I got so frustrated trying to convince my dad of this the other day. I love the guy, but he's a boomer that believes everything the news tells him. "The police said it was a B&T!" he insisted. I tried to explain the police also found 3 live rounds, which only makes sense if he was using a semiautomatic pistol. Each of the rounds would be expelled when he manually cycled the weapon. The fact that the NYPD reported they found the rounds and continued on to say he used a B&T... I am utterly confounded by the stupidity...
@SladeMcCuiston Getting rid of the AFT just moves their jobs to the FBI. We need to get rid of the NFA, GCA, and the Hughes Amendment of the FOPA, that way they have nothing to enforce.
@@tonyb8791 The gun the suspect was fond with was 3D printed, not a P80. I haven't found anything about the suppressor, but I'm guessing that was homemade too.
Thanks for articulating for others what most of us experienced firearm-folk could tell from our own "lying eyes" and common sense instead of the mainstream fake-news "reporting". Keep up the great videos dude!
As a young soldier in the British Army, maybe in 1980, I was "volunteered" to attend a fund raising event. One of the people speaking was Odette Hallowes GC, the first woman to be awarded the George Cross and only ever living female recipient, all other awards being posthumous. She had served with the SOE during WW2. Along with a male veteran of the SOE, they were showing some of the equipment they used. The guy demonstrated what I can see from your video would most likely be a Wellrod. However when he was cycling (dummy) rounds, he covered the ejection port with his left hand, tilted the gun to catch the ejected round and cycled it with his trigger hand. He said that this was the way they were taught to fire the pistol.
Yeah, anyone who thinks the guy used an NFA item to commit a crime or he was a "professional" have simply been watching too many movies. He almost certainly had a homemade suppressor on a Browning action pistol without a Nielsen device which is why he had malfunctions.
@@tonypalmentera7752 I think it's possible he tested it out but was simply willing to use a gun that was unreliable. Of course I can't read his mind, but he didn't appear to be surprised or phased by the malfunctions. He may have been expecting them. The Police are saying the gun was 3d printed and it looks like the frame was 3d printed based on photos of the firearm. It could be that the thing never functioned well because it had a crappy 3d printed frame.
Thank you Tim for weighing in on this, I absolutely detest when the rumour mill starts churning.. It does not EVER result in ANYTHING productive nor positive...
I feel like all real gun guys knew this day 1. Fake gun pros are everywhere. They talk too much and are wrong often. The smart money was always on 3d printed lower, incorrectly setup can (solvent trap?), and subs he didn't test in the gun.
I think he tested the gun because he went to re-rack right away after the first shot but didn’t have much training because he doesn’t tip the ejection port to the right which I find most trained shooters do. No tap rack either but he knew enough to smack the slide into battery so I assume he tested it.
Gun is fine, suppressor is fine, Texas Gun Vault said it best. He loaded 6 rounds stagger, normal round and message round. He fired a normal round and then eject a lived round with message, then repeat.
@@MutheiM_Marz The "staggered rounds" theory is as idiotic as the Station 6 theory was. Those were dropped because that's how clearing malfunctions sometimes go. If he wanted to leave live rounds behind, he'd have put them in his pocket.
Now they are claiming it was a 3d printed firearm, because the police now say they found a "ghost gun" on him, but I bet you its actually just a normal firearm with the serial removed. Most "ghost guns" are just firearms with the serial removed, _NOT_ 3d printed firearms!
I found that especially entertaining. To say at a press conference that it was "possibly 3D printed"... like, it either was or it wasn't, was it plastic with layer lines or not, not exactly a difficult thing to identify lol seemed like it was just "oh hey we're in the process of restricting printer purchases, better throw this out there
The fact that they caught a PATSY with a tool on him screams PRO to me, how about you? A PRO would have tossed the tool in the river / a fresh concrete pour / metal smelting furnace / etc. within minutes to get rid of the evidence. No way a PRO would hold on to a hot tool, especially one with the markings obliterated.
