I’ve been devout LDS my whole life, had a wonderful experience inside a Catholic church this summer while attending a baptism. I was completely struck by the beauty (LDS chapels are basically sterile inside I’ve come to realize) and now I’m currently in OCIA. 😊
@ Hey that’s awesome! No one knows I’m in OCIA, except for my husband (he left the lds faith 10 years ago but has come with me every week to support me and our kids) and I’m absolutely terrified to tell family about it. Mostly because I know it will devastate them and I don’t want to hurt them. Praying for some major courage right now, I’ve always been a people pleaser so this is extremely hard for me. Good luck on your journey 🙏🏻
@@rhyde0731just a thought… how about writing them a letter. Tell them everything you want to say because you might not have a chance again. Tell them WHY you are
My wife and I just went to our first TLM last night and then this was in my feed today! We loved it, there weren't many people there, so we had to look around a lot to know when to stand/kneel etc.
Welcome!! It makes me so happy to see comments of people attending the TLM for the first time. There's a great book by Tan Books "Latin Mass Explained". And another book by Marcel Lafebve "Letter to Confused Catholics". I ended up at the Latin mass by accident from putting the wrong address in my GPS one day. God's plan not mine!
Your explanation brought tears to my eyes as a convert to Catholicism 30 years ago. I couldn’t agree more about the richness of experience a Latin mass. I tell everyone it has to be what heaven is like.
Thank you for actually attending a TLM in person. I heard you mentioning online "tad"trads, and the truth about us is we're not really all that "rad" irl. The internet is a platform for getting a message out there, but nothing beats meeting people face to face and seeing what they're like as human individuals with families and work schedules, etc. There are internet trads who go overboard, and then there are those that paint us as schismatics - the truth is, as with everything else, not with either of those two extremes. the truth about us is that we're just people and the TLM is our mass. God bless.
I totally agree. And that the problem! The rad trads’ voices are just so much louder than everyone else. A humble traditionalist though, is not someone I would criticize.
The thing that strikes me very much at the TLM is the reverence and love of silence. It allows you to truly be still in the Lord and enter deeply into intimacy with him. Novus Ordo Rite is marked by constant noise and frenetic activity. I found at the TLM I can just be.
I wept harder then I knew was possible at my first Latin Mass. Took me completely by surprise but I knew I was home! Six months later I was received into the Church and since then have grown spiritually at a rate I could only have dreamt about previous. The Catholic Church is a powerhouse if you care about sanctification. It. Will. Change. Your. Life!
It’s my first time watching your channel and I also attend the traditional Latin mass. Thank you for verbalizing the experience of the wonder the awe of attending a TLM. The TLM truly is the beginning of a rich spiritual life, one which I did not have while attending the Novus Ordo. My prayers for you and your wife, that you will grow deeper in love and in union with Christ. PS: It would be a lovely to gift a beautiful Chapel Veil to your wife as her spouse! Ave Maria veils have some really well-made veils 😊
“Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof.. “ It is said at every traditional Latin Mass, as well as said at every ordinary mass a.k.a. Novas Ordo mass. That prayer is said in both types- At every mass
In the tlm we say it three time, "Domine non sum dignum ut intres sub tectum meum, sed tantum Dic verbum, et sanabitur anima mea." Which is " Lord I am not worthy that You Shall Enter under my roof, but only Say the word and my soul shall be healed" in novus ordo is slightly different
Welcome to Catholicism! If you ever come to Kansas please visit St Vincent or St Mary's. We would love to have you at our traditional mass. Read the book "Letter to Confused Catholics by Marcel Lefevbre. I am a convert and these churches completely changed my life. The people are so humble and kind.
@@BecomingCatholic Hello! I am writing because I see you are wanting to become Catholic and therefore it would be terrible if you were tricked into remaining Protestant by joining the SSPX. The SSPX is not Catholic, it is a new Protestant schism started a few decades ago by a rogue bishop named Lefebrve. People from the SSPX will try to tell you that they are not in schism, but the plain fact is that five popes in a row have referred to the "schism" of Lefebvre in various documents, and Lefebvre is excommunicated. The SSPX will also try to say that they are necessary somehow because they are preserving "The Latin Mass" (the 1962 missal.) The truth is that there are many groups within Catholicism such as the FSSP and ICKSP that celebrate the 1962 missal. These groups have no issue of schism or excommunication. In fact, the ICK met recently with The Pope and he encouraged them to continue growing and expanding their work. If you want to learn more about the history of all this, I recommend you look up the author John Salza on RUclips. Also, just so you know, that line you mentioned "Lord I am not worthy" is said in ALL Latin masses, not just the 1962 missal and I agree it is beautiful climax of the liturgy. Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum
And I get a lot more out of any Mass .. especially a TLM , by just watching and maybe reading along for the reading. And yes.. veiling is beautiful to see
I'm so glad you both had a positive experience at the TLM. Just in case you don't already know this. We veil that wh/ is precious and sacred. Think Holy of Holies, the tabernacle, and our ladies b/c of reverence for all that women are in the life of their families, parishes, & communities. They bring forth life, nurture life, give stability to life, engender a care for others, etc. Thus the woman is to be regarded as sacred by the man. The veil is there to remind us all of that. There is a great deal more to it but that's the high level explanation. I have always, ever since I can remember, loved the centurion's prayer. Kneeling next to my Dad as he praying that prayer, in a whisper and w/ all his heart, had a profound impact on my faith. One I will always be grateful for! You are in my prayers Pax Christi!
I also love going to Latin Mass. It is sacred to me as if you’re being transported in the foothills of the calvary during Jesus’ crucifixion. The silence of the mass is miracle to me that the time seems stop as you praise Jesus and the Almighty Father.
Veils by Lily. They are based in the U.S. and each veil is made with care and love. All of them are beautiful. I used to order them into Australia as i just couldn't find anything comparable within the country. Thank you for sharing your TLM Mass experience. Blessings to you and your family. Have a prayful advent and a thankful and joyous Christmas.
In the Latin Mass that you attended, there is one part that is always said in Greek and that is the part where we say “Lord have mercy, Christ have mercy ,Lord have mercy”. That part is always said in Greek..
Family and I attend a TLM parish in an inner-city area. Been attending for about two years! The TLM is SO reverent. It is basically a continuation of the Jewish faith. Welcome home!
I converted to the Church in 1998 from nominal evangelical Protestantism. I was in the Novus Ordo for almost 15 years before I was able to attend my first Traditional Latin Mass. I will be honest I was not overtaken by it at first. But I had many friends that were devotees and instructed me the the TLM is not something you attend once in a while and "get it." It's something you grow into. But once you do and attend diligently, it is very hard to go back to the Novus Ordo without being strick by the dramatic differences between the two. The Novus Ordo, save rare examples, is much more casual and Protestant to be frank. Many practices such as Holy Communion in the hand, female lectors/servers, modern music, etc. Are a jolt to the soul if you have immersed yourself inthe tradition of the Church. We also attend the Melkite Divine Liturgy which is my favorite of the Eastern Loturgiea. But you won't find the Novus Ordoisms there either.
But Jesus Christ is the same whether you attend NOVUS ORDO or TLM. He won't judge or condemn you whether you attend the Novus Ordo or TLM , Christ wants our hearts. MATHEW 5:8 - Jesus said "blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God".
@marymargarette4289 I was speaking from my personal experience and study of the development of the rites. The Eastern Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom and the Traditional Roman Rite (TLM) have developed from apostolic times. The Novus Ordo Missae was the creation by committee after Vatican II. It was a fabricated lituegy. It did not organically descend from Christ. It is valid and licit but lacks the other two qualities of Liturgy - fittingness and authenticity. That is why no polemicist for the new rite argues for the last two qualities of Liturgy. Only validity and licitness. If a person goes to NO and is happy, fine. I am not dissuading one from doing so. But in my experience and that of those that truly enter into the TLM it is hard to go back to NO. It seems like a step down.
