@@Dogtles you seriously think that it's a coincidence that harry is placed in a tank of green liquid that is seemingly keeping him alive and also the way the green completely covers norman at the end. There's no way insomniac didn't choose to put harry in that green liquid and not have it tease green goblin
Same with norman osborn, in here it's clear that he loves his son and is trying to save him but like mimir from god of war said himself, such impulses could lead good parents to make terribly stupid decisions Which lead to consequences like Octavius, Li and soon to be Venom or whatever harry has become
in my opinion that is what makes a good villain it gives them an understandable motive instead of the typical "Oh I am going to destroy a whole city just because i am evil"
I'm fine with Harry being Venom as long as they actually do it right. Ultimate Spider-Man didn't really hit the mark, but Insomniac's insanely talented. I have faith that they'll give us a good time. Edit: for the record, I love the ultimate spider-man show (the monkey screams will always be my favorite thing about it), but Venom coulda been done better (except Agent Venom, Agent Venom was badass)
You’re right the show didn’t really didn’t hit the mark with their Venom, but Insomniac will do it justice. My only question would be, how do you make Harry/Venom hate Spider-Man? They only thing I can think of is if you kill Norman, or if Harry’s girlfriend (if they do down that road), gets killed because Spider-Man couldn’t save her.
David Poncé no way I really hope they change it doesn’t make sense this time peter doesn’t know harry because mlies his best friend and the venom suit will have different powers like super jump super strength and symboite arms and venom doesn’t have a reason to spider man and the vemon suit is there heal harry what when he comes out he will just go rob bank
And maybe Tombstone too. There is an arc there just waiting to happen. I feel like this series could go on for a while. There are just so many possibilities for them to choose.
Benny Fair fax I actually quite enjoyed the boss fights. I just wish the middle of the game didn't slow down so much. The best ones for me definitely being 1. Vulture and Electro 2. Fight with otto 3. Fight with Li.
Benny Fair fax Yes. I think the sinister six fights should have been more of a focus. Mr. Negative kinda did turn out to be the main villain in a way. Half the game is going after him. And after his story is done is the sinister six story ready. I think they should have shown peter putting each of them down independently. Or atleast some of them. That way when they team up it feels warranted. But besides that I enjoyed the fights. I'm also kinda bummed there is no new game plus mode yet. I thought they said it would be in the day one patch.
Devin Harp for real, Carnage literally sucks the blood out of people. And he’s the most twisted character in all of Marvel, he even disgusted the Joker ffs!
@Hype - Hawk I highly doubt that, the first dlc is about Black Cat, the next two haven't been released on what their story is about but I definitely know that it has NOTHING to do with it
I love the attention to detail in these cutscenes. It’s crazy to see that Insomniac took the time to make Norman’s lips quiver as if he’s about to break down emotionally any second. Makes me wanna get this game immediately
@Joaquin Rojas that would honestly be cool hopefully they add carnage in some way he’s such a unique character but most likely we will see Peter get the symbiote suit and maybe he will get carried away
He not seem completely bonded with symbiote, and symbiote tried reach to norman's hand, i think symbiote doesnt want to bond with harry and search for a vessel, i think this will be eddie brock again
Norman Osborn is one of Marvels most interesting characters in my opinion. I can’t fully judge this version yet because we haven’t seen him turn into Green Goblin yet but he actually loves his son in comparison to the comics. What I love about his character in the comics is that even when he isn’t Green Goblin, he’s still evil in nature
It's crazy to think that the entire story of this game was purely because of the mystery of Harry Osborn and his father trying to find a cure... Excellent writing👌
I️ had a feeling that big metal container had something to do with venom ; during the Mj investigation mission in Norman’s penthouse, when you/Mj walked in the secret room you could get a quick good look at the metal container(has Harry/venom inside) and I️t reminded me of the Ultimate Spider-Man game where in the story the venom symbiote is created by Peter and Eddie Brock’s Dad and they ( the dads) stored the symbiote in a giant metal container that looks almost exactly the same as the one in Spider-Man ps4 I️ hope I️ wasn’t the only one that remembers that game too. If you finished reading this I️ hope you have a Great day !!
Actually, it was contained in two different jars that weren't really big at all. Peter opens one of the jars and a drop of "The Suit" falls on his hand and then covers his entire body. That jar was later destroyed by Peter himself. Then, an angered Eddie Brock uses the other jar but instead of a drop the whole content of the jar covers him, hence why he becomes an even worse monster than symbiote Spidey with even less control.
I feel like Venom being Harry will only be for a transitory phase, once Harry is cured the Symbiote will be discarded and might make its way to either Parker or Brock
So many people hate the idea that Harry Osborn is bonded to the symbiote. While I'm sad that Norman had to do this to Harry to keep him alive, and REALLY excited to see where this goes. I have faith that Insomiac will do something incredible with this, despite what bad rep the Ultimate Spider man cartoon got because of the idea. If Harry does become Venom, and not just being bonded with the symbiote as life preservation, then I hope that a Venom-Goblin hybrid will be done. Although...Harry might not become a villain at all in this universe. We'll just have to wait and see.
Robert Kenny Okay? I already knew all of that, since it's common knowledge to anyone who has read about Spiderman even slightly. I still don't understand how I'm apparently a fool here. Are you saying that because I think the idea of Harry being attached to the symbiote is interesting, and actually decent and good, I'm made out to be a fool? Or did you think that I didn't know about Venom's connection to Eddie Brock, and that thought made me out to be a fool?
Robert Kenny Its true, we don't know how this will play out. But I have my beliefs that Insomiac will try to do something more with this, something great perhaps. So we'll just have to wait and see.
