Unlike what you said: "I know we're all excited for that Sonic Dream Team." I'm really not, for I am unfortunately an android user without any apple products.💀
Their sonic unleashed adaptation was peak. I think the most interesting part tho was that they saved it for last, because as a concept it really feels like it should've been sonic's final stories with how high the stakes are. In game it's treated as a minor inconvenience at most which is funny
@@siftknife761bro has spent the last 3 hours of his life sitting here (probably with no clothes on) crusading the entire comment section complaining about this, lol. i don't think he has actually read the comic nor does he plan to
Archie Sonic Online, the fanmade continuation of Preboot Archie, actually finishes the Mecha Sally arc (plus King Naugus) in a satisfying way. They also finish Sonic Underground, which is also surprisingly well written
@@isthisagoodusername9764 better stories than the games ? Even though those comics have girls with no clothes so I’m not sure what do you mean by being better
I'm still eternally salty that we bever got true closure for the story they had set up for the Pre-Reboot Archie Era. I feel like that was when the comic's story was really at its peak with the amount of shit that was going down, and the stakes were some of the highest in any Sonic related content. But you know, Penders and lawsuits and all that stuff.
ken penders is one of the few humans that i can earnestly say has contributed little to nothing to the world. all he did was ruin a decent comic with his bizarre, creepy, and convoluted dumpster fire stories. and he just couldnt stop there he had to prevent it from continuing when it got really good (thanks to his lack of involvement) and reached its peak. his victory in that case is just one of many examples of the circus that is the legal system.
Splash Dash: *Says Sonic: Genesis is the best Sonic story of all time.* Japanese Metarex Arc: “Are you challenging me?” Memes asides, Genesis is also one of my favorite Sonic stories, and also one that I feel desperately deserves more praise. So it’s nice to see a fellow enjoyer of this arc give it a well-deserved spotlight.
GOD DAMN IT, MARK. I normally don't like talking about Sonic stuff anymore but fuck it, yeah, this was a legitimately GREAT arc with the worst "conclusion" possible. We'll never see Sonic and Sally have the chemistry they did years ago, and that's a damn shame because it was so well-written. I didn't think it had such an impact on my tastes in romantic chemistry in fiction until you reminded me. Great video and great trip down memory lane. And i hate you for making me care about SonAlly again.
I love just how much of a fun event this is, Spaz and Tracy Yardley’s art really elevate this to a cinematic experience. I’m kinda surprised you didn’t mention the mini stories about Genesis Bunnie(she existed in that timeline and was a relative to Cream the Rabbit.)
The brief time Bunnie was related to Cream felt in part like an overcorrection, but not without reason. I'm more surprised she wasn't in the main story of Genesis.
Shadow Shoot has such a good story that was one of the most deep and impactful stories to ever grace the sonic series! It made me cry and fall into a deep existential crisis about my own life! I was never the same since honestly
I had the Sonic Super Special Magazine 1 when I was a kid and it had the first part to the Genesis story! I don't think I'd remember that comic without this video
i think i had something like that too! It also had a story about scourge being created i believe? And also one where eggman goes insane fighting sonic and ends up in a mental ward or something
@@iceman92211 Still hung up on that? Also I feel as if you're referring to some of the creepy stuff from Ken Penders, which I agree, should not have been in there in the first place. But that dude was fired relatively early in the Archie comics line.
I wonder what the storyline would’ve been like had Ken Penders never won his lawsuit… Maybe Sonic & Eggman would have another “final battle” similar to Issue 50 and Super Sonic would have all his friends return to normal after the dust settles.
It’s not my favorite Sonic story, but it’s one hell of a good one. Archie’s a big old mess, but it does have in my opinion some of the best Sonic stories of all time. Same with STC. Fleetway’s Death Egg Saga is rad as hell
The last thing I can remember happing in this arc is that sonic, tails and Amy made a group of “new freedom fighters” and traveled the world after sally got killed did that have any resolution before the mega man crossover happened?
Well at the end so to speak silver went back in time and told them the traitor was sally acorn he's done it twice befor with rutor and antigone and he went with sonic tails and amy with the artic freedom fighters after finally finding a cure for the robotizer in the storyline with mecha knuckles sliver takes out mecha sally seconds befor everything went white and mega man came into sonics world with Dr wily
11:46 That’s not actually true. After the reboot, Sonic kept his memories, and with Nicole’s help, he had Tails, “Ixis Naugus” (now just Naugus), Rotor, Antoinne, Bunnie, and Sally all recover their memories. It’s just that due to the rebooted world, they had to reconcile that none of the things from the past could ever truly be “resolved”. Eggman also remembers everything because he was the one that got the Super Genesis Wave to misfire. Also, you read that right. Amy, Knuckles, Cream, Shadow, Rouge, the Chaotix, Big, Blaze, Marine, Silver, etc etc etc, all don’t know their old lives. They may as well be completely different people. And then the series was cancelled. THAT’S ARCHIE, FOR YA!
This really is the best issue of the original run... To give the later run credit though, I LOVE its adaptation of unleashed, and its world is so engaging. A fantastic little run with an actual ending! (there is an unfinished set of adaptations of the genesis games right at the tail end but the primary arc actually concludes which is a fantastic place to stop)
As someone who started mid-Genesis and more considers herself connected to the Reboot, it's like it took the highlights of what made Sonic good (Lowart's "the world is the main character" meets a Sonic that is more open to embracing its continuity).. and I love that. Sure, yes, the preboot had an unintended downer-ender. But if you consider some of the last issues can be almost like "everyone has lost something out of their own control" (Rotor's back, Sally's original limbs and free will, Bunnie's identity as the cyborg, Antoine's comatose state, Nicole's reputation and device), the reboot makes for a great catharsis. We see Sally under a king who isn't oppressive and restrictive, an Antoine who is more in-the-moment, a Bunnie who in spite of her homesickness brings togetherness, a Rotor who can be involved with his friends, a Nicole who was there for all of them instead of beint shafted. Sure, designs can be improved on, sure the personalities have shifted around. But after nearly 20 mainline issues and several more from Universe, Genesis does what Endgame couldn't. Set up a catharsis that Sally and her pals almost earned, and truly earned in spite of the intersection of Worlds Unite.
@@amesstarline5482 I think the only cathartic moment it was missing was something more between sonic and sally. There's a tearful hug feel that it really doesn't last long enough, especially after Sally regains her memories. The erasure of their relationship is the main thing that sticks out about that run and I'm just so bummed it got destroyed right when it was TRULY hitting its stride.
As a fan of Sally's dynamic with Nicole in the reboot, sure it's like a yank away to have a relationship recover and then pull away, but I'm glad she found someone that was more on her level. (In a way, Mecha Sally in preboot is one last "I want the world and everyone to be safe, before myself")
You know i’m glad people are starting to appreciate and understand that archie sonic. It wasn’t all that bad it had its lows but it had a lot of amazing highs.
