You are right but you didn’t finish. Not seeing from other perspectives is what keeps people focused & razor Fuckn sharp! The boys complained that he wasn’t in the business long enough for their liking. They complained even more when he was RACING to the top. They complained that he was a loner. They complained that his running to the ring was not the way your supposed to get to the ring & then they said that’s all he could do…..& the beat goes on. Had he seen it from their perspective he may not have gotten to the top. Again I’m Just pointing out the other side is all cause you are correct as well.
Its Crazy to think that after all this drama and hatred between him and the wwe, he finally got to return and make it into the HOF and then made a good speech on raw then died 12 hours later. Its almost like his soul wanted to rebuild all the bridges that he burned down and once he fixed the biggest one it was time for him to leave.
As a 7-10 year old kid Warrior was my favorite. I remember how big he was and then out of nowhere he was gone. It’s cool we have this show, to show us what went down.
Jake was KNOWN for missing shows, being drunk, hammered, high, etc. so Warrior had every right to say "I'm only doing this if you show up everyday." BUT he absolutely could have done it in a better way but he himself admitted that he handled things the wrong way in the past.
Some people just need to hear the truth bluntly/unfiltered, so I can completely understand how Warrior came across... Sometimes that's what it takes to encourage motivation, a stern "talking to"...
Why did Jake said that he was gonna get a championship run? During the summer of 91, Warrior wasn't the world champion, Hogan was. Either Jake was fabricating or Vince lied to him. If I had to bet, I'm going with option 2.
@@kenterminateddq5311 Probably just not remembering correctly. Him and Warrior would have been top of the card, most nights, so it would have been a huge payoff, if they drew decent house shows.
@@kenterminateddq5311 I noticed that too. I think his point was less about the WWF championship and more about the push to the main event status by working with Warrior. Jake Roberts had just got done feuding with Rick Martel, so the shift to Ultimate Warrior was a big push.
I know he will never see this. But from someone who was born in 86 I want to say to Jake that you were my favorite wrestler of all time. For whatever reason you imprinted on my mind something that has lasted 33 years. Thank you for your contribution to the sport
I never met the warrior Jim. but Jake came to my elementary class St.Petersburg FL during early 90s and wasn't in character and rudely told me wrestling is fake when i keep asking fanboy wrestling questions such as status of his python injury after match against Earthquake, he gave me mean look and said "Really..that Fake..Come on" Piece of me died that day LOL.
These were my favourite times of wrestling. The promos and the live call outs. Bret giving his glasses away hulk and warrior going crazy and Jake bringing his snake out. Kids will never get what we had as kids man.
My favorite era was mid atlantic and nwa. It was a time when the fans could be involved and interact with the superstars. They used to let my best friend and I, and other young people, help in setting up the ring, and we met a great number of superstars that way.
Junkyard dog and his chains British Bulldog and Matilda Capt. Lou Albano and his Goatee Jimmy Snooka could fly Dino Bravo and Rick Flair and their white Hair Andre the Giant Demolition Legion of Doom BAM Bam Bigelow Big Boss man
For some reason, the understated "This was a serious mistake on your part." is the single most chilling line in that letter. You can practically hear Vince McMahon's voice.
And he mysteriously dies after the HOF induction. Just like Owen Hart’s harness mysteriously doesn’t work after he injures the Golden Goose (Stone Cold).
@@Ivantheterrible81280 LMAOOOO so, he waited 30 years? Wow, Vince really is a planner. You need to find a hobby away from the internet and conspiracy theories.. Go try to find a girlfriend or get laid (doubtful this could be possible) or maybe take up fishing or chess (these being the more realistic options)
@@bradenharris8718 Changing his name to Warrior back in the early 90s gave Jim complete ownership and control over the Ultimate Warrior character. Coming back to the WWE for the HOF in 2014 basically Warrior "sold" the rights to his character to Vince. That's what Vince always wanted and why they had multiple legal battles over the years.
It was Kerry VonEric for me. I was blessed to go to a Cafe my whole life where the cook was also a tag team wrestler for WCW in the 80s. Kerry and Iceman King Parsons would come in from time to time to have breakfast there. I got to sit in Kerry's lap and have breakfast one morning. I also had for years until it got lost and autograph photo from Kerry. I LOVED THE VonErics. I will for ever cherish those memories. As well as my dad making a ring on Saturday and us all wrestling and him letting us jump off the couch onto him doing all the moves they would do and of course who's dad has never grabbed their stomach and sceamed "THE CLAW"? Man those were the days. I'm still friends with Terry, sadly his wrestling days are long over, but his son is doing it now. Terry was still doing matches up until about 7 years ago when a motorcycle accident nearly took his foot. My brother also married the great-granddaughter of the woman who opened the Cafe in the 50s. She just recently sent me the recipes for her great grandmother's pies. Man when they had to close the doors for good (that was my first job when I was 15 and worked on and off throughout the years) it was like a part of my family died that day. Anyways that has nothing to do with wrestling but being able to meet Kerry and Iceman was awesome. He was my first crush. When he died and how he died as well as his brothers it was so heartbreaking. I also never knew Kerry had his foot or part of his foot amputated and he wrestled for a while that way until he just couldn't anymore and that began his decline. So many tragedies in the world of wrestling. The VonErics ranch is still not far from where I grew up. Fort Worth was the home of wrestling till McMahan took over.
Warrior also took care of his financial situation much better than the other wrestlers, that's why Warrior didn't feel obliged to wrestle for decades and have to accept whatever bullshit promoters threw at him.
His first wife is Sherri whi never mind and sad that the reason why warrior was not noticed by wwe so much was due to his real life persona issue causing real life trouble for him due to him being over confident in himself he even broke up from his first wife due to his mentality feeling like he doesn’t need family which I almost fell to until I realized what I did almost cost me I never thought the one man my daddy likes 1 in pro wrestling in real life was a bit selfish or crazy
@@ryanjacobson2508 That's true.. but did Jim had to bury other talent while doing all of this?? He could have made millions on top of millions if he did business.. Brock Lesnar gets it! He doesn't need to wrestle at all now but he does it cause it's a business and he makes millions doing it.. Warrior could have made all the money he wanted and still been young enough to do whatever he wanted..
@@ooonyxxx I sure hope so but I have real reasons to worry about a S4 not happening or taking longer than usual such as one of the creators, Jason Eisener, going back to his film director chair and working on a new movie and I imagine that will take a very large portion of his schedule. And also ratings for some of the episodes on season 3 not getting the same attention as they did for season 2. I sure hope we get a 4th season in the future because there are still interesting (and very dark) topics they can do.
@Bohdi BS? You mean mention the story of something Flair did multiple times on multiple flights even BEFORE the plane ride from hell and had multiple witnesses? Sorry try again.
That was back when that dude; Vince McMahon was a real piece of work. Sometimes the antics just got so surreal to the real world; when the real world was all about surreal.
In Warrior’s mind, he felt he was entitled to this package because unlike guys like Jake, Flair, Bret, etc, he was “working” a lot more hours than those guys, via his extreme diet and many more hours in the gym. And that he invented and brought something to the table those guys didn’t- the run to the ring and an energy that they didnt have. Not to mention he knew that Hogan was on his way out. He knew Hogan was growing stale and was involved with Hollywood and movies and all that nonsense, so Vince could certainly afford it. And I’m sure there were already rumors of Hogan jumping ship to Dubya See Dubya. My point is that you really couldn’t blame him. Although maybe he should’ve just ASKED for a raise.
Hogan wasn’t interested in jumping ship in 91. He knew his time in the ring was coming to an end and was planning his retirement. The main reason he joined WCW in 94 was because he was shooting Thunder In Paradise (primarily) in Orlando and WCW was working out of a Universal Studios soundstage. It meant less travel and more time at home.
He did " just ask for a raise"? In 89' Bad news brown gave him advice to ask for a million bucks on the event vs Hogan. He wanted a million , cuz Hulk was getting a million. Vince said sure! I don't know if UW was already signed to do whatever?? Or they got paid different on PPV's?
The way the McMahon handd staff is the greatest downfall of all time. No one will argue that such wrestlers asking for adequate compensation were by a long shot, never wrong.
Well it shows that professional wrestling isn’t so glamorous that all of us think it was until you saw this documentary between Vince and the ultimate warrior
I don’t care who says what but the moment the ultimate warrior came running out it was the greatest moment Of ever show. He could instantly get everybody pumped up and excited.
He got his foot in the door of a billion dollar industry and tried to make the best of it knowing that this job cant last long. Most of these performers get crippled or die young. McMahon is alive and well with a Net worth of 2 billion dollars...cant say I feel sorry for him.
