Was literally about to comment this, think of developed nations where this would never happen, Hungary, Poland, Japan, South Korea....hmmm wonder why not? 🤔
London: "A splendid example of how different people can rub along together"... Yes, it's been a (mostly) peaceful ethnic cleansing of the indigenous population, so far...
You live in a country that had a 400 year multiracial and multicultural empire and you're surprised that its present population reflects that diversity?... What do they teach you in school about your history?...
@@kay2kin92 Nonsense argument. The people who came to the uk, did so as commonwealth citizens and they were actually invited to come by the UK itself. And such people have made a great contribution in rebuilding the country after the war. Same happened in France.
@@kh-fk3ko I heard that Sweden is the country in Europe with the highest proportion of migrants, is a quintissential example of a liberally minded social democracy and the police there are faced with 38.000 young, incredibly violent gangsters and the society there has degenerated. What did you hear?
@@GailPlatt You are quite right. My wife is Swedish and I have been visiting the country for 30 years. I warned my in-laws 25 years ago what would happen, this was based on what I was experiencing in the UK. You were listening correctly. The ignorance displayed above is enormous.
@@adedayooyegunju828 I ask you, if it is so bad for immigrants live in western countries, why they want to come here in the first place? We don't need immigrants... This is all politics!
There is only one solution for the West. Start uplifting Western Civilization. And reproducing the indigenous population. Those who wish to assimilate should be welcomed. Those who choose to separate and use violence need to be deported. Its that simple!
What would happen to the rioters if they tried to do that sort of thing in Saudi? UAE? Turkey? Qatar? Or any other country which shares their ideology? We don't have to guess/speculate because we actually do know - all those countries have immigrant populations from the same countries as France - and they know there is zero tolerance for violent dissent there. They do it for three reasons: 1. Their Ideology demands that they conquer other lands and spread the ideology 2. They're encouraged to do it (by NGOs etc) 3. They can get away with it
Take it or leave it. We are watching the steady destruction of our country and our future , Quite why our Political elite is turning a blind eye is even more Curious…. Just my personal feelings here …
I've come here to hear the boomer takes. To think that we're better off in the UK compared to continental Europe is ludicrous. The problem we have in the UK is that we're putting up with a lot of crap of that sort (we harbour the worst islamists in Europe, we had the grooming gang scandal, and there is latent Black nationalism) and the authorities and politicians continue to ignore the problems and pretend multiculturalism is wonderful. Multiculturalism is not wonderful for the indigenous British people, particularly the English, whose culture is either demonised or derided. Multiculturalism is nothing the UK should be proud of.
Angela Merkel and David Cameron both announced that multiculturalism had failed, around ten years ago. Interesting that we became far more multicultural after that.
Agreed. Authoritarianism is diversity's needed glue. The only reason we don't have riots is because the hostile elements are taking over through state approval.
It's not rocket science, is it? Why can't ANYBODY speak about the elephant in the room? It's been suicidal to open the borders of Europe, but it seems that nobody has the integrity to say so. Europe and the UK is finished with, and not going to be the same again. Greetings from Hertfordshire.
I swear Andrew Neil is losing it...he mentions Leicester as a positive example of a multicultural UK city....I live in Leicester...last summer the city was under something like martial lsw because of mass fights between Muslim and Hindu youths .... Neil needs to get out more...from his ivory tower...
He lives in the south of France and has done since the 90s. He is sorely out of touch about life in the UK and how things have changed in places like Leicester in the last 25 years.
So you were in Leicester during the battles between Moslems and Hindus then? I live in London and there was a news blackout, didn’t even know they were on. We are sleepwalking into eradication.
These people are utterly shielded from almost all the problems caused by trying to absorb mass immigration. They live in a bubble which doesn't include places like Rochdale, or many of the other coagulations of immigration.
My father was from Leicester and moved away in the 60’s because he saw what was coming. He is heartbroken at what they have done to his city. He never goes back now. The UN and the WEF would have every city in the UK like this. They want to destroy us.
Britain is part of Europe and boy it riots as well. Recall the running riots in a dozen British cities with exemplary sentences from magistrates, and before that the abomination of Broadwater Farm where a police constable was decapitated. Also, try reporting the horrific violence in British cities entirely unreported by the BBC as usual.
Most who's doing wreck is minority support by left you give inch they want mile. Macron is arrogant coward who's married with grandma just cruel with his owned peoplesike scum fascist trudeu
@@jordan3405It's not completely different. The main difference is how the British politco-media establishment treats issues around race and identity. The BBC is far more adapt at demonising Brits. brainwashing the populace and suppressing politically inconvenient facts. The French media is freer and tells the unvarnished truth.
There's a lot of unrest under the surface in the UK. 8 miles from me, a drunk/drugged up? driver mowed down ten people attending a carnival. About 18 miles away, Y11 students from local secondary schools attending a taster day in a sixth-form college went on the rampage, damaged toilets, graffitied walls and stole dangerous chemicals from a lab, which they then threw in a girl's face. That's just what I've heard of. Not everything gets reported, given the parlous state of local journalism. I'm from a town in Rochdale met. borough. I didn't know Roch. was a city.
@@doodlebrighton124 Aren't there mandatory vaccines for children in the UK? American children must be fully vaccinated prior to starting kindergarten. Mandatory vaccines in California are: Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis (DTaP) Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR) Hepatitis B. Varicella (Chickenpox)
@@anthonydowney6069 The criteria were not relaxed at all. The only thing that was cut back was the time between waiting for results and waiting for regulatory approvals. The science and safety measures proceeded as per usual--that's why Trump couldn't force the approvals before the election. They had to be done per scientific protocol.
