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Converts Debate: Christianity vs. Islam - Qureshi vs. Williams - 01 - Opening Statements
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2009
- Converts Debate: Islam vs. Christianity
Dr. Nabeel Qureshi vs. Paul Williams
Opening Statements
London, England
July 11th, 2009
But Nabeel was never a Muslim. He was a Qadiani which is a different faith!
I'v converted to Islam as well. May Allah bless brother Williams!
They created own allAh, if u check Bible,ull know what’s the Justice, Every word Explain as well.God see only inside heart, HES DIE FOR US, HES ONLY ONE HOLY PERSON,HES THE WAY AND HES ALPHA AND OMEGA.,Blind way will fell to 🔥.
Exactly. I am Muslim too. Prophet Muhammad SAW was the last prophet. Stay away from false prophet brothers and sisters...
Brother Nabeel is a very smart person and a humble guy .keep it up Nabeel, we will always pray for you and to your family.GOD BLESS!
I thought that Nabeel used better sources to prove his point instead of using others ideas to come to a conclusion. I also don't understand how christians on here can comment so rudely on others religion. It's all about love. Pissing off muslims doesn't cause conversion it causes war.
In case you're not aware, your Koran insults Christians in multiple verses. For example Koran 9:29 says that you Muslims are to kill non believers BASED solely on the fact that non believers DO NOT believe in Islam. Also, koran 98:6 says that Christians are the WORST of all creatures.
So, I hope you can understand now why Christians despise Islam.
GOD BLESS YOU DEAR NABEEL QURESHI AMEN.
G-D Rest your soul Nabeel Qureshi. May HE sustain your spirit for the zeal of "The Truth, The Light and Eternal Life". G-D truly works in mystifing ways. Never did i imagine, a former Muslim, in reinforcing my Strength in Faith of Thy Lord Jesus Christ, the way you did. Many NDE's have come back with the need to finish their meaning/ work/destiny in this world. To Chritianity, "you must certainly accomplished your Destiny here" and now " You Are in thee much deserved paradise of Heaven". You truly were and shall remain, a Blessing to this World.
This is such a brilliant idea!!! Converts who "traded" positions, to discuss the beliefs they eventually arrived at os something i want to see more of!
Nabeel totally won his point.
هو تكلم جيد جداً
no he did not....he makes absolutely no sense.
@@Logia1978 well u never read the old testament because clearly islam violates all the rules god gave originally . Christianity is the true religion
@@ShamounianExplains
In your dream only...
@@Logia1978 so you’re literally admitting Gods Original word means nothing to you . Point proven Islam is false religion. Christianity still follows the original commandments . Why does Islam have a stone to worship Allah when it says in the commandments not to make any idols or stones of him? Makes 0 sense .
Live by your delusions Yahweh is the only true God and Yeshua was his only Son
@@ShamounianExplains
Lots of assumptions...
First you don't have the original words of God...
Then Christianity rejected the most important and the very first commandment according to Jesus..
Hear o Israel the lord your God is One and not a man made trinity....
Anything you bring after this is completely worthless....
Nabeel made a huge mistake in his opening statement.
When Moses was first approached by God by the burning bush, Moses was definitely scared, he denied that it was even God and he also rejected God's offer in order to free the Israelite slaves from Egypt, as the burden was too heavy for him (Which is why God made his brother Aaron do the talking, since Moses had a speech impediment, and also made Aaron do the miracles *turning the staff into snake was Aaron*, did God make a mistake and choose the wrong man for prophethood?).
So I ask Nabeel, would any true prophet reject God's offer, would any prophet be shaken and scared to death and deny God's presence? Would God have to choose that prophets brother to do miracles because the prophet thought it was too difficult? Well, because Moses did.
Typical fucking moron... God uses weak people. So he should use YOU!
actually your comment is deceiving...It says Moses was afraid to look upon GOD and he never denied that it was GOD prove it with the bible. Yes he tried to evade the task that GOD gave him because Moses didn't believe in himself so that's why GOD helped Moses with Aaron, but GOD knew the potential of Moses and later on we see Moses leading the people of Israel and we see Aaron making a golden calf and etc. so ultimately Moses surpassed his weakness. So yeah nice try but your comment was inaccurate.
Sahih al-Bukhari, volume 4, Book 54, Hadith number 429
The prophet was told to pray 50 times a day, and requested of God to keep making it less, until it became 5 times a day.
If the prophet was one who subjects to the will of God without requesting less then all those in Islam should be praying 50 times a day.
Christian admit that Gods requests are not always easy, and even Jesus Christ prayed to God to not go through with the suffering, yet his will be done.
I would rather talk to God in a coherent manner than in recitations o repetitive words. That God tells Muhammed to repeat prayers so many times a whatever this God did not say to ANYONE in the Bible.
sha1017906 a real christian prays, talks and has an ongoing 24/7 relationship with God at all times of the day, the thing that you think about most all day, not just at certain times.
We love you Muslims, we will pray for you so you will see the True Light, Yehshua, and accept Him for you real salvation. Peace be unto you.
Thanks for the kind feelings, but you're the ones who have to review your principles of faiths, I am saddened about how the kind people who die christian are still destined to hellfire, but blaspheming god is the only unforgivable sin, may allah grant all of you guidance
@@Omartabyaoui if God provided no atonement for sin, how is He just ? Without the death of His son, there would be no atonement for sin. He was the sacrificial lamb of the world. Christ preached about peace with a few verses about grabbing the sword, while Muhammad preached about murdering infidels, and beating women into submission. I don’t understand how people say the Bible has been mistranslated and corrupted over time when Muhammad was illiterate.
@@elmonomon
nonsense...
@Crisanto Ballen here is my favorite one from christianity: god sent his son who is also himself to become a baby and have his creation breastfeed him and change his nappies when he defecates, so that he then gets killed by his own creation in a humiliating way that was somehow enough to atone for all the rape, killing torture and other atrocities that happened in the world from that point on. And the only way to paradise is to worship the simbole on wich he was killed.
Truelly amazing.
@@elmonomon just rethink about no atonement without blood, and you talk about justice, also if thats what you think about muhamad peac be upon him you simply havent read his biography, also, its not just us tgat say the bible is corrupted, its your own christian scholars, if you woukd just do a bit of research from authentic sources instead of blindly listening to you priests, maybe you will be guided to the truth.
