My Reply to Nathan Florence on My NEAR DEATH SITUATION in Hawaii
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A lot of people told me to go check out the Nathan Florence analysis on my near death situation in Hawaii ( • STUCK BETWEEN A RIP CU... ) I already had a lot of respect for Nate as a surfer & a business man, but it was great to see how he came across on the video with the utmost of respect and speaking about the situation in a way that will actually help people if they watch this video. He goes into a backstory about a session in which he was STUCK BETWEEN A RIP CURRENT AND A SET WAVE & then touches on my situation. All in all a great video & I hope you enjoy my reply! Thanks!!
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Ben! Love how this little series came together! So cool to here your in depth thoughts during that situation after viewing and breaking down from outside perspective! Awesome vid dude! If im in east coast at some point lets hang! Or vise versa and you here! Always welcome! 🤝 yew!
LETS GOOOO, collab time, Legends meet legends
Dope
nice nathan
That collab would hit 1M views in the first day and I’d be responsible for a lot of it
Collab!!!!!!
Dude.... Guys, these are my two favourite channels interacting with one another... that's epic in itself! It's Soooo dope you appreciate and are willing to by-pass embarrassment and any ego, to fully tell this specific story. The ocean anywhere is NO joke, but to hear you guys acknowledging that she can break and take any lives in just a millisecond is awe inspiring! The narration with the visuals is great and absolutely needed to be seen. Like you say Nate and B-G, there are surfers that have no idea of that area. Whether they are new or extremely experienced, it's just awesome to see to two elite surfers have a open convo about this area and their experience which the viewer can understand and experience live on the actually day and more specifically in that particular area! Nice job Ben with the response mate!
well said Yelnats87!
Same for me bro! When I saw Nate's vid I was like whaaaaaat? Now Ben, that's so sick! 🤙🤙🤙 Yew!
Amen
I had a serious experience on the west side of Kauai, my first trip to Queens Pond. I can say for sure I would have died if my leash broke. After that I spent the next 25 years becoming a very proficient body surfer. If you intend on putting yourself in waves of consequence I can’t emphasize enough how important being skilled at bodysurfing is to making it out of a situation like this.
I think Nathan’s video was so helpful to everyone who hits that spot again
I can relate to this. More than once I've been in heavy situations on Maui's north short where I didn't know if I could get back in. Broken gear on big days, windsurfing, surfing, and standup paddling. One early morning I was surfing the outer reefs by myself, took a fall and felt an electric shock sensation on my leg. When I surfaced I looked down and had a 6" V shaped cut deep in my calf muscle that almost went down to the bone. It was nasty with a huge flap of flesh hanging down, blood and tissue everywhere. I think I went into immediate shock. It didn't hurt too much because whatever hit me severed the nerves. It could have been a shark, or the worst fin cut ever, we still don't know. The ER doc who did the surgery said he's seen thousands of fin cuts in his career and this was no fin cut. Great. Anyway I was a quarter mile out, all by myself and had to figure out how to get back in. I used my leash to tie a tourniquet around my leg then paddle in, make it over a shallow reef with exposed coral heads, through a rocky channel. I was getting tossed around by the surge, slicing my feet up, stepping thru sea urchin beds. I was fighting the urge to panic. Finally made it in and had some ppl call 911. They hauled me away to the hospital and I spent several months recovering. What a morning. So, when I watched your vid, I was like shit, he's in the rinse cycle, exhausted and I know the exact feeling of helplessness. Sometimes the only way to survive those situations is to not panic. That alone will spare you from loosing the last bit of strength you need to rescue yourself when no one is there to rescue you. It' can be the difference between life and death. Stay safe, and by all means, come back to surf HI next winter. One thing you can take away from your experience is the knowledge that now you're capable of surviving the gnarliest situations. That shouldn't make you hesitant but instead give you increased confidence combined with a healthy level of respect. Stay safe and aloha!
Man that sounds horrific
What gashed you? Maybe a bite?
