The fact that Jim Butcher asked for the worst idea someone could come up with, then proceeded to write a 6-book series from said idea, is absolutely legendary.
He wasn’t flexing by taking that dare, he was proving an important point that distinguishes great writers from weak ones. Writers need to understand the point he proved as a fundamental principal of the craft in order to tap their creative potential.
Anyone notice whenever Brandon takes a drink that the camera cuts to wide shot to show him standing under the big sign that’s says absolutely no drinks allowed in the auditorium? Someone is being funny!
@@ethanmauser4861 Well, I myself look down on the whole MC idea to begin with apart from paying enormous amounts of money for nothing. But who knows? If some writer really needs say Gaiman's class that's them. I like Brandon and admire him but I'm not listening to learn to write - no magical book or class will do that. I just listen. Maybe it helps - maybe not but I'd take what he says with some skepticism.
@@ethanmauser4861 Generally I agree, excepting Neil Gaiman's class. I found it to be enjoyable and invaluable and nearly on the same level as Mr. Sanderson's course.
@The Anonymous Sir Backspace For sure, the number of teachers or even just public speakers who address the person who asked the question bother me. Make sure everyone's on the same page and save yourself questions in the future.
every time I watch a talk like this and someone asks a question you can't hear I pray the speaker repeats the question. nothing worse than when they don't.
We are so lucky we have all this archived. 50 years from now when he’s Tolkien level famous in and outside of fantasy circles, new up and coming writers will still be able to watch these... well hopefully at least
PLOTS -A book needs to be the mashing of a lot of ideas. You can’t write a book from one idea -Good setting but bad character =bad book -Trash or cliche setting but good characters= still ok book - Try to have a strange attractor aka a spin on a familiar idea, or a mash of two ideas that don’t seem like they might go together. (Heist plus my fair lady = mistbourn) Promise - Tone: Indicates the tone and style of story you’re telling. The beginning chapters usually do this. If you want your story to be funny- the start of the story needs to be funny. Thats why the cold open is popular. *Indiana Jones. Don’t start with a kid on the farm if you want action adventure tone promise *Starwars -> that’s why a prologue is popular. Try to avoid the prologue cliche. - Character Arc: This is how the character is going to change throughout the story. Either how THEY change or their SITUATION changes. Show your character’s desires and what’s preventing them. Could also be showing reader what they know he should want, but the character doesn’t want *Bilbo doesn’t want to go on an adventure*. - General Plot: Umbrella plot (visible plot), core plot (what your actual progress and payoff is going to be). Core plot could be a romance, but the umbrella plot is “we need to do x, and while we do x we fall in love”. General plot should be the umbrella plot usually. You can be more predictable in your plot than you think as long as your setting is bomb and your characters are really likable. **Progress - This is the hardest but most imporant. - The readers want a “map”, they want to know the direction they are going and the progress they are making through the story. They want to FEEL the progress. They want to see the story building toward something, and they want to find out what that “something” is. Create an illusion for the reader that a steady progress toward an inevitable and exciting goal is happening in the story. Do this by identifying what questions the reader wants answered, that will be the reason they are turning the page. - If you make a “promise” in the book, but start taking the story in another direction then readers get bored because they feel like they are on a “diversion” from the actual plot. Thats when they get bored. Thats why the progress needs to be cohesive with the promises you make as a writer. - Starwars Example: Umbrella plot is destroy empire but the reader thinks is actually -> get the plans to the princess. Character arc is Luke trusts the force (secondary character arc of Han becomes less of a jerk). All the scenes should be working toward those goals. Thats good progress. - When you write a plot make little increments in the plot where you can show you are making headway in the goals. If you are writing a romance, you need to indicate progress is happening, so plot out little points to indicate that is blooming. - Sometimes you need to nest plots like Umbrella plot -> Character plot -> Sub plot which all gets closed at some point [ie Alderon is destroyed, we can’t take the plans there. New mini sub plot becomes turn off the death star tractor beam and rescue the princess]. - Progress should involve problems arising. Payoff - The feeling you leave the reader with when they finish your book. You make good on all your promises. - Sometimes the final sequences/plot isn’t the original promise. It can be the character growing, plot expands, or along those lines. A lot of readers will have problems with a substitute a lot of times. If you promise them a “toy car” and give them a “toy plane” they won’t like that unless you REALLY convince them that what they really want is the substitute, even though they THOUGHT they wanted the original. - Pay off should flow naturally with the progress. It should give them everything they were promised at the beginning PLUS something else and new. Give them a toy car AND a plane.
I've just found this series of lectures and I think my favourite thing about Brandon here is, unlike other "tips and tricks videos" he doesn't discourage people using tropes or well-worn frameworks. He doesn't bash the idea of needing something wholly original and doesn't act as some sort of gatekeeper. Instead his enthusiasm to see people do *their* thing regardless of where it takes inspiration from is basically infectious and makes me feel like, even if one person reads my work and enjoys it, I've accomplished something.
One of my biggest struggles is that when I write, I think constantly "no you can't do that", or "no you can't go there". Being told by someone better at writing than myself that I can is quite encouraging.
It's no wonder that GRRM is taking so long to write his next book. Dude has so many characters and subplots and major plot lines that makes endless promises, needs progress, and payoff that it's like trying to untangle the largest heap of yarn in the world and connect all the pieces properly into a tapestry. I do not envy him.
While a major hassle, I think it's also fair to say that he has distracted himself with so many other things in his life, he's not giving himself the time and space to tackle the challenge properly. I'm sure that if he locked himself into a cabin in the woods for a year, with no internet, nothing but his books and a typewriter, he'd get it done. But he's too busy writing secondary stories, writing for video games, writing for TV, and doing all kinds of other stuff on top. He needs to full focus, not half ass it.
Brian Roecklein I can’t agree enough. Every promise shouldn’t pay off exactly how you want, but when all of them are subverted and paid off opposite to how you’d except. . . Not enjoyable
@Brian Roecklein, I almost skimmed past your comment, thinking it was more Star Wars flame post fluff. But wow, glad I read it. Yes, I think you're right. Genuinely useful application of this lens. Thanks.
Wasn’t that the case for each of the original trilogy, as well? Empire wasn’t met with critical reception at first due to the incredibly departure in tone from A New Hope. Then we flip to an even more flamboyant tone than A New Hope with Return, and the use of things like Ewoks was panned. Not to say I’m griping about them, I’ve loved each incarnation. But the arguments can be applied to the originals.
10:33 - What is plot? Why does it work? 11:38 - Promise, Progress, Payoff Promise: Tone, Genre, Character Arc, Type of Conflict, 18:42 - Character Arc 36:05 - Progress 45:00 - Progress in Umbrella Plot 47:04 - Matching The Right Promises with Progress 52:49 - Summary of Last Few Points 1:00:17 - Payoff
I’m guessing it is actually Brandon that includes rights to publish these as a condition to his work agreement, but I’m not sure. I’d bet universities (or their endowment’s stewards) would strongly prefer to jealously guard their ‘non-academy public figure’ lectures, but I may be completely wrong! 🙂
@@refoliation Probably because the University provides to students, and not to us RUclips viewers, access and participation to the writing and peer review groups that can provide hard feedback to students in these classes. But it is good as people outside of this BYU class can get some insights into what generally goes into writing Scifi/fantasy.
