How this films are not famous? I am making some WW2 short films and i know how much organization, work and time it takes to do something like this. Respect 👏
Fantastic! Never before have i seen this event from the perspective of the police , it has given a whole new insight into my idea of the kelly saga and the incident at stringybark creek that is never explored or portrayed , why have I never seen this before? Excellent!
Enjoyed this depiction of what happened at Stringybark Creek. I think it is very important that the Police involved doing their duty with no evidence of corruption, which is always stated to explain the Kelly gangs behaviour. Enjoyed watching this picture very much.
@@pauljosephcleary That report written in 2007 was a load of fictitious rubbish. When the Police Integrity Commission closed down, all material went to the Victorian IBAC, and it was promulgated on their website. I had it removed more than two years ago, as I proved to IBAC it was not true. That report still exists on some sites on the internet. Here is the portion of that report relating to the Kelly Outbreak.
"The Royal Commission into the pervasive mismanagement of the hunt (the Longmore Commission) shattered a number of police careers in addition to that of Chief Commissioner Standish. Widespread corruption was exposed. The activities of two members, in particular, Winch and Larner, included involvement in prostitution, gambling and borrowing from hotelkeepers, whilst being protected by Standish. Winch escaped criminal charges and retired on his pension. Special criticism was reserved for the Detective Branch, which was variously described as 'inimical to the public interest', a 'nursery of crime' and a department whose 'system of working (was) so iniquitous that it may be regarded as little less than a standing menace to the community." Now let me tear this rubbish apart for you. 1. Chief Commissioner Standish had retired six months before the RC even began. The Commission did not shatter his career as claimed. 2. The 1881 RC document makes no mention of corruption at all. The word 'corrupt' is not included in that report anywhere. In the 1882 report the RC said they found corruption in the detective branch in Melbourne, which was true. That branch had 25 members. Senior police were prosecuted in criminal courts and found not guilty. The suggestion that there was widespread corruption is fictitious rot. It was essentially confined to the detective branch. 3. The report states that the RC shattered a number of police careers. Only three junior police were dismissed. No other senior police were demoted, dismissed or admonished. Both Supt Hare and Nicolson were promoted to be police magistrates. All senior police held their positions. Far too much fiction relating to the entire Kelly story still exists today and should be exposed for the fiction falsely promoted.
@@pauljosephcleary That report was fictitious rubbish and I had it removed from the Victorian IBAC site. Almost everything in that report was anti-police and made up fiction.
What an absolutely spellbinding account of that terrible day. The first time I have seen anything from the perspective of the policemen. Brilliant portrayal. I neither think the Kelly's were heroes or demons, just brazen, violent criminals. Thank you so much for a great rendition of such a tragic event in Australian history.
It brought alive the true essence of the times of 1878 it captured a moment in time so real it put to rest my wondering of what it was really like living through those times quiet an amazing film
Stealing horses in those days could mean the difference between life and death, thats how serious it was. Cattle rustling was stealing someone's livelihood and means of survival. Times were incredibly tough in those days. The police out to arrest these thieves should be remembered as heroes and the gang as low life cowards, a stain on Australian history. Excellent production gentlemen.
Just stumbled across this film. The attention to historical detail and accuracy in some parts of this film is quite amazing. I have just finished reading "The Kelly gang unmasked" which given its sources highlights how accurate this film is. Of course the events at Stringybark after McIntrye departs are either rely on Kelly's account or make your conclusions from available evidence. I think it is highly plausible that events unfolded this way but who can say with any certainty. I don't give Kelly's accounts much credence, mostly self serving in my opinion. I don't believe McIntrye would have lived had he not escaped. It was so refreshing to see this film steer clear of the Robin Hood angle and show that these Police were real people not just some keystone cops on horseback. If these events happened today the country would be horrified, as they were back then. As the Kelly's came to them it is hard to argue self defense. Congratulations to all involved thoroughly enjoyed the film and am so glad I came across it.
I am very familiar with the documentation from the time and agree with you 100%. Ben did his homework and the end result on a tiny budget is quite brilliant.
