It’s no secret that COD benefits from higher single thread performance, which Intel clearly has had the lead on for quite some time. Considering that the 14900k costs $200 more, I purchased a 7800X3D because I rarely use productivity software and I use my computer mainly for games. The 7800X3D may not be the absolute no-holds-barred best consumer-grade CPU on the market today, but it sure as hell packs a huge punch for gamers like me.
AMD is garbage, and I want every amd fanboy to give me 1 reason why it isn’t right here, and make sure you watch the video at 0.75x while you’re typing out the comment
Appreciate your work. I have made my self a "poor little Timmy build" like you have shown and it's just Amazing. Thanks a lot and keep UP the good work.
How is spending less than half the price (factoring the much cheaper memory spec) for indiscernible FPS difference at a third of the CPU power a scam...? Why don't any recent reviews show lower lows on average?
Swapped to 7800x3d from a 13700k and after 3 days I switched back. The dips and general sluggishness of the 7800x3d is somehow never talked about by many.
@@mitsuhhmy ass 7700k 4c8t thread running circles on the 8c16t 1800x with 40% more ipc fuken tech tubers washed your brain just like all the other sheep who believed them back then and got scammed 😂😂😂😂
Running a 4090 with 5800x3d + bdie 3800mhz CL14 plugged into C9 (4K@120hz) and I agree for no real need to upgrade. Games RT would need to get a lot more demanding and ARL would need to be a massive leap to make me upgrade tbh.
@@ZackSNetwork hes playing at 4k, the difference would be 5-10fps at most depending on the game and thats with the best gaming cpus available, and its bottleneck not bottom neck. It really wouldnt matter much if he had a 7800x 3d or 14900k
For me a big factor was the longevity of the platform. My previous PC was a 9900k which at the time was the best gaming CPU. Had I instead purchased Ryzen I could have upgraded to a 5800X3D which had better performance than the 9900k. The same will likely be true with the 7800X3D vs. the 14900k. There is no upgrade path for the 14900k, but there is with the 7800X3D.
good point. Power draw between them is a plus for AMD. And also not having to buy a super expensive 2 dimm MB to get that 8000 sweetness. But sure Intel is faster.
This is for sure good info, BUT my man.. you gotta remember the price increase + power draw on the intel system. If money and heat is no issue then sure intel is still king. I definitely wouldn't shit on AMD just because it has 10-15% less performance in 1% lows. Not to mention you buy into a dead platform. Then again if you have infinite money, this still doesn't matter.
They both have their pros and cons. I don't even play Cod anymore so this doesn't pertain to me anyway. He should do some benchmarks on Unreal Engine 5 games with the 13900K / 14900K vs Amd Equivalents. A lot of UE5 games have major issues with 13900k / 14900k cpus. You will see people getting Crashes upon just launching the game, or "out of memory error" or when the game is building the shaders. It is more common than people think. The "fix" is to downclock the cpu / lower the multiplier. On some UE5 games the Ecores on the 13900K / 14900k are causing random performance issues and the "fix" is to disable the ecores or use process lasso. For every game you find an issue with Amd cpu's, the Intel's have the same if not more.
It's cod. Cod doesn't care about vcache and it's not using cpu properly on any cpu. It's bad cpu optimization that's why it's not using the whole gpu. I have the same issues playing diablo iv. Both games are blizz/Activision and are the only 2 games that share the same issues my pc gets. I'd like to see jufes compare cpu that are priced the same and not a 24 core 600+ dollar cpu vs an 8 core 400 dollar cpu
He doesn’t show it on any videos, he just says “look AMDip! I swear!!” And his brain dead fanboys believe him. Just like he doesn’t show the games that Intel has absolutely awful performance in because it’s inconvenient for his business, which is upcharging “binned” Intel garbage that needs hours of tuning to beat a 7800X3D.
Comparing 50 watts VS 300 watts making any sense? My 7800x3D doing more or less the same than Intel, but for usually +/- 50 watts: fine then I don't give a shit about the 1% lows Do people realize that 300 watts is a GPU category, not a CPU one? Do you? Are you happy having a second GPU? Have FUN people with your double-GPU systems you are doing GREAT! SPOILER: in 2025 Intel will keep the lead and do 5% better than AMD. For 400 watts. Will suit so greatly your RTX 6090 @955 watts. Thumbs up....
As a person who likes amd and had intel and amd cpus i can say i respect jufes opinion because i always wanted to see someone doing max performance on this cpus or for the gpus. For hardcore amd guys sure it will be a hearth break, but for me neh i play old games and some online games which dont have esports, and i also write plugins and scripts for an old game.
why is the image quality between both different? The Intel image looks washed out. Also, make sure AMD infinity fabric is no higher than 2000 as it has been shown to cause the "AMDip"
I have to say I switched from 14700F to 7800x3d and I'm loving it. I benchmarked and get better lows then I did on the 14700F. I will post a video showing soon.
