@Wes - I understand your desire to get this video out first, but I would prefer to see your thoughts at beginning and end. Even if short, don’t want to be receiving reposts from Microsoft without Wes analysis.
Chillout wes has a life he clearly wanted to share this info because he thought it was important. You can wait for his thoughts im sure he will weigh in when he is able. Respect the content creator and think and make your own conclusions first. It seems you dont have the ability to process your own feelings and you need to filter them through Wes. Kinda weak tbh
He keeps saying "think of these as *augmenting* your departments" while also saying "think of them like they're your *coworker* ". Does not compute IMHO, we are on the precipice of some major labor disruptions
I would laugh if in one year we will get to AGI and there will be no point in using any frontend for software, because everything will be done by agent just on API level and it will present you anything however you like. It would be the same fate as those startups relying on AI models, while months later model itself has capability of what startup was doing.
I don't want 55 different new AI interfaces!.I have spent my life learning a thousand 'APP's'. I want ONE copilot wing-man / woman, that helps me fight my corner, works with me on projects and bounce ideas off.... Boil it all down and SIMPLIFY my life, don't give me a hundred new things to learn, on top of my day. ....I don't want to see new 'APP' UI's. All I want is to see is my "copilot" and the final results of the task I give it.. spreadsheet, image generation, etc....SIMPLIFY, please!!
The more "Items" they can sell you the more $ they make. Combining things reduces profit. They all are Blowfish trying to capture larger share of the market= $$$. Capitalism like this is extractive/ Zero sum. It's inherently NOT going to uplift individuals. Why it's a "coworker for a department" NOT individuals
@@michaelpaine8849 Have you not heard?... Rabbit is dead in the water. Besides, I don't want my wing-man on a blocky orange cube, that looks like a fisherprice toy.. I want it on all my devices.
@@rw9207 We can do brief conversations but until we break context we're bound by it. No jarvis until then. huge LLMs are more than capable for most of that wishlist tho and these tools aren't something you have to learn you just tell them to do stuff.
The REAL agentic loop: 1. Put AI into everything. 2. Employers expect fluency in their "game changing productivity tools" 3. Hire fewer humans and repeat.
I really just want to know when will the average person get access to these super smart and capable AI Agents? I just want to have a Team of AI agents helping me build my dreams projects.
All this news and you still can't add an event to your calendar in a different time zone just by speaking to it. It will try to create a calendar event with Gemini, however it has no concept of time zones and it just goes with the default. So this is a lot of talk for a lot of people that haven't thought through a lot of things.
Microsoft's game plan in a nutshell. Step 1: Deploy agents masquerading as productivity enhancers to harvest data on remote worker work patterns. Step 2: Take the remote worker out of the equation.
All the new AI products hitting the market rely on one of two assumptions: either buyers don’t fully understand AI’s long-term impact, or they don’t believe in a future where AI takes over jobs. After all, efficiency has limits-beyond those, automation replaces human roles entirely.
Well in more or less every workplace you must use the tools management demands. So you can either use AI, or you can refuse and quit. So it's not as if workers are not aware they are headed for the glue factory and all this stuff is intended one day to replace them.
When agents are doing most of our work, do most people really need workstations running windows or will we just use our phones and bark out orders at AI agents?
@@bnjiodyn you'll be too poor to afford technology that uses software interfaces, most likely. This is all, of course, if corporations have their way. This is why it's wise to let law catch up before making business deals with corporations that reshape the concept of "work" itself. This could enable people to jobs they couldn't have done before. But if used solely to make money, which is what they are essentially encouraging, it will create job loss, class disparity, and dystopia.
After decades of experience with Microsoft I presumed that also co-pilot will never be really done, always be half ready, always annoying. Vaporware so to speak.
Yeah, they're just so uninnovative at their organizational decision making level. It's just take ChatGPT and jam it into everything in the most superficial way possible. I could probably do what they're doing.
I think issue is AI is still at windows 1.0 state, microsoft is building the ground and basics first imagine copilot after 5 years, you would have a multimodal AI agent nearing AGI capabilities where you can share your screen to ask its advice, just talk to it or tell it to create a draft while you go have your coffee, unsure its impact on job market but thats the vision i think microsoft going with, its like san francisco there is so much wealth and intelligence in san francisco but they are unable to solve city level problems with all the money and tech and now AI that they have
Scaling is subjective to perspective and time dilation. Scales were designed long before we arrived it is measured by how we all place a tiny weight on either side of it. This is the scale. Just when you thought the libra meant nothing at all. Just weigh in and be measured.
Most of the audience is thinking, am I going to lose my job. How many jobs are going to be replaced by an AI. But at the moment the hype is big, a lot of ideas and apps but not many that are useful in normal office work but I guess it will change soon.
