 dance, do the B58 dance!”🎤🎶 lol 👍😂
No more burbles! I think my boi Thic finally grew up! Love it! Sounds sooooooo much better!
Old man now
I’m not big on the burble tunes, I’ll give up the burble tunes to hear the turbo spool any day
I like to do the B58 dance too 🎤🎵🎶 catchy tune, catchy car man. Supra is my dream vehicle. Well done guys.
Supra was the most uncomfortable car I'd driven since maybe a S2000. Only way I could even sit in the car was to have the seat nearly fully forward and the back reclined a good bit. It felt like the car was designed for a different species. I asked the sales guy how he fit in it. He said not well. I loved the BMW engine in it but the seating position was extremely uncomfortable.
Damn that makes me sad but I believe it, Supra looks so tiny. How tall are you?
@@Blaze-ing I'm just 6'0" tall. The car has to be driven in a somewhat reclined position. If you're one of those folks who have your seat so far reclined that people outside see your head in the passenger window behind you, then the Supra is going to be ideal for you. I did not enjoy the seating position at all. I've owned a C6, two Camaro's, a BRZ, a Cayman S, RS3 and a few GTI's before that, a few BMW's and I've never found any of them to be anywhere near as uncomfortable.
A lot of uninformed people on this. Long story short, Bmw came to toyota to build a engine worthy of power and reliability. Toyota wanted to revive the supra but bmw wanted the reliability. Bmw wasn’t interested in a sports car because they has too many lined up. But toyota wouldn’t do it without reviving the supra so bmw gave in. They decided to revive the Z4 and put the engine in it. It was a win win. Toyota had more to do with it then most people think. Bmw had a hard time keeping up with toyota’s quality control. However, both Z4 and Supra was built on an entirely different chassis and platform. Tuned entirely different. Similarities were engine, suspension and transmission. Tuned totally different. The results show when you see the Z4 and supra go head to head. People see bmw on the inline 6 and think its a rebadge, it’s actually not.
When the Supra build is so clean you just so happen to “accidentally” start ordering same exhaust and wheel color combo🤷🏼♂️
Smart man 🤌🏽
People bragging as if it’s their own legs running and racing, all you’re doing is pressing a pedal with your foot LOL
Not going to lie, I was not expecting the Supra to absolutely crush the G80. What a beast!
Listen what mods has supra ad what mods has the m3🤣
Good to see two friends duking it out friendly
There is no tuning available for S58 just yet. Although, is being said the cracked the code, still not out. I’m still going with that M3, at one point they’ll have something to upgrade that power output, and that chasis stiffness for a factory car, is worth the wait.
I think the difference is the tune on the ZF8. It seems to respond much better because you changed the mapping on yours.
I think driver mod goes a long way, you should switch cars and see what happens 💯
Nah, I stay light for a reason lol
Supra used different fuel which also gave it another advantage. Good runs for cars in different classes. Both great cars
This was all discussed in video, nobody hiding anything. S58 with racechip 93, b58 on e50 tune
For science, you two swap out drivers, James drives the Supra and Jon drives the M3. Go!
damnnn thats close. tuned and downpiped S58s are gonna be savage
You always upload around this time idk why im awake haha 12 am in Australia for me 💀💀
10am eastern ✅
Speculation of a 2025 GRMN s58 supra. Would you get one if it comes out?
Not only did you start pulling the zoomed mirror out, you murced dat bois energy for the summer until he goes FBO. Ya didn’t have to do him dirty like that thicccc
It’s more impressive the s58 is so close with just a race chip. Fbo e85 b58 is quick but s58 w same mods would dookie on the b58
S58 is a better version of the B58, that's kinda what you would expect , right ?
Unpopular opinion, I think the GTS tail lights look cheesy but that's just me
Right there with you mean… the oem lights are perfect.. the gta lights make the rear end look even more LEXUSeee😅
BMer had an anchor driving it.
lol, I am 6'3 330lbs,
It’s amazing how much tj looks exactly like the US.
