How Belief Systems Work | Episode 1010 | Closer To Truth
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2020
- We like to think that we are rational, that what we believe is what is true. But we often believe because of our "belief systems"-"how we believe" may be more important than "what we believe." Featuring interviews with Julian Baggini, Stephen Law, Patrick McNamara, Gregory Ganssle, Rebecca Goldstein, and John Leslie.
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#Belief #Religion
The hows and whys of Belief should be mandatory learning for all high schools students.
As a life-long seeker of Truth I place Robert Lawrence Kuhn and Michael Shermer up there with the most important thinkers of any era; their wonderful delivery is greatly valued and admired.
Robert, I can't tell you how grateful I am for your work. I always return to you
*this man is the smartest film host alive*
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those who dare not know, keeps questioning
@@TheWorldTeacher Back to trolling lies with this account I see. Take all of your accounts and troll elsewhere.
Hes repeating himselfs. Hes not that smart when it comes to the physics side of science. Thats why he always asks those stupid questions. maybe he just wants to influence the headless chickens out there.
No matter what you know about anything, there is still more that you don’t know.
SIMPLICITY IS KEY AND SO IS YOUR INTENT.
Belief starts as a child when we go to sleep and wake up the following morning,open our eyes up,and realize everything is okay.
The following night we believe the same thing will happen when evening comes even though nature and circumstance have changed all around us.
Much appreciated. Thank you
I like that, while being a theist, his will to know is stronger than just cocooning himself in his belief.
Very comprehensive! 👌😊
Thanks.
Awesome and enlightening ❤
Excellent... thanks 🙏.
Well Made. Thank U.
Awareness is known by awareness alone.
We all are aware, but on different levels, still with the same capability.
Awareness is ephemeral.
Seems like truth is the unnatural stopping point of a mind that is constantly in motion.
@@maxmudita5622 truth is understanding infinity(the feeling of love) accepting it and being freed from attachments of the ego, but at the same time understanding The ego as a tool
Greg Ganssle's perspective is new to me and really interesting.
Excellent episode. So how do we get closer to the truth? I think it was clear that the best approach, while not guaranteeing certainty, it to follow the evidence. And while feelings do provide some evidence, feelings fall on the thin side in terms of support.
Awesome job
The key is to replace the word "belief" with "experience". What can be experienced and what can't.
Objective reality is a tough nut to crack considering the challenges. The sort of awareness this content provides I BELIEVE :-) may be a good first step.
The world affects belief. But as shown by our diversity of belief we can reach very different conclusions, from what we choose to track in the plethora of information.
That interpretation of something varies depending on the explainer and explaineee, is analogous to why different belief systems exist. If we have a supposed ultimate question, the dispute will be on what that question really is. It is important to realise one's own answer isn't necessarily everyone's answer if we imagine a conclusion. The question is more how many people will believe an importance interpretation to agree what the question means.
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Excelllent. I love this series. Thank you, RL Kuhn and the team that puts these videos together.
Unfortunately, in this video, the subtitles are not in sync with the video
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Is that fully understood, LYING MULTI-ACCOUNT TROLL?
Very Good philosophical Debate.
Debate??
When we judge others' capacities, we lessen our own.
Wise Words spoken honestly
This was a good one.
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You mean great not good. Good & bad are objective and when giving your opinion you want a subjective term describing how much you enjoyed it. "This was a great episode."
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Is that fully understood, LYING MULTI-ACCOUNT TROLL?
E.F. Schumacher defined two categories of problems convergent and divergent. Convergent ones allow rational thought to converge independently on the same conclusion, while divergent ones will tend to convergent to different forms based on what core value is used in the evaluation process. He said divergent problems are not really "solved", but created artistically through the synthesis of contradictory solutions, and the quality of solution is reduced if a singular perspective takes complete power. His example was education - which he said could be achieved through caring teachers, or could be achieved through discipline, while either value alone can't define the problem large enough to reach a best solution.
Beliefs save mental energy and help us survive in many ways; everything we are, helped our ancestors survive.
Please make the subti in sync with movement of pictures!
Therefore, what are the logical and rational advantages that influence one's desire to believe or not believe in god?