@@seasonedmind914 we already have red goblin. Do you think this venom/goblin hybrid may look the same but bulkier, black, big spider going chest and back?
It's like a role reversal from The Amazing Spiderman 2 were Norman was the sick one instead of Harry and even the photo in the picture frame Harry looked like James Franco's younger brother.
Why does everyone want the same story re-told? Eddy has been Venom for years. They did fantastic with this game and have proven they can mix up the story of Spidey we know so well enough while keeping it true to form. Let the next one come out and reserve your judgement until then. Christ.
@@SDRich-cb6qc theyll probably make it as more of an abomination created by science as opposed to an alien life form. Bunch of ways they could go about it honestly. Idk im approaching it with an open mind, I like the idea of not knowing whats next as opposed to same story time and time again.
The reason I don’t want Harry to be venom is because it severely limits what insomniac can do with the goblin(s) later in the series And because Eddie Brock is the one true venom
I'm curious how they'll fit this in knowing that Eddie Brock is also in the game.. I think the symbiot will leave Harry for Eddie mid way into the game
@@solissea3964 maybe Harry will become green goblin somehow and the symbiote will go to Eddie Brock because it seems like the symbiote doesn’t want to merge with Harry
I have an idea for how the sequel could play out. The twist is that the symbiote shown in this cutscene is only just a part of it - a _third_ of it, per say. Norman was able to get a hold of the symbiote, but most of it escaped the lab before he could contain it. Only one third was in his possession, which was enough to keep Harry alive...but not make him turn into Venom immediately until his health had improved. The other two parts would go to Spidey, naturally - granting him the symbiote suit. Eddie Brock gets the last part shortly after his reputation tanks, but he doesn't have a 'Venom' form just yet (although he could have freeze-frame/jumpscare appearances as he stalks Spidey, having a Todd MacFarlane-esque Venom design with normal teeth and tongue). As the game progresses, Spider-Man becomes more and more corrupted by the symbiote's influence, and it even shows in the missions, weirdly telling you to violently beat criminals to a pulp rather than just dispatch them. By the time he reaches Harry, all hell breaks loose. Harry goes into Venom form, resembling the Ultimate Venom look (with the spikes, deformities and what not) and goes after Spidey in a fit of rage. Symbiote Spidey actually _kills_ Harry by ripping his part of the symbiote off of him and leaving him to die. Suddenly realizing the horrible crime he had committed, his next act was to immediately tear his own part of the symbiote off. But even then, he would not be able to forgive himself for such a horrible mistake. Eddie gets a hold of the other two parts of the symbiote, finally allowing him to manifest as the real Venom - featuring Insomniac's take on the well-known, traditional Venom design. Knowing everything about Spider-Man, including the fact that he killed Harry out of symbiotically-influenced fury, Venom knew that it would be the perfect opportunity to slander Spidey and ruin him forever, granting Eddie his retribution. He would even go as far as to go to Norman regarding this info, which would cement his slippage down the slope of sanity, and final transformation into the Green Goblin - both blaming Spider-Man for their misery and trying to end him personally.
@@OtakuFocus As a bonus I figured that Venom and Goblin would turn on each other because they both want to kill Spidey before the other And they were definitely planning a sequel hook with Otto... So if it all comes together, the climax would be a four-way fatal
So, in the next game, Norman will turn into the Green Goblin, but not the ultimate version (you can see the glider prototype during the mission with MJ) and Harry will be the Venom of this universe. A part of his powers has been revealed, also during a mission with MJ when she entered the room. BUT, he may not be Venom all the time since Eddie Brock is mentioned on a card. Also Venom, who will already have some spiders powers, could gain more by absorbing Peter at some point. And that would explain how he gains his Spider Symbol on his chest (The white peter has in this game is pretty similar). What do you think ?
Lucas Margolliet Frankly I’m eager to see their take on both villains. This game was clearly inspired by the Ultimate universe, so I want to see what’ll become of both Harry and Norman. Has Spidey encountered the symbiote already? Is this Venom an alien or an experimental treatment gone rogue, or something new? Who will be Venom’s host in the sequel; Harry, Eddie Brock, maybe even Scorpion as the Sinister Spider-Man? Will Norman be the classic version of GG, the monstrous version from Ultimate Marvel or a bizarre combination of both? What will their motives be to attack Spider-Man, especially after he saved Norman’s life when he was tossed from that rooftop by Dr. Octavius? So many questions, man I’m dying to see the sequel!
I know this will make me sound old, but this reminds me of DC's Static Shock for some reason. That cartoon also had a wealthy villain who didn't treat his own son right at first, only to change his tune once he began researching a cure for him.
Part of me hope that Eddie Brock is in the next game and in what someone would think is the final Venom fight, the symbiote leaves Harry, sadly killing him, then it finds Eddie. And before that make some stuff happen to Eddie to make him hate Spidey and Pete, then boom, OG Venom. But I think Insomniac will stick to their guns and make Harry Venom. Which is fine too. I just hope he’s bigger than what we saw in the tube
feyzal92 it’s not a bad idea. Especially since that don’t have to shoehorn in Eddie. Don’t misunderstand, I love the Eddie Brock/Venom character, but if Peter is not a reporter for you to have that “rivalry” with Brock, or if you don’t have them have that sort of brother relationship like they had in the Ultimate comics or in Spectacular Spider-Man, I don’t think it would work as well.