Honestly, the Genesis arc has become one of my favorite Sonic stories, up there with the Metarex arc in Sonic X. I just like the stories that don’t shy away from really kicking down the heroes or leaving it off on depressing or even heartbreaking endings to a character relationships.
Dude. This comic was a HUGE part of my childhood. While I am in the US, I was just a kid. I didn't know much about the internet, and this comic was so fun and nice that I have kept it with me. Some pages have fallen out, but it's a footnote of me being a fan of Sonic.
I remember reading this comic as a kid. The visual of Sonic realizing Sally had been shot, with the broken goggles on the ground, right as the genesis wave goes off was so surreal, like "Holy shit, they actually did that". Archie Sonic went hard, and I'm still so pissed at Penders for ruining it.
Before I watch this video I better get out my torch and pitchfork just in case. Don't think I ever forgot your friend LS Mark telling Cybershell straight to his face on LIVE Television that Sonic Heroes has a better story than Adventure 2, and you agreeing with that statement.
SEGA should really consider bringing back the Freedom Fighters into IDW. You could say they’re old friends of Sonic to explain why they know so much about him, which makes sense given they were in Spinball. If Sticks and the IDW characters can be canon to the games, I don’t see why that shouldn’t extend to the Archie guys as well
@@10001vader If the Freedom Fighters were owned by any third-party, it'd be WildBrain, who currently has the rights to DiC's Sonic cartoons. That said, it's been known for years that Sega of America owns the Freedom Fighters, at least in their OG forms. Archie only has the rights to anything new they created for the Freedom Fighters, so, any plotlines or biography not originating from SatAM, or redesigns, for example. Nicole can't be a lynx, Sally's dad can't be named Max or Nigel, and the post-SGW designs can't be used, but if Sega ever wanted to build upon the SatAM cast and reintroduce them into IDW or the games, they can. They just don't have any interest in doing it.
Can we take a moment to talk about how insane the super genesis wave is in terms of powerscaling? Because if you think about it, the archie sonic comics had an entire multiverse going on with evil counterparts, universe-destroying beings, and a zone police trying to keep everything in order. And the Super Genesis wave completely rewrote all of it. It didn’t do just that, it also dragged the Mega Man universe with it, and entirely different reality that operates on entirely separate rules and overall had nothing to do with each other. Pretty sure that in terms of powerscaling it’ll be an Omniversal or Extraversal feat (Sidenote: it also is a shame these crossover comics ended up negatively affecting the mega man archie comics, their run ended abruptly with so many unresolved plot points and the only thing left being a vague blueprint of what they wanted to do)
i think it's even more insane that fucking mammoth mogul powers up to basically being a god for reasons i can't be assed to explain, to the point where he can literally crush *entire universes* with his fist. like every other "mammoth mogul becomes a god" story he's defeated almost instantly, this time by a bunch of tails combining and becoming buff. stuff like this makes me think that any thought behind the powerscaling in archie is basically non-existent tbh so i tend to just not think about it.
@SplashDash_ Have you ever heard of Archie Sonic Online because that is where a group of Archie Sonic Fans got together and made their own continuation of the Archie Sonic Story.
My first and only comic was when I had an Amazon Kindle and before Archie and Sega discontinued their partnership I read the Silver Saga, it was a very simple comic but nonetheless very memorable, really hope the games lean towards that level of story from now on
Sonic funnily enough, can _never_ catch a break, can he? i think i may have been a little too harsh on Sally and freedom fighter Fans, they really deserved to come back, IAN did the most jaw dropping fixes I've seen done in a comic, and the fact that it all never got to properly end on a good note is so, so sad...
For me, it's gotta be a three-way tie between black night's story, metal virus arc in idw, and scrapnik island, idk there's just something about those story's that just made it my favorites, of vourse archie has really great story's too, but these 3 story's are just my absolute favorites
the second half of archie sonic ( basically anything after issue 159 ) is my favorite thing from the sonic franchise seriously the amount of great characters and great stories from archie made me really enjoying it while reading it and also made me think about them for a long time after reading it and because of that i love it more than any sonic game or cartoon and its not about nostalgia because i started reading them only 2 years ago ( and it was after reading IDW sonic ) archie has the best world building and the best stories and its characters are the most realistic and relatable ones ( yeah i know they are flawed people but that is what makes interesting )
Never read Archie Sonic but for all the flack it gets I really really like the IDW stories. Metal Virus is still one of my favorite Sonic stories ever. The concept of Sonic having to "keep on running" to keep himself alive is such a cool idea that fits perfectly with his character.
Metal Virus actually started out as a planned storyline for the archie book. Bringing Ian Flynn on as the first lead writer for IDW worked really well to give the comic a strong start
To be honest there are a few Archie Sonic stories that CLEAR IDW’s best, including the Metal Virus saga. I seriously recommend you give mid-late Archie a try if you’re a fan of Sonic comics. And maybe check out the early stuff if you feel like you need extra context for lore and a few important events. It’s especially unique because it pulls stuff from a bunch of different material and concepts from all over the franchise and mixes it into one continuity.
I loved this mecha sally arc, it really tugged on the hearstrings. I use to read the beginning of the arc to the halfway point as a distraction when my dad passed away around that time. Small win for me since I hated Sally Acorn but sad that they never concluded the archie comics in a proper way. (Nor did the Sonic underground comics finish the show’s story so rip)
I cried when during the Sonic and Mega Man crossover, Mega Man shouted: "I was never book smart, I'm money smart, Makes me more intelligent, Call me Mr. Rock festival, I got hella bands, Shorty cute, and her circle too, Told her get a friend, She gon' make me slide with my dog, like I'm Mega Man." Truly the crossover of all time, I can't wait for January 7th to hit.
Imagine the world, where instead of frontiers; the first sonic game written by Ian Flynn adapted this story line, and had sonic meet his friends for the first time and slowly begin to remember his past life; remembering events up to sonic and the black knight. But however, Sonic can’t set everything back, and eventually learns to keep going with what he has rather than chasing what he doesn’t, and leaving the past behind with his new friends to look towards the future.
@@iceman92211 Dude, what is your problem? I see this reply under every comment in this video and it has literally nothing to do with the story at hand. You do realize that they gave Sally clothes post-Super Genesis Wave, right? Even if they didn't genuinely who the fuck cares, are you really that perverted that you just can't handle Sally's character design?
@@evdestroy4121 because it looks very humanoid and awkward and embarrassing and it’s very important for the girls to have clothes because that’s how the rules are in this franchise so character like this is illegal and should not exist
@@iceman92211 Those rules weren't a thing when Sally was created lmao, she predates every other female Sonic character. If anything, by your logic it should be the other way around since Sally set the original standard. Also, if you think it's embarrassing, I'm sorry but consider going outside.
