After having raw sewage back up in my friends basement and all her furnishings destroyed and the awful mess that had to be dealt with I'm going to install this valve. We'll get permits with the city of Portland even though their inadequate sewer system is the cause. I'm a contractor and your video is well made and shows clearly step by step how it is done. Thank you.
You may need a relief pump if the valve shuts for a length of time where will the ground and toilet water go if it can't get downstream? Up your floor.
This value only stops the city's sewer from backing up. When the city's sewer fails and backs up this valve will close but everything you flush above that point will flood into the lowest point.
Yes, but it will be your own shit not some other people’s 😂 Most of the backup is short lived for 10-20 minutes, then it subsides. So only if your home happens to produce a lot of sewage at that moment, then you got an internal flood.
Hey you got the exact same level I do, I'm going to be installing one of these in my garage considering my house sits 2 ft higher than my garage if anything's backs up guess where it's going to go, so I have to put one of these in my garage
I wish when they discussed "flooding" they would distinguish between sewage backup, and rainwater flooding. To me they are two separate worlds but maybe not in Windsor.
Do you need that clean out if you are using the backflow preventor that has a threaded clean out ? Also in our situation there's an above ground cleanout just outside the house ( a total of 3 feet from the backflow prevent preventor inside the house )
In Windsor, you do not need to install an additional cleanout if you install a backwater valve that has an integrated cleanout. A building cleanout on the exterior at grade is permitted as long as it is within 1 metre (3 feet) of the exterior foundation wall. For more information, please feel free to contact 311: www.citywindsor.ca/cityhall/customerservice/311/Pages/311.aspx
They used the wrong fernco bands with this installation. The proper bands should of had metal sleeves around them so over time they dont sag and create a restriction or a blockage.
*My floor drain backs up. It's a 3 inches cast iron pipe about 25 years old. I had three different plumbers done their camera thingy, I had the chain knocker service done, hydrojet wash done and more over, I had the sewer lateral line outside my house, also replaced, but floor drain still backs up once in a while. I am told that I may need to replace the entire pipe under the basement floor with a new 4 inches PVC. That's quite a costly project. Is that the only solution or I can trying something else?* *One plumber told me that whenever we use a lil bit of extra toilet paper and flush it down the toilet, it will mostly result in the basement floor drain backing up. Is there a solution to this problem other then tearing down 50 linear foot of my basement floor?*
If the advice of a licensed plumbing contractor indicates that replacement is necessary, that is likely going to be the case, as aging pipes (e.g. cast iron) can degrade beyond the point of repair. If you live here in Windsor, the City of Windsor is unfortunately not able to assist with the portion that is considered private property. Available options will differ based on a number of factors, so seeking the advice of a qualified and licensed plumbing contractor remains your best choice.
Slabs are by code 4" min of concrete with gravel below that. In other words, the plumber made a pretty weak spot in that floor by only using about 1 1/2 inch of concrete.
Hey its a 1 bag job now! It's so when his shit fails he doesn't have to work his ass off to fix it. You wish floors were 4" thick its as thick as the cement trucks bring. I've went through 2.5" and 4" 14" apart. Driveways should have 4" of base but I watched them pour a 2x4" thick slab on clay soil, in 10 years or less its going to sink. Contractors do what they can get away with you can't see it from his driveway.
Any homeowner can do work on there own property without calling a pro provided they get a permit and its up to code and passes inspection. you do not have to hire a contractor. But who wants to play with sewage lines? Its a very nasty stinky job.
Backwater valves are optimized for mainline sewer connections, and as such, they may not be appropriate for septic tank systems. Conditions can vary though, so your best bet is to consult with a licensed plumber in your area for detailed direction.
It will work as long as the back water valve is separated on your building drain. There is always a way to install one. In my area code doesn't require they be installed only outside.
So how is this any different from me capping my basent sewer to stop backup other than it coming up another drain..the pressure on this would be just as much as capping your floor drain..how is it not going to pop
Our Operations Department advises, the backwater valve is installed on the main sanitary pipe where it exits the building. All other piping is upstream of the backwater valve. The backwater valve stops the sewage surcharge from moving into other piping and coming up through other outlets such as floor drain and flooding all the piping in the house. If you capped only the basement sewer (floor drain), the other pipes would continue to fill to the level of the surcharge and if that level was above say, a basement shower, then the sewage would start coming out of the shower.
