@orange1599-u1n people who think planets are only interesting if they’re habitable not only have a very shallow understanding of what makes a planet interesting, but also fundamentally misunderstand the point of space exploration
I like how this channel focuses on science education with exoplanets rather than hype. Phailinsiam is a planet people won't hear about because other channels can't make a clickbait video about it possibly hosting life, but this system is seriously a cool one from a scientific perspective with just how rare it is and what we can learn about planetary formation from studying it. Great work!
Just imagine how many moons it has, I'm surprised exomoons don't get more priority. Considering how many planets orbit their stars, and the potential for even more moons orbiting their gas giant planets.
@@DrumToTheBassWoop I was thinking about that, but then I realized that, if its atmosphere does indeed extend all the way to the edge of its Roche lobe, as they think might be the case, it might have no moons at all. Basically, there would be some drag on anything that was in orbit around it, and if you got far enough out to not have drag, you'd no longer be in orbit around it. But that's not certain to be how the planet is.
@@DrumToTheBassWoop that reminded me, the first exomoon might be confirmed within a few years, or even in 2025. the most likely candidate is WASP-49b I which keeps getting more and more evidence yet somehow isnt confirmed
@@StealthDino lol, it"s just so annoying to me to see so many low effort space channels use space engine footage, not mention it anywhere and then get comments praising "their animations"
@@yossarian00 it's a borderline miracle we have it for as cheap as it is (i'm not sponsored lol), let alone free on its site for the years leading up to the steam release. at the very least it deserves credit any time it's used, it's invaluable for visualising a lot of these things also yeah that's just slimy quietly taking credit, it probably lines up if they don't care that much about accurate information
Exactly. The average person is not going to care about designations, nor know the difference between (for example) TRAPPIST-1d or TRAPPIST-1e, or WASP-12b or WASP-47c.
@@SeMCA99 I believe every exoplanet that is 100% confirmed to exist and be an exoplanet should have a name. It sucks that some astronomers are against exoplanets having names. Designations are boring.
i agree its really interesting but another even more underrated planet is PSR J1719−1438b. first, its a rocky planet BIGGER THAN NEPTUNE, orbits a pulsar, might be a carbon planet with diamonds inside, is so close to its star that ITS ORBIT COULD FIT INSIDE THE SUN, is more massive than jupiter and 20x more dense edit: i just realized theres a chance it could be a star in a binary system
OH THAT ONE YES!!! didn't recognise the designation at first but when I went to Google it I realised which one it was while typing the designation. SO underrated.
PSR J1719-1438b is honestly one of the strangest objects I've ever heard about. It's a stellar remnant and a planet at the same time, orbits it's pulsar sun in mere hours, is the density of osmium, and is mostly made of carbon. What the actual hell...
Can someone explain what planet is this? What I heard so far is that its a Neptune size rocky planet (made of a diamond like gem surface instead of normal rock) and that it has a mass of 1.2 jupiter masses. And that its also the remnant of a white dwarf. Am I correct?
@@erickmendoza3669 Indeed. The composition of the planet is highly unusual for an object of such mass, and does not resemble what would be expected from a classic chthonian planet. In addition, it would have been impossible for it to have formed as a planet when its before its parent star went supernova, as this would destroy any planets. However, it would be much easier for a star to survive this and be recaptured. In addition, white dwarfs that formed from sun-like stars have a high amount of carbon, especially if the pulsar were to have stripped the former white dwarf of hydrogen and helium. However, the planet is far less massive and dense than a white dwarf, so if this is truly its origin the current planet is likely a mere fraction of the original white dwarf. It is, really, the remanent of a stellar remanent.
I'm pretty sure I watched your other vid on this planet, and it's my favorite exoplanet!! You're honestly one of the only space youtubers I trust for actual info, thanks for making reliable vids!!
Ice giants are my favorite type of planet. Seriously, many of them (Cuancoá, Awohali, Uranus, Neptune, potentially Harriot because it might be a subsaturn) have always something really interesting, and Phailinsiam isn't an exception, yet they're eclipsed by exoplanets with tons of misinformation (They're still interesting, but some of the stuff they're popular for is misinformation, only Uranus and Neptune are inmune to being eclipsed because they're part of the solar system) Oh and me and a group of friends like to call the trojan candidate with the nickname "Phainsilito" it just sounds silly lol
Someone please type out a paragraph on Cuancoà. Never heard of it before but i really wanna know about it. If I had time to spare I'd so google it. Nvm I'm making time. Bye y'all I'll google it. Info dropping is still appreciated so if someone wants to please do it
@@yeshagoyal2966 It's a pretty rare type of planet, being part of the Neptunian desert, and it's also the most reflective exoplanet known with an albedo of 0.8. Models also indicate it has a metal rich atmosphere, with silicate clouds and rains of titanium.