@marymargarette4289 and yes, if a NO does the prayers properly Jesus is present. But too often in the NO it is done in a very poor, banal, boring, manner that does not conform with the teachings of the Church regarding music, theology, and tradition. Many if the modern practices implemented at the NO are contrary to our understanding and theology of Liturgy such as Mass versus populum (Protestant), Holy Communion standing and in the hand (Protestant), modern music (secular), new eucharistic prayers (modernism), lay (especially female) distributors Holy Communion (Protestant/secular feminism), total use of vernacular (Protestant), cheap vestments (1960s), etc. I have found the TLM is exclusively about God and re-presenting the Sacrifice of Calvary for the remission of sin. The priest is merely a minister. In the Novus Ordo the priest and congregation are the center. Ergo, the sing-song atmosphere with bad evangelical Christian tunes. Priests have to be fun and engaging because they are more in the focus in the Novus Ordo. The TLM is about God and Him alone. Not arguing but merely expressing why TLMers have a hard time going back to Novus Ordo and see all the abuse, banality, flippancy of it all. Granted there are places where Novus Orso is done very well, we have one here in Phoenix Diocese (St. Anne in Gilbert). But the priest used to celebrate the TLM and was planning on joining FSSP before he felt God was calling him to diocesan. Usually the best done Novus Ordo Masses are done by priest that have a great love for TLM as was Benedict XVI's point in liberating the Latin Mass.
@justinreany1514 Christ is the head of our Catholic church and the Church is the Body of Christ, He knows better than you; because Christ build His Church with the authority of heavenly Father and He gave the powers and authority through His Apostle Simon Peter also and it passes till now through the popes because the popes are the successors right from His Apostle which they continually preach the Kingdom of God and heal". Mathew 5:8 - Jesus said "blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God". Mathew 7:24 - Jesus said "every one then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house upon the rock. 26] and every one who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house upon the sand". Mathew 16:18 - Jesus said "you are Peter, and on this rock, I will build My Church and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. 19] I will give you the key of the Kingdom of heaven whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven". Luke 10:16 - Jesus said "he who hears you hears Me and he who rejects you rejects Me and he who rejects Me rejects him who sent Me". 22] "all things have been delivered to Me by My Father; and no one knows who the Son is except the Father or who Father is except the Son and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him". Mathew 15:18 - Jesus said "but what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart and this defiles a man. 19] for out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander". Mathew 18:3 - Jesus said "truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the Kingdom of heaven. 4] " whoever humbles himself like this child, he is the greatest in the Kingdom of heaven". John 6:47 - Jesus said "truly, truly, I say to you he who believes has eternal life". John 7:24 - "do not judge by appearances but judge with right judgement"
@justinreany1514 that is why Jesus said where is your faith. I think you love so much about the tradition Latin mass but you forget that the most precious is the body and blood of JESUS CHRIST only matters to feed our souls.
I went to Catholic sleep away camp and went to Mass daily, also Catholic school. Covering your head is in respect for women and a man removing a hat is respect.
The “pulpit “ is called an Ambo. That’s so great that you were able to go to the Latin mass. I’ve never been but I’d like to someday. The closest to me is in Toronto I believe and I’m an hour or two north. I do truly love the novus ordo though. We have a Father Joseph at my parish as well. He’s a Filipino and extremely conservative. Every time he begins his homily with “Some of you may not like what I’m about to say…”, I know I’m going to love it. 😅 I bought a veil as well. I still haven’t worked up the courage to wear it. There are some women at my parish that veil so I’m not sure why I’m hesitant. At my parish we all say together “Lord I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed”. You express yourself so well. I’m so invested in your journey. 😂 Catholicism is so rich, and beautiful. Looking forward to your next video.
I'm sure you will eventually find the courage to wear the veil. There's a wonderful youtube video called: The Chapel Veil. Several ladies discuss why they veil, and I found it inspirational. A short video but beautifully done. I"d definitely recommend it. I think I heard someone say somewhere, " we veil that which we love." I think that says a lot.
@@Sunshinelaura1 - There's no absolute need to wear a veil. It's optional private devotion. It's more important to trust Peter/the Pope. In any event I am not convinced it entirely fulfills it's purpose of getting women to stop thinking about their appearance and start thinking about God.
Thank you for sharing Laura! I didn’t know that! You should just do it! Even if you’re super uncomfortable the first time and it’s distracting. Once you’ve done it every mass after will be so much easier. Keep going!’
The Mass is in Latin but certain Greek and Hebrew words are retained untranslated, e.g., Alleluia, Hosannah, Sabaoth, Kyrie Eleison. This may be an apostolic tradition, as it is often done in other rites.
Domine,non sum dignus,ut intres sub tectum meum, sed tantum dic verbo, et sanabitur anima mea. Lord, I am not worthy that Thou shouldst enter under my roof, but only say the word, and my soul shall be healed. ... Centurion of Capharnaum, spoken by the priest as he is about to receive Holy Communion.
Pope St. Pius X said that the BEST way to spiritually participate at Holy Mass is to pray along with what the priest is saying i.e. read the missal and do the responses. But it's also ok for people to do devotional prayers like the rosary or go to confession etc just as long as they are present and aware when the time of consecration hits (which is one of the reasons why they ring the bell before consecration). Welcome home my brother:+) The TLM and Tradition are THE way to go:+) God bless~
my family raised in maronite, lebanese. Its a beautiful liturgy. coming to UK in 2007, we discovered the traditiional latin mass which I feel is superior, richer and a better prep for the holy sacrament.
Been to St Joseph...beautiful church. wondering if you went to a High Mass (Missa cantata)or a Low Mass. For someone not familiar with the latin mass, the low Mass is easier to follow. I go to an SSPX chapel in Nicholville NY. They have a small house church in Hudson Falls too. btw its Domine, non sum dignus ut intres sub tectum meum, sed tantum dic verbum, et sanabitur anima meum. Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldst enter under my roof; but only say the word, and my soul shall be healed.
Another thing to notice.. Is that the beginning of mass when the priest is saying the prayer of psalm 42 .. He asks God to show him the light. After the mass is ended- the priest reads the first part of the gospel of John.. Where God DOES send the light into the world. Kind of neat bookends Of the mass. This part of the gospel of John was added into the mass shortly after the council of Trent. It was something to do with countering a heresy about the divinity of God , Jesus , and the Holy Spirit from what I understand.
That church looks nice. If you like beautiful churches you should come visit the old continent :-) if you haven’t yet. Italy, France and Spain in particular, but also Britain, Bavaria, Portugal, etc.
There are extremely beautiful churches all over Poland that you could visit also. The altar in Saint Mary's Basilica in Krakow, Poland, where Saint John Paull II was, is the most beautiful altar that I have ever seen in my life!
Highly recommend checking out an Ordinariate Divine Worship Mass if you ever get the chance! Based on these last two videos, I think it’d fit you like a glove. 🙂
So glad to hear about your journey. You might also like to experience Holy Mass at the only Ordinariate parish in NY state, St Alban's in Rochester. The Ordinariate was instituted (at first) for former Anglicans and is based on the ancient Sarum liturgy developed in England before the Protestant Reformation with some of the customs and prayers brought over from Anglicanism, but all 100% approved by and acceptable to the Catholic Church. A simple google search about the Ordinariate will give you all the info you need to check it out. God bless.
