Heyo everyone! I'll be running Baldur's Gate 3, Any% All Acts on July 26th at ESA Summer 2024 in Sweden, so if you're interested make sure to check it out! Also big shoutouts to bisc, the current world record holder for every category in BG3 currently, he was a huge help during my GDQ run. You can check out his speedrun.com profile here: www.speedrun.com/users/bisc If you want to see my SGDQ 2024 run, you can find it here! ruclips.net/video/ypBqN1VXx8Q/видео.html
genuinely I love these kind of videos a 100000x more than the actual speedruns. having someone talk me through the decision making and tactics of a speedrun like this is amazing and I love you for it
for real. This is the only kind of speed run content I really enjoy. At least some put the explanations in the comments or descriptions but I prefer this. I don't speedrun but now I know about stacking bombs and throwing them for an insane cluster grenade.
@@yep8058 I have just lost the honor run in literaly 5 second taking damage from fire surface 2 times in the nautilode... and yeah i have spent 30 min doing the pg
@@DamnedToDream Друг, обрати внимание на то, что хронос после призыва рук, сразу заходит в локацию, а после очень быстро жмет на лазлаель, благодаря чему переносится обратно в локацию где стоят руки и может манипулировать ими)
I did it too except I messed up everything in Act 3 and I had to fight Orin and Gortash with my lvl 5 team. Then I messed up again and had to fight in the high halls. then used gale bomb on the brain
@@DamnedToDream I walked the extra mile recruiting Gale. Just get three easy items in the grove to feed him in act 2 and do an extra rest in there to trigger Elminster to show up. (be also prepared for a wisdom throw for the durge companion cut scene after shadow fell). Don't discourage him from blowing himself up and have him in your team in act three (so he doesn't get kidnapped by Orin and stuff). Worked pretty well. My affinity with him was high and I didn't even have to do a persuasion check). Felt a lot easier than the brain fight, which always gives me trouble.
@@DamnedToDream you have to click your character portrait first then laezels during the cutscene. If you just just click the laezel portrait once the cutscene starts then u cant use your mage hand.
As RP heavy as BG3 is (esp given it's basically 5e), I'm 4 mins in and love the idea of me playing the game normally, min/maxing my stats and 100% completionist running the game... and, as I prepare to defend the Grove, see some random guy just jumping from ledge to ledge, picking up potions then fucking the hell off lool
@ChronosReturns Thanks to your videos I was able to complete my Ps5 honor mode run in a little under 5 hours. There were a few adjustments I needed to make, since I am running on the current patch but I was able to get this done thanks to you!
Thank you so much for this commentary video, i was able to finish my honour run in 5h 36mins (i messed up orin fight by not casting invis on jaheria and respeced into different classes like 30 times to fix it🙄🙄). Every strat worked for me in patch 7. I was really upset bkz in my previous coop honour run i dropped just after killing the netherbrain and i couldn't reconnect the session (game didn't allowed it) so this video just made my day!
Can confirm this is still doable and I just completed it on Xbox. There were only a few things I had to shift to make it work. 1. To get moon lantern don’t talk to spider guy, just command drop and pick up the lantern. Shadowheart will definitely die but you don’t need her and you can just transfer from her inventory into yours. 2. Not console specific but I made the mistake when doing ketheric/myrkul of only throwing the bombs from my inventory and it wouldn’t do enough damage. For some reason you specifically need to drop them on the ground and then throw. 3. For final fight, pretty much do what he does except I found you need to dismiss the mage hands after you throw potions as sometimes they will still trigger initiative. By no means did I do this at speed run pace, but it did help me get the achievement as well as the gold dice
I'm having an issue rn when doing the gith intermission where when I jump down to the last area with the emperor and the gith, it auto triggers the cut scene and I'm not able to get spells ready. I have watched the video and made sure that I am jumping far enough back but it still triggers. Did you encounter the same or similar issues?
@@devicefps The first bombs you buy from the shop are bugged and will explode in your face when thrown. You need to give them to Shadowheart right after you purchase the first set in order to not get them mixed up with your good bombs. Chronos goes over this briefly in his video but you can see him explain it in more detail in his SGDQ run linked below this video.
@@bzerkt_tattoos yes I had that issue, only thing I did different is stand far further back on that platform. Somehow in the video he jumps far further without triggering initiative but I had to be like right up on the edge of the rock. You teleport forward once initiative starts so just buff up on the edge and then run in
Thanks so much for this video. So hard to find speedrun vids that guide others too. I finally got the dice thanks to you!! Funny thing, your speedrun from a few months ago (48 min one) was the first video of yours i found, and when you got to the kethric fight in that video you didnt say aloud to equip the ring in that one and the bombs and i lost the save file 😮. Turns out i just needed to click on this video to realize what i did wrong 🤣 Good stuff!
Update Dec '24: the mashing pickpocket glitch was fixed so this method of skipping a lot of the assassin quest is much harder, requiring enhance ability, invisibility, and perhaps pickpocket expertise, it could be optimized further but we just reset until we got it. Easy enough to make a camp follower with one level in rogue though. Also we found that Gale doesn't need any magic items in act 1 just grab him and rush to act 2, elminster should appear on long rest; saves a lot of time because triggering the orb hunger is very inconsistent and unpredictable it turns out. ~~~ Thanks for your video!! Got my golden die in a relatively painless 12hrs thanks to adapting this run. (I didn't care about the actual speed obviously, and this was pre patch 7 but maybe my version will survive) I did it on nondurge, so act 3 looked different for me, and i also recruited gale for the netherbrain fight. (Very easy to find a few magic items to spare so elminster grants you the stabilized orb). Commenting mainly to mention that on console/controller you CAN make the jump from the top displacer beast area in the guantlet of shar down to the shadowfell door; it just requires very precise camera work and jump timing. Probably less frustrating to 1) drink an invisibility potion and do soft step trial although that might not be as fast 2) misty step the faith leap trial if youre not scared of dying unpredictably 3) or telling yurgir to off himself with charisma checks, but they are pretty high stakes. Then you have the one orb as mentioned in the video. In act 3 i pickpocket mr red dwarf assassin to impress the murder tribunal and get the amulet of bhaal, that was the major deviation from the run here apart from feeding gale. (Technically i think it's a glitch to mash the pickpocket button to mitigate misses until you roll a 20, i probably had to reload too) I messed up with the vendor bomb stacks so had to get creative with fire vs ketheric/myrkul. I think i had to let kharnis kill SH too after picking up the lamp. It was scuffed throughout and had to pivot a lot on the fly, but now i can patiently enjoy my honor runs in peace with a gold die. :) cheers and good luck to anyone else attempting to get their gold d20 fast!
@@thegifting267 Yup, being good at the game. I finished my run using invisible potions approaching the Karsus Crown, and defeating the Brain using my most powerful attacks, X2 potions and a lot of RNG. If everything goes wrong, close the game via task manager repeatly, deactivate auto-saves. Yeah, I know, it's pretty lame, but that's the only way to not waste 40hrs of my life hahah
I couldn't do the basket trick, so I just had Shart drink an invisibility potion (I'd bought from Roah in the goblin camp) after picking up the moon lantern.
I just used this video for my honor mode run and it worked perfectly! I’ll reply to my own comments with some things that I had to change/adapt to on Xbox (in case anyone runs into similar issues) :
- I didn’t need the second speed potion for the githyanki fight, but it definitely would have helped. I wasn’t able to loot a second one due to RNG. -when recruiting jeheira, she was bugged and wasn’t listed as an ally, despite being playable/in my party. This meant the enlarge spell and the peerless focus never worked on her. For the final fight and Orin toss, I gave laezel a hill giant potion and all the buffs and had her replace jaheira. -console sucks at point and click mechanics, so sometimes I had to take slightly different jump routes. In the area after you take the boat to the end game area, I had to make jaheira jump on the plant/vine bridge thing and then to the right high ground. - I recruited astarian so he could pick pocket withers. - moon lantern part, I sent both shadow and laezel down there so laezel could grab the lantern and transport it to my inventory. Both companions died but withers revive was fine. - the mountain pass area you have to cast fog cloud and jump around the enemies, but they would detect me nearly every time but if you get far enough away just flee combat and go back to map and you should be fine to progress without dying. - in the shadowlands, I sent my companions to camp but when I returned to camp they were dead? I think they bugged out and fell to the darkness blight but I would manually go to camp to dismiss them. - because you can’t reload a save, technically* you can force close the game on Xbox and when you reload, it’ll take you back to the previous save. - gortash dialogue to prevent agro: refuse to give him stones and bargain with him that you split the stones.