The last couple seasons of Dark Side are getting really biased, and it's because the producers are too friendly with people like Jake Roberts (who was a walking dumpster fire in the 90's and 2000's and lies routinely to this day).
He has embellished it slightly here by changing some words said but he's told the same story for years now. It's pretty obvious why Warrior would have doubts about working with him and might lay down the law, Jake can take that how he wants. They were doing a program where Undertaker and Warrior were feuding and Jake sided with Warrior then betrayed him so it was kinda obvious they were going with that next but it never happened because Warrior was fired. The championship being involved is questionable though as Hulk had it at that time, it's possible Undertaker may have won the belt and later dropped it to Warrior as they were feuding but Flair was also involved too by then with Hulk. We got a whole load of nonsense from the Hulkster even on his way out to do movies though where he refused to drop it to flair and had to win it back off Undertaker and have the belt be vacated for Flair to have it via a Royal Rumble. It would have still been a big program against a top babyface though and probably worth a lot of money to be given a run like that. I have doubts they would have put the belt on him though since he was known to be unreliable. He of course ended up working against Undertaker who turned babyface with Wrestlemania 8 as the blow off. He knew it was his last match for WWF at the time and used his position as the veteran to take advantage of Undertaker to change the finish. Got counted out instead of pinned by changing the tombstone to be on the floor instead of in the ring like he was supposed to, Jake is no angel when it comes to trying to screw people's pushes either.
He’s bullshitting there as hogan was champion at summerslam 91 as he took the belt off slaughter at wrestle mania 7. Warrior hadn’t had the title since royal rumble earlier that year. Hogan didn’t drop the belt until the Tuesday night in Texas paper row which was just after survivor series. The same night jake had the cobra bite macho man’s arm
Growing up, I loved Ultimate Warrior? I never realized he would run outta breath so much in the ring when I was a kid until wrestlers would say he would tire himself out so much, in his last speech just before he passed away, he was heavy breathing poor man. Rest In Peace Warrior.
I used to idolize these guys my whole childhood until I realized the truth of what was going on.... Had a big event in my hometown and the wrestlers stayed at a hotel not far from the arena so my dad snuck my brother and I into the hotel and we seen them, all of them sitting together like friends eating and talking, I have never been so confused in my whole life, that's when I knew wrestling was all about the handshake/agreement before the match and my life was never the same. 😩😄
To be fair, Warrior was ridiculed and looked down upon by much of the locker room because of his inability to wrestle and his lone wolf nature. Doesn't surprise me that he would act that way towards a guy that was "one of the guys" and participated in mocking him. It's important to see the situation from more than one perspective....
His perspective was flawed though. Instead of continuing to give more ammunition for people to hate him he should've learned to be more one of the boys and stop being a selfish prima donna.
@@rogerm3708 He wasn't "one of the boys". He didn't party and socialize like everybody else did. And like many have said during these shoot interviews, in the end, you gotta look after yourself, it's a cut throat business. I'm not saying he was a perfect man by any means. Just that compared to what other people were doing (drugs, groupies, violent brawls, sexual assault, etc) he was pretty tame.
he was my favorite wrestler growing up... didnt care for the hulkamania or mr slim jim.... the Warrior had an amazing energy that till this day is not matched in the ring.
Warrior also looked to Vince as a father figure because of his own childhood. I know that doesn’t make excuses for things in business but Warrior sure was hurt by a lot of things that happened. Couldn’t see past their relationship and it sure poisoned things for a long time
Warrior was just wired differently. Alot of super talented people are "weird" because they think differently. Even though he sucked in the ring, he was talented enough to reach the top of the industry and sell a lot of merch in a short time. This is something that most students of the game dont acheive.Hormone supplementation can also influence the brain in negative ways. A combination of childhood trauma, low self esteem, and Hormone supplementation/abuse are all reasons for his paranoid, egocentric, antisocial, and delusional behavior. All of that is too much to think about so its easier to just write him off as a nut. As nuts as he was, he was smart enough to make it to the top with such efficiency that has yet to be seen again. That is called intelligence.
Warrior isn't stupid or crazy. He never got arrested and he took care of his earnings very well, unlike most other wrestlers. The hatred against Warrior is from jealous people in the wrestling business who thought that Warrior was aloof and didn't take wrestling seriously enough. But it's ridiculous that Warrior gets more crap than guys like New Jack.
Correct. They had time to change the main event to Hogan/Sid vs. Slaughter/Adnan/Mustafa. Or if they wanted to keep Sid as the referee, they could have tagged Hogan with Savage, who would return to the ring a few months later anyway. My understanding is that Warrior sent that letter to Vince in July 1991 shortly after he received what he felt was an unfair payoff for WM7. He didn’t receive the payoff until a few months later, which is why it all happened so close to Summerslam. But I guess there really isn’t really a good time to hold up someone for money.
The whole timeline here is off. Vice did zero real research for this trash. His disgruntled ex wife and bum ass Jake Roberts is the best they could get lol. Warrior wasn’t perfect but he had goals that others in the business couldn’t fathom cause they were all drugged out.
Warrior in the late 80's / early 90's deserved everything Hogan had contract wise. That dude worked the audience so hard with his promos of insanity, and just once he was the in the ring it was easy to compare the crowd energy to Hogan. He was 100% an equal without the same push.
As a kid in late 80s and 90s. I remember Warrior and rest great wrestlers. From the old Wrestling Buddies I had several lol. To the commercial and toys. Warrior at time he fired. Was probably my favorite. When he left no one knew what happened. It’s not like today and the internet. I just know we DIDNT see him anymore no mentioning of his name. I think he wanted greater thing’s. Did some of it go to his Head yeah probably. But I say one thing. I’m beyond happy he was inducted into the the Hall of Fame. Before he passed away after Monday night. None of us knew that weekend or Monday Night show. It be his last appearance. But looking back how red he was and his breathing. And the speech he gave that Monday night. Will it lives on in History. And he will be greatly missed by Millions of people. Now he’s up there. With rest of Many great Name’s. Him Macho probably having some words. And hugging it out
"Jim's greatest downfall of all time was his inability to see things from someone else's perspective" I'm convinced that upon hearing that, he had to have been a narcissist. Outbursts & a completely fragile ego behind closed doors. I can see why Vince had fired him. Narcissists always get in their own way when things were relatively good. They just have to blow everything up anyways. CM Punk followed in his footsteps too.
Besides from being a childhood hero, I don't know how anyone could respect that man. Bret Hart didn't respect Warrior for stuff like complaining and being upset about doing an hour of photos and autographs for disabled kids after a show, saying stuff like he was too tired, not again etc. According to Bret this was one of many reasons why most of the roster back then looked down on Warrior!
That story always sounded like bullshit. Warrior was always great with fans and plenty of other wrestlers had nice things to say about him. Bret Hart being his miserable, bitter self, what's new.
There a video on YT with Bad News Brown, where he talks about the situation with Warrior and telling Vince he wanted paid the same as Hogan for that title match. Turns out it was actually Bad News Brown’s idea for Warrior to ask for more money. Further, Warrior was reluctant to do it, and Brown told him that if it was him, it’s what he’d do, and either take his advice & get more money or not. Seems Warrior took a ton of heat for something that wasn’t even his idea & had to be talked into doing to start with.
Yup. Bad News Allen said that Hellwig was respectful toward him. Allen was a legit judo champion who spoke his mind. Wayne Ferris, the Honky Tonk Man, also said that Hellwig was respectful toward him also. Ferris saw it was good business to lose the the IC belt and wasn't against laying down.
The conversation with Bad News was before the WrestleMania match with Hulk when the contracts weren't even signed. Warrior wasn't sure what to ask for regarding pay so he asked Bad News Allen for advise. Bad News told him he should negotiate the same amount Hulk was getting. Warrior asked Vince what was Hulk getting (which was a million dollars) and said he wanted the same amount. Vince agreed but for some reason after the Wrestlemania match he didn't get paid the full amount. Warrior faxed a letter over to Vince saying if he didn't get the rest owed that they both agreed to he would no-show the next pay-per-view, Summerslam, which was over a month away. Vince agreed to paying him and then fired him after the SummerSlam match. Vince keeps pushing the lie that Warrior held him up the day of SummerSlam over and over. Warrior, previous to his death, uploaded a copy of the letter Vince signed agreeing to pay Warrior what they agreed on and it clearly showed the date.
I've been watching wrestling my whole life I was born in 1980 and he has always been my favorite and sting how ironic they came in together as a tag team and I'm not knocking on hulk Hogan but I believe at that point in his career he should have cuz they were the two biggest names in my eyes in the peak of wrestling when I was watching it
Ultimate warriors was always my favorite wrestler , then sting number # 2. The warrior was definitely a legend . I think he should of just waited another year or so to gain more leverage . Skill wasn’t there in terms of technical wrestling but there’s no denying the level of star he was .
