The Lord of the Rings in Concert: The Bridge of Khazad Dum +Kaitlyn Lusk solo live in Sacramento
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- Опубликовано: 23 окт 2011
- The final segment of the Mines of Moria scene. Gandalf faces the Balrog as the Fellowship flees. Conductor Ludwig Wicki did a fantastic job leading The Munich Symphony, Pacific Chorale, vocal soloist Kaitlyn Lusk, and the Phoenix Boys Choir in a full symphonic performance of Howard Shore's score for The Lord of The Rings: The Fellowship of The Ring. This performance was on 10/23/2011 at the Power Balance Pavilion in Sacramento, California.
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Imposible to watch this without my mother cutting onions downstairs.
Looool righhhhht
Yup Truly i try i cant hold ...
Omg that is hilarious
so true
You're comment made my mother cut unions
that girl doing the solo was incredible!
Her name is Kaitlyn Lusk :)
Take off your jacket and stay awhile it’s in the title😂
That’s my trombone teacher’s daughter
I agree
Take off your jacket and stay awhile 6:45 how old is she, now?
"I will not say 'do not cry,' for not all tears are an evil."
I got goosebumps reading your comment :O
Brandon Wei *weep, but yeah.
*Weep my fellow Hobbit
Wtfffffff I instantly cried mate
NO todas las lagrimas son amargas
"Give them a moment, for pity's sake!" That line always resonated with me. Even though Boromir tried to take the ring. The moment showed his humanity for what just happened.
the duality of Boromir's character really parallels what it is to be human. sound the horn of gondor!
Boromir is the most relatable character. He’s the most human. He’s very underrated.
He did redeem himself in the end after he tried to take the ring.
@@alexanderellinburg7425 it’s often in the short moments before death we find the most clarity. Like how your life flashes before your eyes.
Boromir was a good man. He was just as weak as everybody else for the corrupting powers of the ring. Even Aragorns ancestor Isildur was weak for the rings corruption.
one of the greatest , or maybe the greatest scene of whole trilogy
Specially when they fall into the water
Maybe ? No sir , This is the greatest fantasy book ever writen and movie directed.
Greatest scene in the movie, both music and what's going on in the film, yes I agree 100%.
The whole Moria sequence starting from the Balin's Tomb is probably the best action piece ever done in cinema.
Duilio Murai Not a Single Doubt about that
I get why everyone talks about the solo, but MAN do I get goosebumps with the male choir doing all that chanting. ESPECIALLY the crescendo as the stairs begin to crumble and the fellowship has to jump/be thrown across.
The hand of God was on Howard Shore as he composed this and nobody can convince me otherwise.
I would cry so hard during this whole thing if I were there. So beautiful.
+Connor Potasse My eyes watered when I heard that vocal from Kaitlyn. I couldn't believe it! Not many people can sing that well on such a big concert like that. God "keep" bless her voice!
+Connor Potasse you can buy the tickets now! they are on world tour again
+Connor Potasse I don't even have to be there :'(
Kati Holmes marry me
I'll think about it :p
RIP Christopher Lee. You will be missed!
I may be feeding the troll here... But Christopher Lee played Saruman, not Gandalf.
@@benc640 still we remember him
@@benc640 So? Lee was a huge part of lotr. Why is he trolling?
que en paz descanse !
@@lilskinny9141 using an actors death to farm likes on a video without said actor or even a mention of him or his role should be considered shameful. yes, may Sir Christopher Lee rest in peace, but get out of here with your fake mourning
6:43 She's perfection.
So many memories came back. Can't believe my eyes are filled. *Give them a moment for pity's sake.*
*By nightfall these hills will be swarming with orcs!*
We must reach the woods of Lothlorien!
Come, Boromir. Legolas, Gimli. Get them up.
On your feet, Sam.
Frodo?... Frodo!
If anyone is interested in what the choir are singing, its dwarvish:
Ubzar ni kâmin
Aznân taburrudi
Iklal tanzifi bashukimâ
Ubzar ni kâmin
gilim Sanzigil
shakar ra udlag
Ubzar ni kâmin
Tada aklat gagin
Ugrûd tashurrukimâ.
Maku kataklutimâ?
Askad gabil
Tashifati ni azanân
Kâmin takalladi!
Tabriki! Takarraki!
Maku zatansasimâ?
Urus!
Urus ni buzra!
Arrâs talbabi fillumâ, fillumâ!
Ugrûd tashniki kurdumâ, kurdumâ!
