Do you think that maybe the original script of Padme almost killing Vader deserved to be scrapped tho? Because with such a scrapped idea the fandom was more hostile to Padme than usual
@@indiramartinezmorales7674 Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
@@PikaJayMason And her children inherited so much from her, which is even more tragic. Leia followed in her mother's footsteps and opposed authoritarianism. Luke eventually came to awaken the heart of gold and compassion Padme had in life by the time of Return of the Jedi.
Padmé's heart and kindness makes her as much of a Jedi as her Husband and Son are. Same with her mother-in-law Shmi. They both would be so proud of their son and grandson respectively.
Padme has always been one of my personal favorite characters in Star Wars. She may not have had the force but she still served it as much as any Jedi. I think we could all agree that if she did have the force she would have been one of the greatest Jedi that ever lived
@@adaradavina7450 I'm pretty sure he said that about Leia not Padme. Plus I think what your referring to is a line that was later scrapped and not used. Padme was confirmed to be non force sensitive everything surrounding Padme having the force is all fan theory
@adaradavina7450 I just looked it up and it says that it was a scrapped scene plus I recently rewarched Phantom menace and don't recall Yoda saying that at all
2:02 let me stop you right there: Padmé is very involved from the beginning of the film; she’s just ‘young and naive’ as Sidious said and is a clear pacifist. When her communications were cut she refused to mobilize more than her security forces to avoid a war, but an invasion was put on her/her people whether she wanted war or not. To call her a chess piece not used until the end is a disservice to her character. She also surprised Palpatine by returning to Naboo, created an alliance with the Gungans (after noting what Jar Jar said on Coruscant), was a capable warrior in her own right, trusted Qui Gon even against her better judgement, and utilized her decoys efficiently. She was the opposite of Palpatine: someone genuinely trying to better as many people as possible with no selfish desires (and that’s how she was manipulated into casting a vote of no confidence for one of the few supporters she had). She’s only selfish when it came to her love for Anakin, and that was after she thought the Republic was lost and their best chance to live any sort of life of peace was to run away and hide
Striving to see the good and potential in anyone, no matter who they are. Even in her enemies or in those who wronged or disappointed her; the Seperatists (even Gunray included), Rush Clovis, Anakin...Padme even tried to see it in Palpatine, until he showed completely who he was. It's this quality of unconditional compassion that made her an incredible heroine. And in passing it on to Luke, she helped to bring Anakin back to the light. Padme is rightly honoured here. Thank you.
The name Padme seems to be derived from the Sanskrit name Padma, which means lotus. The lotus is a symbol of purity and regeneration. Palpatine's first name is Sheev, taken from Shiva, the God of destruction. Lucas even named them as opposites, the light and dark sides of Anakins psyche.
That would make a lot of sense. Many names in star wars are real words in other language than english, but slightly different. I recognised a few french, german, and russian words as well. But what you said is certainly accurate. I'm sure it's the reason why these names were chosen.
Padme was the mother of the rebellion, in more ways than one. Not only in her political actions serving as the foundation of the rebellion's ideology, but also because her children became two of its biggest hero. I wish George had focused on her more in the films and I wish we would have seen Leia elected Chancellor in the sequels, as Padme should have been Chancellor herself.
It's a crime that most of her scenes in ROTS, especially the Delegation 200, were cut out by Lucas because it would have shown her being a part of the early rebellion and passing it on to her children.
Pat: "As Darth Sidious hurtled down a reactor shaft on the second Death Star--" Me: He reflected on his life. "Do you ever have one of those moments when you think, 'How the hell did I get here?' "
Padme Amidala Naberrie Skywalker will always be an inspiration and not only one of my favorite characters in tv history, but one of the best characters to come of of Star Wars ❤❤❤
That's often the problem with making female characters little more than the love interest, their actual character suffers as they only have any real meaning when it relates to the man in their life. I'm so happy the Clone Wars actually did so much more with her character.
Timothy Zahn did a great job with his take on Padme for Thrawn: Alliances, which made her critical to the story. He made Thrawn appreciate how much Padme showed how great Anakin was as a warrior and a good man despite his fears
@@SolidAvenger1290 I've not read it, though from what you've mentioned there it still sounds as though her importance is only tied to Anakin and not really about her.
@brydon5721 not physically, of course at specific times, but spirituality/faithful to Anakin's ability to get through anything. The ending of the book shows how great Padme is as a character, and Thrawn understood that Padme was truly Anakin's better half with her determination to see things through.
In Legends continuity, she was probably an even bigger hero than this video suggests: the prequel-cognizant junior novelization of ROTJ heavily implies that, watching Luke suffer under Palpatine's wrath, the memory of Padme and her love broke through to him, and it was in defense of HER son that Anakin Skywalker overcame Darth Vader.
Padme has always, ALWAYS been my favorite Star Wars character since I saw Episode 1 as a little girl. She is by far the smartest Star Wars character (other than Thrawn), and the most badass.
Top Class Video guys! I really agree that Padmé is such an important character in Star Wars- she defeated Palpatine, and all without a lightsaber or the Force- simply put, she had the power of her words, her ideals, and ultimately who she was.
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 They both definitely could have benefitted from marriage counseling. Another thing I will knock her for is the fact that she knew an Anakin had these darker tendencies ever since he bluntly admitted to murdering the Tuskans, including the women and children. Yet, she didn't even bat an eye at it. Weather it was because she was so in love with him, she turned a blind eye or she felt he was at least partially justified, I cannot say. She also knew he had those nightmares before and they were real, so she can also be faulted for not taking them seriously enough to maybe warn the Jedi or at least Obi Wan. As for the whole Clovis thing, it was pretty apparent that they were both using each other for their own ends so I won't count it as cheating, though not cluing Anakin in on it was still bad because she knew he wouldn't take it well. BUT, even with all that in mind, she did NOT deserve what happened to her. Watching the love of your life, the father of your children, turn into a monster that would slaughter children and betray everything he stood for because he was twisted and manipulated, and then attempt to kill you because he thought you were turning on him. I would never wish that on anyone, even if they were a legitimate two timer.
@@darknessoftruth9314 Unfortunately, one particular antihero called God Killer Vegito (who seemingly will never again believe in second chances because of the Gods) would call Padme a deadweight wimp for falling in love with alledgedly a man who secretly uses the force to make her lover by force (no pun intended). And Vegito would unhestitantly either kill Anakin right away or slowly torture him alive for minutes for the sake of proving his point that Anakin is a God who secretly uses Padme for his goals and a God's mere existence is a big no no by God Killer Logic. So yeah. Even if Padme's fate in ROTS was very cruel and unfair, all antiheroes who're way too selective with second chances have other things in mind
@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 It sounds like he is a sociopath who needs just as much therapy as Anakin. It also shows that he has no understanding of the basic nature of Star Wars, and I dare say reality in general.
@@darknessoftruth9314 And spoilers for Ultra Vegito Season 2: He will end up worse than Vader because of each Demon Emperor he absorbs. Worse than even...... Lucif. I hope you like this manga made by CALLMEARJ. It's as badass as Dragon Ball Kakumei. Tonight we have also another new UV Episode.
I live near the ocean, and one of my favorite pastimes is going out onto the beach to see what the waves have brought to shore. Mostly, its seashells, driftwood and seaweed. But rarely, it's the corpses of dead sea creatures. Oftentimes, it's impossible to tell what the creature was in life due to the decay and scavenging. The Republic, in many ways, was like the rotten carcasses i see wash up on shore; so rancid and decayed you cant even guess what it was like in life. Many of the senators of the Republic are like the carrion beasts that peck and tear at the remains, desperately trying to gain some advantage. In all honesty, Padme is a tragic figure, because the Republic and ideals she so loved had died long before the first shot of the Clone Wars was fired on Geonosis.
That's a pretty good analogy. Although, I personally feel the Republic wasn't dead before the Clone Wars. It was severely damaged and injured for sure, but it still could have been saved. For me, it didn't fully become a full corpse until sometime during the Outer Rim Sieges, which was when it was beyond saving.
