Why Does Everyone Suddenly Want To Pay?

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  • Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025

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  • @OsvaldoGago
    @OsvaldoGago Год назад +1139

    The problem is: your data is not safe just because you are paying. Yes, you may not see the ads, but services can still monetize your data.

    • @Finalizor
      @Finalizor Год назад +17

      ikr

    • @ElclarkKuhu
      @ElclarkKuhu Год назад +15

      Not really, if you don't see the ads then there's no way of using your data to advertise to you. Not in the legal way at least.

    • @lucaskp16
      @lucaskp16 Год назад +116

      @@ElclarkKuhu what are you talking about? even if you don't watch ads on YT ad sense is all over the web. and your costumer profile is still sellable to third parties based on your watch history.

    • @lucaskp16
      @lucaskp16 Год назад +11

      well not one is paying for privacy just for the convenience of not watching the ad.

    • @jordixboy
      @jordixboy Год назад +28

      Your data can still be sold to data broker. You have no clue.

  • @TravisFabel
    @TravisFabel Год назад +738

    I disagree. It's not because customers are concerned about privacy or any of the other points you made.
    It's literally that they're going so far to push ads into everyone's face that more and more people would rather pay than see them.

    • @jayliu645
      @jayliu645 Год назад +29

      the other argument is you just do not use their service if they do not like it. Simply walk away.

    • @jovansingh2134
      @jovansingh2134 Год назад +3

      That’s your opinion. How can you say all customers thinks this way?

    • @Cyril29a
      @Cyril29a Год назад +31

      @@jayliu645 It amazes me how indignant and entitled people are about "free" services. If it is free you are the product but the great thing about free markets is no one is forcing you to participate... well other than government services, I mean just try not paying taxes...

    • @hou950
      @hou950 Год назад +16

      Agreed. After trying Hulu with ads it was so unbearable I didn't even want to watch anything. Even though I locked in a price of $1/month for 12 months.

    • @pranavdeshpande4942
      @pranavdeshpande4942 Год назад +6

      I agree with you!

  • @dremy746
    @dremy746 Год назад +287

    I used to pay for Twitch Turbo so that I wouldn't have to watch ads on Twitch. Then they started having special ads that even twitch turbo users had to watch. When this happened I cancelled my turbo subscription and stopped watching twitch for the most part. I think they may have removed that, but at this point I don't really care and am done with twitch. I pay for RUclips premium and if they pull the same crap I will probably stop watching youtube. I really hate ads.

    • @Micchi-
      @Micchi- Год назад

      Use youtube revanced if that ever happened

    • @furdiburd
      @furdiburd Год назад +48

      they put ads ON PAYING USERS?!

    • @mikairu2944
      @mikairu2944 Год назад

      get mozilla, they're the last haven for adblock users. Some other browsers might do something too, like Brave for example.
      Can't help but find it funny that this whole video essay ABSOLUTELY disregarded the concept of ad blockers

    • @junyaiwase
      @junyaiwase Год назад

      @@furdiburdshit hulu already do it

    • @dremy746
      @dremy746 Год назад +47

      @@furdiburd Yes, it was completely absurd. It was literally the only thing you got with a turbo membership, no other perks, just ad-free viewing and then they made you watch ads.

  • @venkate5hgunda
    @venkate5hgunda Год назад +327

    It's not like people now prefer to pay. The Ads have just become unbearable, and with inflation, the adjusted $ cost of a lot of subscriptions have actually come down. Not to mention, the incrased privacy concerns also make it easy to justify the monthly cost.

    • @carlunaden
      @carlunaden Год назад +63

      It's not as if that service is suddenly going to stop tracking you if you're paying. At that point they're just double dipping because they'll definitely be selling your activities to 3rd parties.

    • @venkate5hgunda
      @venkate5hgunda Год назад +17

      @@carlunaden True. Never said they'll stop if you pay. It's just the public Perception that paid user's won't be tracked as much.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Год назад +36

      Agreed, paying a little to avoid ads is a massive roi

    • @dremy746
      @dremy746 Год назад +5

      @@carlunaden While it's true a company isn't going to stop collecting data on you when you start paying for premium, they can't make money off that data since they aren't serving you ads. So it's not really double dipping, but it's also not really helpful from a privacy perspective either.