I saw the best comment on it the other day. Dude probably had a $400 psa dagger with a solvent trap from Temu. That would explain the failure to eject. My buddy has a dagger and runs a legal can on it. Before they sent him a booster, it jammed just like in the video.
Why would that matter when they knew one had been sold a few days before and the killing did take way less than 20 shots? There are great reasons in both video and comments why the identification was bollocks, but this ain't one of them.
In the video if you look at his shooting hand you can see the slide of the pistol move backwards over the white background of his hand. Meaning it was a gun that cycles normally and not a bolt action like the Station 6
I appreciate the added insight. Great video, as always. I think the next leap for governmental agencies will be to further crack down on “ghost guns.” That has been their focus for some time now.
I don't think anyone who knows silenced pistols looked at the video and thought it was a Station Six. Most of us thought it was a Glock or a Glock knock off (P80, S&W Sigma, etc), similar to what the apprehended person of interest was carrying today.
When I first saw written accounts stating the shooter had to manipulate his pistol's action after each shot I thought to myself "huh, I wonder if he used a Welrod-pattern gun." Then I saw the unexpurgated video and it was 100% crystal clear that the shooter was running constant malfunction drills on a normal semi-auto pistol with an attached suppressor, and not operating a Welrod. From the video it seems likely that the shooter had some basic modicum of range time, but basically zero formal lessons or training. All speculation that he was a trained operative of some sort wal silly.
The gun was working fine, everyone is saying it malfunctioned and jammed or wasn't set up right, theres nothing wrong with the gun or set up, he's ejecting live rounds, there was 3 empty shells and 3 live rounds at the scene, the 3 live rounds had a message on them, the empty shells did not, he had them staggered in the mag, he fired the 1st round it ejected as normal then he racked it and ejected the live 1 with the writing on it, he did this 3 times, we don't see him pull 3 live rounds out his pockets, we don't see him drop anything, and he did not rack the side 3 times at the end either. That's how he did it, so he could leave his message behind.
This is the thing it's not hard to make some form of suppressor, do we even know how loud the gunshots actually were? For all we know it could well have just been a real 'Paladin Press PDF special'.
@@Ryan.90 It was loud enough that people said they heard the shots up to a block away. Who knows if he used subsonic ammunition, but I would guess somewhere around 130 dB for a commercial 9mm silencer and probably more than that for a solvent trap special.
@@JR15A2Might not have just been an homemade silencer..... "police seized a firearm and silencer when they detained Luigi Mangione at a McDonalds in Altoona, Penn. Both appeared to be made with a 3-D printer"
@@Ryan.90@Ryan.90 That sounds typical of something the fake news media would circulate without fact-checking. Real (metal) 3D-printed silencers are relatively new and not very common, so it's highly unlikely that it's a 3D-printed silencer.
@@JR15A2 I wouldn't know, I ment more the gun, few years ago guy here in the UK a guy got caught 3D printing the polymer bits of glocks then having the metal bits shipped over.
His suppressor probably did not have a booster the fits into the tube and threads onto the barrel that cycles the slide. Without it, he had to manually cycle the slide with each shot. He did not fully understand how a suppressor works on a semi auto pistol. With the wipes the round was still faster than a standard 45 Auto round. He used a Glock.
@Militaryarmschannel It's pretty cool, i wish i 'd kept mine when i left haha. No problem mate, great video as always. I'd seen the video here in England, from what i gather, that CEO was not liked in the States. I've heard so many different stories on what pistol was used. I watched someone debunk it being a Welrod haha... definitely not a Welrod.
My family was watching the 24hr BS news when they kept showing pictures of the B&T station 6 and was calling it a veterinary gun.I couldn't help but bust out laughing
@@theotherleft6113 Cover for the real customer who was a European special ops group. I’ve not found any evidence that veterinarians have ever bought them.