Terrific video, truly. But it makes me question all the more Padme's death. She doesn't seem the type of woman to lay down and die of a broken heart. I wish they'd given her a true cause of death; internal injury from Anakin's attack, something other than "woe is me, my man hurt me, I must die now". She survived what was essentially betrayal by the Old Republic as it showed itself to be corrupt and irredeemable. She survived the reworking of her world view and hugely changing circumstances. She even maintained there was "good in him" to the end. This is NOT a woman who would give up living without physical cause.
Ok yes I agree with you on the idea that Padme wasn't the type of woman to simply lay down and die from a broken heart... From what I believe Padme died because Palpatine needed to use her "lifeforce" to bring Darth Vader to life... in essence; "a life for a life" ....Because at the end of Episode 3 that's when Annakin essentially dies and Darth Vader comes to life....and the only reason he does is because Padme dies after giving birth to Leia & Luke .....Palpatine orchestrated this all.....in my opinion.... He knew that eventually Padme's ideology would crush him and his ego and his beliefs....Palpatine used Annakin to take Padme off the chess board...so to speak.....a way of eliminating his biggest threat...and by Palpatine telling Anakin that Padme had betrayed him...well you knew then that Padme wouldn't live long.... Which is something that I don't agree with!! I have never liked the fact that Padme was killed!! Just my opinion.. Sorry I wrote so much but I wanted to explain everything so you could understand what I mean....
if people were willing and able to spend all day at the movie theater and or at home because they'd have to be almost 24 hours long TV shows can do that with more story detail but movies have better piture quality
@@quantemwensday Bull Shirts!! A well written script can, and often will go further with giving a character "depth", than almost any amount of "swashbuckling adventure" really ever could!!
doesn't matter how well written the script is time is limited that can be bad because we'd get a lot of unimportant boring stuff in-between important main story stuff but unfortunately good things do get removed for various reasons coomer phegg it
@@quantemwensday I just can't seem to defy, nor define logic as sound as your own, so tight is that logic, that it bares no small resemblance to a sub-aquatic rectal sphincter ... and that shits damn watertight!!
A shame luke and leia never met padmé or her side of their family or most of them. I could picture the looks on padmé's parents if they found out they had grandchildren who helped save the galaxy and carried on her legacy. I could see them telling luke and leia stories about their mom and what she did for the said galaxy.
@@jmwilliamsart Reminds of that story where she ended up being frozen in carbonite to stop her from dying right after childbirth and was found by her daughter shortly after the end of the war…
@@bkjeong4302Seriously? What story is this from? I love Star Wars and I have tried to read as many books about the lore and legends of some of the characters.... I have never ever heard of that particular story!!! 😮 Could you please steer me in the right direction to be able to read more about it???
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
I really enjoyed this breakdown. It's very detailed, well written, shows the true reach of the effect of her beliefs and actions, and is very respectful to her character. Very well done on this video😊🙏.
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
Remember when Anakin as a kid asked Padme if she was an Angel? She chukled at Anakin bare Child innocence..except here Anakin might have let his jedi like intuition speak loud, as it was clear to him. I beleive she is even thought she does not know or have been trained in Jedi ways to discover her true self.
This video has enhanced my adoration of the politics of Star Wars. From steadfast, good characters like Padme, the odyssey of Star Wars becomes more poetic. From 2 opposing individuals of alike characteristics but different personalities that dualed in words rather than swords & blasters, we are gifted another poetic reminder from George Lucas about the death of democracy & rise/danger of Authority. Great mini-doc, loved it. Great video. & happy [very ._.] late Natalie Portman birthday.
Despite having been used as the means to allow Sidious ascension to the chancellorship, Padme for the rest of her life, was his main political opponent and thorn in his side when it came to his plans to creating an empire our of the republic, slowing down and frustrating his plans at every turn. Plus even after her death, her love and devotion to democracy having nurtured the foundations of the rebellion before it, lit the flame for its return twenty years later as well as in shape of her children provided two of the most critical leaders and forces that would ensure the downfall of sidious and his empire.
Indeed, Padme’s legacy would carry on in the Rebellion, and in her two children Luke and Leia. Palpatine might have won the battle, but in the long run Padme won the war. Luke may have inherited Anakin’s spirit, but he also inherited Padme’s heart, and that’s how he was able to reach out to Anakin.
@@jmwilliamsart Truer words were never spoken and yes Luke having his mother's heart and belief that there is still good in his father, is the driving force that helps Vader be brought back from the dark side and kill Sidious.
I wouldn't exactly say she was overshadowed by the other main characters. Could very well be just me but growing up with the prequels and somewhat the Clone Wars her character had a pretty sizable impact on me. She was a damn good moral contrast to a corrupt senate. She was a strong and independent minded female character that still was able to embrace her femininity. I've heard some people claim she was a weak female character who was plagued by George's "patriarchal viewpoints" but I could never see it. She stood on her own very well to me. She was that moral lens you could view the politics of the Republic through. Take her out of the movies and the corruption could easily fly right over your head. Maybe it's just me but that's how I've always viewed it.
These feminist also wished she was as bloodthirsty as Gohan used to be. The very early draft that ROTS was gonna have until Lucas went against that idea
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
It seems to me that both Padme and Anakin had to grow up faster than many of their peers. Padme after the experience in the refugee relief movement, and Anakin had a miserable life as a slave, and being in the Jedi temple.
Even though Lucas limited Natalie's time on-screen, Padme is still an epic character, and one of my favorites in the saga. She was smart, brave, wise, selfless, playful, loving, and merciful...and yet her heart was so vulnerable for the weak that Sidious took full advantage of it. He knew that if Anakin were pushed to his breaking point, he would even turn against the woman he loved out of desperation...which is exactly what happened.
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
Padme lived on though luke and leia and luke may have look like anakin but like his mother he truly believed anakin could be redeem i am just sad that they barely know anything about padme
Padme played her part in the chosen one prophecy and was ultimately forfiling his destiny when turned to the darkside he was always going to turn back eventually no one realised it George lucus confirmed all of this
What I want to know is how the Separatists became the villains they are. Yes, Dooku and Palpatine originally intended for the CIS to be an enemy that makes the Republic become the Empire, but it was only at the end of the Separatist Crisis that both the Separatist Council and Separatist Military were formed. Even if there were senators on the council, there’s no real indication of the Separatist Parliament having any influence on the council. What the hell kept the Separatists from being like the Rebel Alliance or the New Republic? From what it looks like in Canon, the parliament had no true say over the military while the Republic Senate and the Jedi Order had true control, though of course that control is wiped out with the near-extinction of the Jedi and the Senate surrendering nearly all of its power to Palpatine by the end of the war. But with the CIS, it sometimes seems like an early version of the Empire. First comes the powerless legislature. The Bad Batch does show that the Imperial Senate wasn’t completely powerless at first and that Palpatine still had to pull the same moves he did as chancellor. Sometime between the Bad Batch and Andor though, the Senate’s only purpose is to legitimize Palpatine’s rule to the point that there was probably no disruption when the Senate was finally dissolved and completely replaced by the sector governors who already had plenty of power since the Outer Rim Sieges. In the Separatist Alliance, the parliament isn’t completely powerless as it can still make peace with the Republic and would have taken issue with Dooku illegally taking over the banks, but it seems the parliament had no say on military matters. The Separatist Council robbed worlds of money like on Ryloth and imprisoned whole populations as a labor force like on Mon Cala. Dooku even ordered a genocide of a whole planet in the last year of the war in Canon and won a humanitarian award shortly afterwards. What was with this complete separation of power where the parliament handles domestic issues while the council ran the war effort? My best guess in favor of the good Separatists is that they thought Dooku kept the council on a leash. Second comes the evils of the military itself. The Droid Army and Navy were run by horrible and corrupt people, just like the Imperial Military. The only difference is most of these leaders were corporate businessmen in the Separatists and mostly actual military men in the Empire. And yet we get similar outcomes. Armies completely taking over planets and their governments. The Republic of course was not perfect. Many of the first Imperial officers were of course members in the Republic military, which was what elevated them to their Imperial positions. Tarkin in Canon killed thousands of people on a planet just nine months after the war began. There was torture as well. And even after Tarkin left, the following siege wrecked the planet’s environment. Part of me wonders if Palpatine covered up Tarkin’s crimes so he could keep him around. No doubt the Jedi Order would raise hell over what Tarkin did if they knew. Another thing of course is that while the Separatists started the Death Star Project, it was the Republic that kept it going after the Second Battle of Geonosis till the end of the war. Part of me wonders if that is why the Republic only had the Electro-Proton Bomb as a superweapon in Canon. The Death Star must have taken up all the secret superweapon funds the Republic had. Still the Separatists churned out plenty of superweapons just like the Empire, weapons that were needlessly cruel. I won’t include the Subjugator Warship because that seems like a humane and useful weapon, but the Defoliator and the Blue Shadow Virus are definitely brought up in mind. One wiped out all organic material and another could infect and kill every living being. Both were nearly mass produced and deployed all over the galaxy. Finally, the dictator leader. Even the Rebel Alliance had an actual council, even if it led to democratic gridlock like just before Scarif. To be fair like Palpatine, Dooku has to play nice in public. Yet in the Republic, Palpatine never seemed to do any actual commanding or strategy during the war, leaving it up to the Jedi and only checking in for updates while Dooku did actually directly command the military. From the looks of it, Dooku is the only person outside the Separatist Council that gets involved in military matters while in the Republic, senators could pull rank on the Jedi and their clone troopers. Now seriously, what is with this? True, they were also at war just like the Republic, but in the case of the Republic, the transition to Empire took most of not the whole war while in the CIS, it seems Val most instant after the war began. It’s almost like the Separatist Parliament and citizens just left the whole war effort to Dooku and the Separatist Military despite the latter being made up by the very corporations that caused trouble for decades. Why is it the Separatists couldn’t turn out like the Rebel Alliance? It’s basically like the Republic was a good guy version of the Empire and the Separatists were a bad guy version of the Rebels. If the Empire is a cautionary tale about the Republic, are the Separatists a cautionary tale about that what the Rebels could have become?