Thanks for your question. Labour charges and installation time can vary depending on conditions at your home and where you live. It’s best to seek estimates from licensed contractors. Also, if you live here in Windsor, you may be eligible for the City’s flooding subsidy program, which can help with some of the cost. Learn more here: citywindsor.ca/residents/maintenanceandfieldservices/Sewers-/Pages/Basement-Flooding-Protection-Subsidy-Program-(BFP).aspx
There is no clean out before the backflow valve? So how do you run a drain snake if let's say Roots invade the line between the house and main? There should be two cleanouts. In addition backflow should be serviced and inspected once a year.
Good afternoon, the clean out is in the correct location just inside the building/basement foundation (right side of the photo), down stream/after the back water valve (right side of the photo is towards the street). We know this just based on the direction of the open valve flap an orientation of the T-Y. Eeling/Snaking towards the municipal main can take place at this clean out just inside the building face. Alternatively, from an exterior clean out at the property line (if one exists), towards the main or in the opposite direction back towards the building.
If you are interested in having a backwater valve, it would be best to speak with your contractor about the specifics of your property. Installation is not a service we provide ourselves, but the demonstration in this video was provided by one of our trusted contractors.
All depends on the depth outside. Unless you build a manhole the code in my area forbids them being more than 30 inches below grade with an access point.
There should be a yellow plastic bag that the backwater valve sits in to prevent dirt from getting around it!! Without it, When you lift up the cover, all you will see is dirt!!!! lol
If the backflow were to be installed right at the foundation wall (where the existing cleanout is), would it not make more sense that the cleanout for the section from the home to the street be installed just outside the foundation wall? the existing code is part grandfathered before manditory disconnect of weeping tile to sewer line and back flow installations existed.
In Windsor, the installation of a backwater valve (BWV) and building clean-out are subject to Part 7 of the Ontario Building Code (OBC). Residential property owners have the option of an interior or exterior backwater valve under the OBC and BWV program. We provide links for both type of valves: backwatervalve.com/Upload/products/backwater-valves/Fullport-Backwater-Valve-Brochure-English.pdf or backwatervalve.com/Upload/products/backwater-valves/Fullport-Backwater-Valve-Brochure-English.pdf. For more information, please email your questions to the Building Department at buildingdept@citywindsor.ca
@@ryanvanderwel2301 Code is mim standard's You can improve over what code states you have to meet. I've been on Decks built that passed inspection, I would not like to be on.
As conditions vary from home to home, prices can vary considerably as well. Your best approach is to contact licensed plumbers or drainage contractors to obtain some quotes. For information on basement flooding and available assistance programs from the City of Windsor, please see our Flooding page: www.citywindsor.ca/residents/maintenanceandfieldservices/Sewers-/Pages/Flooding.aspx
Thank you for your question. For specific details on the process, price and potential configurations, we recommend touching base with a licensed contractor.
oh look, an inspector. Ive been in houses that passed "inspection" Its like a house inspector when buying, the term is an oxymoron. But a great video explaining it well
Prices can vary depending on a number of factors. However, the City can offer assistance through our subsidy program. For more information, please feel free to call 311 or visit www.citywindsor.ca/residents/maintenanceandfieldservices/Sewers-/Pages/Basement-Flooding-Protection-Subsidy-Program-(BFP).aspx
really? so when you buy a house that somone has fixed then you get all the shoddy work he's done over the years? thats dumb. Are you positive about that, or is it a homeowner has to get inspections and pull permits unless he's a contractor and goes by code.
@@bobbg9041 If you are that worried just have an inspector come in prior to purchasing a property that doesn't need permits. Just because you like uncle sam all in your rear end doesn't mean we do bobbg
Thanks for your question. While we have a program here in Windsor, Ontario, we would have to defer to your local government branches to comment on what would be available in your community.
Thanks for your question. I asked the gentleman that carried out the installation and he says the clean out always has to be in front of the backwater valve so you can clean downstream of the backwater valve.
cityofwindsor 3:40 isn’t he supposed to be using a two way clean out instead of a sanitary tee, laying on its back like that for whatever reason is a no go.
