Steel Ship Rundown, December 2023 - It's a Ship Show! - World of Warships - Clyde Plays LIVE E101
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- Ruggiero di Lauria, Bourgogne, and Gato! Join Skada and myself as we discuss the current crop of WOWS steel ships just in time to use your new 25% of Resource Ships coupon in World of Warships!
// FIND ME ON TWITCH - TUESDAY & THURSDAY 8pm Pacific - SATURDAY 9am Pacific
www.twitch.tv/clydeplayslive
// JOIN THE CLYDE PLAYS DISCORD!
/ discord
// FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER
/ clydeplaysgames
// GET FREE PREMIUM SHIPS FROM WARGAMING WHEN YOU CREATE A NEW ACCOUNT
New to Warships? Create an account using my link and you get free stuff like bonuses and free premium ships! To get free things use this link to create your account, it costs you nothing and helps the channel: warships.us/clydeplays
// BOOKMARKS
0:00:00 Intro
0:01:35 Steel Ship Metrics, General Rambling, and Nonesense
0:12:34 FDR, T10 CV, United States
0:27:37 Shikishima, T10 BB, Japan
0:40:50 Mecklenburg, T10 BB, Germany
0:50:01 Incomparable, T10 BB, United Kingdom
1:00:14 Bourgogne, T10 BB, France
1:14:15 Austin, T10 CL, United States
1:29:43 Gato, T10 SS, United States
1:43:06 Stalingrad, T10 CA, Soviet Union
1:52:46 Z-42, T10 DD, Germany
2:01:49 Ragnar, T10 DD, Europe
2:16:30 Plymouth, T10 CL, United Kingdom
2:29:05 Vallejo, T9 CL, United States
2:36:12 Ruggiero di Lauria, T10 BB, Italy
2:57:42 Clyde and Skada's Top Three Ships
03:07:22 A Tech Tree Ship Show?
03:10:00 Thanks and Outro
03:11:10 Outtakes
// MUSIC
The Vendetta by Stefan Kartenberg (c) copyright 2018 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. dig.ccmixter.org/files/JeffSpe... Ft: Apoxode 
Игры
I've been away from the game for at least six months now, but I can still appreciate a good Ship Show. As always, keep up the great work Clyde/Skada 👌
I'm honestly frightened to see what awaits me if/when I come back 😬
I love ship show, tech tree thoughts would be interesting for a future episode, or even discussion on removed ships
Thanks for the feedback!
What a pleasant surprise, another Ship Show.
This one is WAY more metal.
I did Bourgogne a few days ago and don't regret it at all!!! I will do Incomparable or Stalin in 6 months.
Borg! Amazing ship. Thanks for watching.
I stumbled upon your videos and really enjoy your ship show format! PLEASE make it for research bureau ships soon!
Words cannot express how happy I am to provide you this link: ruclips.net/video/ARgvXF3tc9E/видео.html
We did the Research Bureau ships back in May - and its fairly current. We'll do it again in the spring. Thanks for watching and commenting. :D
Great video! Thanks!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!
Got the Austin when the coupon reset. I am loving this ship. In the middle of grinding the Pan-Asian cruiser line, noticed that both the Sejong and the Jinan use the same hull and excited to get them too!
Yeah boy! Austin is so dumb. Very fun to play. Glad you like it!
It really is dumb. Got comfortable in it right away. I get now why it can be so devastating in the right hands. Hit the funny button and I just start laughing as I watch hit points melt away from the poor person on the other end.
Maybe also worth knowing about Lauria is that her SAP still overmatches 30mm like her AP does and won't riccochet on most cruisers for that reason (especially older ones Like Zao, Des Moins or Hindenburg).
Another (IMO stupid thing) is, that cruiser with less than 114mm of citadel armor like Mino, Brisbane, Jinan, Austin and Smolensk will actually get citadelled by the SAP ... which got a higher Alpha than the AP shells and they won't overpen or bounce. This thing is just a Thanos snap for ultralights.
LOL, Thanos snap sent me. Thanks for watching.
@@ClydePlays Thanks for another ship show! These Videos/Streams are always great to watch/listen to!
You betcha!
Vallejo has been my favorite ship I have gotten for steel. It feels unique. It is open water and like most light cruisers it can be unforgiving. I like the balance of the ship.
Salem is pretty fun played bloke that. I imagine it'll be similar, but with better gun velocity.
It's a ship I want, but it takes so long to get steel and it's not top of the list.
Same!
That's the danger and joy of light cruisers. Tons of fun that ends very suddenly. 😂
one thing to note about Lauria: it is by far the most accurate Italian BB (same dispersion as Thunderer with only 0,1 Sigma less)
Good point!
