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How War-Torn Robots Are Able To Transform Into Spotless Vehicles
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2022
- In this video we will be talking about how the Transformers are able to transform into squeaky clean vehicles, while being so gosh darn dirty in their robot modes.
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As a lifelong tf fan, I commend you for making such great content on something most people would get tired of doing. You are a true fan, sir
These movies were my childhood, as well as many others. Though these films get a bad reputation, I try to show and fix the flaws in them so others can appreciate them more since a lot of work did end up going into each film 👍
That’s true. I’ve been a patriotic fan of this channel for a year now and I’m proud of it
@@Theorymus I've been watching u since 2017
theory submit Mikaela in 2007 rides sqweeks in bike mode ,was in Chicago ruins, also had a 3 film gap the is seen very rusty in tlk so Mikaela must know sqweeks existed so what if he went through sad loss
@trans theories squeaks was in vehicle mode in 2007 with Mikaela and Mikaela must've known squeaks existed and our leader squeaks had 3 film gap full of no appearance he was in Chicago's ruins he must've had a sad loss and had to be in the junkyard poor sqweeks he was z good leader
They probably use energon to cover up the grime, the damage and other stuff in their vehicle modes, maybe it's also because they transform exactly into the vehicle they scanned which means if the vehicle they scanned is spotless, then they could only transform into a spotless version of that vehicle.
true bc the 2nd gen camaro bee had was dirty and rusty, meaning he scanned it like that and he either didnt want to be clean or couldnt
@@scoobsshrooms109 also evasion mode optimus prime, tho he would end extrenely damaged
don't forget about Dreadbot from TLK his hippie bus mode is completely covered in rust
And the twins in rotf
that aint how energom works
Realistically the autobots should've scanned more normal and less expensive vehicles if they don't want to draw attention , I can understand their desire to scan expensive ones but after DOTM , it's like they're asking for trouble , the whole world has turned against them yet they still scan these expensive vehicles that they are known by anyways , a perfect example is bumblebee who straight up just doesn't care and would rather be hunted down than not be a Camero LMAO
Yeah but the vehicles do look cool 😭
They should’ve taken a book out of Hot Rod
@@TLN_Nello oh definitely , the autobots all look amazing in Their vehicle forms
But how is hasbro going to sell toys
The cons n bots are aliens they didn't knew about how other aliens treat their inventions but hey its Micheal bay n hasbro right
I honestly still can’t believe that Transformers 2007 is going to be 15 years old this July!?!? Like that’s still blowing my mind considering I was 7 or 8 when it came out
It's crazy man
@@Theorymus Also once again great video, keep it up!!! Also in case you were wondering no Transformers 2007 wasn’t my first introduction to transformers, because I obviously got into it before it came out but from what I remember, my first Transformers toy I had was Jetfire from Transformers Cybertron series!!! But I absolutely love Transformers franchise, but the 2007 film is just so nostalgic for me in general
What?! Wow
@@bfrxcrpgfhanzux Yeah Transformers 2007 is going to be 15 years old this July, I know the rest of the franchise is questionable at best but the first one for me going to be nostalgic!!!! The special effects still blows me away!!!
@@devindubay7911 BRUH wtf is that old? It's older then me lmao
As someone who grow up with bayverse,i always loves your channel,and glad to see you talking about the deep lore of the bayverse,i hope you can get more attention in the future
INDEED
Thx man I really appreciate that
Hi Muhammad
You changed your picture again
@@themanwhowouldbebrick i changed it into g2 jhiaxus (gee,axe us!),because of the upcoming legacy toy
I agree, the instant regeneration isn't possible by any bots, it has to be bay's choice so that the bots can do fancy fights
Not the fighting. Bay’s speciality has always been in filming cars. Scratches and dirty painting would simply make them have less luster and thus - harder to film at night, and more indistinguishable in crowded fight scenes
Also probably the sponsorship thing. Moooore likely the sponsorship.
That last bit reminded me of the G1 line "Can you transform?" To assess how bad an injury is
Maybe the spark is a sort of pocket dimension and it has like a bunch of parts and switches old ones with new ones using the t-cog to tell the spark on how to do it
this theory will make transformers too overpowered
Maybe Transformers need energon to regenerate their scars.
For example: After tf3, Optimus went into hiding and changed his vehicle mode. Then he got injured by Lockdown.
