Did Palpatine Destroy the Empire on Purpose | Rise of Skywalker
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Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Sidious The Senate.
Nope. LOL
Ben and Rey are both Palpatine's. The Emperor is a rapist. Merry Christmas
RGC2005 imagine trying to spoil things for people but being wrong, lol dumbass
At the time of reading this comment had 66 votes execute order 66
Palpatine to sith assassin: kill my granddaughter
Palpatine to Kylo: kill Rey she's my granddaughter.
Palpatine to Rey: hi granddaughter, kill me so I can possess you and take over the galaxy again that I once controlled.
Kudos to this guy trying to create logical reasons behind the train wreck of this new trilogy. Disney should employ this dude.
Yeah we know this wasn't the plan. Disney did not have a plan. and they threw George Lucas is out the window after they told him they would use it. the original director of episode 9 said the emperor had nothing to do with it when he was working on it. that they only came up with that idea last minute when they fired him and brought jar jar Abrams in. so there's no way this was palpatine's plan all along because it wasn't the plan for Star Wars all along! Disney is just retconning and making crap up and this channel is shilling out for them!
@KRYMauL Kathleen Kennedy is part of Disney. Her boss is Bob Igor. Yes she is Disney.
@KRYMauL yeah I know that. And now she runs lucasfilm for Disney... she is Disney. if Bob iger or the Disney shareholders didn't like what she was doing they could stop her. They don't because she's doing what Disney wants.
@KRYMauL Yep, 100 percent.
Kirby Kirby jar jar Adams. Lol. I’m done
"Darth Maul, Darth Tyranus and Darth Vader were just tools for him to play around with."
Darth Vader was a hammer that he dropped on his toes.
A very big hammer
*dropped on his nuts
More like a 10mm socket dropped into an engine bay and it didn't fall all the way to the floor.
Still a tool that he'd replace in an instant, he tried to replace him with Luke
@@andrewft31 exactly and when he tried to replace the hammer it fell right on his nuts
It's great how fans who actually know a thing about star wars manage to create a plausible reason for Palpatine being in episode 9. However I doubt anyone had even remotely something like this in mind, when they decided to bring him back.
I've long since come to the conclusion that the Sequels are just bad-fics/poor-fan'imations that were pushed into viral territory by a tide of money from a desperate, hollowed-out CORPSE of a once-creative company that has Walt & Roy spinning in their graves. I mean for Buddha's sake, this shit makes the live-action Last Airbender look iron-bound-faithful to it's source material and genuinly good besides--THAT'S how bad things have gotten! And what's most galling is that you have the same thing happening with Rebels compared to Clone Wars with executive meddling stifling the efforts of SAINT Filoni, only to push out a decent score in Rogue One and an absolute beauty of a bullseye in The Mandalorian, so WHAT is going on at Quality Control for these films and their surrounding canon, i.e. Battle of Jakku or dare i say the whole 'neo-battlefront' campaign, which is it's own shelf of canned worms?
Yea!
Not like there’s a 20 year old book series about him coming back to life!
Totally made up!
No one thought of that!
All Disney greed!
Wait....
@@katsarelas1947 I'm not referring to the immortality plot itself as bad-fic, it's the execution--i.e. that Disney "had" to re-do it instead of e.g. putting the comics/novels to cinema with/out THEN putting in new stuff for reasons ranging from better flow in a different medium to 'mere' flash i.e. Han's death OR faking-out Chewie's ACTUAL death-by-moon like they 'fooled' us with the shuttle...for like 5 minutes without ANY angst/consequences, BTW...still--that concerned and in short order infuriated me; even the 'highlight' scenes tended to have SOD-breaking moments galore, e.g. the Holdo Manuevre is up for debate--I personally would've loved them doing more with that ala the EU when Palpatine Reborn weaponised the effect against whole worlds with his Galaxy Gun, which was the sort of logic sci-fi series generally follow like when ships are stated to have nuclear reactors so OF COURSE some villain at some point would take advantage of that, & would've presented the oppertunity for evolution of space-battle tactics ala real-life movement from flak-guns to point-defence turrets even if dogfighting remained in effect for starfighters, say, because it's more economical to use lasers and line-of-sight the way 'dumb' droids get you roughly equal results to Terminators on a budget that fits the CIS economist leadership's mindset--but the 'disappearing knife' scene of the Throneroom Battle is 1 of those things that just HAVE to be labelled 'bad' at softest, and as we see in GenTech's video, what i presume to be a few hours or days at most is MORE than enough time to think of at least 1 interesting thread a director can use tying the Sequels if not all 9 movies together--pos. explained via villanous monologue or even the ghost of Rey's father doing a bit of exposition, "my father detested his withered form", that sort of thing--so what prevented the people whose JOB it is to check stuff like that or outright hiring fans for 'proto-screenings' like some companies have started doing DOING said job? This is one of those rare situations where every fan and their grandma COULD in fact do a better job AND in fact have already done so in MANY ways, such as--again--the very video we're posting commentary on!
