I still enjoy Gundam Wing, because its messages are still relevant: war for profit; the use of unmanned drones and man's place on the battlefield; the nature of Pacifism.
Whenever I see someone asking "Hey should I watch Gundam Wing" I show them the clip where one character is shouting, off the edge of a cliff for someone to come kill them and then tell them that's the love interest.
I find my self laughing at the things they do in that show lmao. Initially started watching because of the Tallgeese design and Leo. I left on gundam wing when Heero was "unconscious" face down in the water and I can't get over how everything went down atop that sub. I gotta finish my binge on Victory then I'll finally be gucci with UC and get back on wing
When i think of gundam wing I think heero saying to zechs "I'll thank zechs in my own way, I'll kill him, that's how I'll express my gratitude" And then zechs responds with "That'd be fine" Its Ridiculous
don't know what hte message of wing was there was 2 things that i took from it. 1. Automated machines or Drones are a bad thing, it makes killing so much easier when the reality should be that taking a life is a hard and ugly thing to do. 2 war without the loss of life is meaningless. this combines with the 1st thing i i got form it. fighting a war that is only destroying machines is meaningless since there is no sorrow or despair attached to the war, therefore war will continue to happen because people aren't suffering. the loss and devastation of a war reminds those who survived or lived through that time how horrible war really is, its dirty, messy and ugly but with Drones or the mobile dolls there is nothing to give an idea or show how bad war is, just a bunch of machines destroying one another but if you were seeing people rip each other apart. your outlook on the conflict is different
I'm still really new to Gundam (just watched like 10 episodes of G Gundam a month or two ago) and started watching Gundam Wing earlier this week. To be honest? I'm really into the melodrama, just because of how fun it is to be so constantly baffled. Like, Hiiro tries to shoot Relena, another guy shows up to shoot Hiiro, and Relena steps in front of Hiiro to protect him? That shit's wild as hell, I kind of love it! Hard to top the absolute beauty of Hiiro ripping the birthday invite in half and whispering "I'll kill you", though. I see what you mean about it being less on the actual mech usage itself, though. Personally, I'm okay with that in terms of what I'm looking for right now, but I'm glad to hear other series get more into it.
Still holds up to me. But I watch it almost every few years. I learn more the older In age I get and the wiser I become. Start to understand things like what each goal was and why some would purposely loose a fight. You can still achieve your goals by loosing. Kind of an interesting way to look at it. Milliardo still my favorite character in the series.
Gundam Wing as a series is a trainwreck. That being said, I have a bit of a guilty pleasure for the mobile suit designs, especially for the Endless Waltz redesigns of Gundam Heavyarms and the Wing Zero.
Destiny was a literal asspull from Seed. The characters specifically from Destiny were pretty annoying and lame. The only upside was Kira and the cast from Seed for me tbh. New suits are always cool
It's kind of bizarre, but Relena if anything feels like the most consistently-written character in Wing, given she's basically anime Audrey Hepburn circa Breakfast at Tiffany's. Thinking about the show as some kind of wildly-overblown romantic comedy where one perky socialite tries to cope with the antics of five angsty death commandos is actually quite entertaining... but it ain't much of a drama, sadly.
Like most people who live in America Gundam Wing is reason why I like Gundam and Mecca as a hole, however yeah I can agree now that it's a very subpar standard series and Gundam and it may be in my top 10 but it's probably at number 10 or 9. I wouldn't tell someone to start with Gundam Wing if they were trying to get into Gundam but I would say hey after you watched maybe two series go look at this one.
i love Gundam wing it started my anime love and i still watch it to this day. come on first fight heero takes out two units with a shot and laughs, heavyarms just letting loose and duo's funny attitude i still love it
Gundam wing will always be my favorite! It was the first mobile suit show I ever watched on toonami as a kid and I’ll never forget it!! From there I watched all of them basically and I even do gunpla and build my own gundam kits now! It’s so much fun! And all thanks to toonami.!
Ironically, the anime that got me watching into anime during the Toonami boom was Outlaw Star, and through that I got to watch Gundam Wing. I feel like, while both have aged pretty poorly, time has been much kinder to Outlaw Star compared to Wing. The first has aesthetic, style, a primary cast of characters you actually give a crap about with unique backgrounds and skillsets, a story that has a semblance of coherency. Wing has five pretty boys who are all spies who all pilot gundams with efficacy varying from overpowered to glorified jobber, the story becomes incredibly silly even when you try your hardest not to pay attention to it, and everyone has their moment where the story requires that they do something incredibly stupid, and then the story turns back around to tell us these five children are actually super-intelligent and kind-hearted. Thank god Turn A Gundam exists.
Lol To be honest I agree with the Outlaw Star the show didn't age well like Trigun still good but the plot just goes away in the mid season lol but still one of my favs
That “do you… not care?” Killed me, seed was my first and while it holds a special place on my heart for many reasons, I’m very happy it was my first as it lowered my expectationsfor the series as a whole, when I eventually watched 0079 it was kind of surprising to see amuro actually REALLY struggle against char despite having superior equipment, I can only go back to seed now if I’m very high because the beam spams are so pretty to watch
I had the opposite problem because I watched UC first, and the other series just aren’t on the same level. Have only seen UC, IBO, 00, and a bit of Wing
I love Wing for its mecha designs and little else. Despite being a Toonami kid, I never really watched it growing up so it holds no real nostalgia for me beyond playing with the toys my friends had.
I think the best thing that came with Wing and G was that they made a new group in the playgrounds I grew up in. Those who liked G Gundam and those who liked Wing and never shall the two meet.
Loved it on Toonami and I rewatch Gundam Wing in it's entirety about once a year since. Aside from G Gundam I can't really get into the other series at all. I love the angsty melodrama and the political nonsense more and more everytime.