@@refoliation It depends on the university, for example MIT has OpenCourseWare where they have all the materials for a ton of classes posted free online. Other universities have nothing posted online outside of canvas/blackboard where you need to be enrolled in the class to access.
Brandon is like the opposite of a gatekeeper when it comes to writing. He chooses to give back his knowledge in the name of bettering the writers of the world and uploading these lectures for fee on youtube instead of keeping his secrets to himself or charging people money to access his lectures. Truly a model for anyone in any field.
I think Brandon might be better called a door greeter - he will welcome you in, and point you towards places you could go, while not telling you specifically how to get there.
"Why am I here? I do not even like stories." Was supposed to be my comment but I am now realising this could be an opener for my story. God damn it. These lessons work.
I'm not an aspiring writer, but I'm still really enjoying these lectures! When someone is knowledgeable and passionate about a topic, I can usually listen to them for hours. And on top of that, Brandon is a really engaging speaker.
Accurately describing Shadesmar means going off an entire tangent about the dimensional structure of the cosmere, how Investiture functions a la the spren, and to a certain extent spheres, Stormlight, and the highstorms. It's way quicker to just compare it to the fey realm and move on
@@snarf1504 That's a good thing. The last time the students were mic all you could hear was heavy breathing, noisy keyboards, and creaky chairs. Brandon repeats the question and/or summarize longer statements, so we don't need to hear the students.
Snarf He usually repeats the question doesn’t he? I still have no problem with not hearing the student’s questions, because that means we’re not forced to tolerate endless typing, papers shuffling, sniffing, coughing, and even babies crying.
Brandon must be a very good person, I’m 10 minutes into this presentation and the information provided is easily worth it’s weight in gold for any aspiring new writer regardless of genre. Brandon could just as easily charged a few thousand dollars as other well established authors have ( I won’t mention names but I could) for this course and yet makes it free on RUclips! God Bless you Brandon Sanderson, you have just provided an amazing service to thousands perhaps millions of aspiring writers of fiction. 👍🏼
I've had a series stuck in plotting and development hell for about a decade now. This year, I'm finally getting serious about writing it. I know I'm a little late to this party, but I found these lectures at the perfect time. I followed a lot of other people who offered writing advice, but so many of them just seem to take things so seriously that it's almost like a "no fun allowed" type of thing. This advice and these lectures really resonate with me and encourage me to write more. This is honestly better than any paid courses I've seen. The fact that this is free on RUclips is an absolute godsend. Thank you!
Good luck! Some authors when they give advice, they act like no one cares about it and you should have no reason to have a story and just write it anyway
"You cannot escape so easily, Dragon. It is not done between us. It will not be done until the end of time.” Then he was gone, and the mountain and the island stood alone. Waiting. Chapter 1: some-BODY
I love how at the last second the audience starts cheering him with applause and he responds with a tender "Oh, thanks". He certainly deserves that applause and more!
I think the whole ‘progress’ thing kind of explains why Season One of A:TLA, though iconic, is the weakest of the three. We establish the North Pole as a goal very early on and there are so many diversions, but it’s clever because it also introduces the whole comet thing, which keeps us hooked as an overall series end goal.
But the thing is you don’t realise that book 1 is weakest until you’ve watched the whole series. Up until the finale of book 1, you are already saying, “This is so good”.
@Funnycat 77 Nope. I think you'll find that overall, the most people would agree that Book 2 was the strongest. Masterpiece of a book. The character development is Incredible, the themes and subplots are mature. The overall execution is nigh perfect. Its like the empire strikes back of the series.
Book 2 > Book 3 > Book 1 Although that’s not true of individual episodes. In my opinion, three best parts of the series are the Battle for the North Pole, the Battle under Ba Sing Se, and when Zuko was struggling with learning to use lightning. Those were all in Books 1 and 2. Book 3’s Last Agni Kai is an honorable mention. I think I like those moments the best because they were showing strong character growth (or change might be a better descriptor) combined with exciting events. Book 1 suffers from too many diversions and the writers appear to still be getting comfortable regarding the tone, so it’s goofy kid shenanigans in one episode and uncovering the genocide of Aang’s entire people in the next. Book 2 has consistent progress, character change, and a more consistent tone. Book 3 suffers from being less dynamic than Book 2. It has little character growth at all among the main characters beyond mending some relationships, which is hardly personal growth. Many of its episodes have little to no progress and while some are diversions, others just feel like stalling. One of the episodes is literally the main characters just waiting for the final episode to start. In other words, poor pacing. I critique because I love. Overall the series was fantastic. It’s a shame that in Korra the writers seemed to lose touch with what made ATLA good.
As someone with ADHD, and a very small attention span, I was engaged and enjoying this entire lecture. This is really rare for me and I appreciate how good of a teacher you are. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to enjoy your classes remotely.
„No food or drinks allowed in Auditorium“ - and Brandon walking up there with his Bottle occasionally sipping like a Boss ! Lol xD but honestly thank you very much for this! Please more of it.
Happens often in universities. Stupid rule and most people just ignore it. I guess it is mostly if someone behaves badly, they can totally blame it on that person as the rules are clear.
You're all missing the point of the sign, it's actually brilliant. If we allow food and drinks, the auditorium turns into a cinema hall, with all the same noise, mess and trash. Nobody wants that. Putting up a sign that says "clean up after yourself" doesn't work, because of our psychology. Humans only follow rules precisely if there is an immediate threat of punishment. Without enforcement, we always bend the rules for our own convenience. Bending "no food or drinks" becomes be sneaky and leave no evidence, which is exactly the behaviour we wanted! The professor/teacher having a drink is normal because they have to talk for 1 to 3 hours straight. Not drinking would destroy their voice.
I think it usually applies to everything but water, because cleaning reasons. Soda or juice is almost impossible to fully exorcise from carpet, and it’s an eternal magnet for dirt and grime. But I like the psychology for sneaky/no evidence food & drink, it makes a lot of sense.
Thank you so much...from a guy who barely makes ends meat and can't afford the masterclass or the formal education. This is a gold mine for me. Thank you, I dont know of a better way to say that at the moment so just...thank you.
@@memcgiffin today i took that advice to heart and did some writing this morning after a couples years of nothing. Only 150 words in 30 minutes but im making this my new normal. Hopefully i can finish this one haha
These lectures are returning my desire to write again. I've not been writing for a very long time, but I am finding a return to it cathartic. This is the class I needed as a young adult dreaming of being a writer.
I am an aspiring Dungeon Master in Dungeons and Dragons. That format of storytelling and story writing is very different than a movie or novel, as my players are the main characters and their actions influence my story as it proresses. These lectures, despite being designed for authors primarily, are incredibly helpful for me in laying out my initial ideas and even as far as helping me with bringing these ideas to life! Thank you for having these on RUclips!
Imagine giving this a thumbs down. One of the greatest writers in the world is willing to teach us what he does, and how he does it, for free. And you're like, "Hmm, nah, no good." Impossible. Thank you, Mr. Sanderson. You are, quite literally, an inspiration.
