Supreme Court hears arguments on obstruction law used against Trump, Jan. 6 rioters
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- The Supreme Court heard arguments Tuesday in Fischer v. U.S, a case considering the extent of a federal obstruction law that is being used to prosecute defendants who attacked the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Prosecutors are also using the law against former President Donald Trump.
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The Supreme Court should not be about liberals or conservative it should be about we the people
Courts are about the law and not politics but both parties have turned them into political institutions. Read Randy Barnett's RESTORING THE LOST CONSTITUTION: THE PRESUMPTION OF LIBERTY.
Why can't voters file lawsuits against politicians ignoring the needs of the citizens?
It's quite simple. Quit trying to blend two different laws together to create a guilty. Read the blatant English of the language that is the problem with our judicial system from top to bottom from a prosecution's viewpoint and the defenses viewpoint is there to always trying to read into these laws, not just what the text says
The text says “otherwise disrupt a proceeding”. So if you want to appeal to actual text the meaning is clear.
Listening to SCOTUS argue to empower the government vs empower the private citizen is disheartening
Yes, but I’m glad they’ve been making decisions to weaken the government in favor of the citizens. I am hopeful Scotus will rule against the government’s interpretation here
your completely wrong, if this goes through.....we just gave government more power to quell any protest. this is beyond left or right, this is more power to government that can be used in the future they see fit the narrative of that time.
Are you claiming citizens should be empowered to overthrow the government? If coupe is unsuccessful, then, is it your position that the government should not have the power to discipline
@@janedoe1229 despite what you have been told, this was very clearly not an attempt to overthrow the government or at a coup or anything other than a protest over a shady election and an effort to get congress to treat the election as the shady operation it was. 5 days of hiding the votes and keeping the country in the dark while they found the votes needed to beat trump
Let's talk about documents that were stolen from our country
Yes they said Biden was "too old and bad memory" to be charged for all the documents he stole.
that actually would make more sense this regarding the spirit of the law. 🤣
You lack knowledge. Good luck in life.
Which documents?
@@falseprophet1024 the ones trump stole and kept. he wasnt charged for the ones he returned.
I listened to over an hour and the court seems very skeptical of the government’s arguments. As they should be. Very funny to hear the government differentiate past “mostly peaceful protest” vs what people are doing hard time for.
Most of MAGA received probation, 3 months probation and 3 months jail. People died on that day. It was not a game
The Supreme Court uses the word otherwise. Let's be real this case needs to be heard based on our democracy not on words.
Lock him up! Lock him up!!
Trump does not care about anyone but Trump for the first time in his life he's been held accountable we the people need to hold him accountable and all of his followers
What an ignorant lie.
You Just Can't Make This 💩 Up"!
We have outgrown this form of government!
We need a Government Of The People, By the people and for the people !
How can voters hold politicians accountable while in office? Why aren't politicians required to undergo performance evaluations?
How come NO ONE is talking about the word “OR ,” at the end of C1 BEFORE “otherwise” on C2!!!!!
Agree.... Example: Did the defendant tamper with the evidence, threaten witnesses, OR otherwise disrupt the investigation? In my reading, the otherwise is a catch all of the first. Did you have sex with her or otherwise break your vows? It could be sex but other things would count too, either way, they are break the vows.
@@bennmaz So what does "otherwise" mean then? Is every action an otherwise? The otherwise has to be of a related nature pursuing the illegal end or goal, not just any action that the government doesn't like.
@@unbreakable7633 Otherwise means "in another way"....if A,B,C or in another way do X means that any of these can get you in trouble including A,B,C or anything else not listed that causes X. Like the Justice Sotomayor said. Sotomayor used the analogy of a sign posted in a theater that says you will be removed if you photograph or record the actors, or otherwise disrupt the performance. She argued that “if you start yelling, I think no one would question you could be kicked out under this policy, even though yelling has nothing to do with photographing or recording.”
@@unbreakable7633 The Jan6 people could have been destroying state electoral certificates or in another way (otherwise) doing other things to try to stop the official proceeding (such as: hang the VP, zip tie people up, forcing members to evacuate, etc, etc). For about 1/3 of these people their intent was clear and they should be held to more jail time. The other 2/3 of people there is no evidence of intent.