Thank you @ChronosReturns ! Got my Gold Dice this evening on PS5! A slower run for me to get more cash & using Gale for the ending after multiple fails doing the invis potion route from this video, but so relieved to get it done! Thanks again!
@@blackeyekin9300 I got Jaheira there first, that clears all the enemies on the tower through the cut scenes. I then moved Gale up there as I didn’t want to risk it, so invisibility and crouch to pass through courtyard area as his jumping was rubbish, which worked a treat. So blooming tense though! Massive sigh of relief when it all played out! Artifacts - I just gave him the one - Gloves from the Tollhouse basement in Act 1. Went there to get stuff to sell to make sure of enough cash for respecing characters. Then make sure to rest to get Elminster before heading to Ketheric. Otherwise Gale leaves. Then, make sure to have him in the party before heading to the Morphic pools. There are certain chats to have after that to ensure he is up for the sacrifice.
@@wojtekmikoajczak9744 I did - same method as his video. Have you made sure to have the ring equipped? That does the extra damage. Also make sure to be throwing it at the ground by him, not directly at him. But otherwise the same. Had a few probs with the bug where it blows you up, but think that was when Shadowheart leaves the party it might have been adding her duff bombs to mine? So next run to be safe, I passed them to Gale, and no more probs, just followed the steps. Hardest part was the Orin throw - so hard on PS5.
did this in tactician for practice and just finished my honor mode run today, thank you for this!! i probably never wouldve gotten the achievement otherwise lol
I didnt speed run it. I completed up to act 2 and used cherub mask to complete honor run. I just used some of the strategy from this video. Total game time for honour achievement 22 hrs.
I've been attempting this and for some reason at the Ketheric fight my smokepowder bombs detonate immediately when I throw them, killing my durge and killing my run... consistently happened 2 or 3 times now and I'm not sure if its a bug or something else?? there's nothing for them to hit and detonate on so I guess they're detonating on themselves?
He mentions it in the video but I missed it the first time too. The first smoke bombs you buy from a vendor are bugged. When you buy the first stack give them to Shadowheart so that you don't use them. I just tried the Kethric fight myself and the smoke bombs didn't explode in my hand.
This is why my throw exploses ... At first I thought it was because of my torch in my back, at second I tought it was the air on fire which ignites/exploses them (I tested on crashed nautiloïd) and finally I tested with one less bomb to work and thought my charcater was lack of force and throw on his feet ... No just a bug, not a feature ... sad.
Can someone please explain how he isnt spending spell slots to buff with enhance jump and feather fall? Timestamps such as 7:52 he buffs shart without using any spell slots...trying to follow this guide but keep using my slots thanks
Have to be a ritual magic caster (in this case, a sorceror). Casting Enhance Leap and Feather Fall out of combat is free. If you cast it in the middle of combat, it then costs a spell slot.
One might argue that throwing 10 bombs at the same time is also considered a glitch, but at this point this "mechanic" has existed till this day and they refuse to fix it, so its really hard to define what a glitch is and what isnt. Anyways that were some interesting methods I didnt know good vid
Edit*** Checked the GDQ speedrun and now I understand it better! Got to pop em DURING the cutscene, got it EDIT #2 : Well my PB is now 2 hours, thanks to you! And me doing way too much safety moves. Thank you buddy, you are awesome.
24:30 hi im having a weird issue around this part. i throw the 8 bombs at ketheric perfectly fine right, then when i throw the 10 bombs at myrkul they explode on me and i gotta reload (its not a legit honor mode run anyways lets be honest), anyone think they know why this happens?
Many thanks! Thanks to you, I completed Honor Mode with my PS5/controller. Thank you, and everyone in the comments, for sharing your expertise and showing new ways to experience BG3.
38:43 just tried. No issue at console (PS5). Had elixir of hill giant. One weird thing is however that if you imagine the pit you threw Orin in in a bird perspective, you have to pretty much aim to the center of the pit. When it shows 'death', then you throw her, far deeper then you should be able to, but it works just fine 👍
@@sifvydiv simply sacrifice the one taking the lantern. The other character should be out of combat and take the lantern from the inventory. When Karniss and gang are gone, resurrect your companion
thank you but i have one more question, in act 3 (console) where do you find the second invisibility potion? i cant seem to find it anywhere and i dont remember him picking up a second..
@@sifvydiv 1st potion 10:56 , 2nd potion 35:30. If you don't do speedrun, you can simply buy more from shop. Important: definitely get rid of the first smokepowder bombs you buy from vendor, they explode in your face. He uses 8 bombs for ketheric, and 10 for phase 2. Make that 9 for ketheric, and 11 for rest. Try not to get the party dead screen. Normally, you can restart from previous save, but if you play on console, it will put you from honour mode to custom mode (learned from my mistakes). Lastly, disable auto save under options. Good luck.
@CursedZorthan i completely missed it 😭 i was too focused on where he was going i didnt even notice- thank you so much! i really appreciate the help, you're amazing
After patch 7, you can’t successfully huck the smokepowder bombs at KT or Myrkul from the platform. They hit some kind of invisible wall and explode in your face. You can still chuck them from below the Myrkul spawn area, though.
I used your speed run as a base to get my achievement. It took a couple times, because I had to adjust to things that didn't work on controller (which usually got me in trouble, like the durge companion scene triggering), but today I finished the honor run. ❤ Thanks a lot
I'm also trying this with a controller, may I ask how you managed to get the moon lantern? I can't seem to drag it into the basket like he did in the video
@@tiredteo You have to sacrifice at least one person. I usually do two (SH and Lae'zel), because it's easier. Do the talk bit with Kar'niss until he starts walking, then get the second person, which shouldn't be Gale due to necrotic aura, (also don't forget the torch to avoid shadow sickness or whatever it's called) right next to Kar'niss. Get into turn-based mode. Use command drop with SH and when successful grab the lantern with second person. You can send it right over to durge in the item section to start the pixie cut scene. SH and the other person will probably be killed. You can resurrect them with a scroll or Withers. I usually do it with Withers, because of full health and I always recruit Astarion for easy pickpocketing of Withers, who doesn't care. You may have to wait to get enough money in Last Light Inn, if you don't have the 200-400 gold. You may manage with SH alone without turn-based, but Kar'niss always picks the lantern up too quickly for me to get to it in time. Hope that helps!
@@tiredteo Ignore that (no offense at all, just have a much simpler way!) Simply send Shadowheart down like he does and have her pick it up. Literally the second she picks it up, go to camp. The cutscene will play there and you are free to continue.
@@StopReadingMyNameOrElse No offense taken. Glad that worked for you. Everyone aggroed the moment I picked it up, so I didn't have time to do anything else and had to find a workaround.
I hope other people won't be dumb like me and fail to realize the method for stacking bombs. You have to go into character sheet, select place (bomb) in world, then set them down next to you. Then select throw from the action wheels, select item from world, then you can throw all the bombs you placed next to PC at once.😅
When I tried this invisibility will always break once Jahera touches the brain stem at the end, I've taken a look at this and apparently being able to open the portal in 1 turn has been patches out or this is a glitch, also patch 7 dropped as I was doing this so I'm thinking Larian just wants to screw all of us out of doing this
@@TheRealDurge From testing, the only difference in the run is that if you fail casting Command: Drop on Kar'niss you'll make all the enemies there aggressive. Otherwise, Patch 6 and 7 have no differences as far as I can tell.