You could say Padmè was the Force to Palpatine’s Dark Side. As the Force will always balance itself out by purging the Dark Side of it’s power, so she (implicitly through Luke and Leia) balanced galactic affairs by bereaving him of his power.
Padme has always been, and always will be, my favorite Star Wars character. She in incredible! Same can be said for Natalie Portman. She is a wonderful person and was the best choice for the role of Padme. I would love to see a live action series of her time as queen. Natalie has barely aged, it would be amazing.
Disney star wars creators/writers and execs need to watch this and stop trying to erase her/ ignore her in the cannon. My girl may not have been a force users but she was an incredible women.
Won't be surprised if Disney all this time did the most unthinkable: make the universe hate and forget Padme for the rise of Darth Vader. Meaning the fear of being forgotten bigger than death in Batman Arkham Knight now thrown in the SWVerse
wait just curious why do you think they're trying to ignore her? in the past few years, she's had a trilogy of books about her, a pretty heavy plotline in the comics based on her legacy (and her handmaidens), some ties like Panaka recognizing Padme's influence in Leia, she had multiple episodes about her in Forces of Destiny, and she was in TCW season 7. I don't think Lucasfilm is really trying to ignore her, she just doesn't have a lot of screen potential left so they end up exploring her character in other media instead
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
I have to say that it was pretty clear that the Seps had been planning a war long before the Republic even considered remaking their own army. They had millions of battle droids by the time of Geonosis and that doesn't just happen overnight, even with massive factories, you need a LOT of logistics in place to make that kind of an army, and it would've needed to have taken years to get the ball rolling, even with the backing of the Corporate Alliance.
Episode 2 has a cut scene of her in the Senate arguing against the war bill that shouldn't have been cut. We didn’t get to see what she actually does as a senator in the films. Padme needed more of a role on her own in episode 2 and 3 but her scenes were cut. She started the rebellion but we didn't see it.
The thing that always makes me chuckle though is her whole "I want to save and help people and wish to be a pacifist so I'm gonna marry this guy that I've realistically known for about a week and who confessed to slaughtering a village including the children/babies." I like Padme I think she's an interesting character but that one moment really messes with her character really makes her seem hypocritical, especially for someone who espouses the views she does.
If I have to translate it on Beerus language she failed to protect the galaxy because of her own leniency. Portman's character might have unknowingly tributed the unecessary compassion of Son Goku big time
Padme is my favorite character and yeah that scene threw me off so bad my brain now skips over it like it never happened, and i have to remind myself it did
This is one of the things that frustrated GL. IIRC, he'd voiced his frustration with not being able to flesh out her character more. So he gave it to the book authors and TCW to express her catalytic and pivotal role. The Prequels showed some of it, but, since a lot of the effects she had on Palpatine's defeat came across as hinging on her relationship with Anakin, she got overshadowed. Her advice to Bail shows that she would have beaten him two ways instead of three if she wasn't married to Ani. In fact, I believe that she would have lived long enough to see it through if he hadn't choked her. And THAT happened because Ben stowed away and unintentionally pushed Ani over the edge. 🤦♂️ It may have taken 20 years either way, but, with her, leah, and her allies, the Republic could have been restored directly into a new Golden Age, rather than the feeble New Republic we got. Meanwhile, Anakin and Luke would have made the Reformed Jedi together as father and son. Orange and purple lightsabers in equal measure with the white, blue, and green.
And Anakin could unlock his true potential by being true balance instead of only Jedi. In this regard Palpatine was right. Anakin’s should look for large view of the Force (dark side with light side). He is the only one who can be (Chosen One) pure balance. 🙂🤍🖤
If I had infinite money I'd wanna direct a remake of the star wars movies. With more focus on how strong the characters realy are. I adore these character analasys
Timely, considering whose birthday it is today (alongside a certain independence day). A pity Legends, for once in a while (face it, a continuity that has spawned the likes of The Crystal Star, the Denning-verse, and The Old Republic MMO shouldn't be deemed as a flawless godlike entity; if every porkchop were perfect, we wouldn't have hotdogs), did such an important character dirty, all while I'm still debating if Grey DeLisle-Griffin (her Clone Wars 2003 voice actress, among other works) or Catherine Taber (The Clone Wars 2008 VA) is the definitive animated Padme voice. Thoughts?
🥀You did a wonderful job.🥀 The analyzes of characters like Padmé are always interesting. As a fan of Star Wars since the "prequels era", I enjoyed every quote and reference, and not just because Padmé and Palpatine are my two favorite characters from the saga, but also because they are the embodiment of opposites of each other.🥀 Padmé is a fantasy character very dear to me, I see her a lot and often notice a certain indifference towards her, and your analysis has given me a further positive point of view that I had never thought about, and in fact yes, it is It was Padmé, her ideals and legacy that brought democracy back to the galaxy far, far away.🥀
According to the purest source of canon we have - dialogue from the original trilogy - Padme should have lived longer than the day of her birth. That is, unless George wanted us to believe Leia could remember her mother from the day she was born. Massive Padme plot hole #1. Plot Hole #2 is big enough to fly a Star Destroyer through. It's that Palpatine told Vader that Padmen had died before she gave birth to the children, from his force choke. 19 years later, Vader ought to have been utterly pissed at Palpatine. See search terms: 'Auralnauts Reimagined' and check out 'A New Hope Reimagined' and 'Empire Strikes Back Reimagined'. Return of the Jedi got some treatment too, but it's mostly playing episodes 7-9 and Mandalorian for laughs.
the crux point between prequels and originals was her death, but someone like padme just "losing their will to live" when she still has responsibilities, especially two newborn ones... that never made sense to me. i realize she was doomed by the narrative there but still.
That's the difference between the new character and the old one, old ones didn't do anything for themselves. They were selfless and acted to change something bigger than themselves, and for the greater good. Now, the heroes are self serving and act only to server their goals. This was usually the traits of the vilains.
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
@@deceptivegaming6481Why do you think that the Rebellion would have failed if led by Padme??? She proved herself very capable of taking on the role of defender and leader many times!!! I mean did we watch the same video?? Because he very clearly explains everything that proves Padme to be a strong and wise leader!!!! Shame that you still don't fully understand why Padme is one of the most important key characters in Star Wars!!!!