Oh yeah baby! Was waiting patiently for that. Thank you so much
We got your back!
Austin is one I can speak on pretty extensively. Got it a month ago, have put 250 battles into it already because I adore it.
Austin thrives in opportunities. If you are firing at other cruisers (minus petro and a few of the tank ones), british BB's, french BB's and any DD with SAP, you will MELT them. Any of the tankier ships, like Montana's, GK's, Preussen, etc.... you go for fire starting, bait them into damage control and then when it's on cooldown you spin up the reload booster and starting 1-3 perma fires. If someone gets brave enough to push you, that's when those torps come in handy. Also as you're moving from position to position, you can launch your torpedoes down high traffic lanes and because of their unusual (for US ships) speed and range, they do fairly well.
It's also amazing to go into a match and ask the DD's to pair up with you and get a smoke from them and help them contest and decimate a cap so they can be safe as your smoke firing penalty is almost DD level. They love that I can chase away most cruisers as well, so that gives them free reign to go after the battelships.
AA cannot be understated either, this thing DECIMATES aircraft. I've had Malta's come after me when I have my DFAA up and wiped out entire squadrons of planes and it's such a joy to watch.
Yes. All of this. Austin
I'm only here for one thing today - and that was Lauria.
Putting it out of sequence, unkind Sir! Unkind...
But good Antipodean accent for Eraser(??) in the Bourgogne section (Bourgogne... my sweet, sweet Bourgogne).
That was an Antipodean accent right?
Well done Sir, well done!!! The Antipodean accent is usally a challenge for our rebellious cousins and that was a fine rendition.
It wasn't on purpose! I made the graphics before they officially released Ruggiero di Lauria. Glad you found the section for RdL.
Re: My Eraser impression, thanks.
FDR was my first steel ship, though I don't play CVs, because I was stationed on her 1975 - 77, my first ship in the Navy.
That's fantastic. Did we talk about this on stream? Or have I met two people who served on the FDR and bought it as their first steel ship!?
I may have got the wrong end of the stick with the side topic of French battleships, but for anyone wondering:
- Normandie was laid down with quad turrets because French manufacturing couldn't produce larger guns at the time, so they opted for quantity. These wre cancelled mid-construction and Bearn was turned into a CV.
-Lyon was a planned enlarged version of Normandie that never saw light of day.
-Picardie in game is a fictional version of Lyon with smaller guns, not sure why (WG?).
- Dunkerque is pretty much a battlecruiser built to combat the Deutchlands, though it was designed a battleship by the French.
- Strasbourg is a half sister of Dunkerque, and is more a battleship in terms of armour - comparable to previous French battleship anyway.
- The Richelieu Class is Frances big new battleship in the late 1930s / early 1940s (consists of 2 Richelieu and Jean Bart).
- Clemenceau is was the third Richelieu under construction and had a slightly modified design - some consider it a sub-class (not in game and wasn't finished).
- Gascogne is the last of the Richelieus. The French had second thoughts about the all forward layout and decided to try a more traditional layout. There's a lot of debate about if this was a good choice or not, but it wasn't finished regardless.
- Champage is a fictional version of Gascogne under a fictional scenario that France buys Soviet 16" gun turrets. It's weird and random and completely fictional.
-Republique in game is completely fictional also and assumes after Alsace France could go for another Gascogne style ship. It's kind of out of nowhere and a WG fabrication.
- Alsace was Frances next planned class of battleship. This was still in early planning stages when the war broke out and France didn't even have the infrastructure to support these yet. It was way behind the Lions in terms of construction and could well have been cancelled ir reduced in size.
-Bourgogne is just a fictional 2nd Alsace in game.
French shipbuilding was behind the curve for the late 19th and early 20th century due to policy decisions made in the mid-19th century. They were playing catch-up through WW1 and the interwar period and were often a generation behind everyone else when it came to battleships. Everything preceding Dunkerque would most likely lose to most equal counterparts (apart from the Españas) in a fair fight, but that doesn't make them useless. Bretagne is a good looking ship in my opinion though.
Nice little review of the French BBs! Thanks for watching and sharing!
Clyde is the only guy in WOWS who pronounces Incomparable the correct way.
Haha, thanks. Now if I could only pronounce the rest of em right!
Regretted my z42 purchase when I purchased, now I love it and have a fairly good WR on her. Those burst smokes with the Hydro combo catches so many dd’s off guard.
Nice. I gotta give mine another shot.
It's a ship thta needs a very specific play stile to be successful...
I hope you're happy Clyde, i spent 8 hours writing a document about all the resource ships in the game for my clan.
Fun fact: There's 1 more steel ship than RB ships.