"and we only have a limited amount of time to solve these problems because it'll only be around for another few billion years" my man, all of human history fits in that time frame millions of times, you're right that we don't have an infinite amount of time, but from the human perspective, we can functionally treat it like we do
If we are still around 1 million years from now we will be on other planets or in space. Look how far we have come in 1000yrs. A million is not even predictable because who knows how advanced we will be then. We may be half robot who the fuck knows.
Useless fact: Phailinsiam is spelled ไพลินสยาม in case you want to search for what it looks like. Kaewkosin is also แก้วโกสินทร์. Both of whom have little data about gemology in English somehow.
Thank you for this video and for teaching me a lot of cool things about Phailinsiam/GJ 3470 b. I knew of this planet and some of the basics about it but not much in detail. It is a really awesome planet. I hope the trojan planet turns out to exist. The history of discoveries and undiscoveries of other planets (that turned out to not exist) in its star system were fascinating.
This is a really epic video. Problem is astronomy is too much focusing on finding alien life and thus only focusing on planets/moons that might have the right condition for life which would of course be very interesting indeed but there is much more to explore with a more open mind such as this one.
Great work, thank you. Can you do a show on Teagardens star? Though red dwarfs appear the easiest to study, perhaps Tau Ceti should be on the future list as well.
Great video, I love your videos. They are so much more different and have a pure feeling compared to channels like Be Amazed or What If, like dont those kind of feel like "hey, what if some of this info is fake?" from now on Phailinsiam should be on every crazy exoplanet list
For such a planet ending up into such orbit, possibly even with a trojan, the only way I can think of is that if the star had a close encounter or even a merge with another star, twisting up this system.
For all we know there could be only about 10 planets like Phailinsiam in the Universe. Thankyou for bringing this planet up, more people need to know about this rare discovery.
No offense, but despite looking awesome, gassy planets are like "ugly ducklings" of their systems. If they are present, this means they've sucked up all the gasses and metals meant to be forged into cool terrestrial worlds.
Really depends on the system, that tends to happen mostly on F, A and B types (Specially the last two). Rocky planets usually form along with gas giants on the rest of star types (The solar system is the most obvious example), the less massive the stars are they're more likely to form rocky planets (This also means more massive stars have more material around it when they form, and the more material they have it's easier to form giant planets). M types are by far the most common star type, which is also the type that hosts the biggest chances of having rocky planets. Either way, every system is likely to form moons around gas giants, which is almost the same as having rocky planets, unless you want to see earth-sized super-earth moons which are not easy to form, not even around super jupiters.
Some channels have "play all" button, not sure if it's somekind of youtube premium feature it would be nice to have here as well because I like to listen to these videos when falling asleep. Or at least longer playlists. Anyway, enjoying the content as always.
This makes me want to voyage there with a spaceship and to see what's really going on. I just wanna see. Too bad, we're born too early for interstellar exploration
Unfortunately, interesting exoplanets like this are often buried in the sea of 'new Earth-like exoplanet...! which isn't any more Earth-like than Mars or Venus, but you clicked on the video didn't you?'
We're lucky if the "Earth-like" ones are even *as* Earth-like as Mars or Venus. Seems like they're even worse most of the time, like "oh, it's only 3X the mass of earth, and tidally locked to a red dwarf." Yeah no.
@@delphicdescant Yeah, exactly. The term 'Super Earth' doesn't exactly help things either, as the connotations of that to your typical layperson or journalist is rather different to the 'proper' use of the term, which also includes planets up to 10x the mass of Earth and composed primarily of hydrogen... great.
@@MBKill3rCat Ikr, "super Earth" makes it sound super Earth-like or something. Or even a "better Earth" to some people, probably. I feel like there was a point in the past, some time in the earlier 20th century, when journalism was a serious discipline and sensationalists weren't the norm. These days I can't think of anything good to say about journalism at all, and *especially* science journalism.
“Super Earth“ is a deceiving term for exoplanets larger than Earth, especially the ones that aren’t Earthlike. Janssen: Super Earth? More like Super Io with a global magma ocean Tau Ceti e: Super Earth? More like Super Venus “Sub Earth” is also deceiving for planets smaller than Earth. Proxima Centauri d: Sub Earth? More like Super Mercury You get the point. Calling exoplanets “Super Earth” or “Sub Earth” just based on their sizes is deceiving. I have nothing against some gas dwarves smaller than Neptune being called “Mini Neptunes” or gas giants larger than Jupiter being called “Super Jupiters” because the only things that can make the environments of those planets vary is the temperature of their atmospheres.