Europeans riot and there will be a grievance behind it. But Islam stokes the grievances and sets out the villains before the riot even begins. What I'm saying if your a poor Muslim you might well turn to your Imam for support, and they will preach Islam, not Christianity.
For God’s sake! Some idiot in Sweden burns a Quran and idiots in London start wetting the bed. We all know the problem. We need to address it! Treat them the way they understand.
@@janegardener1662 He was an unqualified driver who had been driving dangerously when he was stopped. It could easily be argued that he was an imminent threat to all road users in his vicinity. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.
@@andylewis7360 To shoot someone to death isn't the answer. The officer could have called for back up and had the driver cornered to stop him, or just taken his license number and arrested him when he got home.
@@janegardener1662 And if this dumb kid had lost control and driven into a crowd the officer would have been criticised for not preventing him. Get real. The kid deserved what he got Neither you nor I know the exact circumstances but one thing I do know is that no peaceful country deserves to be trashed by unemployed louts just because some out-of-control teenager gets what was coming to him all along.
@@patricksweeney5308 I watched the video, the policeman was standing next to the car, not in front of it. He shot the driver right as the vehicle started to leave.
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W B Yates.
There seems to be no consequences for rioters and looters ever. I'd like to sue the rioters and their relatives who destroyed Detroit back in the 60s for reparations. We must start demanding reparations from these communities for their insatiable violence and destruction they cause to normal people's lives. Reparation are the only answer. If they don't have the cash then they and their relatives can be indentured servants until they pay off their debts to normal people. Hopefully this will build up a work ethic and structure in them.
"I'd like to sue the rioters and their relatives who destroyed Detroit back in the 60s" "If they don't have the cash then they and their relatives can be indentured servants" This juxtaposition is actually mental You acknowledge these are violent people and relatives of violent people. In your own words "insatiable." And you want to give them access to your home?
Hm, Ghetto. He was talking to please a certain imagined audience. But to overlook being that glib, when we have in very recent history, the Warsaw Ghetto, it's wishy washy talk as per. Don't forget the nonsensical claim, Britain fist created concentration camps, in Af----. That is a,.., 'fun fantasy', so many of an ill, bent, love.
The way to solve this problem is to listen to the indigenous British population. They have been quite clear. These two don’t even mention they’re wishes.
We don’t matter. We are scorched earth and we don’t matter. We can’t just rock up at another country and claim to be supported but it’s fully expected of us to support these people. It’s enraging. We are second class citizens in our own country.
The central problem is the raising inequality due to neo-con liberal policies. In Germany, just like in France, it's basically the better-offs, the upper middle class, who are happy to open up the country for more migrants, while not giving a damn about the deterioration of the social net for everyone else. They completely accept and even support the ghettoization that follows from the simple fact that the migrants will move to the poorest regions, which keeps them away from their nice gated communities. This destroys the fabric of society, foremost in some less wealthy cities in conflicts among the "underclass", while it all makes the mostly protected "educated classes" feel ever better about themselves, as is often expressed in their virtuous politically correct speeches, and in all the huffing and puffing identity politics culture war "against the right-wing". It is them who are triggering the backlash that now inflames Europe. At the same time they continue to be the best and most loyal vassals of the US to fight against Russia to the last Ukrainian. It's a sad story, but it looks more and more like Europe has to first go up in flames before the so-called "progressive" elite begins to have some doubt and tries to think again how the Ukraine war can be stopped other than by more weapons and more war - and ultimately WW3, but by actual peace negotiations.
Japan managed to culturally transform and adopt Western technology, fashion, and art without importing millions of westerners. We, however, couldn't experience a curry dish without importing millions and ethnically transforming all our cities.
Spectator, you have a problem with your audio! The two guests can be heard very well but Kate's commentary is almost inaudible. This is not the first time that your uploads have this issue!
Ghetto is not an Americanism. It originated in Venice in the 1500s when jews were only permitted to live in a certain area of the City. The Nazis used the term when they herded the Jews of Warsaw together in a walled up portion of the City where they were starved to death, the survivors being eventually shipped off to the death camps. People with incompatible cultures, customs and religions are located in ghettos, its a long standing European tradition.
I totally agree with your comment. A. Neill and J. Miller´s take of the current riots in France sounds nonchalant, even frivolous. Yes, Spectator should do much better.
The idea of multiculturalism is about 200 years before it's time. There are too many differences that are irreconcilable to my mind. Multiculturalism isn't what it says on the tin at all, it just leads to parallel societies living in disgust of each other. In the West its become even more pathogenic because the prevailing wind is blowing against the majority populations forced to absorb these cultures. This can ONLY lead to disaster.
It is typical that Andrew Neil puts the previous demonstrations by the French on the same page as this violent one by the huge immigrant community. Well, the leading brains of consecutive French (just like British) governments filled up the country with immigrants to ensure a safe supply for the much idolised multicultural paradise. Have a look at ‘The 15 safest countries to live in’ . All of them have no or hardly any immigration. France, Germany and Britain say daily prayers for these unfortunate 15 countries deprived of the blessings of a multicultural paradise.
13:14 "the idea of a national eruption is improbable in Britain compared to..." A lot of people seem to have short memories. Was the summer of 2011 really that long ago?
Completely agree with the assessment who lived in Germany and moved to Britain. I was held back with the racism but are thriving in a great country like Britain.
I was working in Southall in west London today and it was like stepping into little India. Every shop was Indian and I counted very few white people on the street. But it was bustling! It was clean, it was friendly and not at all intimidating. The people I spoke to were delightful, hard-working and prosperous.