Possible suggestion for entering the Gauntlet of Shar (the knockback "puzzle"): My typical method of doing this (non-speed running) has always been turn based mode and then misty stepping into it. I have not tried the same idea with jump, but I know for certain that if you've in turn based and just portal directly in you can hit the "Shar button" before the knockback occurs. I just feel like it might be slightly faster to do that (directly jump into it in turn based mode) then the jump to the side/walking the edge (ASSUMING it works with jump like it does misty step). Food for thought.
You can directly jump through with the correct positioning for it which is the fastest way, and you can jump through before the knockback occurs as well, there's many different ways to do it. I just felt like doing it this way since it shows that you can also memorize the puzzle as well.
I'm unable to subtle spell misty step out of the pods at 21:46. No matter where i teleport to, whether its inside or outside an enemies field of vision, combat immediately triggers. On Xbox if that matters. Can anyone confirm this still works?
What are the changes to this run after patch 7, im hearing theres a problem with the ketheric fight with the bombs, and not being abt to go invisible in the final fight, are there any workarounds that will make this run possible?
I finally was able to do this speed run on a ps5 in 1:41:31.45. Thank you for the strats. Just wish I could skip the cutscenes as fast as a pc and stop the timer on loading screens. I'm hoping for a better setup next time.
Update. Also smokepowder bomb bug hurts hard. Can you make an updated voice over to really stress the importance to some of the smaller details you breezed over?
When I tried to recreate this run, I threw the eight smokepowder bombs at Kethric, and each one rolled nearly minimum damage. His goons then quickly killed us
Patch 7. Currently following your guide to speedrun honor mode and I am having issue in the section where you escape from balthazar lab. The enemy placement is different and the enemy that is closest to balthazar ( towards the exit door ) has now increased vision and there is no space where to misty step, they see me right away even with my invisible spell. I literally tried for 2 hours but no luck. Anyone run into same issue?
On current version of the game unfortunately, I can't seem to throw the giths into the void in the Orpheus fight Edit: Apparently I'm dumb! You are supposed to use Throw action and NOT Improvised melee weapon action. Throw works excellent!
Debating if i should knock out honour mode with this now before patch 7. Im about to finish act 1 of my get all achievements/trophy run. Would obviously lead to some spoilers...
I was at the end and got both Jaheira and my Tav invisible with mage hand, throw invis potion. However, the game forced Jaheira and tav to be visible after the cutscene. Run over :( Was this patched?
It shouldn't be patched, but you do need to have Jaheira, your Durge, and both mage hands to be invisible as well, so all of your party including the mage hands needs to be invisible
@@ChronosReturns thanks for the follow up. I tested this a couple times on my defunct save and couldn’t get it for some reason (both mage hands invisible, both characters invisible still resulted in the player characters being made visible when cutscene triggered). The mage hands remained invisible coincidentally. I think the key was starting the cutscene then making the character invisible (which you covered in your tutorial series). You were moving through this section pretty quick, so maybe I missed the part where you started the cutscene and switched. All that to say, instead of the ending you did here, I made sure (1) Lae Zel and Jaheira jump off of the map at the beginning, and (2) that I start the final cutscene before throwing the invis potion on to my Tav. After I posted this comment I managed to put a full run together :) super appreciate your videos. I’ve always loved speed running but this was the first speed run I’ve ever actually completed. Great work!!!
You can I just did it. My first time I messed up but I realized when he did it he drops the bombs on the ground and then throws them, if you are like me you threw them right from your inventory and they don’t work that way
I'm trying to do this on PS5 and the smokepowder bombs keep exploding as soon as I throw them. Is there a trick to placing and then throwing the bombs? Playing on the most recent patch, if that helps.
Great run! I will try to copy it in order to get my last trophy. One question: of I beat the game in Honor mode, will I unlock also the trophy for Tactician or I need do to two separate runs?
@YouSayRoll I’m having the same issue that you did. My bombs are basically doing no damage, even if I use 10 of them. I toss the bombs beside him and it’s still doing nothing. any recommendations?
@@thegifting267 Alas no. The way I eventually did it was by using 9 bombs on the man and 10 on the aspect. Maybe just try and throw them in the exact same spot? Also not sure if new patch's will have changed anything. Also also, make sure you have the ring equipped as that deals extra damage with the bombs and is super important. Good luck.
quick question, how do you kill ketheric and bone king with a single bomb? do they fell down or something? I throw tons of bomb at them during the battle, and it just dealt normal damage
You need to make sure the spot you're throwing Orin is at a place where it says death with it being highlighted red. Just simply throwing off the edge will not properly work.
There`s another place you can jump down in the temple, you just need box to stand on, so you have a clean line down. By the way. door with 3 spheres has holes. I managed to blink through it, but I don`t use glithes in my 1hp no dice(=no randomness allowed except initiative) solo tactician run. I`m allowed to see my beautiful golden dice only 4 times in the game, when brain forces me. can`t even unlock stuff)
Could you tell me what I'm doing wrong: In the finale, I summon a hand with Jeyhera and the main character, throw a bottle of invisibility with my hand so that both the hand and its owner become invisible. I lift Jeyhera up the pole - everyone immediately attacks me, but the hero is visible. What's wrong? Or does this method not work in patch 7?
you are bringing the hands into the fight with you and agroing the enemies, you need to drag the hand away from your characters pic so it is a seperate entity. Then wait for the mage hands to despawn on their own once youve thrown the potions and the cutscene will start by its self.
@@dommynatrix8226 Thanks for the answer, but it didn't help. The hands are separated from the characters. I throw potions with my hands so that both the hand and the character become invisible, Jeyhera stands next to the pillar itself. After the hands disappear, the dialogue icon to the left of the character does not appear, and the cutscene does not start. Maybe I'm missing something else?
Heres what i did yesterday and it worked. Get Jeyhera in position, drop the potion on the ground next to her then swap to durge and do the same. Then, whilst still on durge, cast magehand and drag it off you then swap to Jayhera and do the same. Then whist still Jeyhera, click on the brain stem and quickly swap laezel as shown in the vid. Now you can swap to the separated mage hands and throw the potions. Then just wait for them to despawn and you should get the cutscene automatically and the enemies wont be agrod.
@@dommynatrix8226 Finally I did it! I used the method from the previous Chronos video: ruclips.net/video/juqmZ2gP8JU/видео.html&ab_channel=Chronos I started a dialogue with the pillar of Jeyhera, and switched to the dead Lazel, and from there to the hands, distributing invisibility potions with them. Thank you and @ChronosReturns for everything :)
Hello, when I throw the bombs near Ketheric, it does not kill him immediately whereas in my previous runs it worked without any problem. I also notice that he has protections around him and I don't remember him having that in my previous runs. What have I done that would warrant these additional protections for him? thank you in advance for your help
There shouldn't be any additional protections apart from the new ones that were added between patches 5 and 6, which reduces the damage Ketheric and Myrkul take, but the method I do here should work on the latest patch of the game, so make sure you are doing everything correctly here.
Thank you for your response Chronos. I actually realized that I forgot to equip the ring before. I wanted to go too quickly. Quick question regarding the trophy in honor mode. If you quit the game without saving on PS5, does this cancel the trophy?
@@ValentinRichart I don't know for how it works in PS5, but I assume once you reach the credits at the end, that's when it gets triggered, so quitting the game after without saving should work I believe.
I meant leaving the game during the game. For example, if I accidentally trigger a fight, I leave the game and restart my game before this fight. Does this block obtaining the trophy?
Try zooming out to the max angle you can by holding down on the right thumbstick if you're on controller. If you're on keyboard and mouse you just need to toggle your tactical camera by pressing the key which I believe is "O" by default. Otherwise it's impossible to tell without video.
If I throw the 10 bomb stack on Apostle of Myrkul, the Bombs explode in my hand and I die. If i load the save, it happend all time. I recreate the run often and it happends just sometimes, but mutch to often and i don't know why it happens. Someone any Idea?
I believe I talk about it a bit during this run, during the shopping sequence, where the first set of bombs you buy from the shopkeeper is a set of bombs that will explode in your hand, so you need to buy them then put them somewhere else.
