"I'm certain she had my fiance's child and want a dna test." _"I'm_ certain your fiance will leave you if you keep that up." "I don't care." "Neither do I. Suit yourself."
S1: Accusations of cheating are not to be tossed about lightly. So Sandra is insecure, jealous, paranoid, bigoted, and entitled? Quite the proverbial rap-sheet! I'm calling it: she was the one cheating, and projecting. OP doesn't owe this broad squat. Aww the wedding's off? Play the world's smallest violin!
It's also possible Sandra is just an insecure, jealous, paranoid, bigoted and entitled woman who seriously overestimated her influence and position not only with OP but her fiance as well. Either was her ex is far better off with someone else.
Story 1: Is she for real?! No, the wedding is called off, because the groom probably had had enough of the bride's BS! It's not OP who is to blame. I can't believe how this B has the audacity to claim that OP and the fiance MUST have cheated together, and that it MUST be his daughter! And the rest of it? Yikes! I don't blame OP one bit for cutting off the friendship. 20 years, and she honestly doesn't trust you/thinks you would betray her like that?! 🤬🙄
Last story - going on vacation while you have a toddler? Where is her sister getting the money to waste. That extra money should go into getting a place of her own so she can adult.
What got me is where the sister asked OP why she doesn’t want to spend time with her niece. More to the point, why doesn’t the sister want to spend time with HER OWN CHILD?
Story 2: NTA. Perfectly reasonable. You're exes now, you don't need to care what she thinks. You're not being picky or denying contributing. You're just making sure that whatever you pay for the kids gets the benefit from at BOTH places.
The $1000 price tag for that pair gifts is absurd, even if it's Canadian dollars. $500US is more than you need to spend for a good "gaming" chair and a standalone hoop, especially for a 15 year old. I suspect that mom is trying to scam OP.
@@RudesMom i think she is trying to buy a secret lab chair those go for about 600 plus easy. She sounds like she is trying to live like she was when she was married.
I found it amusing that she wanted him to pay half for gifts to be exclusively used at her place. She doesn't pay anything for the things he uses at OP's home but he should make it easier for her to get the gifts she wants to give him so she can avoid spending as much. THEN she accused him of tit-for-tat when that was exactly what she was doing only on OP's dime. Tell me your ex still wants to use you like a 'husband ATM' without telling me.
Family is everything in-Laws story: OP should give MIL her half-bro and his mom's details and tell her to meet up with them and if she can get them to the point where they're willing to apologize and admit that OP's birth circumstances aren't her fault and they were wrong for taking out dad's affair on an innocent child she'll agree to try on her side. But until MIL can achieve such a miracle OP does not need to put herself forward to receive more toxic abuse as she was made to grow up with.
Story 4: NTA. Hugely ironic to me that the most vocal "family is everything" folks are also the least open. Their actions just make me think OP isn't real family to them. My god. I'm glad OP's hubby stands up for her every time.
Story 1: NTA, Sandra is crazy, and has zero understanding of biology. Kids can look like one parent or the other, like a mix of the two, or nothing like either (depending on how the genes mix).
Story one is the perfect example of kicking a gift horse in the mouth. Sandra destroyed her friendship and relationship with her actions. And she can't stand responsibility so she blames OP, because obviously Op is the center of her troubles.
I feel like story 2 OP is overpaying. He is paying for his home, and she will get 50% after he sells. Wow. That is nuts. They bought it 4 years before. He should have found a way to buy her out. Value of house - mortgage amount owed, all that split in half. He probably couldn't have paid it, but this way, she will be getting way more from all the years of appreciation and additional payments when it is eventually sold. Is he paying both child support and into a shared account, or is the child support going into that account. In general, OPs ex needs to stop relying on him financially.
The Family story. NTA. I absolutely love it when ppl tell me how MY family should be and berate me for what it's not. It gives me THE best reason to trauma dump on them. I really hope OPs partner continues to have her back❤
Story 1: "The wedding is off because of you." Ah, the classic deflection of blame, Hallmark of those who lack introspection. I mean, who could have guessed that accusing your fiance and best friend of cheating based on little more than racism would have ended poorly? Who?? Who I say???
£3000!!! Thats a heck of a gift!! What an ingrate!! They should not waste money like that bit if the parents decide to, do not help any of them out any more!!
So entitled, selfish sister is too special to plan ahead for her childcare? Not to mention the fact that she's abandoning her TODDLER for a WEEK?!!! Just to screw around. Really trying for that mom of the year award. I hope the kid doesn't have or develop abandonment issues. Toddlers are usually pretty attached to their moms at that age.
Story one: anyone thinking Sandra cheated and was projecting? Story two: yeah something is not adding up because combined those two gifts shouldn’t equal $1000. I also wonder what the son actually wants for his birthday instead of what is being said what he wants. He may not want a hoop at his moms place. Story three: hopes it’s not too late for OP to cancel the check. Story four: sometimes for something to be healthy, like a family, you have to isolate the rot/toxicity. OP has a healthy family by ridding herself of those who don’t want her. Screw in-laws attempt of playing Hallmark heroes! Last story: I’m glad OP put her foot down because this would’ve become the beginning of the end for OPs life. First step in planning a child free vacation is to make sure the child is handled first. If sis can afford a vacation, she can afford childcare.
