@@Outlaw5150_yeehaw It is not legal to brandish a firearm in a situation like this (felony menacing with a deadly weapon) you do not pull a gun unless you intend to use it, man with gun was wrong in every instance here.
yep this is one of those i have a gun and just want too use it type guys too me. i think he was just looking for a issue to use his firearm even tho he started it by throwing rocks { which rocks in some states are considred weapons also }
@AngryPeopleMedia - I'm so glad I can trust you! If I can't trust Angry People with firearms, who can I trust? .... You really don't see the problem do you?
Same, I’ve seen some other of his videos where a simple road rage instant leads to others dying and I just don’t want that on myself or family so now I’m rather calm both inside and outside the car
Immediately knew it was Utah County from the mountain range, too. Was going to search to pinpoint better, but thought I'd scroll through and see if anyone else had answered.
I call it hot head population control. It happens when two hot heads cross paths. In some cases most of them truly unfortunate, there is one less hot head in the world. In my younger days I was a member of the hot head population, now I am a member of the level headed student of John's ccw population
Everyone has a preference, did you hear about the recent lawsuit on Sig?Obviously Sig isn’t considered cheap or entry level, go ahead and carry with one in the chamber, then you can join the lawsuit too cool guy after you shoot your own foot 😂 🤦♂️.
So what did this tell you about that guy? This is a real question and I'm curious as to your answer. Thanks for your time if you choose to answer. I would really like to understand your thought process here.
@@gugsadesalegn8579 Best stay ready so you ain’t gotta get ready. The intensity of the adrenaline you’d typically get in the heat of the moment is enough to make someone not realize they don’t have a round chambered💀. Stay safe yall
Assuming the truck is faster and them not wanting to be tailed home, how exactly do you expect the couple to stay on the defense after being chased down in such a way. So many L takes above
@@CM-ve1bz Screw off with that, it's clear they were trying to park, probably to do some grocery shopping, which they had every right to do. This piece of shit, ran them down, attacked them, and then pulled a gun. He deserves prison time, or better yet, some hot lead. I hate apologists like you.
Considering how much the guy with the gun did to escalate the fight on pretty much every on camera portion, I think it's safe to say he can't use self-defense to argue his way out of aggravated assault charges. I think when the jury sees the part where he threw a rock at the retreating other driver, they're going to bury him!
@@CM-ve1bz The truck drive is the original aggressor and even though they came back, it could be argued that A. it was all a single instance and that he started it, which means he loses his self defense argument, and B. he drew a gun on an unarmed man who posed no imminent deadly threat even though he threw a rock earlier, thus he had no legal right to use deadly force. I think the truck guy was on very think ice and I would not be surprised to see the ice break and him fall into jail over this.
Sadly people who carry like this are the reason I carry. I often have my wife and daughter in the car and it is a scary feeling knowing I can't protect my family if someone has a gun. The couple shouldn't have gotten out to retaliate but tbh if I'm being followed like that I'm not pulling into a walmart parking lot. I'm pulling into the nearest police station while on the phone with an operator and my wife recording. If I can't make it to a police station then I will drive as defensively and safely as possible and if our cars come to a halt I will try to be the first with my gun drawn and out of the car making sure my family is safe.
Precisely this, people who rage like this not only should not carry any guns, but they need to have their license taken away. Road rage should be treated like DUI.
As a semi driver for 31 years now I see road rage 10-15 times a day and I see stupid drivers do stupid things over 100x a day.. like you said, let it go cuz you’ll never see them again. It takes all the patience I can muster to not want to retaliate when cars do idiotic things around my semi, but with age comes maturity so I have to let it go. Road rage…It’s not worth killing or dying over.
Never forget people do dumb things around semis because semi truck drivers are some of the most dangerous drivers and they are stupid low IQ laborers. The dumbest driving I’ve ever seen was from truck drivers.
🙄Be interesting to hear how that 911 call went. "Yeah, I chased these folks down in my truck and was throwing rocks at them because they wouldn't sit still for me ranting and yelling at them. Then they had the nerve to turn around and confront me about the rock throwing, so I pulled my gun to wave around and shoved a woman when she got in my face about it. Nah, they ran off. Sure, I'll wait right here for the officers to give my statement!"🙄
Did we watch the same video🙄 it was the unhinged female who was out of control. Why would you shove a man with a gun unless you wanted to get shot. Even the dumbass boyfriend had to drag her away lmao
@@Ranger_k16, she was stupid, but not necessarily in the wrong either. The dude in the truck started with the physical violence, as he wrongfully threw the first stone.
Keep women in the car if possible, too. Since they never have experienced violence, they are too quick to escalate to violence. They almost never face any consequences of or for violence..
That incident between the neighbors about snow shoveling serves as a reminder of how far some people are willing to go. Nobody fights anymore. It is never worth it.
That man also had nothing to lose, if I remember correctly he lost his wife not too long before he did what he did, also the ongoing shit that they had between them definitely didn't help lol
A fractured ego does that to people. They just won't let themselves be bested in any conflict and always want to have the final word. That's the only way they can feel good about themselves. It's a miserable existence, and unfortunately quite a common one.
Hardly a day goes by without someone irritating me in traffic. I don't follow them so I can impart my wisdom with them. I give them even more room so when they do something else stupid I won't get caught up in it.
I hear you. Yesterday a uber eats delivery driver slowed and did not indicate he was stopping. Im in the right hand lane to turn the corner he stopped right on the corner then put on his 4 ways. Even though there was a spot. It was so sudden that I was close to his bumper that I had to back up to go around him and then swing over to make my right hand turn. I was irate I did not say anything but just stared hard. I wanted to pull in front of him and Block him in like he did me and put 4 ways on. Double park infront of the double parkers but I didnt. Do you think that would be to aggro?
@@outlander2878 I agree. They need to make the skills test for a drivers license more complete. Merging, driving with Tractor trailers( give em room), motorcycles. My biggest pet peeve is double parking when and where ever. Specially with a space close by. Its the bane of my daily commute. I have to slalom thru the lanes dodgeing double parkers in the street.
its the century old driving laws attitude and inflated egos on the road. All driving culture in America inflates all those dynamics. People here drive so horribly bad and don't give a kcuf about anybody else on the road
Bonus Tip: If you’re a bystander walking through the lot like the guy at 5:50, and you see some folks in a shouting match (and especially if one of them has a gun) get out of the danger zone. Pay attention to your world, and bug outta there if you see something like this fight going on. You don’t know where the participants are going to run, and you don’t know where bullets might start flying.
Ever since I started to carry, it has taken a lot for me to become rageful behind the wheel. Pulling a gun because your mad is a bitch move. The truck driver was chasing them down, so if something would have happened, he would have been destroyed in court.
@user-yq1ps9ot8o The truck driver. He walked them down as they were initially trying to leave. Then proceeded to throw an object at their vehicle prompting the couple to exit their vehicle. Lastly pulling a firearm in a non-life-threatening situation. This is on the truck driver.
@@CM-ve1bz the fault would fall on the guy who literally chased the couple down and threw rocks then brandished a firearm illegally for literally no reason 😊
@@CM-ve1bz probably still with the truck guy. He chased them down twice once in the parking lot and then when they were trying to leave. They can argue he damaged their car with the rock he threw so they got out approached him when he then pulled the pistol. But they should’ve just left.
my thought, the only reason the left is crying over more strict gun laws is because the right is a bunch of nutjobs, that dude 100% should lose his lizens to carry because he is fucked in the head. nobody that has to visit a psychiatrist or any sort of mental health doctor (which is like half the US) should be allowed to carry anyway...
Yeah but only thing that couple had to do was retreat Because they already got out of situation earlier, the moment they decided to go back and attack him they became the one in wrong and exemplary preparator.
It was annoying seeing his girl doing all that when there's a gun in play. "Pride" is the devil that's why there's alot of r.i.ps. I understand, it also escalates the situation too.