@@bennmaz 1. How does that even respond to my essential point? 2. The Jan 6 defendants, held now for more than 3 years without bail or a speedy trial, have been the victims of one of the most egregious instances of tyranny in the history of the US, deprived of their criminal procedural rights under the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th Amendments. Their treatment would justify a real insurrection. Thomas Paine was right: defend the rights of your enemy, for if you don't you set a precedent that will deprive you of those very same rights. Prove all that in a real court of law, not the kangaroo courts we have now. You have tyranny in your heart.
Justice is truly blind. Blind To The Truth
You are truly blind and would never understand the truth until you realize it is too late.
What about the People's first amendment rights to have a president that isn't a criminal along with some judges who get paid off
I'm afraid that's what the Second Amendment is for.
How are either of those "1st Amendment rights" -- how do they involve expression or protest? Might want to think about what the 1st is really about.
Have you ever read the first amendment?
Maybe you should look at the video documents
Photos of the garage will suffice for this voter.
We've all seen the videos from the guided tour of the people's House.....
Plus the dilapidated Top Secret documents in a garage.
@@SandBox-l4q but he's just "a well meaning elderly old man with a bad memory."
But when he "stole" "took"and or mishandled classified documents he knew exactly what he was doing, and what he was going to do with them.....
hand over the tape so we can lock them up traitor
Oh no. The walls are closing in again🙄
We got him this time !!
😆
What about BLM riot? What happened to those people? In jail, or free from charge?
well, that democrat who set fire to a fed. courthouse in Portland -- with people inside -- was sentenced to time served, about 1 year.
all other democrats nationwide who 'did' come before a court for their rampaging during their Summer of Love, and very few did out of hundreds or arrests, their combined sentences was 'less' than 1 of those sentenced for J6...
So she wants to define what is “minimal”. Basically, a democrats actions to impede are minimal but the actions of a republicans actions to impede is a 20 year sentence! And visa versus when republicans are in charge?! How stupid.
Are there no other statutes the government could use to charge with? Why are attempting to use a statute w a 20 year maximum sentence that has NEVER been used like this before? I think we know why.
The solicitor is very talented, but, this has a built in fallacy. She argues both that the clause is so broad it can be interpreted for Jan 6 defendants, but, so narrow that it’s never been used before in this manner. An obvious case of political prosecution.
What?
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Love that we have so many smart people arguing points.
Suspect judges have personal desires for interpretation of laws.
I'm just randomly not traveling the world creating destruction of resources'..
I have to work 7 p.M t 7 a.M for so much a week .. Nearly nothing with food and utilities and children and pets and those thieves..
Why wasn't Ray Epps charged with 1512c2?
Because he was paid to be an agitator by the feds
Because Fox News lied to you
@@nicholasbusch113that is not true and he was charged.
Cave men invented the wheel and discovered fire of cold caves .. While Adam and Evil was in Cannon pitching a tent .
Men interrupt women, even from the Supreme Court of the United States.
They've already done that to us we have no rights as the people of this country anymore
We live in a police state.
That playing gawd and thinks its going to escape his wrath ?
Shameful.... ridiculous that this court is playing with word salad & showing no reasonable regard for future implications.
Trump 2024 FJB is fired
Guess again.
When you don't recuse yourself from your wife's hearing in her involvement of Jan 6th. Thomas you have 0 honor none. You should be removed disbarred.
You think the bar can remove a sitting member of the supreme court? Lmao..
One doesn't need to be a lawyer to be a SCOTUS Justice.
Granted, it's helpful but not a constitutional requirement.
@falseprophet1024 no congress can look it up. And then afterwards can and should be disbarred. Didn't know I'd have to draw it out. Looks like we have a thinker.
Why hasn’t Hilary been charged?
Charged with what? More important things like Insiting a riot, it's ten times more important than deleting emails
@@sarahcline8488 She tampered with evidence and thus obstructed an official proceeding
I just tuned in to watch the corrupt supreme court reality tv show.
9-0 CO decision shows the court isnt corrupt, its the democrat party lawfare that is corrupt.
Let's just pretend that you're a real judge yeah Justice Thomas is a real good example of illegal tampering
Your president is prosecuting his opposition and his supporters. You are worried about SCOTUS? Makes sense....