Lu! Lu! Lu!
Urkhas tanakhi!
Urkhas tanakhi!
Translated:
Deeper into the earth.
The dark grows heavy.
Cold snaps our bones.
Deeper into the earth.
There, the glint of Mithril
sharp and far away.
Deeper into the earth.
That sound again
Dread surrounds us.
Can no one hear us?
A great shadow
Moves in the dark.
The earth shakes!
Cracks! Splits!
Will no one save us?!
Fire!
Fire in the deep!
Flames lick our skin, our skin!
Fear rips our heart, our heart!
No! No! No!
The demon comes!
The demon comes!
When is the choir singing this? I can't tell. Could you, please, do the honors? Thank you!!!
buenfield Are you joking? They start at 0:38 and continue until 6:00 where the Balrog falls
I know that. The thing is that they don't use the full poem. They use a few verses and that got me confused. I did a little searching and I found which verses they use.
+Stelios Kontos Flames lick our skin!, Fear Rips our heart! No! No! No!
You absolute legend
OMG I’m one of the boys in the choir up there! Hearing her sing this live every night was just sheer perfection. It always gave me goosebumps
Luke Poupore you all did a very good Job! and yes she made me cry a tear
so cool you're part of this great performance!
Beautiful work
One of the best performances ever !! Is there any other music left ??
Yes. ... But sometimes it MUST be the orchestra playing The Lord of the Rings. Plain & simple.
The best of the best.
YOU WERE SO LUCKYYYYYYY!!!! Her voice is soooo beautiful. And you all did an amazing job. Wonderful performance!
She derves credit.. She sounds feckin beautifull
"Fecking Beautiful" You stole my line....
@@Ben-zh4nz huh?
Burak not really
She is credited
7:02 yes, she is.
I was there Gandalf, i was there 9 years ago, when these musicians took my heart. I was there when my strength not to cry failed.
6:43 daaaamn..... that voice man, so fucking perfect
Yes, I'm surprised she hit the perfect pitch live. Amazing.
This scene alone beats all the hobbit movies combined... I mean I like the hobbit movies for what they are, but there was never a moment in them quite like this.
+Casey Olson You have to remember that Tolkien wrote The Hobbit intended for children, and LOTR intended for adults. They are bound to feel a little different.
+Shannon Harris Indeed, the Hobbit was meant for children. But they made the Hobbit books in three movies which was totally bad idea. The Hobbit book is like half as big as one of the LotR books. They just tried to squeeze some more money out of the franchise.
ThaMobstarr no they didn't. There was no way to capture all the great moments in the book into one movie
Adam Oberembt are you kidding me? The hobbit trilogy was an entire money grab by Hollywood. The book is only about 300 pages, which is shorter then the lotr books. They didn't have enough material to work to stretch it to 3 movies, which is why they were so awful and cgi filled compared to the lotr movies. Peter jackson only wanted to do one movie but some other higher up people felt it was a good opportunity to make more money. I watch the original lotr movies all the time, but I've never went back and watched the hobbits since the theater.
one movie would have been enough, maximum was two. The part i didnt understand they added filler stuff like this dwarf/elve interacial love story and the hole pale orc shit, yet when they could have added more flavour to the whole thing (what was smaug all about? where did he come from, what about the lake city)
Everyone is Talking about the Solo when Gandalf Falls. I'm here just admiring the badassery of that choir and orchestra for when the fellowship is running from the Balrog. My favorite piece of the soundtrack in all of Lotr.
My favourite bit is @3:54 with the Fellowship motif playing once Aragorn and Frodo make it to safety, it’s in a way triumphant but also subdued as the danger with the Balrog has not passed yet.
Amazing stuff!
Good to know I'm not alone in my tastes.
Gimme a hand, brother!
@@andrewburgemeister6684 From this moment to the "You Shall Not Pass" is extremly epic. I would immediatly buy my ticket for this kind of concert if it were to pass by my country
when she started i couldnt hold it anymore
isto, kakav glas
same. I didn't imagine it would be so powerful.
Aye, I shat myself as well
Same here dude... Fuck man
This scene is not only one of the best in the film, but also in the best film trilogy ever. The moment when Boromir says "Give them a moment for pity's sake!" is the reason why the first film is my favorite. Boromir shows himself as the most human of them all. He who feels more then thinks, and is flawed more than he cares to admit, easily corrupted into take the "easy way out" cause being brave against overwhelming odds feels hopeless. The most beautiful and most human comes then in the ending when he also still keeps fighting those odds to protect the fellowship he has just failed. Such a masterpiece in every way. Thank you Tolkien, and Peter Jackson, Howard Shore and Sean Bean
Book Boromir > film Boromir. The movies did him dirty. I wish they showed more of his bravery like you were talking about.