"we will never see a planet like phalinsiam ever again" 12:11 . The same can be said about Earth when you think about it. After a few hundreds of millions of years life will go extinct forever on earth and it may disappear from the universe entirely when you think about it
Normal playback speed is just a bit too quick, but RUclips's 0.75 percent playback speed is just too slow. Guessing about a 0.9 would be the sweet spot.
So it's orbital plane is very rare, and it's so close to it's sun that it's losing tons of mass every second... I'm wondering if this planet was formed further away from the sun, or from another system all together.
The formal names given to exoplanets shouldn't really be said to be the "actual names" - they're an optional formal name given to generate interest in the planets and are a good method of science outreach. The scientific naming convention is still correct and for astronomers is much less confusing as it means the planets keep the same names instead of needing to keep track of all these renamings and also the survey the planet was discovered in often gives useful information about the planet e.g. WASP planets tend to be hot Jupiters/Saturn's around bright stars, Kepler planets are often longer period around dim stars and in a particular narrow region of sky and so on. While it is nice to use the formal names it's really not very accurate to say people are using the "wrong" names by using the original designation and as a PhD student working in the field I can say it's much easier remembering all the scientific names than all these various formal names. Other than that great work on the video, hot Neptune's are a really interesting area we know little about, LTT-9779b is another interesting highly reflective one which should have a paper of a full orbit observed with JWST out at some point
these are the same astronomers that have no problem switching the names of the thousands of asteroids that get names. There is zero confusion when an asteroid gets renamed, nobody has trouble remembering it, because there’s a database of all named asteroids. It’s the exact same situation with exoplanets. All the astronomers are just arbitrarily not using the names of exoplanets, but have no problem using the names of asteroids, which are named in essentially the exact same way If there was actually a problem with using the actual names of exoplanets, we would’ve seen it with asteroids as well. This whole “but the names are confusing” is just a made up problem and i don’t understand why it’s used asteroid names have meaning too. The numbers at the front can tell you what year it was discovered, it has different letters depending on if it’s a comet or not. But again, nobody has any problem renaming asteroids, but for some reason arbitrarily draw the line at exoplanets
@@Kyplanet893Well I mean the vast majority of astronomers studying exoplanets have never studied asteroids so the fields may have completely different naming conventions alright. In terms of what it's like studying exoplanets all of the database names use the scientific designations and the convention is very much to use the scientific names. I think part of this is the attachment astronomers have to the actual telescope missions used to discover the planets. For example a lot of astronomers have a lot of respect for the Kepler and TESS missions and so they want to acknowledge the mission that discovered the planets. But most of all we are in a very active field of study where the most exciting targets change from year to year and just keeping up with the scientific names is hard enough as is so keep in mind astronomers are just keeping up with an active field as much as they can while also trying to do their own research, write their papers, teach, write observing proposals, etc
Buddy, the fact that it is roughly the size of Neptune is not why they think of it as an ice giant. Size has nothing to do with whether a gas giant is an ice giant or not. It’s all to do with its COMPOSITION.
I feel like the system first had an earth sized planet pretty close to the star then a rouge planet came and orbited around the star's poles and slowly attracted the planet into its trojan orbit. im not rly sure tho
I have a theory about its orbit (though this might be wrong so please correct me in the replies if so), I think the reason why its orbit is so weird is that it was once maybe a rogue planet that got caught in the gravity of its star
How did they determine that it's on a polar orbit? I can see using radial velocity to find out the plane of its orbit, but what's the method to find out how a star spins?
here’s the paper that figured it out iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/ac6e3c from what i can tell as phailinsiam transits it blocks different types of light depending on where it is, so we could tell it was transitting vertically instead of horizontally
@@Kyplanet893 "Orbitar" almost sounds like the alien planet name a 1950s sci-fi B-movie would use after the production team realized they couldn't use a constellation name like Aquarius or Orion.
I think you meant phailinsiam was similar to uranus in mass and radius, since uranus is 14 earth masses while neptune is 27, also its closer to phailinsiam in size Just a small correction
The name should be pronounced as Pailinsiam because thats how that gemstone is called. Thai language happens to have a lot of alphabets that could be converted into a P sound in English so people kinda use both P and PH to differentiate them (still not enough) and it leada to pronunciation error like this because PH makes an F sound. I prefer we just use P for all of them because it makes more sense phonetically.
This makes me wonder if Mercury started off like Phailinsiam and its atmosphere was blown off into the orbits of Venus and Earth, leaving behind the dense core we see today.