Micro Center has the 14900K with a Z790 Tomahawk and 32 GB of G skill 6000 MHZ ram for 700 bucks. That is a monster deal along with a 7800X3d bundle for 500 bucks.
When they mention efficiency I ask them what gpu are they running. If it isn't nvidia then the efficiency is just an excuse they like to use all too often. Nobody gives a shit about efficiency. An Intel cpu pulls pretty much the same power as a amd while gaming. It's a moot point and perf is what really matters. If they love efficiency then ask if they have an nvidia gpu. If not they don't care about efficiency. Simply a bunch of clowns looking for excuses as to why they bought what they did. I care about the best perf and nothing else. Whoever gives me that is what I'm buying.
@@DavinmkThe I9 14900k does not push 300watts of power. Yes it draws more power because it is a 24 core processor. The 7800x3d is a 8 core 16 SMT CPU. However the 7800x3d runs way hotter than the i9 because of the infinite cache.
@@ZackSNetwork Not 300w while playing a game, yeah, but make a 14900k render and it will draw 300 watts. Especially max overclock which is specifically what this channel tests. You're always telling half truths
If you want to be in the top 1% AND you dont care about price or power usage, this is your channel I dont care about being in the 1% because gaming is a casual hobby. I also think he believes he is better then others and is an ass about it To each thier own! He has EVERY right to do whatever the hell he wants with his RUclips Sub or dont sub, it doesnt matter I used a 13700k and went to a 7800x3d and am very happy. Im not a fanboy. I liked both chips. Really cant see the diffetwnce honesty while gaming so w/e Do what you want with your money 👍
Great Work. Does this happen if you use an AMD CPU + GPU not nvidia gpu + and cpu like in this video with this game. and do the mouse move near Buildings?
Cant trust your videos. Screenshot got posted on fb with someone calling u out on this exact video about having two completely different setting on both cpus. Which would actually give u the results your getting. Then u deleted the comment 😂😂
If you don't want to compromise, then Intel is the way to go. But, you have to fiddle with the BIOS. If you want price to performance of the platform, then the 7800X3D is for you. You have to fiddle very little in the BIOS. Good video, keep up the good work.
For me it was the longevity of the platform. My previous PC was a 9900k which at the time was the best gaming CPU. Had I instead purchased Ryzen I could have upgraded to a 5800X3D which had better performance than the 9900k. The same will likely be true with the 7800X3D vs. the 14900k. There is no upgrade path for the 14900k, but there is with the 7800X3D.
@@BurkeSchneider The longevity of the AM5 platform is the icing on the cake. If Intel do not extend the longevity of the platform to minimum 4 years, it will continue to lose market share to AMD.
@@Adel-sj4ue Dont have to be a professional to be a enthusiast that wants things to run smooth. Most people could care less about power consumption and half the heat is a joke. If you are tying the power draw diff to a heat diff then you are mistaken my man. You must have forgotten how hot the 5800x would bake over any intel while pulling half to a third of the watts lol. If you are worried about power consumption and all of that good stuff then this might not be the channel for you. This is about the best of the best. Nothing else. There is a reason EVERY streamer as well as EVERY PRO or competitive player run intel and nvidia. No stutters, no frame drops, it just works. They can just jump in and run without worrying about another chipset driver or something lol.
@@corybrakebill7325 It's more so intel's marketing that leads most competitive players to run intel/nvidia. They have a higher market share, their hardware is found in more prebuilts more often, those competitive players receive PCs through sponsorships.
Hard to justify any Intel cpu when you look at power efficiency and the fact anyone close enough to a Microcenter can get a 7800x3d for $240 as part of an AM5 upgrade bundle...
Your channel is my favorite hardware channel, love your journalistic integrity, way to go. Not a gamer, yet played with great fun The Riftbreaker, please consider adding this candy to your list.
In my case for running everything in a Mini-ITX computer case, it doesn't help to have better '1% lows' with the 14900K over the 7800X3D when the 14900K needs a nuclear reactor to power the damn thing and need a CPU cooler in the size of an iceberg to cool the 14900K properly while the 7800X3D can be run and cooled way easier. How much 'watt' did your overclocked 13900K use in this video? If you do use a computer case in the size of a wardrobe, then sure, the 14900K will probably be all fine and be the best to use.
Intel is always faster and smoother in 1% lows when max tuned, but maybe it's worth mentioning that Ryzen isn't that much worse, especially in non competitive and single player, casual gaming, and with weaker gpus... Not all gamers are rich and competitive, but anyway thanks to all supporters and Jufes for showing us real truth and difference,...
The same test with 7900xtx would be great, to see if SAM does anything to the lows. I’d love to move to intel tbh for my next CPU, but I just can’t justify the CPU eating almost the same power as my GPU. Will have to wait for Intels new chips, to see whether they can get the power draw down to the same or close to the same numbers as ryzen.