Also BTW excuse me if you were just putting out a sarcastic line for the hell of it, but this trilogy has stoked my Nerd Side SO HARD i feel the Darkest urge to vent in a mostly-polite, reasonable debate, so any1 that has "missed oppertunity" rants they want to get off THEIR chest are not just welcome but encouraged on this sub-reply-list.
@@thecoroner2650 like you could of made anything better
The Coroner Y’know, I think they could worked on the old Expanded Universe as a separate continuity, like with the Transformers and their shows and comics. Would’ve net them more profit, so I hear
Also, might sound naive but who’s being referred to whenever “Disney” is being mentioned? Corporate executives at Disney? Bob Iger? Kathleen Kennedy? Lucasarts executives? All of the above?
*Palpatine needs to possess someone else’s body* *needs them to kill him first*
Valkorion: Pathetic.
Dark Empire Palpatine: *Laughs*
He didn't, that's just how ol pappy palps gets his freak on
That's how valkorion had to do it too.
@@ExileOfBrokenSky No, he just overpowered their minds while placing his own in command.
You know this whole force possession thing would have made more sense if it wasn't Palpatine that was saying it. Imagine instead it was Kylo Ren saying it, while he revealed that it was he who had turned Vader. It was he whom controlled the Senate. It was he whom allowed his foolish apprentice to believe that he had killed him in his sleep. Wouldn't it have blown your mind to learn that Kylo had been possessed the moment he killed Snoke by an ancient Sith that went all the way back to the creation of the rule of 2? That would give a lot more depth to the rule of 2. Why would anyone want to train someone that they know will one day kill them, unless they are sure that they would be possessing a much more powerful body?
This is an excellent theory, although I don’t think JJ Abrams and Rian are capable of thinking that far ahead.
Agreed. With the 10 000 director swicht during trilogy it is unlike the "original" secret plan COULD survive.
Yeah way to advanced and time consuming for these individuals.
We know they weren't! the original director of episode 9 said the emperor had nothing to do with it when he was working on it that they only came up with that idea last minute when they fired him and brought jar jar Abrams in. so there's no way this was palpatine's plan all along because it wasn't the plan for Star Wars all along! Disney is just retconning and making crap up and this channel is shilling out for them!
I feel like JJ should have directed TLJ and rian should have directed TRoS
Well, your half wrong and half right. Palpatine set up a contingency plan incase his empire fell which is operation cinder. Take a look at the final order and first order. He decided that if he fell that the empire must evolve into something more. Palpatine learned the ability to survive and live. He found out about exegol during the years of the empire, and would rebuild from the shadows, he also creates a new leader to make people think a new enemy came with the first order. Snoke. He also wanted to test Kylo ren with using the rule of two. Which was to kill the master to gain power. That was when he waited to the right moment for Palpatine to reveal himself. And the rest is self explanatory if you saw the movie.
Operation Cinder: a.k.a. Emperor Rage Quit - "Break all the toys, I am done!"
TheTruthIsGonnaHurt haha
Sounds about right with papa palp's
Ideas for videos SPOILERS
Palpatine’s life before the senate: Wife and other stuff.
Who is general Prye? Is he a reincarnated Tarkin?
How was Snoke created/used by Palpatine?
Is Han secretly strong in the force and a Jedi ? (Ben's vison)
Was the death star remains with the sith holocron, I mean wayfinder on Yavin or Endor and why didn't Palpatine tell Snoke to grab a valuable artifact to the sith home world that's not Korriban (eh?) and secret base?
Why would AWOL Stormtroopers purposefully hid out on the planet with death star space Nazi remains? Wouldn't they know space neo-nazis would want to search for relics?
Did Kylo Ren find some hyperfuel in order to get from the death star remains to exegol in what looked like a standard tie fighter?
How does one hyperspace jump skip into what was a planets atmosphere without jumping into a building, planet, or pod of purrgil. Didn't seem Poe did calculations, did Han know how to do that?
I’m sure Pyre is gonna get a comic or something
@@smeegpeeg479 yeah that line was cool did you see his eyes , not sure if that's just reflection or was he possessing him to some extent
Dude read the Legends and Expanded continuity.
Second, Darth Sidious created Contentious plan when his original body of his dies or disintegrated he transfer his essences to another clone "look alike" that Resemble him but he doesn't like it
Thirdly, my dude Sidious can make clones of every one, have you played force unleashed 1 and 2? Darth Sidious created another clone of Galen marek AKA starkiller
Fourthly, Darth Sidious can FORCE DRAIN someone's life basically Soul steal his ass look at the Resembles of Darth Nihilus abilities you uncultured bum
P.S everyone please read the Legends and Expanded continuity before someone believes Disney BS.
The main character in Star Wars is Palpatine, change my mind.
It truly is the Palpatine saga.
Prequels: The rise of Palpatine over the Republic/Empire.
Main trilogy: The removal of Palpatine from the Republic/Empire.
Sequel trilogy: The defeat of the evil that sustained Palpatine. The fate of the Republic takes a back seat to the fate of the Force. (The Republic will always be at risk until the spiritual conflict of the galaxy is resolved.) The films rip the romanticized cover off the Dark Side, showing the true twisted depths of that way. We see the unholy way Palpatine clung to life, we see where the Sith come from, and we see them finally defeated on their homefront.