This video is old so I hope a skeptical Muslim sees this message. He brings up Mark 13 and Mathew 24 and says, “we are immediately told that the end of the world will happen”. That is not what those passages say. It is a question posed by the disciples, Jesus did not affirm such a thing. This is a terrible misreading of these passages. It’s not even a misinterpretation. It’s just flat out a blind reading. Did he tell you that Jesus didn’t say anything eschatological in that passage? On the contrary, he said He does and that is simply not true. Don’t get caught up in his accent to think that He’s smart. That can happen. Truth is in Christ. He loves men and women equally and all that is required is believing in Him. Repenting of your sins, that means to have a remorse for your sins which causes you to turn away from them. This has to be true in your heart. Now, what does Allah require of you? Dress this way, pray this way, this many times, in this many ways. You’re gambling your soul on what you do? What happens when you make a mistake? Do you feel so guilty that you become radicalized?
i need advice a few months ago i started looking into religion Christianity and i was reading the new testament and i noticed inconsistency and a bunch of contradictions and that there is no original ancient manuscript of the new testament only a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy when i realized this that i started reading the quran and reading on the prophet muhammad peace be upon him and im still confused can any one help me
Hope u r a muslim now
Allah bless you Dear William. May Allah increase your knowledge. Aamiin
It NEVER fails. Critique Christianity, which is subjective, but never give a convincing argument for their ascribed religion. Furthermore, I am skeptical of people who make an argument from sources that only critique Jesus. An abundance of such sources at that.
why are people making hateful statements on here? Jesus would not ask you to insult people! Does the Quran or Mohammed say you should talk to another in this way?
Oh Muhammed said a lot of cursed words!! So what the heck are u talking about??
+justame smith huh???
"established at the council of Nicaea in 451 AD"
Nicaea was in 325, over a hundred years earlier. That's a pretty glaring mistake, especially for an opening statement.
i just wonder why muslim debaters always primarily use books written by pholosophers. why don't they use something from divine source like the Holy Bible. or why don't they use the Quran to teach us the truth. it is simply peoples philosophy and ideas that we can get by reading books written by scholars. but if we read the Bible which is the perfect word of God a book which has a divine inspiration
Because if they use Quran they will ultimately caught with errors in it. They use hadiths to explain to defend Qur'an.
not to sound rude but manz was not a born again Christian, that comes from the heart not a sinners prayer
Wasn't Nabeel who claims to be an ex-muslim is an Ahmadi ?
Surely, that concludes that he doesn't know what Islam was as Ahmadi don't even practice Islamic belief nor do they even study Islam. It's a fact.
Interestingly, he goes on to say in his opening speech that he argued over David Wood for an astonishing 4 years about the difference between Islam and Christianity when at first he wasn't even a Muslim.
All lies spouts from his mouth, followed by his pet David Wood.
@@rohan7224
no it is not... Ahmadi are as much islam than Mormons are chirstians...
@Ali Abdullah they don't believe in "another" prophet after Muhammad. They believe that their prophet is a reincarnation of a previous prophet. (and if I remember correctly, Islam teaches that at the very least, Jesus, if not Muhammad and/or others WILL return. Ahmadi Muslims simply believe in the return; they do not believe in a new prophet. So there is no contradiction their. Also, they adhere to the 5 pillars of Islam and they belive in the Qur'an above all else.
You may certainly argue that their theology is wrong, but by Islamic standards, Ahmadi Muslims are still Muslims
@@Logia1978 To be fair, many Christians don't consider Mormonism to be Christianity.
@@nataliejames1964
Muslim do not believe in a new revelation and new prophet.
They dont believe in incarnation either.
According to muslims belief, Jesus himself will come back and will rule with the last revelation the quran.
Mirza Ghulam Ahmed has a new revelation and comes with a new concept, the incarnation...
For same reasons muslim do not accept either Ahmadis or Bahais as muslims....Baha ullah, the founder of bahai faith pretended to be the incarnation of Jesus too... this concept is alien to muslims....
And if the mainstream muslims do not accept them as muslims (sunni, shia)... you will not be able to impose to them your interpretation or ahmadi interpretation...saying Ahmadis are muslims will not change this fact....just as mormons are not christians from the mainstream christianity point of view...
SORRY BUT THAT TEXT YOU QUOTED IS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK MANUSCRIPTS THAT THE NEW TESTAMENT WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN IN. AM I SAYING THIS NO THIS MAN IS bart d ehrman who is a professor of religous studies at the university of north carolina, hill and is a LEADING AUTHORITY ON THE BIBLE AND THE LIFE OF JESUS.
If mohammad is a prophet, then why allah did not speak mohammad face to face? It does not! Unlike in the bible, all prophets were given covenants by God face to face thru direct conversation by thru voice holy spirits speaken. Neverever allah spoken to mohammad, not once!!! He, mohammad only the one who narrated those.
God The Father Almighty bless you N.quershi you are true in every word l feel sorry for those who betrayed Jesus for worldly name and fame change your hearts and follow Jesus and save your souls
AMEN ❤️
As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe.
Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil;
great is the penalty they (incur).
@dingdong890 What different is that from Krishna or Buda. Have considered why do you celebrate on Mithra's birthday?
Qureshi and Wood, together, in one video? Awesome.
nabeel has never been a muslim but he was an ahmadi.
Nabeel and people like you are not seeking the truth unfortunately. Cause if Christianity were the truth, Nabeel, David Wood, Robert Spencer, James Smith and all the evangelical apologists wouldn't need to lie, twist words from their meanings to force a way of explaining the fallacy of the whole christian doctrine which is absolute idolatry and paganism.
+ad hominemus, Can you please show us some of the dishonesty.
Okay.
Lol 😁 don't you know his story and btw the evidence is his Muslim family
Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. (The Noble Quran, 112:1-4)"
Do you remember the part of the debate where they discuss Daniel? Well, in the second chapter of the book of Daniel, Nebuchadnessar sees a "great image" with a "golden head", "silver arms and breasts", "brass belly-thighs", and "iron feet with toes of clay". All of these refer to kingdoms to pass from that time on, and I have the impression that the iron-copper wall has the same type of metaphoric meaning. And anyway, Yajuj and Majuj are not per se perceived as historical personalities.
Amazing opening statement by Paul, and also he has a good sense of humor!
Nabeel Qureshi said that Lord died for us, because of our sin.
My question to Nabeel is;
1. Does Lord dies? if yes, aren't you limiting Him.
2. Did He not create death and the angel of death? ( and only with His permission the angel of death can take the soul from the body and returns back to Him. ) So is Nabeel say that angel of death killed God. and what is the wisdom or logic behind this act.
3. Why does God need to die for our sins if he is the one how forgive our sinful act. Did He not programmed us to perform sinful act and repent. Our sin are inspired the the evil (shitan) that God has create. tought we can control our act by our blessing intellect God gave us. ....
4. What does the bible say about islam? Showly islam is the fast growing religion and bible should have warned christians about islam, if islam is a threat to mankind or a wrong creed.
