How did Ashkenazim become White-Eligible? (Jewish Communities of Color Part I)

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  • First lecture in the Jewish Communities of Color series, looking briefly at the archaeological and biblical suggestions of color and then focusing on recent DNA studies of medieval Jewish remains, and discussing how Ashkenazim became white-eligible. Delivered via Zoom to the Beth Jacob Congregation of Beverly Hills CA on November 30, 2022.
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  • @DrSmith-so2dl
    @DrSmith-so2dl Год назад +8

    What about European history books? They are very clear and accurate when describing what the people of the house of "judah" looked like when they were being persecuted in Spain and Portugal, and how they were sold as slaves into Africa.
    I presume that you are something like a scholar, to be more accurate, I would say that you're scholar - ish, and you're very careful not to show or say too much about truth in what you're teaching, in other words, you are dancing and giving half truths.

    • @m0ckingB1rd42
      @m0ckingB1rd42 Год назад +3

      ☝️Mr. Smith is an excellent example of a Judeophobe

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад

      Please go to the RUclips channel of *Ninety-three TV* Where he goes into all these descriptions.

  • @deansupreme92
    @deansupreme92 Год назад +6

    Also so called black peoples are different complexions of brown. I have family members with hazel and green eyes.

  • @yashabenyishrael120
    @yashabenyishrael120 Год назад +9

    Im Black ànd Im Jewish. Bless you for you are à blessing to this world ahk

    • @lanziemusic6739
      @lanziemusic6739 Год назад

      If you're black you are an Israelite, Jewish people are Gentiles

  • @yourthought2333
    @yourthought2333 Год назад +9

    ....And he will dwell in the tents of Shem....(Genesis 9:27)

  • @goblack2africa54
    @goblack2africa54 Год назад +9

    I think this is very dangerous for the attempt to insert at 32:40 these neighboring people marry into this small group of Jews. What color was the small group, what tribe did they belong to. I ask this question because it's misleading. The other point is you take a defense move in stating that Jews were shipped to Rome and were slaves. This is pure speculation and no known sources to corroborate your story. If you have any sources to provide I will greatly appreciate it. This is not to my knowledge found in history. I think your trying to debunk the Hebrew Israelite stands that Deuteronomy 28 specifies those being sent away in ships were referring to Africans Jews being they were sent in ships. I think many white jews are looking for answers when confronted with this passage and now out of nowhere they find a grave and want to position the jewish people as the people in the scripture.

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад +2

      Josephus and Munter both write of the Jews being taken to Egypt by ships, at that time the Jews were brought to Egypt because it was controlled by the Romans.
      Even at the Colloseum it explains that it was built by Jewish slaves, Josephus talks of how the Jews were paraded Before Titus in the Triumph. Where the tallest and handsomest Jews of over 17 were brought before Titus in Rome.

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад +2

      Again, both Josephus and Munter speak about the Jews brought to Egypt by ships in irons, and brought to 3 different slave markets because they could not be sold even for the price if a horse or donkey, I would be glad to show you where in their books,

    • @DevorahC
      @DevorahC 4 месяца назад

      ​@@rachelsamuel3328would love these resources.thanks

    • @DevorahC
      @DevorahC 4 месяца назад

      Why is the thought of Jews being slaves so impossible? Of course slaves after any war were taken.

  • @mch5887
    @mch5887 Год назад +5

    Numbers 12
    9. So the anger of the Lord was aroused against them, and He departed.
    10. And when the cloud departed from above the tabernacle, suddenly Miriam became leprous, (as white as snow). Then Aaron turned toward Miriam, and there she was, a leper.
    11. So Aaron said to Moses, “Oh, my lord! (Please do not lay this sin on us,) in which we have done foolishly and in which we have sinned.
    12. Please do not (let her be as one dead, whose flesh is half consumed) when he comes out of his mother’s womb!”

  • @moxiechacha1146
    @moxiechacha1146 Год назад +29

    Wonderful topic, thank you! It makes sense to me since I had my dna done and Sephardi and Ashkenazi are both present as well as some Italian dna! Wow!

    • @venessamaxwell8105
      @venessamaxwell8105 Год назад +1

      Italian makes much sense. Its so cool

    • @busterbiloxi3833
      @busterbiloxi3833 Год назад +2

      You're like most humans: mixed.

    • @tahliah6691
      @tahliah6691 Год назад +8

      @@busterbiloxi3833 most humans are not mixed… travel the world and you will see most people have never left their towns or villages ever whether they live in Africa Asia or Europe dna shows that a huge number are still 100% in dna

    • @muslimcrusader5987
      @muslimcrusader5987 Год назад +2

      @@tahliah6691 yup. Mixed people are minority even in multiracial countries.

    • @muslimcrusader5987
      @muslimcrusader5987 Год назад +1

      @@busterbiloxi3833 Most Humans are genetically homogeneous.

  • @iaindcosta
    @iaindcosta Год назад +4

    William Blake called Jews "black" though I don't think it was with necessarily negative connotations, more as a contrast to the English

  • @Alkelly-hh6rv
    @Alkelly-hh6rv Год назад +5

    The Talmud said ham is black, Shem is black and Japheth is white.
    I am black but beautiful. Their skin tone was black.
    The scriptures also says mixed race Israelites must not be accepted as an Israelite.
    Ezra 10 the Israelites who mixed with other nations had to leave both the foreign wives and their mixed children behind to appease god.
    Judaism is a religion.
    Being an Israelite is not a religion.
    No one can convert to an Israelite. Israelites are born of two Israelite parents.
    He is mixing up Hebrew edomites who mixed with the Romans and became one.
    Israelites are only allowed to marry within the twelve tribes.
    A million Israelites ran into Africa away from the Romans.

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад

      No, Mishnah said, that is ONE Rabbi's opinion printed for discussion, not a fact. When you don't understand what you are reading. Then you shouldn't comment on it.

  • @billzen
    @billzen Год назад +68

    As a Brooklyn-born Molecular Biologist, I am overjoyed with this magnificent synthesis of Jewish history and science. I cannot wait to bless my bookshelf with your forthcoming publications. Many thanks!

    • @ejay1726
      @ejay1726 Год назад

      What history. Their conversation, and the stealing of Israel with the help of the united nations.

    • @Frodojack
      @Frodojack Год назад +9

      @@ejay1726 Hmm... modern Israel didn't exist until 1948, so it couldn't have been stolen from anyone. It was a British protectorate before that, and Turkish territory before that, go back several hundred years before that and it was under the Romans. Go farther back in time to the previous state of Israel it was a Jewish (or Israeli) nation. So there is no time when it was stolen. Maybe you should complain about the Assyrians, Babylonians, Romans, Muslims and Turks who stole it from the previous occupants.

    • @devintaylor8702
      @devintaylor8702 Год назад +3

      I Love Israel 🇮🇱❤and all of the Jewish ✡People

    • @damonking76
      @damonking76 Год назад

      @@Frodojack IT NEVER WAS AN ITSREALIE[ BALFOUR AGREEMENT] NATION AT NO TIME IN TRUE-STORY VS HI$-$TORY!!! WE MUST STOP EQUATING CON-VERTING TO A REAL-LIE-IGION AS ETHNICITY!!! RESEARCH THIS CON-FU$$ION AND WHERE IT ALL CAME FROM!!! YOU WILL BE ENLIGHTENED

    • @Frodojack
      @Frodojack Год назад

      @@TwelveTribesForever You also have mental issues because that makes no sense at all.