When delivering a lecture, I find it important to keep a few things in mind: -Be Knowledgable -Be able to pass that Knowledge along -Be Funny -Be Honest -Be Detailed -Be Expressive Sanderson NAILS all of these. These lectures are perfection and awesome in the literal sense of the word.
Even if you've studied a topic for years, hearing things again can still be super useful. Case in point: I've listened to two previous years of his lectures, many seasons of Writing Excuses, and have a B.A. in Creative Writing, but despite having heard almost all of this a hundred times before I still discovered a promise that was missing from the beginning of my book that I spend half the novel paying off without setting up properly.
To add to your point. It was great when Brandon brought up examples where he had failed to make the right promise because it emphasises that this is something even the best authors can get wrong.
Honestly I have never read any of Sanderson’s books, but I’m an English major studying in Omaha, Nebraska so I hear his name a lot !! Always was skeptical bc I was afraid that he was just an overhyped fantasy writer, but this series has completely changed my perspective of Sanderson and the fantasy genre overall !! This is an AWESOME resource if you don’t have time or can’t afford a creative writing class, but this goes even deeper than any writing or creative writing class I’ve been in. Not only is he giving a “how to” but also a “why this works so well”. I really admire Sanderson now and understand why he’s such a huge name in the English field. Truly deserved !!
He’s awesome, definitely worth a read. I graduated as an English Major last year, and Brandon and his lectures are a cornerstone of infinite 💎 I continue to mine. He is, for all intents and purposes the Arkenstone of modern fantasy.
Progress... omg this is why I loved Ready Player One and The Martian so much. I haven’t had that reading experience in a long time. I just needed to keep going to get to the promised destination! The Martian has the map too for his journey to the MAV and the journal so we can see days passing. And ready player one has this urgency of a race to get all the keys. Such a valuable lesson thanks Brandon! I will definitely put this in my writing.
Brandon Sanderson, Thank you for your generosity to share your experience and knowledge. You didn't have to, but you have a generous spirit. Thank you! Also, I love how you repeat the questions we can't hear from the audience. Wonderful teaching. gush gush gush
I would also recommend Ellen Brock's channel (novel editor) as she also gives really concise practical advice, like Brandon. Another channel is "film courage" in particular Corey Mandell and Alan Watt. Corey talks about the writer mindset and Alan talks about creating a dilemma and the steps that go along with that: reluctance, false hope, temptation, suffering, surrender and transformation (for arcs)
I'm attempting to rewrite the novel i wrote in high school (badly) and with my most recent rewrite of the outline I was struggling to figure out how to start. When I did, the first few paragraphs felt WRONG. Now I know why, I wasn't making any promises as to what the reader should expect from me the author, the characters or the plot. I was just creating a scene without giving it a reason. This lecture was eye-opening. I can't wait to watch more.
I've heard that writers will often finish a book and just scrap the first chapter, replacing it with the second chapter. I would say just write, and then worry about fixing stuff in the edit.
In college, I've never spend much time in the classroom...guess, this would have been very different with Mr Sanderson as professor! Thank you so much for uploading this!!!
"They kept waiting for the diversion to end. If you've ever been in a movie where you've been like I am SO BORED, even though exciting things are happening, cant they just get back to the main plot? ... Canto Bight" Love this man.
I've been meaning to watch these lectures for a year now and finally decided to sit down and watch, they absolutely fascinating and so informative. At 40 minutes in roughly when describing Inferno and the compelling progress of it, and how even though it is episodic it makes you read on like a thriller. for 20 years my favourite sci-fi book has been Use of Weapons by Iain M Banks, no matter what I can always power through it. I remember the first time I read it, once I found the chapters alternating between moving forward and counting down that I realised there was going to be some end point where both parts collide I couldn't put it down. This just made it clear to me why!
You just changed my life 7:10. Jim Butcher is my favorite author, and Codex Alera is my favorite series. I even have a tattoo with Codex Alera and the Dresden Files. Codex Alera got me back into reading; it was like breathing life itself after denying my own humanity. I don't think I can look at the books the same way now lol. When trying to get other people to read I always explained it more as Avatar the Last Air Bender, but fantasy. I had the most amazing experience with Jim maybe 9 or 10 years ago. I sent him an email asking if he would say hello to a friend who was also a big fan. I honestly didn't think he would do it, a famous author and all probably doesn't have time for random fan emails. He sent the email saying hello, and did something so amazing to this day it makes me smile. He sent me an unedited first couple chapters of his 13th Dresden File book. I got to see the changes from when the book was actually published and that version. I always struggled with spelling, grammar, and bad hand writing; so to see that version really inspired me to write my own short stories. I still write to this day, but never actually finished a full story.
The first I ever saw of Brandon was him making a weird statement at a panel, then the other 3 members explaining why he was wrong. Then it was this series. I've been recommended Mistborn by a friend too, so I am a little apprehensive I know too much going on, but his story sound genuinely awesome and I love his approach to writing. It is very true that no one is an architect or gardener 100% either, everyone is on a scale and works differently- the key is learning how to manage and support how your creativity, passion and joy comes naturally.
This is the greatest thing new writers could watch. I would love to take this class just to be able to interact with the legend. The classmates at BYU are fortunate!
Brandon makes me feel guilty for not reading more stories. It's as if these authors put their life's work into these projects, and I'm just letting all that effort go to waste.
I would love to read more books, but Brandon was my introduction into fantasy and I'm worried I won't find much that can top his works, especially the more recent ones. Like you know when you find that thing that tastes so good that you'd be fine if you no longer tasted, knowing it peaked there? Yeah. That's how I feel when I read his latest books and especially some of the highlights in the books.
@@KrazyKyle-ij9vb There's plenty of current authors that match and surpass Sanderson's works in the fantasy genre. Joe Abercrombie, Steve Erikson, Brent Weeks, etc. I'd recommend exploring older fantasy works as well, especially if you want to write fantasy. You write what you read, and if you only read Sanderson you'll just be a much lesser version of him when you write. Cheers
I learned SO much from listening to this. The main take away- the ability to organize and focus my thoughts. While I listened, I took notes. I fleshed out loose ideas for my characters and I replayed a couple parts to really understand. A light bulb turned on for me, I felt like I understood what to give attention to and what aspects would make my story worth reading. I randomly decided I liked writing not too long ago, and no one around me has any interest in reading. I didn't know who to talk to about what the writing process has been like for me. I feel a lot less like I'm struggling along by myself and more confident that my idea and my writing is going to be worth the effort. So thank you.
I love this. Love how you explains how Romance fits in as well. The umbrella plot, and then the romance is what you are actually here for. haha! So true
Thank you so much for uploading these classes online. Even though I'm not a writer or necessarily want to become one in the future, stories have fascinated me since I was a child and knowing about the ways writers set up to build them has always interested me.
I have absolutely zero interest in writing anything myself, but I really enjoy seeing someone at the top of a craft disect their art. Thanks for the wonderful stories you tell.