A woman will get you shot. I had an incident the other day where a guy was riding my bumper and changing lanes back and forth in a race to get to the next stop light. He finally went around me and then whips it so close I had to slam on my brakes or he would have hit the front of my truck. It was weird because we were just rolling in traffic like everyone else maybe 45mph. We got up beside him at the next stop light and he had his window down screaming and yelling at me about driving slow. Blah blah. When I am by myself I don't engage with them. I don't roll down the window. I don't even look at them. My wife rolls down her window and starts yelling at the guy. An older bald headed dude. He got so P'd off and red in the face. She just kept running her mouth making him madder. Every time I rolled up the window she would roll it back down. He started getting out of his truck at one point. I finally screamed at her to shut the F up and he probably has a gun. When we got home I had a LONG talk with her about engaging crazy road-ragers. I learned a lot from this channel right here and I showed her a couple of videos. I asked her if she would do that if she was driving by herself and she said no. So I said OK you wanna get me shot.? Or get me put in the hospital.? He's not going to beat your ass, he's coming after me.
You are so right a woman will get u killed. She was seconds away from getting them both killed. When woman get mad they lose all sense of control. She was shoving a guy who had a gun
100% it’s in one of the towns north of Orem Utah. That’s cascade mountain and Provo peak in the back ground. And yeah I agree it’s an Utah plate on the truck.
A similar thing happened near me a few weeks ago. Two dudes got into it over something while driving. The victim brake-checks the perp. The perp follows and lets loose a couple of rounds, of which two hits the victim. The news made it seem as if the perp randomly shot at the victim, which he did but not before the incident was escalated by him. Fortunately, the victim will make it, and the perp is locked up with a massive bond amount. Mainly because the perp was out of a felony bond to begin with.
I always find it amusing and fascinating how in situations like this the initial aggressor who wants to be the tough guy always ends up being the one contacting 911 at the end of the encounter as if they're the victim. 😂😂😂
it's a known fact that the person who calls 9/11 instantly creates a bias against the person that didn't call (in the eyes of responding officers), so it's not a bad survival tactic if you're a violent manchild like this guy
@@SirWalterSansRien That's true to a certain extent. NORMALLY, the person who wins the race to 911 is the first person the police will assume is the victim but that's not going to last if they do their investigation and find that you're the one who precipitated the violent encounter to begin with. Just ask that one guy who pulled a knife on the biker whose loud-mouthed wife/girlfriend was instigating the whole thing after the biker was using brass knuckles to defend himself. It'd gone viral and John even did a video on it quite a while ago.
What you don't say, the guy in the pickup truck, you know the armed guy who started this by following them, and as they tried to flee throwing rocks at them to damage their vehicle. The armed punk in the pickup truck needs to be arrested. From what's on the video, he is the cause of this entire event.
@@abumansaray7 I never suggested he damaged their vehicle, I suggested that he attempted to damage their vehicle. You want to talk about assumptions read the goddamn thing and understand it before you reply. It was the obvious intent to damage the vehicle.
This channel has taught me a lot including keeping pride in check. In the world people don’t follow the same values that you do, and having a simple argument could very easily end up with you or someone else hurt or worse because of it and road rage is just one of those instances where someone always has a chance of getting hurt. Honestly fights, and arguments can be avoided most of the time if you just have your pride and ego in check and if possible you should not put yourself into a spot where any confrontation would occur.
Exactly well said. I wish my friends and family would understand your pride or acting tough is not the way to go about things it’s how things escalate and go badly for both parties
I had a nightmare the other night were I made a mistake and in the heat of the moment I transformed From a well trained well skilled self defender to someone who was no longer sane safe moral and prudent then the worst happened: I ended up with John calling me a dumby on the asp channel
The only other one that even comes close to that level of disturbing is when the store clerk gets a coup de gras in the back of the head, for what appeared to be no reason.
That's why he was so aggressive. He's the one who followed the couple, threw a rock and then pulled out the gun next. He probably wouldn't have been as aggressive with his behavior if he didn't have a gun. Without the gun it would have probably been some yelling or hand gestures. But he escalated it by following the couple into the parking lot. Usually when I see road rage, I've never seen anyone following another car. The gun made him braver.
Let's be honest. Both sides of the coin in this altercation have the IQ of roadkill. Both the ego couple and the psycho trying to start a fight so he can shoot someone. I'm all for carrying a sidearm. Hell, I hardly ever leave the house without either my SP-01 CZ-75 or my M1911 (I switch out based on what I'm doing/going for the day) but I would never in a million lifetimes try to start something with somebody then pull my gun on them. That's the physical manifestation of mental retardation, not the actual disability, but the conscience and deliberate degradation of one's own mental capabilities when they obviously know better.
Road rage is inevitably because we are too prideful. We have this "how dare they!" mentality. It's very hard to day to be humble, but it's vitally important. Once you start walking a humble path, you start seeing how insane the world has become.
I was almost in a road rage situation a couple of years ago. A guy was in a lane of traffic that showed numerous signs the lane was ending. Traffic was moving slowly anyway. He was not using a turn signal. So, I did not know that hea wanted to come over. When he finally squeezed in between me and the car in front. He almost hit us both. He flipped me off and motioned for me to pull over. So, I gave him the ok sign. He pulled over, jumped out of his car and I just waved at him as I drove past and never looked back. He finally got back on the road like twenty cars back.
@@gwlane5509 he also stated that the guy wasn't using a signal. If you need to get over, you should always be using a signal. Other drivers can't assume what you are trying to do without you giving a signal. He could have just as well been pulling over onto the shoulder of the road.
If a road rager is following you, don't ever pull off the road to where they can corner you. You just keep driving and outwait them (or call 911 and wait for a patrol car to catch up to you guys). Then, in the parking lot they can easily escape, as the guy is far from his truck while trying to throw rocks at them. If they jump back on the road he''ll never find them. Instead, these dummies go back for more.
I don't need to know the whole story: the guy in the truck is too hotheaded, he is a danger to society, and he should be locked up, and stripped of his 2nd amendment right for this. You never pull a gun on an unarmed person with whom you started a fight. He literally walked up to their car just to pull the gun. He was trying to provoke the liberal in the Subaru to try to fight him just so he could brandish the weapon. This man is extremely weak minded, he should be more than ashamed.
Just me, but 1) you really need to watch who you pull a gun on. Because that will get you shot in a lot of situations. 2) it would have been real easy for them to run him smooth TF over.
This is the mindset of many people once they get a gun. They think they are invincible and can start any conflicts they want because at the end of the day, they have the force multiplier now. This is my issue with guns being as easily accessible as they are. Any lunatic can get a gun for "self protection" and then use it like this. Taunt people into a fight in hopes of getting to gun them down. Thank you John for always giving us these videos so that we know what kind of people are out there.
I don't believe that this is the mindset of "many people" once they get a gun. Some people yes, but these are the exception and are criminally minded. I also don't mind guns being easily accessible. They should be. That just means that all of us responsible / good, sane, sober, moral, prudent individuals get to nullify the force multiplication of criminal behavior. This guy's behavior is criminal and he should be prosecuted and sentenced as such. Strict gun laws just make it more likely that the people who are criminal in nature and who are infinitely more likely to act like this will be the only ones with guns since they do not follow the law. We don't need more gun laws, in fact I would argue we need less. What we do need is firearm education and the enforcement of the laws already on the books for criminals like this which has been utterly lacking in recent years and is responsible for our horrible crime statistics. I wonder what the police department in Pleasant Grove, Utah has done about this? A good police department would track down people like this and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. It would not be too hard and would certainly help prevent future criminal activity and make society safer.
@@pleydoh8541 if you watch these videos a lot, you would know it's a very common occurrence. And it happens more in states that there are loose laws. Majority of these crimes happen in states like Texas where you can get a gun no problem. Also, gun laws don't mean "no guns for good guys", it means it takes more steps than just being old enough to purchase one. Many countries, like Japan, have very strict gun laws that require you to be interviewed by local police, have a couple testimonials from your friends or family, and go through an application process before receiving a firearm. If you would so care to look at the data, it has worked wonderfully as now their gun violence rates are virtually zero. Crazy that the NRA doesn't ever mull this over, because they have too much money to be made in America. Convince everyone that they need a gun to survive, and now there are so many guns in our country, it's all but impossible to get away from them now. Loosening gun laws will do nothing but increase guns in the hands of people who are unwilling to be sane/moral/prudent people and use them as an equalizing factor in an argument.