  • @tahliah6691
    @tahliah6691 Год назад +5

    There are many ways of looking at the topic of focus…. I am a well seasoned traveller and have visited the Cairo museum and what people see on line is not what is in the museum itself… eg the pictures of the ancient Hebrews and other tribes in Egypt of the time is not what is depicted in the video… the Hebrews depicted are dark brown skinned …. Not light skinned… we must remember we are talking about one of the hottest places on the planet for people to work out in the sun at such extreme measures… even the hair from the wigs in the museum are Afro in origin…
    One thing I will say is that dna doesn’t lie… original Arabs were very dark skinned eg marsh Arabs were in most cases as dark as Africans…
    Kush was not Ethiopia Kush is what we today call Sudan… Ethiopia did exist then as a country only as a continent…. Maps from the 16th century and before show evidence of this ….
    We know that Europeans do not come from the region of today known as the Middle East (a misnomer) as this region is an extension of Africa known as Canaan….
    Dna shows that Ashkenazi Jews are of European decent eg from Eastern Europe as do Sephardic Jews…. As said Jews can be any colour … we also have to look at blending or passing … an Ashkenazi Jew can pass or blend into European or western society … Jews of colour cannot…
    Askenaz if part of modern day Germany not the same as the tribe mentioned in Genesis 10…as that tribe is under Japheth…
    Viewing photographs of Jews and Arabs as far back as the 18th century shows eg Arabs as being dark skinned not like the Arabs today… as we know that most Arabs from today are mixed with ottoman and some European dna …. Quite a mixed multitude…
    Skin colour doesn’t change over time unless it’s genetically altered by interrelationships…. Eg African people have maintained their skin colour and ethnicity since day dot with very little watering down unless slavery was involved … this is very common too in Asia and parts of Europe as dna highlights…
    We don’t see Africans or Asians or orientals or Europeans changing colour unless as mentioned above…
    Most ethnic communities didn’t move out of their villages or mix out as most of the world throughout the centuries are very tribal or fiercely tribal…
    Judaism today is matrilineal but according to Torah it has always been patrilineal…
    Also we mustn’t forget that if a group professing to be a Jew or a Hebrew believes in the NT or jesus then they are christians. Simple .
    I would love to hear peoples opinions on what I have stated and I always like to refer to Torah or Tanakh as a back up too…
    Interesting video

    • @jdm6613
      @jdm6613 Год назад

      @Tahliah, mate do you stream worship service? If so pls share the sight.

    • @tahliah6691
      @tahliah6691 Год назад

      @@jdm6613 sorry I don’t ….over the years whilst reading Torah and Tanakh I have found a lot of discrepancies in how Judaism is worshipped today…. Whether Conservative or Orthodox Judaism etc …. All the truth one needs in in Torah or Tanakh….eg Psalms 146 v 3 …. TMH states this for a reason as we will get lead astray Eg what stood out for me was the verse in Torah Exodus 12 v 38 where TMH spoke about the mixed multitude that left Mizrahim to go to the promised land…. I don’t know if you can private message me on RUclips I could share more Information with you ? The truth will always set us free and closer to TMH

    • @lanziemusic6739
      @lanziemusic6739 Год назад +2

      All of what you stated are facts!! I am white and I know the real Israelites are black!

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад

      Not true at all, the Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews are closely related to the Mizrahi Jews. They also have 70% Levantine DNA with about 30% of Southern European or Ancient Greco-Roman DNA. They show 50% of Canaanite DNA, after 2500 years of diaspora and the Canaanites were only living in Israel.

  • @anitanance5000
    @anitanance5000 Год назад +10

    We are Jews..you are Jewish..Two different Meaning

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад

      You are black and African and have nothing to do with Jews, Hebrews or Israelites.

  • @lakitawright6003
    @lakitawright6003 Год назад +36

    With regard to Moses, wife, her point of origin was given, meaning that she wasn’t Hebrew. However, if the Hebrews weren’t dark, then, when Miriam was cursed for speaking out against her brothers marriage to a Cushite woman, and she turned white, how can you turn white if you’re already white?

    • @mch5887
      @mch5887 Год назад +4

      Numbers 12
      9. So the anger of the Lord was aroused against them, and He departed.
      10. And when the cloud departed from above the tabernacle, suddenly Miriam became leprous, (as white as snow). Then Aaron turned toward Miriam, and there she was, a leper.
      11. So Aaron said to Moses, “Oh, my lord! (Please do not lay this sin on us,) in which we have done foolishly and in which we have sinned.
      12. Please do not (let her be as one dead, whose flesh is half consumed) when he comes out of his mother’s womb!”

    • @yanika388usa3
      @yanika388usa3 Год назад

      Probably cause They were tanner complexion and so during leprosy she became white as snow. Many white peoples are still way darker then the snow.

    • @mch5887
      @mch5887 Год назад +7

      @@yanika388usa3,
      Maybe because they looked like the rest of their bloodline of people.
      Job 30
      30. My skin is black upon me,
      Lamentations 4
      8. Now their faces are blacker than
      coal;
      Lamentations 5
      10. Our skin was black like an oven

    • @palermotrapani9067
      @palermotrapani9067 Год назад +6

      @@mch5887 I think Job 30 is using black for a metaphor for death and evil. sorry to burst your bubble. earlier in verse 26, yet when Looked for good, then evil came, when I expected light, then came darkness...my blackened skin falls away from me, the heat scorches my very frame.
      Lamentations 4:6-8 in context. In verse 6: The punishment of the daughter of my people is greater than the penalty of Sodom, which was overthrown in an instant without a turning hand. Verse 7 Brighter than snow were here princes whiter than milk, more ruddy than coral, more precious than sapphire. then verse 8 "Now their appearence is blacker than soot, they are unrecognized on the streets, their skin shrinks on their bones, as dry as wood.
      And for the record, I am now Jewish but find it interesting that many American sects are now telling the Ashkenazi Jewish people that they are not Jewish. I think the Rabbi here clearly showed that all Ashkenazi have as a founding population ties back to the Levant, which is where ancient Israel was.

    • @damonking76
      @damonking76 Год назад +2

      @@mch5887 *WASTED

  • @epicurius1
    @epicurius1 Год назад +8

    Something interesting is that we find an even earlier Jewish presence on the Rhine. There are two fourth century documents by Emperor Constantine, one giving the Jews of Cologne the right to serve in local government office, and the other, permission for Cologne to build a synagogue.

  • @devintaylor8702
    @devintaylor8702 Год назад +10

    I Love all of Israel 🇮🇱 I love all Jews ✡ Ashkenazi and Sephardic, Mizrahi Jews ✡ God Bless All of you all ABUNDANTLY!!!❤❤❤❤

  • @markregis6418
    @markregis6418 Год назад +2

    @Rabbi Henry Abramson - I like this lecture but you omitted a lot of renditions that the Egyptians made of the Hebrews living in Avaris vs. Goshen that Jews write of in the bible. In the renditions that the Egyptians made, the Hebrews look just like the Egyptians and were not distinguishable. Second, the bible mentions that there were numerous Nubian tribes that traveled out of Egypt with the Hebrews. Third, if the Jews were slaves in Egypt which they were not then the slave offspring would begin to take on the characteristics of the slave masters due to intermarriage and physical assimilation. I am not a Hebrew Israelite but I am a Civil Engineer and a historian myself. The Ashkenazi has promulgated that the indigenous Hebrews who left Egypt were White and so were the Egyptians. They've been doing this ever since motion pictures were invented. How is it that every country in the Nile Valley is Black except for Egypt. Kush was in the Sudan by the way and could have included parts of Eastern Ethiopia. The Blackness of the Sudanese is obvious even to this day. Give me a break... 70 people came into Black Africa and almost 1million walked out White. It doesn't make sense at all. The Ashkenazi wants to maintain their Jewishness and White privilege at the same time. This is why they have a great constipation with the genetic, archeological, historic and physical evidence of who the indigenous Hebrews were and are to this day; not saying that these same Israelites could not have migrated across the Maghreb, into Western Asia, central Asia, then Europe and the Far East....It did happen, but it's time to let go of your white washing of history. The Arab has sub-Saharan genetics and is clearly a mulatto, a mix between the Black man and the Western Asian inhabitants of those times. Egypt had territory that bordered Turkey which means the migration out of Africa was already in full swing. We also know that the Ethiopians during the Axum empire had territory on both sides of the red sea, including the Arabian peninsula and there are still indigenous Black people living in these countries to this day.

  • @judahbenyah7339
    @judahbenyah7339 Год назад +4

    GENESIS 10-- Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.
    2 The sons of ***Japheth;*** Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.
    3 And the sons of Gomer; ***Ashkenaz,*** and Riphath, and Togarmah.
    4 And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.
    5 By these were the isles of the ***Gentiles*** divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

    • @chrisper7527
      @chrisper7527 Год назад +2

      Yes, it’s all there. I don’t understand their denial of these historical events. Total imposters!