"And the this is the surprise I used for Mistborn-" *"Requiem For A Tower" plays in the background as I frantically press every button BUT the mute button in an attempt to not be spoiled*
Such luck. I was just looking to rewatch the entire course videos (I watched the really old ones) and come to find a new higher quality version. Thank you so much Brandon for offering these for free. I do enjoy my time on Masterclass, Skillshare, and other RUclipsrs. But these lectures are by far the most helpful I've ever heard.
Jim Butcher wrote a series based on a bet about mixing Pokemon with Ancient Rome. The series is called Codex Alera and it's one of the best 6 books I've ever read.
It does not stop to amaze me how these things seem so simple when someone voices them out. And yes, not hiding it behind paywalls is a virtue. Thank you so much!
This is gold. I've seen like 4-5 mastercalss courses and I guess there was only 1 good one (Dan Brown). But the others didn't make me rethink/redesign stuff in my work to be better at all. This 1 hour had me write up bounch of stuff on a note already. Thanks!
Been watching a bunch of these and I'm actually astonished by how much of what is said are things I already do, this is like the 6th lecture I've watched now and it almost feels like review. Scary.
I just finished "Alloy of Law" and I can definitely see how the brainstorming process led to that story. "So, how about if The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. was mixed with an updated version of Mistborn?" Great book, can't wait to get into the 2nd and 3rd books. Bonus points for the 'Wax and Wayne' word play....
Just so you know, there’ll be a 4th book in that series coming soon, according to Brandon. It’s not a trilogy, it’s more like a fun one-off (Alloy of Law) then a trilogy with the same characters (Shadows of Self, Bands of Mourning, The Lost Metal).
Haha at the very end when the class claps, Sanderson's surprised and says "aw thanks". I really think it's amazing how he's teaching a class that changed his life, he's passing it forward.
This video was so helpful. Lately, I've been feeling frustration towards certain stories with their plotting and I realize it was because I felt the progress was diverting from the promise of the story.
Brandon, this is so generous of you to share this. I have studied craft for the past 10 years ("toiling away in obscurity hahah") and I still find everything you share here absolutely riveting and super helpful. Thank you thank you thank you!!
I listen to these lectures with a Lord of the Rings soundtrack on in another tab! It adds a fun element to these already great vids. Thank you so much for releasing these!
The fact that Jim Butcher asked for the worst idea someone could come up with, then proceeded to write a 6-book series from said idea, is absolutely legendary.
Dresden Files was apparently a dare as well.
So he seems to have made a career out of trying to prove people wrong.
Legendary indeed
It’s a really great series to.
Quite the flex honestly
😂😭 he's so good but also so random and funny, trying to prove everyone wrong, I love it 🤣
He wasn’t flexing by taking that dare, he was proving an important point that distinguishes great writers from weak ones. Writers need to understand the point he proved as a fundamental principal of the craft in order to tap their creative potential.
Anyone notice whenever Brandon takes a drink that the camera cuts to wide shot to show him standing under the big sign that’s says absolutely no drinks allowed in the auditorium? Someone is being funny!
Funny yes. But from a singer, clinician, and presenter, NOT having water for an hour long lecture would wreck your voice pretty quickly.
@@TheMusicscotty You're a Singer? What's your favorite form and rhythm?
@@clark5317 War form, and Rhythm of War of course!
@@The_Reductionist No mateform?
Was that water? I think it was vodka.
Thank you for giving this out freely and not holding this behind a "MasterClass" paywall. Journey before destination, Sir. :)
THIS.
I’ve learned so much more from only the second lesson of this than I have from any of the writing MasterClasses
@@ethanmauser4861 Well, I myself look down on the whole MC idea to begin with apart from paying enormous amounts of money for nothing. But who knows? If some writer really needs say Gaiman's class that's them. I like Brandon and admire him but I'm not listening to learn to write - no magical book or class will do that. I just listen. Maybe it helps - maybe not but I'd take what he says with some skepticism.
I'm sure he gets paid decently however I doubt money is his main motivation for doing these classes. That's why they're so good in the first place.
@@ethanmauser4861 Generally I agree, excepting Neil Gaiman's class. I found it to be enjoyable and invaluable and nearly on the same level as Mr. Sanderson's course.
I love how he repeats every question so we can hear it... actually, I just love this whole series
@The Anonymous Sir Backspace For sure, the number of teachers or even just public speakers who address the person who asked the question bother me. Make sure everyone's on the same page and save yourself questions in the future.
I'm not even a writer nor aspiring writer, nor do I read lots of fantasy, yet I'm here loving these lectures.
every time I watch a talk like this and someone asks a question you can't hear I pray the speaker repeats the question. nothing worse than when they don't.
@The Anonymous Sir Backspace are their spoilers of his series or other series, pls tell
@@shalimarlake7852 y p o o. O o. Po o o. P
I can't believe this is free. GOLD. Thank you, Brandon.
bruh, ga nyangka ketemu di sini... baca fantasi juga bang?
Ketemu abang disini. Salam bang
@@narayana7331 sim, ele lê fantasia 👍🏻
All of this information you can easily find online anyways. There's nothing groundbreaking or innovative at all here, just basic 101 writing
This man is a treasure in this world. I hope he lives at least a hundred years.
We are so lucky we have all this archived. 50 years from now when he’s Tolkien level famous in and outside of fantasy circles, new up and coming writers will still be able to watch these... well hopefully at least
right? dude's such a genius, and he also puts the lectures on youtube for free so others can write, like wow
Hes certainly helpful
Yes, he most certainly should.
Waiting for GRRM and Rothfus to slip him an envelope to come over and help weave the rug into a rope.
My friends: Beers after work?
Me: Can't. Have class.
Abhishek Das cant I go to BYU
nate holyoak
What?
@@mightymouse5930 xD
This aged poorly
@@Jdawson1912 What is this code ?
PLOTS
-A book needs to be the mashing of a lot of ideas. You can’t write a book from one idea
-Good setting but bad character =bad book
-Trash or cliche setting but good characters= still ok book
- Try to have a strange attractor aka a spin on a familiar idea, or a mash of two ideas that don’t seem like they might go together. (Heist plus my fair lady = mistbourn)
Promise
- Tone: Indicates the tone and style of story you’re telling. The beginning chapters usually do this. If you want your story to be funny- the start of the story needs to be funny. Thats why the cold open is popular. *Indiana Jones. Don’t start with a kid on the farm if you want action adventure tone promise *Starwars -> that’s why a prologue is popular. Try to avoid the prologue cliche.
- Character Arc: This is how the character is going to change throughout the story. Either how THEY change or their SITUATION changes. Show your character’s desires and what’s preventing them. Could also be showing reader what they know he should want, but the character doesn’t want *Bilbo doesn’t want to go on an adventure*.
- General Plot: Umbrella plot (visible plot), core plot (what your actual progress and payoff is going to be). Core plot could be a romance, but the umbrella plot is “we need to do x, and while we do x we fall in love”. General plot should be the umbrella plot usually. You can be more predictable in your plot than you think as long as your setting is bomb and your characters are really likable.
**Progress
- This is the hardest but most imporant.
- The readers want a “map”, they want to know the direction they are going and the progress they are making through the story. They want to FEEL the progress. They want to see the story building toward something, and they want to find out what that “something” is. Create an illusion for the reader that a steady progress toward an inevitable and exciting goal is happening in the story. Do this by identifying what questions the reader wants answered, that will be the reason they are turning the page.