He truly comes across as a demon in the new film.
Evil incarnate.
@@jonqstudies well one of the worlds at least I don't know if exagale was the first sith world but probably one of the old sith worlds. I was also like okay now snokes death makes sense. Just one snoke abomination of many in water tank. so I guess he just sent snokes out whenever he needed to or wanted to lmao.
@@johnhoran9840 But yet the Evil Incarnate that is just too dam funny lmao.
@@yagdtigercommander yes they just snook out one day lol
If Palpatine survived the events of ROTJ, so Disney might be telling us that Hitler didn’t kill himself and escape to Argentina
I wouldn't be surprised if they just said fuck it and made a literal Darth Hitler
And Force Ghost Obi Wan, Yoda and Anakin didn't warn everyone because...
@@Iriamu-Guillermo the will of the force
@@starlight0313
If the force told you to jump off a building to your doom would you do it?
@@Iriamu-Guillermo fuck no
Sidious didn't implant/impregnate etc. Not directly. As I recall from the Plagueis novel, Anakin was a reaction of the Force to Sidious and Plagueis working to tip the galaxy toward darkness; the Force reacted to their immense dark side power by creating Anakin as their equal in the light.
Hold up dudes. If Anakin is the force baby of Palapatine, ain't Kylo and Rey related? I mean it could've gotten pretty incesty real quick
That's why Kylo died.
Like when Leia kissed Luke, he suddenly realised he was related to Rey, and he willed himself to death like a dolphin so he didn't have to deal with that.
Ben and Rey are both Palpatine's. The Emperor is a rapist. Merry Christmas
What's up with incest in star wars?
I mean genetically wise, no. But veryyyyy much morally wise 😂
To me Anakin will always be the unwanted accident of Plagueis' force experiments and not disney's overobsession with retconing everything
Thank you Allen for everything you do brother, if I'm sad or bored or just feeling lonely I'll put on one of your videos. I love starwars and I love learning more about it. I hope you have a great New Year!
Matt D, I share some of your sentiments. His vids are so well put together, that they’re a comfort.
Hey i hope your doing great man, never be ashamed of who you are
It just dawned on me Obi wan was so ready for his duel with anakin not only from all their time and training together, but from all his battles with Maul. Maul put him through hell and basically gave him more experience fighting sith than any other Jedi of the time. So not only did he know Anakin/Vader, he knew the Sith, and how they think/fight.
As true as that is, no 2 sith are alike.
I mean considering his orders to Gallius Rax he definitely destroyed the empire purposely
A shame that was supposed to happen in the event of his death...which didn't happen...
The Star Destroyers in Rise of Skywalker aren't just retrofitted Imperator-class Star Destroyers, they are actually Xyston-class Star Destroyers; however, I will admit that they are just upscaled versions of the Imperator by a factor of 1.5 (making it 2,400m long), so these Star Destroyers are clearly supposed to look like the original Imperator-class Star Destroyers.
The thing we didn’t see in Rise of Skywalker, was the part of Palestine’s plan, where after he would then go to his home world, of Naboo. And bow to his master....
*meesa back*
Some Random Communist 😂😂😂
Why not? It makes as much sense as anything else in this non-canonical trilogy...
Do not mock Darth Jar-Jar!
Mercurial Silver are you speaking to me? If so, I am just showing respect to our dark lord and sith
Some Random Communist stfu commie
If emperor plan for the new Republic to abandoned their navy fleet then only order his loyal first order fleet to take over the new Republic is simply genius. Since he target and destoy all 3 important Republic planet (where all his enemies are focus and instant destroy in one go)
Hi Allen. I believe the reason why nobody came to help Leia on Creight was, that after the fall of the Empire, many worlds found out she was the daughter of Vader (Anakin).
I think you're head canon is better than what Disney slapped together.
@generation tech
all other reviews were 'I hate it, I liked it, it sucked as part of the saga but was good as a standalone..'
You had a deep analysis and original content of the SW universe.
Well done!
When it comes to the lightning being reflected, I'm if the opinion that it just stripped away an illusion he had around him. The dark side wears away and rots the body, causing the appearance palps had. I don't get why he'd allow his own attack to damage him so much, even if it'd help him garner sympathy with the senate.
I always wondered why Palpatine was so lazy with the empire. It was uncharacteristic of him but now it makes sense. He played the really long like multiple lifetimes long game
Only to die again, in the moment of his greatest triumph, again.
Nah Marc, it's because some dumbass that wrote shitty Star Wars fanfiction as a kid somehow ended up writing the script to the last Star Wars movie. Criticise ole Lucas all you want, but goddamn were the prequels a million times better than these last 3 shitfests. Rise of Skywalker ain't got nothing on Revenge of the Sith
@@ericharrison7518 r u done crying
Palpatine is the ultimate Star Wars villain, it was AWESOME!!!! having him in Rise of Skywalker
More the like, he was awesome and they had to resurrect him somehow because they had no other awesome villains.
It's Bonkers.