    • @jamesr8584
      @jamesr8584 Год назад

      The fatal flaw of your logic is that Ashkenazi has nothing to with with Ashkenaz the son of Gomer. As in all BHI, verses are corrupted to fit the narrative.

    • @jamesr8584
      @jamesr8584 Год назад

      @@chrisper7527
      When you understand Ashkenaz refers to a geographic location where Jews the descendants of Jacob settled, then you will know the real imposters, you know like Kanye. Sorry, but that is real history.

    • @lanziemusic6739
      @lanziemusic6739 Год назад +2

      It's all there! They are in denial 🤣🤣🤣🤣 they are gentiles, God made a covenant with Israelites, and they are black!

    • @jamesr8584
      @jamesr8584 Год назад

      @@lanziemusic6739
      Okay, then John 8:44 applies to them.

  • @timetraveler2218
    @timetraveler2218 Год назад +5

    Something to interesting about Ashkenazim “The Ashkenazi (Eastern European Jewish) Egyptian community was entirely a product of the modern era and the arrival of Jews fleeing persecution in Europe in the nineteenth century. From 1865 on, the Ashkenazim of Cairo maintained a separate communal organization. They were geographically concentrated in the Darb al-Barabira quarter, where Yiddish was spoken in the streets until the 1950s. The community maintained a Yiddish theater group and a Yiddish program on the Egyptian state radio until the 1950s.[6] The more established and generally wealthier Sephardi community looked down on the Ashkenazim as social inferiors.” unfortunately can not post it with link source a message automatically removed

  • @Biblical_DNA
    @Biblical_DNA Год назад +3

    Abramson, can you please get a Biblical map and a Biblical Timeline? 24:15 The Kingdom of Kush in Northern Sudan had nothing to do with Ethiopia. Do you realize that we have DNA samples from Meroitic period? These people were originally from the Neolithic Levant Natufians, North African and East African admixture.
    "4000-year-old hair from the Middle Nile highlights unusual ancient DNA degradation pattern and a potential source of early eastern Africa pastoralists"

  • @chrisper7527
    @chrisper7527 Год назад +2

    Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Mizrahi aside, how does one identify Jew DNA? Is there a JEW DNA? How does it differ from “white” DNA? If the DNA of Jewish people markedly identifies with non-Jewish white Europeans, then how did they become Jewish? Are we to look at oral and Tanach/Bible/Torah accounts only? Should we ignore recorded history as a whole and rely solely on tradition and emotion? Do we rely on ancient artifacts depicting events which questions the existence of “white” Jewish peoples in Egypt? Should we accept the notion that “white” Jewish people IS from the “middle east” and is far removed from Europe but only migrated there, yet they have no kin to the modern people of the “Middle East”? Why do the ancient Jews in Africa comprise more Priestly Jew DNA than Ashkenaz, Sephardi, and Mizrahi? The thing is that: there are a lot of questions that needs to be answered. We can not just accept Jewishness based on what we know without clarity. We need to rely on science, then use DNA to make the connection to the biblical/Torah accounts. Is money wealth their God?

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад +1

      See the study titled,*_"A genome-wide genetic signature of Jewish ancestry perfectly separates individuals with and without full Jewish ancestry in a large random sample of European Americans"_*
      For easier reading the article about the study titled, *_Ashkenazi Jews Can be Identified at 100% Accuracy by DNA Tests_* in the July 22, 2015 *National Vanguard*

  • @LisaRichards_123
    @LisaRichards_123 Год назад +6

    You only get 50% of each parents’ DNA. Which DNA you get from them is random.

  • @harryharry87
    @harryharry87 Год назад +2

    Dr Abramson is absolutely wrong to say that people in antiquity looked like the people occupying various regions of the world today…..This is a ridiculous but commonly stated misconception…. I expect more from a supposed scholar 😢

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад +1

      DNA and actual artistic representation proves you wrong. Look at the mosaics and frescoes of the ancient synogogues of Dura Europa, Huqoq and Sepphoris. The Jews look the same today and share much DNA in common.

    • @harryharry87
      @harryharry87 Год назад

      The frescoes at Dura Europo are supportive of my comment. The scene depiction where Moses stands with the staff in front of soldiers depicts black people.Moses looks like Barrack Obama or Lenny Kravitz or Ben Harper or Halie Berry …not like Jared Kushner or Ivanka Trump or Prince Harry. If those dark skinned individuals with their Curley and Woolly hair lived in America they would be categorized as blacks… they would have been slaves, they would have been forced to sit at the back of the bus, they couldn’t sit at a lunch counter in a department store before civil rights… the klu klux klan routinely killed people who looked like that if they happened to look a white person in the eyes…. On the other hand the fresco depicting the Rabbi consecrating the tabernacle does look European/White …. He is likely one of their grandchildren or a convert… remember the frescoe in 244 CE is 1500 yrs after Moses’s exodus from Egypt. Remember according to the biblical writers, Moses had to pass as the grandson of Pharoh…. I hope you realize that the ancient Egyptians were even more black than the ancient Israelites.

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад

      @@harryharry87 No, Dura Europa, Huqoq and Sepphoris synogogues do not show Negroes. Try again.

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад +1

      ​@@harryharry87 And black Africans were not mixed with Europeans as today's AfrIcan Americans are. If you want to see what the Black people looked like then. Look for the Nubians shown by the Egyptians that they enslaved.

  • @jeffreywalsby4878
    @jeffreywalsby4878 Год назад +26

    I am an Ashkenazi Jew and I think the thing that has makesb it hard for us now has been the fact that we parade as though we are "White" when in fact it is more accurate to say that we (Askenazim) are mixed. Some of us are as White as are contemporary Europeans and others are of Middle Eastern backgrounds.

    • @gj-po9oy
      @gj-po9oy Год назад

      We are not mixed except by halachic conversion. We are Semites.

    • @951deuce
      @951deuce Год назад +8

      Let's be real and use common sense...your biblical nationality is amalek period. WE READ NOW

    • @jeffreywalsby4878
      @jeffreywalsby4878 Год назад

      @@951deuce what do you mean? You think that there is something called the the "Jewish Race" from a genetic point of view. Science is increasingly pointing out that all human communities are mixed. There are no pure races and there probably haven't been for thousand of years. Now, I;d like them do a study where they compare Neanderthal DNA in both Jewish and East Asian communities to see which communities have more Neanderthal admixture: Jews or East Asians.

    • @devintaylor8702
      @devintaylor8702 Год назад +2

      I Love All Israel 🇮🇱 and all of Abraham's Jewish Children ✡ I love all of you all ❤❤❤❤

    • @Gunslinger65
      @Gunslinger65 Год назад +3

      Knowledge hasn't a color, just as both truth and justice are color blind!

  • @debracraig1932
    @debracraig1932 Год назад +2

    Shemite and Israelites are people from North East Africa and look like Hamites. They are the children of Noah...people are allowed to convert or graft in to the culture but are not the seed of Noah. The Tanak does tell the color was brown to Black color. The Word says the have hair like sheep meaning wool! . You are a Religion...Blacks are the seed line.♥️

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад

      Shem had No land in Africa.

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад

      Nowhere in any book of the Tanakh does it say that the Israelites were black or brown.

  • @mikebalis9963
    @mikebalis9963 Год назад +8

    I always enjoy Dr. Abrahmson's lectures. Sir, you always take the high road through some contentious territory.

  • @benyah33
    @benyah33 Год назад +2

    Avodah Zarah 11a, explain why this literature says the Kelonimos’s are converts. This totally debunks your Founder Event theory.

  • @derrillfloyd5571
    @derrillfloyd5571 Год назад +7

    I grew up in a black Christian church that believes in the Sabbath and feast days. We do not preach that we are the original Jews. Some of the people I grew up with in that church have left to become Hebrew Israelites so I have more than a few that have tried to convince me that I’m Jewish or Israelite. I have never believed it and now that I’ve taken a DNA test I know I’m not. I still believe like I was raised but I don’t attend church as much due to the major support, by members and clergy, for BLM, modern black culture and liberalism/Democrat Party ideology.