OMG! Old Gippstown you look amazing! Had forgotten this was done..... So impressed you got Scanlan's horse correct...Although you got his dog incorrect. M48 was well represented.
Great film at the star showing the sergeant with his family how they got there orders borrowing the rifle from the gold escort how ever different to transcript from constable McIntyre events .. full respect to the police officers from 1878 involved ..
i have read and heard all about how ned kelly was captured but until just now i have never read or heard that he pleaded for his life. i guess we'll never know what really happened.
Great production. It also gives credit to the police and doesn’t suggest that McIntyre was a coward. If McIntyre had have stayed, Kelly would have killed him to cover the evidence. I would say this picture depicts more likely what really happened. Great work!
@lliams7212 no ones knows kennedy's final mins only ned and maybe his gang, fact is they covered him out of remorse and guilt and maybe respect who knows . this shows some type of decency and this fabrication is not true of their supposed cowardice as it portrays . and what would ned have to lie about his fate was sealed and no amount lying was going to save him .
@@jeffeasdale8254 Ned Kelly related the entirety of what happened to numerous people, including his prisoners at Glenrowan, so we do know what happened. Ned Kelly was a vicious murdering swine as this film shows. It is very correct in that respect. The fiction written by pro-Kelly authors have screwed up the story beyond belief. New books and films like Stringybark are finally coming to the fore to put the record straight. More than time it happened.
@@bradwilliams7212 so your saying kate and ned just blurted out to everyone and anyone that kennedy ran out from behind a tree yelling that he wanted to surrender and we just chose to blow him away for the hell of it because im a coward . yeh righto .
@@jeffeasdale8254 You have no idea do you? You need to research properly. then you might have some idea of what you are talking about. Ned Kelly wounded Sgt Kennedy and captured him and interrogated him for some hours. Kennedy told Kelly that he had 5 young children under 10 years of age and that his wife was pregnant. He begged for his life, but the low life that Kelly was, took was 12 gauge shotgun, and at point-blank range fired into his chest, killing him instantly. He was not badly wounded, as the Dr. doing the postmortem stated that Kennedy was standing erect when the fatal shot was fired. Not satisfied with that atrocity, he then robbed his corpse, taking a gold watch. Years after Kelly was hanged, the Kelly family, offered the watch back to Bridgett Kennedy, BUT demanded a ransom. That is how low they were. Bridgett refused to pay for her own property, and a publican paid the money to get the watch back. The Kelly's were the lowest of the low.
I'm just curious..... in what account of the Glenrowan seige did you read the part about Ned pleading for his life? I've pawed through every eye witness account and police report I could find for years and have never found that part. Everything I've ever read has said he was defiant till the end even when near death at the Glenrowan train station.
@@bradwilliams7212 Have done so. Constable Arthur nor Sargent Steele make no mention of it in any report. Neither did Jessie Dowsett in his statement. Constable Kelly was close enough to be credited in removing Kelly's helmet and also makes no mention in his report.
@@justinmcgoldrick8006 Try page 342 of the RC report from 1881. Here is a transcript. "Sergeant Steele had him with his left hand across his neck, this way- [indicating the same]. Senior-Constable Kelly was standing behind, Bracken had hold of Kelly’s left arm, and I was in front. Kelly was trembling with fear, and said, “Do not kill me, let me live as long as I can. I never injured one of you.” The helmet fell off as he was firing." Evidence given by Constable James Dwyer. Ned Kelly was a coward as the facts clearly show.
@@bradwilliams7212 Oh, I see..... the magic helmet theory. Either it feel off as stated by James Dwyer or Constable Kelly removed it. Can't be both..... So someone was fabricating a narrative. The facts show nothing when such an arbitrary detail as the helmet is contradicted.
@@bradwilliams7212 Oh, I see, the magic helmet theory. Either the helmet fell off as stated by James Dwyer or it was removed as stated by constable Kelly. It can't be both. Someone was fabricating a narrative, it cant be both. So the facts show nothing when such an arbitrary detail as that can already be picked into contention.
