Observed Ride - Learning Points #2 | Advanced Motorcycle Riding Hints & Tips
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- Опубликовано: 7 дек 2022
- A collection of clips highlighting learning points and good examples from a recent observed ride. These are mainly from when in town and on dual carriageways as these areas are not as prolific as videos depicting B roads, though there's some B roads and villages included. Thanks again to the rider who gave his permission for me to do this, having found my other videos useful while preparing for his advanced motorcycle test.
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Decent of the rider to allow the recording of his ride to be shared. Good luck on his test.
At 4.20 and riding along a residential street you mention about not doing 30 around there.Many riders and drivers would still maintain 30 mph no matter what the situation was and potential dangers there are or that are likely to occur. . So its nice to have some one who recognises that potential for danger and slows accordingly. That rarely happens on videos and in real life and it should. Every time our vison is reduced and or the potential of danger increases we should respond with a lower speed and not try to keep to the limit which many other videos do.
Thanks. Appropriate speed is all part of the Progress/Restraint balance within Roadcraft and the IAM Course.
Thanks Mike, always helpful to witness an observed ride as we strive for perfection 🏍💨
Keep on striving
NOT BEING PICKY at 31-03 candidate comes to a total stop at a left turn onto a main road-puts both feet down - right hand off the bar,clutch engaged so no brakes applied and my fear would be machine rolling back - or needing to get away quick if treat comes from behind....overall a good ride,and small bit of polish it would be a great ride.
This is a heavily angled junction with a restricted view, and requires a BIG look to the right. Without going into details, it's a requirement to make allowances for a riders physical restrictions. Hence him putting both feet down to steady himself to make his observation.
@@mikeroberts I have a physical problem with my left knee and therefore with placing that foot only down. So its in my nature and practise nowadays to place both feet on the ground when stopped. Having said that as a result of my slight infirmities I now ride an automatic scooter so have no need to keep any foot on any brakes or gear changes . I can brake with both hands and change to the rear brake only,the left hand one when actually finishing the stop. This relaxes the suspension placed under the pressure of slowing and lessens any heavy spring back and possible end wobble.
Very helpful & informative.
Got My first one Sunday…
Glad it helped. Hope the first session went well?
@@mikeroberts it’s was brilliant thank you.
Great footage as always Mike. Might I add at 26.58, there nothing wrong with vehicles flashing (it shows courtesy and awareness), the key is the interpretation from others around. The car is simply saying, look I am here and I have stopped.. Its then up to the rider/driver observing the flash to act thoughtfully carefully from there.
"The car is simply saying, look I am here and I have stopped" That's what he should be saying, but we know they are saying "come on through". No point being stubborn and waiting, but you have to make your own judgement and not feel under pressure from 'the flash'.
Good video nice to see an FJ1200 out on the roads
It's been touring Europe recently.
On some of the bends now heading out of town and onto country roads he could have been slightly more over to he right on left hand bends and slightly more left whilst riding round some right hand bends. The road surfaces permitting of course.
The road surface is something that doesn't show up well on action camera footage. The movement, minimal texture and the data compression leads to the road looking much better than they are. The day was damp and the roads were dirty/greasey. A lot of the time a using the edges of P2 was/is more appropriate.
At 17.00 and on the A 12 he followed a car off the roundabout and one could hear him accelerating but then decreasing his acceleration and speed. At that time there was a sign for a cross roads ahead which might have put him off overtaking [ the rule being not to overtake at or approaching junctions to either side ] but then he overtook and that made him side by side with the car he was overtaking whilst actually passing those crossroads.?
If someone in front is dithering and moving about a bit then that is a cause for concern and under hose circumstances of concern I would not have committed to an early overtake but to pull back until it was made apparent that the driver was more in control of his functions.
The car initially joined in lane 2 and then moved back to lane 1 while fully in control. The junction further up the hill is a turning for a hotel. While I generally wouldn't overtake through a crossroads on a single carriageway road, doing soon a dual is ok as long as you are aware of what vehicles are there. Otherwise what is the point of lane 2 through any junction on a dual if you are never going to use it.?
@@mikeroberts Never said you couldn't use the outside lane at all. The rider in front after entering that road went straight into an overtake position being on the offside and rear of the car. Passing the WARNING sign of a nearside junction and commencing from that overtake in that offside position. As such any vehicle coming out wanting to enter that road from the nearside and looking downhill to their right and being slightly down hill may not have seen his bike of indeed his helmet as he could have been hidden by that car. So that he may not have been visible at all..