Agree with the guy earlier, probably 95% of the people who regularly watch your content already know this but this was a good breakdown for all the "experts"
I’m no gun expert but aware of guns and in videos posted I can see I was a slide action pistol not like what these experts thought no hand twisting was needed to operate the slide.
NYPD ran off their "experts" years ago. It's gone from an extremely rare firearm, to a reproduction of an extremely rare firearm that is also extremely rare, to a firearm you can make in your garage along with a suppressor you can make. In your garage. That last part is the actual truth. How many hours were wasted trying to track down Welrods and Station6 sales?
@no_peace with leaks its hard to tell who is really making the statement. Is the NYPD that stupid, was it a cop that that doesn't know his hole from a hole in the ground, or "journalistic licencense" by someone who doesn't differentiate between one hole and another as long as it gets clicks. Remember the journalist's motto: "it doesn't have to be right, only first".
Of course, you're right! If you get your eyes off the internet rumor mill, the dynamics of pistole training have its own logic of caus and effect! Great explanation 👌
I saw an "expert" on another channel who went with the shooter as a professional, using the B&T. I posted my disagreement (mostly based on tactics). I think your analysis is likely close to 100%. Well done.
0:06 Can I say straight off the bat…, I knew it wasn’t a Station 6 or Welrod the moment I saw the footage.., his hand is too far back on the pistol to be either of these. The grip on a B&T or Welrod are further towards the middle of the pistol and the grip in the video is like most standard semiautomatic pistols…, to the rear.😎
I didn't catch the baffle strike part but came to the same conclusion. Now we know this to be true because he was caught with what appears to be a 3d printed glock. No pictures of the suppressor but im willing to bet it was some sort of solvent trap drilled out with a cordless drill.
I agree with your assumptions. I would go with a Ghost gun and homemade silencer, not a well-made one. The gun and silencer are most likely already in one of the rivers.
Well, yeah. The guy they caught was in possession of a home-printed gun…probably why it misfired… Which is, incidentally, gonna be the next moral crusade - against “ghost guns” 🙄🙄
Which is nonsense because it being a "ghost gun" didn't help him in any way. All a serial number does is help you trace the initial or most recent point of sale. Even if he used a serialized gun, they still would've had just as much trouble finding him. That won't stop them from harping about "ghost guns" and "silencers" though.
So, he bothered to manufacture a "ghost gun" to make it impossible to trace, and then carried said "ghost gun" around Altoona on his person. Wow! Makes all kinds of sense to me in Biden/Harris/Obama/Bush America!
Even though this video is demonitized, I’m still seeing ads. I remember back when jewtube claimed they demonitized gun channels because advertisers didn’t want their ads played on gun channels
Indeed, it was obvious that he was using a suppressed semi-auto, I caught that when I saw the smoke come out the ejection port on the first shot. I have carried and fired semi-auto's and in my early career, revolvers for over 25 years as a cop, carried a M1911A1 in Vietnam when I was humping radios. I know my guns, and hold a degree as a gunsmith as well as a legal assistant degree from the University of North Dakota.
6:55 it did go through my grey matter that he was having problems because the ammo wasn’t “hot” enough to cycle.., ie., using Sub Sonic or hand loaded rounds to try and keep the noise down in conjunction with the suppressor.
The fact that he was racking a slide was the most obvious clue that "experts" missed
I thought the chamber smoke was too
Agreed! Experts my &$$
Police are fairly uninformed about most things. The fact they even knew what a Station 6 was is quite surprising 😂
"Experts." 😂😂😂😂😂
I got so frustrated trying to convince my dad of this the other day. I love the guy, but he's a boomer that believes everything the news tells him.
"The police said it was a B&T!" he insisted. I tried to explain the police also found 3 live rounds, which only makes sense if he was using a semiautomatic pistol. Each of the rounds would be expelled when he manually cycled the weapon. The fact that the NYPD reported they found the rounds and continued on to say he used a B&T... I am utterly confounded by the stupidity...