+Amin Qulatein It was the body of Jesus that died. The word of God never dies. Bible says the word is spirit. God did not die. For it's first 12 years, Islam only had a few hundred believers. It was not until Mohammed had a revelation that his followers would be rewarded for acts of war on behalf of Allah. Koenard Elst in Negationism in India gives an estimate of 80 million Hindus killed in the total jihad against India. The Islamic fighters were rewarded with booty and if they died, Mohammad told them they would get 72 virgins. 3. Why did Jews perform sacrifices in old testament? The Old Testament was a shadow of things that would be fulfilled in the new testament, through Jesus Christ. 4. There are plenty of warnings in the bible about false prophets. John 10:10 says, The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I (Jesus) have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly. 2 Corinthians 11, " For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. In Acts 20, " Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood. I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears. 1 Peter 5:8, Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.
+Amin Qulatein It was the body of Jesus that died. The word of God never dies. Bible says the word is spirit. God did not die. For it's first 12 years, Islam only had a few hundred believers. It was not until Mohammed had a revelation that his followers would be rewarded for acts of war on behalf of Allah. Koenard Elst in Negationism in India gives an estimate of 80 million Hindus killed in the total jihad against India. The Islamic fighters were rewarded with booty and if they died, Mohammad told them they would get 72 virgins. 3. Why did Jews perform sacrifices in old testament? The Old Testament was a shadow of things that would be fulfilled in the new testament, through Jesus Christ. 4. There are plenty of warnings in the bible about false prophets. John 10:10 says, The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I (Jesus) have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly. 2 Corinthians 11, " For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. In Acts 20, " Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood. I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears. 1 Peter 5:8, Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.
Mohammed was not the false prophet, Islam come to look after the affaires of the believers - both muslim and non-Muslim, and both will have different laws that they must abided by under the Islamic government. Muslim had the real Islamic government and now it has been destroy by stupid, naive tyrant rulers in the Muslim lands who don't have a voice, and they don't have ruling understanding as the Muslim in the past did.
Mohammed brought a ruling systems and the religion of Ibrahim back again as it should be - monotheism, we muslim submit to the only one God Ibrahim worshipped.
False prophet is coming and he will claim to be God and demand people to worship him. He will perform magic and illusions. He will have followers and it will not be the Muslims or Christians. His name is called Dajjal. Every prophet was warned about this false prophet and Mohammed was given the full description of who the false prophet is.
Surely Mohammed is not the false prophet.
Amin Qulatein
November 12, 2015 - Twin suicide bombings kill 42 people in the capital city of Beirut. November 13-14, 2015 - Simultaneous terrorist attacks in Paris kill 136, and wound 352. They involved a series of coordinated attacks which consisted of mass shootings and suicide bombings.November 17, 2015 - A suicide attack at a market in Yola killed more than 30 people and hospitalised more than 80. The attack is thought to be the work of Boko Haram. November 18, 2015 - A Jewish history teacher was stabbed in the arm and leg by three Islamists in Marseille. November 18, 2015 - A lone wolf Islamist killed two soldiers and injured civilians. 3 dead 5 wounded. Another Islamic terrorist attack occurred in Mali’s capital of Bamako, where Muslim gunmen attacked a luxury hotel full of foreigners, killing innocents and taking 170 people hostage, reports confirm that the terrorists demanded that hostages recite the Shahada (the Muslim declaration of faith) and that those who were able to do so were allowed to leave the hotel.The terrorists were also shouting “Allahu Akbar”, which media reports perpetually inform us means “God is great” in Arabic. But who is this God? The bible says the thief came to kill, steal and destroy, but Jesus came to give us life. The god (who pretends to be god) of this world is said to be the devil in disguise. See Bible. Though some tried, you cannot force someone to be a Christian. Romans 9 says, “If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Jesus said to choose life or death. Dueteronomy 30:13, Today I am giving you a choice between life and death.
+Amin Qulatein He came as a man and died for a symbolic reason, for lack of a better word at this moment. God can do anything. He is so much more than we as humans are capable of understanding. God can be in many different places at one time. He is not limited as we are. Jesus came to this earth to die for our sins and He went back home. He will return again to judge us for our sins, just as the Bible and the Quran states. Who else, other than God, is capable of judging us?
MR,Nabeell YOU should need more to learn + if u really like to Debate why not u go Debate with Dr Zakir naki,,,,,,,, Could u do that ?
Zakir naik doesn't debate real scholars.
may allah guide us to his path.
+Abdulkarim Ali Do you know that Allah is not god, don't you? You cannot prove that the Koran's allah, is the same as the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! You can't, but I can!
As far as quran as word of god? No proof! There isn't a credible, non Muslim secular Archaeologist that can ever verify its claims!
But even inside the Koran, there is no evidence that the GOD of Abraham ever gave his greeting he gave to Moses: namely GOD always says: I am the GOD of Abraham, the GOD of Isaac, and the GOD of Jacob, GOD never gave the greeting!
I don't know about other gods, but the GOD of Abraham always shows that He is with his prophets, by doing miracles that no one on earth could ever do! GOD set up centers for miracles, like the well, where an angel would heal the 1st one in the pool, or how in all the years in the dessert the Jew's clothing never got old, never tore, and manna from heaven!
That said, Muhammad never had 1 miracle, 0, nada, zilch, nothing from the GOD of Abraham, just to prove that he was with GOD, and that GOD was with him!
Also, The GOD of Abraham commanded Moses to warn HIS people, to not set up an stone throughout the land! Right here:
Leviticus 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.
There are many references to Muhammad facing the Blackstone, raising his hands, kissing it, caressing it, putting his face on it, crying on it, he was a die hard idolater! Idolaters can be hypocrites too, that's why he took the practices of the Hindus of 7 x circum ambulation, and the Blackstone!
Either way, Muhammad broke all the commandments of GOD and led the Arab people into horrid sin!
Look, Muhammad called himself a prophet right, what was Muhammad's prophecy?
Finally, maybe we can agree that the Koran is the word of the moon god?
But not the GOD of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why? All the above reasons shows that these two gods are at war!
The Koran's calls the Jews Decedents of pigs and apes?! Yeah! but Abraham is their Ancestor so you are insulting Abraham by this insult!
For that reason, and for all the other reasons I've listed above, the Koran has nothing to do with the Holy Bible, its two different gods, someone copied a list of names from the bible, but as you read the differences I brought up you will easily see that the Koran, nor the god of the Koran has nothing to do with the GOD of the Holy Bible! I think you know that now!
allah is not god he is SHATAN the enemy of god whose name is YAHWEH
Paul Cladder And that is verified by a consonant construction study, of the name of Messiah, Jesus. Which in all languages translated from Hebrew mean Savior!
But the Islamic rendition of the name reverses the consonants of the name, and accomplishes the attempt at replacing and erasing or reversing the name of Yeshua, the savior!
As we see their evil attempt is the only one in all of History to be so illogical, wicked, stinking in the earth is the horrible Islamic rendition reversing the name of the Savior Jesus the shepherd!