@@ripztubig4457 Although I agree with some of your points, and feel like you are coming from a good place, I don't think that the bulk of your argument makes any sense considering the current global political environment. Freedom has always been a dangerous/risky endeavor, and I'd rather trust individuals in society to police themselves than a political class that has absolutely lost their freaking minds, and I mean that about both major political parties. I am a moderate, independent person, and in looking up statistics related to our conversation I am struck with how all the data seems to come from centralized sources with obvious manipulation of the statistics. For instance, how gun deaths are how things are labelled instead of gun homicides. Most gun deaths in this country are from suicide. 2/3 of gun deaths in Texas are suicide. The suicide rate is going up drastically. This is manipulation of data, and is ignoring a much larger issue by trying to import suicide data into gun violence data and skewing perception. Comparing Japan to the USA in almost any category isn't an apples to apples comparison considering the vastly homogenous demographics of their country compared to us. The real issue is not gun control, it's societal decline (purposeful from my vantage point). So unless we start making efforts as a society to understand the obvious purposeful destruction of American values / Family values, the COVID conspiracy, the effective violation of our first amendment rights via censorship/canceling, the normalization of destructive behaviors, and the manipulation/control of information through a corrupt government in collusion with big tech and the media, and a whole plethora of other related topics, we cannot understand what the actual problem is. Life is best understood through nuance. Gun control doesn't fix a broken society that has lost it's way, it just gives powerful people more power. Just ask the serfs in Australia.
@@driver3899 - Serf is a medieval term. Webster's dictionary defines a serf as, "a member of a servile feudal class bound to the land and subject to the will of its owner". When applied to modern Australia, I am speaking about what has happened to Australian politics and what is happening to the freedom of Australians since the government took their gun rights and guns away. Especially during the COVID planned-demic. Crazy times we live in.
John's lessons about deescalation have stuck with me and changed my actions on at least one occasion that otherwise would have ended in tragedy. Thanks John.
Guy with the Cap who drew the gun to threaten to win an argument he started by throwing Rocks, which already could seriously injure somebody, and then following them knowing he carries should immediatly be banned from possesing firearms and should face time in prison. He started the fight by throwing Rocks and then threated both of them with murder because he has temper issues. If the pair would have also carried probably 2 of 3 people seen in the video would have died because of his short sighted temper. You should always be responsible and de-escalte, espacially when you carry.
Guy had a big head because he was carrying. Im sure he wouldn't have acted like that if he wasn't carrying. Guys like that give the rest of us a bad name. Always looking for a reason to pull their gun.
This is Utah. Don't know any other info but it's undeniably Utah. I've lived here my whole life and I can absolutely say that this kind of thing is no surprise. Here in Utah we have the absolute worst drivers, and road rage incidents are the norm. For whatever reason the minute people get behind the wheel, all manners and common decency just goes out the window.
Yeah, it's Utah. I live here too. Bad drivers. It is a constitutional carry state. So, you don't need a CCW permit to carry a concealed weapon. I like that but this guy is the kind of person that could ruin it for good, sane, moral, prudent concealed weapon carriers. Too bad!
@@warrenharrison9490 But he started it by chasing them with his truck then egging them on and throwing rocks. He's not in any better standing then they were.
I have to wait until Im in a good head space before I try and even watch and process vids like these. Real eye opening to see how these situations can escalate quickly with little provocation. AVOID ROAD RAGE! One of the best things ever heard John say, “if it *can* turn into an ego battle then it WILL”.
100% it was the women behind this. Judging how quickly she jumped out to go fight a guy with a gun, she probably said something to he boyfriend like, you are gonna let him get away with that are you?
@@r.a.williamsakablackmullet8325 it's because half the comments are about dudes in trucks having little pp. The other half is anti gun cucks with no critical thinking or analytical skills
as someone who lives in the great state of texas and carries everyday, we need to be safe, responsible and respectful. we do not escalate road rage, we do not throw rocks at individuals. we simply dont look for problems and then stick our gun in peoples face. get off the alcohol get off the drugs don’t endanger everyone. its not even about guns, why cant people walk out of their homes and behave decently why is that so difficult
he followed them, got out and accosted them, threw a rock at them, and then when they didn't like it (even if they should have liked it and left) he pulled a gun on them. Regardless of what happened in traffic, it looks like the objectively bad guy had the gun.
@@abikeanditsboy3449 Yes, so true. The cops will question the civilian about whether they made the effort to get away. They aren't going to ask you if you felt in danger. A cop will make up whatever story they think they can get away with.
This is Utah, most likely somewhere in the valley between salt lake and Provo. At 1:50 you can clearly see the Utah license plate and the unmistakable Utah mountains in the background.
@John, this is in Utah, sadly I live here now and these guys are the ones who give responsible carriers and guns a bad name. This is the second road rage incident in a matter of weeks here in utah where a gun was pulled, the first in sandy, the gun was used and the gentleman died from his wounds.
I lived in Utah most of my life. Sadly, we never had these road rage incidents until all the Californians started moving here. Now, all types of crime are increasing.
@@SouEuIAm I'm 63 and from California....frankly the comment offends me. As far as I'm concerned, California was a sane and safe place to live until about 20 years ago...and then things got stupid. It certainly seems to me that what happened was all the crazy people from everywhere in the country moved here...and then the rest of the country knocks us because people from here move there.
UT is a very safe place to live generally speaking. But I'd agree it has the worst drivers I've ever seen. I read an article somewhere that substantiated that claim. UT was ranked as having the worst drivers in the nation.
@@SouEuIAm - Yup, Californians have moved here too and the aggressive driving and road rage incidents are on the increase. It's strange you can see a direct correlation between the two.
I almost learned this the hard way last week. Dude pissed me off cuz he was speeding and was so close to hitting me I got mad and flipped him off when I got to the light. Well he rolled down his window, pulled up a pistol and said "do it again and find out". So yea, I just drove off but people are just way to quick to grab guns these days.
If you ask me, he shouldn't be allowed to own a gun or drive at all after what he did to you. It seems almost no one (unless they've actually been in real situations) is tough unless they're behind glass, with their friends, or have a gun.
Good advice! Just had someone nearly run into me in traffic today because they went the wrong direction on a roundabout. My reaction was to avoid the accident and then I went on my way.
It looks a lot like Utah. More specifically it looks like Ogden Utah to me. The license plate on the back of that pick up also has the in good we trust plate with the American flag on it.
Yea the last time I saw a "go ahead shoot me stance" on this channel, the women ended up being executed in the street with an AR15..... beyond stupid to "test" someone.
Looks like it may be a love triangle, stalking thing, to me. Especially the way she had no problem going after him and jumping in his face. Like she knew him and was familiar with what he would and wouldn't do.
I've experienced some major road rage (I live in a major city/metro area), but the two worst examples were on I-95 near Baltimore (lady almost wrecked her car with a little kid on the backseat while screaming at us, she ultimately almost clipped an 18 wheeler), and a stalker on I-70 in the mountains of Colorado (he kept getting off the roadway and coming back up, trying to wave us onward up to him, but the Sheriff put a BOLO/APB out on him). Just stay cool, and think the situation through, you can handle it at various levels without needing to directly engage. Also, think of your family first. My Old Man taught me many different ways to handle various situations, and he grew up tougher than anyone I know, but he's also smart, and he's lived to a ripe old age, so I know that the proof of his ways is a wisdom I must learn.
Totally agree with you John, de-escalation IF POSSIBLE. Thing I've noticed is when I was young, if there was an issue like this you might hear some f-this, f-that, middle finger and both would drive off. Now, I've noticed the "perceived offended" person won't let it go. They'll follow you all over the place, cut in front of you to block you and make you exit your vehicle to fight, sometimes they try to run you off the road. People don't let it go anymore, they're itching for a fight, that never happened when I was young, just didn't escalate. Also, a recommendation is to pull into a police station (if you happen to be lucky enough to pass one that is) or call the police. I have numerous employees/friends/acquaintances and such who have tried this, they all tell me the police never show up, they don't seem to care, it's not a priority. Police nowadays give priority to an LGBTQ+ person who has received a perceived insult or as they call it "hate speech" directed towards them. That WILL have the police show up super fast. Basic law & order issues are not a priority to police departments today. Road rage is much harder to deal with today, you get some crazy guy on your tail who's itching for a fight, police don't care to respond you're on your own.