@@evdestroy4121 well, it’s official you’re American First, that rule actually was always a thing from the very beginning it’s the Americans, who made it look like it wasn’t a thing by creating this character Second, what do you mean that she sent the original standard ? are you seriously believing everything from your own country ? Because you seem to forget that the Sonic franchise as a whole was created in Japan Third I think the more question is, how do you think she looks OK like this ?
I had these comics too, but as separate volumes The prologue wasn’t in any of them, it started with Sonic in green hill going “where am I?”, and I had no clue what he was talking about. So when I got to issue 3, I had no clue why out of nowhere, Sonic got tall and knew he had to save Sally. Then I read Sonic genesis, and I was like “hey, issue 3! Wait, why is the opening longer? Hey, why doesn’t Sonic go to save…” Then Sally died. I was SO confused.
Instantly captivating, emotional, action-packed with the heart as a precedent to make it mean something.. But it's all on the friendships, and even relationships that hinge on the free spirit of Sonic that make it work. We will never get any of it again...
To be honest the whole Eggman screwing up Sonic’s attempt to destroy the Super Genesis Wave and causing his parents to be PERMANENTLY erased would have been a justifiable reason for Sonic to just straight up kill him. I mean all of the people he lost and have met in the pre reboot universe are gone including his kids from both Light and Dark Mobius
It's a tie between the Metal Virus saga and Sonic 06 for me. The scale, the epicness, the cast, the villains, the everything really, I adore these 2 stories
This comic is after Ken Penders left, a fairly large reason for the genesis wave was to get rid of his characters. So none of his art, the really skinny and kinda weird looking art, or any of his plot lines made it in.
One word for this whole development. SADFACE. But in all seriousness, I had a lot of love for the Archie series, even through all the insanity it endured. It was around for the longest time and admittedly I grew out of the series before this exact point given how out of control it had gotten. I wish I could go back and remain conscious of the series but I guess I don't entirely regret it. The latest iteration is still a blast from what I've read.
Hey Mark, did you see the fan comic that continues past where the reboot would’ve happened? I think you’ll REALLY like what they did with the Mecha Sally plot!
The best sonic story that I can think of in recent memory is IDW's metal virus Arc. It was amazing and well done i heavily recommend it to sonic fans if they havent read it. Theres even a full dub of the comics on RUclips
@@iceman92211 Why do you assume that, of all things, that's what my interest is about, considering that just as many girls did wear clothes and just as many guys did too.
@@andyz6306except that’s the sonic franchise you’re talking about which is the franchise that has all the girls wear clothes with no exception so that’s why characters like those don’t work
Wow this was a great and emotional comic from archie Sonic This is why I love Sally and the freedom fighters They're such great well written characters and I love them so much Please Sega bring back the freedom fighters Stop treating them like they're nothing
You should read Archie Sonic Online fancomic if you want to see a conclusion to the Mecha Sally storyline, the art is pretty accurate to the official comics
I hope this comic story can have an impact on the Sonic videogames story.Yeah I know that Sonic Frontiers have that story and I wish Forces have that story except Tails scare of Chaos 0. But unfortunately we can't have that dream due Archie cut ties with Sega and Ken Panders does Ken Panders things. I wish for other future Sonic games to have ties to the comic book series.
@@mumbojello because it’s destroying the consistency of the girls in the franchise and also there are people who do care but they’re just too scared to say it but not me
@@mumbojelloit’s because he’s just too afraid to admit that he’s horny about Sally acorn, he feels ashamed so he’s trying to make sure everyone definitely knows he hates how she isn’t covered up. He DEFINITELY doesn’t like it, that’s why he keeps bringing it up obsessively in comments that don’t even mention it. Definitely don’t think that because he keeps talking about how he hates it actually means he secretly likes it. All jokes aside, this guy is just projecting his own horniness. Nobody else is bringing it up, yet if you look, he’s in many replies constantly talking about this. I’m sure he’d realize that he’s just exposing himself as a closet pervert if he just wacked one off and went about his day. He’s probably some poor religious kid who was taught to be afraid of anything resembling a female curve.
Man i have had this book for like 5 or so years already and since i didnt have any other knowledge on the archie comics i just never found out what happened next. until now that i know it basically just ends without a conclusion lmao what
I really wanted only Sally to appear in the games and be a well-crafted character, not the mess she was in Archie... Except in her last comics. I really hope she appears in the games canonically. Without being Sonic's girlfriend, we all know that Sonic belongs to Amy lol I want her to be the group's best friend.
Just so you know there actually is a fan continuation of the original Archie Sonic comic that picks up right where the original series left off. It's called Sonic the Hedgehog Online, and you should really check it out if you wanna see what happens to mecha Sally and stuff. It's a really good continuation if you ask me.
Genesis' ending is really good, but the arc itself is kinda mid, honestly. We're right in the middle of an invasion and the return of the Death Egg, and retelling Sonic 1 and 2 is what we want to be doing? If I'm being real, this feels like the first time SEGA stepped in and said "Sonic 4 is coming out, do this", I doubt anyone in the creative team actively wanted to revisit the games with the least story in the whole franchise. My personal favourite issue is 175, where Eggman comes along, kills everyone, and then kicks Sonic's ass. There's even a moment where you think Sonic is going past his limit and turning the tide, only for Eggman's armor to still be just fine. And then Sonic just has to sit there, among the wreckage, and realise he's failed. It's powerful stuff. Overall, I'd still say IDW is better. It's what I want when I think "Sonic comic", Sonic characters going on Sonic adventures. The OCs take less space and fit much better into the world. Dr Starline (a character based on a glitch from Knuckles' Chaotix) taking over the Eggman empire using the Sonic Heroes cores just feels more natural than Eggman's A.I. son infusing Tommy Turtle with nanites to make him stronger than Ultimate Life Form to accomplish the same thing. That being said, Archie has a special place in my heart for allowing the staff to do things they could never do nowdays. Like make the characters cry. Can't do that anymore. Sonic is dehydrated.
@@iceman92211 iirc I rmb them entering the ship, going against silver, sally dying & after the world was painted white, the next few pages were a bunch of ads for issues, + a bit about eggman winning by painting the world white the next issue (which was genesis iirc lol) it was literally the prior issue lmao
@@trainerred6990 yes because otherwise he’s just wasting his talent on something very inappropriate when he could’ve done it on something much better than this.
I remember this story almost solely because I remember a friend crying to ME because I was the only person that would GET why Sally's essential death was so heartbreaking to her. She put that trust into me. Middle school me replied with "Oh thank god, finally"
“I know it’s Mecha Sonic, but they call it Silver Sonic, just deal with it.” I’ve always known him as Silver Sonic, so its not my problem. Honestly Silver Sonic is the better name as Mecha Sonic’s already the name of the robot used from Sanic 3 & Knipples.