I just don’t like the UI/UX of their implementations. It almost feels like they’re doing it b/c everyone else is, and they have to. Would love to see some creativity on the UI/UX that’s different and powerful
Nobody is going to want to work a job where they have a narc "efficiency expert" looking at every aspect of their work in superhuman detail every hour of every day. Not unless they stop paying by the hour and start paying by real productivity, where the agent helps the user to make more money directly.
The applause from the audience seemed tepid at best. Gives the impression that they can literally see the "writing on the wall". Probably wondering how much longer before Copilot replaces them. 🤔->😰
Expected. AI is here, but .... Microsoft will continue to rule the business world, Google will own consumer information search (eventually), Apple will own personalized device experiences, Facebook / Instagram will own social aside from the TikTok outlier.
Idk how people are so delighted with copilot, at least with 4o model. Sometimes its so annoying. Simple method with example how to make it work with new variables and it can not do it 5 times in a row... Maybe with o1 model it would be better.
There will be no jobs. Just a few AI tech GIANTS who collect all revenue while the vast majority of humans are left begging for their next UBI disbursement. 😢
Better than having 20-30% dependent on UBI. This idea that the governments of the world will just let the streets run rampant with looting and decay because the super rich are fine is overly nihilistic, I think. If most of the world is dependent on UBI, they're going to have to develop a UBI system that is livable for most people. But if job loss doesn't reach a certain threshold, they can afford to ignore it which will be much worse for those impacted.
Microsoft at it's best creating a total mess :) CEO can't even remember all the tool names they came up with. You will end up with endless profiles, accounts and problems at every step. Nothing new...
Thank you for this concise recap of the presentation! I would not have watched it on my own. Very useful. I know you'll have a video with your thoughts later but I appreciate the quick info summary very much!
Every employee is just an agent. It's hilarious that all these tech CEO types are still selling the dream of ai working alongside humans in the trenches. In reality AI will do the everything. Including CEO.
I guess it's natural for MS to pander to the office customers not doing the most sophisticated things. I would have liked to see more cool coding but then again I use it everyday so no major surprises. Satella was also asked on CNBC the other day, how it's going justifying the 30$ a month and how will they get customers and he skirted that issue like a biden jewish spokesperson.
People have been claiming Windows is dead for decades, and I've been using Windows devices for that long. As of November 2024, there are approximately 1.4 billion devices running Windows 10 or Windows 11. So, not dead.
The real issue is storage per watt not token per what storage effiency is lagging imo...this marketing presentation does noting to instill confedence that that issue is not a parity issue in terms of efficiency it is like theses guys don't even understand how to use their own products
Typical Microsoft- get out, before its really ready and, wait. I don't think that Purview will be the catchall for Governance, regulatory, ethics and transparency across the whole ecosystem of AI enabled applications and services. I think that Google and AWS will have a view on this as well. I feel it hyper marketing and disingenuous to professionals.
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@Wes - I understand your desire to get this video out first, but I would prefer to see your thoughts at beginning and end. Even if short, don’t want to be receiving reposts from Microsoft without Wes analysis.
Agreed
Chillout wes has a life he clearly wanted to share this info because he thought it was important. You can wait for his thoughts im sure he will weigh in when he is able. Respect the content creator and think and make your own conclusions first. It seems you dont have the ability to process your own feelings and you need to filter them through Wes. Kinda weak tbh
Go do it yourself then...jesus christ dude... rude AF
I'd rather get such presentations early ... Assuming the analysis will follow soon after
yes
He keeps saying "think of these as *augmenting* your departments" while also saying "think of them like they're your *coworker* ". Does not compute IMHO, we are on the precipice of some major labor disruptions
Lol he also admitted that his customer service is now run by AI
I would laugh if in one year we will get to AGI and there will be no point in using any frontend for software, because everything will be done by agent just on API level and it will present you anything however you like. It would be the same fate as those startups relying on AI models, while months later model itself has capability of what startup was doing.
@@ultrasaiyan4283 could be presented as html5 or a video + audio streamed
I don't want 55 different new AI interfaces!.I have spent my life learning a thousand 'APP's'. I want ONE copilot wing-man / woman, that helps me fight my corner, works with me on projects and bounce ideas off.... Boil it all down and SIMPLIFY my life, don't give me a hundred new things to learn, on top of my day. ....I don't want to see new 'APP' UI's. All I want is to see is my "copilot" and the final results of the task I give it.. spreadsheet, image generation, etc....SIMPLIFY, please!!
The more "Items" they can sell you the more $ they make. Combining things reduces profit. They all are Blowfish trying to capture larger share of the market= $$$. Capitalism like this is extractive/ Zero sum. It's inherently NOT going to uplift individuals. Why it's a "coworker for a department" NOT individuals
Baby steps
Rabbit R1 has teach mode so you can have your cake.