Look at the proper name of Jesus and notice how the false name Isa is discovered to be a reversal of the (Ya) and the (Ain) even contradicting their own language's correct construction of the root name of Yeshua, Jesus!
See here:
Early Hebrew (long form): Yehoshua' = Yod + He + Shin + Waw + 'Ain
Later Hebrew (short form): Yeshua' = Yod + Shin + Waw + 'Ain
Arabic (Christian): Yasu' = [Ya] + [Sin] + Waw + 'Ain
Arabic (Muslim): 'Isa = ['Ain] + [Ya] + Sin + Ya
Therefore, the Muslims whom spoke Arabic lied when they said it was the name of Jesus in Arabic!
Notice then how the name Isa reverses what would be, in the Hebrew root meaning, the Yod + He is in tact in the rest of the original languages, but Islam which does not have an original language discombobulates the Yod He consonant construction.
The Arabic Yod + Shin is a direct translation from the Hebrew original, thus it is correct, but the Muslim Arab destruction of the original hebrew is obviously not associated with any human lanaguage, it simply destroys the name which GOD have for salvation!
Therefore, Islam seeks to destroy both the meaning of the name which was given by heaven, to men under heaven where by men must be saved, and seeks to replace the name!
It does this because it is the cult of the the Antichrist, which seeks only to replace and destroy or reverse the name which heaven gave so that men could be saved, in order to stop the salvation which GOD brought to mankind, by HIS own blood!
This is how opposite Islam is to Christianity, it is Satan's religion, which seeks to reverse GOD's work and effort to save mankind!
Savior to Jews only. All messengers of God are saviors
agmtahir See, u have to look at scripture not make it up yourself! Becoz no verse says "to Jews only" u just said that,& that is a lie!
GOD gave the Law of Moses, it states, among 613 other things, not to make a stone image right here in Leviticus:
Lev 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.
But Islam disobeys this law and sets up the pagan Blackstone, kiss it, caress it, a freakin stone, you idiots!?
Look at how Moses treated Idols when He saw one:
Exodus 32:19 And it came to pass, as soon as he(Moses) came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf, and the dancing: and Moses' anger waxed hot, and he cast the tables out of his hands, and brake them beneath the mount.
Exodus 32:20 And he took the calf which they had made, and burnt it in the fire, and ground it to powder, and strawed it upon the water, and made the children of Israel drink of it.
So, what do you think Moses would do if you you invited Moses to your Kaaba, what do you think he would do to your Kaaba? hahaha, you know what he would do!
You'd have no more Kaaba, and no more Blackstone! It would be a pile of crap after he got done, and we all know it, but some how, you think that Oh GOD will just understand and will not be offended by the fact that you happen to disobey all that GOD commanded mankind to do!?
You're going to hell, and you need to repent Mr. Pagan Muslim!
I haven't blocked anyone yet - I don't intend to block anyone in particular unless i have to
Wtf you had youtube for 11 years?
The hadiths that Nabeel use about Muhammad taking the woman as his wife the same night where can I find it
As a Catholic who studied Apostolic writings and the early Church and it's teachings I could demolish Paul Williams's arguments very he cannot use the early Church to support arguments which could shed light on this subject but he uses scholars with dubious scholarship.
+Anne Outarsingh Absolutely! I was a Muslim and became a Catholic. Not only did the early Church testify to Jesus's deity and the Trinity- BUT it taught that the early Church was Catholic and by default I had to become Catholic and i'm glad I did. God bless you Anne! :)
+Britishguy18 Hey Man, Would be interested to hear your story. I haven't heard of Many Muslims becoming Catholic, more just loving Jesus and really grasping the trinity. The thing is that in Catholicism im not always sure they "eat" the word. Read a book by Witness Lee of The Living Stream Ministry called Christ Vs. Religion and this poses many substantial questions to the way that "The Church" Is not a building or traditional church as seen mainly in the COE and Catholic demoninations. But the "Church" representing the Christians as a whole as the "Building" up of the body of christ to become his bride! When we realise that We don't need the physical things, our relationship with the Lord becomes a constant enjoyment! Praise the Lord for the TRIUNE God!!!! God Bless
If you'd like my story you can privately message me! I actually began researching Christianity through the lense of the more "Evangelical"(if you find that term savvy enough) before even considering Catholicism. And actually my friend told me "I'm worried you won't get you're feed of spirituality and 'win with the spirit' ". I think you are under the same assumption that Catholicism is a 'dry' "I will do this because the Pope said so" type of branch of Christianity. However I have found it even more enhancing in Catholicism than Protestantism. "Eating the word" as you put it- is the most intimate thing our saviour could EVER have done for us as well as being the most astonishing form of 'relationship' with Jesus that anyone could have. And in regards to the Church not being a physical structure. I was actually taught in the begining of my journey of Christianity that the Church is "invisible" instead of "visible" which is what you would vouch for more as I can see as well as the person in regards to the book you recommended me to read. I learnt that scriptural wise- it's an impossible concept to defend and only Catholicism can fufill what scripture actually teaches "AS A WHOLE" instead of "snippets".
Anyways- if you want to hear more we could take this to personal messaging(or skype if you wish) and the dialogue may begin!
Pax Christi(peace in Christ)
Anne Outarsingh call him debate him . if have the balls
Muslims claim islam is universal and want sharia law in european countries saying islam is a universal religion and brings universal law.So please, try to explain me, why quran can only be truly understood in arabic?if it is so universal, why presumably i can't truly understand it when i read it in my own language or in english?and for the record,since islam was born it has been refuting christianity and the core assumption of it.so why are you bothered if NON MUSLIMS do the same thing to islam?
i got a bible here in my home i knew the bible verse number in my head i could of went to the bible and typed word for word but why am i gonna do that when copy and paste exist using c opy and paste doesnt mean that i dont have knowledge of christianity . when i was a christian i read the bible matthew mark luke and john
I do hope that Christians understand that Dan.7:13 is post Millennial, and shall not be fulfilled until some time after The Gog and Magog War and the demise of Satan- Rev 20:10. Dan 7:13 is of that Rev 20:11-15. Daniel revealed that he saw THE END in a night vision. This is the very event that John described in Rev 20 from verse 11 to verse 15 .THE END -WHICH IS A NEW BEGINNING.-Compliments of one of "the babes"
Shalom !!!
Jesus came to this world by the Holy Spirit to save us for our sins, He did not have to do that but He did it because He love us, by sheeting his blood on the cross, took our transgressions and sickness upon Him, now if we repent and call upon de name of the Lord we can be saved. Thank you Jesus for coming into this world
No he didnt die, he's alive andd well vy the side of the father and waiting to come back and establish that only the father is the true god
@@Omartabyaoui they’re both God in one .
paul said ''i say and not THE LORD'' meaning not god, all the serious biblical scholars of the world are unanimous about 2 peter: it was not written by peter and it was written between 90AD and 150AD. peter was already dead, secondly the 2 peter was the last book to be added in the bible.
but even if you are right, you said paul was talking about jesus(pbuh) but since jesus is god in your belief that means paul was not speaking under god authority since he said '' I and not God say''.