@@pauljosephcleary That report was fictitious rubbish and I had it removed from the Victorian IBAC site. Almost everything in that report was anti-police and made up fiction.
@@pauljosephcleary That report was fictitious rubbish and I had it removed from the Victorian IBAC site. Almost everything in that report was anti-police and made up fiction.
Office of Police Integrity Report/The Problem of Police Corruption/The Kelly Outbreak. This report was removed at my request two years ago. It was false.
hhmmm interesting, a much needed version to be put on film for all to see but a very bias one and that is unfortunate . May those fella's rest in peice . if he was as bad as you say then mcintyre would surely not have survived the encounter .
Ned Kelly intended to murder McIntyre. He was lucky to escape, but he did. This is not a biased film. It is close to 100% accurate, and destroys the numerous fictional accounts written by pro-Kelly authors. More than time, the pro-Kelly mob were exposed for their lies. If you claim it is biased, in what respect is it biased?
It is not biased at all. It is a factual representation of what actually happened. Kelly intended to murder McIntyre, but he was smart enough to escape on Kennedy's horse. He was fired on by all members of the gang. It was his evidence that convicted Kelly.
‘Aussie’ accent hadn’t really evolved yet in the colonies. Even kids born at that time picked up the Irish accent because nearly everyone had it including teachers…
Its clearly YOU who hasnt done the research. Bens recreation of the murders is very accurate, and closely follows how both kelly and McIntyre described them.
@@davidmacfarlane9943 Idk, I appreciate the unique angle here, but some things get twisted to suit the narrative. For example, at 33:38, Byrne asks McIntyre if he smokes, then says aggressively, "Well, fill your pipe and have a fucking smoke". McIntyre recalled the exchange this way: "Byrne asked, 'Do you smoke, mate?' and I replied 'Yes.' He then said, 'Light your pipe, and have a smoke with me,' and I did so." The tone is far more neutral, even friendly. McIntyre later wrote: "Byrne was the only one who spoke to me in anything like a kindly manner". So, the characterisation is off. And Kelly punching Kennedy as he lies wounded on the ground is total invention. These kind of attempts to make the gang come off extra villainous, call into question the the objectivity the filmmakers claim to be striving for.
How this films are not famous? I am making some WW2 short films and i know how much organization, work and time it takes to do something like this. Respect 👏
Thanks very much!
Finally some accuracy. No romanticism. Just reality and emotion of those affected.
Very well done.
As a former police officer, thank you.
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Thanks for the kind words! @Maza675
Damn bro your films are so good! How are you so underrated?! I'm sending this vid to other people because this masterpiece shall not be missed
That's much appreciated bro!
Fantastic! Never before have i seen this event from the perspective of the police , it has given a whole new insight into my idea of the kelly saga and the incident at stringybark creek that is never explored or portrayed , why have I never seen this before? Excellent!
Enjoyed this depiction of what happened at Stringybark Creek. I think it is very important that the Police involved doing their duty with no evidence of corruption, which is always stated to explain the Kelly gangs behaviour.
Enjoyed watching this picture very much.
Your comment is accurate. Thank you.
@@pauljosephcleary That report written in 2007 was a load of fictitious rubbish. When the Police Integrity Commission closed down, all material went to the Victorian IBAC, and it was promulgated on their website. I had it removed more than two years ago, as I proved to IBAC it was not true. That report still exists on some sites on the internet.
Here is the portion of that report relating to the Kelly Outbreak.
"The Royal Commission into the pervasive mismanagement of the hunt (the Longmore Commission) shattered a number of police careers in addition to that of Chief Commissioner Standish. Widespread corruption was exposed. The activities of two members, in particular, Winch and Larner, included involvement in prostitution, gambling and borrowing from hotelkeepers, whilst being protected by Standish. Winch escaped criminal charges and retired on his pension. Special criticism was reserved for the Detective Branch, which was variously described as 'inimical to the public interest', a 'nursery of crime' and a department whose 'system of working (was) so iniquitous that it may be regarded as little less than a standing menace to the community."