Almost exact situation happened to me one morning on a solo surf (error #1) in Chile. Beautiful sunny morning, skipped breakfast (error #2) cause I wanted to get out there. It was really big the day before so the current was already above average. Didn’t bother waiting to see a set come through to really know how big it was before I got in (error #3). Took a small wave and ejected only to turn around and see a way bigger set of waves coming I didn’t expect. Took every one on the head. Was seeing stars, on the verge of blacking out. Felt like I didn’t have an ounce of energy left, literally accepted death. One last massive wave broke much earlier then the ones I took on the head and was able to bodysurf my way in to safety. Took me hours to regain the strength to walk back home. Didn’t surf for a while after that.
Pichilemu?
Ben, this happened to me during hurricane Teddy in the Outer Banks. I got sucked into the bowl during a huge set 15-20ft on the faces top to bottom. I thought I was going to die. Literally was fighting for my life. All the energy kept sucking me into the impact zone. I always thought of myself as a big wave guy. That day humbled me.
I took 3 on the head WITH my board and realized it was time to go in (Duck on a big day). Just goes to show how strong Ben is, taking 15 on the head at Pipe.
Love the fact that you mentioned about maybe being embarrassed to have to signal for help, particularly when your knowledge of the water is very significant. Can’t stress enough, never let your ego get in the way of your safety. Much easier to swallow your pride and live to see the next days sunrise rather than swallow a few gallons of water and that’s it. The ocean is unforgiving and has zero conscious when it comes to claiming a life. Deserves every ounce of respect, 100% of the time.
The situation can go from fun to super gnarly real quick. Duuude. Big shout to Nate for reacting to this. Fingers crossed that between his video and yours this gets a message out that keeps people looking out for others. Stay stoked and stay safe big dawg🙌🍍
Nathan is the best. Glad you are Good Mr. Gravy!
I admire what you're doing. Met you at Rincon last year you asked what's the claim, I claim that the best surfer in the water is the one having the most fun. Keep the dream alive and stay stoked my friend, because freedom is only available for a brief lifetime. Stay on.
Really love how Nate cover your event and how you took the time to discuss the event even deeper. Great knowledge sharing to many of us, thank you so much
Such a heavy situation, so glad you made it out safely Ben! I’m blown away with the insight that both you and Nathan provide here. Such valuable information that is very relatable and practical for many of us. Thank you for sharing! You are both Legends!!
Glad we can talk about this and learn from it. We all need to look out for each other.
Ben its always good to talk about that kind of thing man, be it to us viewers or friend, professionals, councilors whoever. Respect for sharing this with us brother alot of us could relate to the feeling for sure!
Great blog. Great to see the legend still paddling, loved Nate’s breakdown of the incident. Can understand how you felt. Keep on rocking.
I've been in huge Makapuu 12-15 feet bodysurfing and couldn't get in because of this same situation. Current was pulling me right into the oncoming waves and you don't go anywhere trying to swim to shore. After 2 hours of duckdiving massive waves, luckily, I instinctually tried what Nathan was talking about without the starfishing as a last resort. I just took the waves on the head on purpose and tumbled back to the shore. Seems counter intuitive, but duckdiving is your worst enemy in those situations because that time underwater just pulls you back into the next wave. I probably would have died without fins so Ben's situation was more gnarly for sure. You learn so much from those situations, which is why testing your limits is extremely beneficial but risky.
stoked all is well! Ben and Nathan legends!!!!
Mad respect given by both of you gentlemen is truly a beautiful thing!
Great analysis! Glad you are still alive Ben thank you for entertaining us!
Thank you Nathan and Ben for all the tips I've being started surfing at 47' waves 'n the Netherlands as City boy Amsterdam now living in San Fran, being in gnarly situations at ocean Beach doubling up waves after sunset.
Watching your videos about getting out made me going in safer brother.... Thank you. Nathan & Ben your legends!
So glad you guys did these videos
Glad you made it out of this one Ben. The danger in the water is real for anyone out there. Keep the stoke going! 🤘🤙🍍
the pure excitement in your voice when mini slammo was wedging is priceless !