Muhammad allegedly claimed that prophets do not have any heirs, and therefore are not obligated to make a will since their property is to be given in charity. Evidently, muhammad had forgotten the following quranic verses: 19:2-7 and 27:15-16.
Anyone was Paul's statement of Faith Islamic ?
John 7:53 - 8:11 …….. is omitted from some of the
later versions of the New Testament.
§ It is omitted ……. or appears only in footnotes
because the earliest manuscripts do not have John
7:53 - 8:11.
§ For instance …… the NIV states in brackets that
“The earliest and most reliable manuscripts do not
have John 7:53-8:11.”
John 5:
43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: FOR HE WROTE OF ME.
To sum up what he said in the beginning: he does not fully reject Christianity.
What Christians do: fully reject Islam.
Logic: centuries after Christianity - Islam: “I like this part, this part and this part, but not this part”.
Give a reason someone should follow the precepts of Islam without saying that the Bible is missing a comma in John such and such. Conceptually, how is one saved in Islam? What exactly do you have to do to be saved in this religion? The minute you say that something physically has to be done daily, you’ve stepped into the most confusing part of religion.
And remind me again, what is paradise in the afterlife for a Muslim? If men get virgins what happens to the women?
@321superdino Edgar Rice Burroughs has 11 books that postulate that there is life with technology on Mars, he also has 7 books that postulate that the earth is like an egg with people living on the outside, us and people living on the inside with a small gravitational compression sun in the center. ALL the books state, in the first chapter that what is contained is the truth and that stories did really happen. So what does that say about books?
I didn't know Nabeel was an apologist, but he's very good. What's he up to now? I don't see him on ABN or Acts 17 anymore. Paul William's; not an apologist per se, is also a good speaker and an all-round good egg, although I don't share his theological views.
Sad that Anglican bishop's are criticising The Trinity and Christ's divinity, and just shows how the C of E is running head-long into decapitating its reputation and respect as a church in the UK, indeed the world.
because he lied to them, he said that he is still following the law!
but when we read his letters we can see that he lied.
For those who think that Quereshi was once Muslim, that's utter lie. This guy is from a Muslim heretic community. He was not a Muslim actually. He knew very little Islamic literature. No wonder why converts to Christianity.
Matthew 5:
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 6:
14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
after watching this I was disappointed in Paul's arguments.. he's a huge critic of scriptures that claim Jesus isn't God, however I have not heard one verse from his argument that says Jesus is just a prophet or servant..
John 17:3 Acts 2:22 John 6:38 - It's clear Jesus was a prophet. Jesus never said claimed to be God.
Nabeel you are amazing
Paul was not saying this was not from God since he used the word Lord which refers to jesus and not the word God. Which means that Jesus did not address marriage while he was on earth
So nabeel qurashi who was an Ahmadiya muslim who rejected the classical islamic scholars such as bukhari imam ahmed etc. But now he uses the to tey to prove his case so guys dont buy it when he says i was a muslim
You can say the thing about Williams.
domenic dorio True
Sorry that argument falls flat on its face all that Nabeel said is the truth and from his heart.
So you can see into his heart? Congratulations i guess you are a fortuneteller
+justame smith Nabeel is getting notoriety. Nabeel is a clever man and saw that he is wasted on Muslims but if he can create a buzz around him the spin off is fame and fortune. Don't believe me buy his book and more will follow. Nabeel tapped into a 3 billion custom market. Nabeel is following in his Ahmadiya entrepreneurship carvig neiches for themselves. They will sell their own mother to get the cash flowing and that plus more is what Nabeel has doone. Contrast Paul, who is not getting a dime doing it for his heart felt convictions, with Nabeel
@dingdong890 From Albokhari alone you will come to conclude that Aisha was between the age of 13 - 20. Meaning
1- She was five years older than Fatima the daughter of the prophet
2- She was in the medic team in Badar.
3- She witnessed one of the revelations in Macca.
4- She was ten years younger than her eldest sister
5- She became a Muslim before Omar Ibn Alkhatab.
IF you are a schooler studying the science of hadiths you will come to find out this story can not be taken as 100% the truth.
I mean, the fact that it is know that Yajuj and Majuj are going to return, means that they were not persons who lived at that specific time, or they are beings not bound to aging (non-human, perhaps jinn) and that also this wall would not have been a physical one. There are many ways to go about this issue I think.
Allahu Alam.
Umm how do you know Jesus didn't pay taxes? And Jesus was not a fisherman so even if you are right he would not pay taxes even though he sent Peter to pay tax for him and Peter. The verse you are referring to is John 7:53-8:11 which was added by Christians scribes when they were copying the gospel of John. Please study the trinity before you talk about it
This is wild. This letter is one the the Catholics like to refer when talking about papal infallibility, based on the fact that Paul is so filled with the Holly Spirit that they need a pope and wanted to withhold the Bible, or even the writings of Paul, from the mass of Christians, on the ground of the difficulty of understanding the Scriptures, Because ppl were misunderstanding Paul or deliberately misusing Paul's epistles
Nabeel has had his own ministry for a while - see creed26(dot)com or the YT channel Creed26Ministries
But apparently he has just recently joined Ravi Zacharias International Ministries.
There are other translations that go:
2:62 Those who believe(in the Qur'an, and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."
But it means the same thing, just translated differently, for the better or the worse.
Show me your translation in English, because I presume its there ur misunderstanding is found.
Mashallah brother paul, you did really well
What are you talking about Jesus words appear only in 2 pages?
@goldenageback
you need to understand that i am talking about the massage not people. teachings of the Bible comparing to teaching of Quran. Life of Muhammad comparing to Jesus. Other people can have any kind of understanding or use any religion as a weapon to become powerful. So lets talk about the massage of Christianity and Islam, not how Christians and Muslims act.
Trinity is NOT in the Bible, Jesus was NOT a christian he was a practising Jew till death, Jesus was tempted by Satan...God being Tempted...Really??? Why would Satan Promise Jesus/God that he would give him all that God didn't want to give him?? Why would satan try to tempt Jesus...Because he knows (the fallen angel) that Jesus is NOT God? Father why have u forsaken me...Jesus said on the Cross...Did Jesus Forsaken himself or was he putting up an act??
John smith JESUS CHRIST SAID HE IS THE FIRST AND THE LAST AND THE ALMIGHTY.
BIBLE-REVELATION 1:8.
see my page on the internet on"HERE ARE SOME OF THE REASONS WHY CHRISTIANS BELIEVED THAT JESUS CHRIST IS GOD.THERE...BY DELILAH ROSE SILVANUS."
i give MORE than 200 verses from the Bible.