The correct way is a wye combination in front of the back water device. You can remove the access point to the back water device to clean the sewer upstream. Never use a sanitary tee on it's back. It's been prohibited in all of America for 60 years.
Thank you for your comment. The City of Windsor Building Department advises that chief building officials in Ontario generally accept T-Ys on their back for cleanout purposes (residential only) as an OBC ‘Alternative Solution’ to the requirement for a Y and 45 fitting. This specific T-Y fitting is not installed to direct sewage in the direction of flow; it is only acting as an access point for testing and maintenance.
Been "on the list" for the program for a year. Application lost. On the list again after second massive sewage flood in one year. So the city like to pretend, but actually doing is a whole other topic. Also, they are cheap. There are good and bad backwater valves. Should be subsidizing good ones to avoid floods not cheap ones that are sure to fail. As did all the backwater valves Aug 29 2017 in Riverside. Not a single person I know with said valve did NOT flood. They all DID.
If the valve is the proper one which the valve itself should cost around 350 dollars not counting labor, access points etc. Ive been plumbing for 23 years. Ive cleaned out ones my father installed over 35 years ago and they are still working, even when it floods. Always hire contractors that go above and beyond the minimum code, and that buy the best materials that they know work.
Yes that's so in a few years they can dig it up and do it all over again and charge you more money that is just smart thinking and money always coming in
They make a schedule 80 back flow prevention device for a sewer and is required to be installed into a case hardened steel access box for future repair, cleaning, inspection of sewer etc.
It will only prevent the city's sewer from backing up. It will not stop your sewer from flooding into the basement. That is another system needed. They make ones that will pump your sewer that backs up out of the house. They are emergency only pumps.
Everything sounds good, except, a permit? Who owns that property? The town, the city or the State? Why in hell should the alleged owner have to get permission? To hell with that...
The permit constitutes an inspection. The inspection ensures it was installed to code. Handy Andy's and homeowners who think they "I KaN PlUmMeR" can install improperly. You can pull a homeowners permit and do it yourself if you own the property but to ensure code it needs to be inspected. I'm a plumber and love having my work inspected because it shows the owner I know what I'm doing and they made the right choice to contract me instead of the Craigslist special. I can't tell you how many times "plumbing savvy" owners thought they knew what they were doing and now they're infested with rats because you can't cap an abandoned waste arm with expansion foam. Think of it like this, you're paying a small amount extra to ensure the work was done correctly. It's about $60 to pull a permit here in Pinellas county florida. That $60 gives you the piece of mind knowing the work is completed correctly and you won't have any issues in the future. All they're checking is that it's ran with proper fall and joints are primed and glued for sewer lines and there's a drip leg for gas appliances and pex lines are 18" from heater nipples. Literally making sure whatever work was done is safe. Like car seat inspectors at the hospital before you bring your newborn home or ansil inspectors for fire systems at commercial kitchens. The only people who complain about inspectors are people who dont trust what they're doing is up to code. The cost of a permit is always billed to the property owner anyways if you're the contracted plumber and if your pulling a homeowners permit it's the same rate. Always make sure the sewer has 1/8"-1/4" fall, pex lines are 18" from heater nipples, studs have nail plates if a water line goes through it, water lines are strapped, gas cocks for gas lines and ball valves for water lines, drip legs for every gas appliance, expansion tanks on water heaters for closed systems etc. Just follow code and there will be no issue with the inspection.
Thank you for your feedback Wayne. The Ontario Building Code doesn’t allow a TY fitting on its back unless it is for venting purposes. The application shown in this video is for clean-out purposes only and will not be receiving waste, so there is no potential of clogging. Also, the installation method meets the intent of the code and makes it easier to access for cleaning.
Not hard to get the permit from the city hall!??? ...gtfo , they all want to pay a profesional plumber for few pipes ..otherwise it won t allow it . Is not hard to read the codes and learn what's permitted and then call the inspector .. nope , gotta pay some grans $$$ for the plumber... ther are poisonous flowers, You don t need permit to be a gardener or to put oil in your car . At the end they sell pipes and plumbing equipment at the store free for public .. why it s a requirment to have aprofetional plumber instead trying yourself and calling inspection later (Just like for roof) it s " interestingly" annoying .