After watching the original Mobile Suit Gundam trilogy when VHS when it first released stateside, I sat through the Wing and felt it was a definite case of style over substance (also felt cheated they hadn’t released Zeta Gundam). It sure looked cool but the plot oscillated between being unintentionally funny, confusing, or just plain strange. I have to wonder how much of the weird pacing and story was due to behind the scenes difficulties or if it was just not very well thought out.
It had A LOT to do with behind the scenes difficulties. Writers getting fired. Producers wanting to quit. Plot points being forced from management. And less than a year to reconcile these things (June to April).
@@MarvinTurner i have no doubt that the english dub made it worse with their odd choices in translation, odd dialog censorship, and likely just plain ignorance of the cultural and philosophical themes the series was (trying to) employ
@@glitterboy2098 I love the series, but yes, these things hurt it. Even in Japanese, the melodrama is sort of incomprehensible, but Gundam Wing's storytelling style is heavily rooted in Kabuki Theater, where the melodrama is the point. To a western audience, it can come off as somewhat forced, or even bizarre, while a Japanese audience will typically get it right away.
G Wing was the second Gundam series I remember seeing on Cartoon Network. I remember watching it, but I don't recall anything other than the Gundam designs. Character design wise and me liking was Zach....
Gundam wing was my 3rd anime I watched and the 2nd I watched start to finish. I loved it when I was a kid. A couple of years ago I rewatched it and oh boy. The plot definitely didn't age well. That being said loved the Gundam designs and Leos are really cool. Also, we did get endless waltz.
After being heralded as the great toonami classic, Wing turned out to be the most mediocre and hard to sit through series for me as I went through the franchise. Heero Yuy in general felt like a very washed down and simplified cardboard cutout of Chirico Cuvie from Votoms, while the ongoing motive of various identities (Zechs and Lady Une) is executed very questionably. Thats not to say it doesn’t have its merits, there are some neat mobile suit designs for various tastes and the score is fun at times. Duo Maxwell is probably among the least head scratch inducing characters as well as the most likable, and the hilarious level of contrived ”I had it all planned all along” twist at the end with Treize brought back the amount of cheese that was present in the first few episodes. Overall it isn’t the worst in the franchise by a long shot, but is a far cry from being the ideal starting point. Great video and series, Im always excited for a new episode!
Best parts of Gundam Wing are Treize Khushrenada, Zechs Merquise and the Tallgeese 1 - 3. I always thought the Tallgeese was way cooler then the gundams in Wing. I also thought the characters of Treize and Zechs were far more interesting then the angry Teens that are a bulk of the characters in the show.
Well you would also be right, those two drive basically the main story, with the gundam pilots really only being unwilling actors hovering around it, you could argue treize, zechs, and the gundam docs being the only REAL players on the table.
Back when Gundam Wing was released and I was myself a teenager deeply interested in the U.C., I used to refer to it as "Gundam for girls" precisely because it was so melodramatic, and emphasized style over substance. I certainly know now that's a sexist comment, but at the time, it seemed fairly apt given that the only girls I knew who liked any Gundam liked Wing, without any interest at all in even some of the newer, prettier U.C. series, like 08th M.S. Team or 0083.
Finally someone else who sees that the characters' actions rarely make any sense. You don't even get a sense of who any of them are because they just behave so randomly.
I've been trying to rewatch Gundam Wing, but have been finding it surprisingly difficult. Plus after having rewatched Gundam Seed, having not seen it and enjoying it all the way back in highschool but not enjoying it recently, I'm kind of not in the mood for another disappointment.
Gundam Wing is the best show to watch with a group of friends and just have fun with. It's an absolute mess of a show where no one acts like a normal person and nothing makes sense.
Wing is absolutely my middle ground for Gundam. I don't actively dislike it, but it's definitely the series I took the least out of. In contrast, X is a favorite of mine and I'm really looking forward to your video.
Wings big problem is its characters. Wufei is introduced committing a war crime, and then takes a break from murdering trainees in their bedrooms, to be sexist and condescending. The show intends us to root for him. Nothing Heero does ever makes a lick of sense, and the show obviously knows this, since it goes to great lengths to constantly tell us how amazing and intelligent he is despite all of the evidence to the contrary. Even his name is crazy because he's apparently intended to be a super spy/infiltrator, but he takes the "code name" of an important, assassinated politician from the recent past. That's like a Soviet agent trying to get into the US in the 70's with a passport claiming he's JFK. It does nothing but call attention to how badly his cover was thought out. The other three barely contribute to the meandering plot. Though, the same can be said for all of the other periphery characters. I only liked Duo because he's the least awful of the bunch, not because he's actually a good character (also, 12 year old me thought that Death Scythe was MEGA RAD).
The first piece of Gundam media I ever got was from a bestbuy when I was like.... 6 or 8 or something. It was a playstation 2 game called SD Gundam Force Showdown! It was based on a spinoff kid's show of chibi gundam and in it there are 3 main "gundam" characters. And this video series has just made me realize that these characters and the dimensions they came from are based off of the UC, G gundam, and wing gundam and this has blown my little mind apart. So thanks for that, and maybe take a look at the SD gundam series at some point?
Childhood memories! I could watch it a million times over again. Such a good show. Obviously you can't compare it to the modern day mech anime because anime as a whole has come a long way but this will always be a classic and raw version of gundam I love.