To be honest, I was never much of a fan of Padme. And this stemmed from my belief that the Republic was beyond saving. And when I saw Karl Fritz, the 145th King of Eldia, in Attack on Titan and heard of what he did to his own people, it only made me not a fan of her even more because I believed that both Padme and Karl the Coward were so much alike, at least on the surface. And while I respected Padme for her stance for democracy and peace, she never gets the concept of war of survival. But then again, she had never been in a situation if peace proposal was rejected for the sake political intrigue before like how Shah Khosrow II rejected peace offer from Emperor Heraclius for the sake of his plan to put his brother-in-law, Theodosius, son of the late Emperor Maurice, on the throne in Constantinople and make the Roman Empire his own client state with a controllable puppet at all. And so, war becomes inevitable. But to do that, Emperor Heraclius was forced to squeeze every single coin out from the treasury to pay for his troops and their equipment. In other words, Padme never encountered people that cannot be reasoned with until the end of the Clones Wars and literally have no idea of a concept of war of survival. However, this video proven me otherwise. At least, when it comes to comparing Padme with Karl Fritz, of course. Because it turned out that they were not alike at all deep down. Why? Because according to this video, it convinced me that there is no heck way in like forever that Padme is ever going to put her people through the great suffering like how Karl Fritz subjected his own people to Marley's tortures or imprisoning them inside the Walls after robbed them of their history and memories. And due to her being the major contributor of laying the groundwork for the Rebels Alliance, I believed she may have come to understand the concept of war of survival in the end when the Empire rose to power. However, I still believed that the Republic is beyond saving, should be just limited to the Core Worlds and that it will be the best for the galaxy if a number of multicultural and multinational states, the Republic included, are running the galaxy.
38:13 It is ironic how when you think about it the only person who in alternative timeline (if existed) could prove that in this ONE instance Sidious was right (power = right to rule) was if Anakin’s became evil and had a Full Potential/ Bacame a God of the Force/Unstoppable. But in our story… yes… Padme was right (democracy had won in the end above Palpatine’s beliefs of superiority of power).
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
What did you mean about Padme’s choice in men? She “chose” a brave, kind, smart, and SUPER FUCKING SEXY man. That he became Vader is not her fault. I don’t even think it’s Anakin’s fault. He lost literally everyone and everything he loved: his mother, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Padme, his child (they didn’t know she was having twins), his way of life (Jedi order). He’d seen too much of war, had Palpy feeding him lies, and yes, his own actions caused a lot of his suffering, I’d say he actually had severe PTSD. I think Anakin just couldn’t handle it anymore after the Jedi temple events and went “undercover” in his own mind. That’s when Vader took over. Once Padme died, I don’t think Anakin could bring himself out of his hidden space. Too much trauma, too much loss. Add to that, on the rare occasions he did start to come to the fore, he’d be thinking about Padme, and the things he did that actually caused some of his problems. No wonder nothing touched him until Anakin found out about Luke. I think that’s when Anakin began the slow journey back to the Light. Then, seeing Palpy torturing his son (Padme’s son) about to die, Anakin “killed” Vader and saved Luke.
If Ultra Vegito the God Killer has a second season and it includes the titular God Killer going to the SWVerse (possibly during ROTS), I hope your words do not age poorly should the God Killer hakai or absorb Anakin because Vegito might see his behavior as that of a God and Gods sicken him big time. In fact Vegito would even also kill Padme for clapping "divine cheeks".
Ahsoka possibly believes in Tales of the Jedi that the reason why Padme's relationship with Anakin has gone to shit is also on Ahsoka partially for never doing anything to begin with. What was Ahsoka meant to do tho??
Her political stance during the war was absurd. Republic armies were getting overrun, systems put under Separatist occupation, and Padme was making speeches saying that more armaments would only prolong the war. Did she think Dooku the Sith Lord would simply stop if the Republic ran out of clones? I wonder how those clones on Ryloth felt when Amidala was telling the Republic that reinforcements weren't needed?
It's kinda her fault I root for people who are politics haters. Not the Jedi tho. I'm talking about Ultra Vegito the God Killer. Because he would set most of SW on fire literally to prove that Gods are everywhere and unfit to live. Sith, Jedi, politicians, Trade Federadtion, etc. I wanna see what happens if even Padme joins such bodycount at the hands of the God Killer
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Padmé does deserve more praise and love in the fandom. It’s good that we are starting to see that.
Do you think that maybe the original script of Padme almost killing Vader deserved to be scrapped tho? Because with such a scrapped idea the fandom was more hostile to Padme than usual
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@@indiramartinezmorales7674 Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
It's a shame Luke remembers very little about Padme. I'm sure she'd be proud of the man her son became when he redeemed Anakin against all odds.
That's what I've been thinking. She's done so much to protect democracy, yet her own children don't know much about her.
@@PikaJayMason And her children inherited so much from her, which is even more tragic.
Leia followed in her mother's footsteps and opposed authoritarianism. Luke eventually came to awaken the heart of gold and compassion Padme had in life by the time of Return of the Jedi.
Indeed
She was probably proud of Anakin, too, in the end. Better late than never, right?
Padmé's heart and kindness makes her as much of a Jedi as her Husband and Son are. Same with her mother-in-law Shmi. They both would be so proud of their son and grandson respectively.
Padme is a good role model she's very smart she was compassionate to the very end she sure has a strong willed spirit and strong convictions.
Padme has always been one of my personal favorite characters in Star Wars. She may not have had the force but she still served it as much as any Jedi. I think we could all agree that if she did have the force she would have been one of the greatest Jedi that ever lived
Yes, she would have been Palpatine's true equal, and it would have made that ideological tug-of-war between them even more dramatic.
didn‘t Yoda say the force is Strong in her?
@@adaradavina7450 I'm pretty sure he said that about Leia not Padme. Plus I think what your referring to is a line that was later scrapped and not used. Padme was confirmed to be non force sensitive everything surrounding Padme having the force is all fan theory
@@Voltage256 i could swear its a Scene in the Phantom menace
@adaradavina7450 I just looked it up and it says that it was a scrapped scene plus I recently rewarched Phantom menace and don't recall Yoda saying that at all
2:02 let me stop you right there: Padmé is very involved from the beginning of the film; she’s just ‘young and naive’ as Sidious said and is a clear pacifist. When her communications were cut she refused to mobilize more than her security forces to avoid a war, but an invasion was put on her/her people whether she wanted war or not. To call her a chess piece not used until the end is a disservice to her character. She also surprised Palpatine by returning to Naboo, created an alliance with the Gungans (after noting what Jar Jar said on Coruscant), was a capable warrior in her own right, trusted Qui Gon even against her better judgement, and utilized her decoys efficiently. She was the opposite of Palpatine: someone genuinely trying to better as many people as possible with no selfish desires (and that’s how she was manipulated into casting a vote of no confidence for one of the few supporters she had). She’s only selfish when it came to her love for Anakin, and that was after she thought the Republic was lost and their best chance to live any sort of life of peace was to run away and hide
Striving to see the good and potential in anyone, no matter who they are. Even in her enemies or in those who wronged or disappointed her; the Seperatists (even Gunray included), Rush Clovis, Anakin...Padme even tried to see it in Palpatine, until he showed completely who he was.
It's this quality of unconditional compassion that made her an incredible heroine. And in passing it on to Luke, she helped to bring Anakin back to the light.
Padme is rightly honoured here. Thank you.
I strive to be this everyday.
Really, she did defeat Sidious in the end and save her husband from himself... through her son.
The name Padme seems to be derived from the Sanskrit name Padma, which means lotus. The lotus is a symbol of purity and regeneration.
Palpatine's first name is Sheev, taken from Shiva, the God of destruction.
Lucas even named them as opposites, the light and dark sides of Anakins psyche.
That would make a lot of sense. Many names in star wars are real words in other language than english, but slightly different. I recognised a few french, german, and russian words as well. But what you said is certainly accurate. I'm sure it's the reason why these names were chosen.
