Bennett's C6 DOES buff Pyro DMG for all users, not just Melee. The description of his C6 was just poorly worded. 3:01 - I put this clip right here to prove it. So even bow users and catalyst users will receive the 15% Pyro DMG buff. :D Hang out with me on: Twitch: www.twitch.tv/Sevy_Plays Discord: discord.gg/uU3W6PWFd3
Bennet c6 pyro buff AND pyro resonance is what has helped him be competitive in buffing yoimiya against yunjin but needless to say yunjin essentially replaces him and depending on the situation allows players to plug in a shielder instead or a different healer, etc...
@@AQWdraconian yea it depends on ur team. i use yoi + kazuha + benny + xingqiu so benny only buffs my yoimiya since xingqiu cant snapshot anyway (kazu full em build so atk buff doesnt matter)
@@rust8995 If u have Xinqiu free then Xinqiu is still better than Yunjin in monopyro Yoimiya, bcs Xinqiu can vaporize Yoimiya and Xiangling at the same time.
I think there's also something to be said about the upside Yun Jin's buff has by virtue of being attached to the character rather than a circle on the ground. The benefit of allowing for more flexible position while still maintaining the buff is hard to put a numerical value on, but it's still there. Especially when as of late we've gotten more and more enemies that like to move around or reposition themselves. The addition of Yun Jin to my team has made me a very, very happy Yoimiya player.
@@diesmochizou9595 Nah she was always underrated. Only recently because of Itto she became overrated. People like to do this with every f2p early game characters.
Yunjin compensates for low scaling because show provides base dmg, Bennett works with good attack scaling and normal attacks are so small that they can't really be considered good scaling
So, about Razor-Yun Jin. Problem with Razor-Bennet is 'Overloaded' and Razor's cc from 4th normal attack. Even though Bennet gives free reaction damage from standing in his circle and not even attacking - Razor doesn't snapshot Bennet's ult, so in most cases they are very bad together. With c3-c6 Yun Jin you can expect almost the same numbers, maybe even better overall damage if you have Yun Jin at c6. Her usability with Razor teams is top notch, since you don't even need a battery or elemental resonance from his teams - you can use full rainbow team. This clears up a much needed Bennet slot in many teams. You can even run her with 'NA' Zhongli-Bennet.
Wish there would be more normal attackers that would want yun jin. Most high tier dps rn either depends on burst and other way of attacking or that they already have teams that doesnt really have space for yun jin. Still props to yun jin for keeping up with bennet though.
I love both Bennett and Yun Jin, so I’m going to Build her for my Wanderer as Bennett would be hard to use what with Wanderer’s flying and all that stuff. Also, both Benny and Miss Yun are now C6.
Hoping to get extra copies of her on the standard banner with my saved up wishes for that banner. Can't wait for her re-run, since I don't want Shenhe, and I already have Xiao. Loving what she is bringing to the game
C6 Bennet user here, did not know that the pyro buff worked regardless of weapon usage - not that it affected my teams much (been using a Xiangling-Bennett-Raiden setup) A few things about hitting 80/90 would be getting the extra talent level in, I brought my Bennett to 90/90 with 2/9/9 talents, just working on my "OP meta core" rather than the constant flow of new main dps This patch so far is a pretty nice breath of fresh air.. we have 2 new supports to add to team comps rathee than dps - and the more surprising one is actually the 4*, hoping to C6 her eventually
I use Diluc main dps, I assume Yun Jin is not good with him? considering you weave in E between your normal attacks, and after his burst his normal attacks are imbued with pyro.
i saw a run c6 yunjin and Childe on 4p HOD , dudes childe was hitting like 15K Normals , Imagine how much damage that must be seeing as to c6 buffs his already fast attack to be faster and then add riptides . sheesh
it's important to note that bennett's c6 doesn't state that it affects anything but melee weapons... now i don't know if it actually does affect catalysts and bows, even though it states otherwise.
Yunjin: better for multi attack characters like keqinq, childe, yoimiya Bennett: better for burst, skill or charge attack dps like hutao, itto, xianling
How does yun jin compare to bennet anyway? Bennet gives atk while yun jin just increases normal attack damage, so how are they even comparable, like yun jin just cannot fix a lower atk
Man WHY HASNT ANYBODY TESTED HER ON RAZOR YET! He’s arguably the most normal atk focused 4-star in the game. EDIT: Oh wait I just realize Sevy can’t test him out since her Bennett is C6. Darn.
@@hntr5495 Ehhhh. Like someone else said she’s a 5-star, and she’s actually more ult focused than normal atk focused. Someone like Yoimiya has a much higher importance on normal atks than Eula (although Eula’s normals still hit hard).
@@hntr5495 No, Eula damage comes way more from her burst than her AA that is way Sea Lord Claymore is her best F2P weapon and even her talent priority is Q>AA>E
I wanted to get at least c2 for Yunjin but I got too lucky and got Shenhe and Mona in 18 pulls after getting Itto, now I am guaranteed for Zhongli and I don't wanna risk the guaranteed pity. I guess I'll try to get her constillations in future reruns.
I once used Yun Jin as a trial character in "A Study in Potions" event and I really noticed my Razor's damage was boosted a lot. Although I prefer him with my C3 Bennett, If I ever managed to get Yun Jin in the Lantern Rite for free, I would probably gonna test Razor out with both Bennett and Yun Jin with a cryo character as the last slot needed for superconduct (either Kaeya or Diona could do the trick as both can be batteries and can apply cryo decently, or Qiqi if the enemies have corrosion).