Johnny TwoShoes Muslims do not know what's the difference between a dream and a vision. which part of the Book of Revelation said John had a dream???
Why didn't the disciples of jesus read his letter? Why did Peter then say that paul's letters are from God if he was not following the Law like Peter was nice try
A lot of shallow reading of the Bible on the part of Williams...Nabeel you are doing a great job HaleluYah
Thats a really weak counter from paul. I dont think he actually can debate
@bangkitasal
Jesus didn't say "Worship me", because it is not sense of life to worship anybody.
Jesus didn't demand to fall down on your face, because praying means to use the COSMIC LAW OF ATTRACTION:
Mark 11:
24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE THEM, and ye shall have them.
25 And when ye stand praying, FORGIVE, IF YE HAVE OUGHT AGAINST ANY: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.
Satan actually said to fall down and worship him. Doesn't seem like something Jesus would say after that now does it? Just throwing that point in there also.
Yes. The words of Jesus (pbuh) appears in just 2 pages of entire NT from the Bible all put together. There is all references from Mark, Mathew, Luke, John, Peter and so on. If you believe in Jesus Christ (pbuh) then why dont you get all words said directly from him. Why do we need 3rd party to give references. The Holy Quran is not what Prophet Muhammad (saw) said but its words from Allah(swt) through Angel Gabriel (Jibrail). Hope you understand.
Looking the comments remind me of a meme ,the meme was" two men were debating,. The scholar ,PhD, guy who had lots of knowledge and done research studies was standing and looking at his opponent angrily. Whereas the other guy who just watched a consipacy theory in utube was screaming and shouting .'"🤣🤣🤣🤣 similarly all the commenters are like this who think they are better than scholars, because they watched a utube video without any research. Btw Jesus is the only way to the Father ,he is the truth ,the way and the life . No other person or god is..
I thought you had a brain from the first part of your comment, then you said jesus is god, disapointed :/
I don't see where you're going with this argument. I'll just point out that you are mistaken in your first claim about faith not fact based. Please reply with an elaboration to what you said because your quote doesnt serve to add to your some-what obscure point.
i am surprised this guy is still alive
God, Can these two abrahamic religious cults (Islam and Christianity) ever get along ? Well, i don't think so. This is what happens when religious cults are not built around a credible philosophy or laws of nature. This is what happens when religious cults are created for separate identity, power and politics. The difference between religious cults which were not built around a credible philosophy and religion (only one) which was built around laws of nature like Hinduism is
According to Islam and Christianity only Jesus or Muhammad can have divine experience
but according to Hindu/vedic philosophy, anyone can have the divine experience which is very much in sync with laws of nature or science or quantum physics. It is the reason why every quantum physicist from Erwin Schrodinger (father of quantum physics) to Albert Einstein wanted to be cremated like Hindus. All these christian/Jewish born western scientists from Copernicus to Einstein took all the theories of laws of nature from Vedic philosophies of India which they had access during colonial times since 16th century. Otherwise, how the hell can they write theories of Quantum physics without consciousness philosophy which the west has been lacking since 5500 BC (Before this period, pretty much whole world was under Hindu/vedic wisdom). Did some one say that the universe was created in 4004 BC? lol
No wonder quantum physicists say that quantum physics does not make sense. Well, if you blindly copy Hindu/vedic philosophies or laws of nature or so called quantum theories which were discovered with higher levels of consciousness by Hindu/vedic maharishis or sages of India- of course it is not going to make sense. Double slit experiment proves that all the quantum theories were copied by so called geniuses from Erwin Schrodinger to Albert Einstein. Copernicus and Newton also got all their laws of motion, gravitation and astronomical findings from Hindu/vedic texts. Kepler also got all his laws of planetary motion from Hindu/vedic texts. Sanskrit hymns of Rig Veda and other vedic texts, reveal all these laws of nature and astronomical findings.
Calculus also came from Hindu civilization (present day India).Only in 2007 British mathematicians reluctantly admitted that it was Jesuit missionaries to India who copied it from "Kerala school of astronomy and mathematics" (South India) and passed it to Newton. Apple did not fall on Newton. Vedic texts fell on his head through Jesuit missionaries of 16/17th centuries. Just validating laws of nature taken from Hindu/vedic texts with mathematics is totally different from discovering them. Western scientists just validated it after copying them. Modern day generations with pea sized brains and superficial levels of consciousness don't have the wisdom to perceive this.
Islam and Christianity killed more people in the last 1500 yrs than Hinduism in its 40,000 yrs history. It is going to continue. Hindus on other other hand without making much noise and spending 10$ are able to spread yoga and meditation (from transcendental meditation to Lucid dreaming (called as Yoga nidra in India) to the west. 100 million people are practicing Hindu yoga and meditation in the world.
Slowly more and more westerners want to be cremated nowadays like Hindus of India since it is very much in sync with nature and a must for rebirth. Well, welcome back to Hinduism, western descendants of Hindu vedic people who ruled the whole world before 5500 BC with their wisdom and higher levels of consciousness.
The word Scandinavia is a combination of Hindu divine language Sanskrit words - Skanda (Son of Hindu god shiva) and Navia (naval settlement). There u go, I've given a small Etymological evidence regarding the Hindu/vedic past of Scandinavian countries of Europe. More evidences are there in the form of Genetic, Archaeological and Vedic puranas (History).
Famous German airliner Lufthansa - combination of Hindu divine language Sanskrit words - Lupt and hansa meaning a "rare bird to see"
Since Christianity took over Europe by force from European Celts between 300 AD to 400 AD, it had been dark ages for Europe until the invasion of Hindu civilization (World's richest civilization and largest economy) in the 17th century - It should say a lot about your Christian cult. I am not defending Islam here, Both Islam and Judeo/Christian faiths were not built around a credible philosophy. This endless bickering between Abrahamic religions has caused enough death and destruction in this world in the past 2000 yrs.
Modern day people must understand that Science neither came from Abrahamic religious cults (Islam and Judeo/Christianity) without a credible philosophy nor from intuitions of people who followed the Christian and Islamic faiths. Science also did not come from the west/middle east before abrahamic religious cults existed. It also proves that so called stone worshipers or Pagans only had a diluted or distorted Hindu/vedic philosophy
Stephen Knapp . Advancements of Ancient India's Vedic Culture: The Planet's Earliest Civilization and How it Influenced the World (p. 54). Vedic Friends Association.