I cannot agree more. And yes, thank you Tolkien, and Peter Jackson, Howard Shore and Sean Bean
6:25 That is the most gut-wrenching 'No' I have ever heard in any movie, period!
Elijah Wood was great in that scene.
Same :((
lmao please, you weak. battle of helms deep was better
Yes this scene & last scene in The Return of King when Eomer finds Eowyn ‘dead’ in the fields
MsKoki57 yes!!! That moment 😭🙌🏻
Beautiful performance
yeah but quality is worst :(
The moment (6:43) Kaitlyn Lusk released that raw talent of emotional chords with that angelic voice of hers... It gives me shivers with tremendous amounts of tears followed.
If this song were anymore epic than this, I would have a heart attack.
Epic its not the word to describe it, but pure, beautiful,blissful and sad at the same time
*was
Not trying to be rude but how is this song epic, the first half is supposed to be fearful anxiety and the second half grief and melancholy
@@symbolitical4158 I’m mostly referring to the first half. There is a big powerful choir and orchestra performing as the scene builds up to Gandalf’s encounter with the Balrog on the Bridge of Khazad Dum.
still tears in my eyes, after all those years
SmokingBirds allways
Always
Always
Always
Always
probably second best scene, second to only Théoden showing up for the battle at Minas Tirith
Every scene is a best scene
King Théoden RIDE OF THE ROHIRRIM!
Tbh,
Best scenes:
1. Theoden arrives at Minas Tirith
2. Eomer arrives at Helms Deep
3. This scene
(You can argue wether 2&3 should swap places)
Phillip Helmut Eomer has the coolest helmet in MiddleEarth. Prove me wrong ;).
The lighting of the beacons
If my camera battery didn't die I would have recorded her performance of "May It Be" during the credits as well. It was incredible.
Thanks for uploading!!!
"On your feet, Sam". Probably the most touching, moving sentence in the whole of this fabulous trilogy.
The choir makes this scene. Hats off to the writers and to the performers!
dwarwish the perfect language for that choir
This song gets 10 times better if you understand what is being chanted in the earlier part of the song. "Fire in the deep! / Flames lick our skin! / Fear rips our heart! / No! No! No! / The demon comes" When Howard Shore combines that with all those 5ths in the orchestra, and the brass section, the result is awe-inspiring. I was crying all the way through the first half. (And wonderful solo at the end of course)
I saw The Return Of The King at the Royal Albert Hall in London, with full orchestra and soloists. Oh, and we got to meet Howard Shore afterwards. EPIC.
Boris Müller I’m going to Wellington next month mainly to go to Weta!
WOW. Saw Two Towers orchestra here in Calgary, Canada. Best concert I've been to. 2400 people. Big crowd but nothing like RAH.
Wow! Definitely was pleasantly surprised to see the amount of awesome feedback on my footage. It was one of the most amazing experiences I have had and the purpose of this video is my attempt at sharing it with everyone! I think I read somewhere in the comments that people wished I had filmed the screen more at certain parts. To you guys I just have to say I paid for the ticket and travelled 100 miles to see the musicians perform this score and that was my priority so sorry :)
Thank you for providing this. Its fantastic and cant find it anywhere else than RUclips.
GORDSLINGER scene gave me chills in the theater in 2001. Thank you!
I didn't even acknowledge that there are shows that show both the film and the music concert like this, until I found your video. Thank you so much for sharing with us.
I would definitely look for a chance to see one.
Thank you for this masterpiece. I've been looking back for that particular video. The solo is unmatched on youtube!
Where did you catch this performance?
5:40 the skill of the male choir to manage air for at least 15 seconds is absolutly crazy.
Shivers, shivers, shivers down my spine.
Gandolf falling (to his alleged death) was more about "hope" possibly being lost for the Fellowship of the Ring, as opposed to him actually passing away...Definitely a powerful scene, in more ways than one.
+Ruhi Ellis And the legendary phrases "You shall not pass!" and "Fly you fools!" are probably two of the most iconic movie phrases of the 90s and 00s. Ian McKellen really delivered the whole scene on the Bridge of Khazad Dum perfectly. His acting skills are amazing.
Is that your interpretation?
It was Christian propaganda for him to be resurrected like Christ.
