Secrets of the Deep Dark Web (Deep Dark Web Pt2) - Computerphile
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this guy's facial expressions go from "happy/fun" to
"I've seen stuff... on the dark... web"
+HimKioo erm... ok
***** LOL
***** lol don't worry about it
i was searching for this comment
Nurish the comment don't let it die all must know the horrors
You absolutely shouldn't do your banking on Tor, because you have no idea who might be running the exit node, which is where the last layer of Tor encryption is peeled off. Anyone who runs Tor can operate as an exit node, including hackers (and you can be certain they do just that). The purpose of Tor is to hide your IP address, not protect your data.
They can read and modify any data passing through it, or conduct "Man in the Middle" attacks on HTTPS connections. Essentially, the hacker would pretend to be the bank when interacting with you, and pretend to be you when interacting with the bank. Additionally, there are occasional vulnerabilities discovered in TSL/SSL, and if a hacker has early knowledge of such a vulnerability, they could potentially set up an exit node and let it run for days or weeks gathering data.
You are welcome.
Friend you do, look they exist right there.
VPN over Tor?
That would be better than just Tor, but probably unnecessary. Like I said, the purpose of Tor is to provide anonymity. Encryption is just a means to that end. Unless you want to hide your IP address from your VPN, Tor doesn't really add anything in this situation.
I wouldn't be searching for horses on the dark web if I were you...
I know the Dark Web is a common place for all sorts of sites such as hiring hitmen, buying guns/drugs, gore like 100 times worse than what you see on LiveLeak and weird live killing auctions and other completely wrong stuff. But was there anything specific he was referring to with 'that horse website'?
+Shaun Hutchinson this is actually incorrect, the deep web has almost none of these, as it is heavily monitored, things like "red rooms" have never existed, at the dark webs peak the worst stuff was CP and drugs, nothing else.
shh don't let the illusion for them die.
There are sites where you can "hire" a hitman but there are no reported cases where it actualy worked.
+Shaun Hutchinson I'm guessing he was secretly referring to the amount of beastality including a horse exists on the dark web.
he is sitting on a spring ...
Yea wtf
Yeah that pissed me off as well.
Hahaha
all it is is adhd,
i have the same when i talk about things i am passioned about.
:D doing doing
I'm gonna create the Hipster Web, that way no one will have heard of it.
нєу вяσ уσυ тнєяє
He's using it *before* it's cool.
Did u make it?
yeah bud how’s that going
must have went really well because no one is talking about it
I like this guy but his nervousness is giving me anxiety.
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He’s seen some things on that dark web…
He looks like he's seen some sh!T on the dark web.
I had access dark web recently but it's on you what you search..
@David Cabrera bro use torch search engine. 😊
@Flanks RUclips tor browser, i only use it for torchan. to get to torchan you need to go onto the wiki and find the link, you can only get the user and password if youre on tor
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The description in this video makes it sound like TOR consists of using an alternative to the HTTP protocol over regular IP routing. The truth is exactly the opposite: When you load a web page via TOR, the HTTP protocol being used to load the page is just the standard HTTP protocol (and you can use other IP-based protocols as well), but TOR provides a very different way to route the data from one place to another. The *reason* the word "onion" is used is that every hop on that route has its own encryption key, and you take the data you want to send and encrypt it with the public key of every hop your data is going to be going through -- your data is "wrapped" in many layers of encryption. You send it to the first hop, and it uses its secret private key to remove one layer before forwarding it on to the next hop. This scheme means that data intercepted at any point along the route is completely opaque. It's even opaque to the routing mechanism itself, with the sole exception being the identity of the next hop. Nobody knows where your data is going except you and the data itself. :-)
I’m addicted to learning about the dark web 😩
go on it yourself then trust me it is not bad I have been on there multiple times
deop deop Isn’t it hard to get on it? I thought you have to make it so you can’t be identified or something
@@TL-bi8og I don't have the urge to go on it but honestly, go to a public library? Then again I was born in 1994 so I don't have to say okay Google to learn how to make my bed.