"We inherited magical thinking as part of the species." I never thought of myself as a magician.
'We inherited magical thinking as part of the species." I think that sentence is followed by a second sentence, "And now we use that same magical thinking to believe elementary particles can spontaneously produce consciousness itself."
Magicians don’t have magical thinking- the audience does...because they don’t know the truth that the magician does.
@@jamenta2 Thanks
@@abritrn Hey Thanks for sharing. I never thought of that view.
Do you think evolution has power to make our universe?
It's not make sense time and space comes by own. Science tell us every creation has course so without course nothing to be exists. Believe or not it's your choice. But believing not dilution . Believing is a fact whatever we believe. But my opinion 'if 'after we're died we are see different reality and creator exists non believers losers and believers gainer because my creator tell us:
Who's not believing me only destination is eternal hellfire. But we're can deny truth.
It's not easy to believe. Read some religious books bible or Quran. And make your decision. Remember only one life we have---
All religious people not polish.
Sorry to say that.
Truth on our hands before to late
Hello Mr. Kuhn, is there a way you can modify this for MM network news discussion? The show is a bit difficult to comprehend and esoteric, however your message Is On Point. i believe it can be reworked to become more digestible for main stream news.
The English philosopher Paul Brunton wrote that religion was created for the masses. For those unwilling to think for themselves.
Paul could have gone one step further and realized that many people CANNOT think for themselves when it comes to ineffable matters like spirituality. They are by innate nature extroverted, seeking all answers to life outside themselves. And before we apply cancel culture to religion, bear in mind that such people NEED an external moral code for how to treat others, and religion (at its best) teaches people to love their neighbor and include kindness and empathy in their lives. Without religion, where do you propose such people get their moral structure, a quantum physics textbook? Pop culture celebrities? Day time talk shows, e.g., Oprah? Politicians like Donald Trump? You have to understand that everyone is coming from a different place in consciousness. To just condemn religious people as being "unwilling to think for themselves" is callous and simplistic in the extreme. They are people who can't think for themselves and need external assistance. Frankly, all humans including yourself need such assistance. I suspect that in your life you had such external assistance. You may have later rejected that particular assistance, but it did make an impression on you that is probably programmed into your unconscious and impacts your outlook and decisions. In other words, come down off your pedestal and give people a break.
ArizonaWillful well said. We are all more fragile then we are even capable of understanding.
@@ArizonaWillful well how big of you to allow people like me, who can't possibly make it through life by simply relying on my own sense of self and mind, to exist and not be canceled. You revealed your bias, your blind spot, right out of the chute when you belittled the notion of ever looking outside of oneself when considering metaphysical issues. Well if you're an a priori materialist, something that is entirely a faith claim and cannot be empirically proven, then obviously there's nothing outside of the material world you can appeal to. But if there is a God, looking outside of oneself for understanding would be very logical, even essential. But anyway thanks for allowing me to exist. I fear the day may be coming when once again the power of the state will be hunting us down. And people like you will be, perhaps unwittingly, part of making that happen.
@@ArizonaWillful you could go one step further. And state all we know about anything is thru our senses but. They most likely are wrong. So ever thing we know is based upon believing our senses are accurate so. The lowest common denominator is belief. Nothing can absolute be proved to be true. So one must chose what they believe.
That would mean there was a system which has been pushed. Do you really think thousands of years back it was easy to just use religion for politics or whatever? There was no internet. It would have taken 100s of years for someone to push the agenda. It’s bullshit what your western philosopher said. Whatever wise things you watch and consume today. They come from other ancient cultures. Your cultures roots are dead. Your philosophers don’t have the capability to understand wisdom. They use Asian and Native American wisdom.
Religion has a bigger purpose for the individual and it’s existence in a joyful way.
We each have a narrative running in our head which internally coherent. Because of the latter we protect it with cognitive biasses.
The latter two fact mean that the narrative becomes resistant to change.
Unless one is able to see ones beliefs from outside the narrative and when one’s biases have been disarmed then they will not easily be surrendered.
Don't pay attention to the "World Teacher". They are constantly slavering at the feet of their gods, Babbling BS and Copy and Paste. May they break their chains one day!