Now let me tear this rubbish apart for you.
1. Chief Commissioner Standish had retired six months before the RC even began. The Commission did not shatter his career as claimed.
2. The 1881 RC document makes no mention of corruption at all. The word 'corrupt' is not included in that report anywhere. In the 1882 report the RC said they found corruption in the detective branch in Melbourne, which was true. That branch had 25 members. Senior police were prosecuted in criminal courts and found not guilty. The suggestion that there was widespread corruption is fictitious rot. It was essentially confined to the detective branch.
3. The report states that the RC shattered a number of police careers. Only three junior police were dismissed. No other senior police were demoted, dismissed or admonished.
Both Supt Hare and Nicolson were promoted to be police magistrates. All senior police held their positions.
Far too much fiction relating to the entire Kelly story still exists today and should be exposed for the fiction falsely promoted.
@@pauljosephcleary That report was fictitious rubbish and I had it removed from the Victorian IBAC site. Almost everything in that report was anti-police and made up fiction.
@@pauljosephcleary That report is fictitious rot. I had it removed from the IBAC site two years ago.
@@pauljosephcleary The Police Integrity Report was removed two years ago at my request. It was not true.
Thank you mate really appreciate this! 😎❤
Can we get a sequel where the siege takes place at glenrowan ? This is awesome thnx
What an absolutely spellbinding account of that terrible day. The first time I have seen anything from the perspective of the policemen. Brilliant portrayal. I neither think the Kelly's were heroes or demons, just brazen, violent criminals. Thank you so much for a great rendition of such a tragic event in Australian history.
Well said, thanks for the words of support!
It brought alive the true essence of the times of 1878 it captured a moment in time so real it put to rest my wondering of what it was really like living through those times quiet an amazing film
Terrific movie - Victorian fan
Stealing horses in those days could mean the difference between life and death, thats how serious it was. Cattle rustling was stealing someone's livelihood and means of survival. Times were incredibly tough in those days. The police out to arrest these thieves should be remembered as heroes and the gang as low life cowards, a stain on Australian history. Excellent production gentlemen.
Spot on, well said. Thanks for the kind words @daniello9155
Just stumbled across this film. The attention to historical detail and accuracy in some parts of this film is quite amazing. I have just finished reading "The Kelly gang unmasked" which given its sources highlights how accurate this film is. Of course the events at Stringybark after McIntrye departs are either rely on Kelly's account or make your conclusions from available evidence. I think it is highly plausible that events unfolded this way but who can say with any certainty. I don't give Kelly's accounts much credence, mostly self serving in my opinion. I don't believe McIntrye would have lived had he not escaped. It was so refreshing to see this film steer clear of the Robin Hood angle and show that these Police were real people not just some keystone cops on horseback. If these events happened today the country would be horrified, as they were back then. As the Kelly's came to them it is hard to argue self defense. Congratulations to all involved thoroughly enjoyed the film and am so glad I came across it.
I am very familiar with the documentation from the time and agree with you 100%. Ben did his homework and the end result on a tiny budget is quite brilliant.
I don't know why but fck that hit hard and gives a different perspective.
It gives an accurate perspective, not the fictitious nonsense presently in pro-Kelly films and books.
@@bradwilliams7212it’s a fairy tale. The facts are that very few remember these coppers names, and Ned is a cultural icon 😂😂
@@MrCites1 Only in the minds of ignorant fools.
@@bradwilliams7212Officer Williams, is that you? 🐷
OMG! Old Gippstown you look amazing! Had forgotten this was done.....
So impressed you got Scanlan's horse correct...Although you got his dog incorrect. M48 was well represented.
Great production, though was bias against Ned Kelly and the was plenty of in errors in what ACTUALLY happened.
So sad... 😺
Great film at the star showing the sergeant with his family how they got there orders borrowing the rifle from the gold escort how ever different to transcript from constable McIntyre events .. full respect to the police officers from 1878 involved ..