Sorry that was harsh. I just hate today's laziness. You literally have a human brain. One of the most capable things in the universe. Don't waste it, take initiative.
deop deop how do you go on it though
Everyone keeps complaining about the terms he uses and how he describes things. He's not a complete idiot, he's just trying to simplify it so more people understand what he's talking about.
that's if you can understand him, yea he's British his accent is not the the problem. He needs to anunciate, and fix the volume, please?
War
Ogres have layers
CAKE! Everybody loves cake! Cakes have layers!
And they smell like onions
Most hens are layers . . . .
Panda998 no :(
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That was one on the best descriptions of the dark web I've ever seen. You didn't even try and scare anyone!
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The onion web has a lot of layers, but do you know what else has a lot of layers? The ogre web, because as well all know, ogres have layers.
+VeryUnfriendlySpoon I nearly hid a shrek in it.... >Sean
I don’t understand these hacker jokes
@@deidei2305 I heard the best hacking tool is a machete.
Ha ha, i see what you did there.
CAKES!!! Everybody loves cakes! Cakes have layers
He looks and sounds scared like he Experienced and saw something scary
What is scary in Darkweb?
In what means scary?
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dude, this video looks like its made for 5 years olds. What so hard about saying IP, or the onion ROUTER ( aka toR)?
I doubt that Computerphile tries to go for a specific "core audience". Seems more like they try to have a little for all audiences and all levels of understanding.
You probably has never presented any work to the public but this video is made just like a presentation is made in college, you do it so anyone even a guy that has never seen anything related to that can understand what you're talking about.
Lol because knowing this channel you'd expect some more complicated video's. This one is not on the same level, its too generic
Jacob
exactly! its called computephile for a reason, it's not "the casual computer user" channel
It doesn't look like it's made for 5 year olds, as other people have continually stated, his use of terminology is fine. If people want to do more research on their own time, that's their mandate. You can't learn every single one of the concepts he put forward in depth in 12 minutes, so therefore he used generally vague terms. Nothing wrong with that imo for the purposes he is trying to convey.
what are you all complaining about this dude is fantastic
FYI: Anonymity and privacy are mutually exclusive.
Anonymity means nobody knows who they are talking to, so everyone can speak their mind.
Privacy means everybody involved knows who they are talking to, so nobody else can listen in.
Both require encryption.
TOR, because it was mentioned, provides anonymity, but not privacy.
SSL may provide privacy, but certainly not anonymity.
Nicely stated.
Oh boy, I can't wait for the edgy comments.
Replying to you by TOR, using the darkweb. Consider yourself hacked :)
Yuri Bezmenov
Too bad I'm behind 42 proxies
this comment is edgy!
*****
I SAID, OH BOY, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE EDGY COMMENTS
What, like comments about knives?
This guy's ability to explain things is top class. Big thumbs up fro me.
He used .274 in an IP address. 274>255 (The max value).
that was probably so people don't try to go to that IP address
to quote dave chappelle "wonder why in movies they have fake phone numbers? Its so dumbasses dont go and try to call scooby doo
+cfdj43 There are special IP ranges dedicated to this purpose: tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5737
+David Buchanan yes but he's making it up on the fly so is unlikely to know one of those off the top of his head
Technically, 254, 255 is used for broadcasting.
9:42 I would most definitely not use Tor to do online banking. While it is true that your data is more secure while travelling, the fact that the unencrypted* data comes out of an exit node that can be set up by practically anyone means that by using Tor to browse the outside web, you are giving the operator of the exit node the possibility to pull a man in the middle attack on you without you ever knowing. I'd much rather use a VPN tunnel to a trusted VPN Service or to my home, where I know that the exit node is not reading my traffic. Or at least set up Tor to use a trusted exit node (good luck finding those).
*I know that you still use SSL encryption when exiting the tor network, but then what's the point of using it? You're just exposing yourself to someone else in this case. The only thing protecting you is still just the SSL certificate.