For my whale Noelle Yunjin has proved to be stronger than Benett. The killer combo is Yun Jin and Gorou both fueling Noelle. You can even triple Buff Noelle with Benett Gorou and Yun Jin for maximum Unga Bunga. That's why maining Noelle is awesome. Even if Benett couldn't heal, Noelle would be enough to heal the whole team so you can focus on maximising her DPS.
My only disappointment is that Gorou can't fully buff Yun Jin (she gets 25% DEF from his Q, but his E buff doesn't stay off-field) :/ imagine there being only 5 DEF-scaling characters in the game, and he doesn't even work with all of them...
I can finally say Bennett TRASH now! and hello YunJin in my party of mono geo. ahhh my Noelle... you are getting more and more thicc from the def% geo support characters.
At c6 yoimiya dmg with yunjin goes beyond bennet because yoimiya gets more hits in. She becomes speed yoi with yunjin c6. Add r5 deathmatch to yunjin as I have and even more potential. Shes great! In abyss youre probably using both of them and an electro unit like raiden or beidou to add more dmg to yoimiya. 36 star clears become easier with her
I use both of them in my team and tbh It's bean great mostly since she has a counter like beido whenever enemies are attacking imma switch to her real quick And she absorbs it all for the team. Overall I would like them to buff her like her bieng able to add some base attack to Elemental skill or something,tho I know it would make her too op for a support so yeah
while that seems nice its still nothing to bennet. With bennet you could take the hit in the face and you'll be fine. And since Yun Jin is gonna be niche she should have enabled normals to far surpass bennet and not just keep up.
@@Velvet-Of-Erion Your joking right its nowhere close to being much better. Even with the speed who is yun jin good with besides noel and yoimia? Yun Jin is not good with itto since she doesn't buff charge attacks. With fischel, bennet buffs Oz making bennet far superior. And bennet buffs other teamates so the slight advantage that yun jin gives over bennet for these 2 character could be negated by the buff from other team mates.
Something else to note about Fischl is that her optimal (but very technical) normal attack combo is 2NARR (two normal attacks and quickly going in and out of aimed shot mode). Because the first two normal attacks have low damage multipliers, the actual DPS disparity between Bennett and Yun Jin will be far greater on Fischl.
Yunjin seems like a huge deal for physical Fischl if you play her using the AARR Attack string since she buffs low multiplier attacks significantly more
Still.. Bennet C1 is a jump and the fact that C0 Yun Jin can compete means she is already strong enough even without cons in certain team.. But the problem is.. for new players getting her ascension mats.. im gonna write these down in the next survey..
@@sallyhope2137 An AR 10 definitely can run her as they are still operating with level limits and her first ascension just requires materials from Liyue. It is between AR25 and AR32 where you start running into issues with her. Although since she is a buffer having her at a slightly lower level than the rest of the party isn't too terribly bad.
@@axis9038 think about new players attracted to the new charas.. Itto, Aloy, Shenhe, etc.. of course new players play the game because you want to play the charas (mostly)
This will just get worse with every region. Imagine you start the game at the last region and have to play through the whole story first to get that one boss that has her mats.
Great video with good math, pretty much everything I'm looking for. However, the Bennet comparison for Noelle doesn't make sense to me because Bennet was never a core part of Noelle teams anyway. Noelle would prefer an off field dps or defense/geo damage buffer over a flat attack buffer because she already gets massive atk boost from burst. Relatively she gains less from Bennett buff versus say , a xiangling with 1.2k atk to start with, which goes up to 2.2k. I think a more apt geo character to use as a DPS test would be ningguang, since she is a more typical on field dps who relies on atk and Bennett is already a great support for her. I heard that yunjin and ning c1 work great together with a grouper but I don't have venti to test with.
you're right, but i think the noelle test proves a point, if the character has a high atk (like noelle in burst mode), yunjin's buff hits diminishing returns just like benny boost, and yunjin's buff isn't the best for noelle (or NAs for itto)
I think this is somewhat of a misconception (not entirely). While Noelle does get less from a Bennett buff than most characters, it is still substantial. The Bennett in this video buffs ATK by over 1000. Even for a 4k or 5k ATK Noelle, that is a 20-25% increase. Compared to that, a burst 11 Gorou provides only around 700 ATK. For me personally, both Bennett and Yun Jin buff Noelle more than Gorou does. He might edge out at C6, but I don't have that. About Ningguang, she might get one of the biggest boosts from Yun Jin out of anyone, because each NA strikes twice with very low multipliers. Yun Jin can triple that damage and NAs are Ningguang's main/only "weak" spot in her kit.
@@theshard5697 I am in complete agreement with you here. I do want to point out that Gorou also provides a 15% geo dmg bonus when you have three geo characters on the team, which is a nice buff on top of the def to attack bonus he provides through her burst. I love to see new types of buffing characters and you guys talking about Ningguang makes me wanna test her out with Yun Jin when I'm able to get a copy of her!
@@acardoza1234 C2 Yun jin also gives 15% NA damage, and you dont need 3 geos in the party for that :P I get that Gorou's buff is baseline, but his constellations in general are very lackluster imo and now that Yun Jin is out, his weaknesses stick out even more.