@@noneedtoknow07 likely so but I’m thinking this isn’t something the son asked for. I think the wife wanted to have better stuff for the kids and look like the cool parent. That or she planned to return it and pocket the cash.
I know a gaming chair can easily hit quad digits alone if you go with certain brands. Mine was 499 on sale from Secret Labs. A high end hoop from Dicks is 800 ON SALE. 1500 normal cost!
Story2….dont let others take control of your life or checkbook. Give the boy a gift card and let them decide what to buy. Never give away more than $75.00 on a birthday gift.
Story 3: NTA, you get the wedding you can afford, not the wedding of your dreams (unless you can afford it of course). You gave her a super generous wedding gift, and she is so entitled she thinks she can demand more.
Isn’t it astonishing how many OPs on here, who have made the best choices in life and make a good living, have siblings/relatives who have done the complete opposite and think they’re entitled to the OP’s money? If the parents are willing to remortgage their home to finance the sister’s wedding, after they tried and failed to get OP to pay, then we know where the sister learned her poor choices from.
i don't get why people don't spend longer to save if you want a certain wedding, i also prefer a courthouse but apparently my older brother can marry people because he is a judge so i might even be able to save money on that lol
Story 2: NTA, $1000 for a basketball hoop and computer chair? That is insane, a good gaming chair is $100-$200, and a basketball hoop is also $100-$200. So what does she intend to spend the other $600-$800 on? Plus her restriction that he only be able to use his gifts at her place is insane. You should both be buying separate gifts for your child.
Maybe she was saying it was $1000, so if he contributes $500 for the gift, she will buy it for less than that and say it was from both of them when it was really just him.
My siblings and I paid for our part in any wedding party we were asked to be a part of and then gave $100 over the cost of our plates including a plus one. That’s it!! P.S. remind the sister how much she contributed to your wedding!!
That family in the fourth story obviously don’t know the difference between families being flawed and families being bad? It’s mind boggling why the siblings don’t hold the father accountable for his cheating.
I was actually just imagining how I would've slapped her if she'd said that to me. Catty and dramatic? Sure. But so is falsely accusing your best friend of sleeping with your fiance with no basis or foundation whatsoever save for a few idiotic misconceptions about biology.
Story 1: NTA. Ohhhh Sandra. Women from EVERYWHERE are "more likely to do that" lololol. That said, its like I always say. Insecurity or fear is one thing, an accusation is another. She accused, she got it wrong, now she has to sit with the consequences of that. Mandatory paternity tests would solve all the stories of this kind, but society isn't ready for that conversation.
Story 2: sounds like she is trying to buy a secret lab chair and a expensive hoop. That can bring you to 1000 easy. Wife and that commentor projecting need to understand the term live within your means. Wife must really be rethinking her life now that she is broke.
S1 ,Op your former friend accused her fiancee of cheating with you because you come from the same country . Op your husband is a keeper for pretending along with what your former friend accused you of until she outed herself as insecure about her relationship with her former fiancee and now that they have destroyed any chance of repairing the damage they caused the flying monkeys are circling around you , Op the best way to stop them is to tell the truth about what happened on social media sites that you both have friends on .NTA
S3 , Op there are venues who provide everything that a wedding day requires except the official and the clothes ,it's called the full package and as everything is included in the price even the catering it keeps the costs down .NTA
Story 2: Ex-wife can a afford a 3-bedroom beach house but not a basket hoop or a gaming chair? The maths on that isn't working for me. Story 3: I hate people who try to mend other people's relationships because they think they know better than the actual people involved, and life has a happy Hallmark movie ending for everybody. I have no patience with them and get angry very fast.
Op probably knows that if she says yes it will not just be that week, anytime her parents can't watch the kid they feel she should be obligated to watch her, also what if the sister comes back pregnant again
Story 3 3k$ is a very generous wedding gift. With 3k we would have been able to pay our entire wedding and OP‘s sister wants a dress more expensive than that. Talk about champagne taste on a beer budget.
S2 , Op you could ask your children what they want for their birthday presents as they are old enough to decide on what they really want now and what a 15 year old teenager needs is something that's he's interested in such as annual football tickets , basketball tickets or any thing to do with his hobbies or activities in daily life . Your ex-wife can't afford to buy a big expensive present for your son but if it comes from what he's interested in and from the heart your son will love it even if it's a small present .NTA
Story 3: NTA. The sign of a mature woman/couple is living within your means. You know how many couples get engaged and then wait YEARS for the wedding because they cant afford it? Sister is being immature and entitled. Do not contribute more than you want. I certainly hope your parents dont either.
