Projector Screen Color Comparison | Carl's Place DIY Home Theater Projector Screens
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- In this video, I go over the three "Flexi" materials that Carl's Place has to offer for DIY projector screens. The FlexiWhite, FlexiGray, and Ambient Light Rejecting (ALR) screen materials are tested in different lighting conditions and angles to help you decide which color is right for you home theater.
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simple and amazingly detailed, this is the video what people exactly wanted, i wasted so much time on other videos
Glad it helped!
I’m only 100 seconds in and this video is already exactly what I was looking for, that’s so incredible they sent you that specific screen for comparison sake!
They were awesome to work with. Great people over there. Hope the video helped man!
oh my god didnt expect to see you here ! :D
Don't know how I missed this video all these years, one of the best screen comparisons ever.
Thank you so much! I had always wondered why projectors come with white screens when they only have the ability to brighten what they display on. I wanted to go with black or a shade of grey, so I really appreciate you testing out different colours to see the benefits of each, at least in your room. Perhaps a perfectly colour netrual grey that matches the brightness of the middle will be the sweet spot.
Thank you very much from Germany!
This video is so valuable! The first time the screen types, lighting conditions and resulting quality were presented in a understandable way.
Fantastic, first class, intelligent, valuable, useful!
I live in the UK and have found it so very difficult to find a company that produces and sells ALR screen material. The closest company I could find was in Germany to which I ALMOST made an order. I am very glad I didn't as I came across your excellent video with a link to Carl's Place where I found the same material measurements for HALF the price of the German company. Including International shipping to the UK and the added 20% tax that UK customs will apply to the order, I am still making a saving of £70! ($86).
In short I am saying thank you!
Awesome! Glad it helped you out Michael, thats the main goal when making these types of videos. Enjoy your setup! And the extra cash lol!
Hey Michael any updates on how you got on with the screen? I'm from Ireland and am also finding pretty hard to get a good screen. I just purchased the Elitescreen 5d from Amazon.de but am having buyers tension already and I haven't got the screen yet. I can always sent it back so I'm not too worried. PJ is a Epson 9400 good ambient light control but ceilings are white as well as other surfaces. Thanks
Simple test and very detailed. For me the purpose of watching movies using a projector is to have a cinema experience. If you want light in your room; buy a TV. The white screen looks perfect for me! Thanks!
I don't see how the white screen looks "perfect" to you in a pitch black room.
The contrast looks terrible on it. Black looks Gray. 👎👎👎
Hands down best video on YT about projector screen color comarison. I think it's best to compare 0% and Outside light conditions because in your room the lights are on the ceiling and near the screen so even at 10% we can see that blacks start to pale and get colorised due to light color temperature mix - different Kelvins from the projector and different Kelvins from the light sources.
Thank you for this it's an insane amount of work, i currently have a white wall without imperfections and I wanted an alr screen but now that i saw your test it just looked like my plasma tv and it's not the kind of image i want for my projector. Thank you you made me save a lot of money :)
Wow, what a fantastic professional review, very informative and educational, I too prefer the gray. Thank you.
Thank you so much for the high quality of Effort, professionalism and breakdown of all the info of the 3 screens. I very much appreciated the side by side comparison, the types of Colors used (i.e. white matt), the method of FL & how its used, what the gain was for eqch of the 3 colors, etc...
I personally liked the middle one out of comparing them all together and the middle color also had the best color and light of average score of the 3
A very well done comparison. I'm the type to prefer some ambient light to keep the strain on my eyes down, so I'd probably want the middle or left one.
Or I can sell a few limbs and buy a cool laser projector that might work better in lighted situations.
No joke... Like $20k worth, but man I bet they are nice!
Thank you for making this! I have been wrangling over getting a screen but didn't know what material was best for my space.
Awesome. Really helps show the difference in shades of gray!
Thanks for the video . It made me go with the 1 gain grey all day
Thanks bro this is amazing,
Been sleeping so late trying to find the best screen & boom, here I come across your amazing video at 12:20am this crazy thanks to you now I will be sleeping early...
This was really helpful & awesomeness..
Big up...
Glad it helped man! Now get some sleep... 😁
Very nice demonstration, no fluff! I wish I had come across this demo before I wasted my time and money on ALR screen samples. I got Flexi White several years ago, now I tried some ALR screen samples but they are too dark for my projector in ambient light. I am sticking to the Flexi White until the real, directional ALR screens + UST projects become more affordable.
I was itching for some magical ALR screen because I was deceived by carefully presented image by some reviewers, it turns out there is no magic (at least not in sub-$1000 prices). All of the ALR samples I tried were darker gray, and were too dark for my projector's low-ish brightness (Benq 3550 @2000 lumens max, which is in a coloar-inaccurate mode, real brightness is less than half of it).