*The World Teacher - Jagadguru Svāmī Vegānanda*
There may be an objective truth but it may not be available to us. Religions can’t all be right be they can all be wrong.
The closest we have come to truth has been through repeatedly testing our beliefs being skeptical of them and checking to see if our hypotheses conform to reality. Science is the best way we have to understand the natural world. We have acquired a great deal of knowledge with a high degree of probability.
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Is that fully understood, LYING MULTI-ACCOUNT TROLL?
good good #ProveIt
If it has anything to do with words then "The Tyranny Of Words" by Stuart Chase (1938) might be of help
Greg Gansslle perspective was the most insightful and interesting
Beliefs are just opinions; and we know what opinions are like.
My wife died 6 months ago, and I can say for sure my belief systems have been disrupted, for sure.
your youtube videos is messed up man..
I have a belief system that prevents me from believing in God as a scientist
@@mustafaelbahi7979 Not every scientist is an Atheist.
@@jamenta2 Do you accept that atheism is a belief system?
@@mustafaelbahi7979 Yes. Atheism is not based on scientific proof. There are still many open Metaphysical questions that Science has not resolved.
Believes ....We must examine this word and it’s meaning as biology mechanisms .....🙏🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻
I should have consulted for this project.
16:23 You got Zach Galifianakis on the show and he's now a theist and a scientist. Who'd have thunk it.
Flat earthers are a perfect example of a number of people who believe something to be true and correct with the ability to justify their belief with a 'flatearth' logic that makes their belief real to them. I challenge any flatearther to craft a working model of the system we live in (sun, moon and all planets orbiting the sun) and then demonstrate how their system works making sure that seasons, poles, tides, deserts, tropical areas and non-tropical areas exist and function in a flat earth system. And I do mean a physical, working model of the sun, earth and its moon as well as all the other planets Mercury to Pluto. Would be most interested to see it in physical, working form.
We are not hardwired for ultimate reality, which we obviously cannot perceive in any straightforward way. We are hardwired for meaning, and given our social nature, social meaning. It is often more expedient to believe what everyone else seems to believe. Our brain fools us into believing these correlate to ultimate reality.
Hey ZW... I like you comments. I think we were originally "hardwired" to have a relationship with God. But something went wrong. So, like you say, we "cannot perceive in any straightforward way."
Educational and informative. 25:04 Hello Camera Person.
A belief system is a construct which serves many purposes. It is part of a social language which not only helps convey a conception of how the world works, but provides for a means by which individuals can collaborate. It serves the mind's purpose for parsing experience by recognizing salience and conjointly for defining meaningful action and for addressing the challenges of the current epoch of human civilization as currently recognized. As a construct, it's terminology must be anchored in the reality beyond our mind to which our mind refers by having constructed an internalized model of our experience of how the world works with ourselves as the central actor. Those anchors, however, have been placed selectively within a multidimensional universe attending only to those features and parameters which matter to our interests and purposes. A formal belief system is an intentional, internally coherent construct which provides ultimate answers of how our universe begins, ends, and conducts itself in between, and why. It attempts to identify and address existential conflicts typically not by precise prescriptions or instructions, but metaphorically to sketch out the solution space and not to ignore the complexity inherent in chaos, but to point out the truth there and sometimes general guidelines.
Very enlightening.
Often times I would appreciate hearing opposing views encounter one another. e.g. Julian, Stephen or Patrick confronting Greg
Aren't they in Dr Logue's Office from the movie ''King's Speech''?!
Both sides are true and can err when taken to extremes. We are always reasoning thus we are being reasonable in that sense. Even the good man hurts and destroys something or someone somewhere while doing good.
24:35 "Bubbles of belief." This is almost the exact phrase I had come up with a few months back thinking about these issues. I had imagined bubbles of meaning. I approached a few liberal Christians with it. They hadn't ever thought about it in such a way before. Either had I. I thought it was a unique perspective. Turns out I was wrong. Lol.