I used to think the same, until I got and tuned a 13700K and it used less power and cooled easier than my old Tuned 5900X. Stop looking at cinebench and uncapped frames with a 4090 as indicative of power draw for all scenarios. I've never gone beyond 110W CPU gaming load doing 165HZ gaming at 1440p with my 7900XTX. A basic ass 240mm Thermalrite cooler and an AK620 keeps it sub 65C during gaming. If you don't care about emulation, or maximizing software compatability, just go for value or to meet your needs though.
@@Greez1337 the thing is, I bought a 12900KS few years ago, and returned it. It was using close to 200w on a game like cyberpunk. Like obviously, it’s not going to be like that on every game, but there’s some games that can genuinely push the Intel CPU’s to 200w
7800X3D uses 66W, ho much does the i9 needs ? 250W ?? That's 4 times more frames per watt ^^ And really 20fps less on 200 in lowest 1% is just irrelevant
@fefsefefesfsefsef2733 the whole point is that a 24 core chip at twice the cost is being compared to a chip with 1/3rd of the cores and 1/2 of the price on a game that specifically doesn't care about vcache (and idk if you've seen but cod is dead) "Faster is faster" yeah well I hope it would be at twice the cost
@@bgeezus3955 well the whole point is that faster is faster. You can put the 7950x3d into that comparison if the price parity makes you happier, but the results will not change.
Love you're channel! watching you for years, but my first amd chip always had Intel now have a 7800x3d. but my fps 1% lows in ground war are 200/220 ultra settings of the game. Average above 300. So I don't think this testing or you're cpu is right this time. Try the benchmark it's also showing cpu fps 1% lows average and max.
@@samledger9599no but I can lower resolution to 1080p or lower with my 4090, so you can fully use you're cpu to get the gpu bottle neck out. And I'm getting above 300 fps on ground war. And above 200 fps on the 1% lows?
Just found your channel and jeez it’s refreshing… everything you have said about and has been my life for the past few years. 5800x to 5950x to 5800x3d everything has been shit for some reason. Looks like Black Friday here we go 14700k. Or 14900k if there is a good deal
from what i see on various benchmarks out there the 3D cache works good on 1080p, it loses a lot on 2k and 4k and i don't think normal people buying xtx or the 4090 just to play 1080p in year 23 lol
That’s bullshit who told you that lie 7800x3D gets 20-40 more fps at 1440p over 13900k I get more fps then frame chasers watch a guy called beefy tech my build is similar to his
Plus you need 8000mhz of ram on intel to even compete with someone who has a way cheaper 6000mhz 7800x3D build imagine spending thousands of dollars to get lower fps then a normal 7800x3D build 😢
Incorrect, I captured the Intel system with an elgato 4:2:2 capture, and the AMD was captured with Avermedia 4:4:4 livegamer Bolt. Not everything is a conspiracy theory boys
@@isfcert2843 this is why responding to comments is meaningless, your going to believe what you believe, it means nothing to me at the end of the day. Wish you the best
@@isfcert2843 Interesting how he decided to just say responding is meaningless, then to actually refute what you typed. You are probably on to something.
My potato pc just laughers when these pro complain about there processors like for real I run into some you guys and roast the hell out of the team guest what the spec is
Definitely interesting. It’s def not worth an upgrade and platform change from AM5 quite yet, but cool to see that you’re pointing out what most reviewers aren’t talking about
The other reviewers aren't deliberately sabotaging AMD to perform worse. This clown once tried 6000mhz with a 110bclk and wonders why it wasn't stable. All his "COD bro" kids don't know any better, so he has to make AMD look bad so he can sell his "consults".
@@charlesred8986 100% this. Found your comment. Correct. This clown ALWAYS purposely sabotages his AMD setups just to make Intel win and to depict AMD in poor light. All this just to farm his consults. COD bros here need to wake up.
@@charlesred8986literally people are spending thousands on 8000mhz ram on intel just to get lower fps then a basic 7800x3D build with 6000mhz ram this guy is comedy 😂
If you want to reduce fps drops in Cod, turn off resize bar. Had fps drops down tp 150fps with resize bar on, if I turn it off, my fps lows are at 205fps in warzone and resurgence
Luv how he always puts the crown 👑 on amd. Have not even watched the vid yet... but I love the content. (I have a ryzen 5700g and 5800x byw :-) I am betting on intel.. Right time to start watching now..