Macho Man, UW, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, The Road Warriors and on and on were such icons to me and watching Beyond the Mat, The Resurrection of Jake and other "behind the scenes" stuff just soured a lot of my perspectives of some of them and made me appreciate the ones that got screwed goving their all for so long only to be chewed up and spat out by a very flash-in-the-pan industry perpetrated by assholes like Vince. I got to work with some of the ones that got sidelined like Yokozuna and some from WCW on the independent circuit building rings and assisting with a few other production assignments and damn they worked HARD to put on a show.
Dude, I honestly stay away from any bad videos or behind the ring kinda news. I want to remember 90s wrestling and my idols how I saw them when I was a kid.
What am I missing? I remember Jake was being set up for a program with Warrior at the time however Warrior wasnt champion at the time, Hulk Hogan was, so why are theu calling it Jake's "championship run"?
4:10 Vince McMahon deserves an award for that. Sure wrestling promoters have reputations for f***ing the boys around. But Vince is still the boss and if wants you to do something, from dropping the title to someone clean or putting a midcarder over while being a top guy, your going to do it.
Jake stating that he had to go along with the Warrior to get the championship belt makes absolutely no sense at all. The Ultimate Warrior had lost the belt the previous Royal Rumble and at the time of the Summerslam Jake is referring to Hogan was the champion so there was literally no possibility of Jake wining the belt off Warrior after Summerslam....
He clearly meant he would be in a position to be in a match for a world title. Just put on a higher tier. I didn't take it as meaning he would become champion.
Outstanding video post, now I have Jake "The Snake" Roberts "Pick Your Poison" DVD which I own. He definitely discussed the issue. With respect to your content, the people who gave amazing interview pieces with the exception of Jim Cornette. As well my having a somewhat layman's idea of the cult of wrestling. I actually agreed with The Ultimate Warrior's position. Not his conduct though, because there was a better way to do what he did. First, don't hold up others from getting their money when you are booked. If the WWE's final decision was not going to give him a raise. WCW was always out there and the late Jim Warrior definitely began his wrestling career with Sting (Steve Borden). Jim Warrior definitely had a right to seek fair compensation for his work and representing the WWF at the time as their champion or top guy. Maybe he was paid a fair amount, maybe he wasn't and that's what's unclear to me.
McMahon was already paying Hogan an arm and a leg, and if the warrior started getting paid similar or equal amounts, sets a dangerous precedent for the rest of the roster as far as compensation. Also this was still around the time before wrestlers were openly discussing payoffs with eachother, so it would benefit McMahon to pay everyone as little as possible, still banking on the fact that at that time wrestlers didn't really talk money with eachother as much.
@@markl5998 I appreciate your point, but I didn't take it that far. The Ultimate Warrior was not worth Hulk Hogan money first and foremost. Again, Vince McMahon did make him the top guy which means The Ultimate Warrior had a right to seek fair compensation to the position he had.
@@markl5998 1988 through 1991 Warrior was every bit Hogan's equal in popularity. And it's not a question of what he was worth. A lot of people don't know enough about this situation, it was ALREADY agreed when Warrior became champion in 1990 that he would receive the same payoffs as Hogan, the agreement was that he didn't want more than Hogan, but that as a point of principle Hogan shouldn't receive a higher payoff than him. That was what was agreed, and it wasn't Warrior that reneged on it, it was Vince, who underpaid Warrior for Mania VII. Warrior's letter was putting it in writing on record to hold McMahon to what he had ALREADY agreed AND been actually paying for the full previous year, and NOT as trash documentaries like this try to paint out as 'holding Vince up for money'. This is the reality of the situation, but the sanitised Vince version is the one that has trickled down more effectively to today's audience sadly.
Warrior deserved the same benefits as Hogan was getting. You're not going to tell me that one of the most famous matches of warrior and Hogan that everyone in attendance and watching at home were all Hulkamaiacs.
Hogan had been WWF's top guy for 5 years at that point, and came in as one, also brought alot of the talent with him. Warrior had been the top guy for one. No surprise he wasn't getting the same pay.
The Ultimate Warrior sacrificed his health by taking steroids on behalf of vince McMahon's request at the time, Vince did truly owe Warrior (big time) for that alone.
You can't blame Vince McMahon for firing Warrior here. I mean you signed a contract and you can't just hold your employer hostage like that, it doesn't work that way.
@@SFNDMK that doesn't matter, warrior threatened to breach the existing contract, it was right for vince to bullshit his way to make sure warrior showed up instead of no showing and having to offer refunds to fans.
@minecraft200 then Vince shouldn't have agreed to the offer of the money to Warrior wanted. If vince wanted to be Ruthless, he could have been instead of prolonging it.
And just the fact that vince gave the warrior a 2nd chance in 1995 and still screwed it up was amazing. You'd think he would have been humbled after his first firing, but nope.
The second chance probably only convinced Warrior he was right. Hogan was going, Vince looked to Warrior - that’s why Warrior wanted the same as Hogan in ‘91. Vince bringing him back proved that Warrior was perhaps right and Vince acted rashly.
This is so full of basic errors that it's ridiculous. First of all, this video is presented as though Warrior wrote that letter and handed it to Vince right before his match - this is demonstrably false, and the crucial context that led to it is ignored. The REALITY is that Warrior was promised a full year earlier when he got the championship that he would be paid equally and receive the same other benefits in the company from that point onward that Hogan was receiving. Nobody including Hogan should be paid a higher amount on the card. And Vince agreed to in 1990. In other words, what was originally agreed in 1987 was completely irrelevant by the time we get to 1991. Vince, as is usual for Vince in his perpetual state of arrogance, thought he could just ignore that agreement when it suited him, and when it came to Wrestlemanie VII, for whatever reason (could have been downturn in business, change to smaller arena meaning lower gate receipts or something else) he made the decision to pay Warrior significantly less than what was agreed. The letter Warrior wrote was him wanting it on record in writing what WAS ALREADY AGREED and had already been in place prior to Vince going against the agreement at Mania VII. And the letter was drafted and given to Vince WEEKS before Summerslam took place. Vince firing Warrior after the Summerslam was in reality him being embarrassed at not having total control, something that a total, indisputable, well known control freak like Vince would absolutely hate and have no way of psychologically accepting. That is what happened. Also, the 'Jake was going to be champion' part is literally just a fabrication. A lie. It doesn't fit in the WWF timeline in any way from that time. But then, as amazing as he was in the ring, Jake was a well-known liar, as everyone knows. But hey, don't let reality get in the way of a rahash of the old WWE character assassination DVD they did about 15 years ago, which is what this video is.
Wow just wow! You know it’s funny, I was NOT A Warrior fan really growing up. I liked the energy when he entered the ring, the Promos were laughable at best, his in ring skills were pretty bad imo, but what did it for me was something about the total package that was Ultimate Warrior just felt flawed. I’m 48 and while I heard about Warrior being hard to work with, this is the first time hearing all of this and now it all makes sense. No wonder the guy had a Heart attack as it seemed much like his in ring character he was always running at 200% and also seems like he lost the ability to think rationally. All he had to do was be a decent human being and he could have had it all and well you see how that ended. Wow
I remember watching him when I was 5 or 6 with my Ultimate Warrior pillow (my cousin had Hogan). I remember that I didn't even think he was a person. I thought he was some kind of humanoid animal like Blanka from street fighter lol
The Warrior hit Rock Bottom and ended up in State Prison here in Florida before he died. He was very popular in prison but the pay scale was Terrible.His once found fame did not keep him out of the State Prison system here in Sunny Florida.
Warrior wasn't the champion in 1991 after the Royal Rumble in January. What is Jake talking about in getting his 'championship run'? I'm guessing he just means main event run since he's complaining about the money but it almost sounds like he's blaming the Warrior for not being WWF Champion himself.
Has McMahan ever responded to any of this? I mean the stories that have come out & the implications are nearly insurmountable its insane. That guy is a real life monster
He is but everyone in this episode seems to just hate on him. They act like he wasn't a significant part of the wwe and he was a nobody it's bs none of these wrestlers are perfect angels so
Expect everyone else was trying to take him down for getting all the attention. It’s a tough business warrior did what he had to. And in the end we’re talking about him and no one else from that time.
It was a shame that Warrior vs Jake never got going. Warrior being trapped in the room full of snakes was ahead of it s time. Who knows where it would have gone.