This video caused me to look for my own city's basement flooding grant program and saved me >1000 dollars. Thank you so so much!!
It saved you nothing you paid for it in your taxes. You just got some of your money back.
@@ilovetrump1252 yeah F*ck Turdeau, that lazy federal bum
I use 4 strap connectors. They are alot stronger. These backwater valves are becoming more popular. Tx.4 sharing !
Great video Thank you. Concrete is a mixture of cement, sand, and gravel -- concrete is what's in the ground. Cement is what's in the bag.
Great one! Thanks for sharing!
After having raw sewage back up in my friends basement and all her furnishings destroyed and the awful mess that had to be dealt with I'm going to install this valve. We'll get permits with the city of Portland even though their inadequate sewer system is the cause. I'm a contractor and your video is well made and shows clearly step by step how it is done. Thank you.
You may need a relief pump if the valve shuts for a length of time where will the ground and toilet water go if it can't get downstream? Up your floor.
Even Flow dipshit. Don't flush the toilet, don't take a shower.
This value only stops the city's sewer from backing up. When the city's sewer fails and backs up this valve will close but everything you flush above that point will flood into the lowest point.
Yes, but it will be your own shit not some other people’s 😂
Most of the backup is short lived for 10-20 minutes, then it subsides. So only if your home happens to produce a lot of sewage at that moment, then you got an internal flood.
Hey you got the exact same level I do, I'm going to be installing one of these in my garage considering my house sits 2 ft higher than my garage if anything's backs up guess where it's going to go, so I have to put one of these in my garage
I wish when they discussed "flooding" they would distinguish between sewage backup, and rainwater flooding. To me they are two separate worlds but maybe not in Windsor.
Do you need that clean out if you are using the backflow preventor that has a threaded clean out ? Also in our situation there's an above ground cleanout just outside the house ( a total of 3 feet from the backflow prevent preventor inside the house )
In Windsor, you do not need to install an additional cleanout if you install a backwater valve that has an integrated cleanout. A building cleanout on the exterior at grade is permitted as long as it is within 1 metre (3 feet) of the exterior foundation wall. For more information, please feel free to contact 311: www.citywindsor.ca/cityhall/customerservice/311/Pages/311.aspx
They used the wrong fernco bands with this installation. The proper bands should of had metal sleeves around them so over time they dont sag and create a restriction or a blockage.
They should have used “No Shear” Bands. It also depends on what the Plumbing Code allows where they live.
@@paulywalnuts9045 Those no shear bands are the best. Better than the fernco brand and the no hub with an adapter.
and they should have used CA6 gravel tamped beneath the pipes, which also were not Schedule 40. They also laid the concrete like 1/2" thick. LOL
*My floor drain backs up. It's a 3 inches cast iron pipe about 25 years old. I had three different plumbers done their camera thingy, I had the chain knocker service done, hydrojet wash done and more over, I had the sewer lateral line outside my house, also replaced, but floor drain still backs up once in a while. I am told that I may need to replace the entire pipe under the basement floor with a new 4 inches PVC. That's quite a costly project. Is that the only solution or I can trying something else?*
*One plumber told me that whenever we use a lil bit of extra toilet paper and flush it down the toilet, it will mostly result in the basement floor drain backing up. Is there a solution to this problem other then tearing down 50 linear foot of my basement floor?*
If the advice of a licensed plumbing contractor indicates that replacement is necessary, that is likely going to be the case, as aging pipes (e.g. cast iron) can degrade beyond the point of repair. If you live here in Windsor, the City of Windsor is unfortunately not able to assist with the portion that is considered private property. Available options will differ based on a number of factors, so seeking the advice of a qualified and licensed plumbing contractor remains your best choice.
Slabs are by code 4" min of concrete with gravel below that. In other words, the plumber made a pretty weak spot in that floor by only using about 1 1/2 inch of concrete.
Hey its a 1 bag job now! It's so when his shit fails he doesn't have to work his ass off to fix it.
You wish floors were 4" thick its as thick as the cement trucks bring. I've went through 2.5" and 4"
14" apart. Driveways should have 4" of base but I watched them pour a 2x4" thick slab on clay soil, in 10 years or less its going to sink. Contractors do what they can get away with you can't see it from his driveway.