@@theshard5697 That's a very good point! I forgot about that constellation lol. I agree that I wish either Gorou's base kit or his cons (C6 aside obviously) were a little better. I still love the good boy, but it would have been cool if he filled his def / geo buff role a little better. Who knows when I'll actually get his C6 and experience his full potential for my teams 😅
As much as i love Bennett, i gotta say Yun Jin is better as attack buff because unlike Bennett is it's not a fix zone and it gives you more freedom to move and reposition. But again, Benny boy gives heal and pyro so he's still the champ 😆
This works very well, its been tested and a bit like Fischl first normal, it gets a much much larger buff then is to be expected. Zhongli (spear kick) and Xiangling's multi-hits are similar. With Fischl you still want Oz you just summon him before, do team rotation, he drops off about half way through Yun Jin's burst and you enjoy the C1 for a few seconds and resummon him when Yun Jin buff ends. It almost makes me wonder if the 5s passive on Mitternachts Waltz was intentional, but i believe that bow was designed way way before Yun Jin's kit was finalized.
1. I don't like Benette and Xingqiu - so I don't build/play them. 2. Yun Jin is very flexibel and her kit very well tought through. 3. My favourite playstyle is attacking with normal attacks. 4. I love playing "bad" units and try making them good. That means that Yun Jin is one of the best charakters my Account could get. Her Design, her Kit...everything is very appealing to me. Good that I pulled 2 on my way to Shenhe...That means after the guaranteed Event 4 Star I will have her at C2.
You can and add a Zhongli so you have Pyro and Geo resonance which both boost your damage plus Zhongli resistance shred and no interruptions. Perfect team.
Tbh if yiu want your charcter to deal more dmg in elemental burst/skills/charged attacks go for Bennett but if your running dps kokomi you can use yunjin since she's mostly best in normal attacks and not that much in charged attacks but yunjin is viable, same goes with childe
No no no... Childe + Bennett is a Vape combo staple lol. If your Benny is built right, you can throw 160k+ bursts effortlessly with just the 2 of them in your team... Benny + Hydro = big vapes
Why is nobody testing Yunjin on spear characters with multi hit attacks? Yunjin's buff should work like crescent pike, meaning things like crescent pike physical zhongli would work really well with Yunjin, severely buffing his N4's damage.
I did on the potions event (dont have Yun Jin but shes a trial character there), it works great, Zhongli was hitting 8-10K normal hits with Crescent Pike R5 (+ whatever the passive gives) This is what I love about Yun Jin, she opens up so many possibilities because she works best with chars who attack fast but have low modifiers, and can turn a lot of characters into viable main dps
Do they stack with one another? If so, I kinda wanna see a Bennett, Yun Jin, Crowned Normal Attack Noelle, and Childe (for the elemental variety and the party Normal Attack +1 Talent).
Yeah, she can easily more than double several characters' damage output while Bennett can really only do that for Klee, Diluc and Xiangling. Interestingly, while Bennett is generally thought of as the most general support, the two are best for different characters, and Bennett's becoming less and less useful with characters like Itto and Yun herself that do not scale primarily on ATK (obviously some characters don't use normal attacks either). By the way, Yun Jin doesn't snapshot and I'm pretty sure Deathmatch only affects DEF while the character is on-field so it'll only make her E slightly stronger, not her Q. All the more reason not to use it.
Also for people (couldn't be me) that don't mind using Bennett as well, keep in mind they do work together AND they mean you can basically have a Bennett on both teams in Abyss, as long as you use them with the appropriate characters. Probably makes using Bennett for a national team on one side a lot less painful when you have Yun for the other side.
YunJin is not a support! She is a sub-DPS adding flat additional damage directly comparable with Beidou, Xingqiu, or C6 Fischl. She does "more" than a Bennett in these examples because she is providing the *same* benefit in all examples. The question of who to slot in is one of "enhancer" vs. "sub". Enhancer characters like Sucrose and Bennett add stats and help fill out builds, they are in a different class! And picking between an enhancer and a sub is a question of where you are lacking. Generally speaking, the better built your main DPS, the more enhancers will hit diminishing returns. Consider, if you bring Beidou, you also want an enhancer like Bennett to support both her and your main, yes? It's the same with YunJin. You want to bring a Gorou or Sucrose with her to support the damage she provides.
Thanks for the very clear and thorough testing, this video was very well put together. I appreciate the patience it must have taken to hold off on claiming your constellations to test at different levels. Good stuff!
best team comp so far i think is yoimiya kokomi fischl yunjin, all three got boost from yunjin, and kokomi water application is sufficient for yoimiya to trigger vape on every cooldown, and fischl overload add yoimiya AOE capability. also both kokomi + fischl electro charge combo is good for AOE too, very well all around team comp, not to mention the team comp take no xingqiu, no xiangling, no bennet, free up slots for other team.
I’ve got C1 Yun Jin atm, but we still have much time to summon plus the free unit. DOES THIS MEAN WE CAN RUN FISCHL MAIN DPS TEAMS AGAIN!?!?! Her royalty is back!
Not me pulling C3 Yun Jin while trying to get Xiao and not even having Inazuma unlocked on my new account. So far I have gotten Thoma, Sayu, Kujou Sara, Gorou and C3 Yun Jin. All of which are waiting for me to rush to Inazuma. On my main account I could manage to get any of them :,)
just came across this vid. im so glad i lost in yoimiya's banner (77 mona, 79 yoimiya) cuz i now have c5 bennett, c5 yunjin in just a single banner. started playing few days before 2.7 ended
If I were to main a physical fischl, should I go for full pale flame or 2 pale & 2 blood and for weapon should I use her signature weapon? Compound bow? Or rust? Assuming all is R1.