Loved this vlog! Can’t wait for the premier next month. 🤙🏻 yewww
Glad you got in Mate. Been there !! Leg rope snapped on big day - there was no one out - no one in the car park to waive help - I had to just rely on me - after being continuously pummelled and on the verge of zero left in the tank and giving in - my feet touched the ground and I washed onto rocks were my board was -I laid on my board for 30 minutes on the rocks recouping - its scary shit - that day gave me a good appreciate of life and to always check my equipment before going out - Glad your alive to live another day Ben as am I - Robert Sicolo From SOUTH OZ down under. xx
That was a very nutty situation your in I’m glad your still shreddin
Bro u didn’t even watch the whole video 💀
Losing your board on a day like that is intense as it gets..I saw the footage a few times. Nathan broke it down real well . Big respect Ben. 🙏
Man - the editing just keeps getting better and better! Thanks for the vid!!! 🤙💯
Yeah, we all look out for each other at our very shallow reef break. Guys have hit their heads and things can go bad quickly. It can get frustrating when you try and warn randoms or unknowns about the real dangers and they blow it off like you're only concerned about potential waves they may be taking. No, we're trying to help you before anything bad happens.
It's usually the smaller seemingly safe days when the real injuries occur. Nathan broke that down really well.
Nate, is just a genuine good human. His empathy shows both his experience and maturity.
Ben your explanation and commenting alongside Nathan’s was perfect. Riveting! Thank you!
Waiting for Nathan's reply about your reply to his reply
I'll never forget when I was like 10 or 11 paddling out off LBI during my 1st real charge of a hurricane swell. I was with a bunch of older dudes and it was huge. I got so hammered on my 1st try and failed. I got back in walked back down the beach to try again but now I was alone. Dude at 11 about to paddle into solid closed out 8 to 10ft sets I was terrified. I finally thought I had enough strength and lull to get out. I made it to the impact zone to get crushed right on my head. My leash plug popped so I lost my board. Never found it again BTW, although I did 4 years later at Holyoke under some kids arm 😆🤣😂. I got so held down it wasn't even funny. With no leash to climb I was screwed. Plus I was prolly only like 70lbs. I finally got washed onto 106th st jetty. I started at 76th st jetty 😆.
Both channels I watch and to see Nathan and Ben respond on each was so interesting listening to the situation being broken down was an awesome watch 🤙🤙
Props to you guys for getting back out on your boards, takes real courage and resilience. I was pulled out to sea when I was 12 years old, there was a hurricane (Emily) 36 hrs offshore and the waves were monsters, at 12 I was stoked to boogie board on something other than ankle-high beach-break. As soon as I got waist deep it was over, sucked out at warp speed into MASSIVE walls of water, held down, spun, grab half a breath of air, BOOM, again, and again. I finally gave up, underwater, just breathed in and said come what may. At that moment I washed on shore.
I have never gone in the ocean since.
So glad you came out of that scary situation Ben, I am always keeping an eye out on the water because I’ve had similar experiences…. great video.
Gnarly dude! I’ve never been in a situation like this but some great advice from both you and Nate. Glad you’re ok🙌
OMG Ben! You are so unaware of what you just did and I cannot even express to you the doors that you just open to your future. What I mean is this conversation that Nathan Florence had and then you doing this video is an amazing resource for processing trauma especially near death trauma. What you just did can take people years even decades to begin to process through. Be kind to yourself be gentle with yourself and allow yourself to go through everything that you need to with compassion. But also know you have just shown everyone how to do it for themselves ❤️🧿
cool of you to address this and not just push it away like it never happened, losing your board is scary and its good to see people experienced as you and Nathan talking about it, thanks
Nathan’s channel is awesome for bigger wave tips. Love both channels content so much!
Unreal, what a killer vlog ! That was awesome to watch. Love the way Nate broke down that situation. I personally haven’t been in that exact situation, but I have come out the back of a beautiful wave at backdoor & your looking at sets stacking out the back, and it goes from the best experience to the worst in seconds. I was duck diving literally under the lip, the second I’d pop up there’d be a bigger, heavier, farther wave out the back & your scratching praying your don’t get drilled. See backdoor is a closeout section, that’s why they call it backdoor, cause your literally sneaking out the backdoor ! That was so heavy ! Glad your ok buddy ! As always much love, The Dream is real, Alive & Well 🙏🏼🤝🤙🏼
Alby,
That’s very cool of Nat’s input, he was so insightful, respectful & genuine. For the Dream
Heavy Heavy Heavy .Glad you made it and were able to share it.I remember the last hope wave from my wife's cousin ,saw him fill up like a cup in the bath before I grabbed his wrist.He didn't have enough strength to stay on the board .We made it back .Can't even imagine without a board.Good job .
glad you made it man!!!