@@iceman92211 I don’t see how Silver Sonic’s name would cause confusion as everyone calls Silver Silver, or Silver the Hedgehog. If anything, the word Mecha Sonic creates more confusion as Mecha Sonic was the name of the robot from Sonic & Knuckles.
Man Archie Sonic was great compared to what we have now with IDW. Idk IDW just feels so empty and doesn’t have the world building or characterization that Archie had. I loved Sonic and Sally’s chemistry and you just..l don’t get anything like it in IDW
@@HazeX2it did ruin the characters and made them stupid and for it’s not just her backstory they also made her a boring character and she didn’t even interact with any character
I've never actually read the Archie comics. I've only....okay mostly....okay more than half the time have heard good things about it and it's characters, this being one of them. This comic freaking rules with how it tells it's story especially with that awesome ending. I'll probably never read through Archie (that's probably One Piece levels of story beats I'll have to go through to actually understand everything) and I have become very attached to what IDW does even with the flaws I think it has but I will always appreciate this piece of Sonic history for being so daring and drastic all the way up until they had to cut it off and start anew.
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Unlike what you said: "I know we're all excited for that Sonic Dream Team." I'm really not, for I am unfortunately an android user without any apple products.💀
Could you talk about the future stuff in archie?
Mobius: X Years Later, Mobius: 25 Years Later and Mobius: 30 Years Later
Since you talked about the first Genesis Wave event, would you consider doing a review of the Worlds Collide comics?
Sonic X for the Leapster’s story made me cry. Truly one of the games ever made.
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What is the song used for the end of the video, or the video card at the end? 12:10
Agreed
It's eggman's super sucky machine
Archie Sonic really was such a unique experience for the franchise. I honestly wish I could experience the magic of it for the first time again
I think you should wish for never experiencing them at all due the girls with no clothes in them
@@iceman92211you’re still doing this, get over it you weirdo
Their sonic unleashed adaptation was peak. I think the most interesting part tho was that they saved it for last, because as a concept it really feels like it should've been sonic's final stories with how high the stakes are. In game it's treated as a minor inconvenience at most which is funny
@@_G.Cbut honestly that feels like the Americans rant out of ideas and decided to take the game stories instead of doing their own
@@iceman92211what's wrong, you gay?
Finally, a crumb of respect for Archie Sonic. These issues came out when I was just getting into Sonic. Glad people still remember it fondly.
Why give respect to the comics that has girls with no clothes ?
@@iceman92211don't you fucking start. Shut up and enjoy it.
@@siftknife761you’re telling to enjoy comics that has girls with no clothes ?
@@siftknife761bro has spent the last 3 hours of his life sitting here (probably with no clothes on) crusading the entire comment section complaining about this, lol. i don't think he has actually read the comic nor does he plan to
@@haha_hollie of course I’m not reading them why would you want me to sit through a lot of comics with girls with no clothes
Archie Sonic Online, the fanmade continuation of Preboot Archie, actually finishes the Mecha Sally arc (plus King Naugus) in a satisfying way. They also finish Sonic Underground, which is also surprisingly well written
Bro thank you for bringing this up. Didn't know about it before, it looks rad.
Thank you @Cremotor, happiness is achieved again
Since when was there a Sonic Underground comic?
How are they gonna deal with Charmy?
Got a link?
10:13 This moment collectively broke anyone who was invested in the original Archie Sonic continuity, the following issues weren't any better.
What’s the point of following non canon and inappropriate comics in the first place ?
@@iceman92211 The stories have their own Canon, and up to this point in the series are plain better stories than most of the games.
@@isthisagoodusername9764 better stories than the games ? Even though those comics have girls with no clothes so I’m not sure what do you mean by being better
@@iceman92211what point are you trying to make? Lol
@@ZillaYT. pointing out how inappropriate these comics are.
I'm still eternally salty that we bever got true closure for the story they had set up for the Pre-Reboot Archie Era. I feel like that was when the comic's story was really at its peak with the amount of shit that was going down, and the stakes were some of the highest in any Sonic related content. But you know, Penders and lawsuits and all that stuff.
Yeah! Ken Penders ruined the partnership between Sega and Archie Comics.
ken penders is one of the few humans that i can earnestly say has contributed little to nothing to the world. all he did was ruin a decent comic with his bizarre, creepy, and convoluted dumpster fire stories. and he just couldnt stop there he had to prevent it from continuing when it got really good (thanks to his lack of involvement) and reached its peak. his victory in that case is just one of many examples of the circus that is the legal system.
Flynn, Spaz, Herms and Yardley were literally the dream team. As good as IDW is I don’t think it’ll ever get back to that point
for sure, it's a shame but at least we can re read them
Splash Dash: *Says Sonic: Genesis is the best Sonic story of all time.*
Japanese Metarex Arc: “Are you challenging me?”
Memes asides, Genesis is also one of my favorite Sonic stories, and also one that I feel desperately deserves more praise. So it’s nice to see a fellow enjoyer of this arc give it a well-deserved spotlight.
Metarex arc is actually good and better and has no girls with no clothes on
End of story
@@iceman92211being uncomfortable is a mood
@@aubueruser7228 which is a one I don’t like being in.
@@iceman92211 You're really annoying
GOD DAMN IT, MARK. I normally don't like talking about Sonic stuff anymore but fuck it, yeah, this was a legitimately GREAT arc with the worst "conclusion" possible. We'll never see Sonic and Sally have the chemistry they did years ago, and that's a damn shame because it was so well-written. I didn't think it had such an impact on my tastes in romantic chemistry in fiction until you reminded me.
Great video and great trip down memory lane. And i hate you for making me care about SonAlly again.
It’s actually great that we will never see Sally again due to her lack of clothing in the franchise that has all girls with clothes on
@@iceman92211 Son, have you ever seen John Wick?
@@dumbsville what does John Wick have to do with anything here ?
At least its better then Alpha and Omega
@@iceman92211 Who cares if Sally had clothes or not. It wasn't her fucking personality
As much baggage archie carries it also has some just outright amazing stories too.
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@@NitPickerYT NitPicker jumpscare
But the girls with no clothes ruined these stories
@@iceman92211 do u think the evil within will be added in dead by daylight?
I love just how much of a fun event this is, Spaz and Tracy Yardley’s art really elevate this to a cinematic experience.
I’m kinda surprised you didn’t mention the mini stories about Genesis Bunnie(she existed in that timeline and was a relative to Cream the Rabbit.)
The brief time Bunnie was related to Cream felt in part like an overcorrection, but not without reason. I'm more surprised she wasn't in the main story of Genesis.
Probably not enough time for it tbh, but it would’ve been great to see a more SatAM Bunnie in Genesis.
Shadow Shoot has such a good story that was one of the most deep and impactful stories to ever grace the sonic series!
It made me cry and fall into a deep existential crisis about my own life!