Bennett is way better than you think. Bennett allows you to use VV on ur team which means sucrose or kazuha can come in the party which will skyrocket Yoimiya's DMG output even more.
Me who has c3 yun jin and was to lazy to build her: fine I'll do it myself Realistically though most of my team is geo so I'll probably try to fit her in and see if she stacks well.
If you have no use for Bennett other than a Yoimiya team, what's the point of using Yun Jin instead? She locks Yoi mono pyro, while Bennett allows for vape comps.
im happy with Yun Jin got her for free from the event as im broke from Ganyu i might not be able to get Zongli for my Ning team so Yun Jin will be a fine sub till Zongli gets another rerun well see if i do get lucky till his banner goes away
Bennett's C6 DOES buff Pyro DMG for all users, not just Melee. The description of his C6 was just poorly worded. 3:01 - I put this clip right here to prove it. So even bow users and catalyst users will receive the 15% Pyro DMG buff. :D
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yun jin might have outstripped bennet for yoimiya if she had 4 different elements on her team to make up for bennet's pyro buff!
Bennet c6 pyro buff AND pyro resonance is what has helped him be competitive in buffing yoimiya against yunjin but needless to say yunjin essentially replaces him and depending on the situation allows players to plug in a shielder instead or a different healer, etc...
What about Childe + Yun jin? Is she better than bennett?
@@kiviger7507 yep! she can make him do main dps damage with his skill active. he has very low attk scaling so bennet doesnt do much for him
I want to ask would yunjin or xinqiu be better for my yoimiya
the best thing about yunjin is that she allows you to use bennett on the other team while using yoimiya because her buff is comparable
Doing similar buffing without using Noblesse nor Pyro resonance is no small feat.
Doesn't buff any supports though so if you're using Beidou or Fischl with Yoimiya you will lose a large chunk of damage
@@AQWdraconian yea it depends on ur team. i use yoi + kazuha + benny + xingqiu so benny only buffs my yoimiya since xingqiu cant snapshot anyway (kazu full em build so atk buff doesnt matter)
@@Vizible21 how is saying yunjin is good equal to ignoring others? these statements can coexist
@@rust8995 If u have Xinqiu free then Xinqiu is still better than Yunjin in monopyro Yoimiya, bcs Xinqiu can vaporize Yoimiya and Xiangling at the same time.
I think there's also something to be said about the upside Yun Jin's buff has by virtue of being attached to the character rather than a circle on the ground. The benefit of allowing for more flexible position while still maintaining the buff is hard to put a numerical value on, but it's still there. Especially when as of late we've gotten more and more enemies that like to move around or reposition themselves.
The addition of Yun Jin to my team has made me a very, very happy Yoimiya player.
Thanks for including Noelle in the comparison! I know she's not the most popular dps but she just goes with Yun Jin so well
@@diesmochizou9595 Nah she was always underrated. Only recently because of Itto she became overrated. People like to do this with every f2p early game characters.
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Yunjin compensates for low scaling because show provides base dmg, Bennett works with good attack scaling and normal attacks are so small that they can't really be considered good scaling
I wish there was a Yoimiya +Bennet+Yoimiya just to see the damage increase
So, about Razor-Yun Jin. Problem with Razor-Bennet is 'Overloaded' and Razor's cc from 4th normal attack. Even though Bennet gives free reaction damage from standing in his circle and not even attacking - Razor doesn't snapshot Bennet's ult, so in most cases they are very bad together. With c3-c6 Yun Jin you can expect almost the same numbers, maybe even better overall damage if you have Yun Jin at c6. Her usability with Razor teams is top notch, since you don't even need a battery or elemental resonance from his teams - you can use full rainbow team. This clears up a much needed Bennet slot in many teams. You can even run her with 'NA' Zhongli-Bennet.
Wish there would be more normal attackers that would want yun jin. Most high tier dps rn either depends on burst and other way of attacking or that they already have teams that doesnt really have space for yun jin. Still props to yun jin for keeping up with bennet though.
I love both Bennett and Yun Jin, so I’m going to Build her for my Wanderer as Bennett would be hard to use what with Wanderer’s flying and all that stuff.
Also, both Benny and Miss Yun are now C6.
Hoping to get extra copies of her on the standard banner with my saved up wishes for that banner.
Can't wait for her re-run, since I don't want Shenhe, and I already have Xiao.
Loving what she is bringing to the game
C6 Bennet user here, did not know that the pyro buff worked regardless of weapon usage - not that it affected my teams much (been using a Xiangling-Bennett-Raiden setup)
A few things about hitting 80/90 would be getting the extra talent level in, I brought my Bennett to 90/90 with 2/9/9 talents, just working on my "OP meta core" rather than the constant flow of new main dps
This patch so far is a pretty nice breath of fresh air.. we have 2 new supports to add to team comps rathee than dps - and the more surprising one is actually the 4*, hoping to C6 her eventually
Nice video as always, can you please do a comparison with 4pc Petra yunjin on elemental carries like yoi vs 4pc husk?
