Just in case you were a little confused, the part where I was going IN on the ending was mainly from my initial reaction after reading the manga but honestly the anime ending was pretty good and I think even since recording and editing this that I like it a lot more than the manga. Thanks for Watching!
Isayama literally used the central character Ymir Fritz as plot device in worst way possible, and Eren contradicted his own character. The Alliance is cringe to begin with, and the humanity is not acting how real humans act. Moreover, there are tons of plot holes and unexplained things, and by the end the power system of the lore just messed up and showed anything... literally anything.
@@itskish204 Well I would have focused more on covering plot holes with valid explanations and build better plot twists. First of all I would like to improve Ymir's motivation, she didn't loved King Fritz, but her daughters. As far as we see Ymir's character, she is also a kind person to free the pigs. So the key to end the curse was to take her motivation towards true love, being kind to living beings, and to struggle for freedom. Here I also try to emphasize Karl Fritz and the Tyburs role a lot sensible, as Karl also intended to end the Titan Curse in my story by looking forward in time and several iterations of actions. That's why he would have made the world to complicated because although Ymir needs to end the Titan Curse, but she was somehow bounded to King Fritz, not because of love, but because she was unaware that she could rebel against him. But Karl Fritz did not knew how to end the Curse so he left that to the fate, and eventually Eren became the Chosen one Here I would like to add multiverse thing, which is caused by Mikasa's desire for happy ending. In first timeline she would persuade Eren to live with her in Cabin, but in my story, Eren would have taken his friends with him as well and erased their memories to live at the Cabin island peacefully. They be like "We can only find peace where our loved one are with us" And here Ymir would be motivated to life up the Curse by Eren and Mikasa's believe. However, the Paradis Island and Marley would be in conflict and eventually they would be engaged in a fierce battle, which would make Eren and Mikasa to regret what they have done, they had responsibility over their people. That would eventually cause the beginning of second timeline In second timeline, everything would be like canon story, only difference would be that Armin was the one to motivate Ymir to show sympathy towards living ones during his talk with Zeke in Paths. However, Eren would be there to signal that it could lead Paradis doom. But Ymir was inspired by Armin and lift up the Curse. Now the tragic part, Eren and the alliance would ultimately be killed either by Marleyans or Yeagerist. Come on! They are humans, revenge and devotion towards their own race was in their mind, so this makes a lot of sense. Now, Levi and Mikasa were only survivor, while the Yeagerist would go to conquer the ravaged world for their Eldian Empire. By time, Levi would also be hunted down because he was not in good position. At the end, Mikasa would dig the grave of Levi and her desire would reset the timeline, starting third universe Now in this universe, Eren is wild and fully motivated to end the cycle of hatred, and for that he sacrificed his humanity and love towards his friends. He would make sure to save Erwin and not Armin, while cooperate more with the worst girl Historia. Eren would suggest Historia to get pregnant, to reincarnate Ymir Fritz as her daughter. Here also, the alliance would be formed because Erwin would oppose full scale Rumbling and would confront Eren, but they would have talk regarding failures of previous timelines and so Erwin would give an idea, to turn all Subjects of Ymir into Wall Titans to finish Rumbling. Later, Erwin and Historia would rule over the Eldians all over the Earth. There would be conflicts, but not as major as war or foreign invasion. Meanwhile, Eren with scarf around his neck would travel all over the world, to fulfill the dream of Armin. Later, Eren would grew old and bitterly cry over letting Mikasa and Armin die. His desire to live with his friend would return back to first timeline. Thus the timelines were in cycle and it was made because in no universe the protagonists got satisfaction.
@@annett_55555 By friends I meant all his friends, which include Historia also, ofc she is also his friend, they trained for years!! And Eren said he wanted to save her from the mess. Yeah I know it would be a little bit difficult because she is queen of a nation, it's not easy to run away with her somewhere. But we know how far could Eren go to achieve his goals, like he did to reach in Marley and orchestrated Raid of Liberio in the original story. And in my version of story, his only aim is to save his friends, not an entire race which could bring worldwide conflicts. Moreover, the situation of missing a Royal blooded queen and the Founding Titan would lay the roots of the turmoils in the first timeline.
@@jaipandey7142 your response has nothing to do with my comment. To ensure his friends can run with him eren needs to make contact with his brother. That's what I'm saying
It’s obvious to me as someone who’s been reading the manga since 2014 that something seriously went wrong with this last act of the story. Previously more or less everything that happened felt natural and justified but everything that went down in the last three volumes just comes out of left field with absolutely no buildup or development. Eren’s friends all of a sudden deciding to be buddy-buddy with the people that murdered their friends and family, Eren’s love for Mikasa, Zeke’s motivations going out of the window, all this utopianism at the very end, and lastly Eren’s character as a whole. It’s obvious to me that there was some different ending in place planned, it got scrapped for whatever reason, and the ending we got didn’t gel well at all with the rest of the story as a whole. It’s not the worst ending ever, but yeah it’s pretty fucking abysmal especially when you compare to what preceded it.
@@GojoTheHonoredOne9facts they want him to be some hardened badass but he was putting on a facade and he held that in for years so when he and armin had that talk he broke down. He cried multiple times in season 4 as well so him crying in paths with armin is in line with his character.
Real maniac are those fans who are defending his character development. Like they act as they did PhD over his character. They are absolutely morons and AOT is not for them
I am so angry how, Isayama did this to my Levi. The ending is so trash. It would be better if Levi would have die and be with his friends. He too good for this trashy ending.
The ending is just hot garbage. All this build up, all those characters suffering from the omnipresent hate in everyone, all the powerlessness against this allmighty cycle of hatred, all those sacrifices. For what? For the Titans vanishing from the world but the hate still remains? Its stupid as fuck. Building up Eren as the vessel for Ymirs (Jesus') hate against the world just to make her getting soothed by Mikaza, because she hAd To KiLl hEr LoVe tO sAvE tHe WoRlD? What a fucking inconsequent bullshit. It is like building up the most epic and fire speech ever just to fart at the punchline. I guess the writer himself had no clue how to end this story and just went for a generic happy end thats not toooo happy. My take would have been that Eren uses his power to change the timeline. The moment when the King spoke to his people asking who let the pigs out and everyone pointed at Ymir, someone (Eren) stands up to sacrifice himself for this innocent child. So she had not to endure all the hatred of the world. Thus the Titans would have not been created and the world had a real chance to change for good. Eren undoing all the shit happening after this incidence. Maybe give him a more important role in all of this by letting all the people of the AoT timeline getting born anyway without the Titans and even Mikaza and Amin and their happy tree. But without Eren, so his sacrifice is to undo his existence. By erasing himself from history, he saved the world. The crux in this world is the hatred. The titans were only a metaphor for it. And it wasn‘t adressed in any way by this ending.