YESS!!! That's what I think the route is going to go...think about it, Osborn already hired mercenaries in desperation in the first game...I'm pretty sure he'll do some underhanded off the books hiring of another single, well funded (by himself of course),well equipped mercenary who has his tech. Just like in the 90s Spider-man cartoon...although I'm not sure if it was Fisk or Norman who hired Hobgoblin in the 1st place
I don’t know if anyone said this yet but one question is that where did Norman get the Symbiote, like did he create it or mabey did he get it from Carlton Drake (in reference to the Venom movie), I mean like in the Ultimate Spider-Man series, the symbiotes were nanites created in a lab, but in most of the other series the symbiotes are part of an alien race called the Klyntar
And they said (Insomniac) Venom will not be in this game, in any form.. 😁👍Really hope in the future, they would make dlc or next game with Venom in some part: boss battle, kind of team up with Spidey in some way.. Anyway this is awesome Spidey game
Riku Honkanen Technically, Venom’s not in the game, just the post credit scene. So, technically speaking, he had nothing to do with the actual gameplay. So, in a way, you can say this doesn’t count. Lol.
The ps5 is a long way off. At least another year and a half. Insomniac already have the casting, the mechanics and the world. They can whip up a good story and change some mechanics a bit in like 2 or so years. I reckon the sequel could come to ps4
I don't think the ps5 will come before 2021. Considering that the rumors about GTA 6 coming out in 2021 are strong it might be a launch title for the ps5.
Okay the way these characters were executed was amazing, I still think Harry should be Green Goblin, and Eddy should be Venom. I mean, it's not like you would make a Batman game with Raz Al Ghul being the Joker or vice verse!
It’s entirely possible that Norman took the symbiote from Brock and introduced it to Harry in the tank in hopes to save him, but it’s rejecting him since he’s a dying host. I think they may go with an Anti-Venom story of the symbiote does bond with him and Martin Li cures him at some point so the suit splits, Harry becoming Anti-Venom and the original Venom going back to Eddie. It’d be a great way to set up a symbiote storyline.
Idc if I’m gonna get called out for it, I would’ve preferred Eddie as Venom. Harry is fine and all, it’s just that I prefer him when he’s either Peter’s best friend or the Goblin. But seeing as how Eddie already exists in this universe, maybe there’s still a chance of him showing up. The symbiote could probably bust out and find its way onto someone else.
since the MJ mission there i noticed that in Harry’s voice messages he was either being weird when he said he was taking shots in europe (like if he knew it wasn’t the case) and the one on the phone where he asks Norman to get his journal for him when he’s not supposed to be there at all
The fact that he is overthinking for a cure is kinda funny when one of the easiest way to remove a symbiote is simply by playing dubstep music or a church bell
Predicted Villains Roster for Spider-Man Sequel: -Green Goblin -New Goblin -Venom (Possibility for redemption) --(Hopefully Venom means that Spider-Man might be able to get the Symbiote Suit.) -Carnage -Riot -Kraven the Hunter -The Prowler (Since Miles Morales.) -Sandman -Paste-Pot Pete (Possible joke villain.) -Return of Kingpin (Possible begrudging ally? It’s a long shot, but Peter did acknowledge the necessity of Fisk as New York’s crime regulator when the Demons came around following Fisk’s arrest, so its possible, but still improbable.) -Return of Doctor Octopus (MIGHT be redeemable in this world. Maybe not. Have to wait and see.)
For all the people that keep saying Venom is made for Eddie and Eddie only, may I remind you that in the original comic's he was first attached to Deadpool? Does that mean you want Deadpool on your next *SPIDERMAN* game?! Now the fact is that Insomniac is already doing a great job creating their own version of our favourite wall crawler and they are already thinking about the squeals as it seems. If you ask me it's much better than repeating the same old pattern over and over again.
Not just sequels, as of the latest press release Marvel has given Insomniac their blessing to make whatever marvel character they so choose since they did such a great job on this one. A huge honor for Insomniac
@@RagaGearforever5 I don't think that's possible man, considering the symbiote literally kills diseases, it's more than likely keeping him alive at this point while Norman finds a cure
There are multiple possibilities. In this story the symbiote might've been man-made and Norman tried to cure Harry's illness with it but the plan backfired. Or maybe Harry just got infected with the symbiote and Norman is trying to get rid of it.
What Harry has is a genetic disease inherited by his mother (didn't you play the game?). Norman puts him in that glass chamber with the symbiote and uses a trip to Europe as a cover. How Norman acquires the symbiote we don't know... But the glass container and the symbiote (assuming it is one) is sustaining Harry until a proper cure for his disease is found. Its obvious that the symbiote is not completely bonded with Harry but enough to keep him alive - i think the properties in the chamber are preventing that whilst also helping Harry. The symbiote does have healing properties as it staved off Eddie Brock's cancer in the comics, but this scene sets up the fact that Harry's supension is going to go completely wrong.
I think Harry as Venom will work fine, but if you collect the backpack with the farewell card to Peter from the Daily Bugle, you'll see Eddie Brock's signature on it, so that could be something.
jimkef1 in Ultimate Spider-Man, Harry was Venom for the first 2 seasons I believe. Then they made Flash Agent Venom. For what they’re doing, it would make sense to turn Harry into Venom, especially if Oscorp are the ones who made the symbiote.
I'm ok with him with being attached with a symbiote, but honestly I hope they don't make him venom! His predecessor maybe but not venom! I also hope they make Norman the first Green Goblin because every time they start with Harry it's a disaster.
People are so upset bout Eddie not being venom, they forget it’s entirely possible to make an enjoyable story even while changing core elements in a tired tale.
so basically whats happening here is that the symbiote kills if its not a perfect match and harry is slowly dying from it so i guess they tied to find a cure to get rid of it so there is a possibility that a dlc could come out of this
A Norman Osborn who loves his son? Hmm. Curious.
