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  • Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
  • Drakos and Dagda review Week 2 of the LEC, discuss why Europe is struggling with mid to late game and give a shout out to the unsung heroes of the LEC.
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    Skip around to your favorite parts:
    Opening
    0:00 Highlights
    0:25 Intro
    0:55 Welcome
    Discussion
    1:47 Week 2 Review
    3:01 Competitive domestic games
    4:32 Smolder
    6:07 FNC vs. G2
    10:40 Teams trying different styles
    13:54 How fast can teams evolve?
    16:37 BDS
    19:44 Scrims and practicing mid to late game
    22:46 Mid game issues in Europe
    24:51 RGE
    27:01 SK
    27:47 Thoughts from Swiffer
    31:32 KC vs. SK
    33:59 MDK
    38:14 Who are the best teams in the league?
    39:28 VIT
    40:38 Senna & Nautilus
    44:05 Mac
    46:02 TH
    48:26 Ashe & Varus
    50:37 Playing more around jungle
    Community Check-In: Unsung Heroes
    55:10 Unsung Heroes
    55:31 Swiffer & Coaches
    57:24 Daglas
    1:03:13 Patrick
    1:05:36 Jun
    Closing
    1:13:48 Final week before Playoffs
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Комментарии • 75

  • @ronzeffir5139
    @ronzeffir5139 2 месяца назад +76

    "in the heat of the moment boom! I can outplay this guy! I can't" IS SUCH A MOOD DRAKOS ILY

  • @Van1sh
    @Van1sh 2 месяца назад +47

    38:00 "Who are the best teams in the League at the end of Winter"
    Drakos: "KC, FNC and G2"
    Find the imposter.

    • @MariusNinjai
      @MariusNinjai 2 месяца назад

      All the opinions just lost alot of value after that 😂

  • @G2LoL
    @G2LoL 2 месяца назад +189

    Friday night games enjoyers rise up

    • @WickedSL
      @WickedSL 2 месяца назад +1

      enjoy that gx rge :)

    • @dane7416
      @dane7416 2 месяца назад

      Its Thursday tho

    • @blarg539
      @blarg539 2 месяца назад

      Yike and BB aren’t good enough.

    • @edgaraires7103
      @edgaraires7103 2 месяца назад

      G2 are just cocky guys.

    • @yiannisharalambidis4418
      @yiannisharalambidis4418 2 месяца назад

      @@WickedSL there is a reason why it's scheduled first

  • @gabrielhermansson6772
    @gabrielhermansson6772 2 месяца назад +41

    Would it be possible to get coaches to join in for an episode? Would be great i think.

    • @darkienl5886
      @darkienl5886 2 месяца назад +1

      They had an episode with swiffr last year and it was great, so it's deffo possible

    • @danielshamlian2800
      @danielshamlian2800 2 месяца назад

      I feel you -- as of right now though, they're probably the busiest people. I'd love to see a panel of the better ones getting to let a bit of steam off honestly.

  • @yesssirr987
    @yesssirr987 2 месяца назад +4

    The desk looks like a giant guitar pick and I cant unsee it

  • @rawruwu7862
    @rawruwu7862 2 месяца назад +10

    Let's goooooo. It's our LEC dads!

  • @francescobiancucci3165
    @francescobiancucci3165 2 месяца назад +21

    i think u were recording this while t1 was actually struggling to win against an 'fing smolder

  • @Rocks374
    @Rocks374 2 месяца назад +9

    JUAN!!!!

  • @alexursu563
    @alexursu563 2 месяца назад +8

    1:10:04 But that's what Jun did when he played Rell tho vs TH. It just gets brushed off because FNC lost that game

  • @Kam-go3bc
    @Kam-go3bc 2 месяца назад +1

    what brand are those glasses, i really like em

  • @jorsinz5570
    @jorsinz5570 2 месяца назад +6

    NS vs T1 is a perfect example of how bad a champ smolder is. Shutdown and zoned off from 3 waves at level 3 but still ends up climbing back without issue. That champ needs major retuning before it should be allowed again. Just put it into the ground

    • @ragaw3212
      @ragaw3212 2 месяца назад

      But still died to one varus arrow

    • @DanielPerez-xo1tj
      @DanielPerez-xo1tj 2 месяца назад +2

      @@ragaw3212at least Varus is a skill shot lol

    • @eidamgouda0609
      @eidamgouda0609 2 месяца назад

      I mean infernal soul whole 6 items and elder + baron + potion@@ragaw3212

  • @bukelos2804
    @bukelos2804 2 месяца назад +6

    Hehe i like how u put first the saltiest comment for the Jun segment, which was mine :D
    Interesting points u had and i agree with them. I would also add to that, that Jun being good, not awesome, not "sticking out" like the Razork/Huma duo, doing his job properly in all aspects of the game and being consistent in it, is also why Fnc's mid/jgl duo is able to shine like that, because noone needs to quench any fires in the botlane, there are no big distractions and our bois are given more stability therefore more free room to do their own things and that is imo the reason why Jun should have been talked about more.
    Nevertheless this was a good podcast episode and i think we can also all agree with that Sk vs Kc segment :D Cheers!

