Intel has done a marvelous job this time. More FPS with less thermal impact than competition. I'm impressed. Battlemage would be quite promising as well!!
since we have no clue about the cooling solution on both tested setups, how can you tell that ? there is literally not information available to draw any such conclusion ... the temperature displayed is meaningless if there's no cooling system information ...
@@lubossoltes321 Most HX 370 cooling solutions should be made capable of cooling more than 30w. Lunar lake is designed by OEMs with thin and light Laptops, so many of them will have equal or lower cooling performance than HX 370.
yes battlemage will be a true competitor for RDNA 4 it may even kick amd in the teeth no wonder they are suddenly singing different tune about capturing maket share and brining budget products..... plus rdna 4 raster is as same as rdna 3 raster but raytracing is where the real battle will happen intel already had good raytracing base but rnda 4 will try to get better raytracing this time, i think battlemage will win
Da para perceber que quem fez esse teste é amante da Intel, o teste deveria ser feito com seus processadores em stock, e ele capou a potência da AMD porque sabia que ia dá uma surra na intel, incrível que só nos testes do canal dele a AMD se saiu pior, quem quiser pode pesquisar por outros testes no RUclips e vai ver que a AMD se sai muito melhor.
i think for mini pcs it is the worst choice since you are not limited by batter drainage. 50-70w chip makes more sence and this cpu can not perform after 30w
It's amazing that you can show that even if I had a doubt with your vid because at IFA I heard directly from Intel staff that they dont wanted to show another game with intel Arc 140v because it's ATM not optimized, some game crash, and they're not proud about the performance. From what laptop those results come from ?
I don't see that much difference, and the most important thing is that with AMD you can expand the memory and update at a faster speed, something that can't be done with Intel, and especially now that ultrabooks are coming out with LPCAMM RAM, which is being a revolution. My choice for my laptop is an AMD and the AMD Z2 is still to come out.
What RAM speed did each of devices operated? VRAM speed is crusial for iGPUs performance and can make a heck of the difference... I think there is a trick in this comparison ;-)
Duh, tricks? See again what minimum Ram and Vram them use.. Intel Using RAM that is directly installed on their chip.. while AMD uses the latest minimum RAM settings Where if the laptop uses DDR5 then it is faster than Intel. What again? Nothing trick about this comparison. Even the IGPU have more low RAM.. See again speed and used ram in comparison, Intel use more low than AMD. That proves that Intel is more efficient, also look at CPU usage, where Intel uses more than 50%, which indicates that their ecore is being used effectively...
Yes its in the handheld msi claw 8 ai+ thats planning to be released January 2025 but unsure about what type of lunar lake chip they use and how much ram but its something to look forward to but i think its gonna be bloody expensive. Maybe 850 or 900?
If this is real, AMD is organizing a lot of meetings for sure 😂 I don’t like Intel (but I’m no AMD fanboy) but I must say that they did a great job with their iGPUs! (If this is real). But the price will matter: if a laptop or handheld is 15% cheaper with AMD and both are comparable, I’d go AMD.
If your intention is pure gaming, choose AI 9 HX. It comes paired with dGPU. Unlikely with lunar lake, so far NONE of the commercial models Comex with dGPU. But we have handhelds with Lunar lake, at least the new MSI claw.
AMD should care much more about the iGPU, the CPU is bored at 30% all the time, wasted resources for gaming. The video is 3 months old, so it's not that representative anymore.
I don't think AMD is little bit slower than Intel, it's could be affect for slower RAM speed, but although FPS is little bit lower, AMD have AFMF Frame Gen in driver to boosting FPS on game doesn't support FSR 3.0 and above, where Intel doesn't have this
In low tdp them more great, because Intel more worse if them use more watt.. It is explained in another RUclipsr video.. it's why them max tdp just 37 watt..
Ah so Intel barely managed to get even with AMD. About time after all those years. Now let's hope their drivers improve (especially under Linux so SteamOS is viable). It would be nice to see some HW specs of the tested setups here. Makes for a proper comparison instead of just a marketing video.