I was never the same since honestly
same, but imo Sonic Crackers and Sonic X for the Leapster have stories that are way better tho
When shadow shot the tubing I starting crying in amazement
Shadow Shoot is one of the games ever
Once again, give it up for Ken Penders: "The Worst Thing To Ever Happen To Sonic The Hedgehog".
I had the Sonic Super Special Magazine 1 when I was a kid and it had the first part to the Genesis story! I don't think I'd remember that comic without this video
i think i had something like that too! It also had a story about scourge being created i believe? And also one where eggman goes insane fighting sonic and ends up in a mental ward or something
@@thegamerstg3592 that’s the one!!! I used to have a physical copy but I don’t anymore unfortunately. But it’s free online!
SEGA restricting any romance gets more and more frustrating
The thing is, in order to have a compelling romance, you need good writers, and I'm genuinely not sure the current writers can handle that just yet.
It’s for better because we don’t want girls with no clothes in the games
@@iceman92211 Still hung up on that? Also I feel as if you're referring to some of the creepy stuff from Ken Penders, which I agree, should not have been in there in the first place. But that dude was fired relatively early in the Archie comics line.
@@XavierDaSalla it doesn’t matter who is the artist because the girls with no clothes still exists anyway
@@iceman92211 are you talking about anything specific? Because that's very vague
I wonder what the storyline would’ve been like had Ken Penders never won his lawsuit… Maybe Sonic & Eggman would have another “final battle” similar to Issue 50 and Super Sonic would have all his friends return to normal after the dust settles.
It's either Secret Rings, Black Knight, or SA2
Honorable mention to the finale of SR Zero Gravity, peak
no, it’s definitely Sonic X for the Leapster I have no idea what you’re on about
@@CTGReviews Alright, you don't need to spam it in the replies
Black knight imo cant change my mind
It’s not my favorite Sonic story, but it’s one hell of a good one. Archie’s a big old mess, but it does have in my opinion some of the best Sonic stories of all time. Same with STC. Fleetway’s Death Egg Saga is rad as hell
It’s not some of best because it has a lot of girls with no clothes
@@iceman92211 do u think the thing will be added in dead by daylight?
The last thing I can remember happing in this arc is that sonic, tails and Amy made a group of “new freedom fighters” and traveled the world after sally got killed did that have any resolution before the mega man crossover happened?
Well at the end so to speak silver went back in time and told them the traitor was sally acorn he's done it twice befor with rutor and antigone and he went with sonic tails and amy with the artic freedom fighters after finally finding a cure for the robotizer in the storyline with mecha knuckles sliver takes out mecha sally seconds befor everything went white and mega man came into sonics world with Dr wily
11:46 That’s not actually true. After the reboot, Sonic kept his memories, and with Nicole’s help, he had Tails, “Ixis Naugus” (now just Naugus), Rotor, Antoinne, Bunnie, and Sally all recover their memories. It’s just that due to the rebooted world, they had to reconcile that none of the things from the past could ever truly be “resolved”. Eggman also remembers everything because he was the one that got the Super Genesis Wave to misfire.
Also, you read that right. Amy, Knuckles, Cream, Shadow, Rouge, the Chaotix, Big, Blaze, Marine, Silver, etc etc etc, all don’t know their old lives. They may as well be completely different people.
And then the series was cancelled.
THAT’S ARCHIE, FOR YA!
This really is the best issue of the original run... To give the later run credit though, I LOVE its adaptation of unleashed, and its world is so engaging. A fantastic little run with an actual ending! (there is an unfinished set of adaptations of the genesis games right at the tail end but the primary arc actually concludes which is a fantastic place to stop)
As someone who started mid-Genesis and more considers herself connected to the Reboot, it's like it took the highlights of what made Sonic good (Lowart's "the world is the main character" meets a Sonic that is more open to embracing its continuity).. and I love that.
Sure, yes, the preboot had an unintended downer-ender. But if you consider some of the last issues can be almost like "everyone has lost something out of their own control" (Rotor's back, Sally's original limbs and free will, Bunnie's identity as the cyborg, Antoine's comatose state, Nicole's reputation and device), the reboot makes for a great catharsis. We see Sally under a king who isn't oppressive and restrictive, an Antoine who is more in-the-moment, a Bunnie who in spite of her homesickness brings togetherness, a Rotor who can be involved with his friends, a Nicole who was there for all of them instead of beint shafted. Sure, designs can be improved on, sure the personalities have shifted around. But after nearly 20 mainline issues and several more from Universe, Genesis does what Endgame couldn't.
Set up a catharsis that Sally and her pals almost earned, and truly earned in spite of the intersection of Worlds Unite.
@@amesstarline5482 I think the only cathartic moment it was missing was something more between sonic and sally. There's a tearful hug feel that it really doesn't last long enough, especially after Sally regains her memories. The erasure of their relationship is the main thing that sticks out about that run and I'm just so bummed it got destroyed right when it was TRULY hitting its stride.
As a fan of Sally's dynamic with Nicole in the reboot, sure it's like a yank away to have a relationship recover and then pull away, but I'm glad she found someone that was more on her level. (In a way, Mecha Sally in preboot is one last "I want the world and everyone to be safe, before myself")
You know i’m glad people are starting to appreciate and understand that archie sonic. It wasn’t all that bad it had its lows but it had a lot of amazing highs.
It doesn’t deserve any appreciation because it has girls with no clothes
Honestly, the Genesis arc has become one of my favorite Sonic stories, up there with the Metarex arc in Sonic X. I just like the stories that don’t shy away from really kicking down the heroes or leaving it off on depressing or even heartbreaking endings to a character relationships.
And you like stories that feature females with no clothes ?
I never how much I needed Mark doing comic reads and summaries in this format. You gotta do more for sure
Dude. This comic was a HUGE part of my childhood. While I am in the US, I was just a kid. I didn't know much about the internet, and this comic was so fun and nice that I have kept it with me. Some pages have fallen out, but it's a footnote of me being a fan of Sonic.
I remember reading this comic as a kid. The visual of Sonic realizing Sally had been shot, with the broken goggles on the ground, right as the genesis wave goes off was so surreal, like "Holy shit, they actually did that". Archie Sonic went hard, and I'm still so pissed at Penders for ruining it.
Those comics were never good to begin with due to Sally’s lack of clothing.
Before I watch this video I better get out my torch and pitchfork just in case. Don't think I ever forgot your friend LS Mark telling Cybershell straight to his face on LIVE Television that Sonic Heroes has a better story than Adventure 2, and you agreeing with that statement.
We just gonna ignore Sonic's casual Rizz at 5:17
No one is paying attention to it due to the inappropriate thing that Sonic is holding
@@iceman92211 do u think they will add puppet master to dead by daylight?
@@iceman92211you call a woman a thing??