I think Transformers can self regenerate their energon, just enough to keep living, thats why they live for thousands of years.
Optimus wasnt able to self regenerate because Lockdown must have hit a spot in his body that regenerated his energon.
Thats why he looks to busted even in vehicle mode when Cade finds him. But after Cade fixes him, he starts to self regenerate his energon and cleans up his "skin" and changes alt mode.
I thing Transformers use their self regenerated energon to fix themselves in vehicle mode for the purpose of "rebots in disguise".
Optimus was already hurt. The brokedown truck was a disguise itself. He was intentionally looking broke as to not gain attention.
Thousands of years? The Autobot and Decepticon War had been going on for *EONS* before it even came to Earth
@@camrendavis6650 In the cartoons maybe, but in this universe.
Remember that the Primes came to Earth 17.000 years ago, and there is no recorded files of them. No one remembers them.
Therefor that history got forgoten over the centuries. In my personal opinion Optimus is about 8.000 years old in the event of the first movie.
@@michaelwigingtonstudios1320 Bro we talk about theories here. And mine makes more sense. Why didnt Optimus change his alt mode after the battle in Mexico? He was hurt because of Lockdown and couldnt use his self regenerative energon. They knew his new truck form, it would make more sense to change it again. BUT HE COULDNT, because he was hurt. Therefor he was stuck in that form and got rusty over the years.
@@ezioauditore1300 fair enough
When megatron tore the part off sentinal on that one frame it looked like he got torn in half like jazz. Just goes to show how powerful bayverse megatron is
Megatron wasn’t really trying to fight Optimus or Sentinel. Megatron definitely is the most powerful decepticon in Transformers movie history. I put the Fallen the top tier of most powerful character in transformers movies. The Fallen’s death does not count because the Fallen was weakened from the dynasty of primes.
I definitely agree with ya, it’s kinda flabbergasted to think that these cybertronians would or wouldn’t have Deadpool levels of that certain healing factor tbh lol
Another example of cybertronians being able to replace their parts is when in rotf after the forest battle star scream just pops his arm back in place
I think that the reason the battle damage doesn’t come up in vehicle form is because they’re transforming into the vehicle at the exact moment it was scanned so it’s almost like its a locked look but as their body’s are naturally in robot mode they can sustain visual changes like damage and dirt and that returns when they transform
This might be unrelated to this video but I think how ironhide got his scar is with a battle with starscream because he looks more angrier than usual during that scene where he said "ITS STARSCREAM!" (But then again that could be how he acts around all cons) and he acted less angry when Mojo peed on him so I think that starscream might be the reason why he has a scar
I mean, everyone hates starscream, even decepticons lol
LOL indeed
@@ApollonDriver I think starscream should have been a main antagonist for cons the universe humans and bots
Of course screamer is a bane to everything not just ironhide
@@filoz2005 And in most iterations he's been a competent commander of the seekers since before the war on cybertron. There's only like 2 seekers I can remember who prefer megatron and that's thundercracker and another I can't remember.
So much effort goes into making the content. You deserve more exposure bro
Thx my man, I just try to do my best and hope the people come 👍
@@Theorymus you will get more followers. I'm a huge Autobots fanboy. I enjoy your connec content so much. Especially your attention to detail on Astrotrain. ✊
@@UnknownUser-re6yg nice also SSJ4 best form hands down
The regeneration has its own plotholes since the IW comics show Starscream cutting his tattoos onto himself with his finger between TF1 and TF2, and Transformers can’t scar like normal (Lockdown’s scratch is weird) so it should go away, but it doesn’t
Maybe the regeneration only affects crucial areas for a transformer to live
These transformers movies are the best at making the Transformers actually life like with moving parts and stuff, takes real focus and timing as well, I respect that hard work
Their vehicle transformations were clean Although the dirt while in robot mode could have been spotless the oil will clean the rust instead of water.
I always thought about this ever since I saw the scene when Bee shrinks the All Spark and transforms into his vehicle mode. He was clearly dirty in robot mode so there shouldn't have been any reason for his vehicle mode to be clean. I made up this weird scenario in my mind where Sam and Mikaela cleaned Bumblebee in superspeed
Bet if the Autobot Tracks was in the movies, he would be covering up his battle damage in both modes, guys a narcissist after all.