I remember back in 1987ish, goin to meet wresters after matches, and I met ALOT of wrestlers.. cept for Warrior.. and when i asked other wresters, WHERES THE WARRIOR, they ALL rolled their eyes and said he stays at a diff hotel.. and I asked diff wresters individually and trhey all said the same thing... TODAY when i hear the stories I can tell you it was true!!!!!
So does Brock Lesnar & The Undertaker Sooo ..... ???? Warrior was MAN ENOUGH to do it 1st . This Video us just MORE HATE & JEALOUSY of the WWE / WWF & their " Superstars " .
Warrior could have gone farther, but he didn't want to put in the work and evolve like pretty much every other wrestler has to do at one point or another in their careers. It's like trying to get a high paying job, but you don't wanna go to school to learn what's necessary for that position. Wanting to be a doctor when you only have training in a fast food joint isn't going to fly anywhere!
Ultimate Warrior was my favorite wrestler back in the day I love this music in the way you came out to the ring and shake the ropes Ultimate Warrior lives on forever
Jake and Warrior spoke to one another a day or two before Warrior passed away. Jake "said" that he and Warrior made amends about any wrongs that didn't get righted and years later he gets on Vice and starts rehashing old beef that he had apparently squashed with Warrior. It's disappointing to say the least. Warrior made mistakes and Jake has as well. It's disappointing that Jake still harbors that bitterness towards Warrior.
Check out the fight that nearly happened at a wrestling conference with Harry Smith, British Bulldog's son. Jake allegedly kept trashing Davey Boy Smith about his drug addictions, despite his own problems in that regard, and Harry saw red and threw a coffee in Jake's face. Security pulled Harry away before it became a legitimate brawl, and all because of Jake running his mouth. He may be clean from alcohol and drugs now, but he is not a nice guy.
@@alaistairhamilton8838 wrestlers are in envy because it’s fake if it was real the winner would be the winner etc etc but because it’s rigged it will always leave people bitter even the greats like my Bret hart cause it’s a business with the man chosen to win before it even happen
@@fabolousjada5070 Although Warrior was never talented enough to deserve as much of a push as he got, in my opinion. Bret Hart's matches were always my favourites.
Jake is jealous that Warrior made it to the top and held the IC and Heavyweight championships. Jake never held either title, and there was never a championship run for him. He's full of crap.
I'd like to hear Hellwigs version of what happened. We all know McMahon classified the wrestlerers as independent contractors. So who knows what actually happened.
Ryan from Ryan Reacts: I've been a WWF/WWE fan for 33 years. And after hearing from a ton of wrestlers over the years. Podcasts, RUclips. SO MANY OF THEM HATED THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR. Saying he would be late for shows. Wasn't friendly to anyone. So this is 100% true. But still RIP Warrior.
Some of the things Warrior said in his life really bothered me. But I think it’s clear he was struggling. He changed his name to Warrior. It was his identity. He continually bit the hand that fed him. He seemed lost. Then he finally gets inducted into the hall of fame, gives an eerie speech, and dies. It’s all strange and sad.
Jake is lying. Warrior came out of the ring and an agent told him Vince wanted to see him in his office. There he handed him a letter saying he was suspended for unprofessional conduct. He didn't fire him.
It’s honestly a shame that Jake was never WWF Champion.
I thought I was trippin for a second when that happened
Heck....Jake just wanted a 4-6 month run with Warrior...even if he jobbed every night to him.....lol
None of it, is real. Yikes
@@cloakingcryptids2057 neither aren't any of the movies or shows you watch. "Yikes" back to you, smarta ss
That’s mostly Jake’s fault
The way Jake says " What??" Always has me in stitches after he is informed of having to ask Warrior permission
Vince should've gone with him at least
The inability to see things from another's perspective is the downfall of anyone. It's arguably humanity's worst flaw.
Amen
You are right but you didn’t finish. Not seeing from other perspectives is what keeps people focused & razor Fuckn sharp! The boys complained that he wasn’t in the business long enough for their liking. They complained even more when he was RACING to the top. They complained that he was a loner. They complained that his running to the ring was not the way your supposed to get to the ring & then they said that’s all he could do…..& the beat goes on. Had he seen it from their perspective he may not have gotten to the top.
Again I’m Just pointing out the other side is all cause you are correct as well.
Wtf are you talking about
@@andheardstudios8089 I'm sorry it's not something that can be explained. If you have to ask no explanation will do.
one of the main traits of narcissists
Every time i see Jake the Snake Roberts, i'm just filled with utter joy to know he's doing so much better and i hope he continues on the path he's on.
The Warrior body double Vice got for this episode has the exact same physique as Warrior himself. Kudos to the casting department at Vice.
@Blacksmith SOG what do you have against Vice’s casting department?
Nah. He was too thick in the waist.
@@dr.floridamanphd You're right. Vice should feel ashamed.
Shorter than Helwig too!
Close but nah
Its Crazy to think that after all this drama and hatred between him and the wwe, he finally got to return and make it into the HOF and then made a good speech on raw then died 12 hours later.
Its almost like his soul wanted to rebuild all the bridges that he burned down and once he fixed the biggest one it was time for him to leave.
That almost made me cry
Stop saying the word crazy god dament
you sound like a child, LOL.
I wish he never redeemed anything. Then his stupid wife wouldn’t be around.
They sacrificed him
As a 7-10 year old kid Warrior was my favorite. I remember how big he was and then out of nowhere he was gone. It’s cool we have this show, to show us what went down.
He went to State Prison here in Florida so he could not get out for wrestling matches just FYI.
I remember that too. Huge fan and when I was around 7, I remember thinking what happened to UW?
Being 7, it was confusing - lol
Same
it o0nly shows one side though. warrior would tell it differently
Jake was KNOWN for missing shows, being drunk, hammered, high, etc. so Warrior had every right to say "I'm only doing this if you show up everyday." BUT he absolutely could have done it in a better way but he himself admitted that he handled things the wrong way in the past.
True 👍
Yep.
Jake could have been on a level of Macho Man or even maybe close to Hogan but he was the most unreliable guy not named The Ultimate Warrior.
Some people just need to hear the truth bluntly/unfiltered, so I can completely understand how Warrior came across... Sometimes that's what it takes to encourage motivation, a stern "talking to"...
But Jake never held Vince up for more money like a fucking diva
None of them were saints, but that doesnt make Warrior even one bit better which you definitely attempted to suggest
Jake probably does have the worst luck of any human being Vince has ever met
It was his own doing lol
@@RKO1988 How was Warrior being an ass his own fault?
Why did Jake said that he was gonna get a championship run?
During the summer of 91, Warrior wasn't the world champion, Hogan was.
Either Jake was fabricating or Vince lied to him. If I had to bet, I'm going with option 2.
@@kenterminateddq5311 Probably just not remembering correctly. Him and Warrior would have been top of the card, most nights, so it would have been a huge payoff, if they drew decent house shows.
@@kenterminateddq5311 I noticed that too. I think his point was less about the WWF championship and more about the push to the main event status by working with Warrior. Jake Roberts had just got done feuding with Rick Martel, so the shift to Ultimate Warrior was a big push.
I know he will never see this. But from someone who was born in 86 I want to say to Jake that you were my favorite wrestler of all time. For whatever reason you imprinted on my mind something that has lasted 33 years. Thank you for your contribution to the sport
Omg I hate snakes but originally beginning I loved Jake so much love ddt
Back when the DDT was a protected finisher. Now everyone uses it. Not as much as the super kick but the way Jake did it, you knew it was over
peanut butter Falcon!
I never met the warrior Jim. but Jake came to my elementary class St.Petersburg FL during early 90s and wasn't in character and rudely told me wrestling is fake when i keep asking fanboy wrestling questions such as status of his python injury after match against Earthquake, he gave me mean look and said "Really..that Fake..Come on" Piece of me died that day LOL.
I got let into a backstage of wwf in the 80s from my uncle- all the wrestlers who were enemies were getting along. I was like wtf?
These were my favourite times of wrestling. The promos and the live call outs. Bret giving his glasses away hulk and warrior going crazy and Jake bringing his snake out. Kids will never get what we had as kids man.
Amen
What about the tag team duo's ?
Legion of Doom,
the Bushwackers' were the best
It’s just over!!!
My favorite era was mid atlantic and nwa. It was a time when the fans could be involved and interact with the superstars. They used to let my best friend and I, and other young people, help in setting up the ring, and we met a great number of superstars that way.
Junkyard dog and his chains
British Bulldog and Matilda
Capt. Lou Albano and his Goatee
Jimmy Snooka could fly
Dino Bravo and Rick Flair and their white Hair
Andre the Giant
Demolition
Legion of Doom
BAM Bam Bigelow
Big Boss man
For some reason, the understated "This was a serious mistake on your part." is the single most chilling line in that letter. You can practically hear Vince McMahon's voice.