Most of the themes (sins of the father, sacrifice something important to achieve something, being born into this world, surpassing the father, ending the cycle of hatred, keep moving forward, keeping children out of the forest) are uncompleted The lore and its rules are so unclear and not explored well. Dozens of unanswered questions (How does eren even know he killed 80 % if he didn't see what 100 % look like? Why did he take the Warhammer away and why does this titan have a unique power of distance control? Why did he tell historia about his plan? Why did she get pregnant? How did mikasa get back to paradis? Why didn't the yeagerists kill the alliance right after they came back? etc.). The pacing is too fast in comparison to the 1st 3 seasons The warhammer, the pregnancy, Ackerman and hizuru subplots don't have payoff. Reiner's redemption arc is not finished. Annie and pieck don't have ones at all. Zeke's conclusion is so rushed and forced Most of the characters are butchered, their motivations, actions and words make no sense, lack of character development. Erwin, gabi, niccolo and floch are the only ones who have pretty satisfying conclusions and arcs The ending's lessons are terrible: don't defend yourself and your loved ones if someone wants to kill you; no matter how hard you work and try, in the end destiny resolves everything; treat your children like garbage and dgas about their future; feelings of one single person are more important than lives of millions of people; never move on from someone you are obsessed with and so on So many plotholes and pointless dialogues. Kruger's advice was for nothing, falco seeing memories in s 4 ep 1 was for nothing, those shards with hange and floch, the dream from s 1 ep 1... what was that all about? Eren's interview and inner monologues, Isayama's interviews until 2021 were just a lie all along. All the parallels between Ymir, ymir fritz, historia and eren don't play any role Lost girls is now vain as it adds nothing to the story. Aot prequel doesn't matter anymore. Just like chibi show, school caste, akatsuki no requiem, muvluv ripoff. All the deaths don't matter. All the dialogues and flashbacks don't matter. Sacrifices don't freaking matter Eren is not a fighter, he's a pawn and a simp, a slave of another slave he freed himself... oh wait, actually, it was Mikasa. Yeah, mikasa who's not a badly-written character and mary sue, but the main protagonist and the "solution" to genocide, out of nowhere. Ymir is not a victim, she's a tyrant and a true aot villain. Historia is not a relevant heroine as Isayama told us. She just pretended to be a good character. Falco is not important, he's a plot device. Freedom to eren is not living the way you want without being threatened as he said in his interview. It's being... dead? I guess... Ymir, kruger and grisha actually don't care about historia, eldians and the island. They wanted to doom them this whole time And so, so so on
After thinking about it a lot: Maybe it was seasons 2 and 3 which were missteps. Imagine if you skipped right from the end of Season 1 (where Eren casts aside his humanity to achieve victory) to the start of Season 4 (where now that Eren has cast aside his humanity he's unable to stop being a monster). That story arc would make sense. And I think that was the original plan. The problem is in season 2 Eren has to reign in the monster to (kinda) defeat the Armored Titan. In the first half of season 3 Eren learns humility, and in the second half a fully rational Eren has to do his part to execute a cunning plan. And then season 4 pops up and it's like "Remember how in Stohess Eren was a monster that wasn't really in control of himself? Well now that monster is going to continue being a monster!" I'll have to say Attack on Titan is a textbook case of showing both the strengths and weaknesses of plot-driven storytelling.
what do you mean that eren didnt justify his actions?? he literally shows his memories of the future to everyone showing them that even if he didnt go ahead with the plan of the rumbling they would be killed either way, and that he has tried time and time again to try and change the end results but to no avail. To which armin admits he might have gone down a similar path if he had been the one in erens place because he too had wished many people would disappear. Eren was cursed with his power, but at least he was able to give most of his friends and the people of paradis a long and peaceful life
The ending is "bad" because: 1. Eren has never shown anything close to "romantic attraction" towards Mikasa whatsoever. The only 2 moments that even came close to this supposed "love" were when he gave her the scarf (could easily because of the cold) and when he touched Dina (the royal -> titan) and activated the "call" for the first time (could also be easily explained by his will to survive and protect, also he completely ignored her when she was leaning in for the "kiss" or whatever). These 2 tiny moments are somehow supposed to be the build-up for this insane obsession for mikasa, to the point where he literally spent "the rest of his life" with her in one of the paths? I don't think this makes sense. This story was never about romance. 2. This point is closely connected to point 1. We had an entire incredible sequence of Eren "convincing" Ymir to give him her power, instead of obeying the Royal (Zeke is a descendant) as she has done for 2000 years (and also an infinitely longer time in the world of Paths), showing how she should "stand and fight back", and fight for herself, for FREEDOM (which was the core of the story? hello?), instead of for anyone else's sake, but then at the end, the reason for ALL of this was Mikasa?? And it wasn't even explained WHY Mikasa, Ishiyama just said "dunno" and flipped his entire audience off. And to expand more on that weird and incoherent development, he also threw in the 2000-year stockholm "love" syndrome, without a SINGLE explanation, or justification. Ymir was NEVER shown to have ANY "romantic attraction" towards her enslaver, the exact same way Eren was NEVER shown to have any "romantic attraction" towards Mikasa. It's almost as if the author had buried himself in a bunch of fanfic and thought they became a part of his story because none of this was shown at all. In fact, Attack on Titan was on the decline towards the end, and maybe at this point in time, he was desperate for material or some bs, I have no clue. Maybe he thought this "love" bs would save his manga. Let's be real, attack on titan, as a manga, was heading towards the axe. The whole Rumbling deal was the saving grace, but afterwards, it was clear that it had to end, there was nothing salvageable beyond the Rumbling, it was the last-ditch attempt at relevancy. Don't get me wrong, the Rumbling was a new and fantastic idea. How many stories out there can you find that depict a main character, going from hero to complete genocidal warlord? Find it. I dare you. But yeah, instead of sticking to that storyline, we get this half-assed wacky fanfic bs that was never developed properly, and seemingly only thrown together because of the fanfic pressure, which no author should ever succumb to, unless he was seriously desperate. God, imagine the outrage if it ended without Eren EVER having any romantic moment with Mikasa, without "love" being the driving force for anything whatsoever, you would see mayhem across the aot fanfic crazy base. The most egregious thing is that they are completely free of the financial pressure now, compared to the manga, so the author really doesn't have any reason to pull this half-assed ending. He had a chance for a completely different ending, but decided to flip his audience off again, with an extremely poorly developed plotline.