- If you make a “promise” in the book, but start taking the story in another direction then readers get bored because they feel like they are on a “diversion” from the actual plot. Thats when they get bored. Thats why the progress needs to be cohesive with the promises you make as a writer.
- Starwars Example: Umbrella plot is destroy empire but the reader thinks is actually -> get the plans to the princess. Character arc is Luke trusts the force (secondary character arc of Han becomes less of a jerk). All the scenes should be working toward those goals. Thats good progress.
- When you write a plot make little increments in the plot where you can show you are making headway in the goals. If you are writing a romance, you need to indicate progress is happening, so plot out little points to indicate that is blooming.
- Sometimes you need to nest plots like Umbrella plot -> Character plot -> Sub plot which all gets closed at some point [ie Alderon is destroyed, we can’t take the plans there. New mini sub plot becomes turn off the death star tractor beam and rescue the princess].
- Progress should involve problems arising.
Payoff
- The feeling you leave the reader with when they finish your book. You make good on all your promises.
- Sometimes the final sequences/plot isn’t the original promise. It can be the character growing, plot expands, or along those lines. A lot of readers will have problems with a substitute a lot of times. If you promise them a “toy car” and give them a “toy plane” they won’t like that unless you REALLY convince them that what they really want is the substitute, even though they THOUGHT they wanted the original.
- Pay off should flow naturally with the progress. It should give them everything they were promised at the beginning PLUS something else and new. Give them a toy car AND a plane.
@@81droid81 did it hurt when you fall off from the heaven? Thank you so much.
thankyou so. much
Look i only use expletives when i am extremely satisfied. So fuckingggg thank you!
Thank you! 💞❤️
Thx! did you take notes on the other lectures, can you tell me where to see them?
I've just found this series of lectures and I think my favourite thing about Brandon here is, unlike other "tips and tricks videos" he doesn't discourage people using tropes or well-worn frameworks.
He doesn't bash the idea of needing something wholly original and doesn't act as some sort of gatekeeper.
Instead his enthusiasm to see people do *their* thing regardless of where it takes inspiration from is basically infectious and makes me feel like, even if one person reads my work and enjoys it, I've accomplished something.
Indeed!
Well said Michael!
One of my biggest struggles is that when I write, I think constantly "no you can't do that", or "no you can't go there".
Being told by someone better at writing than myself that I can is quite encouraging.
Exactly
Well said!
It's no wonder that GRRM is taking so long to write his next book. Dude has so many characters and subplots and major plot lines that makes endless promises, needs progress, and payoff that it's like trying to untangle the largest heap of yarn in the world and connect all the pieces properly into a tapestry. I do not envy him.
A Meereenese knot, if you will
While a major hassle, I think it's also fair to say that he has distracted himself with so many other things in his life, he's not giving himself the time and space to tackle the challenge properly.
I'm sure that if he locked himself into a cabin in the woods for a year, with no internet, nothing but his books and a typewriter, he'd get it done. But he's too busy writing secondary stories, writing for video games, writing for TV, and doing all kinds of other stuff on top. He needs to full focus, not half ass it.
“Don’t start a wacky comedy with a prologue that makes us weep”
*UP has entered the chat*
And there's Shrek 3 😢
This perfectly communicates why everyone is upset with the new Star Wars Trilogy. Each set of writers and directors made different promises.
Brian Roecklein
I can’t agree enough. Every promise shouldn’t pay off exactly how you want, but when all of them are subverted and paid off opposite to how you’d except. . . Not enjoyable
Should have just had Rian Johnson do all three of them
Mauler has an amazing, in-depth series on why The Last Jedi was so disappointing.
@Brian Roecklein, I almost skimmed past your comment, thinking it was more Star Wars flame post fluff.
But wow, glad I read it. Yes, I think you're right.
Genuinely useful application of this lens. Thanks.
Wasn’t that the case for each of the original trilogy, as well? Empire wasn’t met with critical reception at first due to the incredibly departure in tone from A New Hope. Then we flip to an even more flamboyant tone than A New Hope with Return, and the use of things like Ewoks was panned.
Not to say I’m griping about them, I’ve loved each incarnation. But the arguments can be applied to the originals.
"Kid on a farm"
Can't stop thinking about Eragon's prologue and first chapter
Applies to comic books too. Think Superman!
@@krishanubanerjee6955 True!
:o thats a good example!
Wheel of Time as well.
Reason why kid on a farm is boring is because most people who write one have never been a kid on a farm.
10:33 - What is plot? Why does it work?
11:38 - Promise, Progress, Payoff
Promise: Tone, Genre, Character Arc, Type of Conflict,
18:42 - Character Arc
36:05 - Progress
45:00 - Progress in Umbrella Plot
47:04 - Matching The Right Promises with Progress
52:49 - Summary of Last Few Points
1:00:17 - Payoff
Arigatō Gozaimashita
👍🏾
Almighty bless you.
Thank you a lot
Wait a second, there's no payoff!
Its actually insane that we can hear a lesson from one of the most accomplished authors in the world for free.
Welcome to the Internet
It's pretty great that BYU allows for these lectures to be shared online with students outside their university :)
I’m guessing it is actually Brandon that includes rights to publish these as a condition to his work agreement, but I’m not sure. I’d bet universities (or their endowment’s stewards) would strongly prefer to jealously guard their ‘non-academy public figure’ lectures, but I may be completely wrong! 🙂
They only did it because of COVID
@@chananyaminster This isn't true - he has uploaded lecture series from years before 2020.
@@refoliation Probably because the University provides to students, and not to us RUclips viewers, access and participation to the writing and peer review groups that can provide hard feedback to students in these classes. But it is good as people outside of this BYU class can get some insights into what generally goes into writing Scifi/fantasy.
@@refoliation It depends on the university, for example MIT has OpenCourseWare where they have all the materials for a ton of classes posted free online. Other universities have nothing posted online outside of canvas/blackboard where you need to be enrolled in the class to access.
Just got my first manuscript request from Writers House. Watching Brandons vids helped a lot.
Congrats!! 👏🏻👏🏻
@@NikolaAjzenhamer Thanks. It will probably lead to nothing. I have no other prior publications, so unlikely to succeed. And I only self-edited.
Congrats. Good luck to you, now and in the future
Write Heroes Congrats and you never know. This might lead to other things.
WOO!
Brandon is like the opposite of a gatekeeper when it comes to writing. He chooses to give back his knowledge in the name of bettering the writers of the world and uploading these lectures for fee on youtube instead of keeping his secrets to himself or charging people money to access his lectures. Truly a model for anyone in any field.
I think Brandon might be better called a door greeter - he will welcome you in, and point you towards places you could go, while not telling you specifically how to get there.
"Why am I here? I do not even like stories."
Was supposed to be my comment but I am now realising this could be an opener for my story. God damn it. These lessons work.
I'm not an aspiring writer, but I'm still really enjoying these lectures! When someone is knowledgeable and passionate about a topic, I can usually listen to them for hours. And on top of that, Brandon is a really engaging speaker.