My friend, the TLM is more than a "cool" liturgy, it is the closest we get to heaven while on this earth. Also, as a man I prefer the head coverings as well as it is less distracting. Some women show up to the Novus Ordo like it is a fashion show. Also, recieving our Lord Jesus kneeling on the tongue from the priest, just like Jesus told Peter to feed his sheep, beautiful. God bless you and your family.
@@michaelgardner835 I didn't say I was opposed to doing it that way. You didn't answer the question, however. You said Jesus told Peter to do it that way, but you can't back it up, because it isn't in the Bible.
Michael thank you for the comment. Betty, please offer Michael the assumption of good faith. He didn’t imply Jesus commanded Peter to feed them on the tongue and on their knees. He just said the Jesus told Peter to feed His sheep. Be kind.
I grew up Protestant and at this point in my life I ONLY attend a TLM. You expressed a lot of what I feel about the TLM. ECCLESIA means "community" so we must say Pater Noster....not Pater Meus.....when we pray in common.
Following along in a missal is a new thing brought in from protestantism many decades ago. Before that people kinda did what you described.. praying silently , rosaries, preparing for communion.. tjeres a video somewhere on this
TLM speaks to me more as well, however they don't have an RCIA program and so I have been attending a NO mass while I'm in the process of becoming Catholic. Ideally in the future I'd attend the TLM mass at least once a month and NO the rest of the time. (The TLM mass is also kind of far away so the time it takes to travel there and back is a concern.)
“Senhor, eu não sou digno de que entreis em minha morada, mas dizei uma só palavra e serei salvo”. Isso é dito comumente nas missas aqui no Brasil. O padre ainda acrescenta, muitas vezes: “Que o corpo de Cristo nos guarde para a vida eterna”, e a assembleia responde “amém”. Nossa Senhora da Conceição Aparecida, rogai por nós! 🇧🇷
In the United Kingdim a new liturgy was adopted a few years ago to make it more like the original TLM. It now includes .Lord I am not worthy that you enter under my roof but only say the word and my soul will be healed.
Catholic convert here. Began my conversion circa 2002, received my sacraments in 2009. Learned of the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM) in 2018 and transitioned to it fully that year. 0:58 There are different rites within the Catholic Church. Each one has its own liturgical and cultural distinctions. Us "westerners" mostly adhere to the Roman Rite. The Maronite Rite is another one. 1:02 Ironically, right now I happen to be researching ancestors of the spouse of one of my relatives... they lived mostly in Rensselaer and Albany Counties, and some of them were communicants at St. Joseph's! 3:11 Catholic parish churches and chapels were originally designed to be "heaven on Earth". Bad clergy have permitted deviations from that concept since the Second Vatican Council. 🤨 3:35 Each Catholic parish church or chapel has its own lighting peculiarities and practices, whether TLM or Novus Ordo Mass (NOM). 4:30 The standing, kneeling, genuflecting, praying, singing, offertory collections, reception of Holy Communion and altar server duties ARE the laity's participation. The additional participations that are seen in Novus Ordo Masses (e.g. "Eucharistic ministers", girls serving as altar servers, women doing ANYTHING in the sanctuary) are liturgical abuses that shouldn't happen. 7:00 Remember that non-Catholics have been maligning Catholics - and especially Catholic clergy - for hundreds of years. 8:25 Yeah, kids are supposed to be conceived after the marriage. The priest was poking the betrothed for doing things in reverse. The whole kids-before-marriage phenomenon seems to be a thing in Democratic states and counties. 9:48 That practice is called veiling. The basis for it is in 1 Corinthians 11. 11:40 Amazon and Etsy support various things that violate traditional Catholic teaching. 12:00 Just like Catholic church/chapel architecture is supposed to be "heaven on Earth", the same applies to Catholic liturgical music. There are strict guidelines for composing liturgical music, which have been completely ignored since the Second Vatican Council. Most of the "liturgical" music heard in most Novus Ordo Masses violates the aforementioned guidelines. 13:26 You hit the nail on the head. Protestantism wrongly emphasizes the "personal relationship" between Christ and the disciple, which sets up the disciple to "be his own pope". The (orthodox wing of the) Catholic Church rightly balances the personal relationship with the communal relationship, because the communal relationship is the relationship between Christ and His church (the Catholic Church), orienting the disciple toward obedience to the earthly head of that relationship, which is the papacy that Christ Himself established. 16:56 You're talking about what the near-Catholic Protestants call the Prayer of Humble Access. It comes from Matthew 8:8. The Prayer of Humble Access that some Protestants say has different and longer text but has the same intent. Here are the English and Latin versions of the Catholic prayer; the English is a literal translation of the Latin: * Lord, I am not worthy that You should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed. * Domine, non sum dignus ut intres sub tectum meum, sed tantum dic verbo et sanabitur anima mea.
Wow thank you so much for taking the time to comb through the video and respond! I really appreciate it! There really is so much to appreciate about the TLM!
Es muy difícil encontrar lugares donde hagan Misas en latín en mi país. Al menos en la región donde vivo, sólo hay Misa en español. Sería muy lindo ir un día a una en latín. ❤
Oh and you should definitely learn Latin. Very important for a variety of reasons. You should know there are also non trad (Vatican 2) Gregorian chant Latin masses. Here in France at least but probably in the US too. I like your content, keep it up.
While I do prefer the TLM and I have my gripes with the liberal NO masses I’ve been to, V2 really isn’t so bad. It’s just been abused by liberal and cruddy priests and laity.
I understand coming from a Protestant background. That it may baffle some folks when they come into contact with some Catholic priests who are perhaps a little bit shy and introverted, or maybe even a little bit standoffish or cold. But I think we have to take into consideration several factors. 1) All priests will always have their individual personality no matter their vocation. 2) It's possible some have become closed off and jaded or even bitter. But we have to take into consideration that this vocation is incredibly demanding and self-sacrificing. So, it will trample their hearts and their spirits from time-to-time, and I think we have to take that into consideration and give them some grace. And 3) Yes, there are some priests who are incredibly enthusiastic and they can draw many people to them and to the church. But! By and large - and this coming from a cradle Catholic - we're simply not a very in your face kind of people when it comes to proclaiming our faith. Because we trust and believe that God can and will bring others to Him. So, there's no need to be a pushover or to be forceful with our faith. If a person's enthusiasm is genuine than that is felt, but if it fake, than that is felt too. Personally, I prefer the quiet stoicism of our faith because that is the *peace* that our Lord gives to us. And that is what I am going for and receiving after every mass, or after a novena, or after Eucharist Adoration. I want the calm tranquility of our Lord, so that I can make good and objective and balanced decisions in my every day-to-day life. Because *peace* is what allows us to make rational and calm decisions. But fear and anxiety is what makes us make awful and rash decisions. So, I just wanted go share my two cents. I think no matter a person's Christian affiliation, if they have Christ in them, then others can sense and feel the spark of the divine in them. So, there's no need to ever overdo it.
POPE BENEDICT XVI: “God wants your friendship. And once you enter into friendship with God, everything in your life begins to change. As you come to know him better, you will find you want to reflect something of his infinite goodness in your own life. You become attracted to the practice of virtue. You begin to see greed and selfishness and all the other sins for what they really are, destructive and dangerous tendencies that cause deep suffering and do greater damage, and you want to avoid falling into that trap yourselves. You begin to feel compassion for people in difficulties and you are eager to do something to help them. You want to come to the aid of the poor and the hungry, you want to comfort the sorrowful, you want to be kind and generous. And once these things begin to matter to you, you are well on the way to becoming saints”
At 15:00 you sounded very Protestant but you're getting there. Visit an SSPX Chapel some time, even if it's a long drive for you. One of the reasons why Latin is so wonderful is that it is a dead language. Dead Languages do not change.