The NYPD just Googled “assassin gun” and ran with the results.
yup they thought he was some crazy assassin using an obscure and expensive pistol.
Assingun
Absolutely,I just said the same thing then scrolled down and saw you saying the same.
NYPD is a perfect example of DEI in action - an absolute, total, pathetic and unqualified garbage.
There's no one dumber about firearms than news reporters.
It's like listening to a 5yo explain where babies come from. It's hilarious and adorable.
ATF is definitely dumber.
NYPD also.
As well as anti-Gun groups
Love when they talk about those 'high velocity clips'
'Never let the truth get in the way of a good story'....
The simple fact that each wipe is subject to NFA is just another reason to abolish the ATF.
Or repeal the NFA.
@@Del_S Nah, we're aiming bigger than that.
@SladeMcCuiston Getting rid of the AFT just moves their jobs to the FBI. We need to get rid of the NFA, GCA, and the Hughes Amendment of the FOPA, that way they have nothing to enforce.
Repeal the NFA the A,T, and E still do good work just the F that ruins the whole agency
@@maliceharding4668Where does the US Constitution give the federal government to regulate any of those items?
It couldn't be a "Ghost Gun" those are illegal in NYS!
It's going to be a ghost gun copy of a glock and a home built or Chinese sourced solvent trap with no booster.
100% this. The news media loves to use the term "3D printed" too. I can almost guarantee you it was not a 3D printed frame.
P80 Compact and of course it's a solvent trap. The solvent trap table is always next to the P80 kit table. HA! Never a booster at those tables though.
Bingo
@@tonyb8791 The gun the suspect was fond with was 3D printed, not a P80. I haven't found anything about the suppressor, but I'm guessing that was homemade too.
@@tonyb8791 I wonder why he wouldn't buy a booster. It's cheaper than his backpack or his stay at the hostel.
Thanks for articulating for others what most of us experienced firearm-folk could tell from our own "lying eyes" and common sense instead of the mainstream fake-news "reporting". Keep up the great videos dude!
Thank you and thank you for watching.
Since I don't believe anything that they say, I'm safe. LOL
@@robertcalkjr.8325yeah, better keep a good distance to Fox News.
As a young soldier in the British Army, maybe in 1980, I was "volunteered" to attend a fund raising event. One of the people speaking was Odette Hallowes GC, the first woman to be awarded the George Cross and only ever living female recipient, all other awards being posthumous. She had served with the SOE during WW2. Along with a male veteran of the SOE, they were showing some of the equipment they used. The guy demonstrated what I can see from your video would most likely be a Wellrod. However when he was cycling (dummy) rounds, he covered the ejection port with his left hand, tilted the gun to catch the ejected round and cycled it with his trigger hand. He said that this was the way they were taught to fire the pistol.
Early self policing of brass, i'm guessing. Less evidence for the enemy to work with.
They were being taught not to leave any signature.
NYPD should be ashamed of themselves
Ah, but cops rarely feel shame. New Yorkers also rarely feel shame. New York Cops are therefore entirely shameless.
Yeah, anyone who thinks the guy used an NFA item to commit a crime or he was a "professional" have simply been watching too many movies. He almost certainly had a homemade suppressor on a Browning action pistol without a Nielsen device which is why he had malfunctions.
Yup,that was my very first thoughts.
the idea he planned this so meticulously, but never test fired the weapon, seems ridiculous, on its face.
Exactly pro wouldve had a disguise, used only cash...been on camera as least as possible...not left clues or evidence behind etc
@@tonypalmentera7752 I think it's possible he tested it out but was simply willing to use a gun that was unreliable. Of course I can't read his mind, but he didn't appear to be surprised or phased by the malfunctions. He may have been expecting them. The Police are saying the gun was 3d printed and it looks like the frame was 3d printed based on photos of the firearm. It could be that the thing never functioned well because it had a crappy 3d printed frame.