@@michaelpaine8849 Have you not heard?... Rabbit is dead in the water. Besides, I don't want my wing-man on a blocky orange cube, that looks like a fisherprice toy.. I want it on all my devices.
@@rw9207 We can do brief conversations but until we break context we're bound by it. No jarvis until then. huge LLMs are more than capable for most of that wishlist tho and these tools aren't something you have to learn you just tell them to do stuff.
The REAL agentic loop: 1. Put AI into everything. 2. Employers expect fluency in their "game changing productivity tools" 3. Hire fewer humans and repeat.
I think it would repeat at 4. Wait a while
4. is take former employees salaries as a bonus. 5. is wait for something to go wrong
I really just want to know when will the average person get access to these super smart and capable AI Agents? I just want to have a Team of AI agents helping me build my dreams projects.
same i hope it is soon
I'm loving the advancements in AI and its applications! The concept of a universal interface is fascinating, can't wait to see how it evolves.
I'm honestly ready for the AI revolution. Very optimistic about it all
never trust a company that can't make good email ui for thirty years
But seriously
Just think about what AGI comes up with when thinking for a day. 😮
All this news and you still can't add an event to your calendar in a different time zone just by speaking to it. It will try to create a calendar event with Gemini, however it has no concept of time zones and it just goes with the default. So this is a lot of talk for a lot of people that haven't thought through a lot of things.
Microsoft's game plan in a nutshell.
Step 1: Deploy agents masquerading as productivity enhancers to harvest data on remote worker work patterns.
Step 2: Take the remote worker out of the equation.
All the new AI products hitting the market rely on one of two assumptions: either buyers don’t fully understand AI’s long-term impact, or they don’t believe in a future where AI takes over jobs. After all, efficiency has limits-beyond those, automation replaces human roles entirely.
Well in more or less every workplace you must use the tools management demands. So you can either use AI, or you can refuse and quit. So it's not as if workers are not aware they are headed for the glue factory and all this stuff is intended one day to replace them.
or they're trying to make as much money as fast as possible before most jobs cease to exist as we know them
When agents are doing most of our work, do most people really need workstations running windows or will we just use our phones and bark out orders at AI agents?
You will be out of a job by then
The open question is if they do our work good enough or still fails too often.
Neither. You'll be training your replacements. If your employer uses AI agents this way, find a different job. Don't help them replace you.
@ I mean after we are all “replaced” what software interface will we be using?
@@bnjiodyn you'll be too poor to afford technology that uses software interfaces, most likely.
This is all, of course, if corporations have their way. This is why it's wise to let law catch up before making business deals with corporations that reshape the concept of "work" itself.
This could enable people to jobs they couldn't have done before. But if used solely to make money, which is what they are essentially encouraging, it will create job loss, class disparity, and dystopia.
Too much jargon made for managers not builders.
Mostly prompt wrapping.
High cost. The innovation isn't happening with more Microsoft products. Imo.
Nadella doing the 'let's calm the investors' dance once again.
Why should i watch a marketing show on your channel?
After decades of experience with Microsoft I presumed that also co-pilot will never be really done, always be half ready, always annoying. Vaporware so to speak.
Yeah, they're just so uninnovative at their organizational decision making level. It's just take ChatGPT and jam it into everything in the most superficial way possible. I could probably do what they're doing.
Indeed, and when they finally sort out the bugs and get it half decent they bin it and launch a new system and we’re back to square one
I think issue is AI is still at windows 1.0 state, microsoft is building the ground and basics first imagine copilot after 5 years, you would have a multimodal AI agent nearing AGI capabilities where you can share your screen to ask its advice, just talk to it or tell it to create a draft while you go have your coffee, unsure its impact on job market but thats the vision i think microsoft going with, its like san francisco there is so much wealth and intelligence in san francisco but they are unable to solve city level problems with all the money and tech and now AI that they have
Scaling is subjective to perspective and time dilation.
Scales were designed long before we arrived it is measured by how we all place a tiny weight on either side of it.
This is the scale.
Just when you thought the libra meant nothing at all.
Just weigh in and be measured.
@hadinterest and you really didnt get it that is was meant metaphorically?
Most of the audience is thinking, am I going to lose my job. How many jobs are going to be replaced by an AI. But at the moment the hype is big, a lot of ideas and apps but not many that are useful in normal office work but I guess it will change soon.
Microsoft, which is known for reliable non-buggy software (yes, sarcastic) is going whole hog integrating AI. What could go wrong?
The title echoes lost pulp, sci-fi-fantasy vibes.
I just don’t like the UI/UX of their implementations. It almost feels like they’re doing it b/c everyone else is, and they have to. Would love to see some creativity on the UI/UX that’s different and powerful
Nobody is going to want to work a job where they have a narc "efficiency expert" looking at every aspect of their work in superhuman detail every hour of every day. Not unless they stop paying by the hour and start paying by real productivity, where the agent helps the user to make more money directly.