Except for that little mishap, this was a great and informative video :)
This is just what I was coming down here to ask; wouldn't the increased anonymity of the dark web make it a lot easier to set up an "evil node" that performs unsavory actions on the traffic flowing through it?
I'M Running Thaangs Thanks for the correction, I'm still mixing those two up. Well I'll eventually learn it :P
Justin Macak While exit nodes are monitored, as ***** correctly mentioned, that doesn't mean there aren't any black sheep.
boynedmaster Yes, https (TLS) does that, but there is no flawless encryption. Think of heartbleed for example. While in theory, TLS should be secure, it does have errors in it's implementation. And the exit node always has the option to just save all traffic going to any bank services and then later decrypt it when annother bug in the implementation is found. If if you are still using the same login by that time, they would have your login.
Jan H. TLS really breaks down when you don't use a trusted certificate as a man in the middle could intercept your TLS handshake and inject it's own tls(/ssl) cert while keeping the one from the site you're accessing. This would give you the illusion of HTTPS where in reality an attacker has given you your cert.
Browsers of Course will immediately notify you, normally, but with tor if you register your tls cert you're giving up your anonymity. This wouldn't be a problem with your bank tho as you could easily verify it with a CRT.
Como entro ?
Why can't they call it the layer cake web, if it only is called "onion web" for the layers.
+sundur Maybe they watched Shrek too many times! >Sean
Shrek is love, Shrek is life...
Because you can see all the layers of a layer cake from the side. You must peel off each layer to see see down into an onion.
DONKEHH
The layer cake web is a lie.
I realize this is super overview level. But you really should use the technical terms where they are short. "Special Link" is fine to describe it, but say "IP Address" so someone can look up more info if they want. Same with TOR. Say "The Onion Router" and say that the onion uses "TLS Encryption in layers" and people can do more research.
***** Sorry that I assume people watching videos like this are looking to learn something. Silly me.
a video should be made just like a presentation is done, by explaining so anyone can undestand even if the guy watching you has never seen anything related and probably doesn't want to know many things besides the minimum.
These are educational videos, why not make them tell everything?
All their videos are like this. They're not university lectures, they're 12 min videos that summarise. If you want to learn more it's really not hard to do.
If someone wants to learn more they will. And it is very easy to do so. However, is someone doesn't or is indifferent, no amount of IP, TCP, UDP, the onion router, ssl, https, encryption, mysql or rofl will get them to actively look for what they mean.
"It's probably safer to do your online banking in a public place if you encrypt it first" (implied: with Tor)
Hehe, what a brilliant idea I can't wait to try that out
6:37 Chrome: "Oh, here's ponyclub, kiddo"
Tor: "Oh, here's [insert randomly generated code of a bit more controversial site about horses]"
The best explanation of the deep/dark web I've heard.
9:55 Let's do onlinebanking in a public internet cafe through tor. What could possibly go wrong? xD
if you have enough encryption maybe nothing.
Ruben
Yeah, "maybe nothing". The last tor-node is able to make a MITM-Attack and that's quite fatal.
Tor is (more or less) anonymous, but that doesn't mean that it is secure.
Valverde
if you are in a public place everyone can make a man in the middle attack
Ruben
If you use Tor: not really. At least, it is hard.
In that case someone would more likely try to attack the computer directly
HTTPS should protect against MITM, though Tor would add nothing other than anonymity.
95% is not even close to 500 times bigger than 5%...
It wasn't referring to facebook, facebook was given as an example that would be consistent with the 95% estimate. He clearly equated 5:95 with 1:500, but is absurd.
Give them a break, it's not Numberphile.
not saying it's important, just wanted to see if I'd missed something and misunderstood that conversation :P
Completely off topic, but he looks so grounded and calm as a person^^
CALM?
It's really astonishing just how much of the internet functions on the premise of just saying "please follow these protocols" and everyone (mostly) going "yeah okay"
It'd be interesting to know how much of the Web that the Google spider can't see is seen through other Google services like ads, social media buttons or Google Analytics.
Do not do online banking on tor, do not log in to any account you use on the clear net.