Well yeah man.... 13900ks its just a plain better "all around" CPU and that's a FACT!!! But hear me out for a split second dude.... The price of that 7800x3d its just so much lower than the i9 of yours and DAAAAAMN!! how much power that sucker pulls from the wall?.... the 7800x3d its crazy efficient and thats why people likes these X3D cpus, just don't be crazy about it!!
who cares lol if you're poor couple thousands of dollars might bother you but if its like your weekly income why would you care about spending that much once a year or 2 years
It's cod. Cod doesn't care about vcache and it's not using cpu properly on any cpu. It's bad cpu optimization that's why it's not using the whole gpu. I have the same issues playing diablo iv. Both games are blizz/Activision and are the only 2 games that share the same issues my pc gets. I'd like to see jufes compare cpu that are priced the same and not a 24 core 600+ dollar cpu vs an 8 core 400 dollar cpu
It’s no secret that COD benefits from higher single thread performance, which Intel clearly has had the lead on for quite some time. Considering that the 14900k costs $200 more, I purchased a 7800X3D because I rarely use productivity software and I use my computer mainly for games. The 7800X3D may not be the absolute no-holds-barred best consumer-grade CPU on the market today, but it sure as hell packs a huge punch for gamers like me.
until you get amdips, see frame times, and look at 1% lows
you get what you pay for
@@OdinAlgeron Ok.
Don’t know what to tell ya except I’m happy with it.
I'm not seeing these dips in COD, did notice the massive server desyncs though.But that's just MW being paired with "quality" servers.
@@Shen3002 then you are not really looking for them
they are there though, too many proper benchmarkers see it
@@portman8909 its a good cpu, just not the best
AMD is garbage, and I want every amd fanboy to give me 1 reason why it isn’t right here, and make sure you watch the video at 0.75x while you’re typing out the comment
and again... nothing ever changes.
Appreciate your work. I have made my self a "poor little Timmy build" like you have shown and it's just Amazing. Thanks a lot and keep UP the good work.
what fps do you get
in the games you play?
Can you tell me your build,
12700k/2080 ti on a cheap asrock board with 32 GB of 7200 ram. Works well
Jufes at his prime my bros
Missing the cpu power draw
How is spending less than half the price (factoring the much cheaper memory spec) for indiscernible FPS difference at a third of the CPU power a scam...? Why don't any recent reviews show lower lows on average?
Swapped to 7800x3d from a 13700k and after 3 days I switched back. The dips and general sluggishness of the 7800x3d is somehow never talked about by many.
the 7800x3d can do 5200 mhz jufes, not sure if you know how to get it there.
More than that with Rog Gene's eclk.
The AMdip saves 120 watts! 🤣. Great review. Ty for all you do
if you are poor then care about your 120w but if you need top of the line performance it doesn't matter
I love stuttering in my games
I got scammed by AMD when 1800x came out $500 😂
$500 1800x was better than what Intel had
@@mitsuhhmy ass 7700k 4c8t thread running circles on the 8c16t 1800x with 40% more ipc fuken tech tubers washed your brain just like all the other sheep who believed them back then and got scammed 😂😂😂😂
was better than what Intel had@@zihechen3111
@@zihechen3111 Not really, but you keep telling yourself that.
They changed ihs thickness on the 14gen im sure
Ill just keep my 5800X3D, love it and feel like its going strong for years to come.
That is a great chip no reason to upgrade it yet.
Running a 4090 with 5800x3d + bdie 3800mhz CL14 plugged into C9 (4K@120hz) and I agree for no real need to upgrade. Games RT would need to get a lot more demanding and ARL would need to be a massive leap to make me upgrade tbh.
@@akdragonpc473That is definitely a CPU bottom neck. If you can afford a 4090 why are you such a cheapskate?
@@ZackSNetwork hes playing at 4k, the difference would be 5-10fps at most depending on the game and thats with the best gaming cpus available, and its bottleneck not bottom neck. It really wouldnt matter much if he had a 7800x 3d or 14900k
@@ZackSNetwork Why are you such a tech illiterate?
For me a big factor was the longevity of the platform. My previous PC was a 9900k which at the time was the best gaming CPU. Had I instead purchased Ryzen I could have upgraded to a 5800X3D which had better performance than the 9900k. The same will likely be true with the 7800X3D vs. the 14900k. There is no upgrade path for the 14900k, but there is with the 7800X3D.
good point. Power draw between them is a plus for AMD. And also not having to buy a super expensive 2 dimm MB to get that 8000 sweetness. But sure Intel is faster.
COPE.
yep zen5 or even zen6 3D will crush 14900K and all that with same AM5 socket.
Exactly, in a same boat as you with i9 9900k but gonna buy 7800x3d as upgrade.
This is for sure good info, BUT my man.. you gotta remember the price increase + power draw on the intel system. If money and heat is no issue then sure intel is still king. I definitely wouldn't shit on AMD just because it has 10-15% less performance in 1% lows. Not to mention you buy into a dead platform. Then again if you have infinite money, this still doesn't matter.
A little trolling never hurts :)
They both have their pros and cons. I don't even play Cod anymore so this doesn't pertain to me anyway. He should do some benchmarks on Unreal Engine 5 games with the 13900K / 14900K vs Amd Equivalents. A lot of UE5 games have major issues with 13900k / 14900k cpus. You will see people getting Crashes upon just launching the game, or "out of memory error" or when the game is building the shaders. It is more common than people think. The "fix" is to downclock the cpu / lower the multiplier. On some UE5 games the Ecores on the 13900K / 14900k are causing random performance issues and the "fix" is to disable the ecores or use process lasso. For every game you find an issue with Amd cpu's, the Intel's have the same if not more.