A lot of hype. But when I sit down and actually use copilot for things, I'm still underwhelmed.
I found gpt 4, sonnet 3.5 to be better.
The applause from the audience seemed tepid at best. Gives the impression that they can literally see the "writing on the wall". Probably wondering how much longer before Copilot replaces them. 🤔->😰
Expected. AI is here, but .... Microsoft will continue to rule the business world, Google will own consumer information search (eventually), Apple will own personalized device experiences, Facebook / Instagram will own social aside from the TikTok outlier.
I want to see examples. If you can't show it, you either can't figure it out yourself or the results are too embarrassing to share.
1st Respect your employees and treat them well
Idk how people are so delighted with copilot, at least with 4o model. Sometimes its so annoying. Simple method with example how to make it work with new variables and it can not do it 5 times in a row... Maybe with o1 model it would be better.
You want a good measure of current AI? Ask any programmer after using it, just wait a few minutes before the flying objects come to rest. 😵💫
There will be no jobs. Just a few AI tech GIANTS who collect all revenue while the vast majority of humans are left begging for their next UBI disbursement. 😢
Better than having 20-30% dependent on UBI. This idea that the governments of the world will just let the streets run rampant with looting and decay because the super rich are fine is overly nihilistic, I think. If most of the world is dependent on UBI, they're going to have to develop a UBI system that is livable for most people. But if job loss doesn't reach a certain threshold, they can afford to ignore it which will be much worse for those impacted.
Nah. Guns exist.
Microsoft at it's best creating a total mess :) CEO can't even remember all the tool names they came up with. You will end up with endless profiles, accounts and problems at every step. Nothing new...
Google just admit yall copying my start up
Is it just me, or did they just show us the "cool stuff" they helped develop and told us nothig about how?
This was all a hype sales module.
Only Microsoft could make this sound as boring as they did
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So this is just a repost of another channel's content.
i played "Escaping Forever" in a second tab
Dude did you just repost the clip for clicks?
Thank you for this concise recap of the presentation! I would not have watched it on my own. Very useful. I know you'll have a video with your thoughts later but I appreciate the quick info summary very much!
I don’t think scaling “laws” are the thing(s) they think it/ they are.
Agents are becoming a thing for real
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I'm skeptical of people who have a lot to gain from the hype talking about "laws"
Every employee is just an agent. It's hilarious that all these tech CEO types are still selling the dream of ai working alongside humans in the trenches. In reality AI will do the everything. Including CEO.
I guess it's natural for MS to pander to the office customers not doing the most sophisticated things. I would have liked to see more cool coding but then again I use it everyday so no major surprises. Satella was also asked on CNBC the other day, how it's going justifying the 30$ a month and how will they get customers and he skirted that issue like a biden jewish spokesperson.
At least its simple, LMAO.
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Given the windows ecosystem is practically dead - at least in the dev and engineering space what will actually matter is open source agentic systems
People have been claiming Windows is dead for decades, and I've been using Windows devices for that long. As of November 2024, there are approximately 1.4 billion devices running Windows 10 or Windows 11. So, not dead.
@@peace5850no matter how much I dislike Windows (especially 11), I can't deny it's popularity.
The real issue is storage per watt
not token per what
storage effiency is lagging imo...this marketing presentation does noting to instill confedence that that issue is not a parity issue in terms of efficiency
it is like theses guys don't even understand how to use their own products
The laten space of token context seems very inefficient to my mind if the issue of storage is not treated efficiently
"we have 8k models"
Who cares if that reduancy is not error corrected
Typical Microsoft- get out, before its really ready and, wait. I don't think that Purview will be the catchall for Governance, regulatory, ethics and transparency across the whole ecosystem of AI enabled applications and services. I think that Google and AWS will have a view on this as well. I feel it hyper marketing and disingenuous to professionals.
‘Every app will have AI’
Eh
They're even jamming it into Notepad. Microsoft is really leaning on the whole "AI in everything" thing they're doing.
I mean ...has Microsoft been right about AI even once?
Honestly, they made a pretty savvy bet investing in OpenAI.
@@JohnSmith762A11B Yeah, you're right about that one.
am i overreacting or is this fucking huge?
Right now, it looks like a PowerPoint speech to me. Let's see if they actually have something that works.
I don't know, indian dude put me to sleep.
If you are a corprorate drone who makes Powerpoint and Excel documents all day this is an exciting sneak preview of your forthcoming layoff.
It is huge, people are just kinda dumb lol.
I’ve stopped following ai news. I’m sick of the hype
Hahahahaha
Firth!
Last😢
First💖
Enough indian accent for this year.