I Was VERY Wrong About Squale Watches... I Feel Like An Idiot. [Squale Corso Italiano Review]
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For reasons I have struggled to grasp, Squale have engendered very different opinions among watch fans. Personally, I have own a Squale 2002 from the mid-2010s and for many years and it has been a fantastic workhorse watch that can bare obscene levels of physcal misuse (the cusion case design does much to disguise the absolutely tank like construction of the watch) without the slighest complaint as well as being extraordinarly accurate as delivered from the factory. I believe I paid about £500 secondhand for it when I purchased it in 2018 and, among the 50 or so watches I own, I consider it among my best purchases.
Sick A-10 BRRRRRRT Action @8:01 🤤
I was looking for a GMT watch, with a pepsi bezel (and of course I was not going to buy a Rolex). Then I saw the Squale GMT 30 ATMOS. After learning about the brand, I bought it, and I'm just amazed with the quality of the watch, the bracelet and the clasp.
Perfect size and affordable price.
Those two Squales are beautiful. Would buy one of them easily!
I have the 1545 GMT with the black bezel. It has the SW330 movement & runs -3 sec/day. It’s a great watch!
@@chriscon8463 it's the same model. The only difference is the colour of the bezel. And with the jubilee bracelet, makes it perfect.
one thing to mention: The black dial comes with the wooden box and the white dial comes with the Squale leather pouch, which should explain the price discrepancy
I own the Squale Drass Galeazzi and it is my favourite dive watch, despite the lume being less than magnificent. My son has the Squale Montauk from Long Island Watch and, at $465, it has to be the bargain of the year. I enjoy the legacy and quirkiness of the double logo… and Squale is priced right in inflated Seiko territory. Apart from the Prospex Sumo, there is very little competition at the price. Thanks for the review, Jory.
The OG Starcraft ghost at 1:14 had me rolling. Thats a deep cut! It INSTANTLY brought me back... the panic of trying to find the red dot in my base! Great use, well done!
I too have the black one and am very pleased that I took a chance on buying it sight unseen. One thing that wasn't mentioned is the 20mm lug width. All of the other Squale Sub 39s have a 22mm lug width. I think that the 20mm lug width looks better with the 39mm case. Also you can specify what size strap will come on the black one. Very nice touch if you have a smaller size wrist. (Most stock straps are either too big or I end up using the last hole with a lot of tail left over on my 6.5" wrist). Whatawatches was super cool to deal with and as other shave alluded to, throw in a lot of nice goodies with the watch. That and the high end Horween leather band and hand made watch box helped me to justify the somewhat premium price that I paid for this watch. I also have a Squale 20 Atmos Militaire 1545 on a bracelet that is also a very nice watch for one third of the price. Big fan a the Squale brand!
I'd much rather have a Squale GMT for a fraction of the price. You get applied indices and the ghost actually does what it's supposed to do, rather than nothing at all.
Oh yes, Congratulations! I myself, own several Squale watches and even though they're not cheap. I can admit once I got the first one, I never felt the need to get something more expensive. Elite build quality, Great heritage, Quality and attention to detail, what's wrong with value anymore?
I have two Squales. They both are tanks. Couldn’t recommend them more.
@JackieMoon_LMS i just wish they put more effort in their lume (at least for their divers)
Wich ones do you have?
@@jmlaso I have the 1545 black and 1521 Blue. They are absolutely incredible and keep time +/- 3 a day and have never been serviced. Great value for a true dive watch.
These are some of the best diver dials i've seen. Vintage, moderate, elegant and informative. Only lacking (for me) is the date window, but i would easily ignore it in this case.
I love my squale. It's super comfortable to wear, and it dresses up or dresses down really easily. The bezel is absolutely a fingerprint magnet though.
I own the classic black dial Squale 1521 for several years and I'm always happy with it when I put it on wrist. Build quality is impressive, it feels like a very solid piece. In the past few years they came up with a few very nice new (actually old) designs. I like it!
I have heard so many good things about Squale. And I do agree that they look like really great watches. I personally would prefer one of their more modern dive options (Matic) over this vintage style.
I own the Squale" 5145 BLK CER GMT and it has been flawless. It's one of my favorite beaters and it does take a beating. I've gone swimming, diving, rock climbing, camping, and military obstacle courses and it's tough as nails. With all of the wear and tear it still looks pretty dammed great. Keeps perfect time.
I purchased the black one and it is very nice. I put it on the timegrapher and it was spot on. Jory forgot to mention the very nice Horween shell corovan leather strap on the black watch, which is very comfortable. These are expensive and may be the reason why the black watch is more expensive (the white watch comes with a fabric strap). As mentioned, the packaging is great and all sorts of goodies were included, such as a Burgeon tool to swap straps and some little bags with Korean coffee mix.