Harry : *becomes venom
Norman : *slap. You're a disappointment boi
Lol
Not to argue, but hasn’t Norman always loved Harry, it’s Spidey and/or Peter he usually hates
@@lennydickson8845 he's always hated harry for not being as academically competent as peter and he actually wanted peter more as a son than harry
Greas123 Greedy bastard. That’s what he’s always been: greedy.
I like how they tease both green goblin and venom at once
BlackHawkCentral
How is this a tease for green goblin?
@@Dogtles norman could be green goblin and harry could be venom?
@@Dogtles you seriously think that it's a coincidence that harry is placed in a tank of green liquid that is seemingly keeping him alive and also the way the green completely covers norman at the end. There's no way insomniac didn't choose to put harry in that green liquid and not have it tease green goblin
Ray
Norman Osborn IS green goblin, no could be about it
BlackHawkCentral
I suppose you do have a point
man all villains here are really sympathetic and tragic, none of them is completely evil and all of them are driven more by desperation than greed.
Same with norman osborn, in here it's clear that he loves his son and is trying to save him but like mimir from god of war said himself, such impulses could lead good parents to make terribly stupid decisions Which lead to consequences like Octavius, Li and soon to be Venom or whatever harry has become
Especially doctor octopus
in my opinion that is what makes a good villain it gives them an understandable motive instead of the typical "Oh I am going to destroy a whole city just because i am evil"
Michael Alvarez and that's a pretty new take as in the comics he was a cold and neglectful father.
Bro so true
I'm fine with Harry being Venom as long as they actually do it right. Ultimate Spider-Man didn't really hit the mark, but Insomniac's insanely talented. I have faith that they'll give us a good time.
Edit: for the record, I love the ultimate spider-man show (the monkey screams will always be my favorite thing about it), but Venom coulda been done better (except Agent Venom, Agent Venom was badass)
YEAH!
You’re right the show didn’t really didn’t hit the mark with their Venom, but Insomniac will do it justice. My only question would be, how do you make Harry/Venom hate Spider-Man? They only thing I can think of is if you kill Norman, or if Harry’s girlfriend (if they do down that road), gets killed because Spider-Man couldn’t save her.
David Poncé no way I really hope they change it doesn’t make sense this time peter doesn’t know harry because mlies his best friend and the venom suit will have different powers like super jump super strength and symboite arms and venom doesn’t have a reason to spider man and the vemon suit is there heal harry what when he comes out he will just go rob bank
i agree. but i still dont understand why they just dont use eddie brock anymore
David Poncé venom symbiot will probrably reject harry
So our villains for the next game are probably Green Goblin, Venom, Carnage, Sandman, Hammerhead, Morbius, and Mysterio
and kraven
And maybe Tombstone too. There is an arc there just waiting to happen. I feel like this series could go on for a while. There are just so many possibilities for them to choose.
Benny Fair fax
I'm upset they never let me punch sabel. She deserved it.
Benny Fair fax
I actually quite enjoyed the boss fights. I just wish the middle of the game didn't slow down so much. The best ones for me definitely being 1. Vulture and Electro 2. Fight with otto 3. Fight with Li.
Benny Fair fax
Yes. I think the sinister six fights should have been more of a focus. Mr. Negative kinda did turn out to be the main villain in a way. Half the game is going after him. And after his story is done is the sinister six story ready. I think they should have shown peter putting each of them down independently. Or atleast some of them. That way when they team up it feels warranted. But besides that I enjoyed the fights.
I'm also kinda bummed there is no new game plus mode yet. I thought they said it would be in the day one patch.
I love you, son. Like a turd in the wind.
Venom References.
Lol
Im dead😭😂😂😂
Lool
SLayer Hero esc but that’s still not a saying...
Oh shit, Green Goblin and Venom, literally the two frontiers of being Spider-Mans true advisories!
that means Miles also dons the spiderman costume for a 2 vs 2
And carnage i swear carnage gets no respect
Devin Harp yeah but he isn’t one of spider-man’s arch nemeses, only a villain
Devin Harp for real, Carnage literally sucks the blood out of people. And he’s the most twisted character in all of Marvel, he even disgusted the Joker ffs!
He was in TASM2 game lol
I could see Norman as green goblin controlling his son venom in the nxt game. It's probably why peter is gonna need miles
Keane Martin I thought the same thing
Dlc!
@Hype - Hawk I highly doubt that, the first dlc is about Black Cat, the next two haven't been released on what their story is about but I definitely know that it has NOTHING to do with it
@@yonosepe7491 tf? Miles is a likeable character in this game, not any of that Ironheart bs
@@yonosepe7491 stfu
I love the attention to detail in these cutscenes. It’s crazy to see that Insomniac took the time to make Norman’s lips quiver as if he’s about to break down emotionally any second. Makes me wanna get this game immediately
Who else got chills when the webbing reached for Norman's hand?
Me
Not me
my jaw dropped seeing this
Me
What does that mean
I think the symbiote is keeping Harry alive but can’t bond with him
@Joaquin Rojas that would honestly be cool hopefully they add carnage in some way he’s such a unique character but most likely we will see Peter get the symbiote suit and maybe he will get carried away
Goblin strain doesn't agree with venom strain......like meth and rubber
@@patrickwannafightaboutit6338 LoL
xD
Hehe looks like WE are back...
@Dr Cat 13 hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisssss 😬
Dr Cat 13 we hate it
too bad you can get owned by a cigarette lighter and a boombox
But you don't feel strong enough Venom. You would be stronger if bonded with Eddie Brock.
Lmao
0:48 the green light on Osborn’s face reflects him as the “Green” goblin.
Imagine if their was another light that was purple
That would have been too obvious
I didn’t see that until I read this lol
Mary Anne Ayumi this isnt you bloody english gcse
We also saw the prototype mask and the glider when MJ puts the mask on.
i dont remember the glider but i do remember the mask and ball grenades.