Thank you for your vids
doesnt Yun Jin buff just normal attack and not skill and burst ? while Bennet does general buff
Yeah but yunjin buffs normal attacks more than Bennett
@@Ryuu39 normal attacks dont matter in most builds tho , that is the point
@@justtemmie5761 key word "most" there are some characters that depend on it like yoimiya
@@Ryuu39 nobody plays yoimiya tho , u can even check lol
How about having Bennet and Yu Jin in the same team comm? how the buffs stack on top of the other for the DPS?
I use Diluc main dps, I assume Yun Jin is not good with him? considering you weave in E between your normal attacks, and after his burst his normal attacks are imbued with pyro.
Now imagine putting benny and yunjin in the same team
Imagine the Ganyu nukes if she worked with charged attacks... Her + Zhongli + Ganyu +1 = big girl damage
Can't wait for the Lantern Rite to get her!
My character highlight of 2.4
Since I use benny with Childe Sucrose and Xiangling, I think not having Yunjin isn't a huge loss for me to be honest.
i saw a run c6 yunjin and Childe on 4p HOD , dudes childe was hitting like 15K Normals , Imagine how much damage that must be seeing as to c6 buffs his already fast attack to be faster and then add riptides . sheesh
I wonder how an em piece on yomiya would do in a comparison given Yun Jin buff works better with less atk%
I have Jun yin at c3. Didnt ask for it. And I dont have enough material so she's at lvl 30 and is going to stay that way a while sigh
Do y’all think that yunjin will perform better then bonito for yae? Since she has low normal attack multiplier i think
I wonder if Yunjin buff will work on Childe's melee stance..
It does.
@@cocoamartin9906 ah, i see..
Thankyou very much for the confirmation.. x'D
@@falma0029 Check out Sekapoko's yunjin first impression. He uses childe to fight masanori with yunjin and it buffs him.
@@cocoamartin9906 Ah, thanks..!
Will check it in a bit.. x')
4:15 why fischl's attacks are white not Pyro? I don't quite understand Benny's c6 😕
@@ceci--lia oh
it's important to note that bennett's c6 doesn't state that it affects anything but melee weapons... now i don't know if it actually does affect catalysts and bows, even though it states otherwise.
the infusion doesnt say it wont work on ranged weapons but that is the case. the fischl test is proof, it doesn't infuse bow attacks.
It does. All characters get 15% pyro damage bonus, but Catalysts and Bows don't get Pyro infusion.
But what does it look like if you use both of them at the same time?
Bennett, You have done well my friend, rest well.
How is fischl still doing Physical dmge here though 4:18 ? Unless i am missing something 😬
if it wasnt for this video I would never know how powerful she is, almost Bennett level. Thanks for sharing this.
well this gets interesting, I wonder how hard Eula's normals will hit.
Mono geo team: Albedo, Yunjin, Gorou, Noelle.
For overall dmg, is it better to go with 4-piece Noblesse or 4-piece Husk on Yunjin?
Yunjin: better for multi attack characters like keqinq, childe, yoimiya
Bennett: better for burst, skill or charge attack dps like hutao, itto, xianling
As a Yoimiya main, the best thing Yun Jin brings to the table is that now I have a viable substitute for Benny, so I can use him in my second team!
Or foraximum destruction, combine yunjin, benny. And xingqiu.
@@themagikconk does this actually work? I mean I'm building my Yujin and yet I haven't seen a big dmg upgrade on using both her and bennett
What about healing???
@@PureGaming007 I usually run Yoimiya with Zhongli as well, so there's no need for a healer
How does yun jin compare to bennet anyway? Bennet gives atk while yun jin just increases normal attack damage, so how are they even comparable, like yun jin just cannot fix a lower atk
I want her C3 but I’m F2P and don’t want to risk ruining my chances for Ganyu. Maybe next time
Don't worry, yunjin is a 4 star, so definitely we can have her constellations anytime in any banner if we are lucky enough that she pops up.
You can get her for free in the coming event
I feel you
Smart choice
You might be waiting for quite some time for that one. Sumeru is around the corner. More characters will be getting added.
Man WHY HASNT ANYBODY TESTED HER ON RAZOR YET! He’s arguably the most normal atk focused 4-star in the game.
EDIT: Oh wait I just realize Sevy can’t test him out since her Bennett is C6. Darn.
Isnt that also Eula?
Brooo I’ve been asking the same thing!!!!
@@hntr5495 4*
@@hntr5495 Ehhhh. Like someone else said she’s a 5-star, and she’s actually more ult focused than normal atk focused. Someone like Yoimiya has a much higher importance on normal atks than Eula (although Eula’s normals still hit hard).
@@hntr5495 No, Eula damage comes way more from her burst than her AA that is way Sea Lord Claymore is her best F2P weapon and even her talent priority is Q>AA>E
It's a huge factor that the buff moves with you as well.
I wanted to get at least c2 for Yunjin but I got too lucky and got Shenhe and Mona in 18 pulls after getting Itto, now I am guaranteed for Zhongli and I don't wanna risk the guaranteed pity. I guess I'll try to get her constillations in future reruns.
Suffering from success
Get a con from Lantern Rite!
@@chelseakuwahara2197 I will
I loss 50/50 shenhe to diluc lmao. But im gonna skip zhongli and wait for kazuha.
Can you explain what did you mean by guaranteed pity? Shouldn't you have 80 more pulls to get Zhongli after pulling a 5-star character?
I once used Yun Jin as a trial character in "A Study in Potions" event and I really noticed my Razor's damage was boosted a lot. Although I prefer him with my C3 Bennett, If I ever managed to get Yun Jin in the Lantern Rite for free, I would probably gonna test Razor out with both Bennett and Yun Jin with a cryo character as the last slot needed for superconduct (either Kaeya or Diona could do the trick as both can be batteries and can apply cryo decently, or Qiqi if the enemies have corrosion).