The entire rumbling ark should have never happened. Isayama wrote himself into a corner with it, and to get himself out of it, he had to make eren a literal plot device and take away his agency as a character just so he'd be a "slave to freedom." This imo is NOT good character writing, it's *telling* us he's a "slave" in one episode rather than *showing* us throughout the entire anime's run. Eren seasons 1-3 and eren seasons 4 are two completely different characters. Also, yea, the whole romance plotline with Ymir was just, ugh. This anime was never about romance and to shoehorn it into the ending so forcefully just to satisfy all the cringe shippers was like a slap in the face to people who followed the story for more than just that. Romance should have taken a backseat to the actual themes of the story and mikasa should have had more characterization than just being the "chosen one" who needs to break free from her "abusive" relationship with eren. Like what happened with the whole Hizuru background, nothing; worldbuilding went to dust along with everything else I loved about the anime thanks to the rumbling. It was a cop out and a bad end to an otherwise stellar series.
yea i think a lot of the people that defend the ending like to say that the people who don't like it just don't like it because Mikasa killed Eren when in reality it has nothing to do with that moreso feels like the final 2 chapters (Last 30 Minutes) feel like a different anime/manga then the rest of the series
Expect they did show how he was a slave throughout the entire show. He’s literally obsessed and driven by a singular purpose, almost to an unnatural degree. I think armin points it out perfectly when he shows Eren the seashell. They got to the sea and seen the most beautiful sight they had ever come across, and Eren couldn’t even acknowledge it as he was too pre occupied thinking about his enemies. And by season 4, he’s just a it totally lost his mind, but it’s foreshadowed up to that point. There’s literally multiple instances of him being influenced by the future and seeing the future. Eren is a slave to the attack Titan and the power of it.
@@EggEnjoyer No, he's a slave to ymir's will. If he was a slave to the attack titan and had lost his mind, then he would have completed the rumbling. In the show, the titan curse only ended once ymir saw mikasa "sever" her ties to eren. That was what she needed to finally move on her toxic past love with king shitz. You'd be absolutely right, if the weird romance plotline hadn't been shoehorned in at the end, thus giving eren a bit more agency to his character, regardless of whether or not he's a slave to freedom or whatever.
@itskish Do you agree with me ? I have seen so many videos about why the hated the ending but nobody seems to really talk about why it is bad , I hated the ending for one reason, changing from raw straight forward story without being convoluted to being absurd confusion convoluted story where they shift from the real world to somewhere fantasy world where they try to force explain things to us as if we care.
I think a lot of people were let down for different reasons there's a lot of ways they made the story messy with the PATHS but it really wasn't a massive problem until the end but yeah a lot of people are upset because a lot of character endings weren't at all expected
Yeah basically this. Hell I might watch it all again and just skip that whole part. It derailed everything and honestly I hadnt watched the previous episode in a long time or any kind of recap so it was just kind of lost on me and felt like some justification as to why Eren wasn't just a piece of shit lol.
I’m happy that I LOVED the finale! I really thought I hated Eren’s turn but that final episode proves that this show can do no wrong. I‘ve never been so invested in a show in my life and been so devastated (in a good way) by a finale. 11/10 show
@@EdwardHohenheim Nah bro, I started the 4th season really hating the turn with Erin, but that finale (IMO) explained and justified everything literally perfectly and really made me love it!
To be fair The anime ending did clean up imo the worst part about the ending when it happened in the manga which was the dialogue between armin and eren. Im sorry but eren saying i dont know and acting like he doesn't know why he wiped out most of the world made it a HORRENDOUS finale if the anime watchers had saw that i think it would be a lot less digestible. That being said i still dont think anime cleaned up enough to make it a good ending. Its still pretty bad imo it just doesnt do justice to things that were set up so nicely in the earlier parts of the series. Just my opinion ive already explained why on my channel. Too many things that were set up just didnt even amount to shi when it was set up too. Questions were left unanswered. Erens character still got shit on imo mikasa character still didnt develop after it seemed like it finally would. Historia literally just got thrown to the side worst than any other character after she was built up to play an integral world with her baby. And bc of this it always gave me the imoression that isayama change the ending last minut and i still hold that sentiment. It just became too incosistent the characters had too much plot armor in the end. Stuff just didnt feel natural and felt forced and rushed in the end like isayama just had to end it at that moment. It just felt like a mess that doesnt do the perfection of what was the series in seasons1-3. Its not just the ending itself but entire rumbling arc after 131 where things just started crashing downhill and its to the point where i honestly still just became too much of a disappointment and ruined the earlier arcs for me bc now i know pretty much it was all for nothing especially after the extended ending. And yes code geass handled their ending and lelouch much better and flowed much smoother
To be honest with you the anime actually made it good and natural, since even Titans don't exists anymore they would still wage war and revenge, even if the Marleyans had a changed of heart other countries will still eventually take attacks. Eren had the great power to changed the world so he tries to do that but unfortunately he was caught up in a moment to the point he realized how it felt stupid he was for committing a genocide, regardless he'll still needs to do what he got to do. Because really the point of the ending is you already had freedom even in little and seemingly meaningless moments, hatred is strong as love and Mikasa accepted her depressing situations. And bitter and unsatisfying as it is Isayama still sticks to his directions and after all Attack on Titan isn't your typical happy go lucky series. And what's poetic and funny that Eren and Armin where disappointed once they finally go beyond the walls, and that's the same reaction as you and the manga readers lol.
I think the ending was pretty good, but seeing people who liked it call out the ones who didn't by asking "did you want a happy ending?" is annoying, as if we didn't get the realistically happiest ending this story could get. There are valid criticisms from the ones that didn't like the ending, ever since the rumbling started the show has shown a few cracks, but AOT still stuck it's landing enough for it to be the next evangelion, I think.
Forget the weird eren armin scenes, the climactic battle scenes weren’t even close to one’s they’d had. I expected chaos, gut wrenching turns and sacrifices. Just didn’t live up to par with anything they have done. They are always so practical too it sucked they mailed this in. On a lot of fronts.