Hahahaha
I’m 6’3 ….is that a deal breaker with this car?
I have a b58 attached to 4 doors ;). Is the s58 designed to better handle higher power output? In other words, if the b58 and s58 had the same hp & ft-lb torque, would the s58 be more reliable?
Excellent content man. So you have ecu tune, e40, full exhaust (the power making parts)? Your car rips!! Whats it do 100-200kph/60-130?
Both cars are just so very clean AF. Ya'll should be proud you got goals type cars.
Is that G80 a manual? Looks like you can see the Supra jump ahead everytime the G80 has to shift. Makes me think it’s a manual which would explain why it’s slower.
400lb difference between the cars is just too much haha
That new bmw front end looks like cell from dbz
would u pay 20k more than the supra for the grmn version for the s58 upgrade?
Classic fun runs guys love it 😊
I know this works for the N55 but not sure about the B58. Have taken a look at putting in an N52 exhaust cam in your B58? Solid power gains of 40-50whp.
What with an N52 exhaust cam ?!?
@@joshdominguez341 yes, search it up.
B58 dance killed me 😂
Man when you was doing the b58 dance i almost lost it😂😂😂
🕺🏽🤪
Oh snap!
What does the M3 have done to it? I’m in a meeting so I have the volume all the way down 😝
The videos do not do enough to drive my selection of either choice if this were a coin flip. However, I am delighted with both unique models, being they come from the same design house at Bavaria. I am attuned to acquire my keys at the moment and begin as the ultimate driving machine 🙏😺😁
Thic!!! Did you ever get your car tuned for methanol injection? Maybe I missed it in one of your 4399 videos. Lol lol. What power did obtain from just adding the AEM methanol with Boost Juice? I just had mine retuned for the same setup.
wonder what that s58 can do with some e85 sauce :O
Fucking demolish. I’m trynna get James to throw some e content in that tank for the hell of it. I guarantee it would be a diff outcome if he did
rktunes made 670 on his g80 with e85
@@ThicWhips Yeah im pretty sure stock fuel system and stock tune can handle a couple drops of E. Help temps and could add a bit of torque. Definitely keep dropping that content :)
homie hoped out of the car a whole different person..
talk about keeping that energy 💀
Mods on the B58 Hp and Torque ?
Considering the Supra probably weighs 400lbs less & is catless with meth or E85, I think it’s more of a win for the M3. Great races. Catless DP’s & E85 & the S58 will gain another 70-100whp
Bruh, we went over what each car has how’d you end up with meth and e85? 😂
@@ThicWhips “I’m on my usual E40-E50 blend tune with MHD” 1:33 but I’m the one that’s tripping? Lol. Intro was super boring I just wanted to see the race. Better luck next time? 😂🤦🏻♂️. I also said E85 or meth bc you’ve talked about meth in the past but I already see the “E85 iSnT E45 ThO” comment coming 🤣🤣
That M3 is pricey now. Used to be 60-65k but these are closer to $85k now
120k and more here in Europe, it's a full on luxury car now...