Quite a contrast, then, to the subcontinental jihadists in Paris, Rochdale, Manchester... Perhaps the people you describe would be better off bustling back in Asia, where they belong, and where the welfare state operates a little differently.
And you loved it so much that you decided to move there? And what about those of us whose ancestry is rooted in Southall? We should just accept being replaced because you fancied an exotic afternoon trip?
As a resident of Southall, it has the worst record for litter and fly-tipping in London. I can see piles of it from my window now. It also has a high crime rate that is 89% above the national average. So you're clearly telling lies. Further, what has your personal experience got to do with anything? How does events in France relate to your short trip?
Now, based on broad empirical observations; unlike most other European countries, the French foreign service’s approach to democracy still retains a healthy amount of influence from both its monarchial and pre-World War roots. Non-French ethnics can have and keep citizenship, but they are de facto forced by the French government and French culture alike to live in the country’s infamous suburb-slums, the banlieues. Currently, the riots which have broken out in Paris (and erupted all over the country at varying degrees) after police killed a 17-year-old male. In In retrospect, when a similar situation occurred in 2005 -- there were also weeks of riots that were terrible. So we cannot be sure if the same will manifest from this situation. But it is worth looking into based on France’s unique demographic situation. Comparatively, the US is no stranger to issues of race, but there are constant conversations on the topic, and members of most minorities are represented throughout all levels of government. The French have not at all begun to figure that out yet. Hence, France deemed their ethnic conflict so extreme they had to redefine what “being French” meant. So whether you were Catalan, Basque, from Paris or Marseille; you were now just French. This made tracking and collecting ethnic data illegal and unconstitutional. So France doesn’t even know how big their racial problem is. As a consequence, they have just essentially institutionalized racism and created massive divides between urban centers and marginalized areas where these “second class citizens” live. Who lacking a proper understanding of the situation has made allocating resources outside of law enforcement a non-starter, further dividing the groups and adding tension to an already unstable situation. With that said, however -- for La France economic and physical security are intertwined with maintaining prestige and the idea that Paris is a serious global player; if France was a private company, we would be discussing this in terms of protecting brand reputation. That French concerns were so ignominiously swept aside by the US and UK, with Australia happily going along, was too great an assault on French perceptions of their global standing to let slide. Consequently, what progress the French have experienced in opening their hearts is largely limited to former imperial subjects who are Christian and who speak (perfect) French. Southeast Asians and especially Algerians most definitely are not feeling the love. Furthermore, it can be observed when gleaned closer, that -- in many ways, the French system takes the two types of racism most prevalent in the United States and applies the worst of both. In the American South, racism takes the form of, “We will mingle, but we are not equal.” In the American North, it is in the vein of, “We are equal, but we will not mingle.” In France, the targets of racism are out of sight and out of mind, consigned to ghettos and at the back of the line as regards government services. worldhistory.quora.com/https-www-quora-com-What-s-going-on-in-France-with-the-big-riots-lately-answer-Abdel-Fudadin?ch=3&oid=117732549&share=a1c3b88a&srid=3q1Rc&target_type=post
'generous welfare state' these people can never understand the traumatic melting pot of life at the bottom of a class based system - they have hovered comfortably above it all - so easy to comment on what you simply do not understand through lived experience.
Do these two gentlemen think that what happened with the sexual abuse of British women of different ethnicities by men from the Punjab and other countries contributes to a feeling that those in power do not care about unrestricted immigration? That anyone is entitled to enter Britain, regardless of criminal history or indication of religious fanaticism? In Canada we have no problems, yet in Europe where Merkel opened up the borders of Germany to anyone and other countries have done the same, there are far more problems with unrestricted immigration. What is wrong with having standards for immigration and for asylum seekers? It’s not about hatred, it is about caring about the people who you represent and the future of the country.
Nothing to do with racial injustice, just the excuse. And the numbers bussing in, the professional 'angry mobs', concerned about racial injustice, that's quite funny. Come on!
Why does it happen? Because it's tolerated. Try it in somewhere like Singapore...they'd be face down in the dirt permanently! But the Singaporeans wouldnt be dumb enough to let them into the xountry in the first place!
A simple explanation: Think of the scenario you see a policar from not from "your" country but your enemy country patrolling your neighborhood ..... this is what the rioters are seeing every day
The problem is weak state and public unable to swallow casualty in law enforcement. Quixotic they don't mind 200,000 casualty in Ukraine for their cause.
Great to have Andrew Neil on as he doesn't talk an bull about politicians having solutions. France and other countries have deep rooted structural issues and they need long term solutions it won't change with plaster fixes. I suspect the issue will be talked about for a while and then fall down the agenda and a few years time we will see more anger, frustration and riots.
Europeans, in the sense of the racial and diverse ethnic groups who are disparaged globally under the collective term "White," were not the ones rioting in France or elsewhere. The people shouting, "fuck France!" and who said that they were there only for the passport and the social welfare were the ones rioting; namely, immigrants and the children of immigrants-primarily from Middle Eastern and African countries. Regardless of whether they are second or third generation "French" citizens, they are not French in the ways that matter most-that of historical, cultural, social, and civic connectedness. The immigrants remain separate, have chosen to remain separate, and are proud to be separate from the ethnic French. The same can be seen in the relationship between immigrants to Germany from similar Third World places and the, as the immigrants call them (quite derisively), "Biodeutsche." Such contingents, especially ones who have become so large that they have established parallel societies adjacent to the (for now) dominant ones of the nations they inhabit, make assimilation impossible. Europe is being changed and, in a larger sense, colonized by these immigrant groups. The failure of ethnic Europeans to realize this and act, swiftly and decisively, will merely serve to prove three things: History is both cyclical and deterministic. Oswald Spengler was a prophet. And Enoch was right.