I love how even he has a hard time describing his own books. “It’s a uh, it’s ummmm, a.....it’s a fairy land?”
He tried to do so without spoilers.
Still kinda cute though. xD
Same
Sounds like shadesmar! Lol, totally not.
Accurately describing Shadesmar means going off an entire tangent about the dimensional structure of the cosmere, how Investiture functions a la the spren, and to a certain extent spheres, Stormlight, and the highstorms. It's way quicker to just compare it to the fey realm and move on
This year's classes looks like it's going to be the one with the best sound.
Video still off maybe
@@snarf1504 That's a good thing. The last time the students were mic all you could hear was heavy breathing, noisy keyboards, and creaky chairs.
Brandon repeats the question and/or summarize longer statements, so we don't need to hear the students.
Snarf
He usually repeats the question doesn’t he?
I still have no problem with not hearing the student’s questions, because that means we’re not forced to tolerate endless typing, papers shuffling, sniffing, coughing, and even babies crying.
You because of covid? Hope the next lectures exist haha
@@EBgCampos Lol, wait, my question was asked B.C.
I'm not writing novels but I am writing scripts and I'm gaining tons useful information and tips from this.
Having taken college script writing courses, this is all very much the same stuff. This is such a good resource for any form of writing.
Me too lol
@@alethearia well that's reassuring
Same!
Thanks for the free knowledge nuggets. I'll pay it back by buying your books.
Brandon must be a very good person, I’m 10 minutes into this presentation and the information provided is easily worth it’s weight in gold for any aspiring new writer regardless of genre. Brandon could just as easily charged a few thousand dollars as other well established authors have ( I won’t mention names but I could) for this course and yet makes it free on RUclips! God Bless you Brandon Sanderson, you have just provided an amazing service to thousands perhaps millions of aspiring writers of fiction. 👍🏼
Mention names 😈😈😈
@@AndYouWillBeWithMe the bad ending
"Another One"
-DJ Sanderson
LOL
Yes!! Lol 😆😂
I've had a series stuck in plotting and development hell for about a decade now. This year, I'm finally getting serious about writing it. I know I'm a little late to this party, but I found these lectures at the perfect time. I followed a lot of other people who offered writing advice, but so many of them just seem to take things so seriously that it's almost like a "no fun allowed" type of thing. This advice and these lectures really resonate with me and encourage me to write more. This is honestly better than any paid courses I've seen. The fact that this is free on RUclips is an absolute godsend. Thank you!
Good luck!
@@arcane_ironic Thanks a lot!
Good luck! Some authors when they give advice, they act like no one cares about it and you should have no reason to have a story and just write it anyway
"You cannot escape so easily, Dragon. It is not done between us. It will not be done until the end of time.”
Then he was gone, and the mountain and the island stood alone. Waiting.
Chapter 1:
some-BODY
Severely under voted comment.
The fact that I knew exactly what this was referencing says a lot about me
Some-Body once told me I broke the world around me, and brutally murdered my family.
I love how at the last second the audience starts cheering him with applause and he responds with a tender "Oh, thanks". He certainly deserves that applause and more!
I think the whole ‘progress’ thing kind of explains why Season One of A:TLA, though iconic, is the weakest of the three. We establish the North Pole as a goal very early on and there are so many diversions, but it’s clever because it also introduces the whole comet thing, which keeps us hooked as an overall series end goal.
I love season 1. But I love all the seasons
But the thing is you don’t realise that book 1 is weakest until you’ve watched the whole series. Up until the finale of book 1, you are already saying, “This is so good”.
@Funnycat 77 Nope. I think you'll find that overall, the most people would agree that Book 2 was the strongest. Masterpiece of a book. The character development is Incredible, the themes and subplots are mature. The overall execution is nigh perfect. Its like the empire strikes back of the series.
@@dr.j7542 Ba Sing Se is the strongest setting in the show. So much happens there too and all the characters develop hugely.
Book 2 > Book 3 > Book 1
Although that’s not true of individual episodes. In my opinion, three best parts of the series are the Battle for the North Pole, the Battle under Ba Sing Se, and when Zuko was struggling with learning to use lightning. Those were all in Books 1 and 2. Book 3’s Last Agni Kai is an honorable mention. I think I like those moments the best because they were showing strong character growth (or change might be a better descriptor) combined with exciting events.
Book 1 suffers from too many diversions and the writers appear to still be getting comfortable regarding the tone, so it’s goofy kid shenanigans in one episode and uncovering the genocide of Aang’s entire people in the next.
Book 2 has consistent progress, character change, and a more consistent tone.
Book 3 suffers from being less dynamic than Book 2. It has little character growth at all among the main characters beyond mending some relationships, which is hardly personal growth. Many of its episodes have little to no progress and while some are diversions, others just feel like stalling. One of the episodes is literally the main characters just waiting for the final episode to start. In other words, poor pacing.
I critique because I love. Overall the series was fantastic. It’s a shame that in Korra the writers seemed to lose touch with what made ATLA good.
Sir, your lecture was beneficial. It expanded my view of the plot, and thanks to you, I can now improve the plot of my books!
As someone with ADHD, and a very small attention span, I was engaged and enjoying this entire lecture. This is really rare for me and I appreciate how good of a teacher you are. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to enjoy your classes remotely.
Yes I made it to 37 minutes before going to the comments, says something about the information and its presentation, I reckon.
„No food or drinks allowed in Auditorium“ - and Brandon walking up there with his Bottle occasionally sipping like a Boss ! Lol xD but honestly thank you very much for this! Please more of it.
Happens often in universities. Stupid rule and most people just ignore it. I guess it is mostly if someone behaves badly, they can totally blame it on that person as the rules are clear.
The installation of that sign was obviously a baby boomer decision. 🥱
You're all missing the point of the sign, it's actually brilliant. If we allow food and drinks, the auditorium turns into a cinema hall, with all the same noise, mess and trash. Nobody wants that. Putting up a sign that says "clean up after yourself" doesn't work, because of our psychology. Humans only follow rules precisely if there is an immediate threat of punishment. Without enforcement, we always bend the rules for our own convenience. Bending "no food or drinks" becomes be sneaky and leave no evidence, which is exactly the behaviour we wanted!
The professor/teacher having a drink is normal because they have to talk for 1 to 3 hours straight. Not drinking would destroy their voice.
I think it usually applies to everything but water, because cleaning reasons. Soda or juice is almost impossible to fully exorcise from carpet, and it’s an eternal magnet for dirt and grime.
But I like the psychology for sneaky/no evidence food & drink, it makes a lot of sense.
My thoughts exactly!
Thank you so much...from a guy who barely makes ends meat and can't afford the masterclass or the formal education. This is a gold mine for me. Thank you, I dont know of a better way to say that at the moment so just...thank you.
"Oh, thanks" like he didn't just drop gold.
The bittersweet irony of the realization you spend more time watching videos about writing than actually writing. 😫
I think it's just bitter 😭
I'm on the same boat bud
Dang, wow I just realized that. Oof
Then take Brandon's advice and set an exact time to write. A no excuse time for the craft
@@FloridaGoth yes, that has worked for me, writing is much easier now.