Gundam Wing is an overly preachy show with a stupid film ending. Person 1 “Lets destroy all the weapons so there will be peace!” Person 2 “But...what if some militant organization makes weapons and attacks us anyway? We would be defenseless.” Person 1 “That would never happen because peace!” (That exact thing happens) Person 1 “bring back the gundams to fight the badies!” (They fight the badies) Person 1 “Okay lets destroy the gundams and this time there will be peace!” Person 2 “.................(annoyed sigh)”
It's definitely nostalgia. I love the soundtrack, art style and direction, and action. But the political intrigue and dialogue, as well as character actions, are so unrealistic I have a hard time getting through the story.
I tried getting into wing but I couldn’t in my opinion it kinda sucks for the reasons you said in the video but I’m glad it exists to bring Gundam to the west
Honest question: how could someone get into Gundam WITHOUT starting with Wing? Wing aired on Toonami thus how me and everyone I know even heard about Gundam back in the late 90s. That said, rewatching it currently. Great show, holds up, I genuinely don't understand the hate
This show was my introduction into the Gundam franchise as a whole. It also didn't help that it was being shown with the original at the time when I watched it.
This was actually my first Gundam and I loved it. I don't think the stories should be taken seriously, just turn off the reasoning part of your brain & enjoy the ride.
I watched it recently, in honor of being the first anime to scare me as a little kid in the early 2000s, seeing the pilot self detonate and lay in puddle of his own neon blood was like "woah! This is real shit" as a 6 or 7 year old... So fast foward like 20 years and i watched it all the way, ... in 1.5x speed xD hahaha it was just way to melodramatic and slow, but overall it had a ending where the mc are still alive which is rare. So that gives it a plus, Gundam is sometimes too real now a days, it can get sad. Wing is 90s never dying.
Gundam wing is one of the very few anime i can tolerate with dubs. Heero is my top MC of all times from Gundam franchise and probably in top 3 of all times for me. I mean how many badass character are there that have the guts to rip of a nobles birthday invitation wipe their tear while telling them gonna kill you to their face
I was so confused by Gundam Wing when I first saw it on YTV in Canada because it was so melodramatic. W-why is he telling that girl he's gonna kill her?? Why does she wanna be killed by him?? What's going on???? ...Just Communicate is still one of my fav OPs tho. That's what caught my attention most.
Too bad YTV used only the first intro. The second and third intros gave us Rhythm Emotion, which I thought was a better theme than Just Communication. But at least we also got the movie version of Endless Waltz, which gave us Last Impression, aka. the Wing Zero reveal theme.
It was the first series I saw like almost a decade ago but I can't stand it after seeing most of the UC. Just comes off as.... Too cave man mentality. "Our gundam powerful... It kill all.. It made of kinda almost impervious metal".
As someone who watched it on toonami, Wing dose not hold up. I can only recommend it to those that are ether, A hardcore mech fans as there are some great mobile suit designs, B dedicated Gundam fans. C those that are interested in the history of anime as wing was the first Gundam to beak out of Japan after multiple failed attempts.
I'm actually begun to watch Gundam Wing, I'm already at Episode 9 and I've been enjoying myself so far. I'm not really sure why I've enjoyed it, but I'm gotten stick it out till the end just to see what I think.
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I think GW had a bunch of big ideas that they had difficulties delivering on. It didn't help that the dub was treated in a kid cartoon style, either. (Some of that stuff is seriously cringe-y, lol.) Also, the voice actor for Relena somehow made many people despise the character in the US, yet she's apparently quite well-liked in Japan. I was most invested in the characters. I've been spending the last few days looking back on this series for the first time since I saw it when it aired on Cartoon Network, and I found that the characters are still dear to my heart. This show had a big impact on me... I know I'm not alone in saying that it was the series that made me like serious anime! But honestly though, I wish someone would take the effort to remake it. I think it had a lot of promise that just didn't pan out... really, some of the best stuff was in the extras. (I think the manga Episode Zero helps the characters to make more sense, just like Endless Waltz helped with the philosophy.)
I stayed up every night pass my bed time to watch Wing on ytv. It was a big part of ytv's later block largely I think due to the dub team being Canadian. I think the dub holds up well compared to many anime dubs of the time. And the story while flawed still one of my favs for the concept. While not my fav I still rewatch. 00 being my fav if you exclude its movie.
I just got done rewatching Gundam Wing. And not gonna lie the suit design pulls it through a lot for me. Never was into the older Gundams. The RX-78 is boring, and while the ZAKU has definitely grown on me over the years. Didn't really do it for me growing up. Having the 5 original Gundams (plus Zero, Epyon, Tallgeese, and the upgrades they get) really made it for me. They were all significantly different from each other. On top of that OZ had the mobile dolls (and also get cooler looking over time. The LEOs while not as iconic as the ZAKU. Do tend to fit the general cannon fodder MS at least in my opinion. They feel more like mass produced military equipment. And it's pretty cool you get to see the Earth Federation still field them after OZ/Romerfeller/White Fang take over as the main bad. All that said if someone new asked if the should watch it? I would probably tell them to just watch Endless Waltz. Cause that has the coolest variants of suits. Then go watch either 08th MS Team, G, or Unicorn. Depending on the person.
You’re out of your mind... Wing was the best series in Gundam and arguably the best Anime ever... the politics alone makes the show so interesting, especially when your an 8 year old watching and learning politics and diplomacy... call it nostalgic or w/e Wing like you said was the reason Gundam was ever going to be popular in the West
Honestly wing and IBO are the only gundam series I like, both for the same reasons: lots of factions, cool, but semi grounded in reality mecha, and wildly different personalities wanting different things. And pretymuch all sides have SOME form of ace pilot or advantage they can use in their way. The only question remains, who would win in a fight: heero or mikazuki?
Haha, I just started playing M.A.S.S. BUILDER and that game has me hella nostalgic for some gundam. Would really like to watch the Origin movies again.