@@bobbg9041 If he would have installed it in the proper case hardened steel access box, then you would never have to bust the floor again.
Another point in favor of having the work inspected.
Any homeowner can do work on there own property without calling a pro provided they get a permit and its up to code and passes inspection. you do not have to hire a contractor. But who wants to play with sewage lines?
Its a very nasty stinky job.
You do if the city requires it
I rather pay a pro and their insurance cover a lousy job.
what did you use to break that existing pipe?
Chain style snap cutters or use a Milwaukee torch thick metal blade in a Sawzall.
👏👏👏muito bom
Does this only apply to public sewage or can it be useful when you have a septic system?
Backwater valves are optimized for mainline sewer connections, and as such, they may not be appropriate for septic tank systems. Conditions can vary though, so your best bet is to consult with a licensed plumber in your area for detailed direction.
Only on city sewer, unless its a shared system, or you have a sewer lift, grinder pump installed.
I don't think this will work on a combined sewer system like in NYC. idk why the city does not work more efficiently to solve this sewer backup.
It will work as long as the back water valve is separated on your building drain. There is always a way to install one. In my area code doesn't require they be installed only outside.
So how is this any different from me capping my basent sewer to stop backup other than it coming up another drain..the pressure on this would be just as much as capping your floor drain..how is it not going to pop
Our Operations Department advises, the backwater valve is installed on the main sanitary pipe where it exits the building. All other piping is upstream of the backwater valve. The backwater valve stops the sewage surcharge from moving into other piping and coming up through other outlets such as floor drain and flooding all the piping in the house. If you capped only the basement sewer (floor drain), the other pipes would continue to fill to the level of the surcharge and if that level was above say, a basement shower, then the sewage would start coming out of the shower.
Does anyone know how much around this would cost to install in? I meant just the labor, not the piece itself. Thank you for your help!
Thanks for your question. Labour charges and installation time can vary depending on conditions at your home and where you live. It’s best to seek estimates from licensed contractors. Also, if you live here in Windsor, you may be eligible for the City’s flooding subsidy program, which can help with some of the cost. Learn more here:
citywindsor.ca/residents/maintenanceandfieldservices/Sewers-/Pages/Basement-Flooding-Protection-Subsidy-Program-(BFP).aspx
Depends on the depth of the pipework that you need to work on👍🏻
Sad.y , this model had recently exploded under a recent city sewer back up ! Wow what a messs.
Maybe try cast iron model instead
There is no clean out before the backflow valve? So how do you run a drain snake if let's say Roots invade the line between the house and main? There should be two cleanouts. In addition backflow should be serviced and inspected once a year.
Good afternoon, the clean out is in the correct location just inside the building/basement foundation (right side of the photo), down stream/after the back water valve (right side of the photo is towards the street). We know this just based on the direction of the open valve flap an orientation of the T-Y.
Eeling/Snaking towards the municipal main can take place at this clean out just inside the building face. Alternatively, from an exterior clean out at the property line (if one exists), towards the main or in the opposite direction back towards the building.
Cool
Someone in Brooklyn nyc was charging me 6000 grand for that work, it’s that posible?
Does it have to be installed within the house?
Can’t be installed just outside the foundation?
If you are interested in having a backwater valve, it would be best to speak with your contractor about the specifics of your property. Installation is not a service we provide ourselves, but the demonstration in this video was provided by one of our trusted contractors.
Yes you can install back water valves outside.
They are usually installed outside if the house doesn't have a basement.
All depends on the depth outside. Unless you build a manhole the code in my area forbids them being more than 30 inches below grade with an access point.
There should be a yellow plastic bag that the backwater valve sits in to prevent dirt from getting around it!! Without it, When you lift up the cover, all you will see is dirt!!!! lol
If the backflow were to be installed right at the foundation wall (where the existing cleanout is), would it not make more sense that the cleanout for the section from the home to the street be installed just outside the foundation wall? the existing code is part grandfathered before manditory disconnect of weeping tile to sewer line and back flow installations existed.