I couldn't be happier! Haha, I hope you found some of the resources on this channel helpful to you. Your clan probably thinks of you as a hero.
They better fuckin be, im the clan documentarian now lol
Actually Mecklenburg's hull is something in between FDG and GK.
Oh yeah? I'll have to dig into this one a bit more! I'm interested in these little subtleties when we see ships with armor profiles modified from ships we've already got in the game.
I'm pretty sure war gaming chooses carefully what ships they make steel ships and what ships they make coal etc, etc. They need to give these ships the fictitious value based on the currency you spend on them. Something about the ships abilities make it special and they all have a powerful component that gives them an edge.
Yeah they want us to rant the ships in order to effort earning them, 100%. Thanks for watching!
Great video, Clyde! Did you guys not have an opinion on the tier 10 Ruggiero di Lauria?
It's there at the very end! Check the bookmarks!
FDR shines late game. Its great, but the rocket nerf and the cooldown between strikes are the biggest turn offs. Add Malta and Nakhimov being better overall, i would recommend to use your steel on another bote. My favorite is Mecklenburg.
Yeah that's a fair assessment I think. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this topic.
Unlike most people, I do not like Bourgogne. It's accuracy doesnt impress me for a steel ship and its not very acclimated to how my matches go(i.e. being able to take large amounts of he). I actually regretted getting it and I wished I got something like a stalin or something unique like incomp, shiki, or mecklenberg with their uniqueness. With getting Wisconsin, I do not see a place for this ship except for the one in a year game just for filling a role in a div.
An uncommon opinion for sure. Too bad you don't enjoy her. Hopefully you'll enjoy Wisconsin if you go for it.
I'm enjoying the video a lot. One remark re. the bookmarks: Vallejo is T9, not T10.
Thanks for the note! I'll fix it right away.
@@ClydePlaysCool. Also, I just noticed that the timestamp for the Lauria seems off.
Thank you! It was 10m off, and thus invisible! I wish I had seen this earlier. Thanks again Tango!
tech tree ships is interesting, should consider the line grind and how they feel, not everyone likes playing at t10 all the time.
I like that. Talk about the road to get to the ship, not just the ship itself.
exactly! @@ClydePlays
I have 7 out 13 Steel ships , in order I get those Burgugone , Shikishima , Stalingrad , Incomparable , Plymouth , Mecklenburg , Gato I have now 20.054 steel + cupon , and I will go for Ragnar , I could wait month and get new Italian BB, but Ragnar is good & OP , WG might remove it .
Ragnar is decent for sure. Thanks for watching!
I suppose this is why we see so many Ragnars. 🙃
I don't get why people recommend Shiki or Stalingrad. If you have a crap ton of steel or only play CB sure get stalinrad. Otherwise, get the yamato from tech tree, it's a sidegrade of shiki, and get the petropavlovsk, almost a stalingrad.
I'm about to get my first steel ship and I have 3k+ battles, buying Stalingrad or Shiki would be an absolute waste of steel.
also the tokens camo if you didnt caththem for steell when event was; have that 2 cool camos;]
Got Lauria with my steel and so far it's been worth it. I like playing Polo so Lauria feels pretty easy to handle already, even if it is pretty damn long (and has a worrying tendency to eat 5k+ salvos in the rear from heavy cruiser AP...), and some of the salvos i've had out of it have been filthy. Nothing on the level of vermont or ohio erasing some cruisers from existence, but still very good damage. Even used it in clan battles and got a win in it. overall it was worth the wait to get it again after that stupid event.
now bring back the ranked/clan token camos for something people can actually buy them for weegee
Yeah, I think Lauria is a reliable ship, that will be popular with a small group of people who can make it work without getting tOo beat up. She's more interesting to me than Incomp or Shiki for sure.
@@ClydePlays incomp is too inconsistant for my liking, and then weegee kinda kneecapped it by releasing Vincent right after it. Shiki got done dirty the same way, though at least Satsuma is just as hideously expensive, just in a much easier resource to earn. But at least I can run a secondary build on Shiki because 2 harugumos bolted to the sides go brrrrrr.
I play shiki with heavy ap shells, now its worth it :)
Nice! I might need to try that on the ol' press account.
Same. When the shells bite, they really bite.
However, I generally prefer playing Vermont and find it more consistent.
I just got the Meck and I’m struggling with it. For a ship with good accuracy I’m not doing much damage.
The HE is a bit of a help there I'm told - I know that's not a typical scheme for German BBs, but give it a shot and see how she does. Thanks for watching!
The Lauria is imo the best Steel ship to buy atm.