Not me I've seen on RUclips supra walked down a radical and left it
Love the Supra looks like mine lol. Seriously though, people still "chip" cars? 🤔
I've got a DME flash tune on my A90 Launch with a few bolt ons and it easily hits 525hp on 93. Not many hang with it in a roll going 40mph. I've noticed 3rd to 4th gear where some serious acceleration happens
Da B58 Dance. Boy you a fool. I 🤣🤣🤣
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Yes sir. 2 boss whips. That's how to get it done
The last 60 roll was the only clean run. Good stuff 👍
Nah he got me from 40… I don’t stand a chance with the weight I have until I get a tune. 50 was close and 60 I think I won by 2 inches depending on who you ask. 😂
Why Thic delete his comment? Did he review and see that the 1st race James was snoozin, 2nd run was good. I looked at it again, 3rd run "bad start"....bad start, 4th run James was sleep again 😴 and had his window all the way down. Wake up James smell the coffee, next run James let up early, maybe there was traffic. 6th run, hit it at the same time, ran it thru. Clean run.....unless I'm blind , I don't have my contacts in yet
@@mattjonesrst I shouldn’t have responded in the first place. Not worth it. Have a great day though, I’m glad you’re enjoying the content im creating for you
I am enjoying it, thank you. I watch every video you post and I'm getting a Supra myself because of your videos. I'm not throwin shade. It was good stuff 👍
@@mattjonesrst Supras leave hard from a 40, trust. It’s just that much faster than the G80. No one sleeping lol
Those edits were hilarious 😆
B58 🔥🔥🔥
I will take my 60 roll win and let you have those lower speeds, lol
60 roll win eh? 😂
@@ThicWhips based on where my back wheel was I calculate that I should win by 3-4 inches 😂
@@WhatsyourForte I was eating that gap up boy. 😂
@@ThicWhips we shall see when I drop my video. You will see it from my cameras. 😂
@@WhatsyourForte I can tell forward momentum regardless of camera. But I’ll be glad to review your footy fella 😇
If the Supra is bone stock the S58 will win. This isn’t rocket science. I have a M4 2022. The car is faster. Yes If you tune it it will be faster but once you tune a S58 it’s silly to think about. What is the purpose for the M car to lose against it’s one step below engine. B58 is a single incline 6 S58 is a twin turbo incline 6. It’s a completely different engine.
Good runs both of you. Boy, you make me want to switch to MHD 🤣
did you have an other display ??
The B58 is an amazing motor
Is that look at that BMW! It's a 4 door sadan. I mean it probably Weighs 🤷 maybe 4,200 lbs? That sup is like what 3,500 lbs? The Weight definitely is a Huge Factor!
Piggyback tunes have a 100 mile or so adaptive curve before they achieve max hp don't they?
Awesome build…. Whats your 100-200kmph or 60-130mph time?
Omg this is so suspenseful like watching a thrilling movie! I can’t wait to see!!! On the edge of my seat!!
does anyone know the kind and percent tints he has on the supra?
THAT SUPRA LOOK SUPER
Heading should be 80K Supra vs 200K BMW
Sheesh go get my boy Forte a chocolate chip frappe!! Good Run
Did you tint those taillights? Looks really good
What is done to this supra? New to this channel.
I’m ready to see downpipe and custom tune for the g80
I think everyone is lol
Bootmod3 is working on it
That G80 is going to whip ur a** 🤣 let me go back to the video
We all know BMW regrets giving this engine too toyota. LMAOO
I feel as Toyota regrets giving bmw reliability check because the b58 is going into every bmw.
If you researched the history, bmw came to toyota. In the past they have built great cars together. They wouldn’t be where they are without one another. The M3 is the best bmw have with speed and reliability, which is way less reliable than the b58.
i see that you don’t have the trunk curtain installed is that due to the metallic rattle it creates with aftermarket exhaust
Yeah I pulled it out, too much rattle
@@ThicWhips it’s horrendous how bad it rattles
where did he got those taillighs ? I have a g82 m4 and I would love them on my car !
Straight line racing, how American 😂
That sound of the horn!!!
It's funny that some people said the supra was " ugly " I think it looks stunning.
The m3 ... 😂😂
Great video mate, what do you think for the money what’s the best sports car under 80k. All classes included! 😆
not to be funny, i think james weight might have played a role.
The Bupra has the power 💪🏾… S50what?
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Good stuff, loving the joint content 👍🏿👍🏿.
Thats goood for now, but wait till the g80 is able to get a legit tune.. and then even an ethanol tune.. then its game over haha
That intake sounds nasty!
How many horses this GR Supra got?
I would buy one but to manny hatters on this car .
Once they can actually tune the G80 it will be a lot faster the Supra isn’t stock, the G80 has a piggy back.
B58 dance slapping 💯
at least James started off with a positive mindset lol
Lol
I think the driver is the difference here
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