Nothing beats The Original Amaru Ray and Char..But Gundam Wing is like your watching Boybands piloting Gundams..and its a POP! That's why is popular unlike The Original you need to be Adult to understand it ..incase of wing you just to Understand the Pilots manuevers.. And they're Mecha is dope! That's why it's a hit
This was also the series that got me into anime, and i love it for that and other guilty pleasure reasons. I watched it through a couple times including ovas and movie..... other than Earth vs colonies and a sense of the character arcs, i still don't quite understand what is going on LUL reading the wiki page of the Frozen Teardrops sequel just added to that confusion too HAHA at least the characters get some resolution in it
I can't say this show is what made me love mechs and giant robots. That honor belongs to Power Rangers. But this show was my gateway into anime. Which is weird since I watch DBZ and Sailor Moon well before this but I did not see those shows as anime back then.
Wing did get me into Gundam, and anime on the whole as well. As for whether or not I'd say some one should start there, probably not. Gundam 00 exists and is basically 'Wing, but done better' imo, so I'd suggest that before Wing, even if I have .... issues .... with 00s second season that don't exist in Wing. Honestly, funny as it sounds, I'd probably suggest Full Metal Panic as a primer for getting into Gundam, since there's a lot of crossover there that would work, plus, FMP is just good civ.
Gundam Wing is fine. Not the best, not the worst. It's held up...ok. I think a lot of people are way way way too hard on it, but it's not like it doesn't warrent the critique.
I havent watched Gundam Wing yet. I've watched 79 (movies), 0080, WITP, CTA, and 8 episodes into Zeta. I thought the 79 trilogy movie was entertaining but some of it looked and sounded pretty rough.. def not sure if i wanna watch the 79 series. That being said, i'm loving the UC timeline and the 79 movies, at a bare minimum, def needs to be involved
Yeah their plan for ultimate peace is pretty stupid. My favorite bit in the OVA is how they disarm themselves at the start only for an oppressive and armed military force to take over. So our heroes scramble to get their weapons back to beat the military force, then after winning decide “okay guys this time we can destroy our weapons. I’m sure nothing bad will happen ever again……”
The best part of Wing, in my opinion, was Duo Maxwell. Beyond that? I am of the opinion that IBO does what Wing attempted but far better and without being so...confused. And overly dramatic.
Well your not wrong, there is a reason why I'm not much of a fan of all the other gundam series but love wing and Ibo (even though IBO S2 is depressing as fuck, loved the ending battle though)
i started rewatching it when i found out it was on hulu and when gf would sit to watch with me mind you she tried getting me into code geass she was like wtf is this?!
I Think Wing is amazing. Yes it has flaws but it's an enjoyable experience and after getting into the series thanks you Build fighters and Build fighters try, Wing was my first taste of a series that is the norm for the franchise with it's political drama and how war is bad.
I had never watched wing outside of the movie. I'm watching it right now...It feels like a retelling of the OG series with cool new 90s MS and way less depth. It's kind of all over the place and hard to follow. I want to watxh zeta however I can't find it anywhere.
One of the first animes I watched and the Heero/Relena relationship is what sucked me in. It’s more complex and makes more sense in the manga (and gets less toxic over time) the manga is way better, but I still have love for the goofy anime 😎
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I still enjoy Gundam Wing, because its messages are still relevant: war for profit; the use of unmanned drones and man's place on the battlefield; the nature of Pacifism.
You can say wherever you want about GW, but boy oh boy, they foresaw the future.
Yeah, but what about the execution? A person can speak about relevant stuff all day, doesn't mean they are doing it intelligently.
Whenever I see someone asking "Hey should I watch Gundam Wing" I show them the clip where one character is shouting, off the edge of a cliff for someone to come kill them and then tell them that's the love interest.
Wouldn't it save time just to say yes?
I find my self laughing at the things they do in that show lmao. Initially started watching because of the Tallgeese design and Leo. I left on gundam wing when Heero was "unconscious" face down in the water and I can't get over how everything went down atop that sub. I gotta finish my binge on Victory then I'll finally be gucci with UC and get back on wing
When i think of gundam wing
I think heero saying to zechs
"I'll thank zechs in my own way, I'll kill him, that's how I'll express my gratitude"
And then zechs responds with
"That'd be fine"
Its
Ridiculous
Probably a box wing was so raw 😂
don't know what hte message of wing was there was 2 things that i took from it.
1. Automated machines or Drones are a bad thing, it makes killing so much easier when the reality should be that taking a life is a hard and ugly thing to do.
2 war without the loss of life is meaningless. this combines with the 1st thing i i got form it. fighting a war that is only destroying machines is meaningless since there is no sorrow or despair attached to the war, therefore war will continue to happen because people aren't suffering. the loss and devastation of a war reminds those who survived or lived through that time how horrible war really is, its dirty, messy and ugly but with Drones or the mobile dolls there is nothing to give an idea or show how bad war is, just a bunch of machines destroying one another but if you were seeing people rip each other apart. your outlook on the conflict is different
I'm still really new to Gundam (just watched like 10 episodes of G Gundam a month or two ago) and started watching Gundam Wing earlier this week. To be honest? I'm really into the melodrama, just because of how fun it is to be so constantly baffled. Like, Hiiro tries to shoot Relena, another guy shows up to shoot Hiiro, and Relena steps in front of Hiiro to protect him? That shit's wild as hell, I kind of love it! Hard to top the absolute beauty of Hiiro ripping the birthday invite in half and whispering "I'll kill you", though.
I see what you mean about it being less on the actual mech usage itself, though. Personally, I'm okay with that in terms of what I'm looking for right now, but I'm glad to hear other series get more into it.
That's the most accurate take on Wing I've seen basically ever.