I thought Palpy's first name wasn't decided on until the Disney buyout.
Anakin, “When I am with you, I can’t breathe.”
Padme, “Oh, you can’t breathe? Try wearing this dress?”
Anakin, “What?”
Padme, “What?”
I imagine that conversation happened a few times in moments not critical enough to be included in the shows.
Between Padmé, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, R2, and Rex, Anakin surrounded himself with some of the best people in the galaxy...
...and the single worst.
Well, ain't that the truth..
Anakin is the shadow in the starlight
Worst meaning The Emperor
A nice birthday gift for Natalie Portman.
Happy Birthday Natalie Portman 👍
Age?
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@@desperado8605 Thanks and nice.
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Padme was the mother of the rebellion, in more ways than one. Not only in her political actions serving as the foundation of the rebellion's ideology, but also because her children became two of its biggest hero. I wish George had focused on her more in the films and I wish we would have seen Leia elected Chancellor in the sequels, as Padme should have been Chancellor herself.
Me too, Padme is as central to this story as Qui Gon was. Luke inherited Anakin’s spirit, but he also inherited Padme’s heart.
It's a crime that most of her scenes in ROTS, especially the Delegation 200, were cut out by Lucas because it would have shown her being a part of the early rebellion and passing it on to her children.
Padme has always been one of my favorite characters!
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Natalie Portman did an amazing job playing the character Padme Amidala!
Rumour has it natily portman reprising the role for asoka season 2 and that's just the beginning
@@damo6134 I think she needs her own series I wish we had more series set during the prequels!
I prefer Keira Knightley
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@@damo6134This sounds too good to be true. I hope you’re right
Pat: "As Darth Sidious hurtled down a reactor shaft on the second Death Star--"
Me: He reflected on his life. "Do you ever have one of those moments when you think, 'How the hell did I get here?' "
Padme Amidala Naberrie Skywalker will always be an inspiration and not only one of my favorite characters in tv history, but one of the best characters to come of of Star Wars ❤❤❤
That's often the problem with making female characters little more than the love interest, their actual character suffers as they only have any real meaning when it relates to the man in their life. I'm so happy the Clone Wars actually did so much more with her character.
I agree. A Love-plot should be secondary, and that could perhaps make it even more rewarding for the reader/viewer.
Timothy Zahn did a great job with his take on Padme for Thrawn: Alliances, which made her critical to the story. He made Thrawn appreciate how much Padme showed how great Anakin was as a warrior and a good man despite his fears
@@SolidAvenger1290 I've not read it, though from what you've mentioned there it still sounds as though her importance is only tied to Anakin and not really about her.
@brydon5721 not physically, of course at specific times, but spirituality/faithful to Anakin's ability to get through anything. The ending of the book shows how great Padme is as a character, and Thrawn understood that Padme was truly Anakin's better half with her determination to see things through.
In Legends continuity, she was probably an even bigger hero than this video suggests: the prequel-cognizant junior novelization of ROTJ heavily implies that, watching Luke suffer under Palpatine's wrath, the memory of Padme and her love broke through to him, and it was in defense of HER son that Anakin Skywalker overcame Darth Vader.
She would have been the Republic's most beloved Chancellor if she was alive
I wish we would have seen more of Leia's bond to her. We see Luke and Anakin's bond but not Padme and Leia's💔😭
Padme has always, ALWAYS been my favorite Star Wars character since I saw Episode 1 as a little girl. She is by far the smartest Star Wars character (other than Thrawn), and the most badass.
Top Class Video guys! I really agree that Padmé is such an important character in Star Wars- she defeated Palpatine, and all without a lightsaber or the Force- simply put, she had the power of her words, her ideals, and ultimately who she was.
She was literally the mother of the Rebellion and Leia and Luke helped it grow. She would have been proud of them. 😎🙂😀
She has been one of my inspirations for pursuing a Political Science major. I believe we will need more like her in the coming years.
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 They both definitely could have benefitted from marriage counseling. Another thing I will knock her for is the fact that she knew an Anakin had these darker tendencies ever since he bluntly admitted to murdering the Tuskans, including the women and children. Yet, she didn't even bat an eye at it. Weather it was because she was so in love with him, she turned a blind eye or she felt he was at least partially justified, I cannot say. She also knew he had those nightmares before and they were real, so she can also be faulted for not taking them seriously enough to maybe warn the Jedi or at least Obi Wan. As for the whole Clovis thing, it was pretty apparent that they were both using each other for their own ends so I won't count it as cheating, though not cluing Anakin in on it was still bad because she knew he wouldn't take it well. BUT, even with all that in mind, she did NOT deserve what happened to her. Watching the love of your life, the father of your children, turn into a monster that would slaughter children and betray everything he stood for because he was twisted and manipulated, and then attempt to kill you because he thought you were turning on him. I would never wish that on anyone, even if they were a legitimate two timer.
@@darknessoftruth9314 Unfortunately, one particular antihero called God Killer Vegito (who seemingly will never again believe in second chances because of the Gods) would call Padme a deadweight wimp for falling in love with alledgedly a man who secretly uses the force to make her lover by force (no pun intended). And Vegito would unhestitantly either kill Anakin right away or slowly torture him alive for minutes for the sake of proving his point that Anakin is a God who secretly uses Padme for his goals and a God's mere existence is a big no no by God Killer Logic. So yeah. Even if Padme's fate in ROTS was very cruel and unfair, all antiheroes who're way too selective with second chances have other things in mind
@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 It sounds like he is a sociopath who needs just as much therapy as Anakin. It also shows that he has no understanding of the basic nature of Star Wars, and I dare say reality in general.
@@darknessoftruth9314 And spoilers for Ultra Vegito Season 2: He will end up worse than Vader because of each Demon Emperor he absorbs. Worse than even...... Lucif. I hope you like this manga made by CALLMEARJ. It's as badass as Dragon Ball Kakumei. Tonight we have also another new UV Episode.
Padme is honestly increadibly underated. She's one of my top fav characters from SW
I live near the ocean, and one of my favorite pastimes is going out onto the beach to see what the waves have brought to shore. Mostly, its seashells, driftwood and seaweed. But rarely, it's the corpses of dead sea creatures. Oftentimes, it's impossible to tell what the creature was in life due to the decay and scavenging. The Republic, in many ways, was like the rotten carcasses i see wash up on shore; so rancid and decayed you cant even guess what it was like in life. Many of the senators of the Republic are like the carrion beasts that peck and tear at the remains, desperately trying to gain some advantage. In all honesty, Padme is a tragic figure, because the Republic and ideals she so loved had died long before the first shot of the Clone Wars was fired on Geonosis.
That's a pretty good analogy.
Although, I personally feel the Republic wasn't dead before the Clone Wars. It was severely damaged and injured for sure, but it still could have been saved. For me, it didn't fully become a full corpse until sometime during the Outer Rim Sieges, which was when it was beyond saving.
Terrific video, truly.
But it makes me question all the more Padme's death. She doesn't seem the type of woman to lay down and die of a broken heart. I wish they'd given her a true cause of death; internal injury from Anakin's attack, something other than "woe is me, my man hurt me, I must die now". She survived what was essentially betrayal by the Old Republic as it showed itself to be corrupt and irredeemable. She survived the reworking of her world view and hugely changing circumstances. She even maintained there was "good in him" to the end. This is NOT a woman who would give up living without physical cause.
Ok yes I agree with you on the idea that Padme wasn't the type of woman to simply lay down and die from a broken heart...
From what I believe Padme died because Palpatine needed to use her "lifeforce" to bring Darth Vader to life... in essence; "a life for a life" ....Because at the end of Episode 3 that's when Annakin essentially dies and Darth Vader comes to life....and the only reason he does is because Padme dies after giving birth to Leia & Luke .....Palpatine orchestrated this all.....in my opinion....
He knew that eventually Padme's ideology would crush him and his ego and his beliefs....Palpatine used Annakin to take Padme off the chess board...so to speak.....a way of eliminating his biggest threat...and by Palpatine telling Anakin that Padme had betrayed him...well you knew then that Padme wouldn't live long....