You think the cops are diverting emergency services towards combating hate speech? You're told that they dont respond to calls about being followed and fearing for your life but they ARE doing something about hate speech? IF THEY CANT PROTECT A RANDOM CITIZEN FROM A LEGITIMATE CALL THEN THEYRE DOING SHIT ALL ABOUT HATE SPEECH YOU DONUT. They're too busy oppressing the public for revenue and circlejerking eachother as heaven sent sheepdogs to give a fuck about the lgbtq community getting hate speech, I know, cause I get death threats and told to kill myself almost daily and the cops won't do shit about it 😂 quit lying and do some critical thinking. The cops aren't your friends in the first place, they want to hem you up on anything they can stick so they can shuffle you into their for profit prison systems and make out on the backs of the disenfranchised and exploited
OMG a woman and their little doggie is there and it's time to run into a potential deadly situation and then the dude in the pick up know's he is carrying a gun and still drives the guy down knowing there is a woman and little doggie.. Nobodys ego should ever be this stupid and she could use some training on how not to act when a gun is pointed at you.
Pleasant Grove utah right off the I 15. It's not at all out of the ordinary for most people in utah to have a gun. Also when the Mormons forget to take the sacrament they can get a little feisty
Not only that she was likely still amped up the whole way home calling her man a punk & whatever else for grabbing her instead of going after the guy with the gun. Hopefully once home she calmed down & realized if she continued doing what she was doing she almost certainly would have gotten her & possibly her man shot. If she doesn't realize that I hope homeboy leaves her, cause a girl like that can get you in all sorts of trouble.
That’s unmistakably Utah Valley. Probably American Fork area. That’s the Wasatch Front mountain range, Provo Peak, Squaw Peak, Y Mountain. I’ve climbed all of those.
If the guy with a gun keeps using his gun as an intimidation factor like that he’s eventually going to do it to someone who’s actually willing to use theirs
For most people carrying a fire arm, a conflict is the last thing they want to happen. With this guy however, we will probably be re-visiting with him down the road on youtube.
Women who don’t understand the threat of violence can likely lead to you losing your life - pick your partners wisely. Glad the unarmed guy didn’t lose his life
That man in the pickup clearly was waiting to pull that firearm out. What a clown. Thanks for the videos!
One day he will find the fight he wants with another angry idiot!
He should meet someone who won’t take his bs and would shoot him back.
@@Outlaw5150_yeehaw It is not legal to brandish a firearm in a situation like this (felony menacing with a deadly weapon) you do not pull a gun unless you intend to use it, man with gun was wrong in every instance here.
@@Outlaw5150_yeehaw just keep in mind, little man, you never know who else is carrying.
Yep that’s what happens when microdick truck driver + gun
Man with the gun should be arrested for escalating and threatening people with a gun. He also started the rock throwing.
Ya why does that child have a gun? Lmao
Yup. Definitely NOT self-defense.
It's always these guys in these pickups as well, I had someone pull a gun on me a month ago for cutting him off. People are senless now a days
@@chhansen9813 did... Did you not watch the same video we all did?
200%
Love how the tough guy has the courage to confront someone like that & call them on then pull a gun. Super tough
guys like that get smoked eventually
As someone who carries a firearm every day, It is your responsibility to defuse any kind of conflict and avoid incidents like these at all costs.
You are exactly correct.
yep this is one of those i have a gun and just want too use it type guys too me. i think he was just looking for a issue to use his firearm even tho he started it by throwing rocks { which rocks in some states are considred weapons also }
Yes. This is probably one of the most important comments we could see period.
@AngryPeopleMedia - I'm so glad I can trust you! If I can't trust Angry People with firearms, who can I trust? .... You really don't see the problem do you?
@@itzmefelon You nailed it. It's almost certain that without that gun he wouldn't have escalated near to that point.
Watching these videos has turned me into a very calm driver. I never, ever feel any type of anger for stuff I used to.
You Nailed it Partner 👍😎
Same, I’ve seen some other of his videos where a simple road rage instant leads to others dying and I just don’t want that on myself or family so now I’m rather calm both inside and outside the car
Too much paperwork
@@AnimationsN1 exactly the piece of shit had a gun and threw rocks then acts like he's the responsible one
I feel it, I just don't let it get outside my head.
Active Self Protection
Cured me forever of road rage..thank you John
This happened in Pleasant Grove, Utah. You can see a Utah license plate, the Utah Valley mountain range, and a Starbucks next to a Verizon store.
Ya I see the Utah plate on the Truck
I knew Utah County for sure. The mountains
Immediately knew it was Utah County from the mountain range, too. Was going to search to pinpoint better, but thought I'd scroll through and see if anyone else had answered.
I recognized the mountains almost immediately. I lived in PG for 6 or 7 years as a kid.
What a beautiful view thanks this should be the top comment!
“There are many rights worth dying for, right of way isn’t one of them”
Well said!
That’s a good one.
Very well spoken
Nice
I call it hot head population control. It happens when two hot heads cross paths. In some cases most of them truly unfortunate, there is one less hot head in the world. In my younger days I was a member of the hot head population, now I am a member of the level headed student of John's ccw population
The fact that he had to chamber a round tells me everything I need to know about that guy..
Everyone has a preference, did you hear about the recent lawsuit on Sig?Obviously Sig isn’t considered cheap or entry level, go ahead and carry with one in the chamber, then you can join the lawsuit too cool guy after you shoot your own foot 😂 🤦♂️.
So what did this tell you about that guy? This is a real question and I'm curious as to your answer. Thanks for your time if you choose to answer. I would really like to understand your thought process here.
totally weak little boy
Fact he carries a gun everywhere he goes telld me he's a wuss
@@gugsadesalegn8579 Best stay ready so you ain’t gotta get ready. The intensity of the adrenaline you’d typically get in the heat of the moment is enough to make someone not realize they don’t have a round chambered💀. Stay safe yall
Dude that pulled the gun should definitely catch charges for this.
Yea if he doesnt catch some hot lead first for trying to act tough
I say lock up all 3
No defensive display of a firearm ended the situation. He felt threatened with 2vs 1 and an unknown dog. Well done.
Assuming the truck is faster and them not wanting to be tailed home, how exactly do you expect the couple to stay on the defense after being chased down in such a way. So many L takes above
@@CM-ve1bz Screw off with that, it's clear they were trying to park, probably to do some grocery shopping, which they had every right to do. This piece of shit, ran them down, attacked them, and then pulled a gun. He deserves prison time, or better yet, some hot lead. I hate apologists like you.
Considering how much the guy with the gun did to escalate the fight on pretty much every on camera portion, I think it's safe to say he can't use self-defense to argue his way out of aggravated assault charges. I think when the jury sees the part where he threw a rock at the retreating other driver, they're going to bury him!
Yeah, he's an idiot if I've ever seen one!
There not gonna find him
@@levelup2014 license plates are very easy to look up.
@@levelup2014 lol you can see his make/model and license plate.
@@CM-ve1bz The truck drive is the original aggressor and even though they came back, it could be argued that A. it was all a single instance and that he started it, which means he loses his self defense argument, and B. he drew a gun on an unarmed man who posed no imminent deadly threat even though he threw a rock earlier, thus he had no legal right to use deadly force. I think the truck guy was on very think ice and I would not be surprised to see the ice break and him fall into jail over this.
Sadly people who carry like this are the reason I carry. I often have my wife and daughter in the car and it is a scary feeling knowing I can't protect my family if someone has a gun. The couple shouldn't have gotten out to retaliate but tbh if I'm being followed like that I'm not pulling into a walmart parking lot. I'm pulling into the nearest police station while on the phone with an operator and my wife recording. If I can't make it to a police station then I will drive as defensively and safely as possible and if our cars come to a halt I will try to be the first with my gun drawn and out of the car making sure my family is safe.
good plan to have for that situation. sounds like a true husband and father
Precisely this, people who rage like this not only should not carry any guns, but they need to have their license taken away. Road rage should be treated like DUI.
I wish everybody had the same thought process as you have here.