He continued to overtake with acceleration to a higher speed at the same time of passing that car and they were both passing the nearside junction. Not a safe place to be in. The H.C., make no differential at all whether the junction is on a single carriageway or a duel one and the junction WARNING SIGN [ being in a red triangle indicates a possible history of problems at that junction ] prior to that junction and was not placed there for no reason. The rider should have,in may opinion slowed and stayed well back in a safer following on position similar to the distancer Mike gave.. rather than placing himself and perhaps others at risk.
It matters not that their their were no cars at that junction at that time as everything should have prepared prior to the junction proper. He should have prevented any possible action against himself by pulling back and making himself more visible.
By the way the outside lane was much dryer than the inside one which again is seen to be well worn. So would it have been possible to use that lane with its dryer surface as opposed to the inside lane and moving around on it between dry and wet conditions. There appeared to be no problem with volume or following traffic as it appeared that he was riding much faster than anything else on that road at that time. That could lead one to be going fast on the dry bits but too fast when moving over onto the wet parts? Perhaps one could compromise and ride a little slower at all times so there is no or less conflict on grip availability. Its anticipated that one can lose up to some 20 % of grip between dry and wet tarmac and probably more than a 20 % reduction if on bends.
About 17 mins in you say he was late, can't have been that late as you followed him through
Thanks for the comment. The point I was making was not that the overtake was unsafe (nor was mine, lots of room) but that he could have made a much earlier decision to overtake a lot further down the hill, not long after leaving the roundabout. The little hatchback was very slow and an easy early overtake, rather than follow it in lane one and potentially get boxed in by other traffic.
5:08 is extremely difficult you have the issue of camber, producing enough reevs and preventing the weight of the bike from leaning down the slope.
Would you be in gear 2 for that hi revs but pulling the clutch in a bit or gear 1?
5:30 would being in the middle of the left lane make the driver behind see them early coming up from the hill tho?
5:08 I'd be in first. 5:30 No, you can clearly see the whole width of the junction as you come up the hill. Wind back a few seconds.
At 8.06 leaving a roundabout with RH indicator on,and only changes to left one when off the roundabout on new route....would say very confusing for following vehicles
Well spotted. 👍The signal change was late. I missed that at the time (probably doing my left mirror/blind spot check as I exited.)
At 15.00 and out on a country road with a speed limit i would consider to be about 50 mph you mention that he was keeping a good following distance., However the road surface was wet after some little rain and the tyre tracks of cars were clearly visible by being shinning and that means slippery with little or no aggregate showing and available for better grip . So his so calked safe following distance should have been far greater than he was actually giving. Mike's position would have been safer. We must pull back on a wet surface and not just when its is raining.
I'd refer you to my reply to one of your other comments regarding how the road surface appears on action camera video. At the time I made that comment he was at a good distance and riding on the dry part of the road.
@@mikeroberts I got him to be about 60 and no further than 90 ft behind that car and on parts of the road that were wet. At say 40 mph one should have been at least 120ft behind and that is on a straight and dry road. one needs to be further away when the road surface even in places is wet. and he was moving positions from 1 to 2 and on to 3 so at times on the wetter parts of the roads so that would have effected his braking distances on a wet road should he have had to brake.
Just as a bye the bye at 2.40 and approaching a roundabout I see that there are small marker posts situated on the kerb side. They are white with red tops. I have never seen them before anywhere. Can you tell me what purpose they serve u in that situation Ta.
They are cycle wands and they have sprung up all over Ipswich on many of the cycle lanes. They have proved controversial to say the least. They are supposed to improve safety for cyclists from wandering car drivers. Personally, as a car, motorcycle and cycle user, I hate the things. As a cyclist they try to force you to go all the way around the outside of roundabouts and make it difficult to avoid the drains and debris in the cycle lanes. As a car driver it is now difficult to get out of the way of ambulances on the way to the nearby hospital (a debate about entering a cycle lane with a solid line is a whole other topic!). There's been so much dislike of them that even more money has been wasted removing a lot of them on the straights.
How does the rider know where to go if there are no coms?
About 10 seconds later I say that I'll be indicating nice and early as we go round the route. They just need to check their mirrors on approach to a junction, as they should be any way. It does feel a little strange at first but building up good rear observation makes it not a problem.
From the accent, Suffolk? Nicely done.
Saarrffok booyy. 😀 And I'm on an agricultural vehicle ... well a Triumph Explorer adventure style bike 🤣😅
@@mikeroberts I'm a Mersea boy (originally) so not so far :)