Which is something that I don't agree with!! I have never liked the fact that Padme was killed!!
Just my opinion..
Sorry I wrote so much but I wanted to explain everything so you could understand what I mean....
An amazing video, just like all other character explanation videos. If only the movies were able to portray the characters with such accuracy
if people were willing and able to spend all day at the movie theater and or at home
because they'd have to be almost 24 hours long
TV shows can do that with more story detail but movies have better piture quality
@@quantemwensday Bull Shirts!! A well written script can, and often will go further with giving a character "depth", than almost any amount of "swashbuckling adventure" really ever could!!
@@frenzalrhomb6919 okay boomer
obviously didn't understand what I said because you're a boomer
doesn't matter how well written the script is
time is limited that can be bad because we'd get a lot of unimportant boring stuff in-between important main story stuff
but unfortunately good things do get removed for various reasons
coomer phegg it
@@quantemwensday I just can't seem to defy, nor define logic as sound as your own, so tight is that logic, that it bares no small resemblance to a sub-aquatic rectal sphincter ... and that shits damn watertight!!
A shame luke and leia never met padmé or her side of their family or most of them.
I could picture the looks on padmé's parents if they found out they had grandchildren who helped save the galaxy and carried on her legacy.
I could see them telling luke and leia stories about their mom and what she did for the said galaxy.
That would’ve been nice, and very heartwarming for Luke and Leia to meet their mother’s family, and to learn about her.
@@jmwilliamsart a lot of story potential there.
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Reminds of that story where she ended up being frozen in carbonite to stop her from dying right after childbirth and was found by her daughter shortly after the end of the war…
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@@bkjeong4302Seriously? What story is this from? I love Star Wars and I have tried to read as many books about the lore and legends of some of the characters....
I have never ever heard of that particular story!!! 😮
Could you please steer me in the right direction to be able to read more about it???
Such a good analysis. Padme is one of the best characters in the franchise
Finally, the respect and acknowledgment Padme Amidala deserved ❤ Thank you
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
Ever since I was a child padme has been a role model for me. She served her duty but she still allowed herself to love. She truly deserved better.
I never hated Padme, but I lover her more now
I really enjoyed this breakdown. It's very detailed, well written, shows the true reach of the effect of her beliefs and actions, and is very respectful to her character. Very well done on this video😊🙏.
Wow. You know, I knew Padme was important but I never fully appreciated her importance until I saw this video. Thanks a lot.
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
Remember when Anakin as a kid asked Padme if she was an Angel? She chukled at Anakin bare Child innocence..except here Anakin might have let his jedi like intuition speak loud, as it was clear to him.
I beleive she is even thought she does not know or have been trained in Jedi ways to discover her true self.
You just made me appreciate Padme a lot more!
This video has enhanced my adoration of the politics of Star Wars. From steadfast, good characters like Padme, the odyssey of Star Wars becomes more poetic. From 2 opposing individuals of alike characteristics but different personalities that dualed in words rather than swords & blasters, we are gifted another poetic reminder from George Lucas about the death of democracy & rise/danger of Authority.
Great mini-doc, loved it. Great video.
& happy [very ._.] late Natalie Portman birthday.
Despite having been used as the means to allow Sidious ascension to the chancellorship, Padme for the rest of her life, was his main political opponent and thorn in his side when it came to his plans to creating an empire our of the republic, slowing down and frustrating his plans at every turn.
Plus even after her death, her love and devotion to democracy having nurtured the foundations of the rebellion before it, lit the flame for its return twenty years later as well as in shape of her children provided two of the most critical leaders and forces that would ensure the downfall of sidious and his empire.
Indeed, Padme’s legacy would carry on in the Rebellion, and in her two children Luke and Leia. Palpatine might have won the battle, but in the long run Padme won the war. Luke may have inherited Anakin’s spirit, but he also inherited Padme’s heart, and that’s how he was able to reach out to Anakin.
@@jmwilliamsart Truer words were never spoken and yes Luke having his mother's heart and belief that there is still good in his father, is the driving force that helps Vader be brought back from the dark side and kill Sidious.
Prequel trio:
Obi Wan: leader
Anakin: mechanic, duelist, pilot, strategist, rescuer, knight
Padme: SAD
I wouldn't exactly say she was overshadowed by the other main characters. Could very well be just me but growing up with the prequels and somewhat the Clone Wars her character had a pretty sizable impact on me. She was a damn good moral contrast to a corrupt senate. She was a strong and independent minded female character that still was able to embrace her femininity. I've heard some people claim she was a weak female character who was plagued by George's "patriarchal viewpoints" but I could never see it. She stood on her own very well to me. She was that moral lens you could view the politics of the Republic through. Take her out of the movies and the corruption could easily fly right over your head. Maybe it's just me but that's how I've always viewed it.
These feminist also wished she was as bloodthirsty as Gohan used to be. The very early draft that ROTS was gonna have until Lucas went against that idea
I always knew she was a hero but I never considered how her legacy defeated Palpatine. Thank you for this
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
It seems to me that both Padme and Anakin had to grow up faster than many of their peers. Padme after the experience in the refugee relief movement, and Anakin had a miserable life as a slave, and being in the Jedi temple.
God I love these character videos and hope more are to come in the future!
Padme is one of star wars most important characters
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Even though Lucas limited Natalie's time on-screen, Padme is still an epic character, and one of my favorites in the saga. She was smart, brave, wise, selfless, playful, loving, and merciful...and yet her heart was so vulnerable for the weak that Sidious took full advantage of it. He knew that if Anakin were pushed to his breaking point, he would even turn against the woman he loved out of desperation...which is exactly what happened.
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
Padme lived on though luke and leia and luke may have look like anakin but like his mother he truly believed anakin could be redeem i am just sad that they barely know anything about padme
Maybe Anakin in World between worlds can tell Luke and/or Leia about Padme. 🙂
What a beautifully told story of Padme!
5:07 Beautiful writing here
Do you think Bail Organa had Leia study Padme's work on Naboo and the Senate to show her the way forward that her mother would have wanted?
I wouldn't doubt it. Maybe this was his way of letting her get to know her mother without telling her.
The beauty and idealism of youth . What could've become of Padme if allowed to live into old age and pragmatism.
That quote padme's father said makes her family almost sound like the Waynes, Batman's family
Can you even imagine a character like padme in the Warhammer 40k universe that shit would be like opposite day
Padme played her part in the chosen one prophecy and was ultimately forfiling his destiny when turned to the darkside he was always going to turn back eventually no one realised it George lucus confirmed all of this
What I want to know is how the Separatists became the villains they are. Yes, Dooku and Palpatine originally intended for the CIS to be an enemy that makes the Republic become the Empire, but it was only at the end of the Separatist Crisis that both the Separatist Council and Separatist Military were formed. Even if there were senators on the council, there’s no real indication of the Separatist Parliament having any influence on the council. What the hell kept the Separatists from being like the Rebel Alliance or the New Republic? From what it looks like in Canon, the parliament had no true say over the military while the Republic Senate and the Jedi Order had true control, though of course that control is wiped out with the near-extinction of the Jedi and the Senate surrendering nearly all of its power to Palpatine by the end of the war. But with the CIS, it sometimes seems like an early version of the Empire.
First comes the powerless legislature. The Bad Batch does show that the Imperial Senate wasn’t completely powerless at first and that Palpatine still had to pull the same moves he did as chancellor. Sometime between the Bad Batch and Andor though, the Senate’s only purpose is to legitimize Palpatine’s rule to the point that there was probably no disruption when the Senate was finally dissolved and completely replaced by the sector governors who already had plenty of power since the Outer Rim Sieges. In the Separatist Alliance, the parliament isn’t completely powerless as it can still make peace with the Republic and would have taken issue with Dooku illegally taking over the banks, but it seems the parliament had no say on military matters. The Separatist Council robbed worlds of money like on Ryloth and imprisoned whole populations as a labor force like on Mon Cala. Dooku even ordered a genocide of a whole planet in the last year of the war in Canon and won a humanitarian award shortly afterwards. What was with this complete separation of power where the parliament handles domestic issues while the council ran the war effort? My best guess in favor of the good Separatists is that they thought Dooku kept the council on a leash.