Fantastic commentary from both sides. Horrifying situation. Most of us have been there in one form or another but this level of surf is…another level. Well done Snr Gravy!
A float suite in big waves maybe like Jamie always wears
You and Nate seem like very responsible and conscientious surfers. Great respect for your skills, professionalism and kindness to others. Great series. I learned a lot. Keep it up and stay safe!
I've been there. Big Nor Easter got pulled into the pier. Glad you made it through.
Even having experienced that situation, it still shows the importance of looking out for each other. Very Important.
Awesome video!! I learned a lot about more advanced surfing just from these two videos!!
Man... this makes me so happy!
You're a legend Ben! Watching you watch Nathan watch you almost die was very enjoyable (knowing the outcome was positive that is). Stoked to see this video title pop-up and even more stoked after watching it.
I love that they are reminding everybody to always be cautious and keep your eyes out to help people out. I’ve definitely had a time where I’ve been saved by a surfer when I was out at Huntington Beach when the waves were 5 to 7 and the set crashed on my head and swept my board right off my body and took the leash with it. I waved down a surfer and he let me hold onto his board until I had enough energy to swim back to shore.
Sooooo bummed you were at my local break and I missed it ! The claim is you’re story is so inspirational and you make great content !! For the dream….
Ben you have such a big 💙 glad you made it out and can continue to share the stoke🤙🍍
Love all the in depth talk about the ocean and what to do out there (only surfed once in maui on basically white wash but would like to learn for real soon, the ocean is gnarly!) stay safe out there! 🤙🏼🏄🏼♂️
Yeeewww!! 15:33 for the dream ✨️ love the energy ✨️
Open the mind to they're experience wisdom, stay alive!! Thanks Ben&Nate, they're right here right now!
I watched this on Nate video. This was crazy scary. I’ve been in that same situation in California when I used to surf there. Glad your good.
Ben, glad you’re OK. Just said a prayer thanking God you are safe. I’ve worried over the years as your wave choice level has increased, but your experience has also increased. This happens to most athletes that push themselves to the limits, but
That’s why we’re glued to BGTV. You’ll be even more prepared next go round. Maybe surfers should threat some monofilament line through the leash? #ForTheDream!!!!!!
If you or anyone reading have any PTSD ( over whelming anxieities) from a near drowning ,one EMDR treatment has worked well for a couple guys I know , got thier confidence back quik.
EDMR is Amazing
Research I read and my own experience shows it works amazingly well for one/two time ,short term events like nearly drowning , a car accident, etc. It tends not to work well for longterm ,repeated event traumas,like years of child or sexual abuse though it IS worth a try, its non invasive, relatively cheap and quik process.
What is EMDR
The ocean truly has no back door. Thanks for being honest and sharing.
Tumultuous is a awesome word , gnarly situation dude ! It happens and we learn from them for sure!
New intro has grown on me Benjamin, lovin it, for tha dream chief
Sometimes it's a good thing when mother nature checks your okole...keeps you humble...keep living the dream Ben!!!
I freaking love Nate Florence, what a cool dude
I enjoy watching your videos and my son loves them as well since he surfs in Wildwood Crest!
I really felt for u when I saw your original vid. I've been in that exact situation-leash broke-stuck in the impact zone forever. Its weird how even if you're highly experienced and in shape - the exhaustion eventually shuts down your muscles and lungs from working. You can barely wiggle your toes and wave your hands and you're sipping air like its through a straw because your lungs are shutting down too . At that point you're just trying to keep your mouth exposed while you're at the mercy of the current. Again-nothing is working - no muscles or lungs. And if u don't black out your brain is working perfectly - you fully understand your predicament, but your body can do nothing to save itself. Very strange and scary.