And he mysteriously dies after the HOF induction. Just like Owen Hart’s harness mysteriously doesn’t work after he injures the Golden Goose (Stone Cold).
@@Ivantheterrible81280 Here we go...
@@Ivantheterrible81280 if they wanted to off Warrior they would not have waited 30 yrs to do it
@@Ivantheterrible81280 LMAOOOO so, he waited 30 years? Wow, Vince really is a planner.
You need to find a hobby away from the internet and conspiracy theories.. Go try to find a girlfriend or get laid (doubtful this could be possible) or maybe take up fishing or chess (these being the more realistic options)
@@bradenharris8718 Changing his name to Warrior back in the early 90s gave Jim complete ownership and control over the Ultimate Warrior character.
Coming back to the WWE for the HOF in 2014 basically Warrior "sold" the rights to his character to Vince.
That's what Vince always wanted and why they had multiple legal battles over the years.
he is the main reason why i watched wrestling as a kid in the 80s and 90s
Did you tie shoe laces around your arms and wrestle your stuffed Alf?
1989 is still considered part of the 80s
Me to🤘
It was Kerry VonEric for me. I was blessed to go to a Cafe my whole life where the cook was also a tag team wrestler for WCW in the 80s. Kerry and Iceman King Parsons would come in from time to time to have breakfast there. I got to sit in Kerry's lap and have breakfast one morning. I also had for years until it got lost and autograph photo from Kerry. I LOVED THE VonErics. I will for ever cherish those memories. As well as my dad making a ring on Saturday and us all wrestling and him letting us jump off the couch onto him doing all the moves they would do and of course who's dad has never grabbed their stomach and sceamed "THE CLAW"? Man those were the days. I'm still friends with Terry, sadly his wrestling days are long over, but his son is doing it now. Terry was still doing matches up until about 7 years ago when a motorcycle accident nearly took his foot. My brother also married the great-granddaughter of the woman who opened the Cafe in the 50s. She just recently sent me the recipes for her great grandmother's pies. Man when they had to close the doors for good (that was my first job when I was 15 and worked on and off throughout the years) it was like a part of my family died that day. Anyways that has nothing to do with wrestling but being able to meet Kerry and Iceman was awesome. He was my first crush. When he died and how he died as well as his brothers it was so heartbreaking. I also never knew Kerry had his foot or part of his foot amputated and he wrestled for a while that way until he just couldn't anymore and that began his decline. So many tragedies in the world of wrestling. The VonErics ranch is still not far from where I grew up. Fort Worth was the home of wrestling till McMahan took over.
Me too mate!
seriously so impressed by the body doubles..it really makes you feel like you were right there in the room
I’ll say this for Warrior, he had the nuts to stand up to Vince.
Warrior also took care of his financial situation much better than the other wrestlers, that's why Warrior didn't feel obliged to wrestle for decades and have to accept whatever bullshit promoters threw at him.
His first wife is Sherri whi never mind and sad that the reason why warrior was not noticed by wwe so much was due to his real life persona issue causing real life trouble for him due to him being over confident in himself he even broke up from his first wife due to his mentality feeling like he doesn’t need family which I almost fell to until I realized what I did almost cost me I never thought the one man my daddy likes 1 in pro wrestling in real life was a bit selfish or crazy
@@ryuride8499 you don’t need a family though. He was probably mgtow.
@@ryanjacobson2508 That's true.. but did Jim had to bury other talent while doing all of this?? He could have made millions on top of millions if he did business.. Brock Lesnar gets it! He doesn't need to wrestle at all now but he does it cause it's a business and he makes millions doing it.. Warrior could have made all the money he wanted and still been young enough to do whatever he wanted..
It looks like Vince McMahon took control of The Warriors plane - and took that plane right into a nosedive.
Please tell me this means a season 4 has been green lit. Dark Side of the Ring is one of my favorite series ever.
its the only thing on vice thats good
It hasn't been announced yet as of November 2021. Pretty sure we're gonna get it tho
@@ooonyxxx I sure hope so but I have real reasons to worry about a S4 not happening or taking longer than usual such as one of the creators, Jason Eisener, going back to his film director chair and working on a new movie and I imagine that will take a very large portion of his schedule. And also ratings for some of the episodes on season 3 not getting the same attention as they did for season 2. I sure hope we get a 4th season in the future because there are still interesting (and very dark) topics they can do.
I Hope So If They Do I Hope They Do A Episode On Muhammad Hassan
@Bohdi BS? You mean mention the story of something Flair did multiple times on multiple flights even BEFORE the plane ride from hell and had multiple witnesses? Sorry try again.
That was back when that dude; Vince McMahon was a real piece of work.
Sometimes the antics just got so surreal to the real world; when the real world was all about surreal.
I really want y’all to keep doing these. It’s really nice to see the other side of wrestling
And a little over 7 months later they brought Warrior back, a huge surprise considering how intense that Summerslam was behind-the-scenes.
In Warrior’s mind, he felt he was entitled to this package because unlike guys like Jake, Flair, Bret, etc, he was “working” a lot more hours than those guys, via his extreme diet and many more hours in the gym. And that he invented and brought something to the table those guys didn’t- the run to the ring and an energy that they didnt have.
Not to mention he knew that Hogan was on his way out. He knew Hogan was growing stale and was involved with Hollywood and movies and all that nonsense, so Vince could certainly afford it. And I’m sure there were already rumors of Hogan jumping ship to Dubya See Dubya.
My point is that you really couldn’t blame him.
Although maybe he should’ve just ASKED for a raise.
Not until 1993. By then Warrior was gone.
Hogan wasn’t interested in jumping ship in 91. He knew his time in the ring was coming to an end and was planning his retirement.
The main reason he joined WCW in 94 was because he was shooting Thunder In Paradise (primarily) in Orlando and WCW was working out of a Universal Studios soundstage. It meant less travel and more time at home.
You can blame him because he was a talentless egomaniac who couldn’t work.
He did " just ask for a raise"? In 89'
Bad news brown gave him advice to ask for a million bucks on the event vs Hogan. He wanted a million , cuz Hulk was getting a million. Vince said sure! I don't know if UW was already signed to do whatever?? Or they got paid different on PPV's?
I once met a Phyician who was a wrestling fan and often was the ringside doctor, he described the ultimate warrior as anabolic city.
You don't need to be a doctor to know that. Just look at the dude.
The way the McMahon handd staff is the greatest downfall of all time. No one will argue that such wrestlers asking for adequate compensation were by a long shot, never wrong.
Well it shows that professional wrestling isn’t so glamorous that all of us think it was until you saw this documentary between Vince and the ultimate warrior
You should definitely watch this series, there's episodes that make drama like this look like heaven
Times have changed for the better in the business
@@SwagSurf-od3vx In the future we may learn of crazy incidents that are now taking place. Lots of these we may not be aware of imo.
This and also that film The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke. It's a good watch
After all these years I’ve finally found out this is what ended warriors career. WWF brings back so many memories
He basically pinned himself out of the business.
I don’t care who says what but the moment the ultimate warrior came running out it was the greatest moment Of ever show. He could instantly get everybody pumped up and excited.
Until the bell rang.
True but gassed himself out before it started
He got his foot in the door of a billion dollar industry and tried to make the best of it knowing that this job cant last long. Most of these performers get crippled or die young. McMahon is alive and well with a Net worth of 2 billion dollars...cant say I feel sorry for him.
That’s the dumbest take ever 🤣 so many wrestlers with long careers when they knew how to get their head out of their own ass
The life of the wrestler is a long, hard and sad road most times 😢
But the Booze, drugs and sex on the road make up for it.
@@ledflaplin2001 I'm not sure about that 🤔 but that's your opinion
@@ledflaplin2001 not for everyone though
As it is with most people. You can't have it all.
Jake is known to exaggerate or even lie in his stories so take what he said with a grain of salt
The last couple seasons of Dark Side are getting really biased, and it's because the producers are too friendly with people like Jake Roberts (who was a walking dumpster fire in the 90's and 2000's and lies routinely to this day).
I was about to say that
well many others have also said warrior was a complete fucking prick so i can see it
He has embellished it slightly here by changing some words said but he's told the same story for years now. It's pretty obvious why Warrior would have doubts about working with him and might lay down the law, Jake can take that how he wants. They were doing a program where Undertaker and Warrior were feuding and Jake sided with Warrior then betrayed him so it was kinda obvious they were going with that next but it never happened because Warrior was fired.