Also really looking forward to the episode on X
Still holds up to me. But I watch it almost every few years. I learn more the older In age I get and the wiser I become. Start to understand things like what each goal was and why some would purposely loose a fight. You can still achieve your goals by loosing. Kind of an interesting way to look at it. Milliardo still my favorite character in the series.
Gundam Wing as a series is a trainwreck.
That being said, I have a bit of a guilty pleasure for the mobile suit designs, especially for the Endless Waltz redesigns of Gundam Heavyarms and the Wing Zero.
Ooh, Gundam X is next. Can't wait for that one. Certainly underrated.
Will always be my favorite and can always go back to watch it. Honestly the only bad gundam series was seed destiny
But I love both of those they made me love gundam but it had its flaws but wing is boring and slow as fuck to me
Destiny was a literal asspull from Seed. The characters specifically from Destiny were pretty annoying and lame. The only upside was Kira and the cast from Seed for me tbh. New suits are always cool
It's kind of bizarre, but Relena if anything feels like the most consistently-written character in Wing, given she's basically anime Audrey Hepburn circa Breakfast at Tiffany's. Thinking about the show as some kind of wildly-overblown romantic comedy where one perky socialite tries to cope with the antics of five angsty death commandos is actually quite entertaining... but it ain't much of a drama, sadly.
Like most people who live in America Gundam Wing is reason why I like Gundam and Mecca as a hole, however yeah I can agree now that it's a very subpar standard series and Gundam and it may be in my top 10 but it's probably at number 10 or 9.
I wouldn't tell someone to start with Gundam Wing if they were trying to get into Gundam but I would say hey after you watched maybe two series go look at this one.
i love Gundam wing it started my anime love and i still watch it to this day. come on first fight heero takes out two units with a shot and laughs, heavyarms just letting loose and duo's funny attitude i still love it
Gundam wing will always be my favorite! It was the first mobile suit show I ever watched on toonami as a kid and I’ll never forget it!! From there I watched all of them basically and I even do gunpla and build my own gundam kits now! It’s so much fun! And all thanks to toonami.!
Ironically, the anime that got me watching into anime during the Toonami boom was Outlaw Star, and through that I got to watch Gundam Wing. I feel like, while both have aged pretty poorly, time has been much kinder to Outlaw Star compared to Wing. The first has aesthetic, style, a primary cast of characters you actually give a crap about with unique backgrounds and skillsets, a story that has a semblance of coherency. Wing has five pretty boys who are all spies who all pilot gundams with efficacy varying from overpowered to glorified jobber, the story becomes incredibly silly even when you try your hardest not to pay attention to it, and everyone has their moment where the story requires that they do something incredibly stupid, and then the story turns back around to tell us these five children are actually super-intelligent and kind-hearted.
Thank god Turn A Gundam exists.
Lol To be honest I agree with the Outlaw Star the show didn't age well like Trigun still good but the plot just goes away in the mid season lol but still one of my favs
Aisha ClanClan was my first Anime crush. I would still do horrible horrible things to that catgirl.
That “do you… not care?” Killed me, seed was my first and while it holds a special place on my heart for many reasons, I’m very happy it was my first as it lowered my expectationsfor the series as a whole, when I eventually watched 0079 it was kind of surprising to see amuro actually REALLY struggle against char despite having superior equipment, I can only go back to seed now if I’m very high because the beam spams are so pretty to watch
I had the opposite problem because I watched UC first, and the other series just aren’t on the same level. Have only seen UC, IBO, 00, and a bit of Wing
I love Wing for its mecha designs and little else. Despite being a Toonami kid, I never really watched it growing up so it holds no real nostalgia for me beyond playing with the toys my friends had.
I think the best thing that came with Wing and G was that they made a new group in the playgrounds I grew up in.
Those who liked G Gundam and those who liked Wing and never shall the two meet.
I love both of them, personally
Loved it on Toonami and I rewatch Gundam Wing in it's entirety about once a year since. Aside from G Gundam I can't really get into the other series at all. I love the angsty melodrama and the political nonsense more and more everytime.
Gundam Wing got me started over 16 years ago. I’m currently watching After War Gundam X
i loved this series. it was the best i have no idea what version of gundam comes close
I'm happy people make Gundam content well into 2020!
After watching the original Mobile Suit Gundam trilogy when VHS when it first released stateside, I sat through the Wing and felt it was a definite case of style over substance (also felt cheated they hadn’t released Zeta Gundam). It sure looked cool but the plot oscillated between being unintentionally funny, confusing, or just plain strange. I have to wonder how much of the weird pacing and story was due to behind the scenes difficulties or if it was just not very well thought out.
It had A LOT to do with behind the scenes difficulties. Writers getting fired. Producers wanting to quit. Plot points being forced from management. And less than a year to reconcile these things (June to April).
@@MarvinTurner i have no doubt that the english dub made it worse with their odd choices in translation, odd dialog censorship, and likely just plain ignorance of the cultural and philosophical themes the series was (trying to) employ
@@glitterboy2098 I love the series, but yes, these things hurt it. Even in Japanese, the melodrama is sort of incomprehensible, but Gundam Wing's storytelling style is heavily rooted in Kabuki Theater, where the melodrama is the point. To a western audience, it can come off as somewhat forced, or even bizarre, while a Japanese audience will typically get it right away.
G Wing was the second Gundam series I remember seeing on Cartoon Network.
I remember watching it, but I don't recall anything other than the Gundam designs. Character design wise and me liking was Zach....
Gundam wing was my 3rd anime I watched and the 2nd I watched start to finish. I loved it when I was a kid. A couple of years ago I rewatched it and oh boy. The plot definitely didn't age well. That being said loved the Gundam designs and Leos are really cool. Also, we did get endless waltz.