  • @chansey161
    @chansey161 Месяц назад

    watching the end of this after RGE beat G2 on saturday feels insane

  • @arturoflash
    @arturoflash 2 месяца назад +3

    As long as teams don't take scrims seriously the LEC is going to be the graveyard for midgames. A petition of all the teams to take scrims seriously might not fix everything but it's a step. A simple step that teams can't even commit too

  • @chadbrochill19
    @chadbrochill19 2 месяца назад +3

    Someone needs to do a filthy frank compilation of the broken new riot champions with Smoulder + Zeri etc. 'THIS NEEDS TO STOP" IT'S TIME TO STOP THIS IS NOT OKAY

  • @Sp4rkx-
    @Sp4rkx- 2 месяца назад +6

    I think you understate the amount of impact nisqy has on the losses. Nisqy is the biggest factor in their wins but he also throws every of his leads away within 5-10 minutes

  • @fareschaaya3742
    @fareschaaya3742 2 месяца назад

  • @blarg539
    @blarg539 2 месяца назад +2

    Wunder and Jankos back to G2.

  • @albertheinrich5985
    @albertheinrich5985 2 месяца назад

    didnt you guys have a swear jar this season? xd

  • @kaisamyboys5233
    @kaisamyboys5233 2 месяца назад +2

    JJJUNNN GOAT

  • @HenryTheF0X
    @HenryTheF0X 2 месяца назад

    TLDR: ROB!

  • @vidhenpatel8174
    @vidhenpatel8174 2 месяца назад +7

    I want Fnatic and G2 to MSI. That's why i really hope MDK doesn't even make it to playoffs😅

    • @KillJoy34
      @KillJoy34 2 месяца назад +1

      mdk will not win playoffs whatsoever, only TH are contenders to fnatic if we talk about going to MSI

    • @ferst262
      @ferst262 2 месяца назад +2

      @@KillJoy34they won the split last year from this exact position tho

    • @vidhenpatel8174
      @vidhenpatel8174 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ferst262 but would say it's not the same team and now every other team knows their strategy and it was more of luck on their side than so much skills

    • @ferst262
      @ferst262 2 месяца назад +1

      @@vidhenpatel8174 no, there is no luck in league. They had less preparation for this split, they started late, and meta doesn’t favor them. Quite literally the same thing that happened last spring, and we all know how that went…

    • @dennoplit3728
      @dennoplit3728 2 месяца назад

      unfortunately if fnatic dont win the split their only chance to go to msi is completely on mdk hands and we know how much of an umpredictable team mdk is@@KillJoy34

  • @karanshade488
    @karanshade488 2 месяца назад +5

    Isn't it a good news for G2 at the end of the day that Fnatic is able to contest on side lane macro ? at least the get the challenge they need to progress. If they need to 'lose' a split to get better at worlds , I'm all for it. Btw MSI can not be good , it's a catchup session on asian gameplay for them to prepare for world. I don't think it is reasonable to have expectation for MSI.

    • @kaisamyboys5233
      @kaisamyboys5233 2 месяца назад

      Maybe because fnatic can play very good and be the best team in EU

    • @PastaDiMama44
      @PastaDiMama44 2 месяца назад

      But i disagree on FNC being good with macro.
      Every game they try to gain early leads & win the game around baron/dragon fights by having 3/4k gold advantage.
      They didn't play good macro vs G2. They were 13k gold ahead and were afraid to run smolder down so they took all objectives side lanes because they had to do something and wait for an opening to engage on smolder.

    • @doomse150
      @doomse150 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@PastaDiMama44 They were "scared" to run at Smolder because Smolder would (and on multiple occasions almost did) wipe them off the map even at 13k gold lead. Yes, the champ is that broken that he can wipe your team even at such a disadvantage. The fact that they managed to win that game through sidelanes playing away from Smolder is a good thing regarding macro, you make it sound like it's a negative xD
      To an extent it feels like you wanted them to throw the game by running down Smolder and getting wiped in the process, and you're now just salty that they didn't throw like that.
      So yes, whether you want to admit that or not, their macro vs G2 was insanely clean, exactly because it didn't have to rely on running at people and teamfight them.

    • @PastaDiMama44
      @PastaDiMama44 2 месяца назад

      @@doomse150 i'm didn't mean to be negative towards FNC.
      But they play for leads early game by punishing enemy mistakes or enemy understimating FNC diving them (which is a good thing).
      Like when Hans Sama went back to lane after getting 2 kills & Noah killing him right after because he didn't reset.
      But its not that FNC wins games because of macro plays.
      They played away from Smolder late game because its OP. Smolder can't be in 3 lanes at same time so taking inner & outer turrets isnt hard at that point since they had a 10+k gold lead and owned the map.
      But they didn't get that lead because they played a good macro game. They won early. G2 kept forcing fights when behind & FNC punished them for it

  • @exoria1098
    @exoria1098 2 месяца назад +3

    I think its embarrassing we don’t use scrims as proper practice games because of mindsets that just aren’t willing. If I didn’t play seriously in the in team American football matches I wouldn’t even be put in the actual game.