Hye Razor main 👊🏻
@@koiex7970 not a Razor Main but I love using him tho. I'm a Qiqi Main actually.
I love how every single constellation boost her support capacity even c4 gives her more defense allowing for more scaling with her ult
For my whale Noelle Yunjin has proved to be stronger than Benett. The killer combo is Yun Jin and Gorou both fueling Noelle. You can even triple Buff Noelle with Benett Gorou and Yun Jin for maximum Unga Bunga. That's why maining Noelle is awesome. Even if Benett couldn't heal, Noelle would be enough to heal the whole team so you can focus on maximising her DPS.
My only disappointment is that Gorou can't fully buff Yun Jin (she gets 25% DEF from his Q, but his E buff doesn't stay off-field) :/ imagine there being only 5 DEF-scaling characters in the game, and he doesn't even work with all of them...
Maining Noelle is awesome (if she's c6)
@@gaeuchyaer5338 agreed. Only shelfed her for Itto cause I love hurling the cow at people...
@@theshard5697 what do you mean by off-field? Which characters can't Gorou buff?
@@ThatOneGanyuMain Yun Jin can't make use of Gorou's E DEF buff.
I can finally say Bennett TRASH now! and hello YunJin in my party of mono geo.
ahhh my Noelle... you are getting more and more thicc from the def% geo support characters.
At c6 yoimiya dmg with yunjin goes beyond bennet because yoimiya gets more hits in. She becomes speed yoi with yunjin c6.
Add r5 deathmatch to yunjin as I have and even more potential. Shes great! In abyss youre probably using both of them and an electro unit like raiden or beidou to add more dmg to yoimiya. 36 star clears become easier with her
I use both of them in my team and tbh
It's bean great mostly since she has a counter like beido whenever enemies are attacking imma switch to her real quick
And she absorbs it all for the team.
Overall I would like them to buff her like her bieng able to add some base attack to Elemental skill or something,tho I know it would make her too op for a support so yeah
while that seems nice its still nothing to bennet. With bennet you could take the hit in the face and you'll be fine. And since Yun Jin is gonna be niche she should have enabled normals to far surpass bennet and not just keep up.
@@SaintDragon666 did you see the video? She doesnt keep up, she surpasses. Imagine at c6 with the speed
@@Velvet-Of-Erion Your joking right its nowhere close to being much better. Even with the speed who is yun jin good with besides noel and yoimia? Yun Jin is not good with itto since she doesn't buff charge attacks. With fischel, bennet buffs Oz making bennet far superior. And bennet buffs other teamates so the slight advantage that yun jin gives over bennet for these 2 character could be negated by the buff from other team mates.
@@Velvet-Of-Erion The main beniffit from yun jin is that she frees up bennet for other teams. Shes not much of an upgrade over bennet.
Something else to note about Fischl is that her optimal (but very technical) normal attack combo is 2NARR (two normal attacks and quickly going in and out of aimed shot mode). Because the first two normal attacks have low damage multipliers, the actual DPS disparity between Bennett and Yun Jin will be far greater on Fischl.
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Yunjin seems like a huge deal for physical Fischl if you play her using the AARR Attack string since she buffs low multiplier attacks significantly more
Still.. Bennet C1 is a jump and the fact that C0 Yun Jin can compete means she is already strong enough even without cons in certain team..
But the problem is.. for new players getting her ascension mats.. im gonna write these down in the next survey..
New players don’t need Bennett or Yunjin
@@sallyhope2137 An AR 10 definitely can run her as they are still operating with level limits and her first ascension just requires materials from Liyue. It is between AR25 and AR32 where you start running into issues with her. Although since she is a buffer having her at a slightly lower level than the rest of the party isn't too terribly bad.
@@axis9038 think about new players attracted to the new charas.. Itto, Aloy, Shenhe, etc.. of course new players play the game because you want to play the charas (mostly)
This will just get worse with every region. Imagine you start the game at the last region and have to play through the whole story first to get that one boss that has her mats.
Great video with good math, pretty much everything I'm looking for. However, the Bennet comparison for Noelle doesn't make sense to me because Bennet was never a core part of Noelle teams anyway. Noelle would prefer an off field dps or defense/geo damage buffer over a flat attack buffer because she already gets massive atk boost from burst. Relatively she gains less from Bennett buff versus say , a xiangling with 1.2k atk to start with, which goes up to 2.2k. I think a more apt geo character to use as a DPS test would be ningguang, since she is a more typical on field dps who relies on atk and Bennett is already a great support for her. I heard that yunjin and ning c1 work great together with a grouper but I don't have venti to test with.
you're right, but i think the noelle test proves a point, if the character has a high atk (like noelle in burst mode), yunjin's buff hits diminishing returns just like benny boost, and yunjin's buff isn't the best for noelle (or NAs for itto)
I think this is somewhat of a misconception (not entirely).
While Noelle does get less from a Bennett buff than most characters, it is still substantial. The Bennett in this video buffs ATK by over 1000. Even for a 4k or 5k ATK Noelle, that is a 20-25% increase.
Compared to that, a burst 11 Gorou provides only around 700 ATK.
For me personally, both Bennett and Yun Jin buff Noelle more than Gorou does. He might edge out at C6, but I don't have that.