    • @Azaryahuyisrael
      @Azaryahuyisrael Год назад +1

      A DnA test wouldn’t tell you if you are a Israelite or Shemitic. Unless you took a Y chromosome test or MTDNA test. A Great majority of Blacks decent from Shem and decent from the same people as Jews

    • @derrillfloyd5571
      @derrillfloyd5571 Год назад

      @@Azaryahuyisrael , I will look up what you said and will even endeavor to take these tests but to be truthful to you my first reaction is, here the Israelites coming up with another excuse to hold onto false doctrine.
      I’ve seen this man’s videos and he’s given more proof of real black Israelites, in ancient history, in watching the few minutes of his videos than Israelites have given me in the 50+ years y’all have been trying to convince me that we are the real Israelites.

    • @docshay7328
      @docshay7328 Год назад

      @@derrillfloyd5571 Bruh, i'll leave these references with you.
      The Critical Review, Or, Annals of Literature, Volume 57, page 141 (Published in 1783)​:

      "King John II. In 1492, EXPELLED ALL THE JEWS to the island of ST. THOMAS, which had been discovered in 1471, AND OTHER PORTUGUESE SETTLEMENTS ON THE CONTINENT OF AFRICA; and from these banished Jews, The BLACK PORTUGUESE, AS THEY ARE CALLED, and the Jews in Loango, who are despised even by the very Negroes, are descended."
      Sources of history in the Pentateuch, Pg.118, (1882) by Bartlett, Samuel Colcord, 1817-1898:
      “Thus the BLACK color is found not only in individuals, as the black Jews of Portugal, but in tribes, AS THE BICHARIS on the Red Sea, whose hair and character are perfectly Semitic;”
      And I got many more references documenting Black Jews all over Africa before the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade and colonialism. The Bible also supports this...
      Zephaniah 3:10
      "From BEYOND THE RIVERS OF CUSH my worshipers, MY SCATTERED PEOPLE, will bring me offerings."
      If were being honest, beyond the rivers of Cush would be...Sub Saharan Africa....

    • @Azaryahuyisrael
      @Azaryahuyisrael Год назад

      @@derrillfloyd5571 well im not really trying to convince you. Im just telling telling the truth. In the Bible God made nations there is no son of noah named Negro.
      Knowing so called Bantus or West Africans are Hebrews has nothing to do with your biblical doctrine

    • @derrillfloyd5571
      @derrillfloyd5571 Год назад

      @@Azaryahuyisrael , 1) I have no biblical doctrine, God’s word is His word. Most importantly, saying things like, “Noah had no son named Negro.”, has been the kind of nonsensical stuff that has turned me off to your movement. Like I don’t know that Negro means black and has only been used in recent history just like Caucasian and the rest of these man made racial definitions.
      I do believe know there are black Jews. This man doing this teaching has stated there are and were black Jews. The Bible says the Jews will be scattered throughout the nations. My thing is why is that so important when I’m going to be judged on the life I live and the vitriol toward Jews and whites is a turnoff. I grew up with whites that were like that and they had a lot of life failures and bitterness about themselves. Also because of that experience growing up and conversations with my elders who went through worse, I was never ashamed to be black and I don’t have a need to be nothing else but black.

  • @laurieberry4814
    @laurieberry4814 4 дня назад +1

    I like rabbis because they are gentle, friendly, and intelligent. I am 49% Ashkenazi JewThis is going to be interesting.

  • @carrollrhodes4050
    @carrollrhodes4050 Год назад +12

    Dr. Abramson:
    The Jews coming from the Spanish Inquisition to the British Isles were "white" eligible. Except for when the gene for dark skin color came to the surface and all the way to the present day you were and are considered non -white. My father was incarcerated in North Carolina in a prison for Negros because of his dark skin. Skin color was usually the primary way of determining your race. This was very true in early twentith century when eugenics was a hot topic all over the world. You could lose and your family also everything simply because your skin color was a shade dark. I was amazed to find out that I was neither American Indian or Negro as I had been told. I do not have genetic structurings from either. Thank you for your lectures.

  • @greghall3554
    @greghall3554 Год назад +2

    🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣

  • @deansupreme92
    @deansupreme92 Год назад +10

    How would you explain it if it was translated as “I am black, and comely”

    • @eternallove6600
      @eternallove6600 Год назад +1

      Right

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад +1

      that is not an Israelite being described. It is the Sulammite Slave girl. Not an Israelite. She explains that the Daughters of Jerusalem (Israelite women) looked down in her because she was dark. If they were dark, why would they look down on dark people?

    • @user-zv9um9pb6w
      @user-zv9um9pb6w Год назад

      Its better to quote apasuk we can do our own transportation.

    • @deansupreme92
      @deansupreme92 Год назад +1

      @@rachelsamuel3328 is Ruddy "white" or is it something else?

    • @deansupreme92
      @deansupreme92 Год назад

      @@rachelsamuel3328 She stated she was black and explained it was because they made her work outside in the field tending to the vineyards. So beyond complexion it was because she probably had pretty tough skin. Just like the "ruddy" complexioned shepherd boy who would become king.

  • @joemosely9383
    @joemosely9383 Год назад +9

    This Guy is so Reasonable & Logical !!

  • @kheo
    @kheo Год назад +4

    18:15 Damn Doc, I was enjoying your videos (my 2nd video) & while I very much enjoy your delivery & scholarship this is just bad faith. Why would we assume the ppls of Iraq today are indicative of Ur centries ago? Imagine doing the same thing with America for example smh

    • @bansadok
      @bansadok Год назад +2

      That's very good point and question. Soo much suppositions and assumptions!! What I find funny and a bit embarrassing is that according to the Torah, Nimrod's people, Khamites, were the original settlers of that land! Additionally, modern day Iraqis are often said to be of line of shem. That's quite a leap. Echo-chambering it seems unfortunately!

  • @abshayah2324
    @abshayah2324 5 месяцев назад +1

    You keep saying Jew or Jewish like every tribe of Israel is a Jew. Incorrect and misleading to the public. A Jew is of the tribe of Judah. And when the Kingdom split the southern kingdom was named Judah therefore making Benjamin & Levi’s that were there nicknamed “Jew” but not literally a Jew. You said Moses wife was married into Jewish royalty, incorrect because Moses was a of the tribe of Levi not Judah s no she’s wasn’t of Jewish royalty plus there’s no such thing as Jewish by ancient culture or Gods standards because “ish” means “like a Jew” just as childish means like a child but not an actual child. You have inherited LIES about your people 👉🏽 Jeremiah 16:19

  • @who167
    @who167 Год назад +8

    There are some other aspects and studies which I think should be discussed. There are plenty of Levantine peoples whose skin colour is also quite pale, for example, plenty of Alawites, Druze and Samaritans, although not all.
    Further, there's a study from 2004 which compares ancestry as we can tell it from DNA between different levantine groups, and especially many Jewish communities to that of the Samaritans, a nation whose own narrative, very much in agreement with the scholarly consensus about it, says that they are the descendants of the Israelites who were not *all* exiled by Assyria. The research pretty much agrees with the notion that Sephardic and Askenazi Jews are indeed closely related to the Samaritans.
    That is, we have a nation who shares ancestry with Jews on account of both genetics and the record of their own history, completely native to the Levant unless we consider our bible's narrative about them, the way I see it, their appearance should be considered as well. Some of them do indeed look very "middle eastern", so to speak, but also plenty whose skin colour is on the lighter side, for example the Israeli celebrity Sofi Tzdaka.
    In addition we do have colored paintings of Jews painting themselves from antiquity, as you surely know, such as the amazing painting in the synagogue of Dura Europas, and I'm positive that there are some Egyptian paintings who depict all kind of near east people from roughly the same period.
    Lastly there are some ancient arts which depict nearby nations which are considered very close in terms of culture and indeed descent, for example the bust of the Carthaginian leader Hanibaal.
    My point being, I think that the image you depicted about the original way Jews looked like was too simplistic and did not take into account some very relevant information.