He not seem completely bonded with symbiote, and symbiote tried reach to norman's hand, i think symbiote doesnt want to bond with harry and search for a vessel, i think this will be eddie brock again
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Atakan Özcan hope so honestly
Dude I didn’t even think about that maybe they need his blood to force him to bond and the containment is keeping the symbiote in not at bay.
Atakan Özcan better be, thats the only real venom to me
Better be.
This is gonna be a good video game series I can already tell. It's gonna rival the arkham games
Emanhoe Definitely dude. Can’t wait wait for it to come out
true :D
Norman Osborn is one of Marvels most interesting characters in my opinion.
I can’t fully judge this version yet because we haven’t seen him turn into Green Goblin yet but he actually loves his son in comparison to the comics. What I love about his character in the comics is that even when he isn’t Green Goblin, he’s still evil in nature
I really love how insomniac decided to subtly replicate the harry and Norman design off of their live action counter parts from the rami series.
It's crazy to think that the entire story of this game was purely because of the mystery of Harry Osborn and his father trying to find a cure... Excellent writing👌
I want it to be Anti Venom so its more fitting that Martin Li is in the game (Martin Li made Anti Venom).
but that was Eddie Brock when he was suffering from cancer. Li's touch destroyed the cancer
Well regular Venom isn’t supposed to be Harry anyway. The team is really creative and puts a new spin on a lot of things.
Luke Waxman - Official Vertebrae in disney's ultimate spider man harry was venom
Random Shit 1227 right. He also became Anti-Venom for a few episodes as well.
Interesting
I️ had a feeling that big metal container had something to do with venom ; during the Mj investigation mission in Norman’s penthouse, when you/Mj walked in the secret room you could get a quick good look at the metal container(has Harry/venom inside) and I️t reminded me of the Ultimate Spider-Man game where in the story the venom symbiote is created by Peter and Eddie Brock’s Dad and they ( the dads) stored the symbiote in a giant metal container that looks almost exactly the same as the one in Spider-Man ps4
I️ hope I️ wasn’t the only one that remembers that game too.
If you finished reading this I️ hope you have a Great day !!
That game was awesome!
BORZORG BUBBA Ultimate Spider-Man was such a great game tbh
Actually, it was contained in two different jars that weren't really big at all. Peter opens one of the jars and a drop of "The Suit" falls on his hand and then covers his entire body. That jar was later destroyed by Peter himself. Then, an angered Eddie Brock uses the other jar but instead of a drop the whole content of the jar covers him, hence why he becomes an even worse monster than symbiote Spidey with even less control.
Same
Also when your playing mary jane and your in Norman's house when you go into that room and if you look around you can find some goblin grenades.
I feel like Venom being Harry will only be for a transitory phase, once Harry is cured the Symbiote will be discarded and might make its way to either Parker or Brock
Was I the only one who was shook as to how Norman actually cares for his son?! Like damn talk about making him sympathetic.
So many people hate the idea that Harry Osborn is bonded to the symbiote. While I'm sad that Norman had to do this to Harry to keep him alive, and REALLY excited to see where this goes.
I have faith that Insomiac will do something incredible with this, despite what bad rep the Ultimate Spider man cartoon got because of the idea. If Harry does become Venom, and not just being bonded with the symbiote as life preservation, then I hope that a Venom-Goblin hybrid will be done. Although...Harry might not become a villain at all in this universe. We'll just have to wait and see.
Robert Kenny How am I fool? Did I ask why people hated this? No. All I did was say my take on this ending stinger here.
Robert Kenny Okay? I already knew all of that, since it's common knowledge to anyone who has read about Spiderman even slightly. I still don't understand how I'm apparently a fool here. Are you saying that because I think the idea of Harry being attached to the symbiote is interesting, and actually decent and good, I'm made out to be a fool? Or did you think that I didn't know about Venom's connection to Eddie Brock, and that thought made me out to be a fool?
Robert Kenny Its true, we don't know how this will play out. But I have my beliefs that Insomiac will try to do something more with this, something great perhaps. So we'll just have to wait and see.
If things work out perfectly( I believe insomniac can do it), it gonna be freaking badass
@@seasonedmind914 we already have red goblin. Do you think this venom/goblin hybrid may look the same but bulkier, black, big spider going chest and back?
It's like a role reversal from The Amazing Spiderman 2 were Norman was the sick one instead of Harry and even the photo in the picture frame Harry looked like James Franco's younger brother.
I was just happy when I saw that thing when playing as MJ, I thought I heard a noise from it "There's someone in here..."
Who is here after the Ps5 trailer ?😂
I never heard Norman say"I love you son" before
Why does everyone want the same story re-told? Eddy has been Venom for years. They did fantastic with this game and have proven they can mix up the story of Spidey we know so well enough while keeping it true to form. Let the next one come out and reserve your judgement until then. Christ.
having harry as venom is like having norman be the lizard
also it wouldn't make sense how will the symbiote have spider powers if hasn't attached to Peter yet
@@SDRich-cb6qc theyll probably make it as more of an abomination created by science as opposed to an alien life form. Bunch of ways they could go about it honestly. Idk im approaching it with an open mind, I like the idea of not knowing whats next as opposed to same story time and time again.
@@mikesinaro that's what I like about venom it wasn't a science creation like nowadays everything is now a science creation gone wrong
I wouldve rather had mac gargon be venom tbh
The reason I don’t want Harry to be venom is because it severely limits what insomniac can do with the goblin(s) later in the series
And because Eddie Brock is the one true venom
I'm curious how they'll fit this in knowing that Eddie Brock is also in the game.. I think the symbiot will leave Harry for Eddie mid way into the game
the symbiote looked like it wanted norman
what about Harry then, isn't the symbiot keeping him alive? Will he just die then?