Price difference and wattage and support go with the 7800X3D. 14900K DOA on Launch DOA Socket.
fastest is the fastest if you only care about this buy intel everything else just buy 5800x3d or 7800x3d
damn DOA on launch? RIP in peace
Very interesting side by side comparison at 4:04
I really would like to see frame time graphs and not just 1% lows.
It's not even showing lows its just current and avg fps on screen.
It's cod. Cod doesn't care about vcache and it's not using cpu properly on any cpu. It's bad cpu optimization that's why it's not using the whole gpu. I have the same issues playing diablo iv. Both games are blizz/Activision and are the only 2 games that share the same issues my pc gets.
I'd like to see jufes compare cpu that are priced the same and not a 24 core 600+ dollar cpu vs an 8 core 400 dollar cpu
He doesn’t show it on any videos, he just says “look AMDip! I swear!!” And his brain dead fanboys believe him. Just like he doesn’t show the games that Intel has absolutely awful performance in because it’s inconvenient for his business, which is upcharging “binned” Intel garbage that needs hours of tuning to beat a 7800X3D.
Comparing 50 watts VS 300 watts making any sense?
My 7800x3D doing more or less the same than Intel, but for usually +/- 50 watts: fine then I don't give a shit about the 1% lows
Do people realize that 300 watts is a GPU category, not a CPU one? Do you?
Are you happy having a second GPU?
Have FUN people with your double-GPU systems you are doing GREAT!
SPOILER: in 2025 Intel will keep the lead and do 5% better than AMD. For 400 watts. Will suit so greatly your RTX 6090 @955 watts. Thumbs up....
The AMDip fan boys hate this channel 😂😂😂😂😂 keep up the great work
As a person who likes amd and had intel and amd cpus i can say i respect jufes opinion because i always wanted to see someone doing max performance on this cpus or for the gpus. For hardcore amd guys sure it will be a hearth break, but for me neh i play old games and some online games which dont have esports, and i also write plugins and scripts for an old game.
why is the image quality between both different? The Intel image looks washed out. Also, make sure AMD infinity fabric is no higher than 2000 as it has been shown to cause the "AMDip"
any tests? or source of this?
Graphics washed out or not its a cpu test not gpu
Source?
imagine thinking the CPU has anything to do with image quality.
I mean it kind of does have a lot to do with image quality@@gozutheDJ
I have to say I switched from 14700F to 7800x3d and I'm loving it. I benchmarked and get better lows then I did on the 14700F. I will post a video showing soon.
This needs a revisit now since ddr5 8000 works on AMD
Really? Which motherboard?
meaningless the cache on amd cpu makes the ram useless until maybe 10,000 mhz hits. 6400mhz is faster at 1 to 1 ratio
One of the biggest CS2 tournaments in the world has completely switched over to AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D chips 'to ensure a smooth esports experience'
Why there is no W consumption of the 14900k CPU showed on those tests?
Because it's a max oc comparison. Who tf watches their power consumption when overclocking the shit out of their cpu 😂
@@itsArtNotAcr1meAMD users don’t know what overclocking is 😂
Micro Center has the 14900K with a Z790 Tomahawk and 32 GB of G skill 6000 MHZ ram for 700 bucks. That is a monster deal along with a 7800X3d bundle for 500 bucks.
I just got the 7800X3d for 300 i wonder if that was a good deal
@@Playerz714that’s a steal
@@Playerz7147800x3D beats 14900k on cod you made the right purchase
Appreciate the on time and honest benchmarks Jufes.
Keep up the good work ❤️
7800x3d vs 13600k max oc in games ?
This is what I wanna see.
Thanks a lot for this!
Please do a CS2 benchmark too if you can :)
The game need to be finished first
CPU wattage missing from Intel side, would have been interesting to add that factor in to this comparison.
Jufes is raw performance only he does not care about wattage
@@brianlukas2868 I am aware, just pointing out the 7800x3d wattage is there and is missing from the 13900ks side. A simple fact.
@@DavinmkIt’s a 24 core CPU with 16 Threads and over clocks significantly higher than the 7800x3d.
Who cares when the alternative is a stuttery game!?
@@laz7354 I am actually surprised how much this observation is getting under peoples skins, lol.
Lol when are amd fanboys going to realize cod bros don’t care about power efficiency, heat or price. You guys keep coming to the wrong channel.
When they mention efficiency I ask them what gpu are they running. If it isn't nvidia then the efficiency is just an excuse they like to use all too often. Nobody gives a shit about efficiency. An Intel cpu pulls pretty much the same power as a amd while gaming. It's a moot point and perf is what really matters. If they love efficiency then ask if they have an nvidia gpu. If not they don't care about efficiency. Simply a bunch of clowns looking for excuses as to why they bought what they did. I care about the best perf and nothing else. Whoever gives me that is what I'm buying.