More and more I am convinced that the philosophy of Taoism answers all of these problems. Not in some absolute way, but it allows me to embrace the whole, accept my place within it and rest. All this searching in in vain. A simple, unassuming life, raising a family seems to be nature's way. Very few of us will be kings, but modern society tells us we all can be. This is one belief system that needs to be knocked down. Individualism gone awry.
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Is that fully understood, LYING MULTI-ACCOUNT TROLL?
Doesn’t matter what you believe; as long as your beliefs don’t cause your demise.
All beliefs only exist in a mind; none are really true or complete but most are good enough to help us navigate the world; we can never know the truth, we can only get closer to truth.
We gathered from others
everyone operates on a belief system. one has to. it could be a materialist belief system. a capitalist belief system. a marxist belief system. a christian belief system. the truth is we have no idea what is going on in ultimate reality, but we cannot operate in a state of utter confusion. we therefore have to create belief systems just to function. everyone gets threatened when their belief system is challenged bc it is the ground of their "reality."
Very good point.
An interesting aspect not mentioned fully is cognitive dissonance. There were a few examples suggesting this concept. The ability to be able to reject incontrovertible evidence because it goes against the persons belief system.
Hey Penultimate... very interesting. Can you explain more?
@@johnbrzykcy3076 well Wikipedia can probably do a better job than me.
In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance occurs when a person holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values; or participates in an action that goes against one of these three, and experiences psychological stress because of that. According to this theory, when two actions or ideas are not psychologically consistent with each other, people do all in their power to change them until they become consistent. The discomfort is triggered by the person's belief clashing with new information perceived, wherein they try to find a way to resolve the contradiction to reduce their discomfort.
@@penultimatename6677 Hey thanks for sharing that information and your time.
Life and death, where does imagination and will originate are triggering questions. One cannot expect one set of belief to be true at all times.
Complicated recipes that humans create for the very strong innate desire for self preservation. Ultimately of course one believes it would be best to live forever.
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Is that fully understood, LYING MULTI-ACCOUNT TROLL?
the question should be where do believe cames from?, looking at the source, will define the truth.
I think Quine gave s good account for this question.
Belief can only exist in the absence of knowledge and I've noticed that the majority congregation of many churches are those with more of a metaphorical, right brained bent.
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feelings, nothing more than feelings: people need to believe in belief, so weird.
If what you say is true then the only thing that is weird is you if you regard yourself as an exception. In short, it seems to me that if you think that what you say is true then you are an exception to the weird. Which leaves me wondering, are you exceptionally weird ?
Belief is rooted in all humanity. It is real as the water you drink. Shalom
Maybe Untrue Belief systems can be justified if the Truth is too painful to endure!
...because sometimes living is better than ending ones life.
When he says the 'table' is reliable this is a very narrow sense of reliability. For example can you rely on the 'table' when you are dreaming at night or if you are on your death dead or exhaling your last breath,what will the 'table be when your body dies? Our consciousness is a knowing substance that is yet to be transformed into one substance and retains many motivational states that are in some conflict with each other. Most of the people, if not all, he interviews do not understand the science or experiential knowledge of alchemy of how the substance of the mind can be distilled into a coherence that can see how the opposites of perception can be fused into the wholeness by resting in the unknown of the one aside from which there is no other. It is just yet to be transformed thought-form that sees the many and does not see the origin of the many.
I want to believe
The truth is that this video is way scarier than actual scary movies.
reasoning methods for who who earns what are a belief system.
“Part of the perfection of existence is the existence of imperfection within it, were there no imperfection, the perfection of existence would be imperfect.”
-al-Shaykh al-Akbar Ibn ‘Arabi
We all have contradictory beliefs.
Lets face it, millions of people woke up today un Iran, Cuba and North Korea and DID NOT conclude they were living in a wrong belief system. Whether you judge another belief system right or wrong, they still hold survival value.
Why does it matter what anybody believe in, it's not like other people's thinking can affect me directly. We all believe in ethics, so we can choose what to do with our lives independent from others. It's just more fun if we share our experiences with others, perhaps they'll find them interesting and will be inspired for creative actions.