@Robert Phillips jeez you totally had to use an insult did you
@@solissea3964 maybe Harry will become green goblin somehow and the symbiote will go to Eddie Brock because it seems like the symbiote doesn’t want to merge with Harry
@@chrisnguyen2316 I dont think he ment it as an insult, more of like the games havent made him a key character as of now.
"You know im somewhat of a scientist myself"
I have an idea for how the sequel could play out.
The twist is that the symbiote shown in this cutscene is only just a part of it - a _third_ of it, per say.
Norman was able to get a hold of the symbiote, but most of it escaped the lab before he could contain it. Only one third was in his possession, which was enough to keep Harry alive...but not make him turn into Venom immediately until his health had improved.
The other two parts would go to Spidey, naturally - granting him the symbiote suit. Eddie Brock gets the last part shortly after his reputation tanks, but he doesn't have a 'Venom' form just yet (although he could have freeze-frame/jumpscare appearances as he stalks Spidey, having a Todd MacFarlane-esque Venom design with normal teeth and tongue).
As the game progresses, Spider-Man becomes more and more corrupted by the symbiote's influence, and it even shows in the missions, weirdly telling you to violently beat criminals to a pulp rather than just dispatch them. By the time he reaches Harry, all hell breaks loose.
Harry goes into Venom form, resembling the Ultimate Venom look (with the spikes, deformities and what not) and goes after Spidey in a fit of rage. Symbiote Spidey actually _kills_ Harry by ripping his part of the symbiote off of him and leaving him to die. Suddenly realizing the horrible crime he had committed, his next act was to immediately tear his own part of the symbiote off. But even then, he would not be able to forgive himself for such a horrible mistake.
Eddie gets a hold of the other two parts of the symbiote, finally allowing him to manifest as the real Venom - featuring Insomniac's take on the well-known, traditional Venom design. Knowing everything about Spider-Man, including the fact that he killed Harry out of symbiotically-influenced fury, Venom knew that it would be the perfect opportunity to slander Spidey and ruin him forever, granting Eddie his retribution. He would even go as far as to go to Norman regarding this info, which would cement his slippage down the slope of sanity, and final transformation into the Green Goblin - both blaming Spider-Man for their misery and trying to end him personally.
That’s actually pretty genius. I’ll come back to this 👍🏻
@@OtakuFocus As a bonus I figured that Venom and Goblin would turn on each other because they both want to kill Spidey before the other
And they were definitely planning a sequel hook with Otto...
So if it all comes together, the climax would be a four-way fatal
OH, BOY, if this happens, it would be kino as all hell!
1:08 A part of the symbiote tried to reach Norman's hand. SCARY AS HELL.
Yep
it is :(
i think is Harry controling the Symbiote
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I don't think the symbiote is bonding with Harry but it's keeping him alive
I feel that no one saw the Prototype Goblin Mask on Normans Desk
good catch :D
This is honestly what they should’ve done in Spider-Man 3.
Am I the only one more hyped about Norman becoming the Green Goblin than Venom?
So, in the next game, Norman will turn into the Green Goblin, but not the ultimate version (you can see the glider prototype during the mission with MJ) and Harry will be the Venom of this universe.
A part of his powers has been revealed, also during a mission with MJ when she entered the room.
BUT, he may not be Venom all the time since Eddie Brock is mentioned on a card.
Also Venom, who will already have some spiders powers, could gain more by absorbing Peter at some point. And that would explain how he gains his Spider Symbol on his chest (The white peter has in this game is pretty similar).
What do you think ?
Lucas Margolliet Frankly I’m eager to see their take on both villains. This game was clearly inspired by the Ultimate universe, so I want to see what’ll become of both Harry and Norman. Has Spidey encountered the symbiote already? Is this Venom an alien or an experimental treatment gone rogue, or something new? Who will be Venom’s host in the sequel; Harry, Eddie Brock, maybe even Scorpion as the Sinister Spider-Man? Will Norman be the classic version of GG, the monstrous version from Ultimate Marvel or a bizarre combination of both? What will their motives be to attack Spider-Man, especially after he saved Norman’s life when he was tossed from that rooftop by Dr. Octavius? So many questions, man I’m dying to see the sequel!
I know this will make me sound old, but this reminds me of DC's Static Shock for some reason.
That cartoon also had a wealthy villain who didn't treat his own son right at first,
only to change his tune once he began researching a cure for him.
Yuri: Got a black and white suit?
Peter: Sure
Part of me hope that Eddie Brock is in the next game and in what someone would think is the final Venom fight, the symbiote leaves Harry, sadly killing him, then it finds Eddie. And before that make some stuff happen to Eddie to make him hate Spidey and Pete, then boom, OG Venom. But I think Insomniac will stick to their guns and make Harry Venom. Which is fine too. I just hope he’s bigger than what we saw in the tube
Either Venom, Hobgoblin or wait for it..... THE RED GOBLIN 😈
Justin Lanphear
Red?
@@jeannguyen3199 yes Red Goblin is a hybrid of Norman Osborn and Carnage Symbiote
In the new versions of the comic book
Justin Lanphear nah red goblin only appeared like a month or two ago in comics... he’s too new
@@Nutterbutter123 just a thought it's most likely Venom
"I'll find a cure." Have you tried loud noises?