I tried XY's Black Diamond, BD High Gain, PET Crystal, and SAMS's Screen Pro ALR and their High Gain version. I also tried the Carl's ALR but it was too dark, I would lose all detail in dark scenes when the lights were on. With FlexiWhite at least I can see something, albeit everything is very yellow.
Fantastic video . This really helps me out . I chose the Matte grey . 👌 Thank you for the hard work you put in!
Glad it helped!
Jimmy Harrelson - I’m open to that! I haven’t bought anything yet. This weekend though I’m ready to buy.
Black are so much deeper on the grey screen! Definitely getting a higher gain screen now 🙏
Thank you for sharing your results with us, much appreciated! Currently in the process of building out a dedicated home theater room. A few year's ago I did a DIY screen build using Carl's flexigray and it turned out an absolute killer with crazy black levels on Epson 6040UB (mind you, I have vaulted ceiling that is painted white and the screen can easily handle light reflections from the ceiling). With the new room going to be painted dark navy blue (incl. ceiling), dark carpeted floor and no windows - I'm inbetween using gray or white for my new screen. Latter would definitely help with HDR content but I feel like even the smallest ambient light in that room would ruin the picture for me. Guess I should order both and if I don't like the white, I could possibly sell the screen.
Glad you like it! That'll be an awesome room as far as light control. Do you feel you'll ever watch with any lights on? I had to ask myself that with my current setup. We really do black out the room most of the time, but the few times we watch during the day or with friends over and bar lights on led me to the gray. Plus the Panasonic projector will have better black levels with it. But like you said, the materials are really cheap enough that you could order both and see which suits you best! Good luck man
1. Dark blue walls will mess with your on-screen colors. And with your eyes. Get matte black or extremely dark gray only, When you are not projecting and have room lights on, have some color RGBY LED wall wash lights throw to the walls and screen area. 2. For screen, get pitch black or extremely dark gray. I have a test screen that is 4.8 meters wide in the 1.90:1 Aspect Ratio,, pitch black, it measures at an app. a 0.8 gain. Not exactly OLED blacks, but pretty close.
Very enlightening! The white screen looks best, but only as long as it's completely dark. I wonder how that works in your room with the white ceiling...
Also, I really would have loved to see a Movie with letterbox bars...they are always a challenge...
My ceiling is the same color as the screen wall, Software from SW in their flattest sheen. You'd definitely see more reflections with a white ceiling. And yea I guess I didn't do any scenes with black bars...
I went silver to grey then back to white for my room. The white was best for me in my dedicated HT room with really good light control (flat darker walls). Which let me dial back my projector brightness a bit and not over saturate the image.
Great comparison!!!
Which white screen did you use? silver ticket? or a pricier one?
yeah i got a silver ticket gray and am switching to white, I tried to be cool and different with the gray but its just too dark lol
Excellent You did a Great Comparison
я бы сказал что это лучший обзор! the best review, thanks from USSR ))
Simply a great video. Thankfully I dont have to go to a dedicated store to see the difference myself now, as this looks like a pretty accurate representation. Thank you very much!
Thank you, thank you! You have been my inspiration to go bold and be brave and paint a gray accent wall for my projector and shadows
It's definitely worth doing!
one of the best videos i've ever seen on this subject. my choice would also be the grey.. thanks 👍
Appreciate it man. This was an extremely time consuming video, glad it has been helpful!
Good man. Thanks for the video. The light grey seems to add a little warmth and contrast without losing too much on the color.
Thays what I went with myself
Awesome video!!! Looking forward to the follow up on how to build the screen!
great video !!! it seems like the Flexi gray gave deeper blacks without losing to much brightness
going to make that my next screen
It really did look good. I'm going to up the brightness a bit on my projector to help with that, but should look great once the full screen is installed
It will lose more white than it gains in black level. I got a grey screen and I really regret the purchase.
@@ChrisKadaver how many lumens is your projector?
@@luisnavarrete1602 2200
@@ChrisKadaver Do you have a perfectly dark room or do you have ambient lights? So in your opinion you would opt to use a white screen despite having ambient lights?
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much for your outstanding comparison.
Love that ambient light rejecting one
I had planned on the ALR screen but due to the location in my condo there is limited seating with 40 degree of center and have more angle seating in the 50 to 80 degree range. This was very helpful will be ordering the FlexiGrey :) ty
got me at ambient light rejecting, dolby atmos boosting. Automatic smashed-like button
😂🤘
Was deciding between grey and white, this vid was everything I needed. Thanks!
Which did you eventually get?
@@andrehall6432 I think white is great when in a complete dark room, but where there is a bit of ambient light, grey is great
Great info and love the Victory signs in the backgrounds.
I bought the ALR screen for my theater room from Carl’s. Even tho my room is 100% light controlled, I love the colors and contrast on that screen.