The championship being involved is questionable though as Hulk had it at that time, it's possible Undertaker may have won the belt and later dropped it to Warrior as they were feuding but Flair was also involved too by then with Hulk. We got a whole load of nonsense from the Hulkster even on his way out to do movies though where he refused to drop it to flair and had to win it back off Undertaker and have the belt be vacated for Flair to have it via a Royal Rumble.
It would have still been a big program against a top babyface though and probably worth a lot of money to be given a run like that. I have doubts they would have put the belt on him though since he was known to be unreliable. He of course ended up working against Undertaker who turned babyface with Wrestlemania 8 as the blow off. He knew it was his last match for WWF at the time and used his position as the veteran to take advantage of Undertaker to change the finish. Got counted out instead of pinned by changing the tombstone to be on the floor instead of in the ring like he was supposed to, Jake is no angel when it comes to trying to screw people's pushes either.
He’s bullshitting there as hogan was champion at summerslam 91 as he took the belt off slaughter at wrestle mania 7. Warrior hadn’t had the title since royal rumble earlier that year. Hogan didn’t drop the belt until the Tuesday night in Texas paper row which was just after survivor series. The same night jake had the cobra bite macho man’s arm
Growing up, I loved Ultimate Warrior? I never realized he would run outta breath so much in the ring when I was a kid until wrestlers would say he would tire himself out so much, in his last speech just before he passed away, he was heavy breathing poor man. Rest In Peace Warrior.
I used to idolize these guys my whole childhood until I realized the truth of what was going on.... Had a big event in my hometown and the wrestlers stayed at a hotel not far from the arena so my dad snuck my brother and I into the hotel and we seen them, all of them sitting together like friends eating and talking, I have never been so confused in my whole life, that's when I knew wrestling was all about the handshake/agreement before the match and my life was never the same. 😩😄
Guess what? Santa Claus was your parents 🤯
Seriously?? Dude it’s pure entertainment 🤦♂️
@@AZTLANSOLDIER13 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@AZTLANSOLDIER13 😆
ruclips.net/video/hA37Aed3yak/видео.html
To be fair, Warrior was ridiculed and looked down upon by much of the locker room because of his inability to wrestle and his lone wolf nature. Doesn't surprise me that he would act that way towards a guy that was "one of the guys" and participated in mocking him. It's important to see the situation from more than one perspective....
His perspective was flawed though. Instead of continuing to give more ammunition for people to hate him he should've learned to be more one of the boys and stop being a selfish prima donna.
@@joemckim1183 it wasn't in his nature. He was very eccentric. It's because of this that he made such an impact.
But you can't deny he was a fan favourite, even if he wasn't popular in the locker room.
He wasn't a team player. When you lift someone else up, they lift you higher
@@rogerm3708 He wasn't "one of the boys". He didn't party and socialize like everybody else did. And like many have said during these shoot interviews, in the end, you gotta look after yourself, it's a cut throat business.
I'm not saying he was a perfect man by any means. Just that compared to what other people were doing (drugs, groupies, violent brawls, sexual assault, etc) he was pretty tame.
he was my favorite wrestler growing up... didnt care for the hulkamania or mr slim jim.... the Warrior had an amazing energy that till this day is not matched in the ring.
IM NOT EVEN INTO WRESTLING, but this footage is GOLD!!
Warrior also looked to Vince as a father figure because of his own childhood. I know that doesn’t make excuses for things in business but Warrior sure was hurt by a lot of things that happened. Couldn’t see past their relationship and it sure poisoned things for a long time
If he was on the same original contract from 1987 when he was unknown, i don't blame him he was easily the 2nd biggest star in wrestling at the time
Warrior was just wired differently. Alot of super talented people are "weird" because they think differently. Even though he sucked in the ring, he was talented enough to reach the top of the industry and sell a lot of merch in a short time. This is something that most students of the game dont acheive.Hormone supplementation can also influence the brain in negative ways. A combination of childhood trauma, low self esteem, and Hormone supplementation/abuse are all reasons for his paranoid, egocentric, antisocial, and delusional behavior. All of that is too much to think about so its easier to just write him off as a nut. As nuts as he was, he was smart enough to make it to the top with such efficiency that has yet to be seen again. That is called intelligence.
Warrior isn't stupid or crazy. He never got arrested and he took care of his earnings very well, unlike most other wrestlers. The hatred against Warrior is from jealous people in the wrestling business who thought that Warrior was aloof and didn't take wrestling seriously enough. But it's ridiculous that Warrior gets more crap than guys like New Jack.
@@ryanjacobson2508 as big of a New Jack fan as I am, you are 1000000% correct sir
DamnGoodTake
Exactly 💯
Are you a doctor or just a RUclips commenter?
They make it sound like Warrior did this the day of the match. He sent that letter to Vince something like a month before that match.
Correct. They had time to change the main event to Hogan/Sid vs. Slaughter/Adnan/Mustafa. Or if they wanted to keep Sid as the referee, they could have tagged Hogan with Savage, who would return to the ring a few months later anyway.
My understanding is that Warrior sent that letter to Vince in July 1991 shortly after he received what he felt was an unfair payoff for WM7. He didn’t receive the payoff until a few months later, which is why it all happened so close to Summerslam. But I guess there really isn’t really a good time to hold up someone for money.
The whole timeline here is off. Vice did zero real research for this trash. His disgruntled ex wife and bum ass Jake Roberts is the best they could get lol. Warrior wasn’t perfect but he had goals that others in the business couldn’t fathom cause they were all drugged out.
Warrior in the late 80's / early 90's deserved everything Hogan had contract wise. That dude worked the audience so hard with his promos of insanity, and just once he was the in the ring it was easy to compare the crowd energy to Hogan. He was 100% an equal without the same push.
💯💯💯💯
His championship run was a bust so that proves he wasn’t equal
I think because of his look Warrior was just more marketable to children but he couldn't deliver the same match quality Hogan could
@@carvedfromlife8949 Ted Dibiase had better wrestling skills than both of them
But apparently he didn't draw when he was champion; house show attendance was down when Warrior was champion
The Ultimate Warrior’s entrance music is literally my jam.
As a kid in late 80s and 90s. I remember Warrior and rest great wrestlers. From the old Wrestling Buddies I had several lol. To the commercial and toys. Warrior at time he fired. Was probably my favorite. When he left no one knew what happened. It’s not like today and the internet. I just know we DIDNT see him anymore no mentioning of his name. I think he wanted greater thing’s. Did some of it go to his Head yeah probably. But I say one thing. I’m beyond happy he was inducted into the the Hall of Fame. Before he passed away after Monday night. None of us knew that weekend or Monday Night show. It be his last appearance. But looking back how red he was and his breathing. And the speech he gave that Monday night. Will it lives on in History. And he will be greatly missed by Millions of people. Now he’s up there. With rest of Many great Name’s. Him Macho probably having some words. And hugging it out
"Jim's greatest downfall of all time was his inability to see things from someone else's perspective"
I'm convinced that upon hearing that, he had to have been a narcissist. Outbursts & a completely fragile ego behind closed doors. I can see why Vince had fired him. Narcissists always get in their own way when things were relatively good. They just have to blow everything up anyways. CM Punk followed in his footsteps too.
I really don't know to much about warrior, but for him to have done these things is horrifying knowing how popular he was at that point.
Those of us inside the business call him Ultimatum Warrior.
Besides from being a childhood hero, I don't know how anyone could respect that man. Bret Hart didn't respect Warrior for stuff like complaining and being upset about doing an hour of photos and autographs for disabled kids after a show, saying stuff like he was too tired, not again etc. According to Bret this was one of many reasons why most of the roster back then looked down on Warrior!
That story always sounded like bullshit. Warrior was always great with fans and plenty of other wrestlers had nice things to say about him.
Bret Hart being his miserable, bitter self, what's new.
Ultimate Warrior doesn’t care about your family 🦸♂️
Brock Lesnar doesn't care about your family either ( kids) Especially ... Soo
Ultimate Warrior just wants to do his stuff.
"I LIVE FOR ANGER AND FRUSTRATION" - ULTIMATE WARRIOR
@E.X. CEASER 😁😁
Explains his racist rants
@@SwagSurf-od3vx well he wasn't entirely wrong 🤷 💯👍
@Razor Rela cool story lady
@@wilcee675 thx grandma 👵 🤣👍
There a video on YT with Bad News Brown, where he talks about the situation with Warrior and telling Vince he wanted paid the same as Hogan for that title match.
Turns out it was actually Bad News Brown’s idea for Warrior to ask for more money. Further, Warrior was reluctant to do it, and Brown told him that if it was him, it’s what he’d do, and either take his advice & get more money or not.