Spot on well said, thanks for the words of support
An authentic version of those murders, Poignantly portrayed. My sympathies and condolences to the families of the Police, murdered that day.
i have read and heard all about how ned kelly was captured but until just now i have never read or heard that he pleaded for his life. i guess we'll never know what really happened.
It is SGT Michael Kennedy depicted in the final scenes of this film, that Ned Kelly murdered 2 years prior to his capture by Police.
Nice production!
Great production. It also gives credit to the police and doesn’t suggest that McIntyre was a coward. If McIntyre had have stayed, Kelly would have killed him to cover the evidence. I would say this picture depicts more likely what really happened. Great work!
You are correct. What a pity more pro Kelly people did not view this film, as it is historically correct.
@lliams7212 no ones knows kennedy's final mins only ned and maybe his gang, fact is they covered him out of remorse and guilt and maybe respect who knows . this shows some type of decency and this fabrication is not true of their supposed cowardice as it portrays . and what would ned have to lie about his fate was sealed and no amount lying was going to save him .
@@jeffeasdale8254 Ned Kelly related the entirety of what happened to numerous people, including his prisoners at Glenrowan, so we do know what happened.
Ned Kelly was a vicious murdering swine as this film shows. It is very correct in that respect.
The fiction written by pro-Kelly authors have screwed up the story beyond belief. New books and films like Stringybark are finally coming to the fore to put the record straight. More than time it happened.
@@bradwilliams7212 so your saying kate and ned just blurted out to everyone and anyone that kennedy ran out from behind a tree yelling that he wanted to surrender and we just chose to blow him away for the hell of it because im a coward . yeh righto .
@@jeffeasdale8254 You have no idea do you? You need to research properly. then you might have some idea of what you are talking about.
Ned Kelly wounded Sgt Kennedy and captured him and interrogated him for some hours. Kennedy told Kelly that he had 5 young children under 10 years of age and that his wife was pregnant. He begged for his life, but the low life that Kelly was, took was 12 gauge shotgun, and at point-blank range fired into his chest, killing him instantly.
He was not badly wounded, as the Dr. doing the postmortem stated that Kennedy was standing erect when the fatal shot was fired.
Not satisfied with that atrocity, he then robbed his corpse, taking a gold watch.
Years after Kelly was hanged, the Kelly family, offered the watch back to Bridgett Kennedy, BUT demanded a ransom. That is how low they were. Bridgett refused to pay for her own property, and a publican paid the money to get the watch back.
The Kelly's were the lowest of the low.
I'm just curious..... in what account of the Glenrowan seige did you read the part about Ned pleading for his life? I've pawed through every eye witness account and police report I could find for years and have never found that part. Everything I've ever read has said he was defiant till the end even when near death at the Glenrowan train station.
Read the Royal Commission report from 1881. That contains the information you are looking for.
@@bradwilliams7212 Have done so. Constable Arthur nor Sargent Steele make no mention of it in any report. Neither did Jessie Dowsett in his statement. Constable Kelly was close enough to be credited in removing Kelly's helmet and also makes no mention in his report.
@@justinmcgoldrick8006 Try page 342 of the RC report from 1881. Here is a transcript.
"Sergeant Steele had him with his left hand across his neck, this way- [indicating the same]. Senior-Constable Kelly was standing behind, Bracken had hold of Kelly’s left arm, and I was in front. Kelly was trembling with fear, and said, “Do not kill me, let me live as long as I can. I never injured one of you.” The helmet fell off as he was firing."
Evidence given by Constable James Dwyer.
Ned Kelly was a coward as the facts clearly show.
@@bradwilliams7212 Oh, I see..... the magic helmet theory. Either it feel off as stated by James Dwyer or Constable Kelly removed it. Can't be both..... So someone was fabricating a narrative. The facts show nothing when such an arbitrary detail as the helmet is contradicted.