Goddamn....😂 These are iGPU in a smaller package and low power. You have that with such nice fps is already a blessing. Expect 3 years more to have 8Gb iGPU with that kind of efficiency 😂😂😂😂
This test version probably confirms that the RAM is soldered directly to the chip belt, so it doesn't consume as much RAM as RAM soldered to the main board.
proves that ram soldered to the CPU will be faster and less full of memory, 2 results show that intel ram uses less system ram than amd, do you guys have any other thoughts?🎉
well i knew intel this time will be better but the vdo is not real since only ai9 is just sold but for intel there is laptop that shows performance with less games. raw power intel wins by 10-15% but the intesting part is intel can use ray with less trouble then amd. just wait for lunar lake came out first and u can decide for ram i think may the background program is diff
Not just on package memory, but also inside the SoC there is 8MB of System Level Cache that is also accessible for the GPU. I believe there can be some cases where Intel can just turn on the e-cores while turning of the P-cores cluster to allocate the extra TDP to the iGPU.. this is also thanks to unpairing e cores from the L3 cache ring on P cores clusters. a genius move from Intel.. this Lunar Lake is actually more of a overpowered tablet and handheld CPU than being a conventional laptop PC processor.
Intel has done a marvelous job this time. More FPS with less thermal impact than competition. I'm impressed. Battlemage would be quite promising as well!!
since we have no clue about the cooling solution on both tested setups, how can you tell that ? there is literally not information available to draw any such conclusion ... the temperature displayed is meaningless if there's no cooling system information ...
@@lubossoltes321
Most HX 370 cooling solutions should be made capable of cooling more than 30w.
Lunar lake is designed by OEMs with thin and light Laptops, so many of them will have equal or lower cooling performance than HX 370.
yes battlemage will be a true competitor for RDNA 4 it may even kick amd in the teeth no wonder they are suddenly singing different tune about capturing maket share and brining budget products..... plus rdna 4 raster is as same as rdna 3 raster but raytracing is where the real battle will happen intel already had good raytracing base but rnda 4 will try to get better raytracing this time, i think battlemage will win
Da para perceber que quem fez esse teste é amante da Intel, o teste deveria ser feito com seus processadores em stock, e ele capou a potência da AMD porque sabia que ia dá uma surra na intel, incrível que só nos testes do canal dele a AMD se saiu pior, quem quiser pode pesquisar por outros testes no RUclips e vai ver que a AMD se sai muito melhor.
Wow youre quick! Thank you!
I'm sooo excited for Battlemage GPUs with XeSS and newer Ray Tracing Technology!!
did i just see an IGPU run black myth wukong on high??
using fsr AND frame generation
I mean if you call 30-40 FPS / 1080p / No Ray Tracing "running", then sure
yeah am as shock as u 😅😅
Must've been with frame gen and scaling. Edit: confirmed in the video it shows rendering at 720p with frame gen.
Welcome to 2024 gaming brother 🎉
So Intel wasnt lying? Honestly I can't wait to see the Core Ultra 9 288V Mini PCs!
i think for mini pcs it is the worst choice since you are not limited by batter drainage. 50-70w chip makes more sence and this cpu can not perform after 30w
Well that's a quick turnaround for Intel. The only issue may be the lack of ram upgrade available. Looks good otherwise.
they're both non-upgradeable, though the ryzen one seems easier to fix since the ram isn't soldered into cpu substrat but rather on the motherboard
It's amazing that you can show that even if I had a doubt with your vid because at IFA I heard directly from Intel staff that they dont wanted to show another game with intel Arc 140v because it's ATM not optimized, some game crash, and they're not proud about the performance. From what laptop those results come from ?
I don't see that much difference, and the most important thing is that with AMD you can expand the memory and update at a faster speed, something that can't be done with Intel, and especially now that ultrabooks are coming out with LPCAMM RAM, which is being a revolution.
My choice for my laptop is an AMD and the AMD Z2 is still to come out.
Ultra 7 vs R ai 9 😮
What laptops did you use?
I would like to see it in handheld.
Would like to see a comparison with AMD Fluid Motion Frames 2 enabled.
What RAM speed did each of devices operated? VRAM speed is crusial for iGPUs performance and can make a heck of the difference... I think there is a trick in this comparison ;-)
Duh, tricks? See again what minimum Ram and Vram them use.. Intel Using RAM that is directly installed on their chip.. while AMD uses the latest minimum RAM settings Where if the laptop uses DDR5 then it is faster than Intel. What again?
Nothing trick about this comparison. Even the IGPU have more low RAM..