Seems Warrior took a ton of heat for something that wasn’t even his idea & had to be talked into doing to start with.
Wow the more u know 👌
Good lord, some people will believe anything.
Yup. Bad News Allen said that Hellwig was respectful toward him. Allen was a legit judo champion who spoke his mind. Wayne Ferris, the Honky Tonk Man, also said that Hellwig was respectful toward him also. Ferris saw it was good business to lose the the IC belt and wasn't against laying down.
The conversation with Bad News was before the WrestleMania match with Hulk when the contracts weren't even signed. Warrior wasn't sure what to ask for regarding pay so he asked Bad News Allen for advise. Bad News told him he should negotiate the same amount Hulk was getting. Warrior asked Vince what was Hulk getting (which was a million dollars) and said he wanted the same amount. Vince agreed but for some reason after the Wrestlemania match he didn't get paid the full amount. Warrior faxed a letter over to Vince saying if he didn't get the rest owed that they both agreed to he would no-show the next pay-per-view, Summerslam, which was over a month away. Vince agreed to paying him and then fired him after the SummerSlam match.
Vince keeps pushing the lie that Warrior held him up the day of SummerSlam over and over. Warrior, previous to his death, uploaded a copy of the letter Vince signed agreeing to pay Warrior what they agreed on and it clearly showed the date.
Jim was an absolute legend and as a kid he was my main man…his theme was awesome too
His RUclips channel is great. One warrior nation. He is intense and very motivational.
This is awesome. I always wanted to know what happened to this guy! Do more!
I've been watching wrestling my whole life I was born in 1980 and he has always been my favorite and sting how ironic they came in together as a tag team and I'm not knocking on hulk Hogan but I believe at that point in his career he should have cuz they were the two biggest names in my eyes in the peak of wrestling when I was watching it
Ultimate warriors was always my favorite wrestler , then sting number # 2. The warrior was definitely a legend . I think he should of just waited another year or so to gain more leverage . Skill wasn’t there in terms of technical wrestling but there’s no denying the level of star he was .
Macho Man, UW, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, The Road Warriors and on and on were such icons to me and watching Beyond the Mat, The Resurrection of Jake and other "behind the scenes" stuff just soured a lot of my perspectives of some of them and made me appreciate the ones that got screwed goving their all for so long only to be chewed up and spat out by a very flash-in-the-pan industry perpetrated by assholes like Vince. I got to work with some of the ones that got sidelined like Yokozuna and some from WCW on the independent circuit building rings and assisting with a few other production assignments and damn they worked HARD to put on a show.
Dude, I honestly stay away from any bad videos or behind the ring kinda news. I want to remember 90s wrestling and my idols how I saw them when I was a kid.
What am I missing? I remember Jake was being set up for a program with Warrior at the time however Warrior wasnt champion at the time, Hulk Hogan was, so why are theu calling it Jake's "championship run"?
4:10 Vince McMahon deserves an award for that. Sure wrestling promoters have reputations for f***ing the boys around. But Vince is still the boss and if wants you to do something, from dropping the title to someone clean or putting a midcarder over while being a top guy, your going to do it.
Jake stating that he had to go along with the Warrior to get the championship belt makes absolutely no sense at all.
The Ultimate Warrior had lost the belt the previous Royal Rumble and at the time of the Summerslam Jake is referring to Hogan was the champion so there was literally no possibility of Jake wining the belt off Warrior after Summerslam....
I think what he was referring to is getting a push for the belt, since warrior was still a big bame
He clearly meant he would be in a position to be in a match for a world title. Just put on a higher tier. I didn't take it as meaning he would become champion.
Outstanding video post, now I have Jake "The Snake" Roberts "Pick Your Poison" DVD which I own. He definitely discussed the issue. With respect to your content, the people who gave amazing interview pieces with the exception of Jim Cornette. As well my having a somewhat layman's idea of the cult of wrestling. I actually agreed with The Ultimate Warrior's position. Not his conduct though, because there was a better way to do what he did. First, don't hold up others from getting their money when you are booked. If the WWE's final decision was not going to give him a raise. WCW was always out there and the late Jim Warrior definitely began his wrestling career with Sting (Steve Borden). Jim Warrior definitely had a right to seek fair compensation for his work and representing the WWF at the time as their champion or top guy. Maybe he was paid a fair amount, maybe he wasn't and that's what's unclear to me.
McMahon was already paying Hogan an arm and a leg, and if the warrior started getting paid similar or equal amounts, sets a dangerous precedent for the rest of the roster as far as compensation. Also this was still around the time before wrestlers were openly discussing payoffs with eachother, so it would benefit McMahon to pay everyone as little as possible, still banking on the fact that at that time wrestlers didn't really talk money with eachother as much.
@@markl5998 I appreciate your point, but I didn't take it that far. The Ultimate Warrior was not worth Hulk Hogan money first and foremost. Again, Vince McMahon did make him the top guy which means The Ultimate Warrior had a right to seek fair compensation to the position he had.
@@markl5998 1988 through 1991 Warrior was every bit Hogan's equal in popularity. And it's not a question of what he was worth. A lot of people don't know enough about this situation, it was ALREADY agreed when Warrior became champion in 1990 that he would receive the same payoffs as Hogan, the agreement was that he didn't want more than Hogan, but that as a point of principle Hogan shouldn't receive a higher payoff than him. That was what was agreed, and it wasn't Warrior that reneged on it, it was Vince, who underpaid Warrior for Mania VII. Warrior's letter was putting it in writing on record to hold McMahon to what he had ALREADY agreed AND been actually paying for the full previous year, and NOT as trash documentaries like this try to paint out as 'holding Vince up for money'. This is the reality of the situation, but the sanitised Vince version is the one that has trickled down more effectively to today's audience sadly.
@@markl5998 So why did McMahon agree to do it?
Warrior deserved the same benefits as Hogan was getting. You're not going to tell me that one of the most famous matches of warrior and Hogan that everyone in attendance and watching at home were all Hulkamaiacs.
Hogan had been WWF's top guy for 5 years at that point, and came in as one, also brought alot of the talent with him. Warrior had been the top guy for one. No surprise he wasn't getting the same pay.
@@JonCombo 7 years actually.
The Ultimate Warrior sacrificed his health by taking steroids on behalf of vince McMahon's request at the time, Vince did truly owe Warrior (big time) for that alone.
he was taking them years before waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before wwf and all the time after
You can't blame Vince McMahon for firing Warrior here. I mean you signed a contract and you can't just hold your employer hostage like that, it doesn't work that way.
Vince promised to pay him the money Warrior asked
@@SFNDMK that doesn't matter, warrior threatened to breach the existing contract, it was right for vince to bullshit his way to make sure warrior showed up instead of no showing and having to offer refunds to fans.
@minecraft200 then Vince shouldn't have agreed to the offer of the money to Warrior wanted. If vince wanted to be Ruthless, he could have been instead of prolonging it.
And just the fact that vince gave the warrior a 2nd chance in 1995 and still screwed it up was amazing. You'd think he would have been humbled after his first firing, but nope.
3 chances 1991 1992 and 1996
The second chance probably only convinced Warrior he was right. Hogan was going, Vince looked to Warrior - that’s why Warrior wanted the same as Hogan in ‘91.
Vince bringing him back proved that Warrior was perhaps right and Vince acted rashly.
@@georgehernandez5299 3 times fired mean he was getting 2 chances, aftger the third firing he didnt come back, so 2 you genius
@@georgehernandez5299 Then WCW gave him his 4th chance in 1998 which also ended badly.
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This is so full of basic errors that it's ridiculous. First of all, this video is presented as though Warrior wrote that letter and handed it to Vince right before his match - this is demonstrably false, and the crucial context that led to it is ignored. The REALITY is that Warrior was promised a full year earlier when he got the championship that he would be paid equally and receive the same other benefits in the company from that point onward that Hogan was receiving. Nobody including Hogan should be paid a higher amount on the card. And Vince agreed to in 1990. In other words, what was originally agreed in 1987 was completely irrelevant by the time we get to 1991.
Vince, as is usual for Vince in his perpetual state of arrogance, thought he could just ignore that agreement when it suited him, and when it came to Wrestlemanie VII, for whatever reason (could have been downturn in business, change to smaller arena meaning lower gate receipts or something else) he made the decision to pay Warrior significantly less than what was agreed. The letter Warrior wrote was him wanting it on record in writing what WAS ALREADY AGREED and had already been in place prior to Vince going against the agreement at Mania VII. And the letter was drafted and given to Vince WEEKS before Summerslam took place.