Just to clarify at min 4:50 : Its the same Sacrifice, but an unbloody Sacrifice. So Jesus is not “on the Cross” again, and its not the same bloody sacrificed manifest at a different time (or else it would still be bloody but you couldn’t see it) instead, it’s a memorial Sacrifice. That is our Glorified Risen Lord on the Alter. Father Thomas Crean O.P had a great article on this called “The Mass as an actual sacrifice in Catholic Tradition.“
I speak French and it only gets you so far, also some of the prayers are whispered by the priest, he's worshipping and offering to God so it isn't about us even understanding it
@atrifle8364 latin is a sacred language uncorrupted *by modernity and it's been the language of the western rites forever, the Mass in the extraordinary form is like stepping into another time and place it's beautiful
The Latin Mass is not just about doing the ancient language. The liturgy is over 1500 years old, and there a lot of prayers that have been changed or omitted in the new mass. @@atrifle8364
stranger yet is the hostility towards the Traditional liturgy. It's not the language but the orientation towards contemplative worship and the reverence, be it the silent Low Mass, or chanted High Mass.
Praying a rosary at Mass is part of the reason they changed "Traditional Latin Mass". (It's really the Missal of 1962, by the way). What you did to pay attention at the Mass was correct. That's why the current missal is in the vernacular. Priests are like humanity, imperfect in all the usual ways.
That's not true. You are lying. The real reason why they implemented new mass is because the ll Vatican Council was dominated by modernist experts. New Mass reflects their new teachings.
I don't understand which difference you see at the moment of Communion with the renovated Mass. We always say: Lord, I am not worthy... Yeah. When you look back at the Traditional Mass it would happen to you what happened to the wife of Lot: you will be petrified, stuck in the past, close to the renewal that the Holy Spirit wants to work in the Church like in Pentecost, when he descended in the figure of fire to renew all things and make us sing the praises of God in all the languages of the earth. The II Vatican Council was like a new Pentecost for the Church and the liturgy which it asked to be renewed is not anymore a spectacle which we attend, but a worship where we all participate and God is praised in all the languages
In my Diocese we frequently have what I call the Tower of Babel mass. Why have one vernacular when you can have bilingual, trilingual or multi-lingual masses. It’s Mass confusion.
If you are converting to the experience of the "Traditional Latin Mass" that's not a conversion to Catholicism. It's a conversion to an experience. The Cross was not pretty. There's nothing wrong with liking the liturgy itself and loving beauty. However, if you can't sit in the pews with the vast majority of Catholics in the US, that's a long term issue.
I really appreciate this comment. Thank you. Even though I don’t necessarily struggle with radical traditionalism, it does poke its evil head out now and again. You’ll be happy to learn though that the TLM is not what I’m converting to or for. I do sometimes find it difficult to sit through mass when it seems particularly irreverent, but I stay so long as the consecration is valid because it means the sacrifice of our Blessed Lord is re-presented and He is really in the room.
Explain. Because it sounds like hes’s exploring and learning what has been for 2,000 years, instead of what modernists have created in the last 500 years.
“Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.” I attend a Novus Ordo. Done at Ad orientium. We repeat this as well. But i also attend an FSSP during the week.
Hello, I am happy every time I see a protestant returning to Catholicism, I always thank God because their minds have finally been enlightened. By the way, about the veil for your wife, if you are married, it should be black or even cream, if you are still single, it should be white. But it is also up to you what color veil you want to wear. May god bless you and your whole family.❤️
Ya know as a Mexican American, what you call “Latin Mass” to me is “slightly older Spanish Mass” 🫶🏻😌😂 If you go to Spanish Mass, even tho we don’t do the same rituals as the Latin Mass, it still feels like Holier than English Mass because Spanish Mass is closer to the “divine” language. However, I’ve also attended Mass in French, Italian, Greek & Arabic. Basically, the older Holy Languages of Greek (Istanbul), Arabic(Jerusalem), Aramaic (Antioch), Coptic (Alexandria), & Latin (Rome) have what feel is the “true” divine language because these are the Church Jesus via the Apostles established the 5 Patriarchs of our Mother Church. I do recommend attending Mass in the divine languages. I did in the old cathedrals of the Middle East & Europe. Truly made me a believer after years of doubting my faith.
I’ve been devout LDS my whole life, had a wonderful experience inside a Catholic church this summer while attending a baptism. I was completely struck by the beauty (LDS chapels are basically sterile inside I’ve come to realize) and now I’m currently in OCIA. 😊
I’m also in OCIA, converting from Mormonism!
@ Hey that’s awesome! No one knows I’m in OCIA, except for my husband (he left the lds faith 10 years ago but has come with me every week to support me and our kids) and I’m absolutely terrified to tell family about it. Mostly because I know it will devastate them and I don’t want to hurt them. Praying for some major courage right now, I’ve always been a people pleaser so this is extremely hard for me. Good luck on your journey 🙏🏻
Congratulations to you and to everyone else entering the church this Easter! 👋✨
@@rhyde0731just a thought… how about writing them a letter. Tell them everything you want to say because you might not have a chance again. Tell them WHY you are
@@helensmall3384 thank you I may have to consider writing a letter 💜
TLM all the way! It is growing like wild fire, tons of young people.
@@michaelgardner835 Now if we could only get PF and his friends to see that!
My wife and I just went to our first TLM last night and then this was in my feed today!
We loved it, there weren't many people there, so we had to look around a lot to know when to stand/kneel etc.
Welcome!! It makes me so happy to see comments of people attending the TLM for the first time. There's a great book by Tan Books "Latin Mass Explained". And another book by Marcel Lafebve "Letter to Confused Catholics". I ended up at the Latin mass by accident from putting the wrong address in my GPS one day. God's plan not mine!
Woah praise God! That’s awesome!
Welcome to the Catholic Church.
Thank you!
Your explanation brought tears to my eyes as a convert to Catholicism 30 years ago. I couldn’t agree more about the richness of experience a Latin mass. I tell everyone it has to be what heaven is like.
It’s certainly not far off!
Thank you for actually attending a TLM in person. I heard you mentioning online "tad"trads, and the truth about us is we're not really all that "rad" irl. The internet is a platform for getting a message out there, but nothing beats meeting people face to face and seeing what they're like as human individuals with families and work schedules, etc. There are internet trads who go overboard, and then there are those that paint us as schismatics - the truth is, as with everything else, not with either of those two extremes. the truth about us is that we're just people and the TLM is our mass.
God bless.
I totally agree. And that the problem! The rad trads’ voices are just so much louder than everyone else. A humble traditionalist though, is not someone I would criticize.
The thing that strikes me very much at the TLM is the reverence and love of silence. It allows you to truly be still in the Lord and enter deeply into intimacy with him. Novus Ordo Rite is marked by constant noise and frenetic activity. I found at the TLM I can just be.
I wept harder then I knew was possible at my first Latin Mass. Took me completely by surprise but I knew I was home! Six months later I was received into the Church and since then have grown spiritually at a rate I could only have dreamt about previous. The Catholic Church is a powerhouse if you care about sanctification. It. Will. Change. Your. Life!
Wow what a powerful experience! And yes I’ve definitely found Catholicism is a catalyst for spiritual growth.
It’s my first time watching your channel and I also attend the traditional Latin mass. Thank you for verbalizing the experience of the wonder the awe of attending a TLM. The TLM truly is the beginning of a rich spiritual life, one which I did not have while attending the Novus Ordo. My prayers for you and your wife, that you will grow deeper in love and in union with Christ.
PS: It would be a lovely to gift a beautiful Chapel Veil to your wife as her spouse! Ave Maria veils have some really well-made veils 😊
Thank you so much for the encouragement and the nice idea!
“Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof.. “ It is said at every traditional Latin Mass, as well as said at every ordinary mass a.k.a. Novas Ordo mass. That prayer is said in both types- At every mass
In the tlm we say it three time, "Domine non sum dignum ut intres sub tectum meum, sed tantum Dic verbum, et sanabitur anima mea." Which is " Lord I am not worthy that You Shall Enter under my roof, but only Say the word and my soul shall be healed" in novus ordo is slightly different
Welcome to Catholicism! If you ever come to Kansas please visit St Vincent or St Mary's. We would love to have you at our traditional mass. Read the book "Letter to Confused Catholics by Marcel Lefevbre. I am a convert and these churches completely changed my life. The people are so humble and kind.
I will keep this is in mind and I’ll be sure to visit if I’m ever in the area!
@@BecomingCatholic
Hello! I am writing because I see you are wanting to become Catholic and therefore it would be terrible if you were tricked into remaining Protestant by joining the SSPX. The SSPX is not Catholic, it is a new Protestant schism started a few decades ago by a rogue bishop named Lefebrve.
People from the SSPX will try to tell you that they are not in schism, but the plain fact is that five popes in a row have referred to the "schism" of Lefebvre in various documents, and Lefebvre is excommunicated.
The SSPX will also try to say that they are necessary somehow because they are preserving "The Latin Mass" (the 1962 missal.) The truth is that there are many groups within Catholicism such as the FSSP and ICKSP that celebrate the 1962 missal. These groups have no issue of schism or excommunication. In fact, the ICK met recently with The Pope and he encouraged them to continue growing and expanding their work.
If you want to learn more about the history of all this, I recommend you look up the author John Salza on RUclips.
Also, just so you know, that line you mentioned "Lord I am not worthy" is said in ALL Latin masses, not just the 1962 missal and I agree it is beautiful climax of the liturgy.
Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum
And I get a lot more out of any Mass .. especially a TLM , by just watching and maybe reading along for the reading. And yes.. veiling is beautiful to see
May God’s blessings upon you and your wife be so profound and life-altering 🙏
Amen! Thank you.
Domine non sum dignus, ut intres sub tectum mean. Sed tantum dic verbo sanabitur anima mea. Deo gratias!
That’s it!!
I'm so glad you both had a positive experience at the TLM. Just in case you don't already know this. We veil that wh/ is precious and sacred. Think Holy of Holies, the tabernacle, and our ladies b/c of reverence for all that women are in the life of their families, parishes, & communities. They bring forth life, nurture life, give stability to life, engender a care for others, etc. Thus the woman is to be regarded as sacred by the man. The veil is there to remind us all of that. There is a great deal more to it but that's the high level explanation.
I have always, ever since I can remember, loved the centurion's prayer. Kneeling next to my Dad as he praying that prayer, in a whisper and w/ all his heart, had a profound impact on my faith. One I will always be grateful for! You are in my prayers
Pax Christi!
That’s beautiful! Thank you for sharing, I won’t forget this story 😊
I love videos of people discovering the Latin Mass for the first time. This has to be the best one I've ever seen. So well articulated.
Thank you so much for the kind words! Feel free to share links to other videos in these comments so others can watch them as well!
Thank you for sharing your experience. Great to hear.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I also love going to Latin Mass. It is sacred to me as if you’re being transported in the foothills of the calvary during Jesus’ crucifixion. The silence of the mass is miracle to me that the time seems stop as you praise Jesus and the Almighty Father.
Welcome to the Catholic Church! Will keep you and your wife in our family rosary. ❤
Wow thank you so much!
Welcome home our brother and sister in Christ.
Tenete Traditiones,
God bless.
Veils by Lily. They are based in the U.S. and each veil is made with care and love. All of them are beautiful. I used to order them into Australia as i just couldn't find anything comparable within the country. Thank you for sharing your TLM Mass experience. Blessings to you and your family. Have a prayful advent and a thankful and joyous Christmas.
Thank you so much for the recommendation!
There is a book called "the Latin Mass Explained" by George Moorman,which explains all of the rubrics. It is eye opening and incredibly fascinating.
In the Latin Mass that you attended, there is one part that is always said in Greek and that is the part where we say “Lord have mercy, Christ have mercy ,Lord have mercy”. That part is always said in Greek..
Family and I attend a TLM parish in an inner-city area. Been attending for about two years!
The TLM is SO reverent. It is basically a continuation of the Jewish faith.
Welcome home!
That’s awesome! And yes it certainly is!
I love the big dark catherdrals w/lots of stained glass! I love the small contemporary light church i go to now though also.
When God asked for altars, offerings and the ark of the covenant He asked for so much gold and the best fabrics and spices 💙
Praying for the Restoration of Traditional Latin Mass.
God bless The SSPX
Amen! Went from Protestant to Catholic to TLM and now at the SSPX. What a wild ride and so thankful for Bishop Lefebvre
I converted to the Church in 1998 from nominal evangelical Protestantism. I was in the Novus Ordo for almost 15 years before I was able to attend my first Traditional Latin Mass. I will be honest I was not overtaken by it at first. But I had many friends that were devotees and instructed me the the TLM is not something you attend once in a while and "get it." It's something you grow into. But once you do and attend diligently, it is very hard to go back to the Novus Ordo without being strick by the dramatic differences between the two. The Novus Ordo, save rare examples, is much more casual and Protestant to be frank. Many practices such as Holy Communion in the hand, female lectors/servers, modern music, etc. Are a jolt to the soul if you have immersed yourself inthe tradition of the Church. We also attend the Melkite Divine Liturgy which is my favorite of the Eastern Loturgiea. But you won't find the Novus Ordoisms there either.
But Jesus Christ is the same whether you attend NOVUS ORDO or TLM. He won't judge or condemn you whether you attend the Novus Ordo or TLM , Christ wants our hearts.
MATHEW 5:8 - Jesus said "blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God".
@marymargarette4289 I was speaking from my personal experience and study of the development of the rites. The Eastern Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom and the Traditional Roman Rite (TLM) have developed from apostolic times. The Novus Ordo Missae was the creation by committee after Vatican II. It was a fabricated lituegy. It did not organically descend from Christ. It is valid and licit but lacks the other two qualities of Liturgy - fittingness and authenticity. That is why no polemicist for the new rite argues for the last two qualities of Liturgy. Only validity and licitness. If a person goes to NO and is happy, fine. I am not dissuading one from doing so. But in my experience and that of those that truly enter into the TLM it is hard to go back to NO. It seems like a step down.
@marymargarette4289 and yes, if a NO does the prayers properly Jesus is present. But too often in the NO it is done in a very poor, banal, boring, manner that does not conform with the teachings of the Church regarding music, theology, and tradition. Many if the modern practices implemented at the NO are contrary to our understanding and theology of Liturgy such as Mass versus populum (Protestant), Holy Communion standing and in the hand (Protestant), modern music (secular), new eucharistic prayers (modernism), lay (especially female) distributors Holy Communion (Protestant/secular feminism), total use of vernacular (Protestant), cheap vestments (1960s), etc. I have found the TLM is exclusively about God and re-presenting the Sacrifice of Calvary for the remission of sin. The priest is merely a minister. In the Novus Ordo the priest and congregation are the center. Ergo, the sing-song atmosphere with bad evangelical Christian tunes. Priests have to be fun and engaging because they are more in the focus in the Novus Ordo. The TLM is about God and Him alone. Not arguing but merely expressing why TLMers have a hard time going back to Novus Ordo and see all the abuse, banality, flippancy of it all. Granted there are places where Novus Orso is done very well, we have one here in Phoenix Diocese (St. Anne in Gilbert). But the priest used to celebrate the TLM and was planning on joining FSSP before he felt God was calling him to diocesan. Usually the best done Novus Ordo Masses are done by priest that have a great love for TLM as was Benedict XVI's point in liberating the Latin Mass.