3d printed suppressor
Thank you Tim for weighing in on this, I absolutely detest when the rumour mill starts churning.. It does not EVER result in ANYTHING productive nor positive...
And may have disrupted the investigation instead by chasing after threads and theories based on the false assumptions.
We figured this out from watching the video that day. Glad to know some of us understand firearms and how they function. Great stuff Tim!
I feel like all real gun guys knew this day 1.
Fake gun pros are everywhere. They talk too much and are wrong often.
The smart money was always on 3d printed lower, incorrectly setup can (solvent trap?), and subs he didn't test in the gun.
Exactly 😂
I think he tested the gun because he went to re-rack right away after the first shot but didn’t have much training because he doesn’t tip the ejection port to the right which I find most trained shooters do. No tap rack either but he knew enough to smack the slide into battery so I assume he tested it.
Gun is fine, suppressor is fine, Texas Gun Vault said it best. He loaded 6 rounds stagger, normal round and message round. He fired a normal round and then eject a lived round with message, then repeat.
@@MutheiM_Marz The "staggered rounds" theory is as idiotic as the Station 6 theory was. Those were dropped because that's how clearing malfunctions sometimes go.
If he wanted to leave live rounds behind, he'd have put them in his pocket.
@@MutheiM_Marz That does not sound likely or intelligent to me.
Your assessment was 100% spot on.
Now they are claiming it was a 3d printed firearm, because the police now say they found a "ghost gun" on him, but I bet you its actually just a normal firearm with the serial removed. Most "ghost guns" are just firearms with the serial removed, _NOT_ 3d printed firearms!
I found that especially entertaining. To say at a press conference that it was "possibly 3D printed"... like, it either was or it wasn't, was it plastic with layer lines or not, not exactly a difficult thing to identify lol seemed like it was just "oh hey we're in the process of restricting printer purchases, better throw this out there
The fact that they caught a PATSY with a tool on him screams PRO to me, how about you? A PRO would have tossed the tool in the river / a fresh concrete pour / metal smelting furnace / etc. within minutes to get rid of the evidence. No way a PRO would hold on to a hot tool, especially one with the markings obliterated.
The frame certainly looks like it was 3D printed.
Yes. But the government wants to ban 3d printed guns and ghost guns… 😏
@@Philmoscowitz most Glocks do. 😂
I saw the best comment on it the other day. Dude probably had a $400 psa dagger with a solvent trap from Temu. That would explain the failure to eject. My buddy has a dagger and runs a legal can on it. Before they sent him a booster, it jammed just like in the video.
My Dagger doesn't cycle with my YHM R9 can even WITH a booster....
My dagger functions flawlessly….
Funny how much different information there is out there.
So he didn't use the "Gun show loop hole" because I've heard from tv people you can buy belt fed machine guns and nuclear ICBM's that way?😂😂😂😂😂
love you explaining your reasoning behind everything. so informative and shows its not just speculation
Your assessment seems spot on. Thx for the post/content
Thank you for watching.
Do people realize how expensive and uncommon the B&T Station Six is? Not to mention you only get like 20 rounds through it before the wipes wear out
Why would that matter when they knew one had been sold a few days before and the killing did take way less than 20 shots?
There are great reasons in both video and comments why the identification was bollocks, but this ain't one of them.
Very good assessment and theory.
Smiling dude was wearing a different jacket and a different backpack and the brilliant NYPD believes he did it.
They had to get someone. Doesnt matter who.
Spot on. NYPD should put you on the payroll as a Firearms Expert. !
Most people knew from the start it wasn't a station 6
youd have to be a real turd to go work for the NYPD (or any PD for that matter)
In the video if you look at his shooting hand you can see the slide of the pistol move backwards over the white background of his hand. Meaning it was a gun that cycles normally and not a bolt action like the Station 6
Thank you Tim. Once again, excellent analysis for sensible folks that listen to decent, levelheaded, and commonsensical men like you. Semper fi!