Build more prisons, more courts , increase police, repeal laws that give human rights, only fighting fire with fire will work, these gangsters feed on weakness.
At least Europeans are engaged with politics. When people are unhappy they go and just demonstrate, its been like this since the French revolution To be French, there is a sense of freedom of expression and assembly which must be protected The French state serves the people unlike here in the UK we are just subjects. We just whinge like the MCC members with England Bazball cricket in reference to Bairstow walking off and getting a stumping. Australia 5-0 ! Anyway in the UK were there not riots in London, Bradford etc ?
Jesus you need to sort the sound out on this channel. Music and adverts burst your eardrums because you have to max the volume to hear the dialogue Do better The world needs to hear what you’re saying
Neil is wrong it will not happen in Poland or Hungary for obvious reasons .
Was literally about to comment this, think of developed nations where this would never happen, Hungary, Poland, Japan, South Korea....hmmm wonder why not? 🤔
correct, we all know the reason
Brillo was the editor for the Economist, a loathsome globalist Rothschild publication which pushes open borders, mass immigration.
Can an American of Polish decent move back to Poland? Asking for a friend.
He was also skirting around the whole Leicester vs Rochdale comparison too.
London: "A splendid example of how different people can rub along together"... Yes, it's been a (mostly) peaceful ethnic cleansing of the indigenous population, so far...
Ask any council about the complaints of filth, rubbish, noise etc etc which are now exponential and like the police they dont bother any more.
Black African and the muslims are like tooth decay..rotting western civilization from the inside surriptiously...
You live in a country that had a 400 year multiracial and multicultural empire and you're surprised that its present population reflects that diversity?...
What do they teach you in school about your history?...
They said "Colonist go home" the question is why did they follow us?
@@kay2kin92
Nonsense argument.
The people who came to the uk, did so as commonwealth citizens and they were actually invited to come by the UK itself.
And such people have made a great contribution in rebuilding the country after the war.
Same happened in France.
It wasn't Europeans rioting in France.
Even after the various bombings, beheadings, stabbings and truck rammings of the last decade or so, I didn't see any Europeans rioting.
Nope, filthy magrabands.
And the "white " British never stood up to the fascist covid measures
Truth bomb.
THIS chatter (ABOVE) is pretty tedious.
What has happened to Sweden is terribly sad and should be taken by all other countries as a warning of the damage a high level of immigration causes.
You didn't listen did you?
@@kh-fk3ko I heard that Sweden is the country in Europe with the highest proportion of migrants, is a quintissential example of a liberally minded social democracy and the police there are faced with 38.000 young, incredibly violent gangsters and the society there has degenerated.
What did you hear?
@@kh-fk3ko I think it is you whom didnt listen
@@GailPlatt You are quite right. My wife is Swedish and I have been visiting the country for 30 years. I warned my in-laws 25 years ago what would happen, this was based on what I was experiencing in the UK. You were listening correctly. The ignorance displayed above is enormous.
@@kh-fk3ko You should have joined the panel of marshmallows!
These two are soft on this issue. Mass deportations and zero tolerance policies are the only practical way to deal with this issue
THESE ARE HICK literati. Out of touch.
@@Orson2u I am not from Europe but the question I always ask is if it is so bad why do you think European countries accept migrants
@@adedayooyegunju828 I ask you, if it is so bad for immigrants live in western countries, why they want to come here in the first place? We don't need immigrants... This is all politics!
@@adedayooyegunju828 The EU presses for it hard. Governments don't protect borders-someone rewards them for it.
There is only one solution for the West. Start uplifting Western Civilization. And reproducing the indigenous population. Those who wish to assimilate should be welcomed. Those who choose to separate and use violence need to be deported. Its that simple!
What would happen to the rioters if they tried to do that sort of thing in Saudi? UAE? Turkey? Qatar? Or any other country which shares their ideology? We don't have to guess/speculate because we actually do know - all those countries have immigrant populations from the same countries as France - and they know there is zero tolerance for violent dissent there.
They do it for three reasons:
1. Their Ideology demands that they conquer other lands and spread the ideology
2. They're encouraged to do it (by NGOs etc)
3. They can get away with it
You say it all as it is. Zero tollerance, we could learn from that but our politicians have sold out to the globalist agender to mix the nations.
They will dead in their owned country and macrom is always joke
Take it or leave it. We are watching the steady destruction of our country and our future , Quite why our Political elite is turning a blind eye is even more Curious…. Just my personal feelings here …
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@@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc yeah, quite often the comments are censored automatically
I've come here to hear the boomer takes. To think that we're better off in the UK compared to continental Europe is ludicrous. The problem we have in the UK is that we're putting up with a lot of crap of that sort (we harbour the worst islamists in Europe, we had the grooming gang scandal, and there is latent Black nationalism)
and the authorities and politicians continue to ignore the problems and pretend multiculturalism is wonderful. Multiculturalism is not wonderful for the indigenous British people, particularly the English, whose culture is either demonised or derided. Multiculturalism is nothing the UK should be proud of.
Angela Merkel and David Cameron both announced that multiculturalism had failed, around ten years ago. Interesting that we became far more multicultural after that.
And the "white " British never stood up to the fascist covid measures
Agreed. Authoritarianism is diversity's needed glue. The only reason we don't have riots is because the hostile elements are taking over through state approval.
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@@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc yeah, don't know why...