As a semi driver for 31 years now I see road rage 10-15 times a day and I see stupid drivers do stupid things over 100x a day.. like you said, let it go cuz you’ll never see them again. It takes all the patience I can muster to not want to retaliate when cars do idiotic things around my semi, but with age comes maturity so I have to let it go. Road rage…It’s not worth killing or dying over.
Absolutely agree.
You're driving a steel juggernaut. In the battle of semi vs 95% of cars on the road, you win.
I’m a utility company worker in a high crime inner city and the driving is literally insane
Never forget people do dumb things around semis because semi truck drivers are some of the most dangerous drivers and they are stupid low IQ laborers. The dumbest driving I’ve ever seen was from truck drivers.
As a car driver, I see plenty of semi drivers doing stupid things too.
🙄Be interesting to hear how that 911 call went. "Yeah, I chased these folks down in my truck and was throwing rocks at them because they wouldn't sit still for me ranting and yelling at them. Then they had the nerve to turn around and confront me about the rock throwing, so I pulled my gun to wave around and shoved a woman when she got in my face about it. Nah, they ran off. Sure, I'll wait right here for the officers to give my statement!"🙄
How stupid road rage can get! Can't say better!!
😂😂😂
Did we watch the same video🙄 it was the unhinged female who was out of control. Why would you shove a man with a gun unless you wanted to get shot. Even the dumbass boyfriend had to drag her away lmao
@@Ranger_k16, she was stupid, but not necessarily in the wrong either. The dude in the truck started with the physical violence, as he wrongfully threw the first stone.
@@Ranger_k16 Well that’s a delusional take on this video
Everytime I get cut off on the freeway, I think of these videos and decide wisely to let it go 👍
Never let 10 seconds of ego bruise become a situation that potentially lasts forever
Keep women in the car if possible, too. Since they never have experienced violence, they are too quick to escalate to violence. They almost never face any consequences of or for violence..
@@MikeYurbasovich def a good boyfriend saved her life
Like dead forever
That incident between the neighbors about snow shoveling serves as a reminder of how far some people are willing to go. Nobody fights anymore. It is never worth it.
That man also had nothing to lose, if I remember correctly he lost his wife not too long before he did what he did, also the ongoing shit that they had between them definitely didn't help lol
You're right Harold; that video was the MOST BEST example of such madness John 3:16
I don’t think I’ll ever forget that video or what I learned from it.
@@cw5451 Me neither.
That video sticks with me every day
Dude was doing so good while he was driving off. And then he just…stopped.
@Andra Notlim Well if that was the case then it's time for a new wife. Keep the doggie though.
Yup
@andranotlim9226 Ah the old Karen Trap.
@@barryweaver8833 sadly he kept the Karen and lost the dog
A fractured ego does that to people. They just won't let themselves be bested in any conflict and always want to have the final word. That's the only way they can feel good about themselves. It's a miserable existence, and unfortunately quite a common one.
Hardly a day goes by without someone irritating me in traffic. I don't follow them so I can impart my wisdom with them. I give them even more room so when they do something else stupid I won't get caught up in it.
Just let stupid do as stupid does and keep yourself clear.
#1 tip for motorcycle riders too.
I hear you. Yesterday a uber eats delivery driver slowed and did not indicate he was stopping. Im in the right hand lane to turn the corner he stopped right on the corner then put on his 4 ways. Even though there was a spot. It was so sudden that I was close to his bumper that I had to back up to go around him and then swing over to make my right hand turn. I was irate I did not say anything but just stared hard. I wanted to pull in front of him and Block him in like he did me and put 4 ways on. Double park infront of the double parkers but I didnt. Do you think that would be to aggro?
@@outlander2878 I agree. They need to make the skills test for a drivers license more complete. Merging, driving with Tractor trailers( give em room), motorcycles. My biggest pet peeve is double parking when and where ever. Specially with a space close by. Its the bane of my daily commute. I have to slalom thru the lanes dodgeing double parkers in the street.
its the century old driving laws attitude and inflated egos on the road. All driving culture in America inflates all those dynamics. People here drive so horribly bad and don't give a kcuf about anybody else on the road
YAS!
All things considered, it went much better than expected.
yeah, the guy with the dog is going to just run from road rage incidents now. But the guy who drew the gun should lose his rights to own one.
No defensive display of a firearm ended the situation. He felt threatened with 2vs 1 and an unknown dog. Well done.
@@Lol-gu5bc defensive? Lol he agitated instigated and escalated the entire course of conflict..he was all offense and should be charged.
LOL, yep! 😄
@@Lol-gu5bcbetter to avoid all together but yeah
Bonus Tip: If you’re a bystander walking through the lot like the guy at 5:50, and you see some folks in a shouting match (and especially if one of them has a gun) get out of the danger zone. Pay attention to your world, and bug outta there if you see something like this fight going on. You don’t know where the participants are going to run, and you don’t know where bullets might start flying.
Ever since I started to carry, it has taken a lot for me to become rageful behind the wheel. Pulling a gun because your mad is a bitch move. The truck driver was chasing them down, so if something would have happened, he would have been destroyed in court.
Yeah, you can't really claim self-defense if you're the instigator.
@user-yq1ps9ot8o The truck driver. He walked them down as they were initially trying to leave. Then proceeded to throw an object at their vehicle prompting the couple to exit their vehicle. Lastly pulling a firearm in a non-life-threatening situation. This is on the truck driver.
@@CM-ve1bz the fault would fall on the guy who literally chased the couple down and threw rocks then brandished a firearm illegally for literally no reason 😊
DESTROYED! x²
@@CM-ve1bz probably still with the truck guy. He chased them down twice once in the parking lot and then when they were trying to leave. They can argue he damaged their car with the rock he threw so they got out approached him when he then pulled the pistol. But they should’ve just left.
Usually the more aggressive person in these situations has the gun and feels like a God 🙄. He chased them down first
@UCBF9nqStgk9ekpqT66_UKrg gun licence revoked for life and a good 3 years in jail that no balls bastard.
my thought, the only reason the left is crying over more strict gun laws is because the right is a bunch of nutjobs, that dude 100% should lose his lizens to carry because he is fucked in the head.
nobody that has to visit a psychiatrist or any sort of mental health doctor (which is like half the US) should be allowed to carry anyway...
wtf is that @ lmao
Yeah but only thing that couple had to do was retreat Because they already got out of situation earlier, the moment they decided to go back and attack him they became the one in wrong and exemplary preparator.
He threw a rock first too they are real tough when they have a gun on their hip
The guy in the pick up truck fallowed them,threw a rock and pulled a gun.What a citizen!!!
Man with the gun acted tuff cause he knew he had a gun on him. I doubt he be doing that without it..
the girl shoving the guy is a perfect example of the results of living without consequences
...or not caring about consequences. Some people feel like they don't have anything left to lose.
It was annoying seeing his girl doing all that when there's a gun in play. "Pride" is the devil that's why there's alot of r.i.ps.
I understand, it also escalates the situation too.
agree 100%. Now a days there is a lot these "tough" women. cringe
People seem to think their immortal when their in the moment. But reality doesn't adhere to adrenaline highs and anger.
dont people are ready to die and want to die. You better remember that. Lol.
Carrying should make you more controlled and disciplined. Do not engage in conflicts that aren’t essential or unavoidable. Stay safe guys ❤️
A woman will get you shot. I had an incident the other day where a guy was riding my bumper and changing lanes back and forth in a race to get to the next stop light. He finally went around me and then whips it so close I had to slam on my brakes or he would have hit the front of my truck. It was weird because we were just rolling in traffic like everyone else maybe 45mph.
We got up beside him at the next stop light and he had his window down screaming and yelling at me about driving slow. Blah blah. When I am by myself I don't engage with them. I don't roll down the window. I don't even look at them. My wife rolls down her window and starts yelling at the guy. An older bald headed dude. He got so P'd off and red in the face. She just kept running her mouth making him madder. Every time I rolled up the window she would roll it back down. He started getting out of his truck at one point. I finally screamed at her to shut the F up and he probably has a gun. When we got home I had a LONG talk with her about engaging crazy road-ragers. I learned a lot from this channel right here and I showed her a couple of videos. I asked her if she would do that if she was driving by herself and she said no. So I said OK you wanna get me shot.? Or get me put in the hospital.? He's not going to beat your ass, he's coming after me.