About Ningguang, she might get one of the biggest boosts from Yun Jin out of anyone, because each NA strikes twice with very low multipliers. Yun Jin can triple that damage and NAs are Ningguang's main/only "weak" spot in her kit.
@@theshard5697 I am in complete agreement with you here. I do want to point out that Gorou also provides a 15% geo dmg bonus when you have three geo characters on the team, which is a nice buff on top of the def to attack bonus he provides through her burst. I love to see new types of buffing characters and you guys talking about Ningguang makes me wanna test her out with Yun Jin when I'm able to get a copy of her!
@@acardoza1234 C2 Yun jin also gives 15% NA damage, and you dont need 3 geos in the party for that :P
I get that Gorou's buff is baseline, but his constellations in general are very lackluster imo and now that Yun Jin is out, his weaknesses stick out even more.
@@theshard5697 That's a very good point! I forgot about that constellation lol. I agree that I wish either Gorou's base kit or his cons (C6 aside obviously) were a little better. I still love the good boy, but it would have been cool if he filled his def / geo buff role a little better. Who knows when I'll actually get his C6 and experience his full potential for my teams 😅
As much as i love Bennett, i gotta say Yun Jin is better as attack buff because unlike Bennett is it's not a fix zone and it gives you more freedom to move and reposition.
But again, Benny boy gives heal and pyro so he's still the champ 😆
For Fischl, it would have been interesting to see comparison when Oz isn't out, as her c1 procs should theoretically proc Yunjin buff as well.
Wouldn't that just mean she burns the stack much faster?
Interesting. I got that C1 so I will be able to test that later. I am now curious 🤔
This works very well, its been tested and a bit like Fischl first normal, it gets a much much larger buff then is to be expected. Zhongli (spear kick) and Xiangling's multi-hits are similar. With Fischl you still want Oz you just summon him before, do team rotation, he drops off about half way through Yun Jin's burst and you enjoy the C1 for a few seconds and resummon him when Yun Jin buff ends.
It almost makes me wonder if the 5s passive on Mitternachts Waltz was intentional, but i believe that bow was designed way way before Yun Jin's kit was finalized.
You should be more worry about not being able to use up the stacks, which is what happens with most characters.
1. I don't like Benette and Xingqiu - so I don't build/play them.
2. Yun Jin is very flexibel and her kit very well tought through.
3. My favourite playstyle is attacking with normal attacks.
4. I love playing "bad" units and try making them good.
That means that Yun Jin is one of the best charakters my Account could get. Her Design, her Kit...everything is very appealing to me. Good that I pulled 2 on my way to Shenhe...That means after the guaranteed Event 4 Star I will have her at C2.
The people that use Yun Jin and Bennett on the same team: “As you can see, my Jedi powers are far superior to yours.”
One good thing is you can use both in the same team.
You can and add a Zhongli so you have Pyro and Geo resonance which both boost your damage plus Zhongli resistance shred and no interruptions. Perfect team.
How is she with childe?🤔
Tbh if yiu want your charcter to deal more dmg in elemental burst/skills/charged attacks go for Bennett but if your running dps kokomi you can use yunjin since she's mostly best in normal attacks and not that much in charged attacks but yunjin is viable, same goes with childe
No no no... Childe + Bennett is a Vape combo staple lol.
If your Benny is built right, you can throw 160k+ bursts effortlessly with just the 2 of them in your team... Benny + Hydro = big vapes
Why is nobody testing Yunjin on spear characters with multi hit attacks? Yunjin's buff should work like crescent pike, meaning things like crescent pike physical zhongli would work really well with Yunjin, severely buffing his N4's damage.
Gacha gamer tested it
I did on the potions event (dont have Yun Jin but shes a trial character there), it works great, Zhongli was hitting 8-10K normal hits with Crescent Pike R5 (+ whatever the passive gives)
This is what I love about Yun Jin, she opens up so many possibilities because she works best with chars who attack fast but have low modifiers, and can turn a lot of characters into viable main dps
Imagine havingo both C6 Bennet and C6 Yun Jin dor your Yoimia
Godmiya
Interesting comparison. I do think it's better to have Geo Resonance than to max out on Yun Jin's passive but otherwise I think it's a good test.
Do they stack with one another? If so, I kinda wanna see a Bennett, Yun Jin, Crowned Normal Attack Noelle, and Childe (for the elemental variety and the party Normal Attack +1 Talent).
Im gunna make the most busted fking razor team ever i cant fking wait
Yun Jin is machine-gun Fischl's armor piercing magazine.
Yeah, she can easily more than double several characters' damage output while Bennett can really only do that for Klee, Diluc and Xiangling. Interestingly, while Bennett is generally thought of as the most general support, the two are best for different characters, and Bennett's becoming less and less useful with characters like Itto and Yun herself that do not scale primarily on ATK (obviously some characters don't use normal attacks either).
By the way, Yun Jin doesn't snapshot and I'm pretty sure Deathmatch only affects DEF while the character is on-field so it'll only make her E slightly stronger, not her Q. All the more reason not to use it.
Also for people (couldn't be me) that don't mind using Bennett as well, keep in mind they do work together AND they mean you can basically have a Bennett on both teams in Abyss, as long as you use them with the appropriate characters. Probably makes using Bennett for a national team on one side a lot less painful when you have Yun for the other side.