I don't think the venom symbiote is the disease i think its keeping him alive
Harry as Venom? I see Insomniac took that idea from the Ultimate cartoon.
feyzal92 in a much better way than the actual cartoon
Ultimate Spiderman comics. This game is more less based around it
I miss Eddie Brock
feyzal92 it’s not a bad idea. Especially since that don’t have to shoehorn in Eddie. Don’t misunderstand, I love the Eddie Brock/Venom character, but if Peter is not a reporter for you to have that “rivalry” with Brock, or if you don’t have them have that sort of brother relationship like they had in the Ultimate comics or in Spectacular Spider-Man, I don’t think it would work as well.
feyzal92 well venom symbiot can merge with anyone it wants it even merged with a t rex before
Can’t wait to go against venom as Spider-Man on my ps5
Everyone talks about Green Goblin but who remembers the Hobgoblin?
YESS!!! That's what I think the route is going to go...think about it, Osborn already hired mercenaries in desperation in the first game...I'm pretty sure he'll do some underhanded off the books hiring of another single, well funded (by himself of course),well equipped mercenary who has his tech. Just like in the 90s Spider-man cartoon...although I'm not sure if it was Fisk or Norman who hired Hobgoblin in the 1st place
Brooks Williams Also I think this Norman Osborn would look stupid with some green tights flying around throwing pumpkins everywhere.
@@anakinskywalker2061 Not unless they go the 'monster goblin' route like in the ultimate comics...
I don’t know if anyone said this yet but one question is that where did Norman get the Symbiote, like did he create it or mabey did he get it from Carlton Drake (in reference to the Venom movie), I mean like in the Ultimate Spider-Man series, the symbiotes were nanites created in a lab, but in most of the other series the symbiotes are part of an alien race called the Klyntar
So basically the reason Norman did so many different things including making devils breath was so he can cure Harry of the symbiote
And they said (Insomniac) Venom will not be in this game, in any form.. 😁👍Really hope in the future, they would make dlc or next game with Venom in some part: boss battle, kind of team up with Spidey in some way.. Anyway this is awesome Spidey game
Riku Honkanen Technically, Venom’s not in the game, just the post credit scene. So, technically speaking, he had nothing to do with the actual gameplay. So, in a way, you can say this doesn’t count. Lol.
Domnul L have you never seen venom and spider-man team up against carnage??
Am I the only one who thinks that every single character in this game is the best version of that character ever made?
Venom the main villain for marvel Spider-Man 2 coming soon on ps5
nah they've been planning a trilogy for ages. They have the base game too. 2020.
The ps5 is a long way off. At least another year and a half. Insomniac already have the casting, the mechanics and the world. They can whip up a good story and change some mechanics a bit in like 2 or so years. I reckon the sequel could come to ps4
@@chriswyatt9869 when tho I say 2021 WBU
I don't think the ps5 will come before 2021.
Considering that the rumors about GTA 6 coming out in 2021 are strong it might be a launch title for the ps5.
@@chriswyatt9869 I hope it comes out on ps4
Once i saw the Goblin Prototype Helmet and Grenades in Normans office i knew he would become the Goblin
I would love to play as him in the next game or in an dlc
I never thought a Spiderman game would make me want a PS4
Really thought that the new spiderman game will be featuring venom, but it's miles morales so yeah
Despite how much of a villain he can be as the Goblin, Norman does care for Harry
Norman Osborne's decent into madness is about to start
I hope he becomes an awesome green goblin.
Feeling pretty dumb that I didn't notice the very obvious venom tease when I played this years ago 😂
Harry Osborne looks like Dave Franco
funny cause james franco played harry before
r/woosh
Yes finally someone said I seen this and was like it’s venom
Who’s here after the Miles Morales trailer
I’m pretty sure that Harry is going to become Goblin Venom in Spider-Man 2 PS4!
Okay the way these characters were executed was amazing, I still think Harry should be Green Goblin, and Eddy should be Venom. I mean, it's not like you would make a Batman game with Raz Al Ghul being the Joker or vice verse!
Harry should be Hobgoblin
we did get Clayface as the Joker and that turned out pretty well lol
I hate Harry being the Green Goblin. Norman is the only true Green Goblin
I was really surprised when this scene played
It’s entirely possible that Norman took the symbiote from Brock and introduced it to Harry in the tank in hopes to save him, but it’s rejecting him since he’s a dying host. I think they may go with an Anti-Venom story of the symbiote does bond with him and Martin Li cures him at some point so the suit splits, Harry becoming Anti-Venom and the original Venom going back to Eddie. It’d be a great way to set up a symbiote storyline.
To be honest, I would love to see a Harry Osborn Venom in the next game, whether it be teaming up with Spider-Man or as one of his enemies
Here after the reveal for the sequel. Venom is coming!
Just the thought of how insomniac version of the venom would be on next gen is just so sick!!!
Idc if I’m gonna get called out for it, I would’ve preferred Eddie as Venom. Harry is fine and all, it’s just that I prefer him when he’s either Peter’s best friend or the Goblin.
But seeing as how Eddie already exists in this universe, maybe there’s still a chance of him showing up. The symbiote could probably bust out and find its way onto someone else.
since the MJ mission there i noticed that in Harry’s voice messages he was either being weird when he said he was taking shots in europe (like if he knew it wasn’t the case) and the one on the phone where he asks Norman to get his journal for him when he’s not supposed to be there at all
So no ones gonna talk about how they kept teasing that harry was out of town and then this I was fucken shook when I saw this poor harry
I finished the game for the first time and I had the same reaction
Who’s here after the Spider-Man 2 announcement? ;)
Little green goblin jr is venom now...
Wheres eddie brock?
When I seen this I never thought harry would become venom as a main villain for the next game
Maybe he is venom and will fight peter but peter is not gonna wanna hurt his friend which is gonna make him easy to fight
y'know, if there's one thing this game taught me...it's that I REALLY need to start reading the damn comics
eddie brock:im I a joke to you?