    • @damonking76
      @damonking76 Год назад

      PRESENT DAY LEVANTINE PEOPLE!?? WHO PASSED THROUGH THE AREA SINCE THE BIBLICAL RECORD!?? A BOER[ AFRIKKKAN IS NOT A ZULU] LETS BE COMPLETELY HONEST WHEN DEALING WITH THESE TOPICS!!!

  • @markmiyashiro
    @markmiyashiro Год назад +9

    I did my DNA through Living DNA I'm Ashkinazi by my Mom, she has red hair, from Siberia Russia, I am Okinawan Jewish, soon to become the first Okinawan Rabbi in Oct. 2023

  • @lovmovement8477
    @lovmovement8477 Год назад +5

    Your videos are always well thought & illuminating. As a non-Jew & fellow human, wishing you all the best. Keep up the great work. Peace & love

  • @teeslist8495
    @teeslist8495 Год назад +2

    Peace, your ASHKENAZI & kazar's yes under king Bulan so wouldn't your people be of Japheth, And not Shem? Peace

    • @talzotar7580
      @talzotar7580 Год назад

      They will avoid the truth of the Torah from God.

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад

      Except there is no Tie to the Khazars in any modern Jews. There is no history. Archeology, linguistics or science (DNA). Jews have no Khazar DNA, or Turkic or Turkish DNA.

  • @spjew
    @spjew Год назад +7

    Wonderful, informative video. Thank you, from Beersheva, Israel.

  • @hertzhur8022
    @hertzhur8022 Год назад +2

    Dear Rabbi Abramson, I enjoy your history classes but it's much more nuanced the Erfurt Paper the 2 main points were
    1) there is a continuity from the Erfurt Jews to modern Ashkenzi Jews
    2) there were 2 distinct genetic groups of Jews in Erfurt one was Erfurt- ME most likely from the Rheinland Jews most similar to Turkish Jews and Italian Jews the second was Erfurt-Eu most similar to Modern Mainland Greeks had significant Eastern European admixture most likely from Eastern European Females Modern Eastern European Ashkenazim are Mixture of both Groups
    I would like to end that there is no evidence that Ashkenazim mainly come from Northern or Southern Italian women

  • @laurenannkattner7030
    @laurenannkattner7030 Год назад +11

    One thing I really like is how you readily work with new research such as DNA evidence to come up with new and important conclusions.

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  Год назад

      Thanks! Definitely a challenge for us historians trained with other methodologies.

    • @Azaryahuyisrael
      @Azaryahuyisrael Год назад

      Study haplogroup E and you will find the Shemites and sons of Abraham

    • @Melungeonpeople
      @Melungeonpeople Год назад +2

      My family has returned thru conversion. We have tested 13 individuals from 9 different unrelated families from Alabama, North Carolina, Maryland, West Virginia, and Virginia. We did autosomal DNA which includes all related ancestors not just father and mother. We tested two black, one brown and the rest white presenting people who are from rural and long established families. Everyone came back Hispanic, Jewish and Native American. None had British DNA and very little western DNA except Iberia. We match South Africa, Northern Africa, the Berbers, Poland... everywhere the Jewish Diaspora is currently as well as Israel. Potentially there are 100 million people in the South East with Jewish DNA.

    • @laurenannkattner7030
      @laurenannkattner7030 Год назад

      @@Melungeonpeople Wow! This is amazing.

  • @michaelcowen6137
    @michaelcowen6137 Год назад +10

    Baruch Hashem Rabbi! Thank you! Always terrific content.

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  Год назад +2

      I'm glad that you enjoyed the lectures! Thank you for your kind feedback!

  • @davidcreuze6856
    @davidcreuze6856 Год назад +4

    I wonder about the Italian DNA mix itself in 800. I think there was a sizable Germanic admixture with the Longobardian invasions, but old stock Italian DNA was already pretty mixed, if I'm not mistaken, with some Roman, Gaul, North African, Eastern Mediterranean, etc...

  • @RobinHerzig
    @RobinHerzig Год назад +6

    Glad this topic is covered. Last video someone trolled me in the comments for asking about DNA research following migratory patterns.
    Not that I can't slay a troll 😄

  • @alaindarmon6036
    @alaindarmon6036 Год назад +7

    Question: As Ashkenazi Jews have some Italian ancestry, is it possible that Italians have Jewish ancestry? There were millions of Jews in the Roman Empire, what happened to most of them, they didn’t disappear, did they become Christians?

    • @eliedecastro5716
      @eliedecastro5716 Год назад +1

      Before Mashiah comes, those "disappeared Jews" will return to the covenant. The house of Sepharad (Spain. Portugal) will be reestablished and they (Sephardic Jews) will inherit the south. (South of Jerusalem)

    • @magnumopus1628
      @magnumopus1628 Год назад +4

      As an Italian jew, when it happens that I cross my path with a racist Italian (which is gladly not as often as some people might think) I simply say to take a DNA test. Because it's basically impossible for them to not have at least a couple of percentages of DNA that they wouldn't have expected.
      So yes, there are a lot of Italians with either a little bit, or a lot of Jewish DNA and ancestry.

    • @eliyahufogel
      @eliyahufogel Год назад +1

      What happened to them?? Nothing happened, they continued to live throughout Europe. Have you never heard of Jews?

    • @user-jr4kc6lu9q
      @user-jr4kc6lu9q Год назад +1

      @@eliyahufogel You don't understand Alain's question. Some Jews in Sicily and southern mainland Italy were FORCED to convert to Catholicism after 1492. Only the Jews who escaped from those parts of Italy remained Jews. The answer is yes there are many Catholic descendants of Jews in southern parts of Italy today.

  • @JudahRiseVLOGS
    @JudahRiseVLOGS Год назад +1

    19:12 I believe you fail to take into account later mixture with Persians, Turks and Europeans

  • @guydellagi4372
    @guydellagi4372 Год назад +3

    Why not just show iraqi jews, closest you going to get.

  • @upfulsoul826
    @upfulsoul826 Год назад +2

    This was a great presentation. But black people have difference complexions. I don't think the paintings you highlighted mean much.

  • @thecoloroctet1365
    @thecoloroctet1365 Год назад +3

    Hi Rabbi, in the talk you say the Jews of Ancient Israel would have the skin tone probably about those in Iraq, but the people you use as Iraqis are Arab Iraqis, already after the Islamic conquest. Wouldn’t it make more sense to use Assyrian Iraqis, since they have less Arabian admixture? The Assyrians are also directly mentioned in the Tanach without reference to a different skin tone, so it would be reasonable to think they were close.
    Here’s a video of Assyrians from a couple years back: ruclips.net/video/ed1NnoNwMLU/видео.html
    They are not the “Mexican” skin tone you mention, but slightly paler. It would stand to reason the Jews of ancient Israel were about this shade as well

  • @teeslist8495
    @teeslist8495 Год назад +1

    The truth is plain if one want to see them with out the twist. Abraham & sarah was black and they were living in Canaan. And there is no middle east that's a cover up to say Israel wasn't in africa yet northeast Africa is what you call middle east...The truth and only the truth will set you free. life started in Africa so why do you think they wouldn't be black

  • @houseoflev
    @houseoflev Год назад +27

    Hello Dr. Abramson!! First of all this lecture was very educational and very timely. Answered a lot of questions for us. And WOW!!!!!!! We were expecting to see our channel featured in your lecture. We are incredibly humbled and honored. Thank you so very much for your love and support. Your words warmed our hearts!🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
    And yes we cried… 😊

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  Год назад +9

      You and your wife are doing great work; I appreciate the enthusiasm that comes through in your videos. Wishing you much success!

    • @houseoflev
      @houseoflev Год назад +6

      @@HenryAbramsonPhD thank you so very much!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 We appreciate you!

    • @majuscule8883
      @majuscule8883 Год назад +3

      ​@@HenryAbramsonPhD I am not Jewish but I love listen to you and the modern story of Ashkenazim Jews is so beautiful.
      You are a great teacher, Please continue the great work . God bless.