i will tell you why we hate this ending 1- simp eren goes against what eren believe and contradict his character eren doesn't think of mikasa like that only mikasa love him romantically so this pathetic scene with pathetic dialogue is out of character 2 - ymir love king fritz ?!!!!!! like what how does a slave love her oppressor a man who used to rap.. her everytime she won a war a woman who chose to die from the spear than being alive with this man suddenly isayama made her trapped in love with him XD 3 - eren saying he doesn't know why he did the rumbling and that he is an idiot again goes against what the story already built 4 - eren killingg his mom is a big L why would isayama even make this a thing ? 5 - the parasite creature literally just disappear no one is talking about it last scene for it was when reiner was blocking it after that literally nothing we don't know what even happened looks like isayama forgot about it 6 - turning jean connie gabi and reiner's mom ect to titans to just let them turn back to humans it was a very cheap shock isayama didn't have the ballz to let any sacrifices in this final battle 7 - going back to the mikasa and ymir thing ymir seeing mikasa being free from eren's love is a way of her being free of her "love" of king fritz which is dumb and it didn't even happen lol because mikasa never got over eren so how did she become free ? she kept visiting her grave with her husband (jean is her husband btw the anime didn't show it clearly tho) and she got buried with the scarf so she didn't over eren which mean ymir failed but isayama gaslighting the situation so dumb 8 - mikasa took eren head and walked back to paradise for real this is no joke there is no transfer for her to go back to paradise the plane crashed the boat sunk so how exactly did mikasa go back ? 9 - eren failed at the end paradise still got destroyed they retconned it in the anime to show you that paradise was nuked in the far future but in the manga it looked like it was nuked after like 40 years because it had normal sky scrapers and Aot is taking place in like the 40s so it made no sense 10 - in the episode armin tell eren we are going to hell this is a retcon for what he said in the manga which was one of the worst lines in attack on titan armin says "eren thx for being a mass murdererr for our sake" XDDD 11 - AOE didn't happen if you don't know what this is watch videos about it because it is long but long story short the anime was suppose to be the third timeline where eren success and turns out historia's child is his watch ANR music video to understand this is a timeline where eren win the alliance dies eren regrets it but paradise live in peace after he killed 100% of humanity instead of 80% that's why i am telling you to watch videos about AOE to understand what it is all about the problem is the studio kept giving us evidences and hints that AOE is happening but yet it didn't happen despite all the evidences there is still hope tho this ep is having an episodic form 2 weeks from now they say and probably will have the AOE ending and that's why we hate the ending because it is a bad ending
Ok that was a lot but I still like the original ending, yeah sure it felt pointless and bitter but that's the point of war and violence anyway. And also do you remember that one panel where Ymir is imagining herself letting King Fritz die and stay alive instead for her children?, and that also applied that she realized King Fritz never loved her and just used as a tool, thus she's no longer have an obsession with him and then it set her free.
@@TeddSkylightIf the story was about the never ending cycle 1) it should have been much shorter 2) it shouldn't have suggested 2 solutions to the 2000-year war 3) the conflict should have been not between the world and the island but between every human being 4) Eren's main goal should have been achieving permanent peace
2 years passed and I still don't understand why the hell falco started yelling so everyone turned into titans. He could just have shut up and everyone would be safe. How did he even turn them into monsters? He's not the beast titan and doesn't have royal blood. Am I the only ending hater who didn't understand this shit?
Bro whoever didn’t like the ending literally has no common sense. Everything was shown perfectly in the finale. It was either eren kills everyone and protects the people he loves or let Marley kill everyone he loved, the outcome he chose was to kill everyone and make his friends the heroes so afterwards they’d be accepted but the ending showed it would be tough and possibly impossible still. The whole overarching point of the story was to show that with humans war is inevitable no matter what people try.
Yo I think it would have been a lot stronger without the interaction between Eren and Armin in the "paths" or whatever the fuck. I dont think we needed the mental gymnastics bullshit reveals to try and have Eren not be such a bad guy in the end, it just felt cheap. If you just took out that part and had things play out it would have been a stronger ending. I dont know if it was a bad translation but it really left me scratching my head.
i liked it a lot, aot has kinda always had random short scenes that feel like they came out of a fever dream like annie eating pie or eren whining about mikasa. dont really know what other conclusion people expected and i thought it was executed really well
@@Voids19 eren destroying everything outside the walls was fairly obvious. when people complain about aot ending, ive never heard someone complain about the rumbling before lol
@@GaweeshHow come Falco can fly and evade bunch of arrows without training while Eren needed to train hardening and that's not even flying. 😂 And is Mikasa the only person in the world that has unrequited/strong love that suddenly she's the one Ymir found she has a connection with? 😆 That's just weak writing.
People hate the ending because they want to understand a noble goal in mind, something to justify all this genocide but when they realized their reasonings aren't like erens bs then they're mad cause it felt like it was for nothing. I say it's a perfectly good reason. It's stupid and this narrative should condemn it. Genocide is just wrong and those that condone eren for his sins are like eren, stupid.
Its not that his rationalization doesn't align with the readers (although his rationalization is pretty much non existent), its that the ending renders the story pointless because he doesn't achieve his goal and everyone ends up at square one.
@bobowon5450 he wanted to save his friends and paradis. They all died and all his enemies continued to exist. Literally made the entire story pointless.
@@bigbosss7911 him not achieving his goal is the message of this story. Humans will continue to be on each others throats until it's down to 1, conflict won't cease to exist. It's very realistic of humanity. this isnt a traditional story of "oh the protagonist and everyone else lived happily ever after !1" this cant happen in a story like aot. Also ofc his friends died they lived a long life, and you know what happens after you live a long life? You die
but if u want it in another perspective, put it the entire scout regiment's legacy into it. Didn't what they die for ultimately lead to their goal being achieved? It's this very basic goal in mind since the start of season 1: titans exist? then they must be eradicated. Not to mention Eren wanted this goal too. It's a good full circle tho. "I will eradicate them. every last one" first implied to titans, then humans, then titans again, but this time he actually did eradicate them. For good is up to speculation
Just in case you were a little confused, the part where I was going IN on the ending was mainly from my initial reaction after reading the manga but honestly the anime ending was pretty good and I think even since recording and editing this that I like it a lot more than the manga. Thanks for Watching!
Isayama literally used the central character Ymir Fritz as plot device in worst way possible, and Eren contradicted his own character. The Alliance is cringe to begin with, and the humanity is not acting how real humans act. Moreover, there are tons of plot holes and unexplained things, and by the end the power system of the lore just messed up and showed anything... literally anything.
what would have been your ideal season 4?
@@itskish204 Well I would have focused more on covering plot holes with valid explanations and build better plot twists. First of all I would like to improve Ymir's motivation, she didn't loved King Fritz, but her daughters. As far as we see Ymir's character, she is also a kind person to free the pigs. So the key to end the curse was to take her motivation towards true love, being kind to living beings, and to struggle for freedom.