@justinreany1514
Christ is the head of our Catholic church and the Church is the Body of Christ, He knows better than you; because Christ build His Church with the authority of heavenly Father and He gave the powers and authority through His Apostle Simon Peter also and it passes till now through the popes because the popes are the successors right from His Apostle which they continually preach the Kingdom of God and heal".
Mathew 5:8 - Jesus said "blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God".
Mathew 7:24 - Jesus said "every one then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house upon the rock. 26] and every one who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house upon the sand".
Mathew 16:18 - Jesus said "you are Peter, and on this rock, I will build My Church and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. 19] I will give you the key of the Kingdom of heaven whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven".
Luke 10:16 - Jesus said "he who hears you hears Me and he who rejects you rejects Me and he who rejects Me rejects him who sent Me". 22] "all things have been delivered to Me by My Father; and no one knows who the Son is except the Father or who Father is except the Son and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him".
Mathew 15:18 - Jesus said "but what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart and this defiles a man. 19] for out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander".
Mathew 18:3 - Jesus said "truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the Kingdom of heaven. 4] " whoever humbles himself like this child, he is the greatest in the Kingdom of heaven".
John 6:47 - Jesus said "truly, truly, I say to you he who believes has eternal life".
John 7:24 - "do not judge by appearances but judge with right judgement"
@justinreany1514 that is why Jesus said where is your faith.
I think you love so much about the tradition Latin mass but you forget that the most precious is the body and blood of JESUS CHRIST only matters to feed our souls.
I went to Catholic sleep away camp and went to Mass daily, also Catholic school. Covering your head is in respect for women and a man removing a hat is respect.
The 1962 Missal has the Latin and English translation next to it so you can follow along with it.
Awesome “testimony “. I hope you enjoy your journey with us in the Holy Catholic Church.
The “pulpit “ is called an Ambo. That’s so great that you were able to go to the Latin mass. I’ve never been but I’d like to someday. The closest to me is in Toronto I believe and I’m an hour or two north. I do truly love the novus ordo though.
We have a Father Joseph at my parish as well. He’s a Filipino and extremely conservative. Every time he begins his homily with “Some of you may not like what I’m about to say…”, I know I’m going to love it. 😅
I bought a veil as well. I still haven’t worked up the courage to wear it. There are some women at my parish that veil so I’m not sure why I’m hesitant.
At my parish we all say together “Lord I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed”.
You express yourself so well. I’m so invested in your journey. 😂 Catholicism is so rich, and beautiful.
Looking forward to your next video.
I'm sure you will eventually find the courage to wear the veil. There's a wonderful youtube video called: The Chapel Veil. Several ladies discuss why they veil, and I found it inspirational. A short video but beautifully done. I"d definitely recommend it. I think I heard someone say somewhere, " we veil that which we love." I think that says a lot.
@ Thank you! I will watch that video. 😊
@@Sunshinelaura1 - There's no absolute need to wear a veil. It's optional private devotion. It's more important to trust Peter/the Pope. In any event I am not convinced it entirely fulfills it's purpose of getting women to stop thinking about their appearance and start thinking about God.
Thank you for sharing Laura! I didn’t know that!
You should just do it! Even if you’re super uncomfortable the first time and it’s distracting. Once you’ve done it every mass after will be so much easier.
Keep going!’
The Mass is in Latin but certain Greek and Hebrew words are retained untranslated, e.g., Alleluia, Hosannah, Sabaoth, Kyrie Eleison. This may be an apostolic tradition, as it is often done in other rites.
Before I became a parishioner at the chapel near my home, I attended the TLM and the Carmelite liturgy at St. Joseph's.
Welcome to the Catholic church
That's amazing news. I suggest that you do the Consecration to St Joseph by Fr Calloway.
Thanks for the recommendation!
Domine,non sum dignus,ut intres sub tectum meum, sed tantum dic verbo, et sanabitur anima mea.
Lord, I am not worthy that Thou shouldst enter under my roof, but only say the word, and my soul shall be healed. ...
Centurion of Capharnaum, spoken by the priest as he is about to receive Holy Communion.
When I was a young girl the Mass was in Latin!
That church reminds me of St. Rose Of Lima in Brooklyn NY with all the marble
Pope St. Pius X said that the BEST way to spiritually participate at Holy Mass is to pray along with what the priest is saying i.e. read the missal and do the responses. But it's also ok for people to do devotional prayers like the rosary or go to confession etc just as long as they are present and aware when the time of consecration hits (which is one of the reasons why they ring the bell before consecration). Welcome home my brother:+) The TLM and Tradition are THE way to go:+) God bless~
I didn’t know some of that! Thank you for sharing!
God Bless you ✝️❤️
Amen. You too.
my family raised in maronite, lebanese. Its a beautiful liturgy. coming to UK in 2007, we discovered the traditiional latin mass which I feel is superior, richer and a better prep for the holy sacrament.
Thank you for sharing your perspective! Really insightful!
Thank you for sharing.
My pleasure! Thank you for watching!
Been to St Joseph...beautiful church. wondering if you went to a High Mass (Missa cantata)or a Low Mass. For someone not familiar with the latin mass, the low Mass is easier to follow. I go to an SSPX chapel in Nicholville NY. They have a small house church in Hudson Falls too. btw its
Domine, non sum dignus
ut intres sub tectum meum,
sed tantum dic verbum,
et sanabitur anima meum.
Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldst enter under my roof; but only say the word, and my soul shall be healed.
Oh so cool! Thank you for sharing! I haven’t been to an SSPX yet!
Another thing to notice.. Is that the beginning of mass when the priest is saying the prayer of psalm 42 .. He asks God to show him the light. After the mass is ended- the priest reads the first part of the gospel of John.. Where God DOES send the light into the world. Kind of neat bookends Of the mass. This part of the gospel of John was added into the mass shortly after the council of Trent. It was something to do with countering a heresy about the divinity of God , Jesus , and the Holy Spirit from what I understand.
AND it is in one of the languages OVER his head at his sacrifice. The connection through time is profound.
I never thought of that! That’s awesome!
That church looks nice. If you like beautiful churches you should come visit the old continent :-) if you haven’t yet. Italy, France and Spain in particular, but also Britain, Bavaria, Portugal, etc.
There are extremely beautiful churches all over Poland that you could visit also. The altar in Saint Mary's Basilica in Krakow, Poland, where Saint John Paull II was, is the most beautiful altar that I have ever seen in my life!
I’d love to someday! I hope the Lord will make it happen!
Highly recommend checking out an Ordinariate Divine Worship Mass if you ever get the chance! Based on these last two videos, I think it’d fit you like a glove. 🙂
I’d really love to go! I will certainly take the opportunity if it came my way!
A M E N... "Our GOD is the MOST BEAUTIFUL GOD!!!" 😌🙏📿❤️🔥✝️👑📖💒⚖️👼🕊
God bless you and your family 😊
Thank you! You as well!!
So glad to hear about your journey. You might also like to experience Holy Mass at the only Ordinariate parish in NY state, St Alban's in Rochester. The Ordinariate was instituted (at first) for former Anglicans and is based on the ancient Sarum liturgy developed in England before the Protestant Reformation with some of the customs and prayers brought over from Anglicanism, but all 100% approved by and acceptable to the Catholic Church. A simple google search about the Ordinariate will give you all the info you need to check it out. God bless.