@@Extrema207 I will remind you, it wasn't until finding hot Jupiters that we realized that Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune did not form where they are today. We also once believed that our moon formed independently from Earth. It could be that Mercury has always been like it is from its early days. However, we know very little about Mercury and even less about the conditions that formed the planets of our solar system.
when phailinsiam passes in front of its star, depending on what type of light it blocks we can see what’s in its atmosphere, because different chemicals block light differently
@@Kyplanet893 it's fascinating that chemicals somehow blocking only certain light waves, it's even more fascinating that we have the technology to detect that 96 light years away! Some advanced computer wave stuff this must be
There’s been some new studies on it recently so im planning on it but just so you’re aware GJ 1214 b is an outdated name, and it was named Enaiposha at the same time as Phailinsiam
more information about phailinsiam’s potential trojan planet here ruclips.net/video/Wfrf1qSmKsY/видео.htmlsi=TjZtfZWJHntYqDEK
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Finally somebody who gives me a name instead of a number. So sick of acronyms and long strings of letters and numbers that are impossible to remember.
How is it the best planet? it is clearly uninhabitable.
@orange1599-u1n people who think planets are only interesting if they’re habitable not only have a very shallow understanding of what makes a planet interesting, but also fundamentally misunderstand the point of space exploration
@@Kyplanet893 Keep up your negative content.
thanx for mentioning their street names
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This shows your running theme, all planets can be interesting even if they aren't habitable.
Exactly! Mini-Neptunes are my favorite type of planet, for example.
@@idkwhattonamemychannel-r4hEspecially if they have moons.
@@Auroral_Anomaly Omg I hope it has moons!
@@idkwhattonamemychannel-r4h It's like the more we learn about these exoplanets, the more interesting and exotic they get.
@@frankenweeny8785 Absolutely!
I like how this channel focuses on science education with exoplanets rather than hype. Phailinsiam is a planet people won't hear about because other channels can't make a clickbait video about it possibly hosting life, but this system is seriously a cool one from a scientific perspective with just how rare it is and what we can learn about planetary formation from studying it. Great work!
Just imagine how many moons it has, I'm surprised exomoons don't get more priority. Considering how many planets orbit their stars, and the potential for even more moons orbiting their gas giant planets.
@@DrumToTheBassWoop I was thinking about that, but then I realized that, if its atmosphere does indeed extend all the way to the edge of its Roche lobe, as they think might be the case, it might have no moons at all.
Basically, there would be some drag on anything that was in orbit around it, and if you got far enough out to not have drag, you'd no longer be in orbit around it.
But that's not certain to be how the planet is.
@@DrumToTheBassWoop that reminded me, the first exomoon might be confirmed within a few years, or even in 2025. the most likely candidate is WASP-49b I which keeps getting more and more evidence yet somehow isnt confirmed
truly a treasure of a channel just for actually crediting space engine
whaaaaaat what do you mean the photographer didn't use FTL and give us super sick space shots of every celestial object KyPlanet showcases???
@@StealthDino lol, it"s just so annoying to me to see so many low effort space channels use space engine footage, not mention it anywhere and then get comments praising "their animations"
@@yossarian00 it's a borderline miracle we have it for as cheap as it is (i'm not sponsored lol), let alone free on its site for the years leading up to the steam release. at the very least it deserves credit any time it's used, it's invaluable for visualising a lot of these things
also yeah that's just slimy quietly taking credit, it probably lines up if they don't care that much about accurate information
Thank you for actually calling exoplanets by their name instead of a designated code number.
Exactly. The average person is not going to care about designations, nor know the difference between (for example) TRAPPIST-1d or TRAPPIST-1e, or WASP-12b or WASP-47c.
literally everything in the solar system, from the smallest meteors to the biggest planets have names, exoplanets shouldn't be left out
@@SeMCA99 I believe every exoplanet that is 100% confirmed to exist and be an exoplanet should have a name. It sucks that some astronomers are against exoplanets having names. Designations are boring.
@@idkwhattonamemychannel-r4h fr, i could not tell you the difference between all the planets in the trappist system by name
Exoplanet colony ships in 400 years: "Fuck what this old database says, I'm naming it what I want"
Universe RNG going crazy for Phailinsiam right now.
Blessed by RNGesus 🙏
With this much RNG at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it had life on it swimming around in that gas
I like that you're talking about lesser known exoplanets, I personally am a big Fan of Ditsö and hope it too will get the recognition it deserves
Is Ditso the one that orbits it's star retrograde?
@@dbsti3006 yes it does have a retrograde Orbit
"Dan's a Fatso"...? (I keep telling him introductory gym memberships are cheap...)
i agree its really interesting
but another even more underrated planet is PSR J1719−1438b. first, its a rocky planet BIGGER THAN NEPTUNE, orbits a pulsar, might be a carbon planet with diamonds inside, is so close to its star that ITS ORBIT COULD FIT INSIDE THE SUN, is more massive than jupiter and 20x more dense
edit: i just realized theres a chance it could be a star in a binary system
OH THAT ONE YES!!! didn't recognise the designation at first but when I went to Google it I realised which one it was while typing the designation. SO underrated.