Weren’t all the Intel ass crack lickers back in the day, always talking about heat issues and efficiency… 😅
@@DavinmkThe I9 14900k does not push 300watts of power. Yes it draws more power because it is a 24 core processor. The 7800x3d is a 8 core 16 SMT CPU. However the 7800x3d runs way hotter than the i9 because of the infinite cache.
@@ZackSNetwork Not 300w while playing a game, yeah, but make a 14900k render and it will draw 300 watts. Especially max overclock which is specifically what this channel tests. You're always telling half truths
Do you enjoy paying more for hardly any performance increase?
If you want to be in the top 1% AND you dont care about price or power usage, this is your channel
I dont care about being in the 1% because gaming is a casual hobby. I also think he believes he is better then others and is an ass about it
To each thier own! He has EVERY right to do whatever the hell he wants with his RUclips
Sub or dont sub, it doesnt matter
I used a 13700k and went to a 7800x3d and am very happy. Im not a fanboy. I liked both chips. Really cant see the diffetwnce honesty while gaming so w/e
Do what you want with your money 👍
Nothing ever changes…
Great Work. Does this happen if you use an AMD CPU + GPU not nvidia gpu + and cpu like in this video with this game. and do the mouse move near Buildings?
jay2cent said nothing ever changes in his last video lmao AAHHAHA
I love the ocean view boys. These are my favorite videos.
What is the powerdraw on the 14900k?
All of it.
Love the content , commenting for the algorithms
Cant trust your videos. Screenshot got posted on fb with someone calling u out on this exact video about having two completely different setting on both cpus. Which would actually give u the results your getting. Then u deleted the comment 😂😂
1% and 0.1%!
Could you do your best intel ring over clock, and CPU overclock with a regular AIO 360mm? Want to see what a casual user can achieve with overclocking
Don't be poor
@@C.r.i.m.s.o.nI’m not I delided my 14900K just last night, but going to put it in an aio. Don’t like custom cooling
Timmy Noooooooooooooo!! Ahh he got me ofc he did, I didnt have 8000Mhz DDR5, I love ur videos, thanks to ur supporters n discord 👍
Droppin in to drop a fat comment for a dropdead gorgeous dropkicking droplet of drops wtf am I even saying im not even high ily
If you don't want to compromise, then Intel is the way to go. But, you have to fiddle with the BIOS.
If you want price to performance of the platform, then the 7800X3D is for you. You have to fiddle very little in the BIOS.
Good video, keep up the good work.
For me it was the longevity of the platform. My previous PC was a 9900k which at the time was the best gaming CPU. Had I instead purchased Ryzen I could have upgraded to a 5800X3D which had better performance than the 9900k. The same will likely be true with the 7800X3D vs. the 14900k. There is no upgrade path for the 14900k, but there is with the 7800X3D.
@@BurkeSchneider The longevity of the AM5 platform is the icing on the cake.
If Intel do not extend the longevity of the platform to minimum 4 years, it will continue to lose market share to AMD.
@@BurkeSchneidercope.
@@Adel-sj4ue Dont have to be a professional to be a enthusiast that wants things to run smooth. Most people could care less about power consumption and half the heat is a joke. If you are tying the power draw diff to a heat diff then you are mistaken my man. You must have forgotten how hot the 5800x would bake over any intel while pulling half to a third of the watts lol. If you are worried about power consumption and all of that good stuff then this might not be the channel for you. This is about the best of the best. Nothing else. There is a reason EVERY streamer as well as EVERY PRO or competitive player run intel and nvidia. No stutters, no frame drops, it just works. They can just jump in and run without worrying about another chipset driver or something lol.
@@corybrakebill7325 It's more so intel's marketing that leads most competitive players to run intel/nvidia. They have a higher market share, their hardware is found in more prebuilts more often, those competitive players receive PCs through sponsorships.
14900k and 7800x3d have big price difference bruh
Hard to justify any Intel cpu when you look at power efficiency and the fact anyone close enough to a Microcenter can get a 7800x3d for $240 as part of an AM5 upgrade bundle...
Anyone know why I’ve got packet burst all the time? But good WiFi speees
Show us the lows
More red hammer intro pls
yea 20 fps less and 230 watts less. Next thing is the lga1700 is dead socket. Podro PcLab xD
Intel cpus just use way to much power.
Your channel is my favorite hardware channel, love your journalistic integrity, way to go.
Not a gamer, yet played with great fun The Riftbreaker, please consider adding this candy to your list.
Why didn't you go to Private Match and select benchmark?
You get much different results.
never going back to AMD, got my 14900k installed its night & day 1% lows are too good game feels like butter
In my case for running everything in a Mini-ITX computer case, it doesn't help to have better '1% lows' with the 14900K over the 7800X3D when the 14900K needs a nuclear reactor to power the damn thing and need a CPU cooler in the size of an iceberg to cool the 14900K properly while the 7800X3D can be run and cooled way easier.