@@Sarah-no7lv or A representation of the rebirth of Odin when he casted his eyes into the well for wisdom?
Gandolf
This scene already makes me cry so much. When Ian Mckellen dies, how sad am i going to be when i watch this scene and the movies. I can't imagine :(
He comes back so...
Carter Khoury I know he does. But the fellowship think he's dead. And that scene is sad as fuck anyway.
Paradigm Shift oh yeah!
MrPhantom95 but the day he realy dies! Then he cant get back :( Sir Christopher lee is gone r.i.p. Saruman
He ain't dead m8, calm your horses
4:58 , the fellowship has witnessed probably the most important and unbelievable key moment in the third age.
4:35 - Chants + epic trumpet + heartpounding breathless drums = teary eyes + goosebumps
Chicken Mike my favorite part
Omg my favourite part tooo!!! The way the music matches the camera as it pans over the fellowship as they run across the bridge is god tier - this bits not in the bridge of khazad dum track though? Also the walk of the Balrog as they run away - I saw this live at the Royal Albert hall this year, was an outer body experience must be said aha
Did anyone notice that Asian kid near the woman in the red dress wipe his tear
He thought gandalf died
And can you blame him?? That angelical voice can give you the feels man.... THE FEELS!!
darthvader0219 7:18 for you folks
not only him. This 1 step higher also had tear
I cried a river always when I hear this!!! And I hear this maybe fifty times
If I could be there, I would cry an ocean!!!
I'll always think of my grandmother when I hear that solo. The angels are calling her into heaven
Carl Mahape
Hope you're doing well, man.
her voice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKK
angel ?
3:15 my favourite moment. I don't know why, but I love that part.
SAME!!
that part because of the music, and you shall not pass, for obvious reasons
That choir had me ready for battle....... AWESOME
I’m 33 years old and watch trilogy twice a year as I can miss it while I’m eating or walking, so I watch them, but, will feel incompetent to tell to anyone that this what I do, coz someone may not understand and they mock and laugh,…. (Experienced truth)
Let it be my love secret for the rest of my life to watch them every year …. ❤
Just to add on : it’s the same with first 3 part of the Pirates of the Caribbean ❤😊
Literally crying
the best epic song in the history of the humanity on a movie
Erick Maneiro this score isn’t epic at all. It’s supposed to reflect the amount of despair the Fellowship is feeling.
Rowen Starchild imagine what shit will Amazon do with this tolerance stuff and today’s trends,when people don’t care about quality of the project but about money and how to be polite with these “minorities”. I’m so scared about LoTR now,damn.
I thought ANGELS DOESN'T exist I was wrong WOW!!! 6:35
They live on the moon of Iego I think
Simply the best movie made!
the greatest one
Perhaps no the single Movie but I would defend it to be the Greates Trilogy ever made.
My favorite part hands down is the chanting 1:32
Holy crap, I was here, in this exact concert, I almost cried during the female solo.
Dude, she could sing me to sleep.
Movie (and my favorite of all time at that) WITH Live Symphony?! 😯 How did I not ever know this was even a thing that existed until now??? 🤯 I usually never use this phrase but literally just take all my money. Seriously though how often do they do this and how can I get a ticket? P.S. and that girl???? THAT BEAUTIFUL girl with the voice of an absolute ANGEL?! My goodness!!! I’m awe-struck. I mean what can I say? I’m left completely speechless by her haunting yet angelic voice that pierces right through my very soul. Wow what an absolute gift she has. And I love the emotion she not only conveys through her voice, but also just the look on her face while she’s singing really drives it home even more...the sense of despair...and you can really tell she is feeling the music and connecting to the story as she sings and just really letting that empathy and sympathy for the characters guide her voice so that the audience can therefore also feel it and relate to it even more strongly that way and it makes it hit that much harder when you see the expression she has on her face while singing. She must not be a stranger to the loss of a loved one (or ones) if I had to guess, just based off this performance/video. Incredible. Absolutely brilliant and magnificent and beautiful. Great, very great job to all involved and thanks to the uploader of the video as well!
Goblins and Fellowship are both like "who are those guys making the music?" XD
"Dunno, I like it though. Let's not shoot 'em"
Warren Lloyd I can see that happening 😂
I just want play this in every lotr actor's funeral
I've even made a list for every LOTR actor if they leave this world.
@@combineadvisorwithinternet6040 can you write it in there?
@@combineadvisorwithinternet6040 write it please if you can :)
Great Goblin of Goblin Town could you please write it here?