The first story is wild. My mum and I look like twins the only difference is my face shape. We even have a similar voice because people thought I was my mum when I answered calls.
dang, my dream wedding is me and the guy who likes me enough to marry me. maybe have my parents and brother there, but other than that, we could wear paper bags and eat subway for all I care
You have the right attitude! Two of the biggest weddings I went to ended in divorce. "The Day" is only a nice send off to what's supposed to be a lifelong journey. People who want big weddings just to flex, but who haven't really thought out major goals, are going to be sorely disappointed.
My entire wedding cost $3000. If someone gifted that to me I'd be ecstatic. I can't even imagine getting gifted $3000 and being upset it wasn't enough. That's crazy to me.
Story 4: NTA. You didnt say anything mean or judgmental to them, it is well within your right to tell them to back off. Not all family can be trusted or should be valued, TRUST me. Some branches on that tree just die out. I think the in-laws hearts are in the right place, but their minds certainly aren't.
Story 1: NTA. Oh really? YOU ruined her wedding? Not the fact that she accused her supposed friend and partner of having an affair on account of “You people”!?!
Story 4: NTA, in your case being NC is the only "healthy" relationship you can have with your bio-family. You are the innocent victim of your fathers idiocy and crappy parenting (AKA not standing up for you). Oddly you sound like you grew up to be a pretty great person.
Story 3: Sister called of a *witch* is enough reason to never do anything for her again. Those aren't just empty words. They express how people view and respect/disrespect others. make sure sis knows that is and WHY. If (when) she ever wants anything from OP in the future - she has to record herself admitting, she is an entitled little brat and the only *witch* in the family - then put video online for a month before OP helps her.
Sandra ruined her own life by accusing her now ex fiancé and her friend of cheating, then excusing her paranoia by insulting op and the women from her home country. Story 2: NTA. Op is compensating more than required for his ex. She’s on government assistance, yet bought a beach house? Story 3: NTA. Sis has a Lamborghini taste with the income for a PINTO and expects to bankrupt her entire family for it when she won’t get a better job. Story 4: NTA. In-laws should’ve left it alone. If you don’t understand what it’s like to grow up in a broken family, then shut up. Story 5: NTA. Why would you book a vacation without ensuring proper childcare was in place? OP’s not responsible for this
Story 2: NTA. She has a beach front property and yet she doesn’t she you asking her to have bags of sand lugged to your home. She wants things to be even? Tell your Son to stop moving his X-Box around. He shouldn’t be doing that anyway, gaming consoles can break easily.
I just got a new gaming chair and it cost me tops $200. Either the ex is pocketing the difference or she's getting some kind of exorbitant designer gaming chair
story number one! The wedding is off because your ex friend is a total..... terrible human being!! I would block her from everything and never speak to her again!! I would shun her like shunning is a new Olympic sport and you're going for a GOLD🥇starting with her!!😤 2:14
Babysitting Your Neice. Not your monkeys, not your circus. Also, don't set yourself on fire to keep someone else warm. Plus, if sis drops Neice off with you anyway without notice, call CPS. And make sure sis knows this.
Lets call it as it is. Most weddings are not weddings they are princess days. They have to be called wedding because no one would come to a princess day after you are 5.
Story 1: NTA and op isn’t wrong here . Story 2: NTA and op isn’t wrong but the wife sucks. Story 3: NTA and op isn’t wrong Story 4: NTA Story 5: NTA and I wouldn’t babysit for a pathetic grouch
Wedding story: Ugh, why do people try to blow what amounts to years of them doing heavy saving on a single day, and wanting family to float the cost? Like why would anyone think 'oh my sib makes significantly more than me so surely they'll give me a good chunk of money so I can have a luxury level wedding'. Like most of these stories they don't even have all that good a relationship with their sibling so why do they expect they'd be willing to fork over so much of their own money to them? It just boggles the mind...
My sisters made my wedding dress, we had finger food trays and a cake from the grocery store and my brother actually paid the $20 to the minister and $40 to the organist. It was a family affair and lovely!
Story 4: Oh look, OP escaped the mistreatment of one family, now she gets to be mistreated in a whole new way by a new victim-blaming family. Disgraceful.
If Sister was going out of town on a work trip then while OP still wouldn't be the AH for not wanting to watch her niece. I'd have advised her to work out some kind of compromise with the parents. Like she watched the kid for an hour or two then help pay for a sitter. But just a vacation? No, sister can figure out something herself.
Why sister is demanding nice wedding when her and fiancée can’t afford it, demanding sister to pay for it, because she can afford it, that fiancee should run, that demand for that rich fancy wedding she is demanding she CANT EVEN BEGIN TO AFFORD, but thinks she should have it, IS JUST THE BEGINNING.. op’s sisters fiancee should run!!
Wedding gift story. OP you aren't the idiot but your parents are. Don't bail out your patents when they come to you for help with their retirement because they gave sis all that money.
Story 2: Not the idiot. The ex wife is using emotional blackmail and trying to buy her son’s love with her ex husband’s wallet (and pocket the vast difference). OP already pays 100% for a house that his ex will get 50% of the sale proceeds. Plus he pays child support and such.