@@ChronosReturns Ahh I imagine. Thank you. see you at sgdq, really cool run. I'm looking forward for the new patch and what new mechanics we will find. :)
Used this to get my first honour completion, as the patch 7 honour changes scared me. There’s two speed potions by the rock near Astarion, u need to succeed a nature roll to get them, plus u can just use astarion later on, for the Smoke bombs instead of a hireling. However this adds more time, so ain’t a good speedrun start but very helpful for a casual completion.
Yes, speed potions by the rock with Astarion is what I used for my GDQ run, it's a safe back up strat. Recruiting other characters is also nice as a back up, but can result in more cutscenes to go through too.
Damn I totally messed up at the end, I mistakenly had Jaheira end her first turn, and she was mind controlled by one of the enemies in the turn order, effectively ruining the run... Luckily, I had a speed potion (I went to grab the 2 by the coast/beach at the beginning) and just used Perilous Stakes on myself, laid down all the fireworks and flew away and let it rip... Damn lucky for that speed potion... *lol* Took me 3 hours but "Honour" mode has been completed, and my last achievement accomplished...
Amazing run, Chronos! Im currently trying to do a solo run without companions :) About the Orin math, what is the maximum athletics needed to get garantee an Orin throw? I play githyanki sorcerer lvl 4/rogue lvl 1 with expertise in athletics and 21 str elixir. This gives me 5str + 6expertise + 1 githyanki boots = 12 athletics with advantage. Is this too high or is it still not capped?
I don't believe you can 100% guarantee an Orin throw, since a nat 1 in BG3 will be an automatic failure no matter what (not sure about this), although it might change with other things around it. The current set up that I do in this run has approximately around a 5.4% chance to fail. (Actual calculation is 1d20! + 1d4 + 9 DC 17) = 0.05375 or about a 5.375% chance With your additions, I believe that might make it a 0.00875, so about a 1% chance. (9->12 for the DC). P.S - The game has a bug that says that a skill check of 0 is needed and will fail occasionally, but that's just a text bug as well iirc, the Actual roll is for a 17.
@@ChronosReturns Thanks a lot for the answer. Yeah nat 1's unfortunately always fail. but with advantage that should be incredibly rare :) Like 1 in 400?
Does anyone know why subtle misty step is putting me in combat vs balthazar? I've reached that point about 3 times, making sure i am not in sight, and I immediately roll initiative. I am also invisible when I do it and on turn based mode.
I cant understand why everyone can open the door at Shars trials with "Knock"... My shadow Crystals are bugged but i also cant open the door with Knock, it always says "invalid target". So i'm locked out of Nightsongs prison..
I messed up my run a bit on Orin, I could get her off the cliff and she transformed, so I spent the next 4h running around with the characters not in combat dealing dmg without going into aggro and slowly ticking her hp down xD Not a optimal run, but I got the achi non the less
Heyo everyone!
I'll be running Baldur's Gate 3, Any% All Acts on July 26th at ESA Summer 2024 in Sweden, so if you're interested make sure to check it out!
Also big shoutouts to bisc, the current world record holder for every category in BG3 currently, he was a huge help during my GDQ run. You can check out his speedrun.com profile here: www.speedrun.com/users/bisc
If you want to see my SGDQ 2024 run, you can find it here!
ruclips.net/video/ypBqN1VXx8Q/видео.html
Between the invisibility, the jumping, and all the explosives, this run is basically "Can you beat BG3 as a stealth bomber"
genuinely I love these kind of videos a 100000x more than the actual speedruns.
having someone talk me through the decision making and tactics of a speedrun like this is amazing and I love you for it
Seriously though, after watching this I feel like I could make an attempt at a run
for real. This is the only kind of speed run content I really enjoy. At least some put the explanations in the comments or descriptions but I prefer this.
I don't speedrun but now I know about stacking bombs and throwing them for an insane cluster grenade.
You finished the game faster than I finish in the character creator, god damn
Green eyes.. Blue eyes.. Green eyes.. Blue eyes.. ooh heterochromia!
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Blue eyes with red eyes..
10 minutes to pick a race
10 minutes to pick a class
30 minutes to design the appearance
5 minutes to figure out a cool name
oh I failed the speedrun
@@yep8058 I have just lost the honor run in literaly 5 second taking damage from fire surface 2 times in the nautilode... and yeah i have spent 30 min doing the pg
If you’re alright by Jaheira, you’re al-take care now
3:25 Act 1
7:46 Act 2
21:51 Ketheric
27:32 Astral Plane (intermission)
32:12 Act 3
38:03 Orin
40:18 Gortash
42:17 Morphic Pool
44:41 High Hall
46:28 Brainstem
47:35 Netherbrain
I love that Jaheira is the big hero here. Saving the world, once again.
its fascinating to me how 3 entirely different parts of the map can be loaded in at once and the games performance barely suffers at all
Used this run to get my honor mode gold dice. Thanks man! Great job with GDQ even with the issues!
How did you handle the final boss? I did the mage hand trick and it doesn't work.
@@DamnedToDream Друг, обрати внимание на то, что хронос после призыва рук, сразу заходит в локацию, а после очень быстро жмет на лазлаель, благодаря чему переносится обратно в локацию где стоят руки и может манипулировать ими)
I did it too except I messed up everything in Act 3 and I had to fight Orin and Gortash with my lvl 5 team. Then I messed up again and had to fight in the high halls. then used gale bomb on the brain
@@DamnedToDream I walked the extra mile recruiting Gale. Just get three easy items in the grove to feed him in act 2 and do an extra rest in there to trigger Elminster to show up. (be also prepared for a wisdom throw for the durge companion cut scene after shadow fell). Don't discourage him from blowing himself up and have him in your team in act three (so he doesn't get kidnapped by Orin and stuff). Worked pretty well. My affinity with him was high and I didn't even have to do a persuasion check). Felt a lot easier than the brain fight, which always gives me trouble.
@@DamnedToDream you have to click your character portrait first then laezels during the cutscene. If you just just click the laezel portrait once the cutscene starts then u cant use your mage hand.
As RP heavy as BG3 is (esp given it's basically 5e), I'm 4 mins in and love the idea of me playing the game normally, min/maxing my stats and 100% completionist running the game... and, as I prepare to defend the Grove, see some random guy just jumping from ledge to ledge, picking up potions then fucking the hell off lool
@ChronosReturns Thanks to your videos I was able to complete my Ps5 honor mode run in a little under 5 hours. There were a few adjustments I needed to make, since I am running on the current patch but I was able to get this done thanks to you!
Thank you so much for this commentary video, i was able to finish my honour run in 5h 36mins (i messed up orin fight by not casting invis on jaheria and respeced into different classes like 30 times to fix it🙄🙄). Every strat worked for me in patch 7. I was really upset bkz in my previous coop honour run i dropped just after killing the netherbrain and i couldn't reconnect the session (game didn't allowed it) so this video just made my day!
How about the end? When I go to face the netherbrain I lose my invisibility😢
I got honour mode trophy today on my ps5 thanks to your guide. Thank you!
THA GOAT
thanks for the guide. Got my golden dice now I can enjoy honor mode without the worry
Can confirm this is still doable and I just completed it on Xbox. There were only a few things I had to shift to make it work.
1. To get moon lantern don’t talk to spider guy, just command drop and pick up the lantern. Shadowheart will definitely die but you don’t need her and you can just transfer from her inventory into yours.
2. Not console specific but I made the mistake when doing ketheric/myrkul of only throwing the bombs from my inventory and it wouldn’t do enough damage. For some reason you specifically need to drop them on the ground and then throw.
3. For final fight, pretty much do what he does except I found you need to dismiss the mage hands after you throw potions as sometimes they will still trigger initiative.
By no means did I do this at speed run pace, but it did help me get the achievement as well as the gold dice
I'm having an issue rn when doing the gith intermission where when I jump down to the last area with the emperor and the gith, it auto triggers the cut scene and I'm not able to get spells ready. I have watched the video and made sure that I am jumping far enough back but it still triggers. Did you encounter the same or similar issues?