My theory to the part loss in the films while fighting is that it's supposed to be a kind of illusion because you know when two giant metal robots are fighting in the real world, it's supposed to look real and serious so for example if Optimus kicks into Starscream's head of course parts a flying all over the screen because our brain normally thinks ''Oh that must have hurt'' and to make this scenario work even better, they add parts flying of his head but because of the frames moving on so fast and all of the stuff it's happening we just see parts flying and mainly the two characters fighting and our eyes do not try to focus on little details like which exact part is comming of his head unless you tell your brain to analyze this scene slowly and look into detail. That's what I think about why this happened when the characters lost part and they magically were back in another scene.
This is an underrated in-depth explanation in all of live action transformers theories
Another interesting note is in rotf starscream loses an arm at one point and in a later scene it shows him just re attaching it without issue which maybe another thing to point to regeneration maybe when optimus lost his in dotm he could do the same thing they just didn't say it
I always just assumed that the part loss was just fixed after each battle by Ratchet
Now that you mentioned about the regeneration of their parts, it does kinda start making sense (that unless it's just continuity errors)
And when Optimus Prime lost an arm, I always wondered how his truck mode would've looked like without it since his forearms are part of the major parts of his vehicle mode
I’m pretty sure they have some sort of liquid coating that surrounds them in vehicle mode which gives off the illusion that they aren’t damaged and are completely clean so people don’t start talking if the bot or con is trying to hide.
idk how I feel about this - I never questioned how Cybertronians get/have dings or scratches let-alone keeping them in/out their humanoid/bestial or alternate-modes, but I don't like the idea that they couldn't just transform into beatercars or lemons when alot of RL cars out there are "not in the bestest of shapes." I genuinely don't care about realism, but do note it'd be more realistic if they had SOME scratches or if they transformed into Eclipses or Saabs or Scions some other carcompany - or atleast one or two of them. Every Autobot who lands on Earth cannot be a fancy-schmancy supercar or hypercar, some would have to essentially use Jolt's idea and transform into a Prius or Nissan Leaf. Some would probably transform into smaller and smaller altmodes like micromasters, minicons and minibots did.
And, I know Hastak cannot sell Cybertronians that transform into guns anymore - but it'd make sense if there were some Autobots or Decepticons or Wreckers who were targetmasters or weaponizers or "big bots" that just happened to take the altmode of a blunderbuss (like Megatron or Browning)
There has to be variety w/ altmodes, and not only that, but with other things in Transformers.
This was really well done. I like how the beginning is kind of a misdirect to be explained later which I thought was really clever. Also the part where Megatron rips sentinel’s entire body apart made me laugh a little because when I saw dotm I noticed that yeah Megatron rips a good chunk of his torso out but because of you I now know he ripped like all of it out! That frame was hilarious!!
I'm glad you enjoyed 🤘
The change is due to a static forcefield. The whole vehicle is completely covered and has a preprogrammed projection of what the robot looks like in his/her Alt-mode. The complete pristine look is what happens visually. You are looking at the vehicle in an as was perception instead of an as is visual reality. How coould they look normal pafked next to everyday looking cars with battle scars?
When they return to their primary modes, they grow the battle scars back because they are proud of them and they show them to each other and talk about them and are manly
@@Mecharnie_Dobbs Wouldn't that be like Wolverine doing the same thing which can't happen?
I like the idea of having the alt mode be a complete 100% visual projection of the vehicle they scanned and as they transform that projection is disabled showing the real look of the transformer as a robot covered in parts of a dirty and imperfect imitation of the vehicle. So if the projection is somehow disabled in their vehicle mode, it'll look a bit off and dirty with a couple of missing vehicle parts and instead robot parts that seem to pop out.
I always imagined those scuffed up parts were their outer shell while the vehicle parts were placed under them
When they turn into robot forms the vehicle parts have specs of scratches or paint chips so I think it’s suppose to resemble how they look on Cybertron.
Yes, finally, I've been wondering about this for a super long time since I first watched the 07' Film, finally I can see a video where Trans Theories did a theory on it.
For the missing parts theory;
- Energon could be the reason that parts are "regrown", as it's the life force of Transformers.
Starscream is still the same old "Myself over the others" character, so it would make sense that he hogs energon. (The eye could be popped out and retract back in naturally perhaps)
Meanwhile, Megatron survives deprived of it, making the Docs a must to repair him.