Christoper Lee has already left us unfortunately
This track is always epic and heart wrenching when you see the fellowship pause to gather their breath after escaping the mines and wipe for their fallen friend Gandalf.
Gosh I'm getting teary eye as well.
The amnount of percussions and choirs is definitely part of which all these tracks sounds so epicly good.
Not even a massive LOTR fan but always come back to this, such a powerful scene.
Movies are such an amazing blend of so many different art forms. From the writing of the book, to screenplay adaption, to cinematography, to set design, to character design, to visual effects, to acting, to writing the music, musical performance, and so on. So many skilled, talented people have to come together to create a movie like this.
YES! You exactly explained why I love film so much.
The doctor: You have 9 minutes left.
Me:
3:55 is pure joy
Everyone talking about Gandalf dying and nobody praising the mens choir for that amazing performance!
That woman.... once she started singing, i burst into tears. it so so beautiful and accurate
Смотреть свой самый любимый фильм под живую музыку - это просто запредельная мечта
I am not crying, something got in my eyes..
I know this is just a movie, but for me this is so much more. Best trilogy of all time
“After all this time?”
Me: “Always”
Kaitlyn Lusk voice is overwhelming !!!, beautiful voice!.
2020 3020 or 4020 still amazing, forever...
The minute the woman sings, i begin to cry, its so powerful. Love it.
Ни зря трилогия получила столько наград!!
Браво!!!
@7:20 did any1 else see the choir boy wipe a tear from his face besides me . That's a sign from him being emotionally amazed by Kaitlyn's voice . God bless him .
Wells its either that or he had a slight itch on the side of his nose lol
This trilogy and its music has been my life since I can remember. I don't say this lightly, but without it I probably wouldn't be alive today. Absolutely changed my life.
I wish I could watch this trilogy for the first time again. no film will ever come to its equal.
OMG That conductor.... he's like waterbending
6:43-7:34 its like an angel is singing! its so beautiful! Moments like this makes me feel that life is so special! AMAZING!!!!
6:43-7:34 me too.
The whole Mines of Moria is edge of the seat stuff from beginning to end. What a BRILLIANT movie PJ made
I could watch this scene a thousand times and her solo would cut as deep each time. I wipe away tears as of if I were grieving
"give them a moment ! for fuck sake !"
I'm here after the Rise of Skywalker. I need the best cinema has to offer after that. God what a masterpiece of film.
This is the culinary equivalent of spending your life savings on the finest available dining after eating a piece of gum stick on a bus seat.
@@jacksonscott3667 Yup
Look at this dude, this trilogy is a hundred times better than star wars
@@xanaxmkv I think you misunderstood what i wrote.... As badly as you can....
iag0_exe 😂
You can tell everyone around Caitlyn on stage were as mesmerised by her performance as the audience were. My god the voice she has is phenomenal!
i wish the vocals went longer
Think thats part what makes it so good.
Me too.
Пишу тем, кто знает русский: от этой композиции мурашки по коже. Правда?
Да
Абсолютно
Kaitlyn Lusk is just exceptional here. Her voice brings tears to my eyes. Bravo :)
21 orcs disliked this video
The Balrog too..
21 Ents*, everyone knows Ents hate cinema. Psht, duh.
Actually if that is the extended version, the nets would love it! U know, cause they like it super s l o w!
Touché
Ratul Majumder Damn you and your beautiful logic. Well played.
The whole staircase scene would've seemed really goofy and pointless were it not for the music. The chanting and the intensity and everything about it just amplified the tension a millionfold, making the entire scene that much more epic and amazing. The soundtrack to these movies were brilliant, but this scene's score was perfection.
When gandalf fells down from the bridge song of this scene make me cry
The lord of the ring is the best movie ever seen
The voice of the woman is the voice of God...
6:48 what’s her name?
I watched this scene in the theater and in front of me were three mega fans, a girl sitting between two guys, all dressed in full LOTR regalia. When Gandalf slipped into the void, the girl screamed "GANDALF NOOOO!" and she began to cry. With tears welling in my own eyes I thought, "Will we ever see the like of this kind of film again? This masterpiece of a generation?" That my friends, is the powerful combination of books, music and cinema. And if there was ever a soundtrack for the world at this moment in time, "The Death of Gandalf" would be the music I would pick. The world sorely needs its heroes now.
I'm going in September to The Lord of the Rings in Concert in the Netherlands. Watching this already gave me tear. I can't wait to see this live. I think live this will be so much more spectacular.