@@JuanPablo-su6vw yes because she’s not wearing clothes
SEGA should really consider bringing back the Freedom Fighters into IDW. You could say they’re old friends of Sonic to explain why they know so much about him, which makes sense given they were in Spinball. If Sticks and the IDW characters can be canon to the games, I don’t see why that shouldn’t extend to the Archie guys as well
Sega doesn't own the Freedom Fighters. Archie does. After the fiasco with Ken Penders, Sega isn't going to go anywhere near characters they don't own.
@@10001vader If the Freedom Fighters were owned by any third-party, it'd be WildBrain, who currently has the rights to DiC's Sonic cartoons. That said, it's been known for years that Sega of America owns the Freedom Fighters, at least in their OG forms. Archie only has the rights to anything new they created for the Freedom Fighters, so, any plotlines or biography not originating from SatAM, or redesigns, for example. Nicole can't be a lynx, Sally's dad can't be named Max or Nigel, and the post-SGW designs can't be used, but if Sega ever wanted to build upon the SatAM cast and reintroduce them into IDW or the games, they can. They just don't have any interest in doing it.
Why do you wanna bring back the team that has a leader with no clothes on
@iceman92211 it's not like she has a detailed vagina or something
@@10001vader how can you be so wrong so confidently?
Can we take a moment to talk about how insane the super genesis wave is in terms of powerscaling?
Because if you think about it, the archie sonic comics had an entire multiverse going on with evil counterparts, universe-destroying beings, and a zone police trying to keep everything in order. And the Super Genesis wave completely rewrote all of it.
It didn’t do just that, it also dragged the Mega Man universe with it, and entirely different reality that operates on entirely separate rules and overall had nothing to do with each other. Pretty sure that in terms of powerscaling it’ll be an Omniversal or Extraversal feat
(Sidenote: it also is a shame these crossover comics ended up negatively affecting the mega man archie comics, their run ended abruptly with so many unresolved plot points and the only thing left being a vague blueprint of what they wanted to do)
i think it's even more insane that fucking mammoth mogul powers up to basically being a god for reasons i can't be assed to explain, to the point where he can literally crush *entire universes* with his fist.
like every other "mammoth mogul becomes a god" story he's defeated almost instantly, this time by a bunch of tails combining and becoming buff. stuff like this makes me think that any thought behind the powerscaling in archie is basically non-existent tbh so i tend to just not think about it.
For me, the best Sonic story has got to be Scrapnik Island. And no, it's not just because of Mecha Sonic (though it's a decent part of it, lol)
Easily the best Sonic Story has to go to Sonic the Hedgehog's GameWorld.
I will now has to agree
ok but scrapnik island is a masterpiece beyond all comprehension
@SplashDash_ Have you ever heard of Archie Sonic Online because that is where a group of Archie Sonic Fans got together and made their own continuation of the Archie Sonic Story.
My first and only comic was when I had an Amazon Kindle and before Archie and Sega discontinued their partnership I read the Silver Saga, it was a very simple comic but nonetheless very memorable, really hope the games lean towards that level of story from now on
Finally, somebody is talking about the Sonic Archie Comics, literally the best Sonic media in entire franchise
Check out the video series by Lowart, its a really good deep dive into the Archie comics
idk bout that, it’s Sonic at his best, but also at his worst.
It's actually gained a lot more attention this year from people like Lowart, IanWaffles, and the Silver Ac01.
Even though those comics have girls with no so yeah makes so much sense to call them “ the best “
@@iceman92211 do u think the walking dead will be added in dead by daylight?
Sonic funnily enough, can _never_ catch a break, can he?
i think i may have been a little too harsh on Sally and freedom fighter Fans, they really deserved to come back, IAN did the most jaw dropping fixes I've seen done in a comic, and the fact that it all never got to properly end on a good note is so, so sad...
No, those characters should never come back because Sally herself is not wearing clothes
For me, it's gotta be a three-way tie between black night's story, metal virus arc in idw, and scrapnik island, idk there's just something about those story's that just made it my favorites, of vourse archie has really great story's too, but these 3 story's are just my absolute favorites
the second half of archie sonic ( basically anything after issue 159 ) is my favorite thing from the sonic franchise
seriously the amount of great characters and great stories from archie made me really enjoying it while reading it and also made me think about them for a long time after reading it and because of that i love it more than any sonic game or cartoon
and its not about nostalgia because i started reading them only 2 years ago ( and it was after reading IDW sonic )
archie has the best world building and the best stories and its characters are the most realistic and relatable ones ( yeah i know they are flawed people but that is what makes interesting )
Sometimes I remember SplashDash is my age and we litteraly had the same childhood it's funny to have someone talks about the childhood i had
Never read Archie Sonic but for all the flack it gets I really really like the IDW stories. Metal Virus is still one of my favorite Sonic stories ever. The concept of Sonic having to "keep on running" to keep himself alive is such a cool idea that fits perfectly with his character.
Metal Virus actually started out as a planned storyline for the archie book. Bringing Ian Flynn on as the first lead writer for IDW worked really well to give the comic a strong start
Stay away from those comics because they have girls with no clothes there
To be honest there are a few Archie Sonic stories that CLEAR IDW’s best, including the Metal Virus saga. I seriously recommend you give mid-late Archie a try if you’re a fan of Sonic comics. And maybe check out the early stuff if you feel like you need extra context for lore and a few important events.
It’s especially unique because it pulls stuff from a bunch of different material and concepts from all over the franchise and mixes it into one continuity.
@@fklondikeno don’t force him to read inappropriate comics
@@iceman92211 sure lmfaooo
I loved this mecha sally arc, it really tugged on the hearstrings. I use to read the beginning of the arc to the halfway point as a distraction when my dad passed away around that time. Small win for me since I hated Sally Acorn but sad that they never concluded the archie comics in a proper way. (Nor did the Sonic underground comics finish the show’s story so rip)
I cried when during the Sonic and Mega Man crossover, Mega Man shouted: "I was never book smart, I'm money smart, Makes me more intelligent, Call me Mr. Rock festival, I got hella bands, Shorty cute, and her circle too, Told her get a friend, She gon' make me slide with my dog, like I'm Mega Man."
Truly the crossover of all time, I can't wait for January 7th to hit.
Imagine the world, where instead of frontiers; the first sonic game written by Ian Flynn adapted this story line, and had sonic meet his friends for the first time and slowly begin to remember his past life; remembering events up to sonic and the black knight. But however, Sonic can’t set everything back, and eventually learns to keep going with what he has rather than chasing what he doesn’t, and leaving the past behind with his new friends to look towards the future.
Not really I didn’t like Frontiers but I will still take it over this story that has a girl with no clothes
@@iceman92211 Dude, what is your problem? I see this reply under every comment in this video and it has literally nothing to do with the story at hand. You do realize that they gave Sally clothes post-Super Genesis Wave, right? Even if they didn't genuinely who the fuck cares, are you really that perverted that you just can't handle Sally's character design?