Much appreciated
I absolutely agree with you on this, the plum of gasses is a dead giveaway..
Yup, agreed and thanks for watching.
I appreciate the added insight. Great video, as always. I think the next leap for governmental agencies will be to further crack down on “ghost guns.” That has been their focus for some time now.
I don't think anyone who knows silenced pistols looked at the video and thought it was a Station Six. Most of us thought it was a Glock or a Glock knock off (P80, S&W Sigma, etc), similar to what the apprehended person of interest was carrying today.
When I first saw written accounts stating the shooter had to manipulate his pistol's action after each shot I thought to myself "huh, I wonder if he used a Welrod-pattern gun."
Then I saw the unexpurgated video and it was 100% crystal clear that the shooter was running constant malfunction drills on a normal semi-auto pistol with an attached suppressor, and not operating a Welrod.
From the video it seems likely that the shooter had some basic modicum of range time, but basically zero formal lessons or training. All speculation that he was a trained operative of some sort wal silly.
The gun was working fine, everyone is saying it malfunctioned and jammed or wasn't set up right, theres nothing wrong with the gun or set up, he's ejecting live rounds, there was 3 empty shells and 3 live rounds at the scene, the 3 live rounds had a message on them, the empty shells did not, he had them staggered in the mag, he fired the 1st round it ejected as normal then he racked it and ejected the live 1 with the writing on it, he did this 3 times, we don't see him pull 3 live rounds out his pockets, we don't see him drop anything, and he did not rack the side 3 times at the end either. That's how he did it, so he could leave his message behind.
That's crazy
Stevie Wonder could see it was a semi-auto pistol with a dookie homemade silencer, even from the 1990s quality low-resolution video.
This is the thing it's not hard to make some form of suppressor, do we even know how loud the gunshots actually were?
For all we know it could well have just been a real 'Paladin Press PDF special'.
@@Ryan.90 It was loud enough that people said they heard the shots up to a block away. Who knows if he used subsonic ammunition, but I would guess somewhere around 130 dB for a commercial 9mm silencer and probably more than that for a solvent trap special.
@@JR15A2Might not have just been an homemade silencer.....
"police seized a firearm and silencer when they detained Luigi Mangione at a McDonalds in Altoona, Penn. Both appeared to be made with a 3-D printer"
@@Ryan.90@Ryan.90 That sounds typical of something the fake news media would circulate without fact-checking. Real (metal) 3D-printed silencers are relatively new and not very common, so it's highly unlikely that it's a 3D-printed silencer.
@@JR15A2 I wouldn't know, I ment more the gun, few years ago guy here in the UK a guy got caught 3D printing the polymer bits of glocks then having the metal bits shipped over.
it was never gonna be a case where someone actually used an nfa $1500 pistol in a crime against a civillian
Thanks for taking the time to point this all out. Completely makes sense Ryan!
Thank you, Ryan.
You're right. Good assessment as any. Great show!
Michael Herrell
Thank you, Michael.
You're absolutely correct! Browning type action. No booster.
“When the rich rob the poor, it’s called business. When the poor fight back, it’s called violence.” -Mark Twain
His suppressor probably did not have a booster the fits into the tube and threads onto the barrel that cycles the slide. Without it, he had to manually cycle the slide with each shot. He did not fully understand how a suppressor works on a semi auto pistol. With the wipes the round was still faster than a standard 45 Auto round. He used a Glock.
good point out and very informative!
Nice information, Tim.
Thanks for watching!
Tim, i love that you're wearing a Royal Air Force Desert DPM (DDPM) Smock! I'm a R.A.F Regiment Gunner veteran myself. 🇬🇧
Awesome! It's one of the rare finds that actually fits me and I've always loved DPM. Thanks for watching.