After being heralded as the great toonami classic, Wing turned out to be the most mediocre and hard to sit through series for me as I went through the franchise. Heero Yuy in general felt like a very washed down and simplified cardboard cutout of Chirico Cuvie from Votoms, while the ongoing motive of various identities (Zechs and Lady Une) is executed very questionably. Thats not to say it doesn’t have its merits, there are some neat mobile suit designs for various tastes and the score is fun at times. Duo Maxwell is probably among the least head scratch inducing characters as well as the most likable, and the hilarious level of contrived ”I had it all planned all along” twist at the end with Treize brought back the amount of cheese that was present in the first few episodes. Overall it isn’t the worst in the franchise by a long shot, but is a far cry from being the ideal starting point. Great video and series, Im always excited for a new episode!
Altron we didn’t get a choice when this was all that was offered back in the day.....
@@PSYCOMMUnist it is tho. At least I’m invested in the war in ZZ, and the Zeon soldier is hilarious in the beginning
@@thomaskiser3886 bruh you had probably something better airing on Nickelodeon
LOVE, it brought me to Gundam's hype and the Gundam's designs are my favourites.
Gundam Seed: Do you not care? (rhetorical)
This line is gold.
Wing was my introduction to Gundam. I remember back in the day when it came on toonami and I was like WTF is this it's cool af.
Best parts of Gundam Wing are Treize Khushrenada, Zechs Merquise and the Tallgeese 1 - 3. I always thought the Tallgeese was way cooler then the gundams in Wing. I also thought the characters of Treize and Zechs were far more interesting then the angry Teens that are a bulk of the characters in the show.
Well you would also be right, those two drive basically the main story, with the gundam pilots really only being unwilling actors hovering around it, you could argue treize, zechs, and the gundam docs being the only REAL players on the table.
"Do you, not care!?" Had me rolling 🤣😂🤣😂
Back when Gundam Wing was released and I was myself a teenager deeply interested in the U.C., I used to refer to it as "Gundam for girls" precisely because it was so melodramatic, and emphasized style over substance. I certainly know now that's a sexist comment, but at the time, it seemed fairly apt given that the only girls I knew who liked any Gundam liked Wing, without any interest at all in even some of the newer, prettier U.C. series, like 08th M.S. Team or 0083.
You thought Gundam Wing was "Gundam for Girls", wait until SEED came along and changed that one. lol
Finally someone else who sees that the characters' actions rarely make any sense. You don't even get a sense of who any of them are because they just behave so randomly.
The moment I saw the Wing Gundam transform I thought it was just a cheap knockoff Valkyrie from Macross... I wasn’t mistaken...
...you definitely don’t like Zeta Gundam design too
I mean.... You know we're gonna try to watch every series we get our hands on. Gundam fans are diehard
I've been trying to rewatch Gundam Wing, but have been finding it surprisingly difficult. Plus after having rewatched Gundam Seed, having not seen it and enjoying it all the way back in highschool but not enjoying it recently, I'm kind of not in the mood for another disappointment.
I signed up for giant robots fighting, but all I get is people talking
Your reviews are really spot on. I enjoyed your reviews.
Gundam Wing is the best show to watch with a group of friends and just have fun with. It's an absolute mess of a show where no one acts like a normal person and nothing makes sense.
Wing is absolutely my middle ground for Gundam. I don't actively dislike it, but it's definitely the series I took the least out of. In contrast, X is a favorite of mine and I'm really looking forward to your video.
Wings big problem is its characters. Wufei is introduced committing a war crime, and then takes a break from murdering trainees in their bedrooms, to be sexist and condescending. The show intends us to root for him.
Nothing Heero does ever makes a lick of sense, and the show obviously knows this, since it goes to great lengths to constantly tell us how amazing and intelligent he is despite all of the evidence to the contrary.
Even his name is crazy because he's apparently intended to be a super spy/infiltrator, but he takes the "code name" of an important, assassinated politician from the recent past. That's like a Soviet agent trying to get into the US in the 70's with a passport claiming he's JFK. It does nothing but call attention to how badly his cover was thought out.
The other three barely contribute to the meandering plot. Though, the same can be said for all of the other periphery characters. I only liked Duo because he's the least awful of the bunch, not because he's actually a good character (also, 12 year old me thought that Death Scythe was MEGA RAD).
I always thought the show didn't want us to root for anyone really. I don't remember the show telling you too much about Heero's intelligence.
Gundam Wing is... Full of plotholes! XD
But I really like the Tallgeese. ❤️
The first piece of Gundam media I ever got was from a bestbuy when I was like.... 6 or 8 or something. It was a playstation 2 game called SD Gundam Force Showdown! It was based on a spinoff kid's show of chibi gundam and in it there are 3 main "gundam" characters. And this video series has just made me realize that these characters and the dimensions they came from are based off of the UC, G gundam, and wing gundam and this has blown my little mind apart. So thanks for that, and maybe take a look at the SD gundam series at some point?
I love gundam wing, the music i found it amazing
Childhood memories! I could watch it a million times over again. Such a good show. Obviously you can't compare it to the modern day mech anime because anime as a whole has come a long way but this will always be a classic and raw version of gundam I love.
I love that baby at SEED/SEED Destiny XD
"Or do you hmmm just not care"
Gundam wing is the very first gundam i watch and still love it till this day
Gundam Wing is an overly preachy show with a stupid film ending.
Person 1 “Lets destroy all the weapons so there will be peace!”
Person 2 “But...what if some militant organization makes weapons and attacks us anyway? We would be defenseless.”
Person 1 “That would never happen because peace!”