You are so right a woman will get u killed. She was seconds away from getting them both killed. When woman get mad they lose all sense of control. She was shoving a guy who had a gun
John, the black Nissan pickup truck has UTAH plates. Mountains in the back, probably Utah. 🤷♂️👍
Thanks for the video!
This does look like it could be in UT. Probably in the Spanish Fork area or even West Valley...?
100% it’s in one of the towns north of Orem Utah. That’s cascade mountain and Provo peak in the back ground. And yeah I agree it’s an Utah plate on the truck.
@@markacinense3195 agreed. Looks like the mall in the 9000 south and state street area.
Yeah , I thought Salt Lake City …
A similar thing happened near me a few weeks ago. Two dudes got into it over something while driving. The victim brake-checks the perp. The perp follows and lets loose a couple of rounds, of which two hits the victim. The news made it seem as if the perp randomly shot at the victim, which he did but not before the incident was escalated by him. Fortunately, the victim will make it, and the perp is locked up with a massive bond amount. Mainly because the perp was out of a felony bond to begin with.
That dog must've been an off duty Brazilian cop in his/her past life.
Rt?!?!? Are any of them ever on-duty??? 😂🤣
The dog had no de escalation skills whatsoever.
I am so glad no dogs were harmed in this video.
Woof woof stop throwing rocks
Did the dog get back in the car?
I always find it amusing and fascinating how in situations like this the initial aggressor who wants to be the tough guy always ends up being the one contacting 911 at the end of the encounter as if they're the victim. 😂😂😂
White people Tactic lol
it's a known fact that the person who calls 9/11 instantly creates a bias against the person that didn't call (in the eyes of responding officers), so it's not a bad survival tactic if you're a violent manchild like this guy
@@SirWalterSansRien That's true to a certain extent. NORMALLY, the person who wins the race to 911 is the first person the police will assume is the victim but that's not going to last if they do their investigation and find that you're the one who precipitated the violent encounter to begin with. Just ask that one guy who pulled a knife on the biker whose loud-mouthed wife/girlfriend was instigating the whole thing after the biker was using brass knuckles to defend himself. It'd gone viral and John even did a video on it quite a while ago.
@@ivanorozco4274 in the case of DV it’s almost always the man who gets arrested, regardless of who’s at fault.
"They're never gonna agree with you." Classic line there.
What you don't say, the guy in the pickup truck, you know the armed guy who started this by following them, and as they tried to flee throwing rocks at them to damage their vehicle. The armed punk in the pickup truck needs to be arrested. From what's on the video, he is the cause of this entire event.
@@abumansaray7 I never suggested he damaged their vehicle, I suggested that he attempted to damage their vehicle. You want to talk about assumptions read the goddamn thing and understand it before you reply. It was the obvious intent to damage the vehicle.
This channel has taught me a lot including keeping pride in check. In the world people don’t follow the same values that you do, and having a simple argument could very easily end up with you or someone else hurt or worse because of it and road rage is just one of those instances where someone always has a chance of getting hurt. Honestly fights, and arguments can be avoided most of the time if you just have your pride and ego in check and if possible you should not put yourself into a spot where any confrontation would occur.
Couldnt agree more!
Well said.
Exactly well said. I wish my friends and family would understand your pride or acting tough is not the way to go about things it’s how things escalate and go badly for both parties
The safest outcome here would have been if both dudes were carrying firearms. What could go wrong? *eye roll*
I had a nightmare the other night were I made a mistake and in the heat of the moment I transformed From a well trained well skilled self defender to someone who was no longer sane safe moral and prudent then the worst happened:
I ended up with John calling me a dumby on the asp channel
Great story
"sometimes a firearm can actually escalate a situation and not de-escalate it" Thanks for the wisdom you share..
Man they are lucky they weren’t dealing with the neighbor that was mad about the snow shoveling. Still one of the most gruesome stories you’ve shared.
Right?! That one still haunts me to this day
Pretty crazy too cause that's the very first ASP video I ever watched, and I was hooked lol definitely had to replay that one back
The only other one that even comes close to that level of disturbing is when the store clerk gets a coup de gras in the back of the head, for what appeared to be no reason.
@@vannlo355 Broooooo frfr that shit definitely caught me off guard
@@codywhite2911 thats why id fight like a crazed devil, not gonna leave my life in the hands of scum
Did they leave without the dog?!?!?
The dog is like, "Bring it on." Absolutely no de escalation skills whatsoever.
🤣
I was honestly more worried about the dog than those knuckleheads.
Wow big man feels tough and protected to chase people down and throw rocks and gesture at people because he’s carrying a gun.
Exactly!! Its pretty obvious he only escalated this because he knew he was carrying.
That's why he was so aggressive. He's the one who followed the couple, threw a rock and then pulled out the gun next. He probably wouldn't have been as aggressive with his behavior if he didn't have a gun. Without the gun it would have probably been some yelling or hand gestures. But he escalated it by following the couple into the parking lot. Usually when I see road rage, I've never seen anyone following another car. The gun made him braver.
@@Rhaspun I carry a gun in the car when I’m driving and I’m afraid to even honk at people 😂.
Let's be honest. Both sides of the coin in this altercation have the IQ of roadkill. Both the ego couple and the psycho trying to start a fight so he can shoot someone. I'm all for carrying a sidearm. Hell, I hardly ever leave the house without either my SP-01 CZ-75 or my M1911 (I switch out based on what I'm doing/going for the day) but I would never in a million lifetimes try to start something with somebody then pull my gun on them. That's the physical manifestation of mental retardation, not the actual disability, but the conscience and deliberate degradation of one's own mental capabilities when they obviously know better.
@@1sand0s45 yea what a fucking looser anyone who cares more about their ego that others lives
Road rage is inevitably because we are too prideful. We have this "how dare they!" mentality. It's very hard to day to be humble, but it's vitally important. Once you start walking a humble path, you start seeing how insane the world has become.
I was almost in a road rage situation a couple of years ago. A guy was in a lane of traffic that showed numerous signs the lane was ending. Traffic was moving slowly anyway. He was not using a turn signal. So, I did not know that hea wanted to come over. When he finally squeezed in between me and the car in front. He almost hit us both. He flipped me off and motioned for me to pull over. So, I gave him the ok sign. He pulled over, jumped out of his car and I just waved at him as I drove past and never looked back. He finally got back on the road like twenty cars back.
😂😂
"a lane of traffic that showed numerous signs the lane was ending"......"So, I did not know that hea wanted to come over." This doesn't compute...
Bro that story literally made me lol. Thank you. I needed that 😂
LMAO what a chad
@@gwlane5509 he also stated that the guy wasn't using a signal. If you need to get over, you should always be using a signal. Other drivers can't assume what you are trying to do without you giving a signal. He could have just as well been pulling over onto the shoulder of the road.
“Police, I just stalked a couple, assaulted them and their vehicle and pulled a gun on them, they’re insane!!! Send help!!!”
hey John. I am Truck Driver and I know all the license plate of every state I believe this one comes from Utah and it’s look’s like Salt Lake City
Lol, I saw the mountains in the background, and the first thing I said was Utah
I was thinking Provo Peak and Provo canyon in the background, so Orem?
The guy who pulled the gun should be in jail.
If a road rager is following you, don't ever pull off the road to where they can corner you. You just keep driving and outwait them (or call 911 and wait for a patrol car to catch up to you guys). Then, in the parking lot they can easily escape, as the guy is far from his truck while trying to throw rocks at them. If they jump back on the road he''ll never find them. Instead, these dummies go back for more.
Hard to imagine being so angry living in such a beautiful mountain town.
Utah County; meth capital of Utah 😂👍
Being Utah, he could be an old school Mormon with 6 wives at home waiting to nag him to death so he was already upset before this even happened
Utah drivers are the worst. They must train how to be a-holes.
I don't need to know the whole story: the guy in the truck is too hotheaded, he is a danger to society, and he should be locked up, and stripped of his 2nd amendment right for this. You never pull a gun on an unarmed person with whom you started a fight.
He literally walked up to their car just to pull the gun. He was trying to provoke the liberal in the Subaru to try to fight him just so he could brandish the weapon. This man is extremely weak minded, he should be more than ashamed.