Final Story: NTA. I don’t know if anyone told her but Toddlers are a handful and a half. Sure it would be nice, but not really anything most people casually sign up for.
Story 5: NTA, her kid, her responsibility. She asked (well technically your mom asked) if you were willing, and you said no, end of story. It really doesn't matter the reasoning, a two year old is a lot of work, especially for someone who has never watch a child for an extended time. I also assume you were not going to be paid for this either...Which is another strike against her.
Story2: easy solution: just give the kid the appropriate cash amount as a gift and let him decide what he wants. Also $1000 is way too much for a 15 year olds birthday (especially if mom is on Gov't assistance). What is this gaming chair and basketball hoop made out of, PURE GOLD? Just give the kid $100-200 in cash and tell mom to come up with her own gift.
Story 1: either sandra cheated and is projecting her own guilt onto situations which dont apply, or her bf cheated in the past and shes now suspicious of everyone around her.
There was a reddit post once where a white couple actually conceived a black child (Turned out there had been some infidelity going on at some point involving a black guy somewhere on the husband's side.).
Story 1…. Not the idiot Never trust her again. Do not let her use your property either. Her family might try to destroy it. The fiancé was angry too for being accused of cheating. This friend is mentally ill.
Patel sister you did damn good to get $3,000 out of me and remember my name and lose my number as for mommy and daddy with all due respect you can take out 30 mortgage on your home to give a big wedding I'll not be there and I love you both!!and Mommy and Daddy had no right no right to get angry with you or to demand more money for your sister's wedding if you can't afford a big fancy wedding have a nice intimate wedding have what you can afford she works at a store old man or future husband he's working in construction construction gets paid pretty well go to his side of the family for a while!!
Is sweetie your parents will mortgage their house and they will help your sister why because they love her more show on this thread tell them exactly how bad they appear to everybody else. Then cancel the check you gave your sister or just let your sister know she's ruining her Mom and Dad's life and it's going to be on her cuz you're not stepping in you tell them the same
story 1 the wedding is off because she accused her fiancé of cheating with one of those loose women from "his country"
I smell projection from that one!
Someone needs to explain to Sandra how babies are made so she learns that intimacy is required and geography is not.
Her fiance realized how racist she is and how insane. He dodged a bullet there. I mean what would happen if they had a daughter who looked like him?
@@DrownedInExile Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
Why is she freaking out trying to find any excuse to prove he's cheating?
Very suspicious 🤨
"Women from your country is more likely to do that"
O.o ..... bruh
I dread to think what would have happened if they stayed together and had a daughter who looked like him. 😬
@@paulagoeringer9466 Probably accuse op that her race is part spider and laid eggs inside her.
"I'm certain she had my fiance's child and want a dna test."
_"I'm_ certain your fiance will leave you if you keep that up."
"I don't care."
"Neither do I. Suit yourself."
Basketball hoop and gaming chair story: Ask the son what he wants.
S1: Accusations of cheating are not to be tossed about lightly. So Sandra is insecure, jealous, paranoid, bigoted, and entitled? Quite the proverbial rap-sheet! I'm calling it: she was the one cheating, and projecting. OP doesn't owe this broad squat. Aww the wedding's off? Play the world's smallest violin!
It's also possible Sandra is just an insecure, jealous, paranoid, bigoted and entitled woman who seriously overestimated her influence and position not only with OP but her fiance as well. Either was her ex is far better off with someone else.
Story1: The wedding isn't off because OP pulled the venue. It's off because Sandra accused her boyfriend of cheating on her and rightly left her.
And he found out that he was about to marry a racist along with someone quick to accuse him of cheating
Story 1: Is she for real?! No, the wedding is called off, because the groom probably had had enough of the bride's BS! It's not OP who is to blame. I can't believe how this B has the audacity to claim that OP and the fiance MUST have cheated together, and that it MUST be his daughter! And the rest of it? Yikes! I don't blame OP one bit for cutting off the friendship. 20 years, and she honestly doesn't trust you/thinks you would betray her like that?! 🤬🙄
Oh, and don’t forget the racist comment that the friend made😠
Story one
Why should Andre want to marry someone who has no trust in him?
The wedding was off before the test results came back.
Last story - going on vacation while you have a toddler? Where is her sister getting the money to waste. That extra money should go into getting a place of her own so she can adult.
What got me is where the sister asked OP why she doesn’t want to spend time with her niece. More to the point, why doesn’t the sister want to spend time with HER OWN CHILD?
Story 2: NTA. Perfectly reasonable. You're exes now, you don't need to care what she thinks. You're not being picky or denying contributing. You're just making sure that whatever you pay for the kids gets the benefit from at BOTH places.
The $1000 price tag for that pair gifts is absurd, even if it's Canadian dollars. $500US is more than you need to spend for a good "gaming" chair and a standalone hoop, especially for a 15 year old. I suspect that mom is trying to scam OP.
@@RudesMom i think she is trying to buy a secret lab chair those go for about 600 plus easy. She sounds like she is trying to live like she was when she was married.
@@reverserioexactly this!