Yep. I'm a strong swimmer and reasonably good surfer and one day out at about ten to twelve foot beachbreak I just got mashed, and then it never ended. Short period so a wave comes down on you ever time you get up, while a rip current sucks you in and prevents you from escaping. My board pulled its leash plug and I just vaguely remember blacking out, struggling to the surface one more time and I guess getting worked by a wave hard enough that I moved out of the worst rip zone. Eventually struggled to the beach and fell down, losing consiousness. It's so scary to think that a couple more waves or blacking out at the wrong time and I'd be drowned, no one was looking for me I was out alone at this gnarly beachbreak but I thought I could handle it like I had in the past. Just a bad rip and a bad sandbank nearly killed me.
Great content from both Nate and Ben.
It happened to me at Playa Hermosa, CR. So grateful you survived too.
I was afraid for you. Brought back memories of my hairy situation long ago. Thanks for sharing.
North Shore?
@@josephm8306 No. Outside Tijuana sloughs.
Keep claiming my bra the world needs a Ben Gravy!
So cool to see my community in one of your vlogs!
Great vid and share. Remember when Ben was super scared at OB in SF? 2 things, I saved a dad swimming after his son caught in a rip on my longboard. It felt great to help them, explain what was happening and get them in. 2nd, I’ve been so scared so many times…. It is a part of it. Even when taking it easy, things can get weird fast. If I’m doubt, don’t paddle out :)
Just glad you’re ok brother, yeah no matter small or big, things change real quick, you’re right about that. But yeah no matter, its still good to talk about it once in a while. 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Always swim sideways in a rip, it’s a spot where all of the water that washes up in the surrounding area rushes back. Based on the sand or coastline, It takes the path of least resistance. Where ever that may be, the current back is very strong and will keep you stuck in the middle. Sometimes you can identify where one is. Sometimes the waves look smaller in that spot, water might seem calmer. Tricks people.
Swim sideways to get out.
Was taught this at a young age, saved me more than once.
Ben you have reached the pinnacle of brohood in the time you spent in Hawaii. Street cred gone WAAAAYYYY up. This and Nathan's original analysis are, as a surfer, possibly the most enthralling youtube vids I've seen. The other footage that comes to mind is Kai Lenny's first person/dual vision of his obliteration at Nazare but that being a 50ft++ day makes it almost too unfathomable for us mere mortals to comprehend. Keep up the quality bro.
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Glad you made it out ok 🙏🏻been in similar situation laguna cliffs Calif 1978 lifeguard said the wave was close to 20ft we were already out in big waves turned around and saw a wall so big couldn’t get away . I was slammed 5 times by big waves . I was drowning had drank so much water .I saw the white light and a tunnel and hands pulling me towards a bright light 😩I said god please don’t take me yet my parents already lost one child then my prayer was answered a light pushed me up enough to get my arm out and the guy I was swimming with was looking for me saw my arm and pulled me in . I had so much water dripping out of my mouth and nose I had a pond couldn’t talk for a day I was so stunned . I was a good swimmer and had lifeguard training but no match for big waves . I have to say once I gave up the struggle while drifting farther down it was very calm and peaceful floating towards light 😇
You Guys Radiate the Spirit and Feeling of Aloha . Greetings from the Space Coast Fl .
It sounds like they need to add another lifeguard station right in the middle where that Spot is at Glad you made it out🤙
Loving the new intro
SINCERE stuff from Nate and Ben, respect to both.
16ft @15 seconds lost my board at Maria’s got swept past steps… 45 minutes. I know the feeling, changed my life.
Great vid!I think Nathan should do a reply video of Ben's reply video on the metavers
You guys saved my life with these videos because I found myself in the exact same near-death situation at Ehukai beach park. Surfline said 4-6ft, but somehow a 2nd reef wave of rolling white water swept through the lineup midway through my session stealing my board. I was right in front of the lifeguard tower and it still felt like signaling for help was futile and not a good use of energy.
I didn't want to starfish into big whitewater over the reef on my first session ever at Pipeline, but that's what I had to do to survive.
What a cool bro & solid breakdown. Glad you're alright, still charging.