This could also explain Sentinel's damage, since he was revived by the Matrix, a source of energon like the All Spark. It could be a sudden burst of repairs to prevent a shutdown.
Ironhide kept his scar to give himself the "tough guy" look that he always wanted since the 1st movie. And his tire could be from a part of his body that we never knew had them.
Does that make sense as a theory?
Something I would like to see is what happened to Dino after DOTM. A direct quote form the Transformer Wiki is “Five years after the Battle of Chicago, Mirage (Dino) was not listed as "deceased" by the CIA taskforce, Cemetery Wind”
Your a hero Trans for explaining this stuff
Anytime man
This is why I always turn on my notifications in case something like this happens 😁
Yessir bro
"People wont wanna buy our cars if they're all scratched up and dirty"
Everyone watching mad max: "damn i want a car like that"
I always thought it would be funny to see optimus try and transform after her got his arm torn off in dotm just seeing a truck but with one corner gone lol
Trans out here answering the real questions of the bayverse props to you bro
Thx man
And explaining them with no issue
What a man
i’ve been waiting for this for SOOOOO long. Thank you for explaining this to me!
Happy to help
it’s so good to see you still making videos. i watched you as a kid around the time when age of extinction came out. i love your content and it’s amazing to still see you doing well
I believe the idea of the Transformers disguising their battle damages can extend to Mohawk in The Last Knight.
This is because we know that he has green parts all over him in his robot form, but when he becomes a motorcycle the green parts (as well as his attached utensils) magically disappear.
I’ve actually been wondering this for the longest time now, I’m so glad you made a video about this now 😂
Happy to help 👍
Have you seen The Fire Brothers' theory regarding how the Autobots split up to evade Cemetary Wind? It involved a cut scene from Age of Extinction set in an abandoned power plant, where Bumblebee and Leadfoot's vehicle modes were spotted on set. If so, I believe you could make a "cleaned up" version of that theory that better aligns with what you have established.
I saw his theory and it's definitely really good I do plan to use parts of it in order to construct my Mexico City timeline
6:52 I always loved how Megatron rips out Sentinel's torso in that scene.
Now I'm thinking about a "What If I Survived - Sentinel prime Edition" but it would be impossible.. I think. You are the smartest man and you can take the MOST hardest things and turn them into a LEGIT video.
Ask Vector Prime actually answered this
Aaaaah,i still remember the good old days when i watch all Transformers stuff,but for some reason i stopped watching it and now i started watching it again. Now I feel nostalgia🤧😌❤️
As an old subscriber I still always and will always enjoy your videos and love your video’s.
Thx for sticking around for so long sir 👍
No problem 😌
I assumed it was some sort of metallic coating that covers the vehicle mode to “seal up” the cybertronian and that coating fades after they assume their robot forms
I'm glad you give the real life answer _alongside_ the in-universe answer and your theories. Using actual behind-the-scenes at 1:45 is great too!
Holograms! So simple yet so sensible. Though this is one of those subjects I feel really doesn't need an answer (it's just film making), I appreciate the effort, and it's just fun to discuss. If the filmmakers could, I'd really like any serious damage to be represented in their alt mode (if they're able to transform after it).
I'm happy you enjoyed 👍
I always told myself that they use some hologram cover for their vehicles modes. I imagine that they can do whatever they want with the "exterior" look of the vehicle, best example being Optimus Prime in AoE scanning a totally white truck and being able to custom it with his favourite blue and red flames!
These videos were desperately needed when I was 14, but I’m forever grateful that they’re here now (I’m 25).
Haha better late than never 👍
You solved a problem none of us never asked for or even thought of but thanks bro
Another good example of why cybertronians can regenerate parts is bumblebee in the last knight where he litterally pulls himself together and gets the parts nemesis prime pulled off of him back attached
This man loves transformers franchise more than producers and directors ever did. Respect++
My view was always that they had 2 states that they can swap between, cybertronian and alternate, which I think are almost fully seperate besides aesthetics. because the vehicle was in nice condition when scanned, they always return to that form when able to, because as you said it wouldn’t be much of a disguise if it changed every time they fight lol, kinda like how the “transformium” can just kinda morph into a perfect version of things because the perfect version is what is “programmed”
When you said a Driverless car would attract a lot of attention, we say in the "Bumblebee movie", the cop was next to Bee as he was chased by him.