You can buy both a gaming chair and a basketball hoop for under $300. Makes me wonder why she wants $500.
It is $1000. I think the presents are for herself and I would be asking the son how much of the child support is actually spent on him.
@@stephaniewilson3955 unless I heard wrong, she wanted $500 from him. The total gift was $1000 and they were supposed to split the cost.
@@dizzysdoings Maybe she didn't have money and tried to bank on OP not saying anything that he actually paid for the presents and not his ex wife.
Buy presents by yourself. You dont need to buy them together. Get something he actually wants.
Exactly! The only person providing gift ideas is the birthday boy
Right! She also needs to get a full time job instead of a part-time and government assistance.
I found it amusing that she wanted him to pay half for gifts to be exclusively used at her place. She doesn't pay anything for the things he uses at OP's home but he should make it easier for her to get the gifts she wants to give him so she can avoid spending as much.
THEN she accused him of tit-for-tat when that was exactly what she was doing only on OP's dime. Tell me your ex still wants to use you like a 'husband ATM' without telling me.
Just give your son some money so he can buy what he wants and use it where ever he wants
@@robertx8020 I get the feeling mommy dearest will confiscate whatever he buys and keeps it at her house.
Family is everything in-Laws story: OP should give MIL her half-bro and his mom's details and tell her to meet up with them and if she can get them to the point where they're willing to apologize and admit that OP's birth circumstances aren't her fault and they were wrong for taking out dad's affair on an innocent child she'll agree to try on her side. But until MIL can achieve such a miracle OP does not need to put herself forward to receive more toxic abuse as she was made to grow up with.
Wedding Drama: OP’s sister must be the parents’ golden child if they’re willing to take out a second mortgage to pay for her wedding😒
First story : Absolutely NTA OP! This woman is not your friend and you have no obligation to her whatsoever.
Story 4: NTA. Hugely ironic to me that the most vocal "family is everything" folks are also the least open. Their actions just make me think OP isn't real family to them. My god. I'm glad OP's hubby stands up for her every time.
Story 1: NTA, Sandra is crazy, and has zero understanding of biology. Kids can look like one parent or the other, like a mix of the two, or nothing like either (depending on how the genes mix).
Last story: OP needs to threaten to call CPS since sister puts her own needs way above her child's. Mental abuse is still abuse.
Story one is the perfect example of kicking a gift horse in the mouth.
Sandra destroyed her friendship and relationship with her actions. And she can't stand responsibility so she blames OP, because obviously Op is the center of her troubles.
I feel like story 2 OP is overpaying. He is paying for his home, and she will get 50% after he sells. Wow. That is nuts. They bought it 4 years before. He should have found a way to buy her out. Value of house - mortgage amount owed, all that split in half. He probably couldn't have paid it, but this way, she will be getting way more from all the years of appreciation and additional payments when it is eventually sold.
Is he paying both child support and into a shared account, or is the child support going into that account.
In general, OPs ex needs to stop relying on him financially.
The Family story. NTA. I absolutely love it when ppl tell me how MY family should be and berate me for what it's not. It gives me THE best reason to trauma dump on them. I really hope OPs partner continues to have her back❤
Story 1: "The wedding is off because of you." Ah, the classic deflection of blame, Hallmark of those who lack introspection. I mean, who could have guessed that accusing your fiance and best friend of cheating based on little more than racism would have ended poorly? Who?? Who I say???
£3000!!! Thats a heck of a gift!! What an ingrate!! They should not waste money like that bit if the parents decide to, do not help any of them out any more!!
So entitled, selfish sister is too special to plan ahead for her childcare? Not to mention the fact that she's abandoning her TODDLER for a WEEK?!!! Just to screw around. Really trying for that mom of the year award. I hope the kid doesn't have or develop abandonment issues. Toddlers are usually pretty attached to their moms at that age.
Story one: anyone thinking Sandra cheated and was projecting?
Story two: yeah something is not adding up because combined those two gifts shouldn’t equal $1000. I also wonder what the son actually wants for his birthday instead of what is being said what he wants. He may not want a hoop at his moms place.
Story three: hopes it’s not too late for OP to cancel the check.
Story four: sometimes for something to be healthy, like a family, you have to isolate the rot/toxicity. OP has a healthy family by ridding herself of those who don’t want her. Screw in-laws attempt of playing Hallmark heroes!
Last story: I’m glad OP put her foot down because this would’ve become the beginning of the end for OPs life. First step in planning a child free vacation is to make sure the child is handled first. If sis can afford a vacation, she can afford childcare.
There are gaming chairs out there that cost upward of 3000 dollars by themselves.
Gaming chairs are very expensive
Story 1: Yes I would not be surprised if she was cheating.
@@noneedtoknow07 likely so but I’m thinking this isn’t something the son asked for. I think the wife wanted to have better stuff for the kids and look like the cool parent. That or she planned to return it and pocket the cash.
I know a gaming chair can easily hit quad digits alone if you go with certain brands. Mine was 499 on sale from Secret Labs. A high end hoop from Dicks is 800 ON SALE. 1500 normal cost!