The question of why they riot?
Because they can.
And if someone tries to defend themselves, they will be arrested.
Liberalism is destroying the West.
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@@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc Within 5 minutes of posting that I got a warning that it was possible hate speech.
Go figure.
It's not rocket science, is it? Why can't ANYBODY speak about the elephant in the room? It's been suicidal to open the borders of Europe, but it seems that nobody has the integrity to say so. Europe and the UK is finished with, and not going to be the same again. Greetings from Hertfordshire.
I swear Andrew Neil is losing it...he mentions Leicester as a positive example of a multicultural UK city....I live in Leicester...last summer the city was under something like martial lsw because of mass fights between Muslim and Hindu youths .... Neil needs to get out more...from his ivory tower...
He lives in the south of France and has done since the 90s. He is sorely out of touch about life in the UK and how things have changed in places like Leicester in the last 25 years.
So you were in Leicester during the battles between Moslems and Hindus then? I live in London and there was a news blackout, didn’t even know they were on. We are sleepwalking into eradication.
These people are utterly shielded from almost all the problems caused by trying to absorb mass immigration. They live in a bubble which doesn't include places like Rochdale, or many of the other coagulations of immigration.
he wouldnt get paid then would he
My father was from Leicester and moved away in the 60’s because he saw what was coming. He is heartbroken at what they have done to his city. He never goes back now. The UN and the WEF would have every city in the UK like this. They want to destroy us.
When asked the question were there too many migrants in the UK,
7% said no
27% said yes
66% said I no understanding the question , please'
The question always ask myself is why do you think migrants come to your country . Skilled and unskilled ones
For a man of apparent intellect Andrew is so blue-pilled, it's scary. He also forgets London 2011.
Britain is part of Europe and boy it riots as well.
Recall the running riots in a dozen British cities with exemplary sentences from magistrates, and before that the abomination of Broadwater Farm where a police constable was decapitated.
Also, try reporting the horrific violence in British cities entirely unreported by the BBC as usual.
Yes, we are are a key part of the West/ the Global American Empire and its open borders Globalisation project.
Not according to Andrew Neil. And he knows. Apparently 🤔
Not really. Mainland Europe is completely different.
Most who's doing wreck is minority support by left you give inch they want mile. Macron is arrogant coward who's married with grandma just cruel with his owned peoplesike scum fascist trudeu
@@jordan3405It's not completely different. The main difference is how the British politco-media establishment treats issues around race and identity. The BBC is far more adapt at demonising Brits. brainwashing the populace and suppressing politically inconvenient facts. The French media is freer and tells the unvarnished truth.
This was a lightweight debate. The sort of PC nonsense that got Europe in this mess in the first place.
Very lightweight. Tip-toeing on egg shells.
There's a lot of unrest under the surface in the UK. 8 miles from me, a drunk/drugged up? driver mowed down ten people attending a carnival. About 18 miles away, Y11 students from local secondary schools attending a taster day in a sixth-form college went on the rampage, damaged toilets, graffitied walls and stole dangerous chemicals from a lab, which they then threw in a girl's face. That's just what I've heard of. Not everything gets reported, given the parlous state of local journalism. I'm from a town in Rochdale met. borough. I didn't know Roch. was a city.
“it’s time to punish the unvaccinated”- Andrew Neil
Never forgive. Never forget.
I can't forgive this man for his revolting, totalitarian views on mandatory vaccination. We see you Andrew.
And the "white " British never stood up to the fascist covid measures
@@doodlebrighton124 Aren't there mandatory vaccines for children in the UK? American children must be fully vaccinated prior to starting kindergarten. Mandatory vaccines in California are: Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis (DTaP) Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR) Hepatitis B. Varicella (Chickenpox)
@@janegardener1662Proven and safe vaccines unlike hastily approved for use ones by relaxing the previous criteria.
@@anthonydowney6069 The criteria were not relaxed at all. The only thing that was cut back was the time between waiting for results and waiting for regulatory approvals. The science and safety measures proceeded as per usual--that's why Trump couldn't force the approvals before the election. They had to be done per scientific protocol.
Nobody mention the words Muslums, Arabs or Islam, please, just don't say it, and maybe we won't be targetted!
Andrew the French riots already happened in UK, way before George Floyd. Remember 2011!!!
Europeans don't riot. I'm in Europe and there was not a single riot in my country.
France is a European country.
😂
Europeans riot and there will be a grievance behind it. But Islam stokes the grievances and sets out the villains before the riot even begins. What I'm saying if your a poor Muslim you might well turn to your Imam for support, and they will preach Islam, not Christianity.
@@Carma123France is Islamic
For God’s sake! Some idiot in Sweden burns a Quran and idiots in London start wetting the bed. We all know the problem. We need to address it! Treat them the way they understand.
“Much to the despair of their parents”?!?! The kid’s Mother denounced the police and sparked this bloody debacle!!
To be fair, her son was shot because he drove away from a police officer, not because he was an imminent threat.
@@janegardener1662 He was an unqualified driver who had been driving dangerously when he was stopped. It could easily be argued that he was an imminent threat to all road users in his vicinity. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.
@@andylewis7360 To shoot someone to death isn't the answer. The officer could have called for back up and had the driver cornered to stop him, or just taken his license number and arrested him when he got home.
@@janegardener1662 And if this dumb kid had lost control and driven into a crowd the officer would have been criticised for not preventing him. Get real. The kid deserved what he got
Neither you nor I know the exact circumstances but one thing I do know is that no peaceful country deserves to be trashed by unemployed louts just because some out-of-control teenager gets what was coming to him all along.