Yea I know... it was a hard choice between that and the gray color.
Alr blacks look fantastic. I'm so used to my oled I'd have to go with that one.
I live in Brazil, I will use the fabric Salange HX 820, ordered from Banggod, in the size of 100``, to watch without loss of quality also during the day.
Best comparison video I've ever seen. Great job!
You have forgotten the total BLACK screen! It gives the best results indor and outdoor. Viewing angles are 170°. Contrasts can easily be adjusted.
I have a 8000 lumens ,360" projector. 12 bit colors. 1080p. 4k-64k videos are stunning even an a dirty white wall. I expect improvents...25% on white, 50% on grey and 100% on black screen. Will build my own Black foldable, portable screen.
Please mention BEST PAINT for black screen.
A Superb educational video with superb addicting background music. Fantastic work !!! Thanks. I am building exactly the same 100 inch screen with the FlexiGray for my new Polaris 4K UST.
I just ate dinner to this video it was so well done!!! Congratulations, you just earned a sub to my coveted 'at home' RUclips account!
I am honored to be part of such an elite group... 😁👍
Thank you you helped me to pick between grey and white
Awesome video! I appreciate your efforts. Really liked how many different samples you had for comparison.
I use a block-out dark grey roller blind and everyone is amazed...pretty dark room
Awesome video, bro. Pure value. Straight to the point, no BS. Tks a lot!
We have Grey on our walls and I was curious. Thanks for the info!
I love 3D, so using any screen that takes away even more brightness is a no- go.
Excelent video, thank you for your work.
Awesome, thanks for the great comparison video. You saved my a lot of hassle.
This is a well done video, but it has me confused a bit. You say the ALR screen with 1.5 gain is the second brightest of the three screens. However, it looks dimmest in all of your examples. The lower gain Flexi Gray looks considerably brighter to me. I have an Elite Cinegray 5D screen which was supposed to be 1.5 gain(it's really .8) and am looking for something brighter.
Excellent work thank you so much.
Awesome video. It should have 100,000 views.
Thanks Ernie. I agree 😉
@@LifeofBliss
Well it is past 105k, woohoo! It's a very nice demonstration!
Helpful bro thanks
Interesting, the ALR screen appears to actually "crush" the blacks, giving a bit less dynamic range to the shadows. I think I'd rather take more detail but slightly washed out like in even the white screen.
ALR screen surfaces are for the birds, really. As are 0.25:1 Throw Ratio UST projectors.
Best review to date. Thanks for this 😊
I too think the grey does more justice and is best compromise of vividity and brightness
Awesome video. I'm about to buy a projector and screen and I looked at the Carl's fabric. This video really helped me.
Glad it helped Chris!
Im in the same place, agree totally. Really great video.
Great video!!!
Thank you you’re the best 👌🏻 really appreciate your efforts 🤍🤍🤍
This is very helpful! Also I love the movie choice!
White all the way for dark room use for sure.
Is it just me or does the ALR look better every single time? Even in 0% light which white is supposedly better for. Maybe I just prefer a darker image?
It does look much deeper in colors but some details are lost in dark scenes so keep that in mind
amazing job kyle 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Gray looks the best! I have a direct window pointing at the where the screen would go in my theater. Also I have seating outside of the reccomend angle for an alr screen. So flexi gray would be a good balance between flexi white and an alr screen.
I think in a complete dark room, white carries the day
Awesome video great job! I have been using Carl's white rear projection screen on a 100" 21:9 frame I built for 3 years now and it's just as good as the day I put it together with no maintenance at all. We have used it outside a couple of times as well very enjoyable experience. I think this is my first time to comment on one of your videos, but have watched many... You're doing a great job! PS: Carl's was great to work with!
Appreciate it! I'm excited to get the Flexigray in to make the full size screen to see how it looks. I was very impressed with the materials and how easy it was to stretch it out on the frame. He's been great to with as well! Have a good one man!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FROM INDIA 🇮🇳
I know what screen I am getting and where too thanks to you, thank you 🙏🏾
Glad the video helped man 👍
sir what was your projector Lumens of Brightness ?
nice informative video..
Thanks. Kinda low, probly 450 ansi lumens. Bright enough, but I need to upgrade soon. This is an older model PJ
If your theater is 100% light controlled, with dark walls / ceiling / carpet, Base 1 White, in flat or matte finish is always the best choice.
Excellent review. Thank you.
depend what lummens light have the projector, the grey dark screen is for projector up from 4000 lumens,
and the white projector screen is for projectors down than 2000 lumens, cheers,
Well i just bought a very budget friendly projector (Groview jc818c) and here i am looking for a screen to match..
Seems like something like the middle one is the way to go since my room is quite dark.