Didn't the bombs explode in your hand? mine did on my first try
@@devicefps The first bombs you buy from the shop are bugged and will explode in your face when thrown. You need to give them to Shadowheart right after you purchase the first set in order to not get them mixed up with your good bombs. Chronos goes over this briefly in his video but you can see him explain it in more detail in his SGDQ run linked below this video.
@@bzerkt_tattoos THX BRO
@@bzerkt_tattoos yes I had that issue, only thing I did different is stand far further back on that platform. Somehow in the video he jumps far further without triggering initiative but I had to be like right up on the edge of the rock. You teleport forward once initiative starts so just buff up on the edge and then run in
Just finished my honour mode for the first time because of this. Thank you!
I just finished the run today, thank you so much, it was reaaaally hard especially because of the RNG on the invisibility potion and orin
You were getting into act 3 while I'm still trying to get off the nautiloid. Amazing. XD
Thanks so much for this video. So hard to find speedrun vids that guide others too. I finally got the dice thanks to you!!
Funny thing, your speedrun from a few months ago (48 min one) was the first video of yours i found, and when you got to the kethric fight in that video you didnt say aloud to equip the ring in that one and the bombs and i lost the save file 😮. Turns out i just needed to click on this video to realize what i did wrong 🤣 Good stuff!
No idea firebolting the body would open bhaals doorway. Learned something new, thanks.
very cool run, way better than others I've seen so far. - Also big thanks for explaining it all!
Yessss, so excited to try this later, ty. It's so nice to hear the thought processes behind these actions.
Update Dec '24: the mashing pickpocket glitch was fixed so this method of skipping a lot of the assassin quest is much harder, requiring enhance ability, invisibility, and perhaps pickpocket expertise, it could be optimized further but we just reset until we got it. Easy enough to make a camp follower with one level in rogue though. Also we found that Gale doesn't need any magic items in act 1 just grab him and rush to act 2, elminster should appear on long rest; saves a lot of time because triggering the orb hunger is very inconsistent and unpredictable it turns out.
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Thanks for your video!! Got my golden die in a relatively painless 12hrs thanks to adapting this run. (I didn't care about the actual speed obviously, and this was pre patch 7 but maybe my version will survive)
I did it on nondurge, so act 3 looked different for me, and i also recruited gale for the netherbrain fight. (Very easy to find a few magic items to spare so elminster grants you the stabilized orb).
Commenting mainly to mention that on console/controller you CAN make the jump from the top displacer beast area in the guantlet of shar down to the shadowfell door; it just requires very precise camera work and jump timing. Probably less frustrating to 1) drink an invisibility potion and do soft step trial although that might not be as fast 2) misty step the faith leap trial if youre not scared of dying unpredictably 3) or telling yurgir to off himself with charisma checks, but they are pretty high stakes. Then you have the one orb as mentioned in the video.
In act 3 i pickpocket mr red dwarf assassin to impress the murder tribunal and get the amulet of bhaal, that was the major deviation from the run here apart from feeding gale. (Technically i think it's a glitch to mash the pickpocket button to mitigate misses until you roll a 20, i probably had to reload too)
I messed up with the vendor bomb stacks so had to get creative with fire vs ketheric/myrkul. I think i had to let kharnis kill SH too after picking up the lamp. It was scuffed throughout and had to pivot a lot on the fly, but now i can patiently enjoy my honor runs in peace with a gold die. :) cheers and good luck to anyone else attempting to get their gold d20 fast!
Did anything in Patch 7 break this guide? I was about to start a run.
@@jameshope3652 Yeah, the end, you can't use invisible potions for the final boss
@mmujicab.sirius Is there any way you can actually finish the boss then?
@@thegifting267 Yup, being good at the game.
I finished my run using invisible potions approaching the Karsus Crown, and defeating the Brain using my most powerful attacks, X2 potions and a lot of RNG.
If everything goes wrong, close the game via task manager repeatly, deactivate auto-saves.
Yeah, I know, it's pretty lame, but that's the only way to not waste 40hrs of my life hahah
I couldn't do the basket trick, so I just had Shart drink an invisibility potion (I'd bought from Roah in the goblin camp) after picking up the moon lantern.
I just used this video for my honor mode run and it worked perfectly!
I’ll reply to my own comments with some things that I had to change/adapt to on Xbox (in case anyone runs into similar issues) :
- I didn’t need the second speed potion for the githyanki fight, but it definitely would have helped. I wasn’t able to loot a second one due to RNG.
-when recruiting jeheira, she was bugged and wasn’t listed as an ally, despite being playable/in my party. This meant the enlarge spell and the peerless focus never worked on her. For the final fight and Orin toss, I gave laezel a hill giant potion and all the buffs and had her replace jaheira.
-console sucks at point and click mechanics, so sometimes I had to take slightly different jump routes. In the area after you take the boat to the end game area, I had to make jaheira jump on the plant/vine bridge thing and then to the right high ground.
- I recruited astarian so he could pick pocket withers.
- moon lantern part, I sent both shadow and laezel down there so laezel could grab the lantern and transport it to my inventory. Both companions died but withers revive was fine.
- the mountain pass area you have to cast fog cloud and jump around the enemies, but they would detect me nearly every time but if you get far enough away just flee combat and go back to map and you should be fine to progress without dying.
- in the shadowlands, I sent my companions to camp but when I returned to camp they were dead? I think they bugged out and fell to the darkness blight but I would manually go to camp to dismiss them.
- because you can’t reload a save, technically* you can force close the game on Xbox and when you reload, it’ll take you back to the previous save.
- gortash dialogue to prevent agro: refuse to give him stones and bargain with him that you split the stones.
Thank you @ChronosReturns ! Got my Gold Dice this evening on PS5!
A slower run for me to get more cash & using Gale for the ending after multiple fails doing the invis potion route from this video, but so relieved to get it done!
Thanks again!
Did u use bombs on kethric? When I tried it they took like half of his health bar
did you have to get gale to the brain stem or does he appear when you open the door
what about feeding him artifacts
@@blackeyekin9300 I got Jaheira there first, that clears all the enemies on the tower through the cut scenes.
I then moved Gale up there as I didn’t want to risk it, so invisibility and crouch to pass through courtyard area as his jumping was rubbish, which worked a treat.
So blooming tense though! Massive sigh of relief when it all played out!
Artifacts - I just gave him the one - Gloves from the Tollhouse basement in Act 1. Went there to get stuff to sell to make sure of enough cash for respecing characters.
Then make sure to rest to get Elminster before heading to Ketheric. Otherwise Gale leaves.
Then, make sure to have him in the party before heading to the Morphic pools. There are certain chats to have after that to ensure he is up for the sacrifice.
@@wojtekmikoajczak9744 I did - same method as his video. Have you made sure to have the ring equipped? That does the extra damage. Also make sure to be throwing it at the ground by him, not directly at him.
But otherwise the same. Had a few probs with the bug where it blows you up, but think that was when Shadowheart leaves the party it might have been adding her duff bombs to mine? So next run to be safe, I passed them to Gale, and no more probs, just followed the steps.
Hardest part was the Orin throw - so hard on PS5.
@@rhysh7390exactly as you said, thanks. had gale standing at the stem and hit the orb through ability wheel....fml guess I'll have to do it again
did this in tactician for practice and just finished my honor mode run today, thank you for this!! i probably never wouldve gotten the achievement otherwise lol
I'll never understand achievements in video games. They literally are a time sink with zero award except for one you give yourself.
@@RedWolfenstein it brings me joy so that's enough for me
@@RedWolfenstein You literally explained it yourself.
@@RedWolfenstein why play games if you don't feel rewarded when getting an achievement
Just saw your GDQ run, wasn't expecting a shout out to Fauna, sapling represent! Uuuuuu~
Great stuff -- love your runs man. FWIW when you say click here to see the other run I think you forgot to drop a card
Thanks! Do you happen to have a timestamp for it? I'll add it in.