How much 'watt' did your overclocked 13900K use in this video?
If you do use a computer case in the size of a wardrobe, then sure, the 14900K will probably be all fine and be the best to use.
Another tech ignoramus foaming from mouth
They`re basically the same CPU......So why anyone would spend an extra $150 on the intel is beyond me.
How much us the average extra cost after that 1000 bundle with encore?
Just add up the cost of the parts, usually around $2300. There are three people currently on the waitlist though I’m binning CPU’s as fast as I can
Intel is always faster and smoother in 1% lows when max tuned, but maybe it's worth mentioning that Ryzen isn't that much worse, especially in non competitive and single player, casual gaming, and with weaker gpus... Not all gamers are rich and competitive, but anyway thanks to all supporters and Jufes for showing us real truth and difference,...
The same test with 7900xtx would be great, to see if SAM does anything to the lows.
I’d love to move to intel tbh for my next CPU, but I just can’t justify the CPU eating almost the same power as my GPU. Will have to wait for Intels new chips, to see whether they can get the power draw down to the same or close to the same numbers as ryzen.
I used to think the same, until I got and tuned a 13700K and it used less power and cooled easier than my old Tuned 5900X. Stop looking at cinebench and uncapped frames with a 4090 as indicative of power draw for all scenarios. I've never gone beyond 110W CPU gaming load doing 165HZ gaming at 1440p with my 7900XTX. A basic ass 240mm Thermalrite cooler and an AK620 keeps it sub 65C during gaming.
If you don't care about emulation, or maximizing software compatability, just go for value or to meet your needs though.
Intel cpus do not use same power as your gpu in any real case use. That is just meme stuff from YT "reviewers" when they know it gets clicks.
dawg cinebench power draw has nothing to do with game power draw lmao
@@Greez1337 the thing is, I bought a 12900KS few years ago, and returned it. It was using close to 200w on a game like cyberpunk. Like obviously, it’s not going to be like that on every game, but there’s some games that can genuinely push the Intel CPU’s to 200w
@@Davinmk in what use case you get that? You play cinebench or prime95 all day.
I want to see a comparison between your tuned ram boards and non tuned!
lol discord going crazy in the video!
no music in my car or amd laptop
yeah nah im not fucking AMrounD on the road
How about zombies? I think that's the new WZ map
No charts? Sadeg
7800X3D uses 66W, ho much does the i9 needs ? 250W ?? That's 4 times more frames per watt ^^ And really 20fps less on 200 in lowest 1% is just irrelevant
you know the term fastest or you just dumb?
the little 7800x3d (400€) vs his freaking monster brother 14900k (799€) is sweating him 😓😓
That's what I'm saying! This ain't flagship to flagship comparison
@@bgeezus3955oh you think AMD has a better chip?
faster is faster no matter at wat cost if you are budget focus on your build instead of performance just buy amd turn on xmp and forget about it
@fefsefefesfsefsef2733 the whole point is that a 24 core chip at twice the cost is being compared to a chip with 1/3rd of the cores and 1/2 of the price on a game that specifically doesn't care about vcache (and idk if you've seen but cod is dead)
"Faster is faster" yeah well I hope it would be at twice the cost
@@bgeezus3955 well the whole point is that faster is faster. You can put the 7950x3d into that comparison if the price parity makes you happier, but the results will not change.
Good shit
More performance = more heat
100% and that's what people don't understand
@@ryanbrowning5586 exactly
Intel for more performance by wattage
10%+ fps for 200watts 🤣
Love you're channel!
watching you for years, but my first amd chip always had Intel now have a 7800x3d. but my fps 1% lows in ground war are 200/220 ultra settings of the game. Average above 300. So I don't think this testing or you're cpu is right this time.
Try the benchmark it's also showing cpu fps 1% lows average and max.
By the way mine is only curve optimized and tuned 6000 mhz ram
Your not getting over 300fps in 1440p on ultra settings u will be the only person in the world too
@@samledger9599no but I can lower resolution to 1080p or lower with my 4090, so you can fully use you're cpu to get the gpu bottle neck out. And I'm getting above 300 fps on ground war. And above 200 fps on the 1% lows?
@@coolbvwes1 yeah so are u getting 300 fps on ground war in 1440p ultra settings or 1080p
Frame chaser what the best Asus z790 mother all around hero, apex or formula
How much difference between the two @ 7680x2160 , Trying to keep above 120fps
Hiw did you get into Jensens house with a 7800x3d? He allowed it. Lol. Thanks for the video.