Vince firing Warrior after the Summerslam was in reality him being embarrassed at not having total control, something that a total, indisputable, well known control freak like Vince would absolutely hate and have no way of psychologically accepting.
That is what happened.
Also, the 'Jake was going to be champion' part is literally just a fabrication. A lie. It doesn't fit in the WWF timeline in any way from that time. But then, as amazing as he was in the ring, Jake was a well-known liar, as everyone knows.
But hey, don't let reality get in the way of a rahash of the old WWE character assassination DVD they did about 15 years ago, which is what this video is.
They didn't say he would win the title......just work a program with the champion.
Good points. The warrior ain't hear to defend him self.glad you spoke the truth.
@@tjhookit Warrior wasn't champion at that time, Hogan was. Jake is a notorious liar and embellisher.
Well said, there's also plenty of information and a video here on youtube exposing this "Warrior held up Vince for money" nonsense.
Vince will one day suffer from HUGE KARMA awaiting him...Maybe it has not hit him yet, but it is in his destiny. Big swift kick.
The most raw and intriguing wrestling doc series I have ever seen. This is VICE's best series they have the rights too.
Wow just wow! You know it’s funny, I was NOT A Warrior fan really growing up. I liked the energy when he entered the ring, the Promos were laughable at best, his in ring skills were pretty bad imo, but what did it for me was something about the total package that was Ultimate Warrior just felt flawed. I’m 48 and while I heard about Warrior being hard to work with, this is the first time hearing all of this and now it all makes sense. No wonder the guy had a Heart attack as it seemed much like his in ring character he was always running at 200% and also seems like he lost the ability to think rationally. All he had to do was be a decent human being and he could have had it all and well you see how that ended. Wow
LOVED Warrior! Was the best time to use the can and get more refreshments and not miss any of the action. Great guy Warrior.
I remember watching him when I was 5 or 6 with my Ultimate Warrior pillow (my cousin had Hogan). I remember that I didn't even think he was a person. I thought he was some kind of humanoid animal like Blanka from street fighter lol
Ultimate Warrior was my all time favorite as a kid. I had no clue what all was going on!! lol
I had one of those ultimate warrior wrestling dolls at 3:32. I loved wrestling with that thing.
The Warrior hit Rock Bottom and ended up in State Prison here in Florida before he died. He was very popular in prison but the pay scale was Terrible.His once found fame did not keep him out of the State Prison system here in Sunny Florida.
Warrior wasn't the champion in 1991 after the Royal Rumble in January. What is Jake talking about in getting his 'championship run'? I'm guessing he just means main event run since he's complaining about the money but it almost sounds like he's blaming the Warrior for not being WWF Champion himself.
jakes a junkie his memory isnt to be trusted, never trust a snake
Yeah hogan was the champion at the time
Isn’t he on about the i.c. Title?
Has McMahan ever responded to any of this? I mean the stories that have come out & the implications are nearly insurmountable its insane. That guy is a real life monster
I thought the warrior was and is a serious part of wrestling growing up and nothing will change that .. He is a legend !!
He is but everyone in this episode seems to just hate on him. They act like he wasn't a significant part of the wwe and he was a nobody it's bs none of these wrestlers are perfect angels so
The Ultimate Warrior. The most electrifying man to ever do it.
His entrance was the best thing about his character, that's it.
'Jims inability to see things from other people's perspective' that's pathological narcissism in a nutshell.
Expect everyone else was trying to take him down for getting all the attention. It’s a tough business warrior did what he had to. And in the end we’re talking about him and no one else from that time.
He scared me coming out at wrestle mania 12. His and tripe h's debut also austin
Warrior was basically late 80s to 90s CM Punk:
1. Can make the fans pop
2. Solid mic promo ( Except in WCW)
3. Has a huge ego
4. Toxic backstage
This aged like milk lol
the actor was a good body match for warrior. he'd also make a good kerry von erich. he might've played him in season 1.
It was a shame that Warrior vs Jake never got going. Warrior being trapped in the room full of snakes was ahead of it s time. Who knows where it would have gone.
I remember back in 1987ish, goin to meet wresters after matches, and I met ALOT of wrestlers.. cept for Warrior.. and when i asked other wresters, WHERES THE WARRIOR, they ALL rolled their eyes and said he stays at a diff hotel.. and I asked diff wresters individually and trhey all said the same thing... TODAY when i hear the stories I can tell you it was true!!!!!
Warrior drew a lot of money and sold tons of merchandise, Vince couldn’t control him that was the problem. Warrior could call his own shots.
So does Brock Lesnar & The Undertaker Sooo ..... ???? Warrior was MAN ENOUGH to do it 1st . This Video us just MORE HATE & JEALOUSY of the WWE / WWF & their " Superstars " .
The way that jakes retells this… perfection 😩🤣🤣🤣
Warrior could have gone farther, but he didn't want to put in the work and evolve like pretty much every other wrestler has to do at one point or another in their careers. It's like trying to get a high paying job, but you don't wanna go to school to learn what's necessary for that position. Wanting to be a doctor when you only have training in a fast food joint isn't going to fly anywhere!
Ultimate Warrior was my favorite wrestler back in the day I love this music in the way you came out to the ring and shake the ropes Ultimate Warrior lives on forever
Jake and Warrior spoke to one another a day or two before Warrior passed away. Jake "said" that he and Warrior made amends about any wrongs that didn't get righted and years later he gets on Vice and starts rehashing old beef that he had apparently squashed with Warrior. It's disappointing to say the least. Warrior made mistakes and Jake has as well. It's disappointing that Jake still harbors that bitterness towards Warrior.
Check out the fight that nearly happened at a wrestling conference with Harry Smith, British Bulldog's son. Jake allegedly kept trashing Davey Boy Smith about his drug addictions, despite his own problems in that regard, and Harry saw red and threw a coffee in Jake's face. Security pulled Harry away before it became a legitimate brawl, and all because of Jake running his mouth.
He may be clean from alcohol and drugs now, but he is not a nice guy.
Exactly, that means Jake is a hypocrite.
@@alaistairhamilton8838 wrestlers are in envy because it’s fake if it was real the winner would be the winner etc etc but because it’s rigged it will always leave people bitter even the greats like my Bret hart cause it’s a business with the man chosen to win before it even happen
@@fabolousjada5070 Although Warrior was never talented enough to deserve as much of a push as he got, in my opinion. Bret Hart's matches were always my favourites.
Jake is jealous that Warrior made it to the top and held the IC and Heavyweight championships. Jake never held either title, and there was never a championship run for him. He's full of crap.
U.warrior was a true megalomaniac even among other wrestlers I believe .
When you create an avatar so strong it becomes you.
Warrior knew his worth and the merchandise that was being sold for the then WWF.
Yep and the real reason he left in the end was Vince used his promo ideas without Warrior involved.
I'd like to hear Hellwigs version of what happened.
We all know McMahon classified the wrestlerers as independent contractors.
So who knows what actually happened.
The Warrior is and was my favorite wrestler of all time.
Full episode please thanks 🙏. Where can I find it
the ultimate warrior was my favourite wrestler, didnt know he had this dark past
Don't believe the nonsense, there are a lot of lies about Warrior.
Ryan from Ryan Reacts: I've been a WWF/WWE fan for 33 years. And after hearing from a ton of wrestlers over the years. Podcasts, RUclips. SO MANY OF THEM HATED THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR. Saying he would be late for shows. Wasn't friendly to anyone. So this is 100% true. But still RIP Warrior.
I love Jake The Snake seem like such a great guy now a days
Warrior was perfect for his era
Saturday and Sunday morning. Not as much promos on live tv
4:02 damn. I felt that anger.
He has lots of great motivational videos on RUclips
He was a bigger draw than HH, HH launched WWE and so was always the favourite. Warrior should of been paid a bonus as a minimum
In 1996 I went to a WWF show in my hometown; both Jake and Warrior didn't show up. I've lost a lot of repect that night for both guys.
Can’t believe they didn’t cover his time in WCW
Some of the things Warrior said in his life really bothered me. But I think it’s clear he was struggling. He changed his name to Warrior. It was his identity. He continually bit the hand that fed him. He seemed lost. Then he finally gets inducted into the hall of fame, gives an eerie speech, and dies. It’s all strange and sad.
Jake is lying. Warrior came out of the ring and an agent told him Vince wanted to see him in his office. There he handed him a letter saying he was suspended for unprofessional conduct. He didn't fire him.
That sounds right, but Warrior was practically fired. Vince held the contract so he couldn't work anywhere else
How would you know?? Were u there instead of Jake 😂
@@yoyoyo9515 noo i wasnt there along with Jake :)
I like how these get suggested after the A&E videos