Not sure if its a good idea with a budget projector like this
You shouldn't do side by side comparisons to judge projector screen materials. They don't tell you what you think they did. A brighter image will make the lower gain material look far darker than it would if viewed on it's own. It's like how a room looks dark when you come inside on a sunny day, even if the lights are on. Similarly, the darker material will make the others look more washed out than they normally would. The white material looked washed out even in total darkness in your video as a result.
You also need to calibrate the projector differently for each screen material and choose the right projector for the screen and room. That Panasonic is far too dim to be a good choice for darker ALR screens. A brighter projector would significantly increase the usable viewing angle in a semi-lit room.
0:14 That's a mouthful!
LOL
Awesome video, thank you for the work you put into. Now asking your opinion... Carl's Palace screen material is used in many DIY screen projects that include even painting on them. But what if the FlexiGray is the right tone but want to add a bit extra gain by spraying on it a very delicate satin coating? mixed in water of course, just enough to give an extra push to the gain avoiding hotspotting of course. What do you think? Would that work?
I mean... You could try it and see the results. I honestly don't know how it would affect the picture, that'd be something to experiment with though. I'm willing to bet Carl would have some excess scrap material that is a decent size he could ship to you pretty cheap. Like a 2ft x 2ft piece? That would give you a big enough size to get a feel for what it's doing to the image. Or you could even do 3 or 4 different test panels out of it and see which you like best. Sorry, just don't know without actually trying it!
Thanks for all the hard work!
Your work is amazing: thanks a lot your video is key for my choice
Yup i would choose the far right. Just cause i calibrate my own tv’s and projectors with a xrite ionedisplaycoloemeter pro and hfcr software to rec709. So i would have a dark room. If you go projector you should have a dark room anyways. Most calibrators want between 30 to 40 ftL of brightness for projectors is a nice brightness. Def gonna looking carls screens. Thanks man. Take care.
Yea definitely ideal to have a dark room for a projector. I'm hoping I can improve the image with a little calibration myself once I get the gray screen going, but will probably still have a professional calibration done. I think this screen will look good once I upgrade to a brighter projector a well. Carl's screens are pretty good stuff, easy to work with as you'll see in the next video on them. Have a good one man
Life of Bliss bro! You can totally calibrate your self with a little learning and the xrite ionedisplay pro. The software hfcr open source! It took me a while but it saves so much money of a pro calibrator. I read so much! The ionedisplay pro is used by so many. I can email you or send u some links if you contact info on here to get in better touch! Id make a video but im not a youtube make video kinda guy. Lol. Just like watching.
@@rcdude86 I just might look into doing that... yea man send me the links to lifeofblisskb@gmail.com. Thanks!
What would be good for a Sony 270es in a dark room? I`m projecting on a wall right now, the dark scenes look great, almost Oled like. But brighter scenes get a bit washed out.
Either the flexigray or white. I wouldn't do alr for that area
Hey can i ask which did you get?
How many lumens is a “brighter projector” ? As needed for the grey
Super video! I applauded for $2.00 👏
I think you're the first to do one of those. Appreciate it Douglas! 🍻
I love your tricolor screen, I hope Carl gave it to you for nothing. These 3 shades on your test screen were okay a while back, now all the rage is TOTALL PITCH BLACK or EXTREMELY DARK GRAY. With those, you will have amazing CR and deep blacks. You cannot project black to a white or light gray surface obviously.
Thanks..exactly what i was searching..👍
Great video! I'm still torn between color or size or actual screen or painting the wall on a smooth surface...lol too many decisions.
Great video. Well done sir.
Thank you sir
Dear. Wich color you recmend for better result ... Pl name the color . Thax
Thank you for your great demonstration, it was very helpful. I look forward to seeing how you build your screen.
Glad it helped! Here's the screen build video ruclips.net/video/Ao18_Ciq3z4/видео.html
Which one is good
Pro Tip: add special "non reflective" Particles in your Paint to "catch" the light from Projector and you get real contrasts
Interesting video. Ive always wonder if the grey screens vs white throw off color accuracy, i have i1 pro to spectrometer and always wanted to test the color accuracy for rec709 and 2020 color spaces but i have got a projector and the screens yet. Ive seen no one else do it yet on youtube but its expensive for the equipment wonder if you knew any color calibrators and have them test it. .
One from left..good for days ..and the middle good for nite....from my 5 years watching projector experience.
I have a good diy frame build in my HT group and also allows for LED back lights.
I'll be adding LED's to mine as well. Won't be on when doing some serious movie watching, but they are pretty cool to have at times!
This is really helpful. Thanks.
great comparison. thanks
Let’s test the black levels, cue Kevin heart.😂😂😂😂. It’s amazing the difference the ambient light makes to the image.
😂🤣 I was trying to show a few different skin tones to give a well rounded test. That dude is hilarious...
Hi which screen is best for ultra short projector?
Great comparison thanks.
So which one is best?