Story2….dont let others take control of your life or checkbook. Give the boy a gift card and let them decide what to buy.
Never give away more than $75.00 on a birthday gift.
Story 3: NTA, you get the wedding you can afford, not the wedding of your dreams (unless you can afford it of course). You gave her a super generous wedding gift, and she is so entitled she thinks she can demand more.
I would stop the cheque. And tell her fiance about how she is happy to bankrupt her parents so he needs to watch out.
Isn’t it astonishing how many OPs on here, who have made the best choices in life and make a good living, have siblings/relatives who have done the complete opposite and think they’re entitled to the OP’s money? If the parents are willing to remortgage their home to finance the sister’s wedding, after they tried and failed to get OP to pay, then we know where the sister learned her poor choices from.
If my sister gave me 3 grand I would cry and say it was too much! But I wouldn’t waste more than the cost of a courthouse wedding on a wedding.
i don't get why people don't spend longer to save if you want a certain wedding, i also prefer a courthouse but apparently my older brother can marry people because he is a judge so i might even be able to save money on that lol
Story 2: NTA, $1000 for a basketball hoop and computer chair? That is insane, a good gaming chair is $100-$200, and a basketball hoop is also $100-$200. So what does she intend to spend the other $600-$800 on?
Plus her restriction that he only be able to use his gifts at her place is insane. You should both be buying separate gifts for your child.
Maybe she was saying it was $1000, so if he contributes $500 for the gift, she will buy it for less than that and say it was from both of them when it was really just him.
My siblings and I paid for our part in any wedding party we were asked to be a part of and then gave $100 over the cost of our plates including a plus one. That’s it!!
P.S. remind the sister how much she contributed to your wedding!!
Story 1: The 2nd comment made me laugh. The lion, the Witch and the Audacity 😂
That family in the fourth story obviously don’t know the difference between families being flawed and families being bad? It’s mind boggling why the siblings don’t hold the father accountable for his cheating.
Someone is cheating in that “perfect” family.
"Women from your country are more likely to do that "
And that's the moment i would have swung.
I was actually just imagining how I would've slapped her if she'd said that to me. Catty and dramatic? Sure. But so is falsely accusing your best friend of sleeping with your fiance with no basis or foundation whatsoever save for a few idiotic misconceptions about biology.
Story 1: NTA. Ohhhh Sandra. Women from EVERYWHERE are "more likely to do that" lololol. That said, its like I always say. Insecurity or fear is one thing, an accusation is another. She accused, she got it wrong, now she has to sit with the consequences of that. Mandatory paternity tests would solve all the stories of this kind, but society isn't ready for that conversation.
people with healthy or at least not-horrible families really don't understand how it can be
Story 2: sounds like she is trying to buy a secret lab chair and a expensive hoop. That can bring you to 1000 easy. Wife and that commentor projecting need to understand the term live within your means.
Wife must really be rethinking her life now that she is broke.
story 2 hey OP this might be a bit of a leftfield suggestion but have you considered asking your son what he wants for his birthday?
Gasp! What a shocking idea! (Snicker).
S1 ,Op your former friend accused her fiancee of cheating with you because you come from the same country . Op your husband is a keeper for pretending along with what your former friend accused you of until she outed herself as insecure about her relationship with her former fiancee and now that they have destroyed any chance of repairing the damage they caused the flying monkeys are circling around you , Op the best way to stop them is to tell the truth about what happened on social media sites that you both have friends on .NTA
I would have turned the venue into a business deal . Treat her like a stranger and charge her the original price
S3 , Op there are venues who provide everything that a wedding day requires except the official and the clothes ,it's called the full package and as everything is included in the price even the catering it keeps the costs down .NTA
Story 1" "My friend Sandra and I have known each other for over 20 years."
Which goes to show just how long you can, truly, not really know someone.
Story 2: Ex-wife can a afford a 3-bedroom beach house but not a basket hoop or a gaming chair? The maths on that isn't working for me.
Story 3: I hate people who try to mend other people's relationships because they think they know better than the actual people involved, and life has a happy Hallmark movie ending for everybody. I have no patience with them and get angry very fast.
Wrong story
@@nancyomalley6286 I have a really bad of doing that.
Story 5: NTA. Cmon OP, you dont want to be a free babysitter for your entitled sister to go vay-k? Jeesh, the entitlement.
And if I were OP I would make myself scarce around the house while sister is gone. I see parents trying to pawn the nibling on OP
Op probably knows that if she says yes it will not just be that week, anytime her parents can't watch the kid they feel she should be obligated to watch her, also what if the sister comes back pregnant again
Story 3
3k$ is a very generous wedding gift.
With 3k we would have been able to pay our entire wedding and OP‘s sister wants a dress more expensive than that.
Talk about champagne taste on a beer budget.