PSR J1719-1438b is honestly one of the strangest objects I've ever heard about. It's a stellar remnant and a planet at the same time, orbits it's pulsar sun in mere hours, is the density of osmium, and is mostly made of carbon. What the actual hell...
Can someone explain what planet is this?
What I heard so far is that its a Neptune size rocky planet (made of a diamond like gem surface instead of normal rock) and that it has a mass of 1.2 jupiter masses. And that its also the remnant of a white dwarf. Am I correct?
@@erickmendoza3669 Indeed. The composition of the planet is highly unusual for an object of such mass, and does not resemble what would be expected from a classic chthonian planet. In addition, it would have been impossible for it to have formed as a planet when its before its parent star went supernova, as this would destroy any planets. However, it would be much easier for a star to survive this and be recaptured. In addition, white dwarfs that formed from sun-like stars have a high amount of carbon, especially if the pulsar were to have stripped the former white dwarf of hydrogen and helium.
However, the planet is far less massive and dense than a white dwarf, so if this is truly its origin the current planet is likely a mere fraction of the original white dwarf. It is, really, the remanent of a stellar remanent.
@@TheWigglergler we ❤ paragraph people! also what are chthonian planets again? I forgot the definition
I'm pretty sure I watched your other vid on this planet, and it's my favorite exoplanet!! You're honestly one of the only space youtubers I trust for actual info, thanks for making reliable vids!!
"go tell more people about Phailinsiam"
*10 years later, on a random street*
"can I talk to you about our exo-lord and saviour Phailinsiam?"
I laughed too hard at this and feel as if I shouldn't have
Phailinsiam indeed sounds like an ancient god name, so badass
Lovely name for a planet. We need to rename more planets with real names. Its an interesting planet.
Ice giants are my favorite type of planet. Seriously, many of them (Cuancoá, Awohali, Uranus, Neptune, potentially Harriot because it might be a subsaturn) have always something really interesting, and Phailinsiam isn't an exception, yet they're eclipsed by exoplanets with tons of misinformation (They're still interesting, but some of the stuff they're popular for is misinformation, only Uranus and Neptune are inmune to being eclipsed because they're part of the solar system)
Oh and me and a group of friends like to call the trojan candidate with the nickname "Phainsilito" it just sounds silly lol
Agreed even though im more of a temperate super jupiter exoplanet type of guy
Someone please type out a paragraph on Cuancoà. Never heard of it before but i really wanna know about it. If I had time to spare I'd so google it. Nvm I'm making time. Bye y'all I'll google it. Info dropping is still appreciated so if someone wants to please do it
@@yeshagoyal2966 It's a pretty rare type of planet, being part of the Neptunian desert, and it's also the most reflective exoplanet known with an albedo of 0.8. Models also indicate it has a metal rich atmosphere, with silicate clouds and rains of titanium.
@@AizenSosuke-zi6djlove me some cthonian planets, rare as they are
Same and minineptunes or hycean planets like kepler 22b
"and we only have a limited amount of time to solve these problems because it'll only be around for another few billion years"
my man, all of human history fits in that time frame millions of times, you're right that we don't have an infinite amount of time, but from the human perspective, we can functionally treat it like we do
True; it's only 96 ly away so if we could ever get to Proxima we could almost certainly get there as well
True; it's only 96 ly away so assuming we get to Proxima one day (4 ly) we could almost certainly get to Phialansiam as well
If we are still around 1 million years from now we will be on other planets or in space. Look how far we have come in 1000yrs. A million is not even predictable because who knows how advanced we will be then. We may be half robot who the fuck knows.
0:27 never knew Poland planet existed
You've convinced me. I now have a favorite exoplanet.
Useless fact: Phailinsiam is spelled ไพลินสยาม in case you want to search for what it looks like. Kaewkosin is also แก้วโกสินทร์. Both of whom have little data about gemology in English somehow.
Thank you for this video and for teaching me a lot of cool things about Phailinsiam/GJ 3470 b. I knew of this planet and some of the basics about it but not much in detail. It is a really awesome planet. I hope the trojan planet turns out to exist. The history of discoveries and undiscoveries of other planets (that turned out to not exist) in its star system were fascinating.
Haha we dont have much time just a few Billion years... Hurry guys... I love this channel.
Universe Sandbox has taught me that 90% similar to Earth is nowhere near similar enough.
The fact that RUclips shows me this channel so late is criminal.