Dam, no joke. My friends little brother downed at ocean beach in SF his friend was watching and thought it was fine until it wasn't. Definitely better to help someone who doesn't need it than to not help someone who does. Glad your ok Ben.
sorry for your friend
obsf is brutal. worse than any hawaii break imo
DUDE!!! I had a similar situation at Sebastian Inlet last November when I went out in the water to photograph surfers. The current bellow the surface was pulling me down and I could barely keep my head out of the water. Obviously I made it back to the beach, but the scariest part was when I hit the beach I started blacking out, like tunnel vision everything started going black from the outside in. I was sooooo winded I puked and couldn't catch my breath for literally 30 to 45 minutes. It was the craziest 15 minutes I have ever had in the water, and I can usually kick around out there for a couple hours at a time. Never take the ocean for granted, she will slap the shit out of you just to remind you how mortal we really are.
My homebreak, it can get powerful out there
In Hawaii especially, it's vital not to surf a place one can't handle without a board and leash. The rule is, never go out if you're not sure you can come back without a board because boards break and leash snaps. Sorry about the platitude, I know it's hard to imagine that place being so gnarly. A pro surfer once died drowning at Gas Chambers, after his leash got tangled near the death rock in shallow waters while a set pushed through. Those things happen. I got in the same situation at off-the-wall and got swept near Rockpiles as a big set was approaching, and got trashed. I remember getting so out of breath, trying to resurface in the turbulence waves after waves, I ended up just laying flat and relaxed, head down as if I was drowning, so that the waves would push me in faster than if I was anchored in a vertical position... A lifeguard came running towards me as I was approaching the beach, thinking I was drowning since I was purposefully not moving in other to conserve energy. He was surprised I just stood up from looking dead, talked and and walked as if nothing had happened. That was the only funny thing about the experience, the look on his face and body language.
If you read Ken Bradshaw's section in the book, "The North Shore Chronicles", he talks about Ace Cool, an 80s version of Ben Gravy, before youtube and social media, where making a name for yourself required heavy stunts. However, Ace Cool had no idea how to get in at closing-out Waimea, and got stuck in the deadly shorebreak for 15min dodging waves. Ken Bradshaw was laughing thinking, is this guy really gonna die, as he was too stubborn to accept help from the helicopter basket. As for Bradshaw, he knew you had to come in from the right side, where the shorebreak is small, but to do that, if you miss the exit, you have to swim another 45min to go outside where longshore currents are no more and sets don't break, then time your approach so you get pushed in by giant waves rolling over you. The goal being, trying to stay close to the right side of the bay, to avoid getting pulled by the rip current as one approaches the shore. Once in the left side shorebreak, without a board, when it's huge, it's almost a death sentence if no lifeguards are on duty. It's important to be aware of all these stories and respect the ocean, and also to practice coming in by doing a lot of bodysurfing and swimming, especially in hawaii.
Glad to see it coming full circle back to el slammo!... Everyone at home break especially the Viking kayak legend...
Jax Beach Pier surfer here so we usually have no waves of consequence. But every year without fail we pull / aid swimmers out of the ocean. I've seen a drunk couple nearly drown right in the middle of a group of surfers who had no idea they were in trouble. Thanks to you both for the humility of sharing your experience.
Glad you are ok! Obsf that happens all the time.
Now we need a reaction video to the reaction video of the reaction video 😂 keep it going!
Glad you're OK bruddah!
Ben! Eye opening video mate. Must be pretty triggering for you to rewatch it the event. Hope you’re all good!
Also wanna say thank you, as you’ve encouraged me to upgrade my leggy to a more sturdy model 👏
glad u made it out
We need a collab he’s got fam from Jersey I need a hurricane hunters addition of Ben and Nate
Similar thing happened to me while body surfing in Laguna Beach on a 12 foot day in cold water with no wetsuit. I called for help, but the lifeguards didn't hear or see me.
After that situation, I bought a plastic whistle that I strap to my wrist when I go in the water so that if I'm in trouble, someone can hear me.
NF is my favorite surfer! love this video. You are up there my brother
Loving the content ! New sub 👍. So fun to watch .
Loving the new intro man, you've fully nuked it 🤙🤙 #forthedream