    • @rochellesiegel5199
      @rochellesiegel5199 Год назад

      ❤️

  • @donnapido3824
    @donnapido3824 Год назад +2

    Iraqi Jews often have pale blue eyes and blond hair. These are the Community in Place. They are the ones who didn't move when other Jews did.

  • @yosefgreen3130
    @yosefgreen3130 Год назад +3

    Ruth the Moabite is from the Lot family, so she has exactly the same genetics as our father Abraham. I really don't like it when they say Ruth to talk about different genetics from the Hebrews.

  • @JR-yx3po
    @JR-yx3po Год назад +1

    Ashka-normative? What a revolting phrase. Why would you take something so negative and harmful and shoe-horn it onto Jews, who suffer enough anti-Jewishness as it is? Are you trying to encourage Jewish self-hatred? Btw, have you never been to Israel where Mizrachim are the majority? The Mizrachim do not in any way feel constrained to be or comply with Ashkenaz customs. So disappointed in that crack.

  • @traceycroxford8880
    @traceycroxford8880 Год назад +7

    Such an interesting presentation.
    Thank you!

  • @spinlaw
    @spinlaw Год назад +5

    Also with respect to genetics, you failed to mention the fascinating and clear differences between patriarchal and matriarchal DNA. Why?

    • @emmanuelgoldspleen2905
      @emmanuelgoldspleen2905 Год назад +1

      You're right, there are differences.
      Why did he not talk about it?
      Probably because the female converts to Judaism are no longer culturally relevant, in his view.

    • @magnumopus1628
      @magnumopus1628 Год назад

      Maybe because it would've made the topic even more complicated and this video a lot longer.
      We shouldn't always assume nefarious ulterior motifs.
      Also, he doesn't look like the "women aren't relevant" type of guy.... at all.

    • @emmanuelgoldspleen2905
      @emmanuelgoldspleen2905 Год назад +1

      @@magnumopus1628 Yes, and yes.
      And yes.
      I didn't mean it that way, but I think that in the eyes of most Jews, they do not ascribe much, if any, value to their natively Italic and natively Hellenic heritage.
      I've only heard them concentrate on their Hebraic and Middle Eastern heritage, even if they developed various Jewish rites while in Italy and Greece (and later France + Germany).
      On the whole, we are a very Italic and Hellenic peoples. It's often overlooked.

    • @spinlaw
      @spinlaw Год назад

      @@magnumopus1628WTF? who talked about nefarious motives?

    • @spinlaw
      @spinlaw Год назад +1

      @@emmanuelgoldspleen2905 Italic/Balkan only on the X chromosome, and only about 40%

  • @marcellusjackson5203
    @marcellusjackson5203 Год назад +1

    You bouncing around too much these people are Nubian aboriginal

  • @vincentrojas8305
    @vincentrojas8305 Год назад +6

    Where in the Torah does it say that Jews come in all colors and more importantly where in the Torah does it say that they are white?

  • @butikulwane1284
    @butikulwane1284 3 месяца назад +1

    Race has no plural. There's only one and it's the human race.

  • @dang1351
    @dang1351 Год назад +5

    Dr. Abramson, when do you think Koren might publish that 3-part Jewish history you referenced in the video? I can't wait to get my hands on it!

    • @user-jr4kc6lu9q
      @user-jr4kc6lu9q Год назад

      Dr. Abramson had earlier estimated that Koren Publishers will publish his series in 2023, 2024, and 2025 and that the title might be "The Jewish People: A History".

  • @sab5686
    @sab5686 Год назад +12

    your lessons are so so interesting! i’m so sorry you get nasty comments, we all appreciate you! i love how you use the torah as a way to analyze history

  • @talljib
    @talljib Год назад +2

    Haha all their luggage they got wholesale

  • @carolinospelt2932
    @carolinospelt2932 Год назад +7

    Thank you for this fascinating topic!

  • @jerzywieckowski7610
    @jerzywieckowski7610 Год назад +1

    This is crazy. You go to Spain and there are many Spaniards are white and people still say that Hispanics are brown people? Where this unhealthy obssesion comes from? Sick

    • @docastrov9013
      @docastrov9013 Год назад

      America, I guess. Irish are the whitest of the white yet weren't vclassed as White according to this. Nobody in Europe would dream of saying Spanish or Italians are not white.

  • @mmccbb7mcb278
    @mmccbb7mcb278 Год назад +9

    Quite possibly your best presentation yet Henry.
    Spoken from the heart, yet packed with much fascinating material.
    As Ashkenazi myself and having lived in Israel for two years I was always amazed at the diversity of the Jewish people around me.
    You answered many of the questions I had.

    • @lookatmepleasesir
      @lookatmepleasesir Год назад +3

      and you even see that in the samaritans where some of them are gingers and some of them look like indians

    • @philliparieff7862
      @philliparieff7862 Год назад

      @@lookatmepleasesir
      When my then 8 year old (now a Dad in his 40's) son and I planned and made a trip to visit the Holon Samaritan community, our Host was a striking redhead, as were other people we observed. So yes, redheadedness, and I must say, that distinctive redheadedness seen among Ashkenazim, is very noticeable among the Samaritans. I note as well, that back when my wife and I were dating, one of the girls in the group we socialized with as a Persian-Israeli girl with long red hair.

    • @anitanance5000
      @anitanance5000 Год назад

      Lies

    • @LiiveWiire
      @LiiveWiire Год назад

      IT SURE IS.... BUT NOT FOR THE REASON YOU GUYS THINK IT IS! 🤣 THIS LECTURE IS DAMAGING TO THE YEW-WISH PPL

  • @celtiberian07
    @celtiberian07 Год назад +2

    I am Jewish on my dad's side and I can tell you from experience and observation Jewish people are not always treated as white people regardless if they are ethnic in appearance or just look white

  • @dianaaduministriesandmissi3719
    @dianaaduministriesandmissi3719 Год назад +8

    Dear sir, I have a question for you. If you say part of the answer to "Jewish whiteness" is due to the fact that Jews living in Europe have been "whitened" through their long stay in the West, Is it possible that they were also darkened during their 400 years in Africa?

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад

      There is No proof of large amounts of Jews ever in sub-Saharan Africa,

  • @malgid5711
    @malgid5711 Год назад +2

    Ok so y’all don’t wanna deal with Revelation 2:9 & 3:9 but what about the passage in the Deuteronomy 28:64-68?

    • @jamesr8584
      @jamesr8584 Год назад +1

      Those passages are dealing with Black Israelites, they says they are Jews, but are not.

    • @malgid5711
      @malgid5711 Год назад

      @@jamesr8584 😂 but that doesn’t make sense.

    • @jamesr8584
      @jamesr8584 Год назад +1

      @@malgid5711
      BHI claims to be Jews but are not, it makes perfect sense,

    • @lanziemusic6739
      @lanziemusic6739 Год назад

      The real Israelites are black! Jewish people a gentile convert.

  • @roc7880
    @roc7880 Год назад +3

    I discovered Dr Abramson channel and I learned a lot of things about my own country history especially the role of Jewish communities. One mistake usually done in media is to present everything as an experience of oppression and discrimination and ignore the ways in which people cooperated and created things together.

  • @compteprivefr
    @compteprivefr 8 месяцев назад +1

    the children in the photos you showed that are arabs...They're fair-skinned because there's been a lot of mixing with europeans at this point. in ancient times they almost certainly were less fair in complexion and hair color.

  • @corey1time897
    @corey1time897 Год назад +3

    DNA from Esau how could they tell them apart from Jacob??? Twins

  • @barringtonbrown7152
    @barringtonbrown7152 Год назад +2

    One African family of siblings can have a range of skin color from light brown to dark brown. And having wooly hair to straight hair. The people of the Mediterranean are Afro European black skin Africans were on both sides of the Mediterranean Sea. It shows on the inhabitants' anatomy, their pubic hair is wooly.

  • @Rita1984
    @Rita1984 Год назад +3

    Im a light skinned jew of ashkenazi heritage yet ive never passed as “white european”, just passed as a light skinned eastern mediteranean like greek, turkish, or lebanese.