This is a really epic video. Problem is astronomy is too much focusing on finding alien life and thus only focusing on planets/moons that might have the right condition for life which would of course be very interesting indeed but there is much more to explore with a more open mind such as this one.
the astronomers arent, unfortunately it’s only the habitable planets news that gets a lot of attention
@@Kyplanet893don’t attack me but because habitable exoplanets are the most interesting exoplanets
Fantastic video. I love your writing and the topics you choose to cover. Thanks for uploading.
Great video, your enthusiasm and curiosity are contagious.
I’m just grateful you use your voice for these topics instead of the fakes who do alt history videos appropriating your tone
Oddly specific…
What are you talking about? Whatifalthist? That's his voice too lol
Great work, thank you. Can you do a show on Teagardens star? Though red dwarfs appear the easiest to study, perhaps Tau Ceti should be on the future list as well.
This is so cool, thank you for sharing!!
"the best planet you've never heard of"
10,000+ people: *Am I a joke to you?*
Great video, I love your videos. They are so much more different and have a pure feeling compared to channels like Be Amazed or What If, like dont those kind of feel like "hey, what if some of this info is fake?" from now on Phailinsiam should be on every crazy exoplanet list
Five words. Hot Ice Giant.
More or less 3, but mkay- Oh i've just realized it.
For such a planet ending up into such orbit, possibly even with a trojan, the only way I can think of is that if the star had a close encounter or even a merge with another star, twisting up this system.
For all we know there could be only about 10 planets like Phailinsiam in the Universe.
Thankyou for bringing this planet up, more people need to know about this rare discovery.
God Himself is watching this video like "finally someone noticed it, I worked hard on that one."
This planet is one of my personal favorites due to how rare it is
I love these videos
A freaking (presumably) ejected and captured ice giant?!
Hell yeah
This ain't phailinsiam praise video this is pure glazing at this point😭
You should do a video on the possible extragalactic planet candidates.
Funny I come across this like the day after reading about it when looking through various hot ice giants
No offense, but despite looking awesome, gassy planets are like "ugly ducklings" of their systems. If they are present, this means they've sucked up all the gasses and metals meant to be forged into cool terrestrial worlds.
If there is multiple gas giants then the bigger one can suck up some of the solids and then move outwards and create tiny rocky planets
Really depends on the system, that tends to happen mostly on F, A and B types (Specially the last two). Rocky planets usually form along with gas giants on the rest of star types (The solar system is the most obvious example), the less massive the stars are they're more likely to form rocky planets (This also means more massive stars have more material around it when they form, and the more material they have it's easier to form giant planets). M types are by far the most common star type, which is also the type that hosts the biggest chances of having rocky planets. Either way, every system is likely to form moons around gas giants, which is almost the same as having rocky planets, unless you want to see earth-sized super-earth moons which are not easy to form, not even around super jupiters.
Gas Giants are the mass stealers of the solar systems.
Like the humans going back for thirds at the buffet.
Unless we find gigantic flying whales in their atmosphere. Then they're cool.
I think you mean cuckoos
Kepler-22b doesn't have solid ground but thats not because its a gas giant but because its an ocean planet
Ocean planets/moons can have solid seafloors
12:05 woah guys we better hurry, this planet's expiration date is slightly worse than our own world
Some channels have "play all" button, not sure if it's somekind of youtube premium feature it would be nice to have here as well because I like to listen to these videos when falling asleep. Or at least longer playlists. Anyway, enjoying the content as always.
This makes me want to voyage there with a spaceship and to see what's really going on. I just wanna see. Too bad, we're born too early for interstellar exploration
It's gems like this I love getting in the recommendation💎.
And bonus points for more about the Lagrange points. I love that astronomical phenomenon
Unfortunately, interesting exoplanets like this are often buried in the sea of 'new Earth-like exoplanet...! which isn't any more Earth-like than Mars or Venus, but you clicked on the video didn't you?'
We're lucky if the "Earth-like" ones are even *as* Earth-like as Mars or Venus.
Seems like they're even worse most of the time, like "oh, it's only 3X the mass of earth, and tidally locked to a red dwarf." Yeah no.
@@delphicdescant Yeah, exactly. The term 'Super Earth' doesn't exactly help things either, as the connotations of that to your typical layperson or journalist is rather different to the 'proper' use of the term, which also includes planets up to 10x the mass of Earth and composed primarily of hydrogen... great.
@@MBKill3rCat Ikr, "super Earth" makes it sound super Earth-like or something. Or even a "better Earth" to some people, probably.
I feel like there was a point in the past, some time in the earlier 20th century, when journalism was a serious discipline and sensationalists weren't the norm. These days I can't think of anything good to say about journalism at all, and *especially* science journalism.