"that page about horses which is on the dark web"
I don't want to know what he has been watching :)
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I've heard 2 things: 1. Tor had a breech recently, and hasn't fully recovered. 2. There are people who want to leave the shallows that are infested with CP, and are going deeper as a defense against those who would abuse.
Sneakers is one of my all time favorite movies. So happy about the reference.
Reminds me of the Rave checkpoints we used to set up:)
"Google doesn't look at them because it was asked not to".
Yea. Right.
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finally someone who explains stuff right. normally terms get mixed up by narrators on youtube.
thank you for educating the world with the right terms for the right things!
Right terms like special link, show me panda shoes and the onion browser? 😂
Sideways video is sideways....you guys really didn't try to hard on this one did you? He's quite literally bouncing around, looking down for over half the time, tried saying 274 could be part of an IPv4 address....
He has many horse websites under his belt
I got a emoji movie ad at the start of this too...TOTALY THE DEEP WEB!!!
4:36 'went past 1 trillion pages not too long ago' Well it's at 130 trillion now, so that's a thing.
I don’t know why people want to use the dark web I feel creeped out lol
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Was this guy interviewed in a bouncy castle?
Plot twist: The camera was
Was this guy interviewed in a bouncy castle?
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"Yeah, I'm on the deep web"
Did his IP address ended with 274?
+Matt Sturgeon That's not actually the reason, is it? That would be genius...
That's impossible....
Eh, tor doesn't use IP addresses (at least for the most part).
It uses p2p, connects from countries to countries from people. The ip is very temporary and changes everytime you load a new page
Correct, and Distributed Hash Tables is the magic behind P2P.
Was he sat on an exercise ball?
Y'all play too much😂😂
First read: secrets of the deep dank web.
Much different subject.
Somewhere in a cupboard.. 2 men... and a torchlight.
Boy, was this frustrating to watch.
It's one of those situations where there's lots of small mistakes and inaccuracies peppered around that it becomes overwhelming to keep track of them all, but none of them stand out as particularly egregious to be called out on their own.
I heard no mistakes. Yes, he simplified things, but that's because this video is for people who don't know this stuff already.
he's simplifying a lot. the idea is that people who don't really know what DW is get an idea.
Ugh, I can't believe it, right? It's so annoying being smarter than a guy that has 97 publications and has been cited over a thousand times. But he's wrong not us, because we're smart.
Quiet, Linux nerd!
50 FEET WALL!!
most interesting video I've seen in a long time.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how Google stores their links to websites and make them accessible to the search engine? I mean, what data structure do they use? A tree? A hashmap? A linked list? A combination of them?
Why does everything seem to revolve around Google? Maybe I'm a bit slow but seriously he keeps referring to what google can and can not do
"don't use flash" I would if I could, guy
'Turn your facebook page unpublic to make it part of dark web' - oh the lulz we had.
*deep web
He said _deep_ web, not _dark_ web.
I got more annoyed than I probably should have by him repeatedly saying 'that's why it called the onion web' It's called TOR not TOW!
He’s clearly European you dunce
Can someone tell me why this guy is constantly looking at his script??? Could he just not be bothered to try and learn it?
They don't have tonnes of time to prep for these things.
One of the strangest things about tor is that it's funded by the U.S. government.
I heard it was originally developed by the US navy.
I think it was originally designed for the military either way it's still used by a lot of countries and governments
Strange? It was developed for security and anonimity and thats why government researchers came up with it.
+Jane Black It's reasonably common for these kinds of technologies to be licensed out for products targeted at the general public at a very watered down level, or after their replacements have been deployed with ISA protections via the PTO, as a way to make back (some of) the money invested in the R&D for military purposes.
personally i distrust the US Government so trusting TOR would be a big ask for me
If it is 5%, then it is 20 times bigger, not 500 times bigger... That is just how Math works...
that was referring to just Facebook not the entire deeep web
Deep maths is different. Its like a different language.
This was in 2016, the year before the invention of the tripod. Interesting stuff, a nightmare to watch.
I can't understand this guy
Hey nubebuster, how's spigot? ;)
He probably can't understand you either.