S2 , Op you could ask your children what they want for their birthday presents as they are old enough to decide on what they really want now and what a 15 year old teenager needs is something that's he's interested in such as annual football tickets , basketball tickets or any thing to do with his hobbies or activities in daily life . Your ex-wife can't afford to buy a big expensive present for your son but if it comes from what he's interested in and from the heart your son will love it even if it's a small present .NTA
Story 3: NTA. The sign of a mature woman/couple is living within your means. You know how many couples get engaged and then wait YEARS for the wedding because they cant afford it? Sister is being immature and entitled. Do not contribute more than you want. I certainly hope your parents dont either.
And it feels like the sister wants to out do OP but expects it on OPs dime. More expensive wedding and marrying younger.
Why do broke @$$ ppl want to buy gifts worth so much money?
Story 3: NTA. … Yes, you have money. … YOUR money.
The first story is wild. My mum and I look like twins the only difference is my face shape. We even have a similar voice because people thought I was my mum when I answered calls.
dang, my dream wedding is me and the guy who likes me enough to marry me. maybe have my parents and brother there, but other than that, we could wear paper bags and eat subway for all I care
You have the right attitude! Two of the biggest weddings I went to ended in divorce. "The Day" is only a nice send off to what's supposed to be a lifelong journey. People who want big weddings just to flex, but who haven't really thought out major goals, are going to be sorely disappointed.
Mah Special Wedding story: NTA. Tell me sis is the golden child without telling me sis is the golden child.
My entire wedding cost $3000. If someone gifted that to me I'd be ecstatic. I can't even imagine getting gifted $3000 and being upset it wasn't enough. That's crazy to me.
Considering how little the parents had money wise, their younger daughter still managed to be a SPOILED BRAT!
Story 4: NTA. You didnt say anything mean or judgmental to them, it is well within your right to tell them to back off. Not all family can be trusted or should be valued, TRUST me. Some branches on that tree just die out. I think the in-laws hearts are in the right place, but their minds certainly aren't.
I don’t think even their hearts are in the right place or else they would listen to and respect OP.
Story 1: NTA. Oh really? YOU ruined her wedding? Not the fact that she accused her supposed friend and partner of having an affair on account of “You people”!?!
Story 4: NTA, in your case being NC is the only "healthy" relationship you can have with your bio-family. You are the innocent victim of your fathers idiocy and crappy parenting (AKA not standing up for you). Oddly you sound like you grew up to be a pretty great person.
Story 3: Sister called of a *witch* is enough reason to never do anything for her again. Those aren't just empty words. They express how people view and respect/disrespect others. make sure sis knows that is and WHY. If (when) she ever wants anything from OP in the future - she has to record herself admitting, she is an entitled little brat and the only *witch* in the family - then put video online for a month before OP helps her.
Sandra ruined her own life by accusing her now ex fiancé and her friend of cheating, then excusing her paranoia by insulting op and the women from her home country.
Story 2: NTA. Op is compensating more than required for his ex. She’s on government assistance, yet bought a beach house?
Story 3: NTA. Sis has a Lamborghini taste with the income for a PINTO and expects to bankrupt her entire family for it when she won’t get a better job.
Story 4: NTA. In-laws should’ve left it alone. If you don’t understand what it’s like to grow up in a broken family, then shut up.
Story 5: NTA. Why would you book a vacation without ensuring proper childcare was in place? OP’s not responsible for this
story number two. why are you responsible for furnishing your ex-wife's home with anything⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️
Ex wife is the future sister from Story 3! Another entitled brat!
If you can't afford to get married then you can't afford to be married
Story 2: NTA. She has a beach front property and yet she doesn’t she you asking her to have bags of sand lugged to your home. She wants things to be even? Tell your Son to stop moving his X-Box around. He shouldn’t be doing that anyway, gaming consoles can break easily.
What?? Again, the second story? Mate yr ex missus is RIPPING you off to do with the house.
I just got a new gaming chair and it cost me tops $200. Either the ex is pocketing the difference or she's getting some kind of exorbitant designer gaming chair
Happy Friday!!
story number one! The wedding is off because your ex friend is a total..... terrible human being!! I would block her from everything and never speak to her again!! I would shun her like shunning is a new Olympic sport and you're going for a GOLD🥇starting with her!!😤 2:14
Story 2: It's not one parent's responsibility to furnish the other's home. Period.
Babysitting Your Neice. Not your monkeys, not your circus. Also, don't set yourself on fire to keep someone else warm.
Plus, if sis drops Neice off with you anyway without notice, call CPS. And make sure sis knows this.
Story 1: Maybe Sandra can’t have babies so she went mad with jealousy that OP had a baby ???
She's jealous that OP even exists!
Lets call it as it is. Most weddings are not weddings they are princess days. They have to be called wedding because no one would come to a princess day after you are 5.
Story 1: NTA and op isn’t wrong here .
Story 2: NTA and op isn’t wrong but the wife sucks.