@@evdestroy4121 because it looks very humanoid and awkward and embarrassing and it’s very important for the girls to have clothes because that’s how the rules are in this franchise so character like this is illegal and should not exist
@@iceman92211 Those rules weren't a thing when Sally was created lmao, she predates every other female Sonic character. If anything, by your logic it should be the other way around since Sally set the original standard. Also, if you think it's embarrassing, I'm sorry but consider going outside.
@@evdestroy4121 well, it’s official you’re American
First, that rule actually was always a thing from the very beginning it’s the Americans, who made it look like it wasn’t a thing by creating this character
Second, what do you mean that she sent the original standard ? are you seriously believing everything from your own country ? Because you seem to forget that the Sonic franchise as a whole was created in Japan
Third I think the more question is, how do you think she looks OK like this ?
I had these comics too, but as separate volumes
The prologue wasn’t in any of them, it started with Sonic in green hill going “where am I?”, and I had no clue what he was talking about.
So when I got to issue 3, I had no clue why out of nowhere, Sonic got tall and knew he had to save Sally.
Then I read Sonic genesis, and I was like “hey, issue 3! Wait, why is the opening longer? Hey, why doesn’t Sonic go to save…”
Then Sally died.
I was SO confused.
Instantly captivating, emotional, action-packed with the heart as a precedent to make it mean something..
But it's all on the friendships, and even relationships that hinge on the free spirit of Sonic that make it work.
We will never get any of it again...
To be honest the whole Eggman screwing up Sonic’s attempt to destroy the Super Genesis Wave and causing his parents to be PERMANENTLY erased would have been a justifiable reason for Sonic to just straight up kill him. I mean all of the people he lost and have met in the pre reboot universe are gone including his kids from both Light and Dark Mobius
It's because of a legal issue, for God's sake!!!
@@chadkennedy7855 Obviously but still. Why on Earth did you think i wouldn’t know that. Literally EVERYONE knows that at this point
11:05 I would like to shill Archie Sonic Online which did its own conclusion to the Mecha Sally Arc.
It's a tie between the Metal Virus saga and Sonic 06 for me. The scale, the epicness, the cast, the villains, the everything really, I adore these 2 stories
Why Sonic 06 of all the games ? No wonder you like those inappropriate comics
@@iceman92211 Clown comment, ignored for the rest of time c ya champ 🖖
@@KOTSOSMC2002 actually you did reply to me so you didn’t ignore me
@@iceman92211idw sonic isnt inappropriate
@@ddlcfan2763 I’m actually referring to the other comics.
This comic is after Ken Penders left, a fairly large reason for the genesis wave was to get rid of his characters. So none of his art, the really skinny and kinda weird looking art, or any of his plot lines made it in.
This actually convinced me to read the Archie comics
Don’t ever touch those comics because you will see inappropriate girls with no clothes on
@@iceman92211 Shut up
One word for this whole development. SADFACE.
But in all seriousness, I had a lot of love for the Archie series, even through all the insanity it endured. It was around for the longest time and admittedly I grew out of the series before this exact point given how out of control it had gotten. I wish I could go back and remain conscious of the series but I guess I don't entirely regret it. The latest iteration is still a blast from what I've read.
Hey Mark, did you see the fan comic that continues past where the reboot would’ve happened? I think you’ll REALLY like what they did with the Mecha Sally plot!
The best sonic story that I can think of in recent memory is IDW's metal virus Arc. It was amazing and well done i heavily recommend it to sonic fans if they havent read it. Theres even a full dub of the comics on RUclips
We can all agree that at the end of the day, the moment when sonic said baldy mc nose hair in colours was peak storytelling
God I miss the pre-boot Archie Sonic comics.
So you miss the time when the franchise had girls with no clothes ?
@@iceman92211 Why do you assume that, of all things, that's what my interest is about, considering that just as many girls did wear clothes and just as many guys did too.
@@iceman92211 do u think scream will finally be in dead by daylight?
@@andyz6306except that’s the sonic franchise you’re talking about which is the franchise that has all the girls wear clothes with no exception so that’s why characters like those don’t work
@@iceman92211 You're really dense if you think that I care even at all about clothing versus non-clothing.
I remember owning one of the volumes from the King Sonic series as a kid, it was great
special shoutout to Dr. Finitevus.
i miss him...
This was my first sonic comic too, super relatable
Sonic Eraser's story was so sad it made me never cry at another game again, for they just couldn't compare
Wow this was a great and emotional comic from archie Sonic
This is why I love Sally and the freedom fighters
They're such great well written characters and I love them so much
Please Sega
bring back the freedom fighters
Stop treating them like they're nothing
Sally and well written are something should not be next to each other due to the lack of clothing
This one was WAY up there but Enerjak reborn SLIGHTLY edeges it out as my fav Archie story
You should read Archie Sonic Online fancomic if you want to see a conclusion to the Mecha Sally storyline, the art is pretty accurate to the official comics
link?
@@ianfredf6005just google sonic archie online
I hope this comic story can have an impact on the Sonic videogames story.Yeah I know that Sonic Frontiers have that story and I wish Forces have that story except Tails scare of Chaos 0. But unfortunately we can't have that dream due Archie cut ties with Sega and Ken Panders does Ken Panders things. I wish for other future Sonic games to have ties to the comic book series.
We don’t want stories that have girls with no clothes like this
Sometimes i genuinely miss the Archie era of sonic comics.
Why do you miss the era that has girls with no clothes on ?
@@iceman92211 do u think the last of us will be added in dead by daylight?
@iceman92211 why do you keep bringing this up? No one cares.
@@mumbojello because it’s destroying the consistency of the girls in the franchise and also there are people who do care but they’re just too scared to say it but not me
@@mumbojelloit’s because he’s just too afraid to admit that he’s horny about Sally acorn, he feels ashamed so he’s trying to make sure everyone definitely knows he hates how she isn’t covered up. He DEFINITELY doesn’t like it, that’s why he keeps bringing it up obsessively in comments that don’t even mention it. Definitely don’t think that because he keeps talking about how he hates it actually means he secretly likes it.
All jokes aside, this guy is just projecting his own horniness. Nobody else is bringing it up, yet if you look, he’s in many replies constantly talking about this. I’m sure he’d realize that he’s just exposing himself as a closet pervert if he just wacked one off and went about his day.
He’s probably some poor religious kid who was taught to be afraid of anything resembling a female curve.
Now Splash Dash this was an incredible video but when is the Wes Weasley video coming out
sonic pinball party has the best story in the entire sonic franchise
Cringe and unfunny
I LOVE IT WHEN THE RESET THE ENTIRE TIMELINE FOR CLASSIC SONIC SLOP
Man i have had this book for like 5 or so years already and since i didnt have any other knowledge on the archie comics i just never found out what happened next. until now that i know it basically just ends without a conclusion lmao what
I really wanted only Sally to appear in the games and be a well-crafted character, not the mess she was in Archie... Except in her last comics. I really hope she appears in the games canonically. Without being Sonic's girlfriend, we all know that Sonic belongs to Amy lol I want her to be the group's best friend.