Here I also try to emphasize Karl Fritz and the Tyburs role a lot sensible, as Karl also intended to end the Titan Curse in my story by looking forward in time and several iterations of actions. That's why he would have made the world to complicated because although Ymir needs to end the Titan Curse, but she was somehow bounded to King Fritz, not because of love, but because she was unaware that she could rebel against him. But Karl Fritz did not knew how to end the Curse so he left that to the fate, and eventually Eren became the Chosen one
Here I would like to add multiverse thing, which is caused by Mikasa's desire for happy ending. In first timeline she would persuade Eren to live with her in Cabin, but in my story, Eren would have taken his friends with him as well and erased their memories to live at the Cabin island peacefully. They be like "We can only find peace where our loved one are with us" And here Ymir would be motivated to life up the Curse by Eren and Mikasa's believe. However, the Paradis Island and Marley would be in conflict and eventually they would be engaged in a fierce battle, which would make Eren and Mikasa to regret what they have done, they had responsibility over their people. That would eventually cause the beginning of second timeline
In second timeline, everything would be like canon story, only difference would be that Armin was the one to motivate Ymir to show sympathy towards living ones during his talk with Zeke in Paths. However, Eren would be there to signal that it could lead Paradis doom. But Ymir was inspired by Armin and lift up the Curse. Now the tragic part, Eren and the alliance would ultimately be killed either by Marleyans or Yeagerist. Come on! They are humans, revenge and devotion towards their own race was in their mind, so this makes a lot of sense. Now, Levi and Mikasa were only survivor, while the Yeagerist would go to conquer the ravaged world for their Eldian Empire. By time, Levi would also be hunted down because he was not in good position. At the end, Mikasa would dig the grave of Levi and her desire would reset the timeline, starting third universe
Now in this universe, Eren is wild and fully motivated to end the cycle of hatred, and for that he sacrificed his humanity and love towards his friends. He would make sure to save Erwin and not Armin, while cooperate more with the worst girl Historia. Eren would suggest Historia to get pregnant, to reincarnate Ymir Fritz as her daughter. Here also, the alliance would be formed because Erwin would oppose full scale Rumbling and would confront Eren, but they would have talk regarding failures of previous timelines and so Erwin would give an idea, to turn all Subjects of Ymir into Wall Titans to finish Rumbling. Later, Erwin and Historia would rule over the Eldians all over the Earth. There would be conflicts, but not as major as war or foreign invasion. Meanwhile, Eren with scarf around his neck would travel all over the world, to fulfill the dream of Armin. Later, Eren would grew old and bitterly cry over letting Mikasa and Armin die. His desire to live with his friend would return back to first timeline.
Thus the timelines were in cycle and it was made because in no universe the protagonists got satisfaction.
@@jaipandey7142I like your version but there's no way eren could erase his friends' memories without touching zeke
@@annett_55555 By friends I meant all his friends, which include Historia also, ofc she is also his friend, they trained for years!! And Eren said he wanted to save her from the mess. Yeah I know it would be a little bit difficult because she is queen of a nation, it's not easy to run away with her somewhere. But we know how far could Eren go to achieve his goals, like he did to reach in Marley and orchestrated Raid of Liberio in the original story. And in my version of story, his only aim is to save his friends, not an entire race which could bring worldwide conflicts. Moreover, the situation of missing a Royal blooded queen and the Founding Titan would lay the roots of the turmoils in the first timeline.
@@jaipandey7142 your response has nothing to do with my comment. To ensure his friends can run with him eren needs to make contact with his brother. That's what I'm saying
It’s obvious to me as someone who’s been reading the manga since 2014 that something seriously went wrong with this last act of the story.
Previously more or less everything that happened felt natural and justified but everything that went down in the last three volumes just comes out of left field with absolutely no buildup or development.
Eren’s friends all of a sudden deciding to be buddy-buddy with the people that murdered their friends and family, Eren’s love for Mikasa, Zeke’s motivations going out of the window, all this utopianism at the very end, and lastly Eren’s character as a whole.
It’s obvious to me that there was some different ending in place planned, it got scrapped for whatever reason, and the ending we got didn’t gel well at all with the rest of the story as a whole.
It’s not the worst ending ever, but yeah it’s pretty fucking abysmal especially when you compare to what preceded it.
Eren was assassinated as a character who developed along the way. This was the real problem.
He really wasn’t. This is a fundamental misunderstanding of his character
@@GojoTheHonoredOne9facts they want him to be some hardened badass but he was putting on a facade and he held that in for years so when he and armin had that talk he broke down. He cried multiple times in season 4 as well so him crying in paths with armin is in line with his character.
Rewatch aot blud
But this time with Turing your brain on
@@justcallmeflareliterally this. It’s not that hard to get
Real maniac are those fans who are defending his character development. Like they act as they did PhD over his character. They are absolutely morons and AOT is not for them
It’s trash sand people don’t want to admit they wasted their time watching and reading it.
Yup you solved it. You understand my mind at a far greater depth than I do, thank you
The power of friendship shit was so cringe for me.... like just no. Ending felt so rushed, it still had me bawling but its alright.
the music was done so well to make it actually emotional
As an anime watcher, i thought the ending was alright man, like Im just not sure what the best ending would be so im chilling with how it was
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I am so angry how, Isayama did this to my Levi. The ending is so trash. It would be better if Levi would have die and be with his friends. He too good for this trashy ending.
True. Zeke basically offered himself to be killed by Levi which is an insult. That's pathetic.
Dude, great video and all, but you can't just spoil the ending of Code Geass like that. That's crazy.
The ending is just hot garbage. All this build up, all those characters suffering from the omnipresent hate in everyone, all the powerlessness against this allmighty cycle of hatred, all those sacrifices. For what? For the Titans vanishing from the world but the hate still remains? Its stupid as fuck. Building up Eren as the vessel for Ymirs (Jesus') hate against the world just to make her getting soothed by Mikaza, because she hAd To KiLl hEr LoVe tO sAvE tHe WoRlD? What a fucking inconsequent bullshit. It is like building up the most epic and fire speech ever just to fart at the punchline. I guess the writer himself had no clue how to end this story and just went for a generic happy end thats not toooo happy.
My take would have been that Eren uses his power to change the timeline. The moment when the King spoke to his people asking who let the pigs out and everyone pointed at Ymir, someone (Eren) stands up to sacrifice himself for this innocent child. So she had not to endure all the hatred of the world. Thus the Titans would have not been created and the world had a real chance to change for good. Eren undoing all the shit happening after this incidence. Maybe give him a more important role in all of this by letting all the people of the AoT timeline getting born anyway without the Titans and even Mikaza and Amin and their happy tree. But without Eren, so his sacrifice is to undo his existence. By erasing himself from history, he saved the world.
The crux in this world is the hatred. The titans were only a metaphor for it. And it wasn‘t adressed in any way by this ending.
honestly your ending seems pretty decent tbh
Most of the themes (sins of the father, sacrifice something important to achieve something, being born into this world, surpassing the father, ending the cycle of hatred, keep moving forward, keeping children out of the forest) are uncompleted
The lore and its rules are so unclear and not explored well. Dozens of unanswered questions (How does eren even know he killed 80 % if he didn't see what 100 % look like? Why did he take the Warhammer away and why does this titan have a unique power of distance control? Why did he tell historia about his plan? Why did she get pregnant? How did mikasa get back to paradis? Why didn't the yeagerists kill the alliance right after they came back? etc.). The pacing is too fast in comparison to the 1st 3 seasons
The warhammer, the pregnancy, Ackerman and hizuru subplots don't have payoff. Reiner's redemption arc is not finished. Annie and pieck don't have ones at all. Zeke's conclusion is so rushed and forced
Most of the characters are butchered, their motivations, actions and words make no sense, lack of character development. Erwin, gabi, niccolo and floch are the only ones who have pretty satisfying conclusions and arcs
The ending's lessons are terrible: don't defend yourself and your loved ones if someone wants to kill you; no matter how hard you work and try, in the end destiny resolves everything; treat your children like garbage and dgas about their future; feelings of one single person are more important than lives of millions of people; never move on from someone you are obsessed with and so on
So many plotholes and pointless dialogues. Kruger's advice was for nothing, falco seeing memories in s 4 ep 1 was for nothing, those shards with hange and floch, the dream from s 1 ep 1... what was that all about?