0:31
Thank you for this . Last achievement on the list. Ive had a blast on each playthrough
Did the bombs on Ketheric work for you? They don't do enough damage for me on easy mode
I didnt speed run it. I completed up to act 2 and used cherub mask to complete honor run. I just used some of the strategy from this video. Total game time for honour achievement 22 hrs.
Way to go!!! Gonna have to go watch the GDQ run after this!
Thank you for the brake down i often look at speed runs baffled but i atleast understood this 1 🤣🤣👍
thank you very much mister. i am so excited to try this run
this was great, clean and well explained. also you enunciate your Ts better than anyone else.
Wow. I don't do speed runs but I definitely still learned a lot of tips here
"The Emperor has Chain Lightning. That's like... whatever" - unintentionally hilarious :)
I've been attempting this and for some reason at the Ketheric fight my smokepowder bombs detonate immediately when I throw them, killing my durge and killing my run... consistently happened 2 or 3 times now and I'm not sure if its a bug or something else?? there's nothing for them to hit and detonate on so I guess they're detonating on themselves?
He mentions it in the video but I missed it the first time too. The first smoke bombs you buy from a vendor are bugged. When you buy the first stack give them to Shadowheart so that you don't use them. I just tried the Kethric fight myself and the smoke bombs didn't explode in my hand.
This is why my throw exploses ... At first I thought it was because of my torch in my back, at second I tought it was the air on fire which ignites/exploses them (I tested on crashed nautiloïd) and finally I tested with one less bomb to work and thought my charcater was lack of force and throw on his feet ... No just a bug, not a feature ... sad.
Can someone please explain how he isnt spending spell slots to buff with enhance jump and feather fall? Timestamps such as 7:52 he buffs shart without using any spell slots...trying to follow this guide but keep using my slots thanks
Have to be a ritual magic caster (in this case, a sorceror). Casting Enhance Leap and Feather Fall out of combat is free. If you cast it in the middle of combat, it then costs a spell slot.
feather fall and enhance jump are ritual spells, they don't cost spell slots if you cast them out of combat
One might argue that throwing 10 bombs at the same time is also considered a glitch, but at this point this "mechanic" has existed till this day and they refuse to fix it, so its really hard to define what a glitch is and what isnt. Anyways that were some interesting methods I didnt know good vid
ohhh this was a fun run to replicate, ty for it
12 minutes in and your where I am after 40 hours of my honor mode play through. 😅
Edit*** Checked the GDQ speedrun and now I understand it better! Got to pop em DURING the cutscene, got it
EDIT #2 : Well my PB is now 2 hours, thanks to you! And me doing way too much safety moves.
Thank you buddy, you are awesome.
see, my eyes witness what you did, but my mind doesn’t comprehend
24:30 hi im having a weird issue around this part. i throw the 8 bombs at ketheric perfectly fine right, then when i throw the 10 bombs at myrkul they explode on me and i gotta reload (its not a legit honor mode run anyways lets be honest), anyone think they know why this happens?
the first bombs you buy from talli are bugged and you just send em to camp and ignore them, thats a rip from me :(
Many thanks!
Thanks to you, I completed Honor Mode with my PS5/controller. Thank you, and everyone in the comments, for sharing your expertise and showing new ways to experience BG3.
38:43 just tried. No issue at console (PS5). Had elixir of hill giant. One weird thing is however that if you imagine the pit you threw Orin in in a bird perspective, you have to pretty much aim to the center of the pit. When it shows 'death', then you throw her, far deeper then you should be able to, but it works just fine 👍
what about the moon lantern at karniss? i dont know how to take it without activating combat on console
@@sifvydiv simply sacrifice the one taking the lantern. The other character should be out of combat and take the lantern from the inventory. When Karniss and gang are gone, resurrect your companion
thank you but i have one more question, in act 3 (console) where do you find the second invisibility potion? i cant seem to find it anywhere and i dont remember him picking up a second..
@@sifvydiv 1st potion 10:56 , 2nd potion 35:30.
If you don't do speedrun, you can simply buy more from shop. Important: definitely get rid of the first smokepowder bombs you buy from vendor, they explode in your face. He uses 8 bombs for ketheric, and 10 for phase 2. Make that 9 for ketheric, and 11 for rest.
Try not to get the party dead screen. Normally, you can restart from previous save, but if you play on console, it will put you from honour mode to custom mode (learned from my mistakes). Lastly, disable auto save under options.
Good luck.
@CursedZorthan i completely missed it 😭 i was too focused on where he was going i didnt even notice- thank you so much! i really appreciate the help, you're amazing
After patch 7, you can’t successfully huck the smokepowder bombs at KT or Myrkul from the platform. They hit some kind of invisible wall and explode in your face. You can still chuck them from below the Myrkul spawn area, though.
thanks, found anything else that doesnt work any more?
@@rkn_dev for me personally after patch 7 the smokepowder bomb throw still works so idk whats up with that
This is due to the misfire glitch, you can avoid it by not using the first set of bombs from your inventory. Everything else should work as normal.
Same! Still trying to work around it 🤔
@@ChronosReturns i threw the bombs and they didn't damage ketheric... what gives?
"Then here you just command drop the moonlantern"
*gets it first try in the video on 45% success rate*
*I proceed to alt-F4 10 times* in a row
Anyone know any tricks to pick up the moon lantern on ps5? You can’t move it to the basket, so you have the steal it
@@riversongxoxo9010 Just steal it and let Shadowheart die
I used your speed run as a base to get my achievement. It took a couple times, because I had to adjust to things that didn't work on controller (which usually got me in trouble, like the durge companion scene triggering), but today I finished the honor run. ❤ Thanks a lot
I'm also trying this with a controller, may I ask how you managed to get the moon lantern? I can't seem to drag it into the basket like he did in the video
@@tiredteo You have to sacrifice at least one person. I usually do two (SH and Lae'zel), because it's easier. Do the talk bit with Kar'niss until he starts walking, then get the second person, which shouldn't be Gale due to necrotic aura, (also don't forget the torch to avoid shadow sickness or whatever it's called) right next to Kar'niss. Get into turn-based mode. Use command drop with SH and when successful grab the lantern with second person. You can send it right over to durge in the item section to start the pixie cut scene. SH and the other person will probably be killed. You can resurrect them with a scroll or Withers. I usually do it with Withers, because of full health and I always recruit Astarion for easy pickpocketing of Withers, who doesn't care. You may have to wait to get enough money in Last Light Inn, if you don't have the 200-400 gold. You may manage with SH alone without turn-based, but Kar'niss always picks the lantern up too quickly for me to get to it in time. Hope that helps!
@@tiredteo Ignore that (no offense at all, just have a much simpler way!)
Simply send Shadowheart down like he does and have her pick it up. Literally the second she picks it up, go to camp. The cutscene will play there and you are free to continue.
@@StopReadingMyNameOrElse that actually worked better than I expected it to, I got my golden dice today! thank you both for your help!
@@StopReadingMyNameOrElse No offense taken. Glad that worked for you. Everyone aggroed the moment I picked it up, so I didn't have time to do anything else and had to find a workaround.
I hope other people won't be dumb like me and fail to realize the method for stacking bombs. You have to go into character sheet, select place (bomb) in world, then set them down next to you. Then select throw from the action wheels, select item from world, then you can throw all the bombs you placed next to PC at once.😅
The fact that this doesn't take two hours is incredible... amazing stuff.
I think they patched out the bombs
@@ojyochan Yes, its not possible to throw them the second time. Exploding in hand
@ghoulseizo8952 if i get the bugged bombs I can put them in a backpack and still use this strategy
@@ojyochan you dont put them on the ground?
@@ghoulseizo8952 they still exploded on me
I have done that weird jump in Shars Gauntlet on console a few times. It takes quite a bit of camera play but it’s doable!
When I tried this invisibility will always break once Jahera touches the brain stem at the end, I've taken a look at this and apparently being able to open the portal in 1 turn has been patches out or this is a glitch, also patch 7 dropped as I was doing this so I'm thinking Larian just wants to screw all of us out of doing this
I'll be taking a look at Patch 7 stuff when I get the chance, most likely issues that differ from the video may be from the new patch.