I would love to go to an Ordinariate. If I’m ever in that area I’ll be sure to attend there!
My friend, the TLM is more than a "cool" liturgy, it is the closest we get to heaven while on this earth. Also, as a man I prefer the head coverings as well as it is less distracting. Some women show up to the Novus Ordo like it is a fashion show. Also, recieving our Lord Jesus kneeling on the tongue from the priest, just like Jesus told Peter to feed his sheep, beautiful. God bless you and your family.
Where did Jesus tell Peter to feed people on their tongues, while they were kneeling in front of him?
How else would one recieve the Jesus in the Eucharist? He is God and we are sheep, kneeling is the most beautiful and reverent way. God bless.
@@michaelgardner835 I didn't say I was opposed to doing it that way. You didn't answer the question, however. You said Jesus told Peter to do it that way, but you can't back it up, because it isn't in the Bible.
Michael thank you for the comment. Betty, please offer Michael the assumption of good faith. He didn’t imply Jesus commanded Peter to feed them on the tongue and on their knees. He just said the Jesus told Peter to feed His sheep. Be kind.
I grew up Protestant and at this point in my life I ONLY attend a TLM. You expressed a lot of what I feel about the TLM. ECCLESIA means "community" so we must say Pater Noster....not Pater Meus.....when we pray in common.
Following along in a missal is a new thing brought in from protestantism many decades ago. Before that people kinda did what you described.. praying silently , rosaries, preparing for communion.. tjeres a video somewhere on this
No :). Many Popes like St Pius X recommended using the Missal to actively participate in the Mass
16:55 “Domine, non sum dignus ut intres sub tectum meum sed tantum dic verbo et sanabitur anima mea.”
This prayer is also there in Novus Ordo
@ it is.
It is, but not 3 times. I’m a big fan of the repetition, it helps to reflect on what’s happening.
TLM speaks to me more as well, however they don't have an RCIA program and so I have been attending a NO mass while I'm in the process of becoming Catholic.
Ideally in the future I'd attend the TLM mass at least once a month and NO the rest of the time. (The TLM mass is also kind of far away so the time it takes to travel there and back is a concern.)
I definitely understand the difficulty of having the church you prefer be a little too far away
“Senhor, eu não sou digno de que entreis em minha morada, mas dizei uma só palavra e serei salvo”. Isso é dito comumente nas missas aqui no Brasil. O padre ainda acrescenta, muitas vezes: “Que o corpo de Cristo nos guarde para a vida eterna”, e a assembleia responde “amém”. Nossa Senhora da Conceição Aparecida, rogai por nós! 🇧🇷
Beautiful! Thank you for sharing!
In the United Kingdim a new liturgy was adopted a few years ago to make it more like the original TLM. It now includes .Lord I am not worthy that you enter under my roof but only say the word and my soul will be healed.
Matthew 8: 5-13
The current missal of the Roman Rite says that as long as I can remember. All the faithful say it and have said it for decades in the Novus Ordo.
Welcome home
Thank you!
I go to mass in French.
Would you be impressed by that?
What's all the fuss about Latin anyway?
It’s unchanged for centuries.. not changing of meaning of words.
lol this is a funny comment. But there is something cool about going to the same exact Mass SO MANY of the saints of old went to
Catholic convert here. Began my conversion circa 2002, received my sacraments in 2009. Learned of the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM) in 2018 and transitioned to it fully that year.
0:58 There are different rites within the Catholic Church. Each one has its own liturgical and cultural distinctions. Us "westerners" mostly adhere to the Roman Rite. The Maronite Rite is another one.
1:02 Ironically, right now I happen to be researching ancestors of the spouse of one of my relatives... they lived mostly in Rensselaer and Albany Counties, and some of them were communicants at St. Joseph's!
3:11 Catholic parish churches and chapels were originally designed to be "heaven on Earth". Bad clergy have permitted deviations from that concept since the Second Vatican Council. 🤨
3:35 Each Catholic parish church or chapel has its own lighting peculiarities and practices, whether TLM or Novus Ordo Mass (NOM).
4:30 The standing, kneeling, genuflecting, praying, singing, offertory collections, reception of Holy Communion and altar server duties ARE the laity's participation. The additional participations that are seen in Novus Ordo Masses (e.g. "Eucharistic ministers", girls serving as altar servers, women doing ANYTHING in the sanctuary) are liturgical abuses that shouldn't happen.
7:00 Remember that non-Catholics have been maligning Catholics - and especially Catholic clergy - for hundreds of years.
8:25 Yeah, kids are supposed to be conceived after the marriage. The priest was poking the betrothed for doing things in reverse. The whole kids-before-marriage phenomenon seems to be a thing in Democratic states and counties.
9:48 That practice is called veiling. The basis for it is in 1 Corinthians 11.
11:40 Amazon and Etsy support various things that violate traditional Catholic teaching.
12:00 Just like Catholic church/chapel architecture is supposed to be "heaven on Earth", the same applies to Catholic liturgical music. There are strict guidelines for composing liturgical music, which have been completely ignored since the Second Vatican Council. Most of the "liturgical" music heard in most Novus Ordo Masses violates the aforementioned guidelines.
13:26 You hit the nail on the head. Protestantism wrongly emphasizes the "personal relationship" between Christ and the disciple, which sets up the disciple to "be his own pope". The (orthodox wing of the) Catholic Church rightly balances the personal relationship with the communal relationship, because the communal relationship is the relationship between Christ and His church (the Catholic Church), orienting the disciple toward obedience to the earthly head of that relationship, which is the papacy that Christ Himself established.
16:56 You're talking about what the near-Catholic Protestants call the Prayer of Humble Access. It comes from Matthew 8:8. The Prayer of Humble Access that some Protestants say has different and longer text but has the same intent. Here are the English and Latin versions of the Catholic prayer; the English is a literal translation of the Latin:
* Lord, I am not worthy that You should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.
* Domine, non sum dignus ut intres sub tectum meum, sed tantum dic verbo et sanabitur anima mea.
Wow thank you so much for taking the time to comb through the video and respond! I really appreciate it! There really is so much to appreciate about the TLM!
@@BecomingCatholic You're welcome! If you ever decide to visit Middle Tennessee, let me know!
Es muy difícil encontrar lugares donde hagan Misas en latín en mi país. Al menos en la región donde vivo, sólo hay Misa en español. Sería muy lindo ir un día a una en latín. ❤
I hope you have the opportunity some day. But don’t despair, you’re worshiping the Lord where you are and that what He wants from you the most!
New subscriber here❤keep growing 😊
Thank you so much!!
Consider visiting us in The Zealots Den brother! Good fellowship over there!
Oh and you should definitely learn Latin. Very important for a variety of reasons.
You should know there are also non trad (Vatican 2) Gregorian chant Latin masses. Here in France at least but probably in the US too.
I like your content, keep it up.
As much as I’d love to learn Latin, I probably won’t haha but I appreciate the tip about the V2 Gregorian Chant masses. I’d love to go to one!
You pray and follow the Mass with your Missal or you can pray other prayers but most people use a missal.
That makes sense!
Come on home! Former Protestant here, it will all make sense! Stick to the pre Vatican 2 tradition.
While I do prefer the TLM and I have my gripes with the liberal NO masses I’ve been to, V2 really isn’t so bad. It’s just been abused by liberal and cruddy priests and laity.
It's an act of respect covering your head.