Hey man I want to upgrade my cpu and my motherboard and rams but I don’t know what to buy I have Rx 7900xt red devil OC pls need best of best CPU
Just found your channel and jeez it’s refreshing… everything you have said about and has been my life for the past few years. 5800x to 5950x to 5800x3d everything has been shit for some reason. Looks like Black Friday here we go 14700k. Or 14900k if there is a good deal
they sure gotta work more on optimization in this game, im getting same avg fps with my poor ass 5800x3d (Im too scared to look at the lows :( )
should I get a 7800x3d or a 14600k? to pair with 4070ti 1080p/1440p
I will be building in a fractal terra sff so thermals to be considered :)
Do this with the rtx 4080 super and ryzen 7 7800x3d vs I7 14700k
Love it and I dont even play Call of Duty! Just here for the lolz and algorithm
Do review on pubg , The real cpu bound game , i have 14700k and i regret not getting 7800x3d like my brother did .
from what i see on various benchmarks out there the 3D cache works good on 1080p, it loses a lot on 2k and 4k and i don't think normal people buying xtx or the 4090 just to play 1080p in year 23 lol
That’s bullshit who told you that lie 7800x3D gets 20-40 more fps at 1440p over 13900k I get more fps then frame chasers watch a guy called beefy tech my build is similar to his
Plus you need 8000mhz of ram on intel to even compete with someone who has a way cheaper 6000mhz 7800x3D build imagine spending thousands of dollars to get lower fps then a normal 7800x3D build 😢
But jooooofooooos the crown is on the amd how did it not take the W??! 👑
Why does the quality look better on the AMD side
Incorrect, I captured the Intel system with an elgato 4:2:2 capture, and the AMD was captured with Avermedia 4:4:4 livegamer Bolt. Not everything is a conspiracy theory boys
@@isfcert2843 this is why responding to comments is meaningless, your going to believe what you believe, it means nothing to me at the end of the day. Wish you the best
@@isfcert2843 Interesting how he decided to just say responding is meaningless, then to actually refute what you typed. You are probably on to something.
were are not going to talk about wattage?
My potato pc just laughers when these pro complain about there processors like for real I run into some you guys and roast the hell out of the team guest what the spec is
Any chance you can compare 14900k ddr4 vs ddr5 to see if anything has changed?
No change
No change
ram doesnt correlate. thats gross. terrible comparison.
Definitely interesting. It’s def not worth an upgrade and platform change from AM5 quite yet, but cool to see that you’re pointing out what most reviewers aren’t talking about
The other reviewers aren't deliberately sabotaging AMD to perform worse. This clown once tried 6000mhz with a 110bclk and wonders why it wasn't stable. All his "COD bro" kids don't know any better, so he has to make AMD look bad so he can sell his "consults".
@@charlesred8986 100% this. Found your comment. Correct. This clown ALWAYS purposely sabotages his AMD setups just to make Intel win and to depict AMD in poor light. All this just to farm his consults. COD bros here need to wake up.
@@charlesred8986literally people are spending thousands on 8000mhz ram on intel just to get lower fps then a basic 7800x3D build with 6000mhz ram this guy is comedy 😂
hows the intel so much cooler lol
Can you please do dark hero vs apex encore (OC) Test🙏🏻
Good quality video as always
If you want to reduce fps drops in Cod, turn off resize bar. Had fps drops down tp 150fps with resize bar on, if I turn it off, my fps lows are at 205fps in warzone and resurgence
@@DrTopLiftDPTfor me it works better with it off on all maps.
@@DrTopLiftDPTwell from 150fps lows to 205 is an improvement of 36.7% in vondal and aishika. In al mazrah my lows are around 11% better.
good work
THE GOAT!
Luv how he always puts the crown 👑 on amd.
Have not even watched the vid yet... but I love the content.
(I have a ryzen 5700g and 5800x byw :-)
I am betting on intel..
Right time to start watching now..
Well yeah man.... 13900ks its just a plain better "all around" CPU and that's a FACT!!! But hear me out for a split second dude.... The price of that 7800x3d its just so much lower than the i9 of yours and DAAAAAMN!! how much power that sucker pulls from the wall?.... the 7800x3d its crazy efficient and thats why people likes these X3D cpus, just don't be crazy about it!!
if you're buying bleeding edge tech just for cod "competitiveness", I got bad news for you buddies lol
who cares lol if you're poor couple thousands of dollars might bother you but if its like your weekly income why would you care about spending that much once a year or 2 years
@@fefsefefesfsefsef2733 who cares if you lick spoiled milk off the floor. so long as you're rich & can afford a doctor, all good right? lmao
Watts. 🤔 I will stick with amd.
1440 pehhh is my jam.
It's cod. Cod doesn't care about vcache and it's not using cpu properly on any cpu. It's bad cpu optimization that's why it's not using the whole gpu. I have the same issues playing diablo iv. Both games are blizz/Activision and are the only 2 games that share the same issues my pc gets.
I'd like to see jufes compare cpu that are priced the same and not a 24 core 600+ dollar cpu vs an 8 core 400 dollar cpu
U should do a video on pci latency timers.......