Good catch! He does that now and again but doesn’t take well to review deficiencies being pointed out, lol.
@@bondpit8750 Yeah, seems like he did not do his homework on this one. The limited edition is explainable because this is a collaboration between a small brick and mortar shop and Squale for an exclusive offering. How could they leave this open ended?
TGV loves Squale watches... that is more than enough to know that they are good. He is really good with his content.
That is enough to make me not buy one.
@@williamandseallie why is the urban gentry so controversial? I am genuinely curious. His videos are entertaining to say the least. I’m not a social media guy though, so my knowledge is just from watch reviews I’ve seen, and then comment sections
@@Not-a-bot222 I like him but he goes overboard with the gentleman stuff and he can come across as pretentious even though he pretends not to be. There is a feeling of he tries too hard sometimes. I have to say his constant talking up of Squale with the TGV brand completely puts me off ever buying one
@@limirl I don't know... i like him, and i really think that if humanity and people around were more like him the world would really be a better place.
I really do not get "snob" vibes from him, he reminds me a bit of phileas fogg or sherlock holmes novels gentleman, and i would love to see such care and class in the world today...
@@williamandseallie Great, Squale or TGV wouldn't want one of their classic timepieces on your wrist. Good riddance.
Glad you finally got a Squale to review - great video and spot on review. I have several Squales in the collection, including my favorite the 60th Anniversary Special Edition - this is the most vintage looking and true to the original Squale release from 1959. These Corso Italiano have many of the 1959 design elements and thus are a good alternative to the 60th Anniversary edition since there were only 150 of those produced. Excluding the 60th Anniversary edition, I generally have paid between $700-1,000 for my Squales and they are definitely in that value category as a really good choice.
Squale can do little wrong in my eyes 👀
I have the 1521 and it makes me smile every single time I wear it.
Glad you enjoyed these two great watches 👍
I have 2 of them. Best bang for the buck in my entire 50 watch collection.
Soo happy you included the A10 strafing run at the end :-) I remember seeing one of them (thank God, not strafing) flying over my neighbourhood as a kid in the 1980s. This was in rural England by the way, at the height of the first Cold War.
I have a Squale Sub39. Modern version of one their vintage classics. Looks much like these, I have it in black and it give off all the Blancpain vibes.
Squale is my favourite watch brand at the moment. I’m saving for a Matic in blue. Love the artic version as I don’t like fake patina but that’s just me.
The trouble with limited editions they are a few hundred more than current models and are mostly for collectors trying to make a fast buck in the near future
Great video. I’ve become a fan of Squale recently. I think their quality matches their price point. I also like this watch but won’t purchase it because it does not have a date complication. That’s one of my big deal breakers. But they make several other watches that would work for me.
Last year I tried many Squale on wrist at a Watch fair here in Italy and talked with their Marketing Manager. I was really impressed on how well they sit on wrist and the very nice finishings so I decided to buy a classic 1521 and the Sub39 could be a future candidate for my collection.
These look nice. Squale are an interesting brand with a long history. I have a Squale Drass Galeazzi (great watch built like a panzer tank) which uses the SW200 movement like all their collections. From what I can see the Corso is exclusive to Whatawatches under their collaboration with Squale and unusual as they use the ETA movement. These seem to be priced a bit above what Squale usually sell their sub39 watches for.
I have a 1545 “Smurf blue” edition from Squale and it had two major issues that was sent back twice to Gnomon before it was 💯 repaired. Now it works perfectly and no complaints. The bezel is ultra smooth. One of the best in my collection
Can you give me an idea about what the issue was? Thanks!
I think the world is in need for a in-depth review of the CASIO F-91W-1DG by the time beard.
Good looking watch, hurrah for no date 👏🏻 Price seems about right too.
Would be interested if I didn't already have the retro diver category well covered (Willard & sm300)
Cheers mate 👍🏻👍🏻
I have the vintage 39mm GMT , and it was my first Squale and first GMT , wasnt sure about getting it a first but i really enjoy wearing it now, the leather strap is the best ive come across, size a fit is great, not sure about the bezel K1 Glass/crystal but definitely a smudge magnet, just nice to have GMT that isnt a Rolex homage.
Paused the video. This is already the best video of 2022 because of that A-10 strafing run. My favorite military plane ever.
I would take one of these Squales over a Zodiac nowadays, especially since genuine ETA movements in currently produced non-Swatch Group products are becoming less common.