  • @ruchi750
    @ruchi750 Год назад +6

    Fascinating! Thank you so much for compiling this and sharing it with us

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  Год назад

      You are very welcome!
      Thank you for being a Public Subscriber!

  • @diplomatfromspace
    @diplomatfromspace Год назад +1

    ...luggage wholesale.... you are horrible sir.... i was so deep in to the lecture , then im flying out of Laguardia!

  • @NuNugirl
    @NuNugirl Год назад +3

    Finally someone is talking about this. Being thought of as Irish ☘️, most of my life, I found it a bit annoying ( nothing against the Irish) lol. My Sister was mistaken for being Swedish smh 🤦‍♀️

  • @hudsonbartley2493
    @hudsonbartley2493 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is interesting. But to say that the people of the scriptures look like the people in that part of the world today is a massive leap, but a common one

  • @anitanance5000
    @anitanance5000 Год назад +3

    For your Henry..Daniel 11 vs 14

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад

      ???? The king of the North. The Assyrians.against the King of the South (Southern Kingdom) So??????

  • @mordechaiczellak2358
    @mordechaiczellak2358 6 месяцев назад +1

    I have traveled a great deal. Lebanese people are very light skin. So are some Syrians.

  • @xtremefight
    @xtremefight Год назад +3

    Although this is probably just piecing together a "best guess" out of what we have, I commend your efforts. The topic can be quite nebulous and fuzzy. Loved the wholesale luggage line! :-) As a great person taught me when I was young, take what you're doing very seriously but never take yourself too serious.

  • @patrickbly4170
    @patrickbly4170 Год назад +1

    G#D is using " The Jews ✡ " 😳 ... So we can make a distinction between what is Sacred and what is Profane.
    WE are very fortunate to have them as our neighbors...and better than that ... as our Friends .

  • @EuphoniaPooch
    @EuphoniaPooch Год назад +4

    Henry, you have been a great discovery. I've really enjoyed learning all this.

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  Год назад

      I'm glad to hear that you are enjoying the videos!
      Thank you for being a Public Subscriber!

  • @joeldick6871
    @joeldick6871 Год назад +2

    Not like Scarlett Johansson, and more like Mila Kunis.

  • @ItsTheQs
    @ItsTheQs Год назад +5

    Truly strong presentation that covered a lot of ground - from Benjamin of Tudela's observations, the BHI movement in the US, and the bottom line of Ashkenazic origins and identity. And then focusing on what's most important - both truth and acceptance. An objective and grounded approach that is lacking in such discussions from most sides.

    • @hiswillbedone642
      @hiswillbedone642 Год назад

      And yet the source he quoted which is in their literature says that their founders were converts. Sheeple will just listen and not actually do their own research he knew that lol shame on you

    • @ItsTheQs
      @ItsTheQs Год назад

      ​@@hiswillbedone642 Hey, appreciate your comment. Please provide the sources you're referring to in a link here, as I'm not clear what you're referring to. Thanks -

    • @ItsTheQs
      @ItsTheQs Год назад +2

      @@hiswillbedone642 Oh you mean that the Matrilineal line has Italian converts. Yeah I don't believe I, or he, disputed that.

  • @nicolemoore7618
    @nicolemoore7618 Год назад +1

    White Eligible?
    What a laugh !
    It's obvious you haven't read Revelation 1:10-15, where the Apostle John describes The King of Judah. And HE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU ! Christ Jesus is the king of Judah, and he is a BLACK MAN with a (wooly) afro. Please see Revelation 1:10-15. You don't look like the BLACK man Christ Jesus in Revelation 1:10-15.
    As for Iraq and that so-called Middle East area you now control, also known as Northern Africa. In Genesis 12: 10 The Most High told Abraham to start out for the promised land. .As he traveled SOUTH, the bible says a famine came into the land, and Abraham left out of the promised land to go into Egypt. Egypt is on the Contenant of Africa.
    The Holy Bible says in Genesis 13: 1-3, that after the famine was over. Abraham took his family and left Egypt traveling SOUTH again, going back to Canaan the promised land. If you travel SOUTH coming out of Egypt, it keeps you ON the Contenant of Africa, it doesn't take you off the Contenant of Africa. Abraham NEVER traveled NORTH to Northern Africa ( aka the so-called Middle East). It Never happened!

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад

      It's obvious you don't understand the Greek.
      Revelations is about a resurrected Jesus, the spirit glowing. Nowhere is there black skin.
      *_His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; and his feet like into fine brass (should be bronze from the Greek) as if they burned in a furnace;_*
      So his head and his hair was white, and his feet were the color of brass/bronze. *Jesus was a Zebra?*
      It says that his head, and his hair was white, It was like in a halo, *encased in a white glow.*
      His eyes were as a flame of fire, *they glowed!*
      His feet, the skin you saw below the tunic was like metal heated in a furnace. It turns to liquid and *it glows white-hot..*
      *This was not a siting of the man, Jesus, his was the spirit of Jesus that glowed. Nowhere is black or brown skin spoken of.*

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад

      Look up a map of Abraham's travels. They have many available. He was not in Africa.

  • @RivieraRegimeTV
    @RivieraRegimeTV Год назад +3

    Thank you for your important work in preserving and educating this ignorant and bigoted world.

  • @matthewbuckner4000
    @matthewbuckner4000 6 месяцев назад +1

    But who is actually of Hebrew Blood ?

  • @kurakuson
    @kurakuson Год назад +4

    "Holy City of Brooklyn"

  • @fredharvey2720
    @fredharvey2720 Год назад +1

    Intermarriage with Europeans.

  • @tahliah6691
    @tahliah6691 Год назад +8

    I am Jewish/Hebrew of colour and found this a topic of fascination for years whilst looking at the world around me whilst studying Torah and Tanakh and in this topic Jews of African decent are very much discriminated against in not just Judaism but the world at large.
    Even though race isn’t an issue in the eyes of TMH it’s always been an issue amongst people especially of people who are ‘white’ against those who are not….. I’m not saying that people of colour cannot be racist… but getting to the facts… in Exodus 12 v 38 it is stated that A mixed multitude left Mizrahim to go to the promised land…. That tells me that the Hebrews leaving Egypt in Africa were from different tribes located in that region at the time being mistreated by the Mizrahim….
    We cannot ignore the fact that in the world we live in people are primarily judged by the way they look or their skin colour… especially in the west..
    To make life easier I would define people in this world as being of African South Asian Europeans or oriental or mixed in origin… we all fall into one of these categories…. Whether we like it or not.
    I don’t use the black and white or yellow to describe people as I find it racist .. colonialistic and not correct…. Afro people are not black …. They are infact many shades of brown to be precise….TMH identifies people by tribes…
    Therefore …. I would agree that Hebrew or Jews can be any colour…. TMH didn’t have an issue with whom Moses Joseph or Abraham etc married outside of the tribe as long as the women converted be the children are raised according to the laws etc of TMH.

    • @bansadok
      @bansadok Год назад +3

      I pondered how to respond to your comment. Put it this way; orthodox or conservative "Jewish folks" in the public media often say when prejudices and inhumanity are identified among the Jewish community " oh that may be a minority" but every synagogue I've gone to, whether in the Americas, Africa, Kenya in particular, or UK, the prejudice has been palpable, and of course one of the first questions you get ask is "did your parents convert or did you?" or words to that effect. It's clear to me that "white" racism is inherent in orthodox Judaism, particularly Ashkenazism. This is MY EXPERIENCE.

  • @TRUTHTEACHER2007
    @TRUTHTEACHER2007 Год назад +2

    Those aren't slaves. Those are Egyptians.

  • @2000sayan
    @2000sayan Год назад +4

    This is very informative. I am very curious about Jewish history and this explains a lot. ❤From India.

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  Год назад +1

      I'm so glad that you found the video helpful!

    • @SPECIALTRADER1
      @SPECIALTRADER1 Год назад +1

      This isn't Jewish history he's on true Israelites. Hebrews come from Land of black people. Not from any European nation especially Germany or Russia. It's common sense

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад

      ​@@SPECIALTRADER1
      Israel never had black people, they have DNA studies on the Canaanites and they were not Negroid. They have DNA on the people in Ancient Israel from 6500 to 3000 BCE, about the time of Abraham, the study shows light skinned, blue-eyed blondes in Israel. Please show me the peer reviewed study that explains the Israelites were Negro?