Why do you want a girl with no clothes to appear in the games ?
Sonic and Sally burst with chemistry and character development. Sonic and Sally is more fun.
@@TheEzekiel300 how is a girl with no clothes is fun to you ?
Just so you know there actually is a fan continuation of the original Archie Sonic comic that picks up right where the original series left off. It's called Sonic the Hedgehog Online, and you should really check it out if you wanna see what happens to mecha Sally and stuff. It's a really good continuation if you ask me.
Nah those comics should stay in the past due to how inappropriate they’re.
@@iceman92211 Shut up
My personal favorite story is Hedgehog Havoc because of how utterly insane everything gets.
7:03 ooooooh god, you just started a war
Never seen your channel before, but I like your positive vibes. You've earned a new subscriber! 😉
The sonic X metarex arc was a step up from the previous seasons that’s for sure
Genesis' ending is really good, but the arc itself is kinda mid, honestly. We're right in the middle of an invasion and the return of the Death Egg, and retelling Sonic 1 and 2 is what we want to be doing? If I'm being real, this feels like the first time SEGA stepped in and said "Sonic 4 is coming out, do this", I doubt anyone in the creative team actively wanted to revisit the games with the least story in the whole franchise.
My personal favourite issue is 175, where Eggman comes along, kills everyone, and then kicks Sonic's ass. There's even a moment where you think Sonic is going past his limit and turning the tide, only for Eggman's armor to still be just fine. And then Sonic just has to sit there, among the wreckage, and realise he's failed. It's powerful stuff.
Overall, I'd still say IDW is better. It's what I want when I think "Sonic comic", Sonic characters going on Sonic adventures. The OCs take less space and fit much better into the world. Dr Starline (a character based on a glitch from Knuckles' Chaotix) taking over the Eggman empire using the Sonic Heroes cores just feels more natural than Eggman's A.I. son infusing Tommy Turtle with nanites to make him stronger than Ultimate Life Form to accomplish the same thing.
That being said, Archie has a special place in my heart for allowing the staff to do things they could never do nowdays. Like make the characters cry. Can't do that anymore. Sonic is dehydrated.
HOLY SHIT I REMEMBER THIS ONE-
(ion rmb him waking up in green hill tho)
What do you remember ?
@@iceman92211 iirc
I rmb them entering the ship, going against silver, sally dying
& after the world was painted white, the next few pages were a bunch of ads for issues, + a bit about eggman winning by painting the world white
the next issue (which was genesis iirc lol)
it was literally the prior issue lmao
Idw needs to hire this artist
An artist that draws female characters without clothes ? How about no.
@@iceman92211He was just drawing character with already existing design, what should he do? Redesign the character only for his issues?
@@trainerred6990 yes because otherwise he’s just wasting his talent on something very inappropriate when he could’ve done it on something much better than this.
I see Mecha Sally on the thumbnail
Now you have my attention
Imma be real the story of the Sonic + Garfield 2 pack had me sobbing.
I remember this story almost solely because I remember a friend crying to ME because I was the only person that would GET why Sally's essential death was so heartbreaking to her. She put that trust into me.
Middle school me replied with "Oh thank god, finally"
“I know it’s Mecha Sonic, but they call it Silver Sonic, just deal with it.”
I’ve always known him as Silver Sonic, so its not my problem. Honestly Silver Sonic is the better name as Mecha Sonic’s already the name of the robot used from Sanic 3 & Knipples.
But there’s a character called Silver so that name will create confusion.
@@iceman92211 I don’t see how Silver Sonic’s name would cause confusion as everyone calls Silver Silver, or Silver the Hedgehog. If anything, the word Mecha Sonic creates more confusion as Mecha Sonic was the name of the robot from Sonic & Knuckles.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudiosMecha Sonic sounds like a different thing than the words Silver and Sonic.
@@iceman92211But it was still already used by a different Sonic Robot.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudios Metal Sonic ?
remind me why the best sonic issues have sonic in a deep blue funk
Man Archie Sonic was great compared to what we have now with IDW. Idk IDW just feels so empty and doesn’t have the world building or characterization that Archie had. I loved Sonic and Sally’s chemistry and you just..l don’t get anything like it in IDW
Empty comics are still better than girls with no clothes
Sonic & Depression I swear
Now if sonic games got at least a crumb of this storytelling, that would be something
Nah we don’t want females with no clothes in the games like this awkward and inappropriate story
I feel like there's a male valley girl thing going on. The end of each sentence stretches the last few letters. Fun either way
2:09 you can just connect a controller to your phone with Bluetooth… I do it all the time.
Sonic 06 hands down, no debate!!!!!!!
bruh no it’s obviously Sonic X for the Leapster released in 2007
Unironically
That’s the story that ruined the characters especially Blaze so don’t ever call it good
@@iceman92211 Tough. I like it, so I'll call it good. It didn't ruin anybody's character, just Blaze's backstory
@@HazeX2it did ruin the characters and made them stupid and for it’s not just her backstory they also made her a boring character and she didn’t even interact with any character
Black Knight and Adventure 2, Next Question
Good choices
Sonic over here getting that Spider-Man treatment.
One more day
Sonic edition
8:50 The fact they kept the pitch black eyes, an oversight because of a misinterpreted sprite all these years later is incredible
I've never actually read the Archie comics. I've only....okay mostly....okay more than half the time have heard good things about it and it's characters, this being one of them. This comic freaking rules with how it tells it's story especially with that awesome ending. I'll probably never read through Archie (that's probably One Piece levels of story beats I'll have to go through to actually understand everything) and I have become very attached to what IDW does even with the flaws I think it has but I will always appreciate this piece of Sonic history for being so daring and drastic all the way up until they had to cut it off and start anew.
I don’t see how you think this comic rules when it has a girl with no clothes
Sonic Adveture 2 story may want a word with you Timmy Turner guy
Great story but a sword game is a little better
@@iceman92211 I never played Black Knight I don’t know the story of that game
@@Themasktrooper umm you don’t need to play the game to know the story you could just watch it on RUclips and then review it
I'm still mad about the fact that the original timeline just ends with a with a white flash
I already have a backbone, sorry Splash Dash!
after I found sonic archie comics back in 2019 I was never the same🥲😭
As inconsistent as the Archie Sonic was, I can't bring myself to hate them, they have some fucking awesome moments and over 20 years of lore.
I’m honestly surprised how you can’t hate them when they have girls with no clothes in them
@@iceman92211 Hey, it is what it is 🤷♂️
@@iceman92211 do u think dead by daylight will collab with one piece and release cosmetics?
@@ALegendaryBlueHedgewell you can change your mind easily
This story needs an ending one day