Entire history is based on false believes and self illusion of great man and whole nations. It seems many of their believes were fulfilled only to be totally shattered by next generations. This is how civilizations grow, by learning from experiences and mistakes of others. History is a myth we maintain for future generations, it's stories based on real events, simplified, purified and censored to accommodate believes of the present. Nobody need to know how many times Napoleon has to go to toilet during his battles, certain details can't change importance of his deeds. Sam apply to all historical figures, none of them went to toilets or at least history didn't record those event.
Why is religion alive, it seems we must believe in something beyond physical and biological reality. We must believe in something or this life would be free for all, without any social or moral obligations. Can't share everything, certain details are for no use to others. And we can't share the truth, because truth is nonsense, not meant to be understood and exploited by any special species. This is why we are destined to share certain set of believes, nobody wants to share emptiness, suffering and misery.
Here's one of the strongest believe systems, nobody is allowed to mind his own business, since you can't just go somewhere you like, erect a house, build weapons, hunt for food, search for clean water and find mate to have babies.
Belief is actually all anyone has, perhaps some are more useful but that is about it.
Evolution has ingrained us with beliefs that were once (but not always) useful and now we must grow beyond them.
@@nathanwood5977 it is not useful to pretend that we will be able to move past beliefs. We have no direct access to the external world and we will never have anything other than beliefs. Especially on complex topics like ethics.
@@brianbob7514 Not sure what you mean by external world? You mean reality?
nick woodruff yes, we have no direct access to reality. Our senses are not reliable. We have made progress but as we do the amount of things we don’t know seems to grow. Unfortunately, all anyone has is beliefs. Perhaps some are more justified but none are really true. The only things we have that are absolutely true are creations of our own mind, logical tautologies like statements in mathematics .
nick woodruff also, you have no ability to judge what is in our best interest as a species. Well, you are in no better place than the rest of plus. It is just as likely that modern constructions like human rights and democracy are bad for our species survival.
So Mr, any CLOSER TO THE TRUTH?
Many people do bad things, because of beliefs...it doesn't mean you're right just because you believe it...
Here's the thing: reasonable people are drawn at first to an agnostic center and yet, people *reside* at various dogmatic extremes. Residing at an agnostic centre, one has a chance to feel through all of the facts toward ... truth but; i find most people at one dogmatic extreme or another with only one thing in common; ridicule for the one resonable postion when one does not know. That's social pressure and, most people succumb.
Human spirituality is grounded on litugical success: religion is about politics.
To believe is a matter of the ability of believing, it is organic based, but by the growing Intelligens We will gradually leave this ability as will become inactive by the natural development. So , if You still have this ability You might believe in anything, even You call your self religious, atheist or scientist.
Break down of the 1st philosopher's argument against religion:
1) there are incompatible religious experiences reported from all around the world: I guess this means that there have been completely different experiences in different times and different places, which is true; howver though, I cannot see how two different religious experiences are incompatible. Different does not mean incompatible, so that does not really stand from my point of view
2) We have to ask ourselves if those strong feelings can be trusted as much as our basic perceptions: this seems to imply that because our basic perceptions are very obvious and undeniable, the more subtle or "subjective" experiences (not objectively obvious) are unreal. That is not actually a logical argument either. These two things are not mutually exclusive.
I think he is a good example of someone that likes things simple, ubvious and undeniable, which seems to suggest he does not enjoy the unkown and the mysterious. He needs things to be certain to feel safe.
Just my personal opinion! I had such high expectations from a conversation with a contemporary philospher...
I personally "believe" that everyone who claims to believe in god is lying.
I wonder if everyone who claims to believe in NO god is lying? So then Christians really are atheists and atheists believe in god?
why do you believe that people believe in god are lying?
"Who is rational and who is not" - that would be computers then people... but there is still time...
Well, the interesting question is not "how", but "why"... ? Answer : To enhance the group's force and cohesion. It's obvious that you need a common belief system to enable a group to act, and individuals to benefit from the group's force.
That's the not so interesting question honestly.
@@pierrestober3423 Of course it is. My answer explains the purpose of a belief system, which can help understanding why it's hard to fight.