Eren's interview and inner monologues, Isayama's interviews until 2021 were just a lie all along. All the parallels between Ymir, ymir fritz, historia and eren don't play any role
Lost girls is now vain as it adds nothing to the story. Aot prequel doesn't matter anymore. Just like chibi show, school caste, akatsuki no requiem, muvluv ripoff. All the deaths don't matter. All the dialogues and flashbacks don't matter. Sacrifices don't freaking matter
Eren is not a fighter, he's a pawn and a simp, a slave of another slave he freed himself... oh wait, actually, it was Mikasa. Yeah, mikasa who's not a badly-written character and mary sue, but the main protagonist and the "solution" to genocide, out of nowhere. Ymir is not a victim, she's a tyrant and a true aot villain. Historia is not a relevant heroine as Isayama told us. She just pretended to be a good character. Falco is not important, he's a plot device. Freedom to eren is not living the way you want without being threatened as he said in his interview. It's being... dead? I guess... Ymir, kruger and grisha actually don't care about historia, eldians and the island. They wanted to doom them this whole time
And so, so so on
After thinking about it a lot: Maybe it was seasons 2 and 3 which were missteps. Imagine if you skipped right from the end of Season 1 (where Eren casts aside his humanity to achieve victory) to the start of Season 4 (where now that Eren has cast aside his humanity he's unable to stop being a monster). That story arc would make sense. And I think that was the original plan.
The problem is in season 2 Eren has to reign in the monster to (kinda) defeat the Armored Titan. In the first half of season 3 Eren learns humility, and in the second half a fully rational Eren has to do his part to execute a cunning plan.
And then season 4 pops up and it's like "Remember how in Stohess Eren was a monster that wasn't really in control of himself? Well now that monster is going to continue being a monster!"
I'll have to say Attack on Titan is a textbook case of showing both the strengths and weaknesses of plot-driven storytelling.
Worst ending of all time
worst than game of thrones?
what do you mean that eren didnt justify his actions?? he literally shows his memories of the future to everyone showing them that even if he didnt go ahead with the plan of the rumbling they would be killed either way, and that he has tried time and time again to try and change the end results but to no avail. To which armin admits he might have gone down a similar path if he had been the one in erens place because he too had wished many people would disappear. Eren was cursed with his power, but at least he was able to give most of his friends and the people of paradis a long and peaceful life
This. Great answer
People fr don't understand Eren as a character. This is a great answer
😂
The ending is "bad" because:
1. Eren has never shown anything close to "romantic attraction" towards Mikasa whatsoever. The only 2 moments that even came close to this supposed "love" were when he gave her the scarf (could easily because of the cold) and when he touched Dina (the royal -> titan) and activated the "call" for the first time (could also be easily explained by his will to survive and protect, also he completely ignored her when she was leaning in for the "kiss" or whatever). These 2 tiny moments are somehow supposed to be the build-up for this insane obsession for mikasa, to the point where he literally spent "the rest of his life" with her in one of the paths? I don't think this makes sense. This story was never about romance.
2. This point is closely connected to point 1. We had an entire incredible sequence of Eren "convincing" Ymir to give him her power, instead of obeying the Royal (Zeke is a descendant) as she has done for 2000 years (and also an infinitely longer time in the world of Paths), showing how she should "stand and fight back", and fight for herself, for FREEDOM (which was the core of the story? hello?), instead of for anyone else's sake, but then at the end, the reason for ALL of this was Mikasa?? And it wasn't even explained WHY Mikasa, Ishiyama just said "dunno" and flipped his entire audience off. And to expand more on that weird and incoherent development, he also threw in the 2000-year stockholm "love" syndrome, without a SINGLE explanation, or justification. Ymir was NEVER shown to have ANY "romantic attraction" towards her enslaver, the exact same way Eren was NEVER shown to have any "romantic attraction" towards Mikasa.
It's almost as if the author had buried himself in a bunch of fanfic and thought they became a part of his story because none of this was shown at all.
In fact, Attack on Titan was on the decline towards the end, and maybe at this point in time, he was desperate for material or some bs, I have no clue. Maybe he thought this "love" bs would save his manga. Let's be real, attack on titan, as a manga, was heading towards the axe. The whole Rumbling deal was the saving grace, but afterwards, it was clear that it had to end, there was nothing salvageable beyond the Rumbling, it was the last-ditch attempt at relevancy.
Don't get me wrong, the Rumbling was a new and fantastic idea. How many stories out there can you find that depict a main character, going from hero to complete genocidal warlord? Find it. I dare you. But yeah, instead of sticking to that storyline, we get this half-assed wacky fanfic bs that was never developed properly, and seemingly only thrown together because of the fanfic pressure, which no author should ever succumb to, unless he was seriously desperate. God, imagine the outrage if it ended without Eren EVER having any romantic moment with Mikasa, without "love" being the driving force for anything whatsoever, you would see mayhem across the aot fanfic crazy base.
The most egregious thing is that they are completely free of the financial pressure now, compared to the manga, so the author really doesn't have any reason to pull this half-assed ending. He had a chance for a completely different ending, but decided to flip his audience off again, with an extremely poorly developed plotline.
The entire rumbling ark should have never happened. Isayama wrote himself into a corner with it, and to get himself out of it, he had to make eren a literal plot device and take away his agency as a character just so he'd be a "slave to freedom." This imo is NOT good character writing, it's *telling* us he's a "slave" in one episode rather than *showing* us throughout the entire anime's run. Eren seasons 1-3 and eren seasons 4 are two completely different characters.
Also, yea, the whole romance plotline with Ymir was just, ugh. This anime was never about romance and to shoehorn it into the ending so forcefully just to satisfy all the cringe shippers was like a slap in the face to people who followed the story for more than just that. Romance should have taken a backseat to the actual themes of the story and mikasa should have had more characterization than just being the "chosen one" who needs to break free from her "abusive" relationship with eren. Like what happened with the whole Hizuru background, nothing; worldbuilding went to dust along with everything else I loved about the anime thanks to the rumbling. It was a cop out and a bad end to an otherwise stellar series.
yea i think a lot of the people that defend the ending like to say that the people who don't like it just don't like it because Mikasa killed Eren when in reality it has nothing to do with that moreso feels like the final 2 chapters (Last 30 Minutes) feel like a different anime/manga then the rest of the series
Expect they did show how he was a slave throughout the entire show.