Death Star 1 blown up, Empire continues. Death Star 2 blows up, Palps collapses his own Empire, only to create a First Order which starts another campaign to conquer the Galaxy - he once ruled and then wrecked for no good reason - and build a new Empire. But this time Palps does not supply the First Order - which he controls through Snoke - the Planet killing Star Destroyers it needs to do the job. Instead he has them _TURNING A ENTIRE PLANET INTO A MULTI PLANET KILLER_ even though he has these thousands of Star Destroyers that could do a whole lot more destruction and evade a enemy that cannot track them through Hyperspace. So he then plays a silly game with Kylo and his Grand Daughter to provoke Kylo in to killing his Supreme leader Puppet - which he utterly controls and even has some spares lying about just in case - and then offers Kylo - who now controls Palps own FO - this fleet to.... STOP STOP.
WTF. This is nuts. Over convoluted madness. Who wrote this Fan fiction shit ? It even had the Hero girl snog a patricidal mass murderer who is so deranged he forgives HIMSELF - by imagining his Father forgives him - for murdering his Father AND the Culpability of the Holocaust of Trillions?
WTF! I mean... *_WTF !!_*
And to think they thought George Lucas couldn't write any better !?
*BONKERS*
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Even tho we only get
a Glimpse of those awesome ships,
Luv the way the look.
You asked the same question I did. During the old republic he's a master of the long game but by Endor he was regularly eating stupid pills and couldn't guess that Vader might betray him to save his son.
A man who always had a contingency plan or three invited the entire rebellion to his top secret battle station and was surprised by Darth Vader's betrayel.
This really just feels like a lot of mental gymnastics to make rise of skywalker look like it had a semblance of sense
Just saw Rise of Skywalker, and this seems pretty legit. It makes sense that Darth Pelagius originally developed his body snatcher technique and planned to use it on his apprentice (and had probably done this a few times before) which is why Shiv killed him in his sleep instead of challenging him directly. The whole thing with Anakin and Luke fits EXTREMELY well this way; Palpatine spent most of the prequel looking for a suitable replacement for Darth Maul and then most of the OT looking to replace Vader.
I can't really buy the Empire being set up to fail, though. I think at heart Palpatine was an ultra nihilist and was mainly looking to create a galaxy where the strongest could reign and thrive at the expense of the weak. Probably figured that this would help him single out potential candidates for replacement bodies; anyone who could survive the rat race would be powerful enough for his purposes.
Did you just make all that shit up you said in the first minute? The 1000 year darkness pretty much says there was a worse time for the jedi.
Just saw the Rise of Skywalker, went in with neutral expectations and i thought it was ok. Its one of those movies where its better to watch and form your own opinion, rather than listening to the echo chamber.
I went in with massively low expectations, and it was meh, it was better than Last Jedi. People say that it ripped Dark Empire, which is partially true, but I don't think it is worse than Dark Empire, mostly because Dark Empire is rubbish.
It makes no sense, the movie never even explains how palpatine survived at all.
@@lumen101 Palpy only mentions the dark side, so im not sure, really.
I still prefer, like with most things, the legends version of palpycreeps rule. He was possibly trying to prepare for the Yuuzhan Vong
Bruh you making cry 😭😭😭🤧 the Legends won't come back
Completely agree this film changes the whole 3 previous movies into something amazing and clicked the first order and all that being his real plan like wow
The Death Star being a prototype for the Final Order fleet? That's crazy to think about
basically this whole sequel trilogy is a remake of the original
With alot of dark empire mixed in
This is a great video. I consider myself a Star Wars snob and don’t follow Star Wars theories much.There’s definitely enough material in this universe to nitpick and theorize about. Your video makes complete sense. And if this wasn’t the plan it will most likely be retconned to in the future. Keep up the good work.
I forgot about that Return of the Jedi scene!!! It all makes sense!!!!!!!
Wait darth plagius wanted immortality and figured out how to influence life through midichlorians right. And for the emperor to gain immortality he needed to be struck down? Didn’t emperor Palpatine strike down plagius what if that is plagius in the body of emperor palpatine still trying to live forever
Go see the movie, he literally says this
Sorry haven’t seen the movie yet just speculating nevermind
it's just the old theory that every Lord of the Sith is Bane, who jumped from body to body.
So is Palpatine Darth Bane or Darth Plagius?
@@coinkidink9997 I'd go back to the inception of the Rule of Two: Bane.
At first I thought your channel was annoying but now I watch you everyday lmaooo
The Xyston class Star Destroyer wasn't a repurposed Imperial-II class, it was a new design that closely resembled the Imperial-II class, but there the similarities end. The Xyston class is 2.4 kilometres in length as opposed to the Imperial-II class's 1.6 kilometres, and it has two fighter bays, one on each side of the ventral axial superlaser. The superlaser draws its power directly from the main reactor, much like the Death Stars of the Old Empire, but with a much faster recharge rate. And since there were at least a thousand of these planet-killing ships, this basically represents the ultimate evolution of not only the Star Destroyer class but Sheev Palpatine's Grand Plan.
No Senate. No Regional Governors. No judiciary. No army. No regime. It is just the Emperor, his fleet of planet killer ships, and the uncountable subjects of the Emperor himself. The very essence of the Final Order is this -- "Obey my every word and decree, or your world dies."