@@patricksweeney5308 I watched the video, the policeman was standing next to the car, not in front of it. He shot the driver right as the vehicle started to leave.
Freddy was spot on, Andrew was spot off.
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
W B Yates.
That's good!
Leicester ...a thriving migrant city!? if modern slavery is your thing then I guess.......
At no point did any of this controlled opposition, consider that the amount of immigration has impacted the ability of those entering too assimilate.
Andrew Neil thinks this sort of thing could happen in Warsaw or Budapest?
There seems to be no consequences for rioters and looters ever. I'd like to sue the rioters and their relatives who destroyed Detroit back in the 60s for reparations. We must start demanding reparations from these communities for their insatiable violence and destruction they cause to normal people's lives. Reparation are the only answer. If they don't have the cash then they and their relatives can be indentured servants until they pay off their debts to normal people. Hopefully this will build up a work ethic and structure in them.
"I'd like to sue the rioters and their relatives who destroyed Detroit back in the 60s"
"If they don't have the cash then they and their relatives can be indentured servants"
This juxtaposition is actually mental
You acknowledge these are violent people and relatives of violent people. In your own words "insatiable." And you want to give them access to your home?
Access to the first available transport back to wherever they came from.
Great statement.
Those migrants will never be French.
The Ghetto is a Venetian term originally IIRC, not an American one.
Yes.
Hm, Ghetto. He was talking to please a certain imagined audience.
But to overlook being that glib, when we have in very recent history, the Warsaw Ghetto, it's wishy washy talk as per.
Don't forget the nonsensical claim, Britain fist created concentration camps, in Af----. That is a,.., 'fun fantasy', so many of an ill, bent, love.
@@John-uh8kl Replying with AI generated text means your own thoughts on the subject are piss poor.
The way to solve this problem is to listen to the indigenous British population. They have been quite clear. These two don’t even mention they’re wishes.
We don’t matter. We are scorched earth and we don’t matter. We can’t just rock up at another country and claim to be supported but it’s fully expected of us to support these people. It’s enraging. We are second class citizens in our own country.
The central problem is the raising inequality due to neo-con liberal policies. In Germany, just like in France, it's basically the better-offs, the upper middle class, who are happy to open up the country for more migrants, while not giving a damn about the deterioration of the social net for everyone else. They completely accept and even support the ghettoization that follows from the simple fact that the migrants will move to the poorest regions, which keeps them away from their nice gated communities. This destroys the fabric of society, foremost in some less wealthy cities in conflicts among the "underclass", while it all makes the mostly protected "educated classes" feel ever better about themselves, as is often expressed in their virtuous politically correct speeches, and in all the huffing and puffing identity politics culture war "against the right-wing". It is them who are triggering the backlash that now inflames Europe. At the same time they continue to be the best and most loyal vassals of the US to fight against Russia to the last Ukrainian. It's a sad story, but it looks more and more like Europe has to first go up in flames before the so-called "progressive" elite begins to have some doubt and tries to think again how the Ukraine war can be stopped other than by more weapons and more war - and ultimately WW3, but by actual peace negotiations.
And the "white " British never stood up to the fascist covid measures
ITS NON - WHITE RACE....ITS STARING YOU RIGHT IN THE FACE..........AND %
This is WW Three, except WW Two, and now? Any different?
Oh.
Oh how?
We have the same problem here in the US. It's very worrisome! 🇺🇸
Violence drives poverty not the other way around 😢
Crime makes you poor.
No plenty of poor people don’t riot. This isn’t true.
Bling bling
Culture is downstream from Race and ethnicity
Not quite. Violence and poverty both condition and amplify each other. It's a vicious cycle like the race to the bottom.
There is a uniform picture of the arrivals if you acknowledge the ideology of them
Just be grateful for multiculturalism & diversity
Only if it's art, music or cooking. But this can be learned via Internet.
Oh, the wonderful cuisine. I'd be eating only turnips three times a day were it not for the cultural enrichment being forced upon us.
And the "white " British never stood up to the fascist covid measures
Elections do not change anything.
Japan managed to culturally transform and adopt Western technology, fashion, and art without importing millions of westerners. We, however, couldn't experience a curry dish without importing millions and ethnically transforming all our cities.
Import barbarians, expect barbarism.
Spectator, you have a problem with your audio! The two guests can be heard very well but Kate's commentary is almost inaudible. This is not the first time that your uploads have this issue!
Good, her voice is at best, grating.
The Spectator is Boomer central, so of course they're tech illiterates.
Leicester, "a thriving migrant city"!! Absolute rubbish Andrew Neil. What happened there recently? Your ignorance beggars belief.
46 comments listed --- only 27 here ! Who's wielding the blue pencil -- RUclips or The Spectator -- someone at the Spectator -- please enlighten us?
Remember when Europe was homogeneous? Good days.
Ghetto is not an Americanism. It originated in Venice in the 1500s when jews were only permitted to live in a certain area of the City.
The Nazis used the term when they herded the Jews of Warsaw together in a walled up portion of the City where they were starved to death, the survivors being eventually shipped off to the death camps.
People with incompatible cultures, customs and religions are located in ghettos, its a long standing European tradition.
Is this your first time making video and audio, Spectator? You can do much better. Please do.
Technical issues.
I totally agree with your comment. A. Neill and J. Miller´s take of the current riots in France sounds nonchalant, even frivolous. Yes, Spectator should do much better.
'The Strange Death of Europe' by Douglas Murray. Europe is doomed.