See again speed and used ram in comparison, Intel use more low than AMD. That proves that Intel is more efficient, also look at CPU usage, where Intel uses more than 50%, which indicates that their ecore is being used effectively...
Does 288V come as an option for handheld?
@@LordEthan2
Yes its in the handheld msi claw 8 ai+ thats planning to be released January 2025 but unsure about what type of lunar lake chip they use and how much ram but its something to look forward to but i think its gonna be bloody expensive. Maybe 850 or 900?
@@jackykwan2580 in january AMD is launching Ryzen Z2 Extreme "Strix Halo"
@jackykwan2580 hoping they launch a 32 gig option
@@DanielZyewhich will be based on this same AMD chip.
Since it's Arc, does it still have trouble running older games? That would be a deal breaker for me.
its fixed
What laptop models are you using for this test?
What notebooks ang gpus?
If this is real, AMD is organizing a lot of meetings for sure 😂 I don’t like Intel (but I’m no AMD fanboy) but I must say that they did a great job with their iGPUs! (If this is real).
But the price will matter: if a laptop or handheld is 15% cheaper with AMD and both are comparable, I’d go AMD.
If your intention is pure gaming, choose AI 9 HX. It comes paired with dGPU.
Unlikely with lunar lake, so far NONE of the commercial models Comex with dGPU.
But we have handhelds with Lunar lake, at least the new MSI claw.
AMD should care much more about the iGPU, the CPU is bored at 30% all the time, wasted resources for gaming. The video is 3 months old, so it's not that representative anymore.
I don't think AMD is little bit slower than Intel, it's could be affect for slower RAM speed, but although FPS is little bit lower, AMD have AFMF Frame Gen in driver to boosting FPS on game doesn't support FSR 3.0 and above, where Intel doesn't have this
no… amd has lost one of its specialties!! NOOOOOOOOO
Gotta redo it now with 24h2 windows update.
Anything less than 60fps is unplayble in my book.
How about the price? Which one is cheaper?
I think same.. them, Intel, AMD, and snapdragon new AI gen.. them all up $1300 or more.
Intel has good performance at 30w, but it is not known how it will perform at low tdp
In low tdp them more great, because Intel more worse if them use more watt.. It is explained in another RUclipsr video.. it's why them max tdp just 37 watt..
Why there's 30 wat limit?
if you dont put them in the same watt, how you compare?
why not test on medium ?
if med intel will win even more because more powerful single core
Intel uses 8533mhz ram, and AMD use unknown speed ram, please tell us AMD ram speed not until third party reveal the truth.
that amazing for intel...
Is this real?
Ah so Intel barely managed to get even with AMD. About time after all those years. Now let's hope their drivers improve (especially under Linux so SteamOS is viable). It would be nice to see some HW specs of the tested setups here. Makes for a proper comparison instead of just a marketing video.
"after all those years", this is intels 2nd generation GPU focused on gaming.
who r u?
why 4gb vram. why not 8gb vram
Goddamn....😂
These are iGPU in a smaller package and low power.
You have that with such nice fps is already a blessing.
Expect 3 years more to have 8Gb iGPU with that kind of efficiency 😂😂😂😂
This test version probably confirms that the RAM is soldered directly to the chip belt, so it doesn't consume as much RAM as RAM soldered to the main board.
proves that ram soldered to the CPU will be faster and less full of memory, 2 results show that intel ram uses less system ram than amd, do you guys have any other thoughts?🎉
well i knew intel this time will be better but the vdo is not real since only ai9 is just sold but for intel there is laptop that shows performance with less games. raw power intel wins by 10-15% but the intesting part is intel can use ray with less trouble then amd. just wait for lunar lake came out first and u can decide for ram i think may the background program is diff
Not just on package memory, but also inside the SoC there is 8MB of System Level Cache that is also accessible for the GPU. I believe there can be some cases where Intel can just turn on the e-cores while turning of the P-cores cluster to allocate the extra TDP to the iGPU.. this is also thanks to unpairing e cores from the L3 cache ring on P cores clusters.
a genius move from Intel.. this Lunar Lake is actually more of a overpowered tablet and handheld CPU than being a conventional laptop PC processor.
intel driver is different from amd graphics driver. amd driver try to add more thing in ram to render faster but still lose intel