This video in a nutshell : deep web is deep
I like the recapes at the end.
What's with the dutch angle??
Techie offices are always so messy. Look at the monitor up near the ceiling!!
Is the deep web still deep since it's so mainstream? If any bored teenager can surf it, why couldn't the police?
they can and they do..
Does it mean that every time you go on facebook and you log in you go into the deep web ?
yes
how secure is whatsapps "new" end to end encryption? :)
Nope. Use Signal or Wire instead.
Silk Road has been shut down for years, dude.
oh noes he didn'T give us the adress of a current drug website...
Silk road 3.0 is still rolling
Oh, I guess you're right. But, it's just a bunch of people who thought they would get more business by putting 'silk road' in the title. Alphabay is the most popular market now.
Uh, I never said anything about the address, just the name. Also, they sell everything from counterfeit money to stolen Netflix accounts.
At 4:50... 500 times bigger. Great maths there...
He brought up the silk road but didn't mention repressive journalism at all?
1 trillion pages in 2008 i think
That sewer to meeting stuff, I do it everyday.
So only the last 5 min of these 2 parts are interesting.
What googlers are you talking about ? like Von Neumann computer wester digital ?
Anyone else get the feeling that this guy isn't very advanced in this field?
Well he supervises PhD students and has 97 publications according to a quick search. He's using simple words and simplifying things because that's the point of this channel.
@6:00 "And so there are several dark webs on the internet"
TOR network was discussed.
What are the others?
Love how he uses Google as the only example of a search engine, lol =D
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Why exactly is this entire video at a Dutch angle? It's very disorienting, like the movie Battlefield Earth
Online banking on Tor, no thanks.
Suggest you to at least enable the audible closed caption. Easier for non native English speakers to go through your videos.
Bouncy bouncy bouncy!
So... Does that mean pretty much most of RUclips is unknown to google seeing as it is mostly on the Dark Web?
I get the sense that this guy does not have any knowledge on this topic and is simply reading off of a script
Why is that?
Same
saw many explanations but didn't understand as much as I did now. thx cheers!
Is this an advert for Google? There are other search engines, some of which return much less commercial results.
The problem is that all the other search engines are vastly inferior.
Not exactly, the same thing ("Deep Web" = sites that weren't indexed yet, that require passwords, etc) goes not only for Google, but for those search engines as well. Google is the most well-known and by far the most used search engine, so it makes sense to use it as an example. Granted, they could have named DuckDuckGo as an alternative for example, but it doesn't change the context of what he's saying.
No you're missing the point. He is using the name of a commercial product. It's a bit like saying Mercedes when what you really mean are cars.
I do appreciate Google is used far more but I don't regard Bing as inferior - in fact it often returns results that Google ignores. Do some side -by-side comparisons searching for the same terms in both and I guarantee Bing will return a larger results set with much more granular material. I the effort to combat spam, Google's results have become too refined, ignoring a lot of useful material IMHO.
*****
:-) I would hate it if someone said Starbucks if they really meant coffee!
TeejayX6 brought me here
said nothing about i2p
I need some help about Rediffmail OTP. Any idea????
How do I make a web server on the dark web? Can I put Adsense on sites on the dark web?
seems like someone has some knowledge about dark web horse websites. hint hint
What are horse websites
I like how you say that google doesnt look because it was asked not to, makes it sound very cute
@You need magnesium. yeah thats what I mean, google the program, not google the corporation. programs can be cute, corporations can't
on the dark web, no one knows you're an Ogre
I think people like me who knows what web / deep web / dark web are, dont really gain any new information from this video. But other people just won't understand anything about this. Well, I still liked the video.
At about the 4 minute mark, he gave an example IP address of 1.128.193.274... Anyone else think that's rather silly?
What about tor in China?
This is so poorly explained,not even correct.Looks like this guy does not know what's he talking about.Like his source of information is just some blog post.
Care to inform us which parts are misinformation? Or share your source?
How do you go about finding a reliable vendor on the dark web?
*Very well explained*