@@memcgiffin today i took that advice to heart and did some writing this morning after a couples years of nothing. Only 150 words in 30 minutes but im making this my new normal. Hopefully i can finish this one haha
I like the little Kaladin on his shirt
And Syl.
OMG I didn't even realise that's who it was!
Dragon prince, right?
THAT was KALADIN?! Why didn't I see it before?!
@@robertsiemon410 also thought it was dragon prince for a moment!
I recently finished the first draft of my first book. This series played a big part in that.
Still working on mine
How are you doing with your book? I hope you will finish it and maybe publish it!
@@TrisquelXIII I am very close, and I do intend to publish.
These lectures are returning my desire to write again. I've not been writing for a very long time, but I am finding a return to it cathartic. This is the class I needed as a young adult dreaming of being a writer.
It's characteristically magnanimous of you to make these available here, Brightlord 🙏.
I am an aspiring Dungeon Master in Dungeons and Dragons. That format of storytelling and story writing is very different than a movie or novel, as my players are the main characters and their actions influence my story as it proresses.
These lectures, despite being designed for authors primarily, are incredibly helpful for me in laying out my initial ideas and even as far as helping me with bringing these ideas to life! Thank you for having these on RUclips!
Imagine giving this a thumbs down. One of the greatest writers in the world is willing to teach us what he does, and how he does it, for free. And you're like, "Hmm, nah, no good." Impossible.
Thank you, Mr. Sanderson. You are, quite literally, an inspiration.
Ah yes, The Master speaks yet again
When delivering a lecture, I find it important to keep a few things in mind:
-Be Knowledgable
-Be able to pass that
Knowledge along
-Be Funny
-Be Honest
-Be Detailed
-Be Expressive
Sanderson NAILS all of these. These lectures are perfection and awesome in the literal sense of the word.
Even if you've studied a topic for years, hearing things again can still be super useful. Case in point: I've listened to two previous years of his lectures, many seasons of Writing Excuses, and have a B.A. in Creative Writing, but despite having heard almost all of this a hundred times before I still discovered a promise that was missing from the beginning of my book that I spend half the novel paying off without setting up properly.
To add to your point. It was great when Brandon brought up examples where he had failed to make the right promise because it emphasises that this is something even the best authors can get wrong.
It's funny and sad at the same time that i watched more lectures from sanderson than from my own proffessor in computer science
😂😂😂
True for me too
His classes are The Oasis in a desert for writers like me... THANK YOU so very much for these videos.
Brandons mastery of the subject matter really comes out in the Q&A. Just hitting home runs each time, with great examples for reference.
This man seems like a remarkable teacher from what I've seen this far.
"And he got over himself and they got together."
Sanderson casually explaining the plot of When Harry Met Sally...
Welcome to America movie
Brandon, thank you for giving back! You've inspired me to write again!
Honestly I have never read any of Sanderson’s books, but I’m an English major studying in Omaha, Nebraska so I hear his name a lot !! Always was skeptical bc I was afraid that he was just an overhyped fantasy writer, but this series has completely changed my perspective of Sanderson and the fantasy genre overall !!
This is an AWESOME resource if you don’t have time or can’t afford a creative writing class, but this goes even deeper than any writing or creative writing class I’ve been in. Not only is he giving a “how to” but also a “why this works so well”. I really admire Sanderson now and understand why he’s such a huge name in the English field. Truly deserved !!
He’s awesome, definitely worth a read. I graduated as an English Major last year, and Brandon and his lectures are a cornerstone of infinite 💎 I continue to mine. He is, for all intents and purposes the Arkenstone of modern fantasy.
Mad props to Omaha, Nebraska
Progress... omg this is why I loved Ready Player One and The Martian so much. I haven’t had that reading experience in a long time. I just needed to keep going to get to the promised destination! The Martian has the map too for his journey to the MAV and the journal so we can see days passing. And ready player one has this urgency of a race to get all the keys. Such a valuable lesson thanks Brandon! I will definitely put this in my writing.
Brandon Sanderson, Thank you for your generosity to share your experience and knowledge. You didn't have to, but you have a generous spirit. Thank you! Also, I love how you repeat the questions we can't hear from the audience. Wonderful teaching. gush gush gush
His hand writing has gotten much better since previous videos.
I noticed this too XD
The fact that this is free is just incredible. Props to you.
Yes, another one! these things are gold for aspiring writers such as myself. Thank you so much Brandon!
Same here. This feels good
I would also recommend Ellen Brock's channel (novel editor) as she also gives really concise practical advice, like Brandon.
Another channel is "film courage" in particular Corey Mandell and Alan Watt. Corey talks about the writer mindset and Alan talks about creating a dilemma and the steps that go along with that: reluctance, false hope, temptation, suffering, surrender and transformation (for arcs)
This is seriously amazing, and convinced me to keep writing. Thank you Brandon.
I'm attempting to rewrite the novel i wrote in high school (badly) and with my most recent rewrite of the outline I was struggling to figure out how to start. When I did, the first few paragraphs felt WRONG.
Now I know why, I wasn't making any promises as to what the reader should expect from me the author, the characters or the plot. I was just creating a scene without giving it a reason. This lecture was eye-opening. I can't wait to watch more.
I've heard that writers will often finish a book and just scrap the first chapter, replacing it with the second chapter. I would say just write, and then worry about fixing stuff in the edit.
In college, I've never spend much time in the classroom...guess, this would have been very different with Mr Sanderson as professor! Thank you so much for uploading this!!!
I've never heard a professor get applause. Brandon is a legend
Top work B dog. The world isnt ready for the shitty novel you are giving me the confidence to write.
🤣😂
Thank you so much for uploading this with subtitles. You're allowing foreign people that are not quite good in English (as I'm not) to learn.
Great teacher, imagine if ALL teachers were this passionate, our country would be in a better place.
"They kept waiting for the diversion to end. If you've ever been in a movie where you've been like I am SO BORED, even though exciting things are happening, cant they just get back to the main plot?
...
Canto Bight"
Love this man.
This is great. I sat glued to my computer and felt sad when you said we're out of time.
I've been meaning to watch these lectures for a year now and finally decided to sit down and watch, they absolutely fascinating and so informative. At 40 minutes in roughly when describing Inferno and the compelling progress of it, and how even though it is episodic it makes you read on like a thriller. for 20 years my favourite sci-fi book has been Use of Weapons by Iain M Banks, no matter what I can always power through it. I remember the first time I read it, once I found the chapters alternating between moving forward and counting down that I realised there was going to be some end point where both parts collide I couldn't put it down. This just made it clear to me why!
You just changed my life 7:10. Jim Butcher is my favorite author, and Codex Alera is my favorite series. I even have a tattoo with Codex Alera and the Dresden Files. Codex Alera got me back into reading; it was like breathing life itself after denying my own humanity. I don't think I can look at the books the same way now lol. When trying to get other people to read I always explained it more as Avatar the Last Air Bender, but fantasy.