Thank god this was uploaded, my game was just a black screen with sound.
I Don't See Venom's Eyes Or Tongue. But I Do See Black Web Touch Glass To Norman's Hand.
*facepalm*
Who here after the trailer of spiderman 2
I hope this will be dlc and not spider man 2 on the ps5
It most likely will be for spiderman 2 because people are saying he could be the main villain in the next game
Hopefully better be still on PS4
Venom is too big of a villain to be in a dlc. Venom if one of the few villains that deserve the main spotlight in a spiderman story in my opinion.
The fact that he is overthinking for a cure is kinda funny when one of the easiest way to remove a symbiote is simply by playing dubstep music or a church bell
SuperMocha Cappuccino he is not trying to remove the symbiote
They better use the movie model for Venom in the next game, as they did with the Iron Spider suit. #WEAREVENOM
And the symbiote suit
One of best after credit I ever seen
The “cure” could be anti-venom
Who here after Spider-Man 2
Me
They should make a dlc when you fight venom
Nah he's most likely gonna be the main villain of the next game
Actually, it’d be better if it were in a DLC.
it would be cool if we could play as him in a dlc or in the next game
Why waste venom in the next DLC when you can prepare the Venom Fight in the sequel in preparation for Maximum Carnage for the third installment?
It'd be better if we had venom in the sequel
Predicted Villains Roster for Spider-Man Sequel:
-Green Goblin
-New Goblin
-Venom (Possibility for redemption)
--(Hopefully Venom means that Spider-Man might be able to get the Symbiote Suit.)
-Carnage
-Riot
-Kraven the Hunter
-The Prowler (Since Miles Morales.)
-Sandman
-Paste-Pot Pete (Possible joke villain.)
-Return of Kingpin (Possible begrudging ally? It’s a long shot, but Peter did acknowledge the necessity of Fisk as New York’s crime regulator when the Demons came around following Fisk’s arrest, so its possible, but still improbable.)
-Return of Doctor Octopus (MIGHT be redeemable in this world. Maybe not. Have to wait and see.)
For all the people that keep saying Venom is made for Eddie and Eddie only, may I remind you that in the original comic's he was first attached to Deadpool? Does that mean you want Deadpool on your next *SPIDERMAN* game?! Now the fact is that Insomniac is already doing a great job creating their own version of our favourite wall crawler and they are already thinking about the squeals as it seems. If you ask me it's much better than repeating the same old pattern over and over again.
Not just sequels, as of the latest press release Marvel has given Insomniac their blessing to make whatever marvel character they so choose since they did such a great job on this one. A huge honor for Insomniac
Damn thats amazing!
Green Goblin and its really true about Venom wow I hope the explain it in next Spiderman PS4 game
Wait, so is he inside the symbiote or was he infected with that diesease and Norman put him in the symbiote to sustain him?
Noah Yeah.
Nah, it seems that Harry was infected by the symbiote and Norman created the devils' breath to kill it
@@RagaGearforever5 I don't think that's possible man, considering the symbiote literally kills diseases, it's more than likely keeping him alive at this point while Norman finds a cure
There are multiple possibilities.
In this story the symbiote might've been man-made and Norman tried to cure Harry's illness with it but the plan backfired.
Or maybe Harry just got infected with the symbiote and Norman is trying to get rid of it.
What Harry has is a genetic disease inherited by his mother (didn't you play the game?). Norman puts him in that glass chamber with the symbiote and uses a trip to Europe as a cover. How Norman acquires the symbiote we don't know... But the glass container and the symbiote (assuming it is one) is sustaining Harry until a proper cure for his disease is found. Its obvious that the symbiote is not completely bonded with Harry but enough to keep him alive - i think the properties in the chamber are preventing that whilst also helping Harry. The symbiote does have healing properties as it staved off Eddie Brock's cancer in the comics, but this scene sets up the fact that Harry's supension is going to go completely wrong.
I think Harry as Venom will work fine, but if you collect the backpack with the farewell card to Peter from the Daily Bugle, you'll see Eddie Brock's signature on it, so that could be something.
NO! Harry is green goblin and Eddie Brock is venom!!!!
jimkef1 in Ultimate Spider-Man, Harry was Venom for the first 2 seasons I believe. Then they made Flash Agent Venom. For what they’re doing, it would make sense to turn Harry into Venom, especially if Oscorp are the ones who made the symbiote.
Roman Review Corner ok but I. The Ultimate Spiderman comics, you know the source material for that show, Venom was Eddie Brock
This is a different universe, get over it.
The Symbiote could easily just jump off of Harry. Remember, if Venom is in the next game, then we need the black suit. Don't just jump to conclusions.
Probably Eddie lost the symbiote
I would love it If they made it so when you bond with the symbiote, it turns any suit you're wearing, into a symbiote version.
Really dude
good thing that I past the main story of marvel spiderman
I'm ok with him with being attached with a symbiote, but honestly I hope they don't make him venom! His predecessor maybe but not venom! I also hope they make Norman the first Green Goblin because every time they start with Harry it's a disaster.
People are so upset bout Eddie not being venom, they forget it’s entirely possible to make an enjoyable story even while changing core elements in a tired tale.
So Norman also wants Peter's powers? Why all these spiders?
so basically whats happening here is that the symbiote kills if its not a perfect match and harry is slowly dying from it so i guess they tied to find a cure to get rid of it so there is a possibility that a dlc could come out of this
Nah venom is too big to be dlc it will be in the sequel
Harry is Venom
No
the dark Phantom what
@@kendallallen2898 he is not venom look again
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