“Super Earth“ is a deceiving term for exoplanets larger than Earth, especially the ones that aren’t Earthlike.
Janssen: Super Earth? More like Super Io with a global magma ocean
Tau Ceti e: Super Earth? More like Super Venus
“Sub Earth” is also deceiving for planets smaller than Earth.
Proxima Centauri d: Sub Earth? More like Super Mercury
You get the point. Calling exoplanets “Super Earth” or “Sub Earth” just based on their sizes is deceiving. I have nothing against some gas dwarves smaller than Neptune being called “Mini Neptunes” or gas giants larger than Jupiter being called “Super Jupiters” because the only things that can make the environments of those planets vary is the temperature of their atmospheres.
this planet seems like it would taste good
I've definitely been convinced!
Now im curious about polar orbits and what we know so far about them
Gotta love how you say that we must hurry and study it before it evaporates in... a few billion years lol. Anyways, great video =)
😮 Such an interesting video about a wildly weird exo planet! Thank you!
I wonder what the odds of finding a planet like this are.
I like your channel it's nice!
"we will never see a planet like phalinsiam ever again" 12:11 . The same can be said about Earth when you think about it. After a few hundreds of millions of years life will go extinct forever on earth and it may disappear from the universe entirely when you think about it
woah
im also a trojan horse
Through the whole video I expected him to say planet Balenciaga
Normal playback speed is just a bit too quick, but RUclips's 0.75 percent playback speed is just too slow. Guessing about a 0.9 would be the sweet spot.
Reccomendation: Dark Stars. If you already made a video on this send me the link
So it's orbital plane is very rare, and it's so close to it's sun that it's losing tons of mass every second... I'm wondering if this planet was formed further away from the sun, or from another system all together.
I wish to visit this great planet 🥰
Why does the planets name sound like a religion
Going by Wikipedia, both the planet and its star have names taken from Thai (which refer to some Hindu stones or crystals)
Specifically the religion that is used to justify Thailand's absolute monarchy.
great video. I'd love to know what program you use to make the images of the exoplanets. They look really good!
SpaceEngine
It's called space engine.
The formal names given to exoplanets shouldn't really be said to be the "actual names" - they're an optional formal name given to generate interest in the planets and are a good method of science outreach. The scientific naming convention is still correct and for astronomers is much less confusing as it means the planets keep the same names instead of needing to keep track of all these renamings and also the survey the planet was discovered in often gives useful information about the planet e.g. WASP planets tend to be hot Jupiters/Saturn's around bright stars, Kepler planets are often longer period around dim stars and in a particular narrow region of sky and so on. While it is nice to use the formal names it's really not very accurate to say people are using the "wrong" names by using the original designation and as a PhD student working in the field I can say it's much easier remembering all the scientific names than all these various formal names.
Other than that great work on the video, hot Neptune's are a really interesting area we know little about, LTT-9779b is another interesting highly reflective one which should have a paper of a full orbit observed with JWST out at some point
these are the same astronomers that have no problem switching the names of the thousands of asteroids that get names. There is zero confusion when an asteroid gets renamed, nobody has trouble remembering it, because there’s a database of all named asteroids. It’s the exact same situation with exoplanets. All the astronomers are just arbitrarily not using the names of exoplanets, but have no problem using the names of asteroids, which are named in essentially the exact same way
If there was actually a problem with using the actual names of exoplanets, we would’ve seen it with asteroids as well. This whole “but the names are confusing” is just a made up problem and i don’t understand why it’s used
asteroid names have meaning too. The numbers at the front can tell you what year it was discovered, it has different letters depending on if it’s a comet or not. But again, nobody has any problem renaming asteroids, but for some reason arbitrarily draw the line at exoplanets
@@Kyplanet893Well I mean the vast majority of astronomers studying exoplanets have never studied asteroids so the fields may have completely different naming conventions alright. In terms of what it's like studying exoplanets all of the database names use the scientific designations and the convention is very much to use the scientific names. I think part of this is the attachment astronomers have to the actual telescope missions used to discover the planets. For example a lot of astronomers have a lot of respect for the Kepler and TESS missions and so they want to acknowledge the mission that discovered the planets. But most of all we are in a very active field of study where the most exciting targets change from year to year and just keeping up with the scientific names is hard enough as is so keep in mind astronomers are just keeping up with an active field as much as they can while also trying to do their own research, write their papers, teach, write observing proposals, etc
I will only like space if we find a habitable exoplanet
me who has heard about phailinsiam, kaewkosin, and the canidate trojan exoplanet:
Hey do you think you can make a video talking about the great attractor and what you think it could be?
its beautiful
i wonder if the polar orbit could be due to serious disturbance by a stellar flyby or similar! very fun!