I must admit this is the first time I think of the empire and how it could lose from that tag tag fleet of the rebels. I always assumed the explanation in the thrawn books that his will made it possible that empire coordinated and work together better in battle. But in hindi sight that would mean that without him they were even worse and that's hard to imagine!
No I believe indeed he created a flawed empire, just as his droid army was flawed. And the clone army was rigged to betray the jedi and the republic.
I think the only thing he did not plan was his own dead, but even for that he had safeguards in place for that unlikely event. The first order is probably an improvised version to give him time to adjust his endgame and gain enough strengt to create his final order for the galaxy.
I do think he wanted to trick ray into believing he died and she becomes empores. , in truth after that his spirit would take over her body and he would still rule. I don't believe he will give up power for any one. Not even an grandchild.
Why not ben? Simple that was no Palpatine.
The book, audiobook in my case "darth plagueis" shows just how devious and strong palpatine is. Well worth a read or listen. Gives alot of back story to palpatines rise as a sith lord. Also I love how palpatine shows up in my auto spell or auto correct whatever the hell you call it.
This video has a number of outright mistakes. Chief among these include Palatine creating Anakin. Anakin was created accidentally by Darth Plageuis; NOT Darth Sidious. Also, Darth Sidious/Palpatine did have a plan called "the contingency," but that's not the same as planning for the Empire to intentionally fail. It's more likely, and implied in the contingency that Sidious finally realized what his master, Darth Plageuis, realized that the force can strike back against him. Also, the Empire clearly abused people and resources, BUT that's not the same as a scorched Earth policy. It's not the same at all actually.
Not to mention the constant mixing of Canon and Legends info. The comic in which Vader sees a vision of Palpatine creating Anakin inside Shmi's womb doesn't canonize that theory, and a member of Lucasfilm Story Group has confirmed that the vision was an "unreliable narrator".
Also the new Star Destroyers are indeed a new variant, and were made not terribly long ago seeing as how the Dreadnought from TLJ was a predecessor to this final design.
Generation Tech barely tries anymore I swear, the lore is available but they seem to not care whether the videos are accurate so long as they get lots of views :/
The contingency really does seem like a plan made to make the remains of the Empire crumble away. We're talking about operation cinder right? The point was to burn away what remained of the old empire so that eventually in some decades it would make way for both the first and final orders.
@@pseudonymousbeing987 That's just an assumption though, whereas we know from cannon sources that "the contingency" was IN CASE the Empire fell; not a plan for it to fall.
@@rmhouser19861
Right, I agree. How does this change anything? Either Palps planed to use his newfound power with Luke's body and therefore not require a rebuilt bettered empire because he would be able to handle the Jedi and rebels. And he made sure there was a backup if this failed and he would have another way to eliminate his enemies.
@@pseudonymousbeing987 I understand, but the debate is whether it was all planned. It clearly wasn't. The name "contingency" pretty much makes this explicit, as a contingency is a provision for an unforseen event.
Why is it called the battle of crait not the seize of crait
It is a battle AND a siege... from a certain point of view.
A battle would be both sides trying to destroy each other but a siege would be one side attaching the other side when the seconde side is in a fortified location try to last as long as possible.
Another example is the siege of both as they are both very similar.
@@MonkeyJedi99 How does Finn know about Eggs ? (It will crack that door like an Egg) They must have served them in the first order since it's all he knew...it means they had chickens on the Supremacy...would have been cool to see a chicken running around among the Chaos when Finn fought Phasma..Porgs were live birth , as chewey was munching on a new born.. so no egg's there.. what world raised chickens for the first Order?
never mind they had chickens on Tokodana, and Batuu..figures..
@@planegaper chickens aren't the only creatures that lay eggs.
0:20 Not watching the trailers is better!
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Nope Disney failed to prepare the trilogy properly.
Some might say it was KK's fault for not paying attention.
However before they even thought about starting work on episode 7 they should have prepared all three movies in advance making damn sure to cover every avenue such as if they didn't want the OT be that much a part of the ST to get their reunion out of the way in the first movie.
Palpatine was never the intended villain for episode 9, what happened is that Abrams established the first movie intended for Rian to follow it up and Colin to finish it.
However Rian saw a chance to do both movies and deliberately fcuked up his movie knowing Colin would protest and because of his movie flop Rian used that to get Colin fired instead of himself.
BUT they didn't let him do the movies he wanted and stuck with parts of two movies both uncompleted he had to merge the two to make something worth releasing.
Quite probably as an after thought he refused to keep Luke alive despite it being the obvious move after Carrie Fisher passed away.
JJ clearly has no idea about Star Wars beyond the basics remember his deal is the mystery box but answering those mysteries isn't something he does normally.
Faced with Rian's mess instead of something creative and new he instead like he did with episode 7 he looked back for an answer and not paid attention to the EU that Disney turned into Legends well not enough anyway.
Done properly he should have revealed Palpatine we meet in this movie is a clone and a younger version.