@@laurenth7187 No, it doesn't explain anything. Imagine looking at a car engine. Why does it work that way ? Because it enables me to go to places. The answer is trivial and only requires to look at it in a superficial manner. To truly understand an engine, you have have to understand how it works. You have to extract the principles upon which the engine relies. Only then are you able to modify it or use those principles in a separate instance. By asking "why" you cannot do such things.
@@pierrestober3423 It does, but you don't like the explanation. The ,"why" question is pertinent regarding ethology, ie darwinism.
@@pierrestober3423 I know how it works, i'm graduated in psychology. It doesn't interest me how it works. But no one ever ask why. That's why, why is the only interesting question, because no one thinks about it, no matter your example. Durkheim tried an explanation but he was only a sociologist, he didn't care for ethology. But he noticed that religion helps to avoid suicide, and even more in catholicism than protestantism. Imho, religion is an adaption to the world, as anything else.
Actually, water can still be liquid at 0 degrees centigrade until all the latent heat is removed.
First believe and work, if I say doesn't work.
I believe tea and eggs makes a nice breakfast
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Unfortunately we are incapable (hopefully yet) to see reality through the lense of data and information.
And unfortunately we are running out of time.
“ In man there are two natures; his spiritual or higher nature and his material or lower nature. In one he approaches God, in the other he lives for the world alone. Signs of both these natures are to be found in men. In his material aspect he expresses untruth, cruelty and injustice; all these are the outcome of his lower nature. The attributes of his Divine nature are shown forth in love, mercy, kindness, truth and justice, one and all being expressions of his higher nature. Every good habit, every noble quality belongs to man’s spiritual nature, whereas all his imperfections and sinful actions are born of his material nature. - Abdu’l-Baha, Paris Talks, p. 61.
The true seeker tries to aspire, always, to that higher nature.”
Owen Wilson believed he’s an Englishman 😅😂
I don't think science is a belief system like theology.
Science is more a belief system, than religion...
@@buddhaneosiddhananda8499 yes. I've realized that now.
I DON'T HAVE TO WATCH THIS TO KNOW THE OBVIOUS ANSWER... RIDICULOUS! MY GOD.
The more I learn about beliefs and human cognition, the more I suspect traditional philosophy led us to erroneous ideas about it.
For example, I strongly suspect the traditional view of knowledge as a subset of belief to be exactly backwards, with beliefs being in fact subsets of knowledge, as counterintuitive as it may sound on first reading.
What makes me think this is primarily how I now understand 'knowledge' to be cognitive models, that our brains form to organise discrete and structured data-driven models with predictive power.
In turn, beliefs are 'meta-cognitive models' that our brains form to make the cognitive process seemingly more efficient, these are rules of thumb helping speeding up cognitive model making and thus saving up a lot of brain power. Problem: in many cases social environments can and will foster "junk beliefs" that serve a purpose, yet nonetheless end up being extremely wasteful in brain power and thus counterproductive.
But business as usual keeps going because belief-making still represented a net evolutionary advantage over species with no meta-cognitive models doing a lot of work for them. The whole "ready-to-think" problem with belief systems? Yeah, it's a feature, not a bug. This begs the question though: it was evolutionary advantageous in our primitive environments, but are belief systems still as useful now as they used to, or are they now vestigial cognitive structures that are more of a hindrance than a beneficial tool?
I must commend you for striving to be fair and balanced to all sides of this very important issue. As a convinced Christian and apologist, among other things, for the classic augustinian and anselmian epistemology--credo ut intelligam (I believe in order to understand) I never felt like you were just out to attack my belief system as utterly off the table of legitimate scientific and philosophical consideration. Well that said, I think you would have done well and would have produced a better video if you had spoken with one of the many Christian philosophers that are now everywhere in peer-reviewed academia, particularly in the philosophical arena.
He often does. Seems in this case he wanted to privilege perspectives outside of obvious belief systems (though obviously I think even atheism is it’s own sort of belief system)
Liturgical success in an incoherent belief system means abandoning some or all and modifying what might remain. Intead of believing an impossible man did impossible things; why not move a mountain?
It’s seems a paradox, that a man who is a non believer speaks of others who have beliefs...still, there is something there, but its more to do with consciousness then science or religion. Another realm. One that for the human race very few can reach. We are not meant to. Humans operate from a position of secretes. It’s as though we are kept there.