Trump needs to leave the presidential campaign. If he does not deserve to be president again, it would be terrible for the United States of America.
If Lawfare can't bring him down, I don't think you're stopping him any other way than through a vote pal.
Trump needs to lead the presidential campaign. There, I fixed your typo.
You say that after more than 3 years of one of the most incompetent and corrupt Presidents in our history.
Man this is hard to listen to, the way the Supreme Court has to break down different laws and statutes , down to specific nouns verbs and adjectives. I mean , fml
Thats kinda what they have always done, its what law and interpretation comes down to. Some of us love this stuff:
It is really hard to hear the truth and try to understand that words have meaning?
The law is made of language. No other choice -- what's your method?
20 yrs.. TWENTY YEARS IN PRISON..
for 'Interupting a meeting', proceeding, whatever..THAT is what they should have been addressing.. because it is insane!
That is Banana Republic style insanity.
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Trump and Mohummed foreign affairs destroying the Universe and resources'..
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Isaiah 24 NIRV - The LORD Will Destroy the Earth
24 The Lord is going to completely destroy everything on earth. He will twist its surface. He'll scatter those who live on it.
Absolutely absurd to hear Thomas questioning anyone about anything related to his wife's pet project to end Democracy. SMH
I feel like I'm living in an obvious tv movie about government corruption. 🥵🤧
You know the judicial system is broken when you can tell by the arguments (fallacious) who the DEI hires are.
Cave burnt , Cold mountains , tent pitched burnt, sandy beaches'..
the statute only applies to someone who “corruptly” obstructs a proceeding, applies to defendants who acted “with an intent to procure an unlawful benefit either for himself or for some other person”
America Disney high treasons , crimes of passion out of touch with reality and that trafficking slavery drama .. Why would any one request that ?!
Most of the U.S Citizens returned to their senses .. Trumps hynposis and witch craft didn't last long .
drama and their chump change of this psychiayrist and expert witness and advisory broke down vehicle that Mohummed mechanics had stolen the catalytic converter from
So u guys are at my house watching me taking my pictures don't come tolk to me wat is going on me so I new wat u people doing ? Gods it's illegal this country u can't but camera in somebody house keep watching them report them to ur government wat I'm doing in my house it not for them t tolk about me in public or world my ew my problem at home.
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It prevented peaceful transfer. The direct effect was total impairment of peace. Fight like hell provoked violence.
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What about kicking the judges off for getting payoffs from billionaires
How about you switch to high flow maxi pads.
TRUMP/Clarence Thomas 2024
@@danmadison5087
Sounds like you've used them
You might be alarmed to see just how many billionaires donate to the DNC and its affiliates. And if a Judge were to ever receive a payout don’t you think Biden’s DOJ would have already prosecuted that? I mean come on you know they’ve done everything in their power to get Trump on whatever charges they could.
Feel free to try and impeach.. there is a mechanism to remove him, but you dont have the votes..
At about 57:00 I'm hearing an absurd disregard to the abusive nature built into all but the most delicate use of legal force. Such a bland thinking process - so rote and automatic and ignorant of consequence. Giddily erasing the context.
" The grandama " had cheated on her blue y'd familia with the Mohumned uncle cousin brother and had her of eviL Iva monsters drama ..
prepubescent child would be fruitless-literally. But, whether we like it or not, this isn’t so for a teenage girl who has just come of age,
If they meant otherwise spoil evidence they would have written that. They were clearly focused on the obstruction of a proceeding. It also doesn’t mean that if you block a bridge and that has the impact of impeding a proceeding that would be so far removed from the intent such that it would be irrelevant. But if you do stage a sit in this could apply and reasonably so. Also if the justices as so focussed on text then they should take the broad interpretation just as they have with the 2nd amendment. They are so inconsistent with their appeal to text.
While them and their chump change millionaires of 100 dollars
How they ask information they can use this body I don't new about ?
The Lord is going to completely destroy everything on earth. He will twist its surface. He'll scatter those who live on it.
The attorney that's leading this lawsuit should be the next appointee to the Supreme Court because she appears to be Head and Shoulders above them all🎉
I read the Supreme Court ruling on 1st Amendment even in protected and unprotected freedom of speech. Yes political is more protected but also has higher standard to not break its rights.