Snoke a member of the Emperor's inner circle usurped power keeping the clone in his tank until he was killed and they recognised his treachery releasing the clone who is now trying to regain his throne resulting in the First Order going to war with their predecessor the Empire.
What remains of the Republic backs the Resistance however Leia died between episode 8 and 9 but Luke is revealed to be still alive courtesy of Ezra Bridger grabbing him and tossing without his clothes to the world where Rey & co have docked.
By the way Luke has a wayfinder why didn't you just use the one he picked up in the Battlefront 2 story and have that point the way to the Emperor's secret hideout?
I better stop this is getting insane!
Disney had nothing to do with they just distribute the movies, blame the lucas film board that the second they relized they didnt have to work hard anymore and hired director's that didnt understand how to make a good star wars movie.
@@bolt7047 Now that's a theory I can believe!
"You see when Anakin lost all those limbs, and skin... and vital organs, he was severely weakened as well." LOL
Pretty much sums it up. The Aftermath novels really helped tie it in. But I want to know how Darth Sidious survived, his body is damaged in ROS, it is him. Did he survive through World Between Worlds, something he learned through Momin's Mask or maybe Sith Alchemy? That Dark Side construct on Exogal seems very old and very relevant to his survival.
@Nathaniel Winchester He had some access when he attacked Ezra and Ahsoka through a portal into the World Between Worlds. He didn't learn all he needed to know since Ezra resisted and the Temple sank. Maybe it took him a while? Or maybe that World Between Worlds research is just connected in some way or the knowledge he gained benefited him in his return. Hopefully the Novelization or a comic series will explain it.
Another question I have is I've heard so many times that after Anakins defeat on Mustifar he lost a good bit of force ability with his limbs being cut off and he'd never live up to his potential but Yoda is no bigger than Anakins Trunk and he's always in the top 5 most powerful light side users. In this it doesn't seem that the amount of flesh you have should count to your power level.
It's not so much that his power was diminished but that a good portion of that power was now diverted to just keeping him alive and functioning. That's how I've always viewed it anyway.
"nations are designed to rise and then fall" ... eh? no? who set's out with a grand plan to design a nation with the intention of it falling? historically a lot of them do, but it's not like that's the default setting.
PW Fandom I agree, if anything nations are designed to last as long as possible
Yes- all nations fall in time, but no one who makes one has any intention of having it die: this guy is just pulling off a shit ton of mental gymnastics to justify this turd of a film (which is part of a turd of a trilogy that should have never been made).
@@FrankCastle-tq9bz exactly...and I don't blame him--he loves the saga and wants to make it work, even with these last few disasters, he wants to make it work. It's admirable, but sometimes you have to call a turd for what it is--a turd.
I got to admit Allen you actually made that movie make sense I'm impressed. They should hire you as a spin doctor at Disney. I'm not being sarcastic or talkin down you actually did make that movie make a lot more sense. I still don't like the movie but you made it a lot better than it was. As always I like your videos Allen you're a hell of an intelligent guy
0/10 not enough Pervy the perv trooper
Someone must get that reference
Is that a mother fricking zanny references?????
Adri Hidayanto yep
Hands down, Palpatine is one of the best villains in history!
I think Palpatine's ultimate plan was becoming transgender.
What?
The darkside is a pathway to many abilities, some considered to be non binary
@@take7upyours822 🤣
Maybe the force lightning did mess him up
So Sidious was trying to accomplish what Emperor Vitiate did centuries before. So.... is Vitiate now canon?
"im surprised I didnt see this coming!"
how could you? Lucasfilm, JJ, et. al. were just as surprised as you because the whole thing was pulled from the arse
It's fiction. It's all pulled from an arse.
Alan, that shit is BRILLIANT! THANK YOU for an entirely new perspective on this story that means so much to me. GT and Star Wars Theory are my 'go to' channels. You guys rawk!
So having a large army to control and take resources from other planets makes no sense, yet apparently having that same army floating in the middle of nowhere for 20 years only to blow up the planets you could have been getting resources from all this time makes perfect sense? Right. I'm more inclined to believe Disney just totally screwed it up.
The Empire Already had some Nazi references - but I have another theory conerning historical references: The Clone Wras actually were the French-German war after which the German Empire (the one with an actual Emperor) was created - it ended in a revolotion, but in the aftermath of the war and the economic troubles (Great Depression etc.) the Germans didn't like the Republic of Weimar, that is how the Nazis (who rather equal the First Order except the Nazis had a more subtle way of taking over) could take over power. Sorry for the typos btw, as one might have guessed I'm German, my English is not perfect and my computer won't correct comments in English with the current settings.
The true definition of “If I can’t have it, nobody can”
Sorry I'm a little late to the party. Anyway I'm glad I wasn't the only one that picked up on Sidious trying to get Luke to strike him down as he did Rey many movies ago. They did a great job with the short but sweet love story vs turning it into a Disney special Rey & Ben love story. I was over all happy with it.
He did abide by the rule of two.
His true apprentice was always
DARTH BINKS
This shall be treated as canon
In my opinion Palpating was not infallible and made his share of miscalculations but he was THE ultimate tactician. He ultimately failed with Anakin, Luke, Leia, Ben and Rey. But he clearly had contingency plans in every pocket all leading to similar outcomes. Never stopped moving forward no matter what happened.