This development Mathematics and Science took much time and imagination, and a great ability for abstract thinking. The one thing that made this possible was that it came from an atmosphere within the Hindu/Vedic civilization (Present day India) that provided for much mystical, philosophical, cosmological, and metaphysical appreciation. The point is that, as with Sanskrit (Hindu divine language), the study of numbers and mathematical research was developed with a combination or along side the metaphysical and spiritual insights and realizations of the time. This provided for the broad-mindedness that was necessary to evolve the developments for which India became known. They were not restricted by any narrow view of the world or particular cosmology or spiritual identity (Judaism/Christianity/Islam/Pagan with distorted/diluted Hindu/vedic philosophy) that limited much of the rest of the planet.
Immediately some doubting Thomas would ask what about ancient Greeks?
Well, Ancient Greeks studied in Hindu civilization (present day India). There u go, now we know the source of Greek's knowledge on philosophy and science.
Godfrey Higgins in his book "Celtic Druids" on Ancient Greeks
"Without the connection with India, Greece may not have been a major contributor to the advancement of Europe. Godfrey Higgins writes in his book The Celtic Druids (p. 112), "In science the Greeks were pygmies. What would they have known of science if their Platos and Pythagorases had not traveled to Hindu civilization (present day India)! In science and real learning Greeks were inferior to the Hindus (Indians), and were the greatest liars upon earth. They willfully mis-stated everything or they foolishly confounded everything."
Jeffrey Armstrong (Vedic Academy of Science and Arts)
It is well known that Greek advancements in knowledge have affected our world for a couple thousand years. Socrates, the famous Greek philosopher, was the teacher of Plato. Socrates of course claims to have been enlightened by the teachings of Pythagoras who preceded him by 200 years. It is also historically known and should be remembered that Pythagoras studied in India; he was a vegetarian, virtually unheard of anywhere else, and learned the philosophy and science of India and taught them in Greece.
So if we are to accept the well-known saying in academia that western philosophy is simply footnotes to Plato, it is then logical to say that the knowledge of India has been leaking into our culture for thousands of years. That this is not understood is a shame because it’s both extremely exciting and a huge aspect of our human heritage. The Abrahamic religions, however, especially Islam and Christianity, have been very resistant to this idea because of their own institutional agendas. So knowledge from India that leaked in to other cultures has often remained either hidden or was simply incorporated into western thought without credit to India.
Erwin Schrodinger's (German Quantum physicist) biographer Moore, wrote -- “His system - or that of the Upanishads (Vedas) - is delightful and consistent: the self and the world are one and they are all. He rejected traditional western religious beliefs (Jewish, Christian, and Islamic) not on the basis of any reasoned argument, nor even with an expression of emotional antipathy, for he loved to use religious expressions and metaphors, but simply by saying that they are naïve--and will NOT understand Quantum theory and consciousness.
Hinduism or Sanatana Dharma (Eternal Laws of Nature) was built around laws of nature. Cremation is very much in sync with laws of nature, laws of Karma (Karma is ancient Hindu science of cause and effect) and re-incarnation
if u were a real christian instead of wasting ur time arguing wit me over if i was or wasnt a true christian you should be trying to spread the gospel of christ to the 4 corners of the earth or try to convert me back to christianity if you can but ther are to much scientific miricales in the quran the last testament of God the mention scientific phenomenon 1400 years ago which are being confirmed now by science and that stand out as the word of the true and only God that should be worshipped
Just look at these two people. Who would you guess knows more and has more experience? Enough said, thats the right path then.
Qureshi disproved most of the statements before Williams presented them.
such as?
wachm3 Such as Jesus claimed to be God and it was already disproved.
@TheSaffyone ok so ur relying on hadiths now, which all were written around 2 hundred years after the prophet, which places them like near 9 th centry in 850 - 900 bc and the quran was finalised in 8 th century, in 715 bc
Zillaroo, This is a DEBATE all its on=Islam" is derived from the arabic root (SALAM) which can mean either "peace" or "submission." Indeed, the proper meaning of "Islam" is the attainment of peace, both inner and outer peace, by submission of oneself to the Will of God! Also The pooh pooh =Book of Purification,Kitab Al-Taharah Bk 2 no. 429 The money should be urine and other impurities, if obtained in the mosque.
paul said ''i say not THE LORD'' (it's his own opinion which is not from god).
now are you saying that jesus(pbuh) is not god?
but still you have made a claim so back it with evidence, you said peter said that paul's letters are from god! show me where ! because the majority of biblical scholars say that paul did not know that his letters will be considered as god's words. and i shown you an example of paul giving his opinion and saying that it's not what the lord said in the torah.
One can always find apologists willing to dismiss the harsh rhetoric of the Quran with creative interpretation, tortuous explanation or outright denial, but their words and deeds almost always belie a concern for Islam's image that does not extend to Islam's victims - at least not with the same sense of urgency - thus proving the point.
Of course, there are also exceptional Muslims who do not agree with Islamic supremacy and sincerely champion secularism and respect for all people. Some even fi
Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him. If you abide in my word, you are my disciple indeed. And you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free. Isaiah 53 A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we hid, as if were our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him, Surely He has borne our grief's and carried our sorrows; Yet we esteemed Him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted, but He was wounded for our transgressions. (all to saved us, because He loved us)
Why do Muslims always try to find evidence that proves that the Christians are wrong when saying that Jesus is Gods son; that He was crusified etc? If discussions concerning islam and christianity were about a human relationship, it was as if the newly wedded husbond spent ALL his time, not telling how wonderful his wife was, but why he did not choose his former girlfriend! Why do not muslims tell more about their Prophet and Allah in these discussions? Is there nothing til "talk about"?
and who are these caliphs and ppl who came after mohammed who gathered so many verses of the qur'an which is highly disputed on what should and shouldn't be in it. So who are these ppl who put all of "mohammeds teachings" together. how can we trust them. and so they copied from mo who had visions. and they in turn had to have their qur'ans copied and copied until present day.
All muslims are christians because the basic of christianity is
1) Jesus is holy son of God (sura19;19)
2) Jesus is crucified....quran says allah made it appear
3) Risening of Jesus is the most basic ideology of christianity , quran affirms that by saying Jesus is lifted by allah
4) Jesus will be coming back, quran also confirms that
5) muslims are praying like what Jesus did
6) muslim women are dressing like what Jesus's mom Mary did
so only one conclusion, all muslims are christians
@dingdong890 It is true, a Muslim cannot insult Christ or his mother. I love them both, as Christ is the one who is coming back to raise Islam.
You are waiting for the Anti-Christ, the one who is claiming to be god.
We are waiting for the real prophet Christ who came to restore god's rules.
I repeat again, I did not mean to insult Christ or Virgin Marry, Virgin marry always has been a virgin and died a virgin, never married a man.
They seem, to me, to have switched debates and are arguing the opposite persons case. Just a theory by the way I hear them speak.
Read it over and over you will get it .If you still find my point 'obscure' then I know it was well worded . those who belong to us will have no problem.