Just me, but 1) you really need to watch who you pull a gun on. Because that will get you shot in a lot of situations. 2) it would have been real easy for them to run him smooth TF over.
They didn't pickup their dog!
Did anyone notice they just bailed on him?
This is the mindset of many people once they get a gun. They think they are invincible and can start any conflicts they want because at the end of the day, they have the force multiplier now. This is my issue with guns being as easily accessible as they are. Any lunatic can get a gun for "self protection" and then use it like this. Taunt people into a fight in hopes of getting to gun them down. Thank you John for always giving us these videos so that we know what kind of people are out there.
I don't believe that this is the mindset of "many people" once they get a gun. Some people yes, but these are the exception and are criminally minded. I also don't mind guns being easily accessible. They should be. That just means that all of us responsible / good, sane, sober, moral, prudent individuals get to nullify the force multiplication of criminal behavior. This guy's behavior is criminal and he should be prosecuted and sentenced as such. Strict gun laws just make it more likely that the people who are criminal in nature and who are infinitely more likely to act like this will be the only ones with guns since they do not follow the law. We don't need more gun laws, in fact I would argue we need less. What we do need is firearm education and the enforcement of the laws already on the books for criminals like this which has been utterly lacking in recent years and is responsible for our horrible crime statistics. I wonder what the police department in Pleasant Grove, Utah has done about this? A good police department would track down people like this and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. It would not be too hard and would certainly help prevent future criminal activity and make society safer.
@@pleydoh8541 if you watch these videos a lot, you would know it's a very common occurrence. And it happens more in states that there are loose laws. Majority of these crimes happen in states like Texas where you can get a gun no problem. Also, gun laws don't mean "no guns for good guys", it means it takes more steps than just being old enough to purchase one. Many countries, like Japan, have very strict gun laws that require you to be interviewed by local police, have a couple testimonials from your friends or family, and go through an application process before receiving a firearm. If you would so care to look at the data, it has worked wonderfully as now their gun violence rates are virtually zero. Crazy that the NRA doesn't ever mull this over, because they have too much money to be made in America. Convince everyone that they need a gun to survive, and now there are so many guns in our country, it's all but impossible to get away from them now. Loosening gun laws will do nothing but increase guns in the hands of people who are unwilling to be sane/moral/prudent people and use them as an equalizing factor in an argument.
@@ripztubig4457 Although I agree with some of your points, and feel like you are coming from a good place, I don't think that the bulk of your argument makes any sense considering the current global political environment. Freedom has always been a dangerous/risky endeavor, and I'd rather trust individuals in society to police themselves than a political class that has absolutely lost their freaking minds, and I mean that about both major political parties. I am a moderate, independent person, and in looking up statistics related to our conversation I am struck with how all the data seems to come from centralized sources with obvious manipulation of the statistics. For instance, how gun deaths are how things are labelled instead of gun homicides. Most gun deaths in this country are from suicide. 2/3 of gun deaths in Texas are suicide. The suicide rate is going up drastically. This is manipulation of data, and is ignoring a much larger issue by trying to import suicide data into gun violence data and skewing perception. Comparing Japan to the USA in almost any category isn't an apples to apples comparison considering the vastly homogenous demographics of their country compared to us. The real issue is not gun control, it's societal decline (purposeful from my vantage point). So unless we start making efforts as a society to understand the obvious purposeful destruction of American values / Family values, the COVID conspiracy, the effective violation of our first amendment rights via censorship/canceling, the normalization of destructive behaviors, and the manipulation/control of information through a corrupt government in collusion with big tech and the media, and a whole plethora of other related topics, we cannot understand what the actual problem is. Life is best understood through nuance. Gun control doesn't fix a broken society that has lost it's way, it just gives powerful people more power. Just ask the serfs in Australia.
@@pleydoh8541 what do you mean by "Just ask the serfs in Australia" ?
@@driver3899 - Serf is a medieval term. Webster's dictionary defines a serf as, "a member of a servile feudal class bound to the land and subject to the will of its owner". When applied to modern Australia, I am speaking about what has happened to Australian politics and what is happening to the freedom of Australians since the government took their gun rights and guns away. Especially during the COVID planned-demic. Crazy times we live in.
Great lessons. Thank you. The mountains and the closest license plate says it is in UTAH.
John's lessons about deescalation have stuck with me and changed my actions on at least one occasion that otherwise would have ended in tragedy.
Thanks John.
You’re welcome!
Road rage is nothing more than foolish pride.
That type of bravado behavior can/will get you killed. I wouldn't draw my sidearm unless I was going to use it. I don't carry for show.
Guy starts an altercation. Pulls a gun when the person confronts them. Then calls the police cause he wants to make up a story first hahaha
The cops told me as they are taking me to jail, he who calls first wins
@@shotgunkawaii116 yeah Not, we did not have cell service! So we could not call.
Guy with the Cap who drew the gun to threaten to win an argument he started by throwing Rocks, which already could seriously injure somebody, and then following them knowing he carries should immediatly be banned from possesing firearms and should face time in prison. He started the fight by throwing Rocks and then threated both of them with murder because he has temper issues. If the pair would have also carried probably 2 of 3 people seen in the video would have died because of his short sighted temper. You should always be responsible and de-escalte, espacially when you carry.
Guy had a big head because he was carrying. Im sure he wouldn't have acted like that if he wasn't carrying. Guys like that give the rest of us a bad name. Always looking for a reason to pull their gun.
This is Utah. Don't know any other info but it's undeniably Utah. I've lived here my whole life and I can absolutely say that this kind of thing is no surprise. Here in Utah we have the absolute worst drivers, and road rage incidents are the norm. For whatever reason the minute people get behind the wheel, all manners and common decency just goes out the window.
South Jordan area maybe?
Agree with you its Utah. License plates, plants(im a landscaper), mountains in background all point to it being Utah
@Joshua Downing pretty area, guess you know specifics, been a long long time since I have been in Utah, going to look up South Jordan, I'm curious
Yeah, it's Utah. I live here too. Bad drivers. It is a constitutional carry state. So, you don't need a CCW permit to carry a concealed weapon. I like that but this guy is the kind of person that could ruin it for good, sane, moral, prudent concealed weapon carriers. Too bad!
Utah Valley, probably American Fork, maybe Lindon based on Provo Peak, Squaw Peak in the background.
Brandishing a firearm to intimidate is a 5 year felony charge here in Florida. You could also add aggravated assault for his behavior as well.
Couple dude was still armed with a large rock 2:23 he drops it after gun is drawn on him.
@@warrenharrison9490 But he started it by chasing them with his truck then egging them on and throwing rocks. He's not in any better standing then they were.
So, the guy pulled a gun out. Now this is where you use your car as a weapon and squash him flat where he stands
I have to wait until Im in a good head space before I try and even watch and process vids like these. Real eye opening to see how these situations can escalate quickly with little provocation. AVOID ROAD RAGE! One of the best things ever heard John say, “if it *can* turn into an ego battle then it WILL”.
100% it was the women behind this. Judging how quickly she jumped out to go fight a guy with a gun, she probably said something to he boyfriend like, you are gonna let him get away with that are you?
Agree 100%, it's weird out of all these comments few have pointed this out!
@@r.a.williamsakablackmullet8325 it's because half the comments are about dudes in trucks having little pp. The other half is anti gun cucks with no critical thinking or analytical skills
as someone who lives in the great state of texas and carries everyday, we need to be safe, responsible and respectful. we do not escalate road rage, we do not throw rocks at individuals. we simply dont look for problems and then stick our gun in peoples face. get off the alcohol get off the drugs don’t endanger everyone. its not even about guns, why cant people walk out of their homes and behave decently why is that so difficult
he followed them, got out and accosted them, threw a rock at them, and then when they didn't like it (even if they should have liked it and left) he pulled a gun on them.
Regardless of what happened in traffic, it looks like the objectively bad guy had the gun.
Right? He's like let's fight then the other guy gets out and he wants to pull a gun.
Yea while carrying YOU have to be the calm one, and NEVER EVER instigate a confrontation.
Yes. That guy shouldn't have followed the couple. His gun made him feel braver to seek a confrontation.