@@bradwilliams7212 Oh, I see, the magic helmet theory. Either the helmet fell off as stated by James Dwyer or it was removed as stated by constable Kelly. It can't be both. Someone was fabricating a narrative, it cant be both. So the facts show nothing when such an arbitrary detail as that can already be picked into contention.
Well told
This was great..
Well done Ben. Very accurate portrayal. I will spread the word.
@@pauljosephcleary That report was fictitious rubbish and I had it removed from the Victorian IBAC site. Almost everything in that report was anti-police and made up fiction.
@@pauljosephcleary That report was fictitious rubbish and I had it removed from the Victorian IBAC site. Almost everything in that report was anti-police and made up fiction.
@@pauljosephcleary Why read fictitious rot? I had it removed from the IBAC site two years ago.
@@pauljosephcleary The Police Integrity Report was removed two years ago at my request. It was not true.
Office of Police Integrity Report/The Problem of Police Corruption/The Kelly Outbreak. This report was removed at my request two years ago. It was false.
Excellent
non historic coming from a police perspective trying 2 justify their failure
The police succeeded…but at great cost. Two years after this ghastly horror the gang members were all dead.
Poor Ned
Poor Kennedy.
Not worth watching such a waste of 55 minutes
At least it had a happy ending.
Would have been nice if you had mentioned *why* the troopers were looking for Ned and Dan, i.e. the alleged shooting of Fitzpatrick.
This is only the police version not the actual one and we all now the police NEVER lie
Love the ☘️😂
good
"Australian born Europeans"?
Exactly...no respect for the Irish or poor
You misspelt "no respect for the law". The only legacy that felon left is some readily identifiable postboxes today...😄
@@Agent007-h2yyou misspelled misspelt
hhmmm interesting, a much needed version to be put on film for all to see but a very bias one and that is unfortunate . May those fella's rest in peice . if he was as bad as you say then mcintyre would surely not have survived the encounter .
Ned Kelly intended to murder McIntyre. He was lucky to escape, but he did.
This is not a biased film. It is close to 100% accurate, and destroys the numerous fictional accounts written by pro-Kelly authors. More than time, the pro-Kelly mob were exposed for their lies.
If you claim it is biased, in what respect is it biased?
Agree
Also a lot of made up dialogues for dramatisation purposes
It is not biased at all. It is a factual representation of what actually happened.
Kelly intended to murder McIntyre, but he was smart enough to escape on Kennedy's horse. He was fired on by all members of the gang. It was his evidence that convicted Kelly.
Biased be buggered. That portrayal is exactly as it happened according to the most honest evidence.
Why they speaking Irish when there supost to be aussie
Because they came from Ireland..
@oges74 all the aussie cops were from Ireland?
@@genxscotty If you are referring to the four main police at the campsite, then yes, they were all natives of Ireland
@oges74 well Ned's perants were but ned was born n bread aussie
‘Aussie’ accent hadn’t really evolved yet in the colonies. Even kids born at that time picked up the Irish accent because nearly everyone had it including teachers…
Completely historically wrong u really didn’t do any research Ben did u ?? U just made a one sided film . Pathetic ..
Its clearly YOU who hasnt done the research. Bens recreation of the murders is very accurate, and closely follows how both kelly and McIntyre described them.
@@davidmacfarlane9943 Every other historic account i have goes against the grain of this one sided movie.
@@davidmacfarlane9943 Idk, I appreciate the unique angle here, but some things get twisted to suit the narrative. For example, at 33:38, Byrne asks McIntyre if he smokes, then says aggressively, "Well, fill your pipe and have a fucking smoke". McIntyre recalled the exchange this way: "Byrne asked, 'Do you smoke, mate?' and I replied 'Yes.' He then said, 'Light your pipe, and have a smoke with me,' and I did so." The tone is far more neutral, even friendly. McIntyre later wrote: "Byrne was the only one who spoke to me in anything like a kindly manner". So, the characterisation is off. And Kelly punching Kennedy as he lies wounded on the ground is total invention. These kind of attempts to make the gang come off extra villainous, call into question the the objectivity the filmmakers claim to be striving for.