I can’t believe that i haven’t watched you in so long, and you are still anazing
we recently saw from siege thoguht kingdom what happens when transformers do not removes the battledamage, and we collectivel agree that it's not a great choise
also, I like the "G1 vision" of intenside physical damage, as in recieving damage that goes above the treshold make a transformers stuck in one mode untill it recieves enough repair. still, of everything wrong that happens to many named bot trought the serie, it's weird we never saw a bot loosing non essencial parts, like a door and transform;
with all of the unnamed fodder that gets blasted, one trying to do the same maneuvre of jazz in the g1 cartoon intro was bound to happen, and yet.
I actually think one of the reasons is when they transform from vehicle mode to robot form. The parts are shifting so much they get scratched up because there are soo many moving parts moving at the same time and touching each other. That's why in robot mode they also look battle damaged. Similar to a human sometimes when you get a small cut it takes a while for it to show similar to transformers.
This is probably the earliest I've been to any video ever
WOOOOO
Hey Trans, thanks for yet another great video about making the live live action Transformers movies making more sense. Also if you could please make a video of What If I Survive about all the Autobots had lived through the finale battle in Transformers The Last Knight.
I’ve had this question stuck in my head for a long time thx for making this video. 😁
There are actually a scene on the first film where bumblebee is clean, and yes, it looks very CG
If you plan on making a video discussing the TRF, I came across a video from the AllSpark TV RUclips channel called "Transformers Reaction Force Data File Infiltration Breach!". The video includes noteworthy information about characters and locations in The Last Knight, including some kind of backstory for Santos. I am bringing this up because people are asking whether there is any possible connection between Cemetery Wind and the TRF.
I always wondered how they navigate while in vehicle mode? Can they "see"? Or is it like some 360 camera all over their alt mode or something? Of course they are still aware and sentient, but how do their vehicle senses work?
I think Theorymus is brilliant, keep up the good work!😁
I been wondering about that too.
This man actually deserves 1 mil for all his great content
Now when my friends ask me why I only apply battle damage to the robot mode, I can just say it's for screen accuracy and show them this video, and totally not because I'm lazy
I have literally been asking this question since I watched transformers for the first time. Tysm
Pretty cool tt I enjoyed understanding why battle damage goes when in alt mode
Aye I think everything is back to normal
dosnt go that fast. it takes days to recover account.
Trans hear me out fam, I love you’re videos sm they mean the world to me I’m addicted to rewatching every video and I couldn’t live in a world without TransTheories!
Optimus/nemesis Prime/Orion pax: "Autobots, transform & roll out!"
Nbe1/Megatron/Galvatron: "decepticons, transform & rise up!"
"How these war-torn robots are able to transform into such perfectly clean vehicles?"
I have the answer: so when they transform their body parts and metal and revolution it scrapes each other and makes those damage
That sounds more like a theory than an answer.
The way they explained Cybertronians as "Autonomous robotic organisms" for the movies, I always saw them as essentially being not just your typical robots or machines, that they are living, breathing, organisms, like carbon based lifeforms, but being obviously... not carbon based, especially if they were created by The All Spark. Basically they truly are "alien" and we may never really comprehend how they operate. Especially when they run on the life force, Energon, that keeps them from, as Jetfire put it, Oxidizing and Rusting to death, so no doubt Energon helps them heal and do many other things. So if they got shot, perhaps it wouldn't kill or mortally wound them, depending on where, but it would heal over time if it was left at one shot, but the more damage a Cybertronian takes, the less likely they are to be able to heal without help, but for robotic animals like Scorponok, it's more advanced, like how great white sharks can grow and lose as many teeth as they want with no fear of ever losing them permanently, or a Starfish can remove limbs and regrow them, sometimes the limb regrows a whole Starfish.
As for the scars, I imagine it's either between Cool Factor, or perhaps it's the Cybertron equivalent of how human skin scars. It's healed, but it didn't heal as it was originally.
Also in the high moon studios games collecting energon heals the player.
BROOOO. I swear this was my theory on this topic some years ago when I thought about it. Nice find and vid as usual.