I love yunjin for Geo team especially with Zhongli Itto and Gorou! Never know that she'll be pretty good on other teams too hehe thanksss sevy
Now imagine that yunjin is not a buffer, just imagine yunjin is a normal attack shenhe and is more like a sub-dps. Just imagine
I want to see if this yunjin can do more to my Eula
As someone that doesn't have bennet this is gold
I thought Bennett C6 doesn't boost yoimiyas pyro dmg. So C5 or C6 Bennett won't make any difference for yoimiyas.
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@@SevyPlays i mean i just learned that thanks to you😅. thanks for the video. Btw i been playing since the game released 😀
@@sierraplayn7211 if only it weren't poorly worded 😪
Thanks .. you helped me a lot
YunJin is not a support! She is a sub-DPS adding flat additional damage directly comparable with Beidou, Xingqiu, or C6 Fischl. She does "more" than a Bennett in these examples because she is providing the *same* benefit in all examples.
The question of who to slot in is one of "enhancer" vs. "sub". Enhancer characters like Sucrose and Bennett add stats and help fill out builds, they are in a different class! And picking between an enhancer and a sub is a question of where you are lacking. Generally speaking, the better built your main DPS, the more enhancers will hit diminishing returns.
Consider, if you bring Beidou, you also want an enhancer like Bennett to support both her and your main, yes? It's the same with YunJin. You want to bring a Gorou or Sucrose with her to support the damage she provides.
This is one of the best review, because she slow down the video so we can understand easily thank you
Please do an updated Zhongli build video.
Thanks for the very clear and thorough testing, this video was very well put together. I appreciate the patience it must have taken to hold off on claiming your constellations to test at different levels. Good stuff!
I've been using her along my razor and is really nice
F2p here been playing fir couple months and noticed getting constellation for charaters is a pain in booty
best team comp so far i think is yoimiya kokomi fischl yunjin, all three got boost from yunjin, and kokomi water application is sufficient for yoimiya to trigger vape on every cooldown, and fischl overload add yoimiya AOE capability. also both kokomi + fischl electro charge combo is good for AOE too, very well all around team comp, not to mention the team comp take no xingqiu, no xiangling, no bennet, free up slots for other team.
Basically if atk multiplier is less than 100% Bennett buff would get wasted.
Yoimiya has more than 100% atk multiplier so full buff is utilised.
Your video is always very precise and informative, I'm so glad youtube recommend your channel 🥺 Thank you for the comparison!
I’ve got C1 Yun Jin atm, but we still have much time to summon plus the free unit. DOES THIS MEAN WE CAN RUN FISCHL MAIN DPS TEAMS AGAIN!?!?! Her royalty is back!
Not me pulling C3 Yun Jin while trying to get Xiao and not even having Inazuma unlocked on my new account. So far I have gotten Thoma, Sayu, Kujou Sara, Gorou and C3 Yun Jin. All of which are waiting for me to rush to Inazuma. On my main account I could manage to get any of them :,)
just came across this vid. im so glad i lost in yoimiya's banner (77 mona, 79 yoimiya) cuz i now have c5 bennett, c5 yunjin in just a single banner. started playing few days before 2.7 ended
If I were to main a physical fischl, should I go for full pale flame or 2 pale & 2 blood and for weapon should I use her signature weapon? Compound bow? Or rust? Assuming all is R1.
AR 56 first week player and I have no Bennet lol, genuinely excited for Yunjin now since I'm a Yoimiya, Fischl, and Noelle main
Bennett is way better than you think. Bennett allows you to use VV on ur team which means sucrose or kazuha can come in the party which will skyrocket Yoimiya's DMG output even more.
Me who has c3 yun jin and was to lazy to build her: fine I'll do it myself
Realistically though most of my team is geo so I'll probably try to fit her in and see if she stacks well.
If you have no use for Bennett other than a Yoimiya team, what's the point of using Yun Jin instead? She locks Yoi mono pyro, while Bennett allows for vape comps.
You can even use 4 peice archaic petra to increase your dps damage even more when you pick up the elemental shards from crystalized reactions.
why comparing lv 80 bennette with lv 90 yunjin? seems bias
I just wish that I got more constellations. 90 pulls and only 1 Yunjin. Another patch that rngesus doesn't bless me.
im happy with Yun Jin got her for free from the event as im broke from Ganyu i might not be able to get Zongli for my Ning team so Yun Jin will be a fine sub till Zongli gets another rerun well see if i do get lucky till his banner goes away
YunJin is cool but she's Niche.
Normal attacks are not something you need to buff universally.
great video, but you should showcase their damage without bennet & yun jin to see how much they increase the damage without them
I have c4 Bennet. I am confused between xinqui or yunjun I don't have both I building team. For diluc
Wait,
Alley Flash is good on Bennett? When was this?!
the base atk is higher than all 4* and 5* swords *except* aquila and mistsplitter
@AsianGuyStream just gave you a shout-out in his latest video!💓
Do you have childe? I wanna see yunjin's dmg boost on him compared to bennet. Pretty please
i have yunjin at c6
she is a bomb
totally rocking
I didn't know alley flash has that high base attack on 90.... well... time to improve my benneth.
for so long keqing optimal playstyle is with charged attacks. With Yunjin can her auto does enough damage that she can no longer have stamina issues?
Attacks with lower multipliers get more benefit so it could help her a lot.
Lets not forget the other benefits of bennett.
Heal, cleanse, cheap ult and pyro element.
I dont find these two comparable tbh.