Second comes the evils of the military itself. The Droid Army and Navy were run by horrible and corrupt people, just like the Imperial Military. The only difference is most of these leaders were corporate businessmen in the Separatists and mostly actual military men in the Empire. And yet we get similar outcomes. Armies completely taking over planets and their governments. The Republic of course was not perfect. Many of the first Imperial officers were of course members in the Republic military, which was what elevated them to their Imperial positions. Tarkin in Canon killed thousands of people on a planet just nine months after the war began. There was torture as well. And even after Tarkin left, the following siege wrecked the planet’s environment. Part of me wonders if Palpatine covered up Tarkin’s crimes so he could keep him around. No doubt the Jedi Order would raise hell over what Tarkin did if they knew. Another thing of course is that while the Separatists started the Death Star Project, it was the Republic that kept it going after the Second Battle of Geonosis till the end of the war. Part of me wonders if that is why the Republic only had the Electro-Proton Bomb as a superweapon in Canon. The Death Star must have taken up all the secret superweapon funds the Republic had. Still the Separatists churned out plenty of superweapons just like the Empire, weapons that were needlessly cruel. I won’t include the Subjugator Warship because that seems like a humane and useful weapon, but the Defoliator and the Blue Shadow Virus are definitely brought up in mind. One wiped out all organic material and another could infect and kill every living being. Both were nearly mass produced and deployed all over the galaxy.
Finally, the dictator leader. Even the Rebel Alliance had an actual council, even if it led to democratic gridlock like just before Scarif. To be fair like Palpatine, Dooku has to play nice in public. Yet in the Republic, Palpatine never seemed to do any actual commanding or strategy during the war, leaving it up to the Jedi and only checking in for updates while Dooku did actually directly command the military. From the looks of it, Dooku is the only person outside the Separatist Council that gets involved in military matters while in the Republic, senators could pull rank on the Jedi and their clone troopers.
Now seriously, what is with this? True, they were also at war just like the Republic, but in the case of the Republic, the transition to Empire took most of not the whole war while in the CIS, it seems Val most instant after the war began. It’s almost like the Separatist Parliament and citizens just left the whole war effort to Dooku and the Separatist Military despite the latter being made up by the very corporations that caused trouble for decades. Why is it the Separatists couldn’t turn out like the Rebel Alliance? It’s basically like the Republic was a good guy version of the Empire and the Separatists were a bad guy version of the Rebels. If the Empire is a cautionary tale about the Republic, are the Separatists a cautionary tale about that what the Rebels could have become?
You could say Padmè was the Force to Palpatine’s Dark Side. As the Force will always balance itself out by purging the Dark Side of it’s power, so she (implicitly through Luke and Leia) balanced galactic affairs by bereaving him of his power.
I love this!
He may have removed the thorn, be he didn't clean the wound.
Padme has always been, and always will be, my favorite Star Wars character. She in incredible! Same can be said for Natalie Portman. She is a wonderful person and was the best choice for the role of Padme. I would love to see a live action series of her time as queen. Natalie has barely aged, it would be amazing.
Disney star wars creators/writers and execs need to watch this and stop trying to erase her/ ignore her in the cannon. My girl may not have been a force users but she was an incredible women.
Won't be surprised if Disney all this time did the most unthinkable: make the universe hate and forget Padme for the rise of Darth Vader. Meaning the fear of being forgotten bigger than death in Batman Arkham Knight now thrown in the SWVerse
wait just curious why do you think they're trying to ignore her? in the past few years, she's had a trilogy of books about her, a pretty heavy plotline in the comics based on her legacy (and her handmaidens), some ties like Panaka recognizing Padme's influence in Leia, she had multiple episodes about her in Forces of Destiny, and she was in TCW season 7. I don't think Lucasfilm is really trying to ignore her, she just doesn't have a lot of screen potential left so they end up exploring her character in other media instead
Padme should get her own movie.
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I love padme! Such an amazing and underappreciated character!
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Damn… this was an amazing video.
I never realized Padime’s story before this. Thank you 🙏
Padme was a bad ass smoke show , and I believe that only Natalie Portman could have portraid her correctly.
Natalie Portman is perfect 🔥🥰💥🤗😍🥳
Easily my favorite character out of the prequels.
I love the video man. I’m a big fan of Padme.
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
I have to say that it was pretty clear that the Seps had been planning a war long before the Republic even considered remaking their own army. They had millions of battle droids by the time of Geonosis and that doesn't just happen overnight, even with massive factories, you need a LOT of logistics in place to make that kind of an army, and it would've needed to have taken years to get the ball rolling, even with the backing of the Corporate Alliance.
Very cool stuff!
She almost reminds me of Queen Esther from The Bible, strong, beautiful, independent, and humble
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Anyone else think that Padmé would've been an excellent Jedi if she was Force sensitive? Not in terms of power, but in terms of ideology.
Episode 2 has a cut scene of her in the Senate arguing against the war bill that shouldn't have been cut. We didn’t get to see what she actually does as a senator in the films. Padme needed more of a role on her own in episode 2 and 3 but her scenes were cut. She started the rebellion but we didn't see it.
The thing that always makes me chuckle though is her whole "I want to save and help people and wish to be a pacifist so I'm gonna marry this guy that I've realistically known for about a week and who confessed to slaughtering a village including the children/babies." I like Padme I think she's an interesting character but that one moment really messes with her character really makes her seem hypocritical, especially for someone who espouses the views she does.
If I have to translate it on Beerus language she failed to protect the galaxy because of her own leniency. Portman's character might have unknowingly tributed the unecessary compassion of Son Goku big time
Padme is my favorite character and yeah that scene threw me off so bad my brain now skips over it like it never happened, and i have to remind myself it did
@@picklepop23 This is why a what if named Padme rejects Anakin in AOTC should have come to pass in the actual canon
This is one of the things that frustrated GL. IIRC, he'd voiced his frustration with not being able to flesh out her character more. So he gave it to the book authors and TCW to express her catalytic and pivotal role. The Prequels showed some of it, but, since a lot of the effects she had on Palpatine's defeat came across as hinging on her relationship with Anakin, she got overshadowed.
Her advice to Bail shows that she would have beaten him two ways instead of three if she wasn't married to Ani. In fact, I believe that she would have lived long enough to see it through if he hadn't choked her. And THAT happened because Ben stowed away and unintentionally pushed Ani over the edge. 🤦♂️
It may have taken 20 years either way, but, with her, leah, and her allies, the Republic could have been restored directly into a new Golden Age, rather than the feeble New Republic we got. Meanwhile, Anakin and Luke would have made the Reformed Jedi together as father and son. Orange and purple lightsabers in equal measure with the white, blue, and green.
And Anakin could unlock his true potential by being true balance instead of only Jedi. In this regard Palpatine was right. Anakin’s should look for large view of the Force (dark side with light side). He is the only one who can be (Chosen One) pure balance. 🙂🤍🖤
Well done. Fantastic video and presentation
This has confirmed my sincere admiration of Padme Armidhalls. Thank you ❤🌹
If I had infinite money I'd wanna direct a remake of the star wars movies. With more focus on how strong the characters realy are. I adore these character analasys
St Padmé of Naboo, holy Saint of the galactic orthodox church
As Wrecker said she can negotiate with me anytime
Potentially wouldn't have ended well either, but imagine Anakin if he had known Sidious wanted Padme dead........
He kills almost everyone on both sides and we get Emperor Skywalker, possibly with his (probably now-former) wife leading the rebellion against him?
Timely, considering whose birthday it is today (alongside a certain independence day).
A pity Legends, for once in a while (face it, a continuity that has spawned the likes of The Crystal Star, the Denning-verse, and The Old Republic MMO shouldn't be deemed as a flawless godlike entity; if every porkchop were perfect, we wouldn't have hotdogs), did such an important character dirty, all while I'm still debating if Grey DeLisle-Griffin (her Clone Wars 2003 voice actress, among other works) or Catherine Taber (The Clone Wars 2008 VA) is the definitive animated Padme voice. Thoughts?