In Windsor, the installation of a backwater valve (BWV) and building clean-out are subject to Part 7 of the Ontario Building Code (OBC). Residential property owners have the option of an interior or exterior backwater valve under the OBC and BWV program. We provide links for both type of valves: backwatervalve.com/Upload/products/backwater-valves/Fullport-Backwater-Valve-Brochure-English.pdf or backwatervalve.com/Upload/products/backwater-valves/Fullport-Backwater-Valve-Brochure-English.pdf. For more information, please email your questions to the Building Department at buildingdept@citywindsor.ca
Would this stop mice getting in through sewer?
This is not the intended function of the backwater valve, and it should not be relied upon as a deterrent to wildlife.
I need this in my house
Where are the no shears
Why isn't the backwater valve mandatory within the plumbing code?
IPC (International Plumbing Code) Section 714.1, 714.2, 714.3 Sewer Backwater Valves.
@@ryanvanderwel2301
Code is mim standard's You can improve over what code states you have to meet.
I've been on Decks built that passed inspection, I would not like to be on.
It is if your up is lower than the manhole access points. Regardless I install one on every house on a city sewer system.
How much does it cost??
As conditions vary from home to home, prices can vary considerably as well. Your best approach is to contact licensed plumbers or drainage contractors to obtain some quotes. For information on basement flooding and available assistance programs from the City of Windsor, please see our Flooding page: www.citywindsor.ca/residents/maintenanceandfieldservices/Sewers-/Pages/Flooding.aspx
cost?
Thank you for your question. For specific details on the process, price and potential configurations, we recommend touching base with a licensed contractor.
A lot of money. I'm near Asheville NC. This would run you around 2800 USD with the concrete repaired.
@@cityofwindsor i would just do it myself with and use a genova check valve
oh look, an inspector. Ive been in houses that passed "inspection" Its like a house inspector when buying, the term is an oxymoron. But a great video explaining it well
It definitely is. My customers have to pay the county or city money just to tell them I did my job correctly.
How much does a job like this cost?
Prices can vary depending on a number of factors. However, the City can offer assistance through our subsidy program. For more information, please feel free to call 311 or visit www.citywindsor.ca/residents/maintenanceandfieldservices/Sewers-/Pages/Basement-Flooding-Protection-Subsidy-Program-(BFP).aspx
How much you got? Sucker!
@@bobbg9041 LOL
Here in Texas no need for a permit if is your property and you do it your self...
really? so when you buy a house that somone has fixed then you get all the shoddy work he's done over the years? thats dumb. Are you positive about that, or is it a homeowner has to get inspections and pull permits unless he's a contractor and goes by code.
@@bobbg9041 If you are that worried just have an inspector come in prior to purchasing a property that doesn't need permits. Just because you like uncle sam all in your rear end doesn't mean we do bobbg
Texan here, I can attest, and God bless it because I need nothing slowing me down.
@@Economivision Keep on trucking brother 💪
Is there any subsidy in Michigan for this kind of stuff ?
lol..no
Thanks for your question. While we have a program here in Windsor, Ontario, we would have to defer to your local government branches to comment on what would be available in your community.
No and you have to pay triple for car insurance
At 3:50 how come the fitting for the CO is installed in that direction?
Thanks for your question. I asked the gentleman that carried out the installation and he says the clean out always has to be in front of the backwater valve so you can clean downstream of the backwater valve.
Thanks C of W !
cityofwindsor 3:40 isn’t he supposed to be using a two way clean out instead of a sanitary tee, laying on its back like that for whatever reason is a no go.
The correct way is a wye combination in front of the back water device. You can remove the access point to the back water device to clean the sewer upstream. Never use a sanitary tee on it's back. It's been prohibited in all of America for 60 years.
@@joshm5816 Absolutely correct about the wye combination!
What kind of valve is that?
This is a Backwater Valve Model FR4.
@@cityofwindsor thanks
Prefer a pvc check valve..they still make cast iron check valves, they work great
Swing checks don't close all the way when facing downhill.
Its illegal to put at ty on it's back in ont plumbing code must use a y and 45 fyi
Thank you for your comment. The City of Windsor Building Department advises that chief building officials in Ontario generally accept T-Ys on their back for cleanout purposes (residential only) as an OBC ‘Alternative Solution’ to the requirement for a Y and 45 fitting. This specific T-Y fitting is not installed to direct sewage in the direction of flow; it is only acting as an access point for testing and maintenance.