@Militaryarmschannel It's pretty cool, i wish i 'd kept mine when i left haha. No problem mate, great video as always. I'd seen the video here in England, from what i gather, that CEO was not liked in the States. I've heard so many different stories on what pistol was used. I watched someone debunk it being a Welrod haha... definitely not a Welrod.
It was SOO nice to watch this on X and not be interrupted by ads like RUclips does.
I had the same assessment as you did, the first time I watched the video.
You're right on point, as usual. What a surprise.
Very professional explanation regarding this crime.
My family was watching the 24hr BS news when they kept showing pictures of the B&T station 6 and was calling it a veterinary gun.I couldn't help but bust out laughing
I starting to think that there is an agenda behind it.....
That’s what it was originally marketed as
The predecessor of the Station 6 was advertised as the VP-9. VP stands for Veterinary Pistol.
@@theotherleft6113 Cover for the real customer who was a European special ops group. I’ve not found any evidence that veterinarians have ever bought them.
You’ve cat to be kitten me!
Great Evaluation!!! I Stand Corrected. Thank You
Agree with the guy earlier, probably 95% of the people who regularly watch your content already know this but this was a good breakdown for all the "experts"
Another thing to consider is the varying degrees of "professional".
Ask anyone who has had a bad experience with a home improvement "professional". 😉
I’m no gun expert but aware of guns and in videos posted I can see I was a slide action pistol not like what these experts thought no hand twisting was needed to operate the slide.
The guy didn’t look surprised when it didn’t cycle. It looked like a practiced move, he didn’t panic.
NYPD ran off their "experts" years ago. It's gone from an extremely rare firearm, to a reproduction of an extremely rare firearm that is also extremely rare, to a firearm you can make in your garage along with a suppressor you can make. In your garage. That last part is the actual truth. How many hours were wasted trying to track down Welrods and Station6 sales?
How did they not know?! I KNEW lol. I'm hardly even a hobbyist
@no_peace with leaks its hard to tell who is really making the statement. Is the NYPD that stupid, was it a cop that that doesn't know his hole from a hole in the ground, or "journalistic licencense" by someone who doesn't differentiate between one hole and another as long as it gets clicks. Remember the journalist's motto: "it doesn't have to be right, only first".
it’s fascinating to see how misconceptions about unique firearms like the VP9 can lead to speculation.
It's fascinating that I still have no idea whether you even possess a single firearm.
Of course, you're right! If you get your eyes off the internet rumor mill, the dynamics of pistole training have its own logic of caus and effect!
Great explanation 👌
Great video. One of the more perceptive analyses I’ve seen.
Finally someone who knows what they are talking about and can explain (plus show) it without being a ass. Thanks
Thank you for watching.
The MOST plausible theory is he built is OWN suppressor and didn't work correctly.
Worked well enough 😂
I saw an "expert" on another channel who went with the shooter as a professional, using the B&T. I posted my disagreement (mostly based on tactics). I think your analysis is likely close to 100%. Well done.
Mac is the man
It was pretty easy to tell, you could tell the gun wasn't long enough rearward to be a station 6.
0:06 Can I say straight off the bat…, I knew it wasn’t a Station 6 or Welrod the moment I saw the footage.., his hand is too far back on the pistol to be either of these. The grip on a B&T or Welrod are further towards the middle of the pistol and the grip in the video is like most standard semiautomatic pistols…, to the rear.😎
I didn't catch the baffle strike part but came to the same conclusion. Now we know this to be true because he was caught with what appears to be a 3d printed glock. No pictures of the suppressor but im willing to bet it was some sort of solvent trap drilled out with a cordless drill.
Station 6 B&T are sold out EVERYWHERE
They’re stupidly expensive for a bolt action pistol
Excellent job. Thanks
I think you are spot on.