I love vintage style divers. Smaller sizes, vintage esthetic, domed crystals... I can however go without faux patina, brown, bronze and guilt colors. If it's not really old, don't try and make it look old!
I have one I got from Marc over at Long Island Watch that is 38mm and I paid $595.00. The finishing isn't as refined as these, but it is a great looking Squale with an SW-200. They also have similar ones to these that aren't limited edition that run around $1200 to $1300. Worth a look!
Squale at the circa 1k mark is a fantastic dive watch brand. My first automatic was the 1521 which is possibly my favourite case. I prefer the more modern poppy sports divers than these. I've also bought the green 1521 but yet to see it in the flesh.
Have a Squale GMT. 40mm black ceramic bezel, fauxtina, Sellita movement, strap monster. Love it. For 800 bucks it’s a steal.
Great episode as per usual 👍🏴
Nice video, thanks! Just curious: have you ever checked out a Squale 1545? Similar retro vibe and specs, but (1) without smudgy bezel insert; (2) with visible and working date ; (3) not a limited edition; (4) a price tag c. 40% below the ones you reviewed. As a bit of an outlier among my otherwise '30s to '70s vintage stuff, I really like it for practical purposes.
1:37 is that a misaligned bezel on the Blancpain? Maybe, maybe not. I guess not really a big deal but gives a better value proposition for more budget-friendly options that get the bezel right. Squale has been piquing my interest for a while, especially the black dial GMT w/ the jubilee bracelet.
Squale watches are Very Cool and Great Quality ..I have 2 in my collection ...an Onda and a GMT ...Love them both..!!!
Glad you finally recognized and reviewed some...!!!
I own the black dial version of the sub39 corso italiano, and I don’t disagree with the comments in the video for the most part. Two cons not mentioned are that the lume isn’t spectacular with the faux patina, and the crown is slightly more difficult to screw in/out since the lip of the bezel overhangs the case a tad. Cracking watch though, and I’m more than comfortable with a ghost date crown position because mine literally keeps better time than the COSC certified diver in my collection. Also this watch really needs some content out in sunlight. The warm dial looks great under the soft white of a desk lamp, but the contrast with the shiny hands and bezel really pops outdoors. Just my opinion but I think this is the most faithful version to the Blancpain references Squale helped to make back in the day as well. One other thing I don’t think was mentioned in the review - these models have 20mm lug widths which is different from the non-limited models Squale sells on their website. Totally personal preference, but 20mm is the most ideal lug width if you ask me. Thanks for the vid T3!
Nice background shot Jory, beats that shower curtain in front of the window every time. Good video but I Just can't pull the trigger on a Squale.
I have a 1521 and it's been absolutely rock solid I put it on a staib mesh bracelet and it's one of my favorite summer watches.
I would love to have a Squale, especially a vintage one, but i have a tiny wrist and it’s hard to find anything 38mm or below. I’m about to buy a Tudor Mini Sub because that’s one of the few options for a diver, vintage or vintage looking, which suits my small wrist.
I've been looking at some Squale GMT watches, the prices aren't bad in the second hand market, and they look pretty nice, especially with the Pepsi bezel.
Nice video. A follow up might be appropriate since Long Island Watch just launched a new Squale Montauk model that is really similar (a little less retro though), and retails for 1/3 of the price.
Squale’s are fantastic. Beautiful and extremely well made with a great heritage. Don’t know or care why they get hated. I love my 60Atmos, I think it’s one of the best looking divers ever.
@Nigel Molesworth autocorrect
I own 2. One is the squalematic; It isnt perfect, however its gorgeous, functions well, and works with any occasion. One of, if not the most favored watch in my collection. I also own a Gnomon special edition 1521.. Simply stunning.
Gnomon from Singapor?
I had a Squale for several years, and I have to say I was very happy with it, but I had to sell it so I can upgrade to a better watch. I got The Fortis Marienmaster B-42 and I never regretted it.
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Squale GMT here. Love it. Absolute strap monster. Will be buying more.
The Time Teller is in a jovial mood for this one. Nice review! I’ve been on the fence about Squale for a long time. I just can’t bring myself to pull the trigger. For the price point on this one, given the competition’s choices, I’ll pass. For a bit more, an Oris 65 maybe?
actually you can get the Oris 65 new for the same price from trusted grey market dealers, that's why these squale price points dont make sense to me
That white dial one looks crispy 👌 video had me rolling dude 😄
I love the vintage look of this watch and kinda wish the Omega Seamaster 300 heritage would make their bezels more like these. Downside is I don’t think I’ve seen one of these with a bracelet available. That’s one reason I love divers is the unique style of divers that seem to look better on bracelets than other types of watches do
I live in Indonesia and I didn't mind going abroad to Singapore just to buy a Squale watch. I hope it could sums up my love to Squale watches. :)
These are great watches, I’ve got one in my sights after I push for an Omega Seamaster. However, these vintage style Squale’s are sooo appealing
Own a Sub39-MON and it is very nice vintage looking diver. That opened me up to the brand and a month later I bought a 20 ATMOS Black Ceramic - 1545 - SEL Bracelet (a Rolex Submariner Homage but w/ Squale hands and a dome crystal).