Only thing wrong is the star destroyer. It is a new star destroyer class, it's the Xyston - class with a length of 2,406 meters. It's just based on the Imperial - I class.
With a huge planet, death star like killing boner.. that seems to be taken out with one shot on the exterior of the gun. No exhaust port, no internal cavity run to the generator. That and apparently a single sith planet that's not Korriban must have resources to feed fully manned star destroyers. JJ sucks.
Please make Earth in Star Wars videos in the future?
@@frenchsoldier8485 Whatever...
@@frenchsoldier8485 of the what now?
9:25 not necessarily. For example the total war, war time economy during the second world war is largely what is credited with pulling the world in general and the US in particular out of the great depression, that said a sustained total war will still do a number on the economy, but primarily because it involves the destruction of vital infrastructure and the mass loss of human life.
Destroy all aliens 👽👽
So basically the entire Star Destroyer fleet was the Conqueror from Legends-an ISD with a Death Star laser attached to it. Great.
Just made the connection Palpatine = Orochimaru.
What he is completely missing is that the Empire was following the old model of the Sith Empire that came before it. In fighting, total war mode even in peace time, a harsh yoke on its people, all the things that Darth Bane realized was the down fall of the Sith Empire of that time. Sid only did what the ancient Sith would have done, what any of the flawed Sith that Darth Bane had destroyed would have done. The final nail in the coffin is that Sid decided to follow the Rule of One, seeking immortality for himself and not the progression of the Dark Side as a whole. He abandoned Darth Bane's teachings and returned to the ancient Sith's teachings; thus resulting in the destruction of the Empire just as Darth Bane had seen.
Agree with Alan. How does Palpatine hold it together for so long, then takes over the galaxy with Vader and make such a mess of it. I think a mix of over-confidence and paranoia got to him. His rule of one, versus the Sith Rule of Two was the other. In the end, I don't think he knew what he was doing. Why was Snoke even in a cloning tank - he served his purpose. Leaving the Sith fleet in a literal cul-de-sac, a fait accompli. So much wasted resources, directionless without a point.
I just saw the film, a little scary lol
@Emerio Manzano Palpatine, Ben Solo, Leia, General Hux and C3P0 (he gets his memory wiped so he sort of died)
Emerio Manzano sane way padme died i geuss
@Emerio Manzano she gave her life to connect to Ben to lure him back to thr light
@@darthraver but artoo had a back up so back from the dead.
Which was really BS tension building because how they had to wipe 3PO's memory I'm like staring at the screen wanting to say "BACK UP C3PO TO BB-8 OR D-O, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE!!!!!"
@@ClayandPapyrus related (grandmother grandson) them Naboo genetics are a bitch
I just had an aha moment.
Palpatine is like Lelouch from Code Geass
In wookiepeida those S.D's are bigger and modded , not just the axial laser for sustained blasting
Given enough time, enough material and enough hope. Yes, you can create a scaffolding of bits of driftwood, semi-adhesive tree sap and a platform of dry leaves to hold up the massive ball of illogical that is the sequel trilogy's writing, story and characters.
+respect Allen for remaining hopeful for the franchise we all love (to now hate)
So kinda like the dark empire of legends as well as maybe want to conquer the universe
I doubt that Palpatine's Plan A was to build the Empire, destroy it and then rebuild it in 30 years, but as his backup plan if Endor failed, it seems reasonable enough. As Sith Lords go.
How goofy you may be at times Alan, that bombshell you dropped about why Palpatine wanted Luke to kill him in Ep 6 and the true goal of Operation Cinder blew my mind!
When you’re the main character of an entire saga but the family that fought you for generations gets the name instead
I wondered - The Empire could easily have endured and been loved by the people, while the Rebel Alliance vilified - BUT - The Death Star, suddenly ruining economies that had depended on the Empire (yes, the New Republic did worse on the economy), and so much more. It seemed like the Emperor had become senile and destroyed his own Empire.
This was his final order, this was his final plan, you could even call it his final solution
_Star Wars_
*FALLEN JEDI* (😂)
Mace Windu Chronicles
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what
"I'll make it legal!"- Palps
Bro we were playing checkers while Palpitine was playing underwater chess.
Dislike because it's a Rise of Skywalker video
What a baby you are
@@vietcongwarlord6931 wait... But we're allowed to hate on the Last Jedi that was more coherent?😆
Palpatine is basically the G1 Bionicle equivalent of Makuta!!!
I don’t think being thrown into the vent by Anakin was part of the plan. But he did have a plan for his own defeat. Operation Cinder served two purposes first to prevent the Empire’s victory, he’d rather deal with the New Republic than he would an Empire that had realised he could be replaced. And second to find the most loyal and amoral of them to become the founding members of the First Order.
is there a lore video that explains why there are so mennie "humans"in the star wars galaxi? ore are the humans like the rabbits of the galaxi? i can understand that if you look at it of making the movie that the vfx deparment has a tof job at it maken ervy body an alien. bud cant find a video that explains it lore wise
Eckhartsladder made a video on why humans are the dominant species in the Star Wars universe.