You're just trying to make excuses for a man that caused a riot
You may prefer focusing on Trump, but it's Biden holding the border open like his daughter's legs.
The Supreme Court sickens me to my stomach. I'm trying to figure out why they are covering up for Trump? What language is the Supreme Court SPEAKING. IT'S in English & not SPANISH. I suppose they have already made up their WEAK MINDS to allow a future potus to POOP 💩 ON America😢😢😢😢
@@sassylady54 you disgust me with your willful Biden loving ignorance.
This coming from adherents of a party that incited riots for an entire summer, burned cities, destroyed businesses, caused killings, I have no regard for anybody who doesn't also condemn that.
just come of age, who is reproductively viable and whose brand-new state of fertility can more or less ensure paternity for the male
Yet a 10 year left un attended and murders a toddler .. That child is incarcertated and not the neglectful parents for leaving their toddler with a 10 year old child ..
Let’s Gi for Trump at 2024 no more wall so tall ok dismiss please 🙏 for all love God and peace on the World 🌍 ❤😂
Cinderella’s Evil Stepmother then stole Cinderella’s inheritance and enslaved Cinderella in her own home
Repeatd offenders , crimes of passion , de ja vu drama .
Not moving to Canada either .. They Mexican France in Florida
Advisary and expert witness as a psychologist ..
Making excuses for criminals that's what these judges do
Why can't voters cast their votes by computers or cell phones to avoid voter intimidation and allow more participation?
Mohummed France Mexicans not of Greeko Latinos
It's been said that police officers died on January 6th and so did one seditionist therefore someone should be charged with those murders😢
Americans use my body for ther future economic way ?
That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.
Way ur government to ont tell me about this body they need it for ther economic? They need it rong thing to do?
If the court decides that insurrections are legal, we’ll remember that the next time the right wins an election.
Is not fair for my Lilith day one abd children resurected repeated drama and children that gaed had created of Nature and Earth ..
We're sure you're going to make a law where criminals can get out of whatever they do including Trump
They don’t create laws, that is the Legislative Branch 🤦🏻
Just so I can better my education and take a bus at 5 a.M to be in a 5 week class 7 a. t 3 p or better pay .. Then be at work at 7 a.M till 7 p.M ..
The sun not Annaukis planet of a giant star that they needed resources of repeated offenders of Nasa drama ?
I hope you enjoy as McDonald's hamburgers and fries and your diet coke
1nce again and then Mohummed still tried to invade my signifigance hiuse
That why in 2019 ; 2 cars' had the bus limo I was in age 36 ..
Sometimes a planet needs a reaL queen .. Instead of a poser for 3 years'..
They won't do anything about it to scared of trump.
Why don't you check the appeals court that took on and gave you plenty of reasons why this man should not get immunity or any of the January 6th insurrectionist and the people that help organize it
Scotus isnt bound by the appealate court. The appealate court is bound by scotus..
Hating one type person , not my problem either .. Not the same as those terrorists of gawd wrath
The judges have already made their minds up to NOT implicate Trump for his role in all this!!
Trump told people to "Peacefully and Patriotically" protest. How could that implicate him?
@@chiefkyle1098Trump said to 'Fight like hell'. Sound familiar?
@@gooberclownwhich was taking out of context! Listen to the whole speech not cherry pick statements!
@@Lyaworski123 Tell Trump to shut up! 🥴🍊😸🤪💯
@@gooberclown You left out the rest of that where he said 'peacefully;
Pangea , seperation and segregations and yet that still in my face telling me what I am ? !
Mohummed Bin Salman is also a social climber of his mother .
Venus too hot , Mars and Moon too dry and the morning star sun of hell is on fire..
You hide in you're peasant cars when it rains Jews tears any ways'..
How would the Supreme Court Justices respond if the Supreme Court were to be overrun by armed protesters while the court is in session? I hope the Supreme Court gets this right for the betterment of the Republic; lets not give the green light for groups to take over government buildings when issues don't go their way. I hope my post makes sense. This was a insurrection where people were hurt and killed while in performance of their duties; lets not water this down. Allow the process to work and let people have their day in court and let a jury of their peers be the ones who vote on whether a person is found guilty or not guilty. The insurrection on January 6th was a form of domestic terrorism.
What else problems you have with ivf