So a budget BlancPain Fifty Fathoms and budget Rolex Submariner.
I've got a fifty fathoms homage (1952 Barracuda) the bezel is the same. I don't mind faux patina on the occasional piece. I like the black dial Squale
Reminds me of those Captain Cooks?!, was it Zelos?,cant remember, but that sloped in bezel,?,lovely.
Cracking up in the first few seconds. Bravo. Also, I’ve been curious about Squale for years.
I have or I think I still have a squale gmt, it’s currently with Italian customs on route to squale for repair. It lasted 3 months, only 20ish hours of wrist time, the gmt hand came loose hit an hour marker and bent.
If you live in the uk like me don’t buy a squale from the US.
Still I’m hoping to get it back one day as it’s a stunning watch.
I thought this watch would be around between $700-800 😱. A totally different watch but At 1.499 l'd pick without any doubt the Hamilton intramatic chronograph instead.
Speaking of one good alternative of this kinda vintage diver style watch it has to be the Certina DS PH200. Awesome watch and half of the price. 🔥
Yeah, they both look great. I like the vintage look, watches and the faux patina, but I really like white dials. I got to say, that's the one. Gorgeous 💞
I enjoyed watching a Squale review that wasn’t TGV! Nice to see more people talking about the brand.
The dark black dial one is a classic Must Have. I have the TGV edition indigo/Prussian Blue color dial version 100 made - great piece - everything else is the same.
It’s been years since I’ve been watching your ‘watching’. Maybe because it makes me want to spend too much $$ too. But I just happened to happen upon this. Good vibes reminded of, they are.
Hmm tough to know what to think of this one. It is very attractive and I also have a weakness for vintage divers, but is it as good as an Oris Divers 65 or a Rado Captain Cook? It is going for pretty similar money, so I would expect it to compare reasonably well. Not to mention, I imagine there are hefty import taxes and duty charges on these.
check out the super squale explorer on beads of rice bracelet
Happy owner of a Squale Giramondo (GMT). Yeah, it's a "poor mans GMT-II" yet it gets the job done just fine, has tolerable accuracy and is good for "everything". 300M and a unidirectional bezel. With no Mercedes hands nor ugly cyclops, I'm less likely to be mugged for my watch too. So I kinda like it. At the time it was under $800.
It looks like a nice watch, but that ghost date is a dealbreaker for me. Putting a movement in your watch that the dial doesn't support shows a lack of care. Especially for $1500 - $1600.
Agreed. Why have a date complication if it's not being utilized? I don't get it.
The only thing I can think is that ETA movements are becoming more difficult to get, especially if you're not part of the Swatch group. Maybe it was take the movement or find something else, somewhere else!
@@patrickmurphy8222 Cheaper to buy in bulk.
@@JeeGee114 Oh, ok. I didn't think of it that way.
Nice looking but in my opinion the Mido Ocean Star Tribute is a better vintage diver with a amazing bracelet for less money.
I have the prototypical polished Squale 1521 in blue and love it. Great watch in every way.
I have that 1521 Blue with the blasted case. LOVE IT. Great watch!
They are decent watches , the two I have gotten as part of trade deals both told time well but both kind of have wonky crowns. I'd buy one resale & obviously take them in trades currently dont have one but these are neat looking.
I own the TGV version of this watch with a blue face/circle sub-indices, TGV initials under the Squale crown at noon and 22mm lugs. I'm thinking of selling it because 1) it's hard to wind with the coned crown (plus the fact that 2824 are generally stiff to wind), 2) the bezel has a little overhang increasing diameter to 40.6mm from 39mm and 3) I prefer 20mm lugs. I'll also add that the case back is pretty weak as it's only sand blasted and doesn't even list the movement. That said, the watch does get worn in my eight watch collection. Plus, the case (including the coned crown) and case sides look great and much better than the slab sides on say the Tudor BB (much more expensive) or Island Watch Montak Squale (half the price).
4th: it has the TGV initials
The TGV initials doesn't bother me at all. I think TGV deserves credit for raising the bar on RUclips watch videos and so many hours of entertaining and interesting videos.