I had the most amazing experience with Jim maybe 9 or 10 years ago. I sent him an email asking if he would say hello to a friend who was also a big fan. I honestly didn't think he would do it, a famous author and all probably doesn't have time for random fan emails. He sent the email saying hello, and did something so amazing to this day it makes me smile. He sent me an unedited first couple chapters of his 13th Dresden File book. I got to see the changes from when the book was actually published and that version. I always struggled with spelling, grammar, and bad hand writing; so to see that version really inspired me to write my own short stories. I still write to this day, but never actually finished a full story.
I cant believe this is free! What a world we live in
The first I ever saw of Brandon was him making a weird statement at a panel, then the other 3 members explaining why he was wrong. Then it was this series. I've been recommended Mistborn by a friend too, so I am a little apprehensive I know too much going on, but his story sound genuinely awesome and I love his approach to writing. It is very true that no one is an architect or gardener 100% either, everyone is on a scale and works differently- the key is learning how to manage and support how your creativity, passion and joy comes naturally.
Good to see the lights on the White-Board working. Good tools help in writing and presentations. 'insert smiley face'
This is the greatest thing new writers could watch. I would love to take this class just to be able to interact with the legend. The classmates at BYU are fortunate!
"let's talk about progress for a little bit, because this is the most important of them, I think."
Journey before destination, Radiant
Brandon makes me feel guilty for not reading more stories. It's as if these authors put their life's work into these projects, and I'm just letting all that effort go to waste.
Ikr?
I would love to read more books, but Brandon was my introduction into fantasy and I'm worried I won't find much that can top his works, especially the more recent ones.
Like you know when you find that thing that tastes so good that you'd be fine if you no longer tasted, knowing it peaked there? Yeah. That's how I feel when I read his latest books and especially some of the highlights in the books.
@@KrazyKyle-ij9vb There's plenty of current authors that match and surpass Sanderson's works in the fantasy genre. Joe Abercrombie, Steve Erikson, Brent Weeks, etc. I'd recommend exploring older fantasy works as well, especially if you want to write fantasy. You write what you read, and if you only read Sanderson you'll just be a much lesser version of him when you write. Cheers
@@starmorpheus facts
@@KrazyKyle-ij9vb I found Brandon Sanderson because I had finished reading Game of Thrones and so I started asking around for other epic fantasies.
can't fathom how anyone would dislike this. thank you for the knowledge. I'm grateful!
I learned SO much from listening to this. The main take away- the ability to organize and focus my thoughts. While I listened, I took notes. I fleshed out loose ideas for my characters and I replayed a couple parts to really understand. A light bulb turned on for me, I felt like I understood what to give attention to and what aspects would make my story worth reading. I randomly decided I liked writing not too long ago, and no one around me has any interest in reading. I didn't know who to talk to about what the writing process has been like for me. I feel a lot less like I'm struggling along by myself and more confident that my idea and my writing is going to be worth the effort. So thank you.
Thank you, Brandon. You are a legend for doing this.
The real payoff is the friends we made along the way.
Journey Before Destination
I feel like you’re joking but this is the truest thing ever. It could bring a tear to the eye it’s so true.
I love this. Love how you explains how Romance fits in as well. The umbrella plot, and then the romance is what you are actually here for. haha! So true
Thank you so much for uploading these classes online. Even though I'm not a writer or necessarily want to become one in the future, stories have fascinated me since I was a child and knowing about the ways writers set up to build them has always interested me.
Thank you kind Sir! Much respect for everyone involved in sharing this information valuable beyond belief.
Thanks Brandon I’ve been following your lectures since 2014 and I can’t thank you enough for giving this to us without a paywall
I am a programmer. Thank you for all of the programming references. (1:00:00-ish mark) I think you just helped me to understand plotting!
This professor is a gem. I wish to have someone like him as a professor, he really makes the class very interesting and outgoing.
I have absolutely zero interest in writing anything myself, but I really enjoy seeing someone at the top of a craft disect their art. Thanks for the wonderful stories you tell.
"And the this is the surprise I used for Mistborn-"
*"Requiem For A Tower" plays in the background as I frantically press every button BUT the mute button in an attempt to not be spoiled*
Bro you know that scene where Wayne
*400Hz beep*
It's an incredible honor to be able to listen to him on RUclips. My favorite author of all times. Thank you, Brandon, for existing in this world.
Such luck. I was just looking to rewatch the entire course videos (I watched the really old ones) and come to find a new higher quality version.
Thank you so much Brandon for offering these for free. I do enjoy my time on Masterclass, Skillshare, and other RUclipsrs. But these lectures are by far the most helpful I've ever heard.
Thank you for repeating the audience's questions, that's good lecturing form that tends to get forgotten easily.
I've always felt like anything and Pokemon would make an awesome book, especially in the arms of an experienced writer.
That Pokemon/Marley and Me mash up gonna ruin a lot of kids when it comes out.
It's Casablanca but with Pokémon!
@@gunnaryoung Remember the Butterfree episode?
Jim Butcher wrote a series based on a bet about mixing Pokemon with Ancient Rome. The series is called Codex Alera and it's one of the best 6 books I've ever read.
@@GluezCraft i hated it ay haha tried so hard to get into it but felt so rushed and strange tbh
It does not stop to amaze me how these things seem so simple when someone voices them out. And yes, not hiding it behind paywalls is a virtue. Thank you so much!
This is gold.
I've seen like 4-5 mastercalss courses and I guess there was only 1 good one (Dan Brown).
But the others didn't make me rethink/redesign stuff in my work to be better at all.
This 1 hour had me write up bounch of stuff on a note already.
Thanks!
Been watching a bunch of these and I'm actually astonished by how much of what is said are things I already do, this is like the 6th lecture I've watched now and it almost feels like review. Scary.
I just finished "Alloy of Law" and I can definitely see how the brainstorming process led to that story. "So, how about if The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. was mixed with an updated version of Mistborn?" Great book, can't wait to get into the 2nd and 3rd books. Bonus points for the 'Wax and Wayne' word play....
Scadrial doesn't have a move so it's even better.
i... cannot believe that wax and wayne as wordplay literally never dawned on me until this instant
I read that series. LOVED IT
@@Evilwizard637 Same here. Thanks, John!
Just so you know, there’ll be a 4th book in that series coming soon, according to Brandon. It’s not a trilogy, it’s more like a fun one-off (Alloy of Law) then a trilogy with the same characters (Shadows of Self, Bands of Mourning, The Lost Metal).
Haha at the very end when the class claps, Sanderson's surprised and says "aw thanks".
I really think it's amazing how he's teaching a class that changed his life, he's passing it forward.
This video was so helpful. Lately, I've been feeling frustration towards certain stories with their plotting and I realize it was because I felt the progress was diverting from the promise of the story.
Brandon, this is so generous of you to share this. I have studied craft for the past 10 years ("toiling away in obscurity hahah") and I still find everything you share here absolutely riveting and super helpful. Thank you thank you thank you!!
Toph Beifong is definitely an "iconic character."
This. Is. Writer's. GOLD!!! Thank you Brandon for your insight and generosity!!! You are our Hero!!!
I listen to these lectures with a Lord of the Rings soundtrack on in another tab! It adds a fun element to these already great vids. Thank you so much for releasing these!
Thank you for shouting out "While You Were Sleeping!" That's a wonderful story and a fantastic execution. It's a gem of a film and story.