So basically since patch 7 hasn't released on console we're actually at an advantage?
@@TheRealDurge From testing, the only difference in the run is that if you fail casting Command: Drop on Kar'niss you'll make all the enemies there aggressive. Otherwise, Patch 6 and 7 have no differences as far as I can tell.
I'm playing on ps5, and my invis breaks at same time... idk how to adjust the run now so can confirm that this has been patched out
@@LUXKINGDOM I did it yesterday on my ps, you just have to get lucky with the invis
I lost my 32 hours honor mode run because a trap pushed my party off the ledge near the blood of lathander -_-
Possible suggestion for entering the Gauntlet of Shar (the knockback "puzzle"): My typical method of doing this (non-speed running) has always been turn based mode and then misty stepping into it. I have not tried the same idea with jump, but I know for certain that if you've in turn based and just portal directly in you can hit the "Shar button" before the knockback occurs. I just feel like it might be slightly faster to do that (directly jump into it in turn based mode) then the jump to the side/walking the edge (ASSUMING it works with jump like it does misty step). Food for thought.
You can directly jump through with the correct positioning for it which is the fastest way, and you can jump through before the knockback occurs as well, there's many different ways to do it. I just felt like doing it this way since it shows that you can also memorize the puzzle as well.
I'm unable to subtle spell misty step out of the pods at 21:46. No matter where i teleport to, whether its inside or outside an enemies field of vision, combat immediately triggers. On Xbox if that matters. Can anyone confirm this still works?
thank you brave tarnished
What are the changes to this run after patch 7, im hearing theres a problem with the ketheric fight with the bombs, and not being abt to go invisible in the final fight, are there any workarounds that will make this run possible?
Love it, need to get the gold dice myself! thanks
this was great, appreciate it
I finally was able to do this speed run on a ps5 in 1:41:31.45. Thank you for the strats. Just wish I could skip the cutscenes as fast as a pc and stop the timer on loading screens. I'm hoping for a better setup next time.
So i didnt have subtle spell metamagic since u said "oh the metamagic stuff doesnt really matter" and then yes it did indeed matter RIP
Update. Also smokepowder bomb bug hurts hard.
Can you make an updated voice over to really stress the importance to some of the smaller details you breezed over?
This happened to me, too, but I'm training in balanced mode so I just went back and respecced
When I tried to recreate this run, I threw the eight smokepowder bombs at Kethric, and each one rolled nearly minimum damage. His goons then quickly killed us
Make sure you throw the bombs at the ground next to Ketheric and Myrkul, not directly at them.
Love you Chronos
Why did my 8 bombs that I Threw next to kethric took almost half of his hp only?
Make sure you equipped the Callous Glow Ring and threw the stack of bombs on the ground next to the enemy, not on the enemy.
Patch 7. Currently following your guide to speedrun honor mode and I am having issue in the section where you escape from balthazar lab. The enemy placement is different and the enemy that is closest to balthazar ( towards the exit door ) has now increased vision and there is no space where to misty step, they see me right away even with my invisible spell. I literally tried for 2 hours but no luck. Anyone run into same issue?
You have to crouch before casting misty step to get out of the sack
@malgor01 yooo thanks my man it worked first try! Managed to get the trophy yaass
On current version of the game unfortunately, I can't seem to throw the giths into the void in the Orpheus fight
Edit:
Apparently I'm dumb! You are supposed to use Throw action and NOT Improvised melee weapon action. Throw works excellent!
You saved me mate! I was so angry it wasn't working, but it did, sadly one of them killed my durge so I had to restart
Thanks!!!
Debating if i should knock out honour mode with this now before patch 7. Im about to finish act 1 of my get all achievements/trophy run. Would obviously lead to some spoilers...
I was at the end and got both Jaheira and my Tav invisible with mage hand, throw invis potion. However, the game forced Jaheira and tav to be visible after the cutscene. Run over :( Was this patched?
It shouldn't be patched, but you do need to have Jaheira, your Durge, and both mage hands to be invisible as well, so all of your party including the mage hands needs to be invisible
I did it just now, it wasn't patched, at least not yet
@@ChronosReturns thanks for the follow up. I tested this a couple times on my defunct save and couldn’t get it for some reason (both mage hands invisible, both characters invisible still resulted in the player characters being made visible when cutscene triggered). The mage hands remained invisible coincidentally.
I think the key was starting the cutscene then making the character invisible (which you covered in your tutorial series). You were moving through this section pretty quick, so maybe I missed the part where you started the cutscene and switched.
All that to say, instead of the ending you did here, I made sure (1) Lae Zel and Jaheira jump off of the map at the beginning, and (2) that I start the final cutscene before throwing the invis potion on to my Tav.
After I posted this comment I managed to put a full run together :) super appreciate your videos. I’ve always loved speed running but this was the first speed run I’ve ever actually completed. Great work!!!
this is dope, any thoughts on double clicking to sell instead of draging or highlighting ?
This is probably a good option to do as well, just can be more prone to mistakes sometimes imo, but it's pretty insignificant in the long run.
24:50 You can not kill myrkul like this after patch 7
Not sure what to do here...
You can I just did it. My first time I messed up but I realized when he did it he drops the bombs on the ground and then throws them, if you are like me you threw them right from your inventory and they don’t work that way
@centurax4461 they kept exploding in my hand, I didn't realize that the first set of bombs from that trader are glitched
I'm trying to do this on PS5 and the smokepowder bombs keep exploding as soon as I throw them. Is there a trick to placing and then throwing the bombs? Playing on the most recent patch, if that helps.
First stack she sells is bugged - If you rewatch that part he gives the first set of bombs to a compagnion because of that
@@missingn0o don't know how I missed that. Thanks!
@@UltimateZinco np good luck on your run
Great run! I will try to copy it in order to get my last trophy. One question: of I beat the game in Honor mode, will I unlock also the trophy for Tactician or I need do to two separate runs?
I'm not sure but I believe it would work.
Beating honor mode beats tactician, no need for two separate runs. I adapted this run and got both achievements. Good luck!
I am attempting this right now, and just failed the Ketheric fight because 8 bombs wasn't quite enough. I've been had
Make sure you equipped the Callous Glow Ring and threw the stack of bombs on the ground next to the enemy, not on the enemy.
@@ChronosReturns I did but it still didn't work. Using 9 worked fine though. I have also completed my run now. 100%ed the game!
@YouSayRoll I’m having the same issue that you did. My bombs are basically doing no damage, even if I use 10 of them. I toss the bombs beside him and it’s still doing nothing. any recommendations?
@@thegifting267 Alas no. The way I eventually did it was by using 9 bombs on the man and 10 on the aspect. Maybe just try and throw them in the exact same spot? Also not sure if new patch's will have changed anything. Also also, make sure you have the ring equipped as that deals extra damage with the bombs and is super important. Good luck.
I wasn't gonna risk it I used 12 bombs each time haha
quick question, how do you kill ketheric and bone king with a single bomb? do they fell down or something? I throw tons of bomb at them during the battle, and it just dealt normal damage
Think about all the shit Jaheria has been through. Somehow survives BG1+2 and then even survives in a ruthless speed run in BG3. Truly the GOAT.
TOP LEGIT, THX U SO MUCH 😍
Orin keeps respawning in the middle for me, prone.. Am I missing something?
You need to make sure the spot you're throwing Orin is at a place where it says death with it being highlighted red. Just simply throwing off the edge will not properly work.
@@ChronosReturns Took me around 3 hours but I managed to do a full run on console. Thanks so much for the easy dice skin :D
Someone please explain how bro one shot Myrkul
Place the bombs (from item menu) in world. Throw action, select item from world, throw in the fiery ashes from blowing up Ketheric. Very satisfying.