Thx my man
I always enjoy the video
Same
I've asked this question a couple of years ago, and I still find it odd but funny
I’m sure the cybertronians have regenerative abilities but to a certain amount unless given a good amount of energon. Great example is Prime in AOE when he was heavily damaged by cemetery wind and needed a new alternate look to his design. Though I can say the counter is that we didn’t see any sort of energon in the area. Perhaps it’s just slow regeneration over a given time or using their internal energon storages to help recover some damage.
My guy working overtime to make the bayformers make sense.
Man the nostalgia of me and my friends discussing this back on school...
Hey Trans, I got a few questions I thought maybe you could dive into:
1. What happened to the remaining Autobots after DotM?
2. Where did Hound, Drift, Crosshairs and Lockdown came from? (well how did Lockdown came to earth precisely).
3. Will Cliffjumper ever return or remain dead? (once again... Why?).
4. How did Blitzwing find Bumblebee/B-1 27?
5. Soundwave's timeline during RotF.
6. Why was Steeljaw cut from DotM? (if anyone is wondering, he's basically Leadfoot's pitbull-ish dog)
7. What would've happened if Blitzwing did not attack on Bumblebee and Sector 7?
I’ve always wondered this for a while thanks for letting me know!
This is something I’ve been thinking about for awhile.
* Transformers should do a cross-promo series with more low-cost vehicles or even spotlight more obscure cars. Hell, we could even get figures based on those weird custom vehicles made for Top Gear.
* According to Ask Vector Prime, all animation errors in the franchise are canon. Usually they are just freak causal anomalies that correct themselves before would-be observers could notice. This probably applies to Starscream's eye and Ironhide's tire.
* I wonder where the holograms are being projected from.
* It's weird that Transformers characters never just rip of their opponents' kibble to put them into mode-lock. Instead it usually involves weird devices or the surgical removal of the T-cog. I suppose it is just left implicit.
Maybe bc when they transform the parts are being moved and and the oil so that’s maybe how they are dirty / scratched up also
For the longest time, I did not notice the battle damage, I’m never going to watch these movies the same ever again.
To be honest, those are details that kinda fly over my head.
Love the video keep up the great work.I always assumed ratchet repairs the damage.
Nice to see I was correct about the holograms on your community post! I really didn't expect that.
its also possible that they get the marks from transforming because of how far it goes (like the wings of bumblebee go to the back and the liscence plate is bent) and the dirt marks from oil
Yo my brother loves ur videos. I love u videos. If this youtube channel never existed I would be very stuck to make Transformers Theories
This was something I always wondered but now I just accept the fact that the producers can’t go and scratch and dent up perfectly good EXPENSIVE cars
CGI
When one of the Transformers sequels aired in Australia, Megatron literally transformed into an Australian version of a commercially operated front load industrial bin truck in order to hide from Optimus Prime. This was done primarily for product placement purposes, but Optimus Prime found him despite his attempt to resemble an ordinary garbage truck! Any time these robots transform into a clean looking vehicle mode is for that exact reason: product placement. The owner of the vehicle design wants to ensure people see the best side of their vehicles, and how are people going to see that if it's dinged up and battered beyond recognition? It has nothing to do with the Bayverse, apart from ensuring sponsored designs are shown to potential customers in an "as new" form whilst on screen. Marketing of product, product placement, it's been done in many movies, every time you see certain vehicles in any movie, they're all shiny and new looking, so as to appeal to potential buyers.
Sentinel's torso can only be explained by your recent DOTM video, where Megatron was supposed to team up with Optimus and kill Sentinel himself.
Iv always believed from watching the 07 film was that the vehicle mode is based on the car they scanned, so if the vehicle the scan it’s rusted or dirty no matter what you do that rust or dirt is staying. Just like bumblebee at the start of 07 and prime at the start of AOE.
In Revenge of the Fallen, you can also see Starscream reattach his arm that he lost in the 3v1 against Optimus
I was a transformers fan since prime. I always love to ur videos and you have inspired me to make my own theories on my second channel. So I thank you.
I feel like the track from The Last Knight you use as your intro theme is Code Red, but don't quote me on that.
This really explains a lot in the movies, thanks TransTheories👍🏼
There is also the COVNERSION COG which, if it's lost, they can't change into anything.
If they are transformed into some form(vehicle/animal/human) and then the conversion cog gets destroyed, they will revert back into their original form.