  • @cafeinst
    @cafeinst Год назад +1

    I always wondered why Ashkenazi Jews look Italian. Now I know.

  • @christinabernier4860
    @christinabernier4860 Год назад +29

    I always enjoy your lectures, they are always thoughtful, kind, and informative. I left Christianity 7 years ago to start practicing the Torah. I did not find out until several years later my ancestors were Crypto Jews, which explains my previously unexplained yearning for the Torah. I studied the Tanakh for several years independently and chose Karaite Judaism as a way to practice my faith, but when I tried to attend the only synagogue in my small town, which was Reform, I was told I was not welcome because “Jews must keep a gate around the culture.” It was hurtful because my ancestors fled Spain hundreds of years ago to practice our faith and were later forcibly converted by Spanish conquistadors in Mexico, making my ancestors “marranos.” To be told I’m not Jewish because I choose to keep Torah differently than rabbinic Judaism when there are Jews who don’t practice halakhah at all, made me feel a deep kinship to Uriel DaCosta for what he must’ve suffered. Lest our people forget, until Mashiach comes, we are still in the diaspora. So for those who are fortunate enough to know their Jewish history, have compassion on the ones whose heritage has been stolen from them, either by the Catholic Inquisition or the slave trade. The Torah explicitly commands kindness to the stranger, and one Torah for all. That might be because that “stranger” might actually be your brother. Shalom 🙏

    • @kwawkwansah2452
      @kwawkwansah2452 Год назад +4

      My words of support to you are that it makes no difference what men do it is what you do before HaShem that counts. In some ways i can understand why some may be guarded in their belief.
      However Torah also says Jewish people will be a light to the world and that people will enquire about these great laws, i think sometimes they/we miss that point. Thus it is wrong to be unwelcoming and in fact it is repeated throughout the Torah to be kind to Gerim, how much more if you already one of them.
      Also how can you be marranos if it was through coercion and not choice.

    • @christinabernier4860
      @christinabernier4860 Год назад +3

      Thank you for your words of support :) There’s a book written by a rabbi in New Mexico that describes the use of the word “marrrano” and the humiliation associated with it. The Spanish Inquisition was such a horror, but the tragedy of it has been lost with the passing of time. Imagine giving up everything you have to come to the New World to practice your faith only to be forcibly converted in horrific ways by Spanish conquistadors on orders of the Catholic monarchy. There are many of us who are trying to return, but the truth of who we are has been erased from us and we are unrecognizable as Am Israel, just as the prophets foretold. I had a cushy life as a Christian, now I'm shunned by Christians and Jews alike because I try to please HaShem alone. That’s a fate I wholeheartedly accept because of the Jewish soul that burns within me. It’s also a way to honor my loved ones who risked everything to practice their faith.

    • @gj-po9oy
      @gj-po9oy Год назад +2

      Whoever wants to be Jewish needs to accept the entirety of the Torah as is. Much sorrow so much lack knowledge but there is time to repair. rather than focus on upset, maybe focus on excitement to learn what you say ws taken from you. The Torah has commands with no explanation, it's a matter of faith. It's not a choice of what can be accepted or not. When you get to that level in your studies you will understand why it's so hard to be a Jew and if you wish to then accept the Torah as is, you will succeed.

    • @kwawkwansah2452
      @kwawkwansah2452 Год назад +3

      @@gj-po9oy that is fair enough but i dont think that our sister has suggested she has rejected any part of the Blessed Torah.
      The issue is feeling unwelcome. I recall in another thread elsewhere someone suggested some haredi particularly Ashkenaz ones would not even return a Shabat Shalom to someone they think is either not observant or not Jewish. Please note i say some.
      Surely that goes against principles found in the Torah and the whole purpose of Jewishness. The purpose is not necessarily for converts but for everyone to know HaShem but being quite insular it may have the opposite affect.

    • @babababad
      @babababad Год назад +5

      The door is still open for you to come to Judaism. But Judaism is a communal religion, not an individual one. Joining a Jewish congregation means accepting the core norms and values of that specific congregation (with of course some room for variety of opinions and interpretations). In the same way that a Christian who doesn't believe in the Pope wouldn't join a Roman Catholic parish, one wouldn't join a rabbinic community if one didn't believe in the rabbinic tradition (which was the tradition your ancestors followed). Likewise, someone who aspires to Karaite Judaism would best be fulfilled by becoming involved in a Karaite congregation, as Karaism is not merely "Tanakh-only Judaism" but rather a long-standing community with its own specific traditions and practices.
      Da Costa is a good example of someone who tried to return to Judaism but failed because he insisted on doing it on his own terms. Having been raised a Christian, he always viewed the Bible from a Christian point of view, examining it as an isolated text rather than the foundation of the living traditions of the Jewish people. He was outcast because not only was he never really able to lose this prejudice, he also tried to persuade other Jews to reject Judaism and adopt his novel interpretations.

  • @marknadirworx
    @marknadirworx Год назад +7

    Tnx for taking the challenge on this topic. But you yourself said here that out of all the Italian (Roman) Jews it was a small group that made it up north. And now this small group represents the Jews for the most part while the "green line" people don't quite get the recognition and you don't actually go into detail regarding their history. There are African tribes in the numbers of tens of millions that claim to be of Jewish origin. That's a lot of people to be disregarded but it seems that is the case with most people of color

    • @babababad
      @babababad Год назад +1

      watch the next lecture, he talks about the Jews of Africa

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад +1

      None of the African tribes are shown to come from Israel. Even the Ethiopian Jews have the same DNA as the Ethiopian non-Jews.

    • @marknadirworx
      @marknadirworx Год назад

      @@rachelsamuel3328 pfffffffffff

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад +1

      @@marknadirworx
      Truth hurts!

    • @marknadirworx
      @marknadirworx Год назад

      @@rachelsamuel3328 go away

  • @jaygray1596
    @jaygray1596 Год назад +1

    All do respect there's no middle East Jerusalem is in North East Africa and Hebrew is a Semitic Afro-asiatic Language Sir it's African. We are Hebrew Not Jewish The Color of King Solomon Song of Solomon 1 v5 King James Bible, King Solomon had locks Song of Solomon 5 v11 King James Bible. Which People on this Earth mostly have locks, again all do respect.

    • @rachelsamuel3328
      @rachelsamuel3328 Год назад

      There was never a time that Jerusalem was Ever considered as part of Africa! The land was not even known as Africa until the 1500s. The area of Africa was only the North and known as Libya or Ethiopia.

    • @jaygray1596
      @jaygray1596 Год назад

      @@rachelsamuel3328 I can slow you only African people in Jerusalem doing 1925 Jewish People Started there State in 1948. Once again Afro-asiatic Semitic Language Hebrew is Part of that group there's No way around it but if you like keep trying.

    • @jaygray1596
      @jaygray1596 Год назад

      @@rachelsamuel3328 in a Israeli News Paper Called Haaretz Nov 14, 2008 said Israeli Anthropologist claims the subject of the kingdom of Judea looked more like black Africans. Ofri Ilany and Haaretz correspondent, I can slow you more take care.

  • @damonking76
    @damonking76 Год назад +3

    BECAUSE[ RUSSIAN,GERMAN,POLISH,SPANISH,ARMEMIAN,UKRAINIAN ETC] THEY "A-R-E" WHYTE!!! LOL 😆 STEVIE WONDER CAN SEE THAT!!! OMG

  • @teeslist8495
    @teeslist8495 Год назад +1

    Your Japheths seed and part Turkish and German and that make you white. Your king was king Bulan. Israel is in Africa meaning the people had color...no more lies

  • @elizabethgraham8819
    @elizabethgraham8819 Год назад +6

    The real Hebrews are black, period!

  • @izzymaedavidson1974
    @izzymaedavidson1974 Год назад +2

    I’m Jewish of ashkenazi descent but wasn’t raised very secular due to my mother leaving when I was Seven . I came here to learn a bit