Story 3: NTA and op isn’t wrong
Story 4: NTA
Story 5: NTA and I wouldn’t babysit for a pathetic grouch
Wedding story: Ugh, why do people try to blow what amounts to years of them doing heavy saving on a single day, and wanting family to float the cost? Like why would anyone think 'oh my sib makes significantly more than me so surely they'll give me a good chunk of money so I can have a luxury level wedding'. Like most of these stories they don't even have all that good a relationship with their sibling so why do they expect they'd be willing to fork over so much of their own money to them? It just boggles the mind...
My sisters made my wedding dress, we had finger food trays and a cake from the grocery store and my brother actually paid the $20 to the minister and $40 to the organist. It was a family affair and lovely!
Story 4: Oh look, OP escaped the mistreatment of one family, now she gets to be mistreated in a whole new way by a new victim-blaming family. Disgraceful.
First story; She ruined her OWN relationship.
If Sister was going out of town on a work trip then while OP still wouldn't be the AH for not wanting to watch her niece. I'd have advised her to work out some kind of compromise with the parents. Like she watched the kid for an hour or two then help pay for a sitter. But just a vacation? No, sister can figure out something herself.
Good morning XO!
Why sister is demanding nice wedding when her and fiancée can’t afford it, demanding sister to pay for it, because she can afford it, that fiancee should run, that demand for that rich fancy wedding she is demanding she CANT EVEN BEGIN TO AFFORD, but thinks she should have it, IS JUST THE BEGINNING.. op’s sisters fiancee should run!!
Yup! Caviar taste on a Taco Bell budget! The sister is delulu!
I'm guessing the sister will come back from her holiday with another baby on the way. These selfish cows don't learn.
Wedding gift story. OP you aren't the idiot but your parents are. Don't bail out your patents when they come to you for help with their retirement because they gave sis all that money.
The brother is not responsible for his sister wedding
They're both sisters
Story 2: Not the idiot. The ex wife is using emotional blackmail and trying to buy her son’s love with her ex husband’s wallet (and pocket the vast difference). OP already pays 100% for a house that his ex will get 50% of the sale proceeds. Plus he pays child support and such.
Nta. She can get a better job. You do not need to pay for her stuff. Your parents can pay for it. Screw them. Do not pay and do not bail them out
Final Story: NTA. I don’t know if anyone told her but Toddlers are a handful and a half. Sure it would be nice, but not really anything most people casually sign up for.
Paternity tests can only be demanded by the man (or i guess men) who is/are being called the father...
😊Hi XO!😊 #1 TODAY
Story 5: NTA, her kid, her responsibility. She asked (well technically your mom asked) if you were willing, and you said no, end of story. It really doesn't matter the reasoning, a two year old is a lot of work, especially for someone who has never watch a child for an extended time.
I also assume you were not going to be paid for this either...Which is another strike against her.
Story2: easy solution: just give the kid the appropriate cash amount as a gift and let him decide what he wants. Also $1000 is way too much for a 15 year olds birthday (especially if mom is on Gov't assistance). What is this gaming chair and basketball hoop made out of, PURE GOLD? Just give the kid $100-200 in cash and tell mom to come up with her own gift.
Wedding
Tell your parents how disappointed you are they didn’t provide for either kids wedding….
Ex wife:
Ex is………….ex. Who cares what she says
Story 1: either sandra cheated and is projecting her own guilt onto situations which dont apply, or her bf cheated in the past and shes now suspicious of everyone around her.
Story 1: OPs kid shouldn’t look like her exact copy? Excuse? I thought OP was the one who shared genetics with her daughter.
There was a reddit post once where a white couple actually conceived a black child (Turned out there had been some infidelity going on at some point involving a black guy somewhere on the husband's side.).
Story 2 NTA she will trying to shake down OP because vshes to lazy to get a full time job. Disgusting
last story the response is do you want her alive at the end of your trip or can you just make another if the worst happens
The second story, the OP, is most assuredly *NOT* the arsehole. The ex is.
And take $3000.00 back
If it was a check, I hope OP stopped payment on it!
Story 1…. Not the idiot
Never trust her again. Do not let her use your property either. Her family might try to destroy it.
The fiancé was angry too for being accused of cheating.
This friend is mentally ill.
Patel sister you did damn good to get $3,000 out of me and remember my name and lose my number as for mommy and daddy with all due respect you can take out 30 mortgage on your home to give a big wedding I'll not be there and I love you both!!and Mommy and Daddy had no right no right to get angry with you or to demand more money for your sister's wedding if you can't afford a big fancy wedding have a nice intimate wedding have what you can afford she works at a store old man or future husband he's working in construction construction gets paid pretty well go to his side of the family for a while!!
What a strange strage story?
Tell them to back off and you DO NOT entertain any conversation regarding family
Is sweetie your parents will mortgage their house and they will help your sister why because they love her more show on this thread tell them exactly how bad they appear to everybody else. Then cancel the check you gave your sister or just let your sister know she's ruining her Mom and Dad's life and it's going to be on her cuz you're not stepping in you tell them the same
last story: the last comment i agree with most of it except the part that scumb bag called the child an "it"
1. You and my husband look similar. Your kid looks like you who looks like my husband this means you must be a cheating together... Logic. NTI.