Multiculturalism in Britain has been a disaster. Try living in Bradford
The idea of multiculturalism is about 200 years before it's time. There are too many differences that are irreconcilable to my mind. Multiculturalism isn't what it says on the tin at all, it just leads to parallel societies living in disgust of each other. In the West its become even more pathogenic because the prevailing wind is blowing against the majority populations forced to absorb these cultures. This can ONLY lead to disaster.
It is typical that Andrew Neil puts the previous demonstrations by the French on the same page as this violent one by the huge immigrant community. Well, the leading brains of consecutive French (just like British) governments filled up the country with immigrants to ensure a safe supply for the much idolised multicultural paradise. Have a look at ‘The 15 safest countries to live in’ . All of them have no or hardly any immigration. France, Germany and Britain say daily prayers for these unfortunate 15 countries deprived of the blessings of a multicultural paradise.
Summer riots in France take place during school holidays when youths are bored, frustrated and aggressive in the heat. Happens each year.
Why does this not happen with other youths who are bored, frustrated and aggressive in the heat?
@@MasterMalrubius practically a Parisian tradition of mob rule in June before they disperse for the holidays. Same with industrial strikes.
Embarrassing "experts"
Why seek Andrew Neill's opinion on anything?
13:14 "the idea of a national eruption is improbable in Britain compared to..."
A lot of people seem to have short memories.
Was the summer of 2011 really that long ago?
Completely agree with the assessment who lived in Germany and moved to Britain. I was held back with the racism but are thriving in a great country like Britain.
In Canada, since Covid, our underclass is buying up businesses. And filling them with underclass employees.
God, do these people not get what the problem is? Moreover the solution seems simple also. Just recognise the problem, implement the solution.
This is the audio equivalent of Goldilocks and the Three Bears.
I was working in Southall in west London today and it was like stepping into little India. Every shop was Indian and I counted very few white people on the street. But it was bustling! It was clean, it was friendly and not at all intimidating. The people I spoke to were delightful, hard-working and prosperous.
lol joka
@@metalhamster14Not a joke. It's true
Quite a contrast, then, to the subcontinental jihadists in Paris, Rochdale, Manchester... Perhaps the people you describe would be better off bustling back in Asia, where they belong, and where the welfare state operates a little differently.
And you loved it so much that you decided to move there? And what about those of us whose ancestry is rooted in Southall? We should just accept being replaced because you fancied an exotic afternoon trip?
As a resident of Southall, it has the worst record for litter and fly-tipping in London. I can see piles of it from my window now. It also has a high crime rate that is 89% above the national average. So you're clearly telling lies. Further, what has your personal experience got to do with anything? How does events in France relate to your short trip?
Interesting conversation. Shame about the audio quality. Anyone else find it extremely quiet?
what about the site HISTORY DEBUNKED for england?
Ask the "rioters"
Not these muppets
Is it still time to punish the unvaccinated Andrew?
More immigration is the answer it seems. Public is ignored.
Now, based on broad empirical observations; unlike most other European countries, the French foreign service’s approach to democracy still retains a healthy amount of influence from both its monarchial and pre-World War roots. Non-French ethnics can have and keep citizenship, but they are de facto forced by the French government and French culture alike to live in the country’s infamous suburb-slums, the banlieues.
Currently, the riots which have broken out in Paris (and erupted all over the country at varying degrees) after police killed a 17-year-old male. In In retrospect, when a similar situation occurred in 2005 -- there were also weeks of riots that were terrible. So we cannot be sure if the same will manifest from this situation. But it is worth looking into based on France’s unique demographic situation.
Comparatively, the US is no stranger to issues of race, but there are constant conversations on the topic, and members of most minorities are represented throughout all levels of government. The French have not at all begun to figure that out yet. Hence, France deemed their ethnic conflict so extreme they had to redefine what “being French” meant. So whether you were Catalan, Basque, from Paris or Marseille; you were now just French. This made tracking and collecting ethnic data illegal and unconstitutional. So France doesn’t even know how big their racial problem is.
As a consequence, they have just essentially institutionalized racism and created massive divides between urban centers and marginalized areas where these “second class citizens” live. Who lacking a proper understanding of the situation has made allocating resources outside of law enforcement a non-starter, further dividing the groups and adding tension to an already unstable situation.
With that said, however -- for La France economic and physical security are intertwined with maintaining prestige and the idea that Paris is a serious global player; if France was a private company, we would be discussing this in terms of protecting brand reputation. That French concerns were so ignominiously swept aside by the US and UK, with Australia happily going along, was too great an assault on French perceptions of their global standing to let slide.
Consequently, what progress the French have experienced in opening their hearts is largely limited to former imperial subjects who are Christian and who speak (perfect) French. Southeast Asians and especially Algerians most definitely are not feeling the love.
Furthermore, it can be observed when gleaned closer, that -- in many ways, the French system takes the two types of racism most prevalent in the United States and applies the worst of both. In the American South, racism takes the form of, “We will mingle, but we are not equal.” In the American North, it is in the vein of, “We are equal, but we will not mingle.” In France, the targets of racism are out of sight and out of mind, consigned to ghettos and at the back of the line as regards government services.
worldhistory.quora.com/https-www-quora-com-What-s-going-on-in-France-with-the-big-riots-lately-answer-Abdel-Fudadin?ch=3&oid=117732549&share=a1c3b88a&srid=3q1Rc&target_type=post
Neil lost any credibility during Covid with his ludicrous comments.
He's never had credibility.
good discussion, thank you...
When you readthe Quran you know whats really happening.Its already happened in Londonistan
These pair haven't a clue what they are talking about.
'generous welfare state' these people can never understand the traumatic melting pot of life at the bottom of a class based system - they have hovered comfortably above it all - so easy to comment on what you simply do not understand through lived experience.