Wow PADME'S Character is extremely deep. Lucas you rule 😮
That was an amazing video essay
🥀You did a wonderful job.🥀
The analyzes of characters like Padmé are always interesting.
As a fan of Star Wars since the "prequels era", I enjoyed every quote and reference, and not just because Padmé and Palpatine are my two favorite characters from the saga, but also because they are the embodiment of opposites of each other.🥀
Padmé is a fantasy character very dear to me, I see her a lot and often notice a certain indifference towards her, and your analysis has given me a further positive point of view that I had never thought about, and in fact yes, it is It was Padmé, her ideals and legacy that brought democracy back to the galaxy far, far away.🥀
According to the purest source of canon we have - dialogue from the original trilogy - Padme should have lived longer than the day of her birth. That is, unless George wanted us to believe Leia could remember her mother from the day she was born. Massive Padme plot hole #1.
Plot Hole #2 is big enough to fly a Star Destroyer through. It's that Palpatine told Vader that Padmen had died before she gave birth to the children, from his force choke. 19 years later, Vader ought to have been utterly pissed at Palpatine. See search terms: 'Auralnauts Reimagined' and check out 'A New Hope Reimagined' and 'Empire Strikes Back Reimagined'. Return of the Jedi got some treatment too, but it's mostly playing episodes 7-9 and Mandalorian for laughs.
the crux point between prequels and originals was her death, but someone like padme just "losing their will to live" when she still has responsibilities, especially two newborn ones... that never made sense to me.
i realize she was doomed by the narrative there but still.
That's the difference between the new character and the old one, old ones didn't do anything for themselves. They were selfless and acted to change something bigger than themselves, and for the greater good. Now, the heroes are self serving and act only to server their goals. This was usually the traits of the vilains.
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
Very nice video.
I often imagine what would have happened if Padme lived and led the rebellion.
Rebellion would have failed sadly she didn't have the war leadership skills needed to fight the Empire
@@deceptivegaming6481Why do you think that the Rebellion would have failed if led by Padme???
She proved herself very capable of taking on the role of defender and leader many times!!!
I mean did we watch the same video?? Because he very clearly explains everything that proves Padme to be a strong and wise leader!!!!
Shame that you still don't fully understand why Padme is one of the most important key characters in Star Wars!!!!
@@OrbitFallenAngelBut Padme would send everything to shit by never thinking about killing or capturing Vader
I do wonder if she really died purely from childbirth or from a lost Sith art or alchemy used by Sidious.
A combination of all of them perhaps.
To be honest, I was never much of a fan of Padme. And this stemmed from my belief that the Republic was beyond saving. And when I saw Karl Fritz, the 145th King of Eldia, in Attack on Titan and heard of what he did to his own people, it only made me not a fan of her even more because I believed that both Padme and Karl the Coward were so much alike, at least on the surface. And while I respected Padme for her stance for democracy and peace, she never gets the concept of war of survival. But then again, she had never been in a situation if peace proposal was rejected for the sake political intrigue before like how Shah Khosrow II rejected peace offer from Emperor Heraclius for the sake of his plan to put his brother-in-law, Theodosius, son of the late Emperor Maurice, on the throne in Constantinople and make the Roman Empire his own client state with a controllable puppet at all. And so, war becomes inevitable. But to do that, Emperor Heraclius was forced to squeeze every single coin out from the treasury to pay for his troops and their equipment. In other words, Padme never encountered people that cannot be reasoned with until the end of the Clones Wars and literally have no idea of a concept of war of survival. However, this video proven me otherwise. At least, when it comes to comparing Padme with Karl Fritz, of course. Because it turned out that they were not alike at all deep down. Why? Because according to this video, it convinced me that there is no heck way in like forever that Padme is ever going to put her people through the great suffering like how Karl Fritz subjected his own people to Marley's tortures or imprisoning them inside the Walls after robbed them of their history and memories. And due to her being the major contributor of laying the groundwork for the Rebels Alliance, I believed she may have come to understand the concept of war of survival in the end when the Empire rose to power.
However, I still believed that the Republic is beyond saving, should be just limited to the Core Worlds and that it will be the best for the galaxy if a number of multicultural and multinational states, the Republic included, are running the galaxy.
I LOVE YOU PADMÉ
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38:13 It is ironic how when you think about it the only person who in alternative timeline (if existed) could prove that in this ONE instance Sidious was right (power = right to rule) was if Anakin’s became evil and had a Full Potential/ Bacame a God of the Force/Unstoppable.
But in our story… yes… Padme was right (democracy had won in the end above Palpatine’s beliefs of superiority of power).
Padme is to the republic/senate what Qui Gon was to Anakin, had she been the one in charge of or leading it, she could have saved the galaxy
Empress Padme?? Would be fun to see
Padme represented what's good and pure in the galaxy. She's the main source of Luke and Leia's goodness.
Serious question: what do you think about people who think her fate in ROTS was rightfully deserved after the Clovis events (Clone Wars)??? Not making you agree or disagree on those opinions. Just wanting to try and conclude that Anakin ain't the sole guy who deserved therapy. Maybe Padme should have sought therapy too
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The Republic tried to siphon money from social services for the defense budget
That sounds disturbingly familiar...
Padme: " I will never vote Palphatine, I only exist for the liberty salvation of the planets. I will simply serve never vote
Could you do a video on Thrawn?
Padmé saw the red flags in Anakin and went: I find those sexy.
As of today I watched one of the craziest what ifs: Padme rejects Anakin in AOTC. And guess what: nothing horrible happens to Ani as a result
I agree that Padmé is underappreciated, so thanks for making this video, but I think that dig at Anakin at the end was unnecessary.
I consider that dig a necessary evil for lacking the balls to seek therapy to the ends of the galaxy
What did you mean about Padme’s choice in men? She “chose” a brave, kind, smart, and SUPER FUCKING SEXY man. That he became Vader is not her fault. I don’t even think it’s Anakin’s fault. He lost literally everyone and everything he loved: his mother, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Padme, his child (they didn’t know she was having twins), his way of life (Jedi order). He’d seen too much of war, had Palpy feeding him lies, and yes, his own actions caused a lot of his suffering, I’d say he actually had severe PTSD.
I think Anakin just couldn’t handle it anymore after the Jedi temple events and went “undercover” in his own mind. That’s when Vader took over. Once Padme died, I don’t think Anakin could bring himself out of his hidden space. Too much trauma, too much loss. Add to that, on the rare occasions he did start to come to the fore, he’d be thinking about Padme, and the things he did that actually caused some of his problems. No wonder nothing touched him until Anakin found out about Luke. I think that’s when Anakin began the slow journey back to the Light. Then, seeing Palpy torturing his son (Padme’s son) about to die, Anakin “killed” Vader and saved Luke.
If Ultra Vegito the God Killer has a second season and it includes the titular God Killer going to the SWVerse (possibly during ROTS), I hope your words do not age poorly should the God Killer hakai or absorb Anakin because Vegito might see his behavior as that of a God and Gods sicken him big time. In fact Vegito would even also kill Padme for clapping "divine cheeks".
This is excellent ❤🌹
Padme is my favorite politician. The only politicians I like are her, and her circle of friends.
Ahsoka possibly believes in Tales of the Jedi that the reason why Padme's relationship with Anakin has gone to shit is also on Ahsoka partially for never doing anything to begin with. What was Ahsoka meant to do tho??
Her political stance during the war was absurd. Republic armies were getting overrun, systems put under Separatist occupation, and Padme was making speeches saying that more armaments would only prolong the war. Did she think Dooku the Sith Lord would simply stop if the Republic ran out of clones? I wonder how those clones on Ryloth felt when Amidala was telling the Republic that reinforcements weren't needed?
It's kinda her fault I root for people who are politics haters. Not the Jedi tho. I'm talking about Ultra Vegito the God Killer. Because he would set most of SW on fire literally to prove that Gods are everywhere and unfit to live. Sith, Jedi, politicians, Trade Federadtion, etc. I wanna see what happens if even Padme joins such bodycount at the hands of the God Killer