Belief is what? Is it trust in the past? Trust in the future? Is it a kind of judgement? A judgement that we make that involves trust? Or is it not something we make, but something natural that exists that we can take part in by not judging: by suppressing thoughts of a certain kind? Is belief active and proactive and requires judgement, or is belief only active when we suspend judgement?
Conviction is the evidence of belief. It is produced when beliefs are tested against the world. Does it give one power over other beliefs? For example religious conviction, atheistic conviction, scientific conviction. Each of these convictions are based on beliefs that they say are different but are they? All three would say that the others hold no power over them: that they are more valid than the other two. But what does that mean, is that true? If an atheist is right why do religious folk exist and thrive? Judging by popularity religious belief is more powerful than the other two. But popularity is not what gives either 3 conviction.
Is belief a way of judging the world and yourself or just a way of viewing? Certainly conviction is a way of being in the world.
Hey Kallian... your viewpoints are very interesting and they inspire one to think. You certainly have a lot of questions in there.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 What do you think belief is? A way of thinking that changes how you judge things. That makes you accept certain things and reject certain things?
I don't find a conclusion or answer to any of his videos.
They provide the argument for you to think and draw conclusion yourself. Otherwise so called answer will be his opinion!
Kuhn was awarded the China Reform Friendship Medal by President Xi Jinping and Chinese leaders at the celebration of the 40th anniversary of China’s reform and opening up (December 18, 2018). Does this partnership continue today? Very unsettling.
Your beliefs should make you feel good about the world and about yourself; otherwise, they drain you of your life force.
You believe something & you think it's true. (26:46 min of video with old people from the 60' if not 50's knowledge & understanding ) = 35 words in the first lines of this comment. Wow.. study 50 more years.. you guys rule!
If anyone says to you “this is how you must believe” regarding things that cannot be proven, you can ignore them and follow your own reasoning about those things. I’m tired of many atheists saying that believing without evidence is foolish and you should just say I don’t know and I’m tired with theists for not just saying their beliefs are completely subjective and unprovable. Regarding things that can’t be proven or falsified, I’m happy to tentatively believe or imagine whatever I desire, but in the set of provable things, that is where I demand evidence.
Every single episode includes the word "fundamental".
@@TheWorldTeacher Define "slave", false teacher. No need, I see the definition in your actions on here. Chained and controlled by the gods of Babbling BS and Copy and Paste.
@@TheWorldTeacher Take all of your accounts and troll elsewhere.
Is that fully understood, LYING MULTI-ACCOUNT TROLL?
Belief Systems---Spirtitual Systems.
To say that with mankind, because throughout the world, there are major contradictions between various experiences of the Divine; therefore all those experiences are highly unreliable is void of logic and highly naive. It would be more suspect of some cosmic matrix, if everyone had near identical spiritual experiences. God is not a tyrant nor an egotist. God allows you to interpret encounters with the Divine in ways that make sense with your own concepts and your own current mental container capacity. A Creator of love will respect everyone's free agency, will not insist that everyone conceives an identical profile or cosmology of Deity. A Creator of love will also have an adversary who is more than willing to distort all concepts of our Creator in every way possible. One thing that can be said about God allowing the diversity of faith, is that God is more interested in each individual personal pace of development than in everyone getting His name right. The God of Abraham also often provides anointed spokes persons to help clarify the Divine program.
ROMANS 11:34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? Or who hath been his counseller?
I had a visit from a couple of Jehovah Witnesses who wanted to talk about the Bible.
I said that according to the Bible, many people climbed out of their graves and walked into town.
The woman said, "That's not in the Bible !". The man asked me for chapter and verse. They looked.
"They were saints !" she announced triumphantly and walked away (Matthew 27:52-53).
Jehovah Witnesses are conscientious objectors. I direct them to the Book of Joshua for how their God thinks about war.
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That book tells to story about how the Hebrews continued on their journey to the promised land.
Apparently they needed encouragement and they got it from their god, with one small condition...
"Make thee sharp knives and circumcised the children of Israel the second time !" (5:2).
Personally, I'd rather be a conscientious objector.