The Incredible Shrinking Planet!
Phailinsiam sounds interesting!
Buddy, the fact that it is roughly the size of Neptune is not why they think of it as an ice giant. Size has nothing to do with whether a gas giant is an ice giant or not. It’s all to do with its COMPOSITION.
I feel like the system first had an earth sized planet pretty close to the star then a rouge planet came and orbited around the star's poles and slowly attracted the planet into its trojan orbit. im not rly sure tho
Could you please provide any reliable radius estimates for Phailinsiam and its possible trojan? Thanks
Pretty cool!
your favorite exoplanet? yoink, look again. now it's m y favorite exoplanet
I have a theory about its orbit (though this might be wrong so please correct me in the replies if so), I think the reason why its orbit is so weird is that it was once maybe a rogue planet that got caught in the gravity of its star
You should do a video about PSR J1719−1438b
Because planets dont form like that. They’re moved by other bodies in the system -or visiting the system.
How did they determine that it's on a polar orbit? I can see using radial velocity to find out the plane of its orbit, but what's the method to find out how a star spins?
here’s the paper that figured it out iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/ac6e3c
from what i can tell as phailinsiam transits it blocks different types of light depending on where it is, so we could tell it was transitting vertically instead of horizontally
Search "rossiter mclaughlin effect" that is mechanism behind how we figure out that planets orbit their stars in polar orbit
"evaporate in a few billion years"...
I need to know the WORST
Orbitar and it’s not even a competition
Dimidium should have kept the name Bellerophon, change my mind
dimidium is one of the very few planet names i don’t like
the other one being Orbitar
@@Kyplanet893 "Orbitar" almost sounds like the alien planet name a 1950s sci-fi B-movie would use after the production team realized they couldn't use a constellation name like Aquarius or Orion.
I wonder if it was a rogue planet caught by the star and ended up in an odd orbit?
I think you meant phailinsiam was similar to uranus in mass and radius, since uranus is 14 earth masses while neptune is 27, also its closer to phailinsiam in size
Just a small correction
neptune is 17 earth masses, but yeah
Have we found exoplanets around stars tilted on their side like Uranus is tilted or stars tilted on their side
It's too bad we only have a few billion years to research it
Can you name an exoplanet “Pet Rock?”
definitely wouldn’t be accepted
Wow! Cool!
This reminds me so much of Minecraft seeds
The name should be pronounced as Pailinsiam because thats how that gemstone is called. Thai language happens to have a lot of alphabets that could be converted into a P sound in English so people kinda use both P and PH to differentiate them (still not enough) and it leada to pronunciation error like this because PH makes an F sound. I prefer we just use P for all of them because it makes more sense phonetically.
This makes me wonder if Mercury started off like Phailinsiam and its atmosphere was blown off into the orbits of Venus and Earth, leaving behind the dense core we see today.
That is pretty unlikely, it most likely formed as it is today
@@Extrema207 Then why in younger systems do we see hot Jupiters and not Mercury types of planets?
@@JoeBManco We can barely detect mercury sized objects.
@@JoeBManco Because hot jupiters are way easier to detect, they're big and massive
@@Extrema207 I will remind you, it wasn't until finding hot Jupiters that we realized that Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune did not form where they are today. We also once believed that our moon formed independently from Earth. It could be that Mercury has always been like it is from its early days. However, we know very little about Mercury and even less about the conditions that formed the planets of our solar system.
Frankly, if it’s outside the temperatures that support life as we know it, barring somehow being useful- it’s not interesting.
kyplaney can we be friends please i want to present to you some weird astronomy hypotheses i've come up with over time
the trojan will probably be ejected from its orbit as Phailinsiam loses mass though right?
kyplanet cooking up again
how does one find out which material is present on a planet 96 light years away? what's the method for this? can someone please enlighten me
when phailinsiam passes in front of its star, depending on what type of light it blocks we can see what’s in its atmosphere, because different chemicals block light differently
@@Kyplanet893 it's fascinating that chemicals somehow blocking only certain light waves, it's even more fascinating that we have the technology to detect that 96 light years away! Some advanced computer wave stuff this must be
Could it have been a rogue planet that got caught in the stars orbit?
Do a video on GJ-1214 B
There’s been some new studies on it recently so im planning on it
but just so you’re aware GJ 1214 b is an outdated name, and it was named Enaiposha at the same time as Phailinsiam
@@Kyplanet893 😎😎
@@Kyplanet893 well, it isn't really outdated, it's just its designation also i found out that enaiposha is a warm neptune with a temperature of 200°c
So it will turn into a Chthonian planet as well in a few billion years.
henlo
Helloo you stinky bird!
nice. (1 minute checked lol