I had a guy tell me all about how Frangible ammo is super deadly and how smart he was for using it 😂
🙄FORGOTTEN WEAPONS,👍👍👍,,,pointed this fact out within minutes of the attack. 🤔
This is a very informative video.
Very informative video
Glad you think so!
News reporters be like "the assailant may have been using an ar15 style weapon" 🙄
Hey Tim can yall do some more pawn shop finds versus videos, loved those.
Dyneema has also been used for decades in high-end fencing protective equipment because it stretches in addition to performing like Kevlar.
I agree with your assumptions. I would go with a Ghost gun and homemade silencer, not a well-made one. The gun and silencer are most likely already in one of the rivers.
They already said it was a homemade gun and silencer. Information about the meeting and those attending was public information.
Good information
Thanks
I think NYPD should have been contacting you to get the skinny on what the guy really used. Obversations well made.
Wow, imagine the NYPD getting something wrong. 😱
From 20 years of qualifications, I have also seen handguns jam from limp wristing or wrong bullet weight example being 180 grain over 165 grain
Spot on!
My thoughts are if he threw in the phrase “ However there are a few caveats. “ he’d be channeling his inner Paul Harrel.
Good video mac - educate the willfully ignorant folks who don't know a thing about guns.
Well, yeah. The guy they caught was in possession of a home-printed gun…probably why it misfired…
Which is, incidentally, gonna be the next moral crusade - against “ghost guns” 🙄🙄
Which is nonsense because it being a "ghost gun" didn't help him in any way. All a serial number does is help you trace the initial or most recent point of sale. Even if he used a serialized gun, they still would've had just as much trouble finding him. That won't stop them from harping about "ghost guns" and "silencers" though.
Suppressors too…right when they have the votes to reclassify them. Very coincidental.
So, he bothered to manufacture a "ghost gun" to make it impossible to trace, and then carried said "ghost gun" around Altoona on his person. Wow! Makes all kinds of sense to me in Biden/Harris/Obama/Bush America!
The police got the details of the pistol wrong? 😮 shocker!
Good video. I agree
Thanks!
The real question is why is the NYPD still lying about it?
you can see smoke leaving the chamber which would never have been a factor had he been using the welrod with a locked chamber.
Even though this video is demonitized, I’m still seeing ads.
I remember back when jewtube claimed they demonitized gun channels because advertisers didn’t want their ads played on gun channels
Gun didn't malfunction......he ejected the "message" rounds on purpose.
Indeed, it was obvious that he was using a suppressed semi-auto, I caught that when I saw the smoke come out the ejection port on the first shot. I have carried and fired semi-auto's and in my early career, revolvers for over 25 years as a cop, carried a M1911A1 in Vietnam when I was humping radios. I know my guns, and hold a degree as a gunsmith as well as a legal assistant degree from the University of North Dakota.
There will be many an old squaddie getting a chuckle from the smock he’s wearing.
When you also factor in the price tag for the B&T of over $3000 Without the tax stamps, it makes the B&T an unlikely weapon of choice.
Thank you, I'm relatively new to firearms and even I recognized many of the flaws this "professional assassin" had.
When the gas came out of the ejection port at the time of firing, I knew it wasn't a B&T.
That's really shocking to have each wipe a registered item.
I personally think it was a browning, he had test fired the gun, and he made a makeshift suppressor.
100% chance that we will get a second run of the station six.
They said on Monday, that both the gun and suppressor were 3D-printed.
It was an 80 percenter with homemade suppressor
Been found
Out of the scope of this video, but I kind of wish B&T would make a modern version of the Delilse carbine.
You and me both!
It's almost like a lifetime of experience with firearms has made you an expert. 🤔
6:55 it did go through my grey matter that he was having problems because the ammo wasn’t “hot” enough to cycle.., ie., using Sub Sonic or hand loaded rounds to try and keep the noise down in conjunction with the suppressor.
Or no booster/Nielson device.
@@jeepinintexas6215 No booster is the answer here.