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I understand coming from a Protestant background. That it may baffle some folks when they come into contact with some Catholic priests who are perhaps a little bit shy and introverted, or maybe even a little bit standoffish or cold. But I think we have to take into consideration several factors. 1) All priests will always have their individual personality no matter their vocation. 2) It's possible some have become closed off and jaded or even bitter. But we have to take into consideration that this vocation is incredibly demanding and self-sacrificing. So, it will trample their hearts and their spirits from time-to-time, and I think we have to take that into consideration and give them some grace. And 3) Yes, there are some priests who are incredibly enthusiastic and they can draw many people to them and to the church. But! By and large - and this coming from a cradle Catholic - we're simply not a very in your face kind of people when it comes to proclaiming our faith. Because we trust and believe that God can and will bring others to Him. So, there's no need to be a pushover or to be forceful with our faith. If a person's enthusiasm is genuine than that is felt, but if it fake, than that is felt too. Personally, I prefer the quiet stoicism of our faith because that is the *peace* that our Lord gives to us. And that is what I am going for and receiving after every mass, or after a novena, or after Eucharist Adoration. I want the calm tranquility of our Lord, so that I can make good and objective and balanced decisions in my every day-to-day life. Because *peace* is what allows us to make rational and calm decisions. But fear and anxiety is what makes us make awful and rash decisions. So, I just wanted go share my two cents. I think no matter a person's Christian affiliation, if they have Christ in them, then others can sense and feel the spark of the divine in them. So, there's no need to ever overdo it.
POPE BENEDICT XVI: “God wants your friendship. And once you enter into friendship with God, everything in your life begins to change. As you come to know him better, you will find you want to reflect something of his infinite goodness in your own life. You become attracted to the practice of virtue. You begin to see greed and selfishness and all the other sins for what they really are, destructive and dangerous tendencies that cause deep suffering and do greater damage, and you want to avoid falling into that trap yourselves. You begin to feel compassion for people in difficulties and you are eager to do something to help them. You want to come to the aid of the poor and the hungry, you want to comfort the sorrowful, you want to be kind and generous. And once these things begin to matter to you, you are well on the way to becoming saints”
Thanks for sharing this quote!
At 15:00 you sounded very Protestant but you're getting there. Visit an SSPX Chapel some time, even if it's a long drive for you. One of the reasons why Latin is so wonderful is that it is a dead language. Dead Languages do not change.
Just to clarify at min 4:50 : Its the same Sacrifice, but an unbloody Sacrifice. So Jesus is not “on the Cross” again, and its not the same bloody sacrificed manifest at a different time (or else it would still be bloody but you couldn’t see it) instead, it’s a memorial Sacrifice. That is our Glorified Risen Lord on the Alter.
Father Thomas Crean O.P had a great article on this called “The Mass as an actual sacrifice in Catholic Tradition.“
Wow very insightful, thank you.
@ Your Very Welcome 🙏🏻
You are not far from the Kingdom of God. Please honestly consider "crossing the Tiber" and join us in the Catholic Chuirch!
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The SSPX is converting to Orthodoxy. Catholics are Papists.
Never been to SSPX but I’d love to!
Now you need to attend a Ukrainian or Ruthenian Catholic Church
That video will be happening in the foreseeable future 😉
I speak Spanish 💯 and now I want to go to one. I think I'll be able to pick up about 50% by ear alone.
Why not just go to a Spanish Mass? What is this strange infatuation with a language no-one speaks?
I speak French and it only gets you so far, also some of the prayers are whispered by the priest, he's worshipping and offering to God so it isn't about us even understanding it
@atrifle8364 latin is a sacred language uncorrupted *by modernity and it's been the language of the western rites forever, the Mass in the extraordinary form is like stepping into another time and place it's beautiful
The Latin Mass is not just about doing the ancient language. The liturgy is over 1500 years old, and there a lot of prayers that have been changed or omitted in the new mass. @@atrifle8364
stranger yet is the hostility towards the Traditional liturgy. It's not the language but the orientation towards contemplative worship and the reverence, be it the silent Low Mass, or chanted High Mass.
Ambo is standing on Gospel side of the nave it is raised up... a pulpit
I didn’t know that! Thank you!!
Praying a rosary at Mass is part of the reason they changed "Traditional Latin Mass". (It's really the Missal of 1962, by the way). What you did to pay attention at the Mass was correct. That's why the current missal is in the vernacular.
Priests are like humanity, imperfect in all the usual ways.
That's not true. You are lying.
The real reason why they implemented new mass is because the ll Vatican Council was dominated by modernist experts. New Mass reflects their new teachings.
Please read the church father's and you will be even closer
I have! They’re wonderful!
Stay away from the TLM !
Why?
Look at how Vatican Audience Hall looks and choose wisely brother.
Haha are you serious?
bUt iT lOoKs lIkE a SnAkE!
I don't understand which difference you see at the moment of Communion with the renovated Mass. We always say: Lord, I am not worthy... Yeah. When you look back at the Traditional Mass it would happen to you what happened to the wife of Lot: you will be petrified, stuck in the past, close to the renewal that the Holy Spirit wants to work in the Church like in Pentecost, when he descended in the figure of fire to renew all things and make us sing the praises of God in all the languages of the earth. The II Vatican Council was like a new Pentecost for the Church and the liturgy which it asked to be renewed is not anymore a spectacle which we attend, but a worship where we all participate and God is praised in all the languages
the vernacular was condemned at Trent
In my Diocese we frequently have what I call the Tower of Babel mass. Why have one vernacular when you can have bilingual, trilingual or multi-lingual masses. It’s Mass confusion.
@@Spiritof76Catholic that's exactly what it is
If you are converting to the experience of the "Traditional Latin Mass" that's not a conversion to Catholicism. It's a conversion to an experience. The Cross was not pretty. There's nothing wrong with liking the liturgy itself and loving beauty. However, if you can't sit in the pews with the vast majority of Catholics in the US, that's a long term issue.
Oh Dear. Read the Latin Mass explained. The new and old rites are basically two different reliigions. Saad but true.
I really appreciate this comment. Thank you.
Even though I don’t necessarily struggle with radical traditionalism, it does poke its evil head out now and again. You’ll be happy to learn though that the TLM is not what I’m converting to or for. I do sometimes find it difficult to sit through mass when it seems particularly irreverent, but I stay so long as the consecration is valid because it means the sacrifice of our Blessed Lord is re-presented and He is really in the room.
I appreciate your zeal for the TLM but this commenter has a very real and valid point.
So sad. You have gone the wrong direction - backwards.
Nope.
Explain.
Because it sounds like hes’s exploring and learning what has been for 2,000 years, instead of what modernists have created in the last 500 years.
lol another a dumb comment
“Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.”
I attend a Novus Ordo. Done at Ad orientium. We repeat this as well.
But i also attend an FSSP during the week.
Hello, I am happy every time I see a protestant returning to Catholicism, I always thank God because their minds have finally been enlightened. By the way, about the veil for your wife, if you are married, it should be black or even cream, if you are still single, it should be white. But it is also up to you what color veil you want to wear. May god bless you and your whole family.❤️
I did hear that about the black and white veils! Thank you for the encouragement!
Ya know as a Mexican American,
what you call “Latin Mass” to me is “slightly older Spanish Mass” 🫶🏻😌😂
If you go to Spanish Mass, even tho we don’t do the same rituals as the Latin Mass, it still feels like Holier than English Mass because Spanish Mass is closer to the “divine” language.
However, I’ve also attended Mass in French, Italian, Greek & Arabic.
Basically, the older Holy Languages of Greek (Istanbul), Arabic(Jerusalem), Aramaic (Antioch), Coptic (Alexandria), & Latin (Rome) have what feel is the “true” divine language because these are the Church Jesus via the Apostles established the 5 Patriarchs of our Mother Church.
I do recommend attending Mass in the divine languages. I did in the old cathedrals of the Middle East & Europe. Truly made me a believer after years of doubting my faith.