Liam Walsh thank you
I kinda wanted palpatines plan to go through just to see what would've happened
No he didnt, He shouldnt even have come back
Disney Lucasfilm should pay you for doing their job for them.
Palpatine the most patient man in the galaxy
The star destroyers are a new model Ben, the xyston class, 2400 meters long compared to the imperial class 1600 meters. Just wanted you to know so you don't make this error again.
Sincerely, Mr. Fulbright.
Another great video! Thanks Allen!
Im sorry but this makes no sense. You say he wanted total control and not be bound by the opinions and remnants of the republic. Yet all the repurcussions of his negative acts could have been wiped at the battle of Endor, had he won. All the jedi dead with Luke gone. He could have continued making the death star destroyer fleet and just do the same thing from the top. Why did he need to jump into an exploding reactor core to do the same thing from the shadows? Also how could money be a problem in his rule of the empire when its not a problem at the unknown regions? He could have just used the same funds from Coruscant. Also Luke was supposed to be his intended vessel. Do you mean to say that he planned to fail at turning him or he was actually surprised it turned out bad and thats what killed him? In which case it wasnt all according to plan.
Also, there used to be Sith force ghosts its a force power after all Naga Sadow plus a lot of others managed it but that seems to change depending on what plot holes need filling.
Sidius said that he doesn't need Empire what can't protect its Emperor. Even if he would survive Death Star (eghm) Empire was already in proces of decomposition with numerous officers and government workers turning the side after Alderon. From his perspective it would make more sense to take most loyal forces and rebuild Empire in the secret (First Order). Then try save rotting structure, what could create strong local Empire remnants, what could possibly oppose his plans later as new rulers would have own business. In fact speeding unavoidable collapse would ensure that Republic would be full of itself and start repeating mistakes what lead to its fall on the first place. Something what actually did happen, like for example with whole ban on the Photon Torpedoes and withdrawing support to Resistance. It in fact totally do make sense form strategical point of view.
TheRezro but this video says Palpatine orchestrated the events that lead into the destruction of alderan. Hence making the weak empire that was incapable of defending him. Also even after alderan the empire was insanely strong. Had he not been stupid at endor, the main rebel fleet would have been gone. It makes no sense. Why would you be better equipped to do the same changes while you are obscure and pushed at the end of the galaxy. Opposition will always happen against a tyrannical rule. This video implies that the final plan to counteract that were the thousands of death star destroyers threatening every planet. Why did he have to become obscure for that if a)he already made the fleet from epire money by Ep 6 or b)he made it from magical unknown region money which he could have used from the empire. Also I fail to see how alderan (suspected supporter of rebel alliance) was a reason to leave but destroying 5 main capital planets wouldnt be. I get the video saying people hated the new republic but thats still probably trillions of people dead. If one of them caused mass desertion then the other would too
@@nemdenemam9753 I can't comment creator opinion, but I don't see how Palpatine would ever support destruction of Alderon. It was purely decision of Tarkin, who was given full power over that region and looking down even on Vader. The true purpose of Death Star was to fight with Yuuzhan Vong Worldships. It is also why majority of empire fleet was at the time in unknown regions. But after Endor it become clear that everything would collapse and ignorant Republic is far less threatening then rebellious Empire Remnants. When main fleet would finally back.
@@TheRezro alderaan was a supposed rebel sympatizer. Palpatine supported destroying 5 main planets with a much greater populace in Ep 7. I dont see how its incompatible with his character.
Also if destroying Alderaan was such a big deal (as in millions deserting for it) then I dont see how Tarkin would have had that much autonomy. I think its plausible that he had at least a skype call before destroying billions of people (if we are going by headcannon as we seem to do). In your version why was Tarkin left in charge? He had Vader by his side every second, so Palpatine knew about everything he did. Palpatine didnt want to destroy Alderann and didnt find it a good idea yet he left Tarkin in charge?
What happens after Endor doesnt have anything to do with why he would orchestrate the defeat at Endor. Which was the starting idea for this whole conversation. Unless you meant after Yavin. Which is a new proposition than the one in the video but its actually more sane imo. But even if it was a decision after Yavin, it makes little sense why someone would give up galaxy wide control for the hope that the following government is gonna be as inept as the new republic is. Especially if someone is fearing for an outside invasion from the Vong. Why would he sacrifice his weapon against the vong then?
Isn't possible to do a "we'll be right back after these messages" or something before a commercial, or does RUclips just randomly insert any which way? Thanks.
Nice! And first!
Just wondering if the Human Replica Droid have been a video topic done here on Generation Tech?
The logic is all there to people who are able to see beyond the suggestions of the negative trolls.
If you don't think the new creators didn't have a plan, didn't minutely scheme out the details to line up with the precedents of the previous trilogies, then I don't know what we can do for you. These are some of the best writers and biggest Star Wars fans on the planet working on these films.
If you simply accept that Palpatine's return was the idea all along in the new trilogy, every other "retcon" or "contradiction" that happens from 7 to 8 to 9 shows itself to actually be an intended plot shift.