I dont see Europeans rioting. Intentionally dishonest framing by the spectator.
4:04 “…an underclass has been created”..deliberately and with malice aforethought..le grand replacement
Do these two gentlemen think that what happened with the sexual abuse of British women of different ethnicities by men from the Punjab and other countries contributes to a feeling that those in power do not care about unrestricted immigration? That anyone is entitled to enter Britain, regardless of criminal history or indication of religious fanaticism? In Canada we have no problems, yet in Europe where Merkel opened up the borders of Germany to anyone and other countries have done the same, there are far more problems with unrestricted immigration. What is wrong with having standards for immigration and for asylum seekers? It’s not about hatred, it is about caring about the people who you represent and the future of the country.
This could not happen in poland
Wasn’t the car stolen? That’s what I heard
will say the production of this needs working on - vastly different volume between the lady and the two chaps.
Nothing to do with racial injustice, just the excuse.
And the numbers bussing in, the professional 'angry mobs', concerned about racial injustice, that's quite funny.
Come on!
A man made a speech and a prediction about this - he was correct.
Why does it happen?
Because it's tolerated.
Try it in somewhere like Singapore...they'd be face down in the dirt permanently!
But the Singaporeans wouldnt be dumb enough to let them into the xountry in the first place!
Pathetic.We all now why this happens. The question to ask is ........'Who benefits ?'.
And west was teaching India how to handle rioters.... 😂😂😂
Europe is a tinderbox but that’s ok then. No big deal.
Islam and all you lovely middle class are tip tip toeing around the problem. Wait until they reach 30% then even you will have to take notice.
And that time most of french will know their fathers. And there mothers will happy because they get married
Interesting choice of outro music? Non sequitur
Spectator a joke really! listen to Neil
And did we watch the Fraser nelson one with Farage
Utter painful
Agreed. And this is supposedly a "conservative" paper. These Boomers have conserved nothing, but their own bank balance.
Boomer conservatives, conserve nothing! They're worst than the far-left.
A simple explanation:
Think of the scenario you see a policar from not from "your" country but your enemy country patrolling your neighborhood ..... this is what the rioters are seeing every day
The problem is weak state and public unable to swallow casualty in law enforcement. Quixotic they don't mind 200,000 casualty in Ukraine for their cause.
I like Andrew Neil’s hair, it’s amazing how how it’s kept it’s colour despite his age.
Great to have Andrew Neil on as he doesn't talk an bull about politicians having solutions. France and other countries have deep rooted structural issues and they need long term solutions it won't change with plaster fixes. I suspect the issue will be talked about for a while and then fall down the agenda and a few years time we will see more anger, frustration and riots.
Europeans, in the sense of the racial and diverse ethnic groups who are disparaged globally under the collective term "White," were not the ones rioting in France or elsewhere. The people shouting, "fuck France!" and who said that they were there only for the passport and the social welfare were the ones rioting; namely, immigrants and the children of immigrants-primarily from Middle Eastern and African countries. Regardless of whether they are second or third generation "French" citizens, they are not French in the ways that matter most-that of historical, cultural, social, and civic connectedness. The immigrants remain separate, have chosen to remain separate, and are proud to be separate from the ethnic French. The same can be seen in the relationship between immigrants to Germany from similar Third World places and the, as the immigrants call them (quite derisively), "Biodeutsche."
Such contingents, especially ones who have become so large that they have established parallel societies adjacent to the (for now) dominant ones of the nations they inhabit, make assimilation impossible. Europe is being changed and, in a larger sense, colonized by these immigrant groups. The failure of ethnic Europeans to realize this and act, swiftly and decisively, will merely serve to prove three things:
History is both cyclical and deterministic.
Oswald Spengler was a prophet.
And Enoch was right.
Audio balance needs fixing. (AN too loud in relation to the other 2. Watch the meters! ) Good feature though.
Indeed, trouble hearing lady.
Imagine bringing in horders of unskilled migrants when you already have high youth unemployment
Please fix the ladies mic.
Build more prisons, more courts , increase police, repeal laws that give human rights, only fighting fire with fire will work, these gangsters feed on weakness.
At least Europeans are engaged with politics. When people are unhappy they go and just demonstrate, its been like this since the French revolution To be French, there is a sense of freedom of expression and assembly which must be protected The French state serves the people unlike here in the UK we are just subjects. We just whinge like the MCC members with England Bazball cricket in reference to Bairstow walking off and getting a stumping. Australia 5-0 ! Anyway in the UK were there not riots in London, Bradford etc ?
Good discussion. Thanks for uploading it.
Why dont you test the mike before the program? You are wispering and one fyest is shouting. Speaking of professionalism...
They're senile Boomers, of course they can't do tech.
Was this person going to run the police over?
Andrew needs an extended holiday in East Anglia and get the thatchers in.
Jabba
I know let's rejoin the EU and open up the borders. 😅
Jesus you need to sort the sound out on this channel. Music and adverts burst your eardrums because you have to max the volume to hear the dialogue
Do better
The world needs to hear what you’re saying
Look, as unpopular as this is going to be, Andrew please lose some weight - you will be happier and live longer. Please.
Coming to a city near you.
They did not do it because of the 17 year old, he was just the excuse they were waiting for!
This is almost as left wing as the New Statesman smh.
Hear hear.
CRAP episode. Indeed.
The boy did not refuse to stop. We all saw the video. He was stopped and then drove off.
Once you've stopped you aren't allowed to leave until the officer says so. The police should not have shot him though. He overreacted.