@@abikeanditsboy3449 Yes, so true. The cops will question the civilian about whether they made the effort to get away. They aren't going to ask you if you felt in danger. A cop will make up whatever story they think they can get away with.
I'm just glad the dog was okay! Poor pup has humans with oversized egos.
Its crazy how people cant keep their cool
Some people are really animals
I was done when the dog jumped out. 😂
This is Utah, most likely somewhere in the valley between salt lake and Provo.
At 1:50 you can clearly see the Utah license plate and the unmistakable Utah mountains in the background.
Now in days everyone feels like the terminator with a gun
theyll eventually pull that crap on 1 too many people and win a prize. the #s will go down as time passes.
I always think it’s funny when the aggressor calls the cops 😂
More often than not it is the aggressor who is going to call the cops.
This is right off the freeway in Plesant Grove Utah. I get coffee at the Starbucks sometime and that angle of those mountains is extremely distinctive
@John, this is in Utah, sadly I live here now and these guys are the ones who give responsible carriers and guns a bad name. This is the second road rage incident in a matter of weeks here in utah where a gun was pulled, the first in sandy, the gun was used and the gentleman died from his wounds.
I lived in Utah most of my life. Sadly, we never had these road rage incidents until all the Californians started moving here. Now, all types of crime are increasing.
@@SouEuIAm I'm 63 and from California....frankly the comment offends me. As far as I'm concerned, California was a sane and safe place to live until about 20 years ago...and then things got stupid. It certainly seems to me that what happened was all the crazy people from everywhere in the country moved here...and then the rest of the country knocks us because people from here move there.
UT is a very safe place to live generally speaking. But I'd agree it has the worst drivers I've ever seen. I read an article somewhere that substantiated that claim. UT was ranked as having the worst drivers in the nation.
@@SouEuIAm - Yup, Californians have moved here too and the aggressive driving and road rage incidents are on the increase. It's strange you can see a direct correlation between the two.
I almost learned this the hard way last week. Dude pissed me off cuz he was speeding and was so close to hitting me I got mad and flipped him off when I got to the light. Well he rolled down his window, pulled up a pistol and said "do it again and find out". So yea, I just drove off but people are just way to quick to grab guns these days.
Usually the same people that only throw hands in a group and runs when ANYTHING happens that goes against him
I would let that fool drive off then hit him with PIT maneuver
every driver needs 360 video of their vehicle. Next time this happens drive off and press charges.
It's called "Freedom"
If you ask me, he shouldn't be allowed to own a gun or drive at all after what he did to you. It seems almost no one (unless they've actually been in real situations) is tough unless they're behind glass, with their friends, or have a gun.
You just never know today. Years ago things were different. Very high probability they have guns today.
Good advice! Just had someone nearly run into me in traffic today because they went the wrong direction on a roundabout. My reaction was to avoid the accident and then I went on my way.
how can the aggressor feel so powerful knowing they can always have a backup plan incase the other person decides that they had enough
It looks a lot like Utah. More specifically it looks like Ogden Utah to me. The license plate on the back of that pick up also has the in good we trust plate with the American flag on it.
This gave me pure anxiety that dude in the blue car handled that well.
Yea the last time I saw a "go ahead shoot me stance" on this channel, the women ended up being executed in the street with an AR15..... beyond stupid to "test" someone.
“Live a life of de-escalation…” Great advice.
He escalated it then threatened deadly force? Take his gun away. Horrible example of gun ownership.
I like how the bystander on the phone just keeps on truckin and ignoring the situation. 😂
Typical Pansy truck driver. Wants to be all tough, gets confronted, pulls gun, and then calls cops
Looks like it may be a love triangle, stalking thing, to me.
Especially the way she had no problem going after him and jumping in his face. Like she knew him and was familiar with what he would and wouldn't do.
What about the poor dog?
I've experienced some major road rage (I live in a major city/metro area), but the two worst examples were on I-95 near Baltimore (lady almost wrecked her car with a little kid on the backseat while screaming at us, she ultimately almost clipped an 18 wheeler), and a stalker on I-70 in the mountains of Colorado (he kept getting off the roadway and coming back up, trying to wave us onward up to him, but the Sheriff put a BOLO/APB out on him). Just stay cool, and think the situation through, you can handle it at various levels without needing to directly engage. Also, think of your family first. My Old Man taught me many different ways to handle various situations, and he grew up tougher than anyone I know, but he's also smart, and he's lived to a ripe old age, so I know that the proof of his ways is a wisdom I must learn.
Totally agree with you John, de-escalation IF POSSIBLE. Thing I've noticed is when I was young, if there was an issue like this you might hear some f-this, f-that, middle finger and both would drive off. Now, I've noticed the "perceived offended" person won't let it go. They'll follow you all over the place, cut in front of you to block you and make you exit your vehicle to fight, sometimes they try to run you off the road. People don't let it go anymore, they're itching for a fight, that never happened when I was young, just didn't escalate.
Also, a recommendation is to pull into a police station (if you happen to be lucky enough to pass one that is) or call the police. I have numerous employees/friends/acquaintances and such who have tried this, they all tell me the police never show up, they don't seem to care, it's not a priority. Police nowadays give priority to an LGBTQ+ person who has received a perceived insult or as they call it "hate speech" directed towards them. That WILL have the police show up super fast. Basic law & order issues are not a priority to police departments today.
Road rage is much harder to deal with today, you get some crazy guy on your tail who's itching for a fight, police don't care to respond you're on your own.
You think the cops are diverting emergency services towards combating hate speech? You're told that they dont respond to calls about being followed and fearing for your life but they ARE doing something about hate speech? IF THEY CANT PROTECT A RANDOM CITIZEN FROM A LEGITIMATE CALL THEN THEYRE DOING SHIT ALL ABOUT HATE SPEECH YOU DONUT. They're too busy oppressing the public for revenue and circlejerking eachother as heaven sent sheepdogs to give a fuck about the lgbtq community getting hate speech, I know, cause I get death threats and told to kill myself almost daily and the cops won't do shit about it 😂 quit lying and do some critical thinking. The cops aren't your friends in the first place, they want to hem you up on anything they can stick so they can shuffle you into their for profit prison systems and make out on the backs of the disenfranchised and exploited
What would’ve happened if the guy from the blue car went behind his car as he was backing up and also pulled out a gun and shot the truck guy?
OMG a woman and their little doggie is there and it's time to run into a potential deadly situation and then the dude in the pick up know's he is carrying a gun and still drives the guy down knowing there is a woman and little doggie.. Nobodys ego should ever be this stupid and she could use some training on how not to act when a gun is pointed at you.
Pleasant Grove utah right off the I 15. It's not at all out of the ordinary for most people in utah to have a gun. Also when the Mormons forget to take the sacrament they can get a little feisty
This looks like provo utah area, maybe Orem. Those are definitely the Wasatch mountains.
Boyfriend just saved that girls life and she doesn't realize it
Not only that she was likely still amped up the whole way home calling her man a punk & whatever else for grabbing her instead of going after the guy with the gun.
Hopefully once home she calmed down & realized if she continued doing what she was doing she almost certainly would have gotten her & possibly her man shot. If she doesn't realize that I hope homeboy leaves her, cause a girl like that can get you in all sorts of trouble.
The dude with the gun does not need to own a gun. He instigated that entire situation .
he shouldn't be able to drive either.
That’s unmistakably Utah Valley. Probably American Fork area. That’s the Wasatch Front mountain range, Provo Peak, Squaw Peak, Y Mountain. I’ve climbed all of those.
I climbed them all 2x.
Yep, Pleasant Grove actually.
If the guy with a gun keeps using his gun as an intimidation factor like that he’s eventually going to do it to someone who’s actually willing to use theirs
For most people carrying a fire arm, a conflict is the last thing they want to happen. With this guy however, we will probably be re-visiting with him down the road on youtube.
Women who don’t understand the threat of violence can likely lead to you losing your life - pick your partners wisely. Glad the unarmed guy didn’t lose his life
That's why they should not let people carry gun. There's to many people thinks because they got a gun are bad ass
I feel bad for the dog to have pet owners like THAT! That girl has major issues, to push someone who has a gun pointed at her.