He’s literally obsessed and driven by a singular purpose, almost to an unnatural degree.
I think armin points it out perfectly when he shows Eren the seashell. They got to the sea and seen the most beautiful sight they had ever come across, and Eren couldn’t even acknowledge it as he was too pre occupied thinking about his enemies.
And by season 4, he’s just a it totally lost his mind, but it’s foreshadowed up to that point. There’s literally multiple instances of him being influenced by the future and seeing the future.
Eren is a slave to the attack Titan and the power of it.
@@EggEnjoyer No, he's a slave to ymir's will. If he was a slave to the attack titan and had lost his mind, then he would have completed the rumbling.
In the show, the titan curse only ended once ymir saw mikasa "sever" her ties to eren. That was what she needed to finally move on her toxic past love with king shitz.
You'd be absolutely right, if the weird romance plotline hadn't been shoehorned in at the end, thus giving eren a bit more agency to his character, regardless of whether or not he's a slave to freedom or whatever.
Yes, it is just to bad.
It's not that bad, it's *worse.*
sheesh
Imo the anime ending was fantastic
The anime fixed up some things, like the Eren and Armin dialogue, which helped improve the ending.
I can see people not liking the manga ending cause it sucked ass but as an anime only for 8 years that shit had me ugly crying ngl.
Yes, it was indeed that bad.
@itskish Do you agree with me ?
I have seen so many videos about why the hated the ending but nobody seems to really talk about why it is bad , I hated the ending for one reason, changing from raw straight forward story without being convoluted to being absurd confusion convoluted story where they shift from the real world to somewhere fantasy world where they try to force explain things to us as if we care.
I think a lot of people were let down for different reasons there's a lot of ways they made the story messy with the PATHS but it really wasn't a massive problem until the end but yeah a lot of people are upset because a lot of character endings weren't at all expected
Yeah basically this. Hell I might watch it all again and just skip that whole part. It derailed everything and honestly I hadnt watched the previous episode in a long time or any kind of recap so it was just kind of lost on me and felt like some justification as to why Eren wasn't just a piece of shit lol.
I’m happy that I LOVED the finale! I really thought I hated Eren’s turn but that final episode proves that this show can do no wrong. I‘ve never been so invested in a show in my life and been so devastated (in a good way) by a finale. 11/10 show
it was shit.
11/10? Glazing is real lmao
@@EdwardHohenheim Nah bro, I started the 4th season really hating the turn with Erin, but that finale (IMO) explained and justified everything literally perfectly and really made me love it!
You're mental. The ending was trash
@@silasfoley2971 It explained nothing!
the anime ending was basically perfect. I've seen a few people state how they thought it should have ended and its always way worse.
Glad you liked it!
More power to you.
I don’t like rushed endings.
glad you have such a low bar
@@zacharygiles2984 what would you have preferred to happen?
@@bobowon5450100% rumbling with Eren returning to Historia and their child with Floch still alive as leader
1st, 2, and 3 goated the rest you can trash it 🚮
Also let’s be real when they change the style of the animation it dip down
Yeah imo Wit studio art was perfect for this anime
@@itsme-rc1nn yeah bro and you got ppl calling the final season a mater piece what a joke 👎🏾
miss WIT
@@itskish204 heck yeah dude and good vid btw 🤙🏾
To be fair The anime ending did clean up imo the worst part about the ending when it happened in the manga which was the dialogue between armin and eren. Im sorry but eren saying i dont know and acting like he doesn't know why he wiped out most of the world made it a HORRENDOUS finale if the anime watchers had saw that i think it would be a lot less digestible. That being said i still dont think anime cleaned up enough to make it a good ending. Its still pretty bad imo it just doesnt do justice to things that were set up so nicely in the earlier parts of the series. Just my opinion ive already explained why on my channel. Too many things that were set up just didnt even amount to shi when it was set up too. Questions were left unanswered. Erens character still got shit on imo mikasa character still didnt develop after it seemed like it finally would. Historia literally just got thrown to the side worst than any other character after she was built up to play an integral world with her baby. And bc of this it always gave me the imoression that isayama change the ending last minut and i still hold that sentiment. It just became too incosistent the characters had too much plot armor in the end. Stuff just didnt feel natural and felt forced and rushed in the end like isayama just had to end it at that moment. It just felt like a mess that doesnt do the perfection of what was the series in seasons1-3. Its not just the ending itself but entire rumbling arc after 131 where things just started crashing downhill and its to the point where i honestly still just became too much of a disappointment and ruined the earlier arcs for me bc now i know pretty much it was all for nothing especially after the extended ending. And yes code geass handled their ending and lelouch much better and flowed much smoother
To be honest with you the anime actually made it good and natural, since even Titans don't exists anymore they would still wage war and revenge, even if the Marleyans had a changed of heart other countries will still eventually take attacks.
Eren had the great power to changed the world so he tries to do that but unfortunately he was caught up in a moment to the point he realized how it felt stupid he was for committing a genocide, regardless he'll still needs to do what he got to do.
Because really the point of the ending is you already had freedom even in little and seemingly meaningless moments, hatred is strong as love and Mikasa accepted her depressing situations.
And bitter and unsatisfying as it is Isayama still sticks to his directions and after all Attack on Titan isn't your typical happy go lucky series.
And what's poetic and funny that Eren and Armin where disappointed once they finally go beyond the walls, and that's the same reaction as you and the manga readers lol.
I think the ending was pretty good, but seeing people who liked it call out the ones who didn't by asking "did you want a happy ending?" is annoying, as if we didn't get the realistically happiest ending this story could get. There are valid criticisms from the ones that didn't like the ending, ever since the rumbling started the show has shown a few cracks, but AOT still stuck it's landing enough for it to be the next evangelion, I think.
Yeah Levi surviving is fine
Attack on Titan isn't the greatest manga ever, even statistics doesn't show that 🤷
based 1-3 season 10/10, ending = 🤡
I genuinely loved watching this....(but have never seen one episode of AoT) ...I could compare it to, watching a Sherlock Holmes movie-backwards.
😂 glad you liked it
Forget the weird eren armin scenes, the climactic battle scenes weren’t even close to one’s they’d had. I expected chaos, gut wrenching turns and sacrifices. Just didn’t live up to par with anything they have done. They are always so practical too it sucked they mailed this in. On a lot of fronts.
Yes it is
Yes , Yes it is .