(That exact thing happens)
Person 1 “bring back the gundams to fight the badies!”
(They fight the badies)
Person 1 “Okay lets destroy the gundams and this time there will be peace!”
Person 2 “.................(annoyed sigh)”
democrats in space
oh yes, the show of pretty boy with existential problems and the suicide heero yui,for me is weird series but with iconic mobile suits.
It's definitely nostalgia. I love the soundtrack, art style and direction, and action. But the political intrigue and dialogue, as well as character actions, are so unrealistic I have a hard time getting through the story.
I tried getting into wing but I couldn’t in my opinion it kinda sucks for the reasons you said in the video but I’m glad it exists to bring Gundam to the west
My first Gundam series and my second anime after Macross. Gundam Heavyarms is by far my favorite gundam design of all time.
Honest question: how could someone get into Gundam WITHOUT starting with Wing? Wing aired on Toonami thus how me and everyone I know even heard about Gundam back in the late 90s.
That said, rewatching it currently. Great show, holds up, I genuinely don't understand the hate
I watched the compilation movies of 0079 since they became available on Netflix. I just got into Gundam last year.
Gundam SEED?
This show was my introduction into the Gundam franchise as a whole. It also didn't help that it was being shown with the original at the time when I watched it.
Gundam Wing is the Gundam series Mystery Science Theater 3000 would pick to riff on.
Rewatching it right now. Still slaps!
This was actually my first Gundam and I loved it. I don't think the stories should be taken seriously, just turn off the reasoning part of your brain & enjoy the ride.
LMFAO,, my mans spitting straight facts! It was ridiculous but, I'll never forget my first Gundam
I came for the Heavy Arms and stayed for the DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA
I watched it recently, in honor of being the first anime to scare me as a little kid in the early 2000s, seeing the pilot self detonate and lay in puddle of his own neon blood was like "woah! This is real shit" as a 6 or 7 year old... So fast foward like 20 years and i watched it all the way, ... in 1.5x speed xD hahaha it was just way to melodramatic and slow, but overall it had a ending where the mc are still alive which is rare. So that gives it a plus, Gundam is sometimes too real now a days, it can get sad. Wing is 90s never dying.
2:02 that caught me off guard and is very funny indeed
I tried watching this two years ago and I’m sorry, I couldn’t get into it. After 11 episodes, I dropped it.
Gundam wing is one of the very few anime i can tolerate with dubs. Heero is my top MC of all times from Gundam franchise and probably in top 3 of all times for me. I mean how many badass character are there that have the guts to rip of a nobles birthday invitation wipe their tear while telling them gonna kill you to their face
I was so confused by Gundam Wing when I first saw it on YTV in Canada because it was so melodramatic. W-why is he telling that girl he's gonna kill her?? Why does she wanna be killed by him?? What's going on????
...Just Communicate is still one of my fav OPs tho. That's what caught my attention most.
Too bad YTV used only the first intro. The second and third intros gave us Rhythm Emotion, which I thought was a better theme than Just Communication.
But at least we also got the movie version of Endless Waltz, which gave us Last Impression, aka. the Wing Zero reveal theme.
It was the first series I saw like almost a decade ago but I can't stand it after seeing most of the UC. Just comes off as.... Too cave man mentality. "Our gundam powerful... It kill all.. It made of kinda almost impervious metal".
I think Wing not being the best makes it a good choice for someone's first Gundam. If you like Wing, you'll like all the others.
-likes wing and Ibo, but not so much the others.. -
I still think Gundam Wing is a good series. I consider it much much better than many of the newer Gundam series.
As someone who watched it on toonami, Wing dose not hold up. I can only recommend it to those that are ether, A hardcore mech fans as there are some great mobile suit designs, B dedicated Gundam fans. C those that are interested in the history of anime as wing was the first Gundam to beak out of Japan after multiple failed attempts.
I fall under A and B...
@@nikolasota4162 I’m assuming that there’s some 70s mecha you need to see
It hasn’t aged well, but it is Gundam Wing.
2:05 she wanted him dead soo much he threw him out of a flying plane and headshot him while falling just to be sure 💀
I'm actually begun to watch Gundam Wing, I'm already at Episode 9 and I've been enjoying myself so far. I'm not really sure why I've enjoyed it, but I'm gotten stick it out till the end just to see what I think.
"i just cant see it being a good way to get into gundam these days" .....i just finished it and now im into gundam lol
i found ya through gundam seed and yeah id say your correct on all these though I am a weirdo that likes 00 and 08th ms team as my two picks
I just randomly got recommended your videos. They’re so well crafted!!! Thank you for all the explanations. Though I’m having a hard time knowing which follows next. Maybe include a click here for next video butting or something. Keep up the awesome work!!!!
I think GW had a bunch of big ideas that they had difficulties delivering on. It didn't help that the dub was treated in a kid cartoon style, either. (Some of that stuff is seriously cringe-y, lol.) Also, the voice actor for Relena somehow made many people despise the character in the US, yet she's apparently quite well-liked in Japan.
I was most invested in the characters. I've been spending the last few days looking back on this series for the first time since I saw it when it aired on Cartoon Network, and I found that the characters are still dear to my heart. This show had a big impact on me... I know I'm not alone in saying that it was the series that made me like serious anime!
But honestly though, I wish someone would take the effort to remake it. I think it had a lot of promise that just didn't pan out... really, some of the best stuff was in the extras. (I think the manga Episode Zero helps the characters to make more sense, just like Endless Waltz helped with the philosophy.)
I stayed up every night pass my bed time to watch Wing on ytv. It was a big part of ytv's later block largely I think due to the dub team being Canadian. I think the dub holds up well compared to many anime dubs of the time. And the story while flawed still one of my favs for the concept. While not my fav I still rewatch. 00 being my fav if you exclude its movie.