Paul is the big culprit behind creating a religion without following what Jesus (pbuh) taught. Paul didnt want to accept Hanifa which was practise by Abraham (as) and Jesus (pbuh). Well I do have KJV bible of 742 pages where words of Jesus (pbuh) appears only in 2 pages put together in NT. LOGIC IS QURAN and not BIBLE.
I showed you twice already please read what im writting 2 Peter 3:15 Says Paul's letters comes from God second of all once again i said God used the opinion of Paul to write about it. Once again paul is referring to Jesus ministry jesus while he was on earth did not speak about marriage in detail
May God bless every Muslim friend. Whenever I read the Koran, I can't read it any further because there are loopholes everywhere, like a middle school student who reads a book and plagiarizes it and writes a review. The angels don’t know how to name all things, even the angels worshiped Adam, and then the angels revealed to Muhammad, then they don’t even know how to reveal the names of all things to Muhammad, Muhammad was revealed for decades, then they Is it short-sighted? No bystanders to witness? Did Muhammad then call the angels Lord and worship the angels? Did the angels worship Adam again? Then the angel said that you allow your people to marry four wives, but can you marry more than twenty wives yourself? Would a holy God make fornication a law? There are so many questions in almost every chapter of the Koran.
what has that got to do with Qaidiani not Muslims. If i did call them Christians my mistake. I would need to be educated as to what make a Christian a Christian. Knowing this will put me in a position to make a better judgement :)
Lol once again then why did the disciples of Jesus accept paul? Peter who was a disciple of jesus says about Paul 2 Peter 3:15 And regard the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as also our dear brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him" If Paul created a religion without following what Jesus taught why are the people following what Jesus taught calling him a Brother and saying what he teaches has wisdom?
@WillSamuelson islam doesnt deny that Jesus is god's messenger.
Acts 4:12
Exodus 8:19 "the Magicians said to Pharaoh , "This is the finger of God" ( what brought ten plagues on Egypt, was God Himself) Exodus 31:18 "When the Lord finished speaking to Moses on Mt. Sinai, he gave him the two tablets of the Testimony, the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God" Luke 11:20 "But If I drive out demons by the finger of God, then the Kingdom of God has come to you" Are the Muslims arguing that God's Finger is not God ? Jesus Christ is the Finger of God
@dingdong890 Do you really believe God will have to die to forgive our sins. He has the power to without being a man. Besides God told us in Quran, God is not a creation and nothing is comparable to him. Also it is forbidden in your bible to put an image of God. Christ is an image of God in the mind of Christians, that's where things gone wrong.
Can you explain to me, why christians made an image of God?
Do resurrected bodies ate boil fish n honicorns?
@abdibaasit Convert or burn? Worship or torture? Submit or suffer? That's what it's all about at the end of the day, isn't it?
Don't Muslims believe Jesus was crucified too? But he was beamed up to God just before he died or something.
That's what my mother believes anyway...
the reason why there is so much evidence that jesus (phub) died on the cross because it appeared as such. in the qur'an it says, jesus was raised to heaven alive and it only appeared that the was crucified, which is the reason why so many people say that he died, because in their perspective, it looked like he did. and about muhammad and aisha, in that time peoiple died around age 40 so it was a cultural norm for women to consummate as son as they hit menstruation, which could have happened at 9
GBU bro and sis Today let's study about THE lesson from the fig tree .....The Bible is the book testifying about Christ (5:39)...Among many testimonies about Christ,let us find out about Jesus comes a second time... Matthew 24;32_33""..Now learn this lesson from the fig tree...."". Through this prophecy we can know the time when Jesus comes a second time.The fig tree stands for Iseral... Jesus gave us a real lesson about the fig tree... Mattew 11:12_14. Jesus cursed the fig tree ,when He found no fruit because it was not the season for figs. Maytew11:20_21.. the fig tree withered from the roots...why did Jesus curse the fig tree that no fruit?? By withering the fig tree with no fruit..Jesus showed that Israel which rejected Him would be destroyed...Another parable of the fig tree tells the same thing...Luke 13:6_9""...For three years now I have been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and have not found any Cut it down.....". By telling them to cut down the fig tree without friut Jesus prophesized that the Israelites,who rejected Him until the end and hindered the gospel work would ultimately be destroyed... Jesus also directly prophesied about the fall of Israel...Luke 22:20_24...""When you see JERUSELEM bring surrounded by armies .you will know that it's desolation is near..."". According to this prophecy .in AD . 70.Israel was miserably destroyed by the Roman army led by by Titus.In this way .the fig tree completely withered..How ever Jesus also prophesized that Israel would be restored at its appointed time.. Luke 21:24..""JERUSELEM will be trampled on by the Gentiles untill the time of the Gentiles are fulfilled ."". According to the prophecy the Jews returned to the land of their fathers after 1900 years and restored thier nation in 1948...Then why did God receive the fig tree which had been dead for 1900 years.??. MATTEW 24:32_33. '"..as soon as it's twigs get tender and leaves come out ." Means that the fig tree which was dead revives . According to this prophecy Iseral became independent in 1948. What did the Bible tell us to know when we see all these things ??What do the words ,"'..He is near at the door."'means?? "".. Revelation 3:20 "" Here I m I stand at the door and knock.If any one hears my voice and opens the door...."'.The words"" ,He is right at the door "'.. means that He is preaching to find those who listen to god's voice.... AMEN
Some of the early creative writings by anonymous writers whom did not take credit and did not even sign “Anonymous” were the jongleurs of the Bible - Old and New Testaments. Even biblical scholars do not offer the names of the scribes; in fact the opposite, they admit they do not know who wrote which. And as to when is another guess.
Josephus mentions James, a writer of the New Testament and brother of Jesus. Also, Polycarp we know was an early church figure that knew John
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Hahaha you are bringing Josephus around AD 93-94 that’s hundreds years ago
The quran and Ahadith have a chained of narration going back to the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa salaam
Every year in the month of Ramadan millions of muslims recite the quran most had teachers who can traced back to the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa salaam sometimes Christians attacked the manuscripts of the quran but what they missed of all the books of the quran were to be destroyed millions of people have memorized the whole quran then 2 billion people have memorized some chapters of the quran even new reverts learn some small chapters because it is used in our prayers
If you go to the Ahadith still more reliable then the New Testament we have less people who have memorized them but we still have millions memorizing Ahadith and they can trace it back to the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa salaam
The narrators are known any known as a liar the narration is not considered
People have no idea how meticulous muslims compilers were and some think Ahadith were not written down but they were one famous collection is Muwatta Imam Malik rahimullah who took Ahadith from tab’in he is of the 3rd best generation of humanity meaning he had 2 people between him and the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa salaam so the sayings were being written down Christianity has nothing like that
I encourage anyone to read about the compilation of the quran and Ahadith and keep in mind the continuous importance of the oral tradition for both
How many millions of Christians have memorized the New Testament in Greek language