10/10 is wild considering Historia got sidelined, Zeke vs Levi honestly you coulda blinked and missed it, Reiner being the plot armor titan and so on
yes
No it wasnt
i will tell you why we hate this ending
1- simp eren goes against what eren believe and contradict his character eren doesn't think of mikasa like that only mikasa love him romantically so this pathetic scene with pathetic dialogue is out of character
2 - ymir love king fritz ?!!!!!! like what how does a slave love her oppressor a man who used to rap.. her everytime she won a war a woman who chose to die from the spear than being alive with this man suddenly isayama made her trapped in love with him XD
3 - eren saying he doesn't know why he did the rumbling and that he is an idiot again goes against what the story already built
4 - eren killingg his mom is a big L why would isayama even make this a thing ?
5 - the parasite creature literally just disappear no one is talking about it last scene for it was when reiner was blocking it after that literally nothing we don't know what even happened looks like isayama forgot about it
6 - turning jean connie gabi and reiner's mom ect to titans to just let them turn back to humans it was a very cheap shock isayama didn't have the ballz to let any sacrifices in this final battle
7 - going back to the mikasa and ymir thing ymir seeing mikasa being free from eren's love is a way of her being free of her "love" of king fritz which is dumb and it didn't even happen lol because mikasa never got over eren so how did she become free ? she kept visiting her grave with her husband (jean is her husband btw the anime didn't show it clearly tho) and she got buried with the scarf so she didn't over eren which mean ymir failed but isayama gaslighting the situation so dumb
8 - mikasa took eren head and walked back to paradise for real this is no joke there is no transfer for her to go back to paradise the plane crashed the boat sunk so how exactly did mikasa go back ?
9 - eren failed at the end paradise still got destroyed they retconned it in the anime to show you that paradise was nuked in the far future but in the manga it looked like it was nuked after like 40 years because it had normal sky scrapers and Aot is taking place in like the 40s so it made no sense
10 - in the episode armin tell eren we are going to hell this is a retcon for what he said in the manga which was one of the worst lines in attack on titan armin says "eren thx for being a mass murdererr for our sake" XDDD
11 - AOE didn't happen if you don't know what this is watch videos about it because it is long but long story short the anime was suppose to be the third timeline where eren success and turns out historia's child is his watch ANR music video to understand this is a timeline where eren win the alliance dies eren regrets it but paradise live in peace after he killed 100% of humanity instead of 80% that's why i am telling you to watch videos about AOE to understand what it is all about the problem is the studio kept giving us evidences and hints that AOE is happening but yet it didn't happen despite all the evidences
there is still hope tho this ep is having an episodic form 2 weeks from now they say and probably will have the AOE ending
and that's why we hate the ending because it is a bad ending
Ok that was a lot but I still like the original ending, yeah sure it felt pointless and bitter but that's the point of war and violence anyway.
And also do you remember that one panel where Ymir is imagining herself letting King Fritz die and stay alive instead for her children?, and that also applied that she realized King Fritz never loved her and just used as a tool, thus she's no longer have an obsession with him and then it set her free.
@@TeddSkylightIf the story was about the never ending cycle
1) it should have been much shorter
2) it shouldn't have suggested 2 solutions to the 2000-year war
3) the conflict should have been not between the world and the island but between every human being
4) Eren's main goal should have been achieving permanent peace
2 years passed and I still don't understand why the hell falco started yelling so everyone turned into titans. He could just have shut up and everyone would be safe. How did he even turn them into monsters? He's not the beast titan and doesn't have royal blood. Am I the only ending hater who didn't understand this shit?
I hope for moe in spring of 2024 or in 2026. Keep moving forward
You can’t even use spacing and punctuation, and so I do doubt your ability to properly analyze this media.
its not bad
agreed felt a lot better in anime still not perfect tho
Bro whoever didn’t like the ending literally has no common sense. Everything was shown perfectly in the finale. It was either eren kills everyone and protects the people he loves or let Marley kill everyone he loved, the outcome he chose was to kill everyone and make his friends the heroes so afterwards they’d be accepted but the ending showed it would be tough and possibly impossible still. The whole overarching point of the story was to show that with humans war is inevitable no matter what people try.
idk man even if you did like the ending there was a lot of questions that need answers
@@itskish204Don't bother mate. These lot are too deep glazing.
This is a reach forsure lmao
what part lol
Yo I think it would have been a lot stronger without the interaction between Eren and Armin in the "paths" or whatever the fuck. I dont think we needed the mental gymnastics bullshit reveals to try and have Eren not be such a bad guy in the end, it just felt cheap. If you just took out that part and had things play out it would have been a stronger ending. I dont know if it was a bad translation but it really left me scratching my head.
By the title, no
i liked it a lot, aot has kinda always had random short scenes that feel like they came out of a fever dream like annie eating pie or eren whining about mikasa. dont really know what other conclusion people expected and i thought it was executed really well
People weren’t expecting genocide.
@@Voids19 eren destroying everything outside the walls was fairly obvious. when people complain about aot ending, ive never heard someone complain about the rumbling before lol
@@a77725rumbling arc was stupid i'm sorry.
Ending was 10/10 lmao couldn’t have been any better
it was -1/100
7/10, too many unanswered plot lines and plot holes but still a relatively good ending.
What unanswered questions exactly
3/10 more like , same as eren's wits XD .
@@GaweeshHow come Falco can fly and evade bunch of arrows without training while Eren needed to train hardening and that's not even flying. 😂 And is Mikasa the only person in the world that has unrequited/strong love that suddenly she's the one Ymir found she has a connection with? 😆 That's just weak writing.
Anime and Manga alike. The ending was great
Im convinced manga readers dont even like manga 😂
idk about that boss
People hate the ending because they want to understand a noble goal in mind, something to justify all this genocide but when they realized their reasonings aren't like erens bs then they're mad cause it felt like it was for nothing. I say it's a perfectly good reason. It's stupid and this narrative should condemn it. Genocide is just wrong and those that condone eren for his sins are like eren, stupid.
Its not that his rationalization doesn't align with the readers (although his rationalization is pretty much non existent), its that the ending renders the story pointless because he doesn't achieve his goal and everyone ends up at square one.
@@bigbosss7911 Eren literally achieves his goals
@bobowon5450 he wanted to save his friends and paradis. They all died and all his enemies continued to exist. Literally made the entire story pointless.
@@bigbosss7911 him not achieving his goal is the message of this story. Humans will continue to be on each others throats until it's down to 1, conflict won't cease to exist. It's very realistic of humanity. this isnt a traditional story of "oh the protagonist and everyone else lived happily ever after !1" this cant happen in a story like aot. Also ofc his friends died they lived a long life, and you know what happens after you live a long life? You die
but if u want it in another perspective, put it the entire scout regiment's legacy into it. Didn't what they die for ultimately lead to their goal being achieved? It's this very basic goal in mind since the start of season 1: titans exist? then they must be eradicated.
Not to mention Eren wanted this goal too. It's a good full circle tho. "I will eradicate them. every last one" first implied to titans, then humans, then titans again, but this time he actually did eradicate them. For good is up to speculation
yes