Lauria is pretty dope. I'm surprised I don't see more of her around, but maybe after the next steel coupon comes back we'll see more people playing her.
I'd really like a tech tree t10 review
Cool. I think they're coming in the spring, after the barnacles. 🙂
30:10 rember super ship is like "do you want to lose creditns?"
Speaking of Kitakami.. When the review is coming? I mean less a week and the event will start and it's still under NDA 😕
It's out right now!!! ruclips.net/video/nK-Xj3SwH2g/видео.html
Are you updating the Santa crate spreadsheet this year ?
Hey Troy! There's good news and bad news here.....
The bad news is that I won't be doing a container simulation this year, I've got a TON going on this season with other content and such.
The good news is, the containers are EXACTLY the same as last year (in terms of drops - the ship lists have of course changed) so last year's video and data is still good. You can check it out here: ruclips.net/video/ZFuRLdIfyzw/видео.html
@@ClydePlays oh nice! Thanks for the response
8:40 my guess is ; BB are more popular??
Yeah could be! Hoping for more DDs soon.
29:35 but shiki have advante of premium ship; A bonus and B free captin muving;
Truth. Thanks for watching!
i got the FDR for my one and only steel sheep day before they gutted it ive played it less than 10 times. deep deep buyers remorse.
Aww. That's rough. That happened to Skada and another member of our clan as well. It's rough when that happens. 😢
Many people said Plymouth is a bad ship, but i definately not regret getting this ship. Whenever i feel like hunting dd and cruiser, this is my go to ship. I spec the radar which can last for 45 sec and boy... those dd really hate me. With smoke + 45 sec 9km Radar + 9.1km concealment, no dd dare to go into cap. Also it got 16 guns with 5.9sec reload AP shell, it can really pack a punch to dd and cruiser. On the fun factor, it can achieve at least 9/10.
Do you find using a Dunkirk captain useful or just using a standard captain. Bought the second Dunkirk captain for dubs when on offer recently and looking at getting upto 21 pts for Plymouth. Haven’t bought Plymouth yet but will be next steel ship.
I used to love Plymouth, but rarely play it since getting Gibraltar, another ship people don't seem to like for some reason. Gibraltar is such a good and fun ship in ranked.
@@michaelmcnally2331 Plymouth is performing very well with normal captain. I do not think you need any special captain for it. Before you get Plymouth, make sure you watch other youtubers playing it as not everyone might enjoy playing this ship
@@Joshua-fi4ji I do not enjoy playing Gibraltar due to few reasons. It is a big ship with big firing penalty inside the smoke. When enemy push in below 10km from you, you need to stop shooting and start moving away from your smoke. If enemy dd is around, you will be busted shooting inside smoke. It got no torps to slow down any pushing enemy, and it's gun reload time are not optimal for farming dd or cruisers.
@@Nobody7881 I just find it's fun and one of the most reliable ships for carrying ranked games. It doesn't have radar or torps, but those are its only real weaknesses and honestly radar would be OP with those guns.
no Di Laria?
Di Lauria is at the very end. I made the graphics before it was officially released. Check the bookmarks if you wanna go check that part out right away.
can you rank the steel ships, from best to worse.
Hey!
It's not really possible to list them in an absolute order because ships and players are so different and complicated.
I can tell you about my favorites based on my preferences though, so I'll put them into three groups:
FAVORITES
Bourgogne, Austin, Plymouth, Ragnar, Mecklenburg, Gato
MEDIUM
Stalingrad, Vallejo, Ruggiero di Lauria
LEAST FAVORITE
Z-42, Incomparable, Shikishima, FDR
I reserve the right to change these groups at any time in the future, haha. Thanks for watching!
@@ClydePlays Thanks this will help me for my up coming steel purchase.
I'd recommend getting more than just my opinion too!
I know a LOT of players who would put Incom or Z-42 higher on their personal lists and would put Austin, Plymouth, and Vallejo at the bottom....I just happen to enjoy light crusiers, personally.
Thanks again. :D
Wow viewing 3 minutes after posting!
Hot off the presses!
Austin reload booster Atlanta Def AA
Huh . . . 5 months later and there are still 13 Steel Ships. We knew this already, but Wargaming is not listening.
Yeah, seems like its time for a new one!
@@ClydePlays No changes that I noticed, but you do seem to crack them out a couple of times a year.
You said z52 has no way to heal. Where's your Lutjens
You got me!
50:10 we cant comper in comprebele; she is incombreble
Fake AA strength. Truth. To quote a famous 'almost anyone' player, the AA does nothing...
Funny how it went from AA ships could destroy all planes in 1 pass, now you might shootdown 2 planes in 3 passes
In this case, the AA really does nothing, haha.