  • @dps0610
    @dps0610 2 месяца назад +7

    I disagree so hard with practice can’t replicate real games. It’s only an issue with esports. If a physical sport is failing at practice there’s massive punishments and they’re immediate. It’s on teams and coaches to honestly start training players to take it seriously or they’re not cut out to be pros.

    • @Omnilatent
      @Omnilatent 2 месяца назад

      I only know it from football but not a single practice is like a real game cause barely any team has 22+ players and there's higher risk of injury. So what you basically do is practice in ... practice mode.

    • @dps0610
      @dps0610 2 месяца назад

      @@Omnilatent if we practiced slow it was hills for 3 hours.

  • @fareschaaya3742
    @fareschaaya3742 2 месяца назад

    financial incentive for scrims, how about it boys?

    • @yusufali8364
      @yusufali8364 2 месяца назад

      Champions queue was ditched despite having financial incentive, what makes you think they'll take scrims seriously with financial incentive? It'll be useful for at most 3 splits before these lazy bums revert to their old ways. They are essentially being paid to play League, that includes scrim, solo queue, draft meetings etc. as well not just official games. If they really wanted it, they would take solo queue and scrims more seriously instead of complaining about it.

  • @PayamRPooya
    @PayamRPooya 2 месяца назад +1

    Why No one hold Falco accountable for G2 draft problems ? I don't care how confident players are , you don't draft Ahri Leesin into locked Taliyah and famous Poppy player . Also you don't draft carry top and jng , when you have late game ADC . Falco drafting is bad and he keeps getting away with it because of G2 players mechanics . i do think best chance for G2 is promoting Duffman head coach

    • @chrisfull7034
      @chrisfull7034 2 месяца назад

      god i wish i was this dumb, life would be so blissful

    • @PayamRPooya
      @PayamRPooya Месяц назад

      @@chrisfull7034 Dont worry dear, declaring you are not dumb , is a pretty dumb thing to do ;-) but if somehow you have a counter argument , i be glad to hear it

  • @pandawid4068
    @pandawid4068 2 месяца назад +1

    8:55 bro play this machup and say it again, its counterpick in mid/late, in early is ksante favored

    • @eidamgouda0609
      @eidamgouda0609 2 месяца назад +1

      If you really good player, you can push Ksante, if you look at best players in world, Gwen is usually winning, but I agree its really hard to play her properly. Of course that Ksante can have windows, but no way that Gwen should get solokilled couple of times. Good player can just push Ksante and scale freely to the point, where you can beat him. Especially after the Ksante nerfs I’m not even sure, if you have the windows

  • @PayAttEx
    @PayAttEx 2 месяца назад

    Yeah our teams goign to MSI better bring a lot of lube with themselves for what is about to happen.

  • @mystickim5338
    @mystickim5338 2 месяца назад

    I disagree with the Varus/Ashe take, are these guys even watching the games. The only reason that no one in the LEC is playing it is because either Ashe or Varus are banned every game. It is unlikely that one or the other isn't banned.

  • @DannyHranica
    @DannyHranica 2 месяца назад +4

    Still trying to sell Nisqy?🤡

    • @adju2912
      @adju2912 2 месяца назад

      He's easily the best player in his team and probably the second best midlaner in LEC

    • @JdB1008
      @JdB1008 2 месяца назад

      You trippin mate 😂😂​@@adju2912

    • @Kiiiurself8482
      @Kiiiurself8482 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@adju2912nah he might be top 4 but Caps Humanoid and Vetheo are fat better than him and im sure Fresskowy Zwyro could give him a fair fight

    • @sentoo7606
      @sentoo7606 2 месяца назад +1

      @@adju2912 3rd best midlaner in LEC is fair take. But Humanoid and Caps are 100% first and secound.

  • @BoxingUniverse_
    @BoxingUniverse_ 2 месяца назад +1

    KC is such a bad team, they are as bad as an LCS team

  • @whydidyoutubeaddthis
    @whydidyoutubeaddthis 2 месяца назад

    Oh what's wrong with his hair

  • @potato1499
    @potato1499 2 месяца назад +4

    Man like I want to like like watch the video like but like all the like is like kinda like making me like annoyed like

  • @iskrenstoyanov5260
    @iskrenstoyanov5260 2 месяца назад

    When G2 3:0 week we get half the episode for them, when other teams performs better, we talk about them for 10 minutes, still making it mostly about G2, biased much

    • @PastaDiMama44
      @PastaDiMama44 2 месяца назад

      They literally talked same amount of time about TH & G2 last episode because Wunder & Mikyx were the guests.
      Ofcourse you can talk longer about 1 team if you have a player in the studio to talk with about their team & any insights