There`s another place you can jump down in the temple, you just need box to stand on, so you have a clean line down. By the way. door with 3 spheres has holes. I managed to blink through it, but I don`t use glithes in my 1hp no dice(=no randomness allowed except initiative) solo tactician run. I`m allowed to see my beautiful golden dice only 4 times in the game, when brain forces me. can`t even unlock stuff)
Hi bro, I'm trying to beat Kheteric and when I throw the bombs they all explode at the same time... Do you know why that happens?
Could you tell me what I'm doing wrong:
In the finale, I summon a hand with Jeyhera and the main character, throw a bottle of invisibility with my hand so that both the hand and its owner become invisible. I lift Jeyhera up the pole - everyone immediately attacks me, but the hero is visible. What's wrong? Or does this method not work in patch 7?
you are bringing the hands into the fight with you and agroing the enemies, you need to drag the hand away from your characters pic so it is a seperate entity. Then wait for the mage hands to despawn on their own once youve thrown the potions and the cutscene will start by its self.
@@dommynatrix8226 Thanks for the answer, but it didn't help. The hands are separated from the characters. I throw potions with my hands so that both the hand and the character become invisible, Jeyhera stands next to the pillar itself. After the hands disappear, the dialogue icon to the left of the character does not appear, and the cutscene does not start. Maybe I'm missing something else?
Heres what i did yesterday and it worked. Get Jeyhera in position, drop the potion on the ground next to her then swap to durge and do the same. Then, whilst still on durge, cast magehand and drag it off you then swap to Jayhera and do the same. Then whist still Jeyhera, click on the brain stem and quickly swap laezel as shown in the vid. Now you can swap to the separated mage hands and throw the potions. Then just wait for them to despawn and you should get the cutscene automatically and the enemies wont be agrod.
@@dommynatrix8226 Finally I did it! I used the method from the previous Chronos video: ruclips.net/video/juqmZ2gP8JU/видео.html&ab_channel=Chronos
I started a dialogue with the pillar of Jeyhera, and switched to the dead Lazel, and from there to the hands, distributing invisibility potions with them. Thank you and @ChronosReturns for everything :)
@@filaksis Glad u did it man!
Hello, when I throw the bombs near Ketheric, it does not kill him immediately whereas in my previous runs it worked without any problem. I also notice that he has protections around him and I don't remember him having that in my previous runs. What have I done that would warrant these additional protections for him? thank you in advance for your help
There shouldn't be any additional protections apart from the new ones that were added between patches 5 and 6, which reduces the damage Ketheric and Myrkul take, but the method I do here should work on the latest patch of the game, so make sure you are doing everything correctly here.
Thank you for your response Chronos. I actually realized that I forgot to equip the ring before. I wanted to go too quickly. Quick question regarding the trophy in honor mode. If you quit the game without saving on PS5, does this cancel the trophy?
@@ValentinRichart I don't know for how it works in PS5, but I assume once you reach the credits at the end, that's when it gets triggered, so quitting the game after without saving should work I believe.
I meant leaving the game during the game.
For example, if I accidentally trigger a fight, I leave the game and restart my game before this fight. Does this block obtaining the trophy?
@@ValentinRichart That should be fine
is there a true glitchless category or is there only "we agreed that this action which causes behaviour that looks like a glitch is ok to use"?
bro i can't fly in moonrise tower from the wooden deck to top floor, the camera got it's limit, i can't do in any angel i tried, can you help me?
Try zooming out to the max angle you can by holding down on the right thumbstick if you're on controller. If you're on keyboard and mouse you just need to toggle your tactical camera by pressing the key which I believe is "O" by default. Otherwise it's impossible to tell without video.
This is impressive and the video does a great job showcasing it, but I'll never understand why people work so hard at *not* playing a game they like.
If I throw the 10 bomb stack on Apostle of Myrkul, the Bombs explode in my hand and I die. If i load the save, it happend all time. I recreate the run often and it happends just sometimes, but mutch to often and i don't know why it happens. Someone any Idea?
I believe I talk about it a bit during this run, during the shopping sequence, where the first set of bombs you buy from the shopkeeper is a set of bombs that will explode in your hand, so you need to buy them then put them somewhere else.
@@ChronosReturns Ahh I imagine. Thank you. see you at sgdq, really cool run. I'm looking forward for the new patch and what new mechanics we will find. :)
Had this problem, too. Re-running it and making sure to exclude the first smoke bombs this time.
Worked perfectly without the first set of smoke bombs
This need a hot fix, this is stupid and kill precious ressources ...
Does this still work in patch 7?
Can't be invisible at the end
Used this to get my first honour completion, as the patch 7 honour changes scared me. There’s two speed potions by the rock near Astarion, u need to succeed a nature roll to get them, plus u can just use astarion later on, for the Smoke bombs instead of a hireling. However this adds more time, so ain’t a good speedrun start but very helpful for a casual completion.
Yes, speed potions by the rock with Astarion is what I used for my GDQ run, it's a safe back up strat. Recruiting other characters is also nice as a back up, but can result in more cutscenes to go through too.
@@ChronosReturns Yh it’s like an extra 4 mins all together, ain’t viable. Just gotta pray for that rng.
this would be a speed run time for peoples character creation let alone the game
Damn I totally messed up at the end, I mistakenly had Jaheira end her first turn, and she was mind controlled by one of the enemies in the turn order, effectively ruining the run...
Luckily, I had a speed potion (I went to grab the 2 by the coast/beach at the beginning) and just used Perilous Stakes on myself, laid down all the fireworks and flew away and let it rip...
Damn lucky for that speed potion... *lol*
Took me 3 hours but "Honour" mode has been completed, and my last achievement accomplished...
Does anyone have a clue how you do the moon lantern trick on controller?
Amazing run, Chronos! Im currently trying to do a solo run without companions :) About the Orin math, what is the maximum athletics needed to get garantee an Orin throw? I play githyanki sorcerer lvl 4/rogue lvl 1 with expertise in athletics and 21 str elixir. This gives me 5str + 6expertise + 1 githyanki boots = 12 athletics with advantage. Is this too high or is it still not capped?
I don't believe you can 100% guarantee an Orin throw, since a nat 1 in BG3 will be an automatic failure no matter what (not sure about this), although it might change with other things around it. The current set up that I do in this run has approximately around a 5.4% chance to fail.
(Actual calculation is 1d20! + 1d4 + 9 DC 17) = 0.05375 or about a 5.375% chance
With your additions, I believe that might make it a 0.00875, so about a 1% chance. (9->12 for the DC).
P.S - The game has a bug that says that a skill check of 0 is needed and will fail occasionally, but that's just a text bug as well iirc, the Actual roll is for a 17.
@@ChronosReturns Thanks a lot for the answer. Yeah nat 1's unfortunately always fail. but with advantage that should be incredibly rare :) Like 1 in 400?
Does invisibility still work on the final boss?
when i threw the bombs at ketheric, i blew up instead :( Is it because i failed atlethics? what are the chances 😮💨
The first bombs you purchase are glitches, give them to shadow heart 😂 then get 18.
@@NakaritoGAME same happend to me. this works
curious as to why you pick DURGE instead of just normal custom character?
Probably because they can enter the last Bhaal temple door without fighting Sarevok
Made it all the way to releasing Orpheus but chose the wrong dialogue option. Need to choose #2 here in order to become an Illithid
Does anyone know why subtle misty step is putting me in combat vs balthazar? I've reached that point about 3 times, making sure i am not in sight, and I immediately roll initiative. I am also invisible when I do it and on turn based mode.
laezel needs to be crouched aswell. if shes not its shift c to team crouch then enter turn based mode.
I cant understand why everyone can open the door at Shars trials with "Knock"... My shadow Crystals are bugged but i also cant open the door with Knock, it always says "invalid target". So i'm locked out of Nightsongs prison..
Sucha cool run
I messed up my run a bit on Orin, I could get her off the cliff and she transformed, so I spent the next 4h running around with the characters not in combat dealing dmg without going into aggro and slowly ticking her hp down xD
Not a optimal run, but I got the achi non the less
How do you get Withers? I must have missed it. If somebody has a time stamp lmk
How do you throw 18 bombs on console?