Kaitlyn Lusk's voice just has this quality of sorrow and despair in this song that just makes me feel so....overwhelmed by its emotion and sheer beauty. I can't think of many other compositions that affect me in such a way. The true test of this song, for me, is that it returns me to the point in time when I first saw this film, and heard the song. I will always feel the same. Haunting beauty.
Watched this in Florence a few years ago. It was outstanding.
The male chorus at 1:23 and 3:13 was really strong!
You don't pay attention to that when you watch the movie on tv.
I was at a screening of this movie with live orchestra in Rotterdam, Netherlands some 20 years ago. I was on the first ring, looking down on the orchestra from the side, much closer than this camera viewpoint, and the seats next to me were empty at first. Great was my surprise when half the choir took those seats! Sitting next to that choir so closely was one of the best experiences of my life, especially during this scene! I can't remember wich section of the choir it was, but it could have been the men.
The first time I saw this as a young boy I cried my eyes out. If i saw this with the orchestra live, i might die of sadness.
Every synonym that exists for the word “masterpiece”, the dictionary simply states “see The Lord of The Rings trilogy”
GIVE THEM A MOMENT FOR PITY SAKE..""" AND HIS ACCENT ..WOW
Yes!!!! Ikr
That solo almost had me in tears at the cinema. Goosebumps stuff. Emotion overload.
I am booked in with my girlfriend on the 10th December to see this at the Bridgewater hall in manchester. Cannot stop watching this video
MAN! That was epic..
Sometimes I wish that I lived in the Middle Earth. Just enjoying the food and the company of the hobbits on the Shire. It seems to me that this Tolkien's world is more beautiful than ours. But then I realize this world is created by people like us that live in this earth. The books, the stories, the movies and everything behind (the music, the acting...) Doesn't make this earth hopeful knowing that we can create such a beautiful world?
The hairs on my arm are about to leave my body. They are jumping as HELL!. Jesus! I can't get enough of this trilogy. This is PERFECT!!!!!!
I saw this live in NYC. I was crying The Whole time.
It was amazing. This gives me the best flashbacks.
Everyone bashing the hobbit needs to pull back a bit. Peter Jackson wasn't allowed to make those films because he "HAD" to sue New Line Cinema who was not paying out a lot of contracts they agreed to pay. New Line said and i quote "We will never hire Peter again" But a year later the hobbit director Guillermo del Toro left because the project because it couldn't get a green light (Mind you two years of pre production from locations, costumes, effects, props, and the screen play were all done and ready to go. Desperate for a director who could handle the work load New Line begged Peter to take the helm as he was the ONLY director who could handle this project. The hobbit was Del Toro's project not PJ, and Jackson has said many time i would have made the movies differently if they had given them to me. But instead he had to use what Toro had already spent two years putting together. Mind you i really dislike the hobbit films, but PJ tried his best to salvage it, no need to bash him and his crew in.
Dude, what are you even talking about? PJ was involved since DAY ONE and worked with del Toro as one of the screenwriters for the entire film series from the get-go. It was even PJs push to make it a trilogy. There had been no filming done up until del Toro left (del Toro left because there was so much delay and continuous re-writing and no filming had yet started). Everything written and filmed began and ended with PJ. There was no handover or salvaging something that he was involved in creating from the very first day. I would MUCH rather have seen del Toro's version.
Dude, what are you even talking about? PJ was involved since DAY ONE and worked with del Toro as one of the screenwriters for the entire film series from the get-go. It was even PJs push to make it a trilogy. There had been no filming done up until del Toro left (del Toro left because there was so much delay and continuous re-writing and no filming had yet started). Everything written and filmed began and ended with PJ. There was no handover or salvaging something that he was involved in creating from the very first day. I would MUCH rather have seen del Toro's version.
None of the video essays or critiques and similar stuff I've seen ever bash PJ. GdT could've made a wonderful series of movies for all we know, but the studio fucks it up at every turn, and everyone who's worth listening to seems to realize that.
@@jenniferchough You have no clue what your talking about. Do us all favor and go to your homework. You know nothing about the pre-production problems had. And if you don't know who the orginal director was, that tells me everything i need to know about you. Your just full of hot air and no facts.
@@jenniferchough Research before making a fool of yourself on the Internet... Del Toro was supposed to be the director of The Hobbit trilogy, not the screenwriter, although he did add some inputs to the script, like Tauriel's character... He left the project, just few weeks before the filming began and all the pre-production work was already done....