*damn, i love your explanations*
I just got done rewatching Gundam Wing. And not gonna lie the suit design pulls it through a lot for me. Never was into the older Gundams. The RX-78 is boring, and while the ZAKU has definitely grown on me over the years. Didn't really do it for me growing up. Having the 5 original Gundams (plus Zero, Epyon, Tallgeese, and the upgrades they get) really made it for me. They were all significantly different from each other. On top of that OZ had the mobile dolls (and also get cooler looking over time. The LEOs while not as iconic as the ZAKU. Do tend to fit the general cannon fodder MS at least in my opinion. They feel more like mass produced military equipment. And it's pretty cool you get to see the Earth Federation still field them after OZ/Romerfeller/White Fang take over as the main bad. All that said if someone new asked if the should watch it? I would probably tell them to just watch Endless Waltz. Cause that has the coolest variants of suits. Then go watch either 08th MS Team, G, or Unicorn. Depending on the person.
You’re out of your mind... Wing was the best series in Gundam and arguably the best Anime ever... the politics alone makes the show so interesting, especially when your an 8 year old watching and learning politics and diplomacy... call it nostalgic or w/e Wing like you said was the reason Gundam was ever going to be popular in the West
Honestly wing and IBO are the only gundam series I like, both for the same reasons: lots of factions, cool, but semi grounded in reality mecha, and wildly different personalities wanting different things. And pretymuch all sides have SOME form of ace pilot or advantage they can use in their way.
The only question remains, who would win in a fight: heero or mikazuki?
until another Gundam series has an actual Heavy Arms Custom, Wing will be the best Gundam series.
Haha, I just started playing M.A.S.S. BUILDER and that game has me hella nostalgic for some gundam. Would really like to watch the Origin movies again.
Nothing beats The Original Amaru Ray and Char..But Gundam Wing is like your watching Boybands piloting Gundams..and its a POP! That's why is popular unlike The Original you need to be Adult to understand it
..incase of wing you just to Understand the Pilots manuevers..
And they're Mecha is dope! That's why it's a hit
I love everything about this anime except for Wufei and anything related to him, and lot of the dub
“Do you not care?”
*proceeds show Seed*
This was also the series that got me into anime, and i love it for that and other guilty pleasure reasons. I watched it through a couple times including ovas and movie..... other than Earth vs colonies and a sense of the character arcs, i still don't quite understand what is going on LUL reading the wiki page of the Frozen Teardrops sequel just added to that confusion too HAHA at least the characters get some resolution in it
I can't say this show is what made me love mechs and giant robots. That honor belongs to Power Rangers. But this show was my gateway into anime. Which is weird since I watch DBZ and Sailor Moon well before this but I did not see those shows as anime back then.
Wing had 1 great feature. COOOOL gundams
Wing is a great show for people that love details, but its really bad for people that just want to be entertained.
Honestly i can't wait the video about Correct Century and AD of 00.
Wing did get me into Gundam, and anime on the whole as well.
As for whether or not I'd say some one should start there, probably not. Gundam 00 exists and is basically 'Wing, but done better' imo, so I'd suggest that before Wing, even if I have .... issues .... with 00s second season that don't exist in Wing.
Honestly, funny as it sounds, I'd probably suggest Full Metal Panic as a primer for getting into Gundam, since there's a lot of crossover there that would work, plus, FMP is just good civ.
Gundam Wing is fine. Not the best, not the worst. It's held up...ok. I think a lot of people are way way way too hard on it, but it's not like it doesn't warrent the critique.
I havent watched Gundam Wing yet. I've watched 79 (movies), 0080, WITP, CTA, and 8 episodes into Zeta. I thought the 79 trilogy movie was entertaining but some of it looked and sounded pretty rough.. def not sure if i wanna watch the 79 series. That being said, i'm loving the UC timeline and the 79 movies, at a bare minimum, def needs to be involved
Yeah their plan for ultimate peace is pretty stupid. My favorite bit in the OVA is how they disarm themselves at the start only for an oppressive and armed military force to take over. So our heroes scramble to get their weapons back to beat the military force, then after winning decide “okay guys this time we can destroy our weapons. I’m sure nothing bad will happen ever again……”
The best part of Wing, in my opinion, was Duo Maxwell. Beyond that? I am of the opinion that IBO does what Wing attempted but far better and without being so...confused. And overly dramatic.
Well your not wrong, there is a reason why I'm not much of a fan of all the other gundam series but love wing and Ibo (even though IBO S2 is depressing as fuck, loved the ending battle though)
Aesthetics alone carried this show
My first gundam series. Although the show that got me Into anime and mecha was the original escaflone
i started rewatching it when i found out it was on hulu and when gf would sit to watch with me mind you she tried getting me into code geass she was like wtf is this?!
I Think Wing is amazing. Yes it has flaws but it's an enjoyable experience and after getting into the series thanks you Build fighters and Build fighters try, Wing was my first taste of a series that is the norm for the franchise with it's political drama and how war is bad.
I had never watched wing outside of the movie. I'm watching it right now...It feels like a retelling of the OG series with cool new 90s MS and way less depth. It's kind of all over the place and hard to follow. I want to watxh zeta however I can't find it anywhere.
One of the first animes I watched and the Heero/Relena relationship is what sucked me in. It’s more complex and makes more sense in the manga (and gets less toxic over time) the manga is way better, but I still have love for the goofy anime 😎
I don't care want anyone says. I liked that part with Wufei. It shows how he struggles with feeling of weakness and losing.
I don’t know man, the wolves walking away scared is so goofy. The wolves are like “oh shit we’re weaklings!”