@@bobsinca he does but I just don’t like the TGV initials on it. It doesn’t serve any horological value or purpose to the watch.
Neither has he contributed anything to watches other than reviewing watches. At least the sea master had a popular film reference to the watch. TGV at most only reached a couple millions people.
So the TGV initials is really a annoyance to see on the dial. Imagine someone asking you,
X: Hey, what’s TGV on the face of your watch?
Y: Oh, he is a watch reviewer on RUclips
X: wow! he must be famous with millions of subscribers?
Y: erm, just shy of half a million sub
X: oh, cool.
i bought the 1521 fumoso and it is the coolest summer watch on an orange rubber strap. Lume is average tough to use the crown but the looks are the best ive ever owned or seen. Pure italian.
I might buy the Rado captain cook 37mm just because i have xs wrist.
Just got a 2020 (ETA movement) Squale 1521 Millitare blasted version off of Ebay for 650 USD. I like it a lot - very comfortable to wear.
Love Squale. They have a great history and are affordable but not cheap…also, no waitlist
the woodworking anecdote killed me 🤣
I own the SUB 39MON with the numeric dial. I love it. I think i paid $1200 on long Island watches so they are definitely uncharging for the limited run aspect.
Your name is Jory and my name is Jordy. I also have a similar mustache. Let that sink in. Btw I love your videos and I’m glad you make them.
TGV love squale's. He have a special editon with his name on. It's beautiful
I have a Squale and I love it. It's not in the same price category as these two. They do have more affordable options.
Bought the Sub39 blue and it really is a beautiful watch in person. Worth every penny
I've no issue with a ghost position on a sub $1000 as it's normally a sensible cost saving move by a microbrand. But no way on a watch over $1000, for that I'm expecting my money's worth
Bought one Squale, now own 2. For some reason this watch brand just feels awesome on the wrist. It feels heavy (which I like), the lines and contours are smooth and clean. I own about 12 watches, my Squale are the cheapest yet I wear them the most.
I had a Sub39-model and liked it. But the ones coming from Squale have 22mm lugs, and I think whata whatches made it 20mm and it looks way better. Agree on the cons with the crown, it didnt feel right setting the time, always felt like something was broken. And the lume isnt good enough for a brand with this kind of history in dive watches.
But a beautiful watch with the case beeing star of the show :D
First time I've heard about those timekeepers. Quite nice, thanks for that
I have the 20 Atmos 1545 Root Beer.
(Yes, a 40mm Submariner homage)
I really like this piece.
I have a 1521 and a 1545. Love them both. The 1521 is my favorite of the two.
In fairness most of Squales range is sub $1000. These limited editions are made for and sold exclusively by Whatawatches in Korea, who has set the price. Given the recent run of these limited edition vintage inspirations, ir begs the question why (when?) Squale itself doesnt release its own line of vintage inspred designs. I own a 1521 Squale LE scuba from gnomon ($820) couldnt be happier with build quality ++
I really really like the looks of the black dial. I may pick one up.
Glad you are all better now! Stay safe
Now... I like quirky and watches with a twist.
But... what I can't deal with is that assymetrical dial application or in this case logo (Doxa watches & Christopher Ward C60 Sapphire, same story)
Otherwise... that white dial one sure seems like a winner.
But at that price for a single watch as well... I'd rather have me a couple of microbrands instead tbh. I just got my Nodus Sector Pilot Phantom in today...
I own a 2018 Squale 1521 50 Atmos "Ocean Blasted" and paid $600 for it, used. It's most likely a keeper 'cause there's no other watch with such an amazing blue/blue presence anywhere close to that price point. Nearest relative would be a blue Tudor Pelagos, but even used those cost about 3 times as much.
I personally would not spend $1,4K on a Squale, as for that kind of money, I have plenty of other options.
Nice take on Squale. I always wanted a squale matic.
I would rock that watch anytime. Love the black one. Price does seem high though
Love my Squale 30 Atmos Marina Blue! Favorite watch in fact!
Squale has a special place among dive watch enthusiasts. Easy to like and very affordable too.
Had a Squale and then sold it. Don’t really get the obsession with them. I then purchased an Islander to replace that spot in my collection and wear that when I wanna wear a diver.
I have a 1545 Ferrovia and love the watch, however the bracelet not so much. It’s ok, but end links rattle and the clasp is so-so, with a friction closure.
I am in love with the black one but if I am going to spend that much ... I'll go higher and get a previous owned Tudor/Rolex ...but it is still a great watch
Tudor have some serious build quality control issues. Be careful
Love squale, hate the support. On my 3rd attempt to get a replacement bezel. :[