I AM PLUMBER I NEVER WEAR A HELMET THAT FUNNY🤣🤣 PVC PIPE IS GONNA DROP FROM SILING OR WHAT? 🤣🤣
I'm not working today
Been "on the list" for the program for a year. Application lost. On the list again after second massive sewage flood in one year. So the city like to pretend, but actually doing is a whole other topic. Also, they are cheap. There are good and bad backwater valves. Should be subsidizing good ones to avoid floods not cheap ones that are sure to fail. As did all the backwater valves Aug 29 2017 in Riverside. Not a single person I know with said valve did NOT flood. They all DID.
Most likely because the folks didn't maintain their backwater valves. They must be cleaned periodically. Yearly is my recommendation
If the valve is the proper one which the valve itself should cost around 350 dollars not counting labor, access points etc. Ive been plumbing for 23 years. Ive cleaned out ones my father installed over 35 years ago and they are still working, even when it floods. Always hire contractors that go above and beyond the minimum code, and that buy the best materials that they know work.
@@joshm5816 ,,,what kind of valve would you recommend? can you attach a link please.... thanks
its flmly plastic......
Yes that's so in a few years they can dig it up and do it all over again and charge you more money that is just smart thinking and money always coming in
They make a schedule 80 back flow prevention device for a sewer and is required to be installed into a case hardened steel access box for future repair, cleaning, inspection of sewer etc.
yeah just use a genova sch 40 checkvalve
It doesn't work. I have one of this and the basement still flooded
It will only prevent the city's sewer from backing up. It will not stop your sewer from flooding into the basement. That is another system needed. They make ones that will pump your sewer that backs up out of the house. They are emergency only pumps.
Everything sounds good, except, a permit? Who owns that property? The town, the city or the State? Why in hell should the alleged owner have to get permission? To hell with that...
The permit constitutes an inspection. The inspection ensures it was installed to code. Handy Andy's and homeowners who think they "I KaN PlUmMeR" can install improperly. You can pull a homeowners permit and do it yourself if you own the property but to ensure code it needs to be inspected. I'm a plumber and love having my work inspected because it shows the owner I know what I'm doing and they made the right choice to contract me instead of the Craigslist special. I can't tell you how many times "plumbing savvy" owners thought they knew what they were doing and now they're infested with rats because you can't cap an abandoned waste arm with expansion foam. Think of it like this, you're paying a small amount extra to ensure the work was done correctly. It's about $60 to pull a permit here in Pinellas county florida. That $60 gives you the piece of mind knowing the work is completed correctly and you won't have any issues in the future. All they're checking is that it's ran with proper fall and joints are primed and glued for sewer lines and there's a drip leg for gas appliances and pex lines are 18" from heater nipples. Literally making sure whatever work was done is safe. Like car seat inspectors at the hospital before you bring your newborn home or ansil inspectors for fire systems at commercial kitchens. The only people who complain about inspectors are people who dont trust what they're doing is up to code. The cost of a permit is always billed to the property owner anyways if you're the contracted plumber and if your pulling a homeowners permit it's the same rate. Always make sure the sewer has 1/8"-1/4" fall, pex lines are 18" from heater nipples, studs have nail plates if a water line goes through it, water lines are strapped, gas cocks for gas lines and ball valves for water lines, drip legs for every gas appliance, expansion tanks on water heaters for closed systems etc. Just follow code and there will be no issue with the inspection.
The should use a Y not a TY. A TY on it's back is illegal
Thank you for your feedback Wayne. The Ontario Building Code doesn’t allow a TY fitting on its back unless it is for venting purposes. The application shown in this video is for clean-out purposes only and will not be receiving waste, so there is no potential of clogging. Also, the installation method meets the intent of the code and makes it easier to access for cleaning.
Not hard to get the permit from the city hall!??? ...gtfo , they all want to pay a profesional plumber for few pipes ..otherwise it won t allow it . Is not hard to read the codes and learn what's permitted and then call the inspector .. nope , gotta pay some grans $$$ for the plumber... ther are poisonous flowers, You don t need permit to be a gardener or to put oil in your car . At the end they sell pipes and plumbing equipment at the store free for public .. why it s a requirment to have aprofetional plumber instead trying yourself and calling inspection later (Just like for roof) it s " interestingly" annoying .