    • @rustymustard7798
      @rustymustard7798 Год назад

      @@LogicallyAnswered Spending 5 seconds to download Adblock Origin is a massive ROI over paying. I've got to ride into town go to work for 2 hours to pay a month of RUclips with still no features when i can be home listening to youtube while i farm and do maintenance?
      Growing my own and maintaining all my own infrastructure (power, water, property maintenance) is the best ROI and having to go get money to give to youtube takes time away i can be growing more food or installing more water tank capacity. My time outside of my jobs is most valuable, as a few hours work for myself offsets thousands of dollars of electricity, water, heating bills and doing my own maintenance on everything. The only thing i really pay for anymore is connectivity, crappy intermittent rural 'service' that costs 3x what you all pay in the city, otherwise i take a loss going to work for money instead of making direct progress by staying home and working directly to my own benefit.

  • @MrMajani
    @MrMajani Год назад +84

    On the business side, I can say that online entrepreneurs have discovered that free and freemium only work for websites/apps with millions of users. But when charging users, you can still make the business work even with just a few thousand paying users

    • @drayke8886
      @drayke8886 Год назад +7

      therefore they can focus on making the product worth the money for this group rather than trying to go mainstream with vanilla mod

    • @OsvaldoGago
      @OsvaldoGago Год назад +4

      Many of the large business of today have started creating free competing products of existing paid products. Social media paid products won't work because you need a large user base to benefit from the network effect. On products for businesses, it works thought.

  • @ark2985
    @ark2985 Год назад +171

    It's cute to think that if you pay for Google then Google will stop collecting user data 😅😅

    • @ran160
      @ran160 Год назад +6

      Every website you visit collects your data and tracks the user visiting

    • @highsol222
      @highsol222 Год назад +2

      I love when logical thinking glitches and the arguments make no sense anymore because the person is being too logical lol. That's why logic isn't everything. Common sense ftw.

    • @Piss_Off_Plz
      @Piss_Off_Plz Год назад +1

      @@ran160 Even with things like the TOR browser.

  • @JohnWick4K
    @JohnWick4K Год назад +84

    "The reality is that there is no such a thing as a free service. If you are not paying with cash, you are paying with attention, time, and or privacy." Thats HARD fr!!!

    • @DajuSar
      @DajuSar Год назад

      welcome to the world, you have finally woke up

    • @Stormlywing
      @Stormlywing Год назад

      There is one free service that is free is call having access to their sites without an payment ( some website does it but some don`t )

    • @CatLover-23
      @CatLover-23 Год назад

      That Part.... 👍
      You Are gonna "Pay" one way or another... Good Point here you made.

    • @shrin210
      @shrin210 Год назад

      There is no privacy even if you paid or not. Even Apple is monetising it.

  • @kevriveroc
    @kevriveroc Год назад +181

    Having to pay for services that were once free (or were worth to use for free) is one of the most underrated reasons why people everywhere are becoming ever more financially strangled, especially considering how much of our lives is now online, and how companies are moving more and more essential and/or useful functions of those services behind paywalls, and charging more and more each time.
    It'd be fine if they reserved only the most niche or advanced features for the paying user, but they're expecting to make you start and keep paying increasing (and almost always irrationally increasing) amounts of money for the same functionality that was once free, and making user experience hell for free users.
    And those "small" fees for services that we regularly want or need to use can pile up real quick for the average foe.
    It's become pure greed at this stage.

    • @darkflyper9536
      @darkflyper9536 Год назад +3

      @@RichardMcintyre-qu3kuthere’s now way that’s actually true. What has our world become

    • @noisycarlos
      @noisycarlos Год назад +4

      I guess it depends on what you use. I hate ads, and I basically take the option to remove them in all the services that offer it. That includes RUclips, Reddit, Hulu, Netflix, a paid email service (Hey), and even a paid search engine without ads (Kagi).
      In total, the difference is less than $50/month for all of them compared to the same or equivalent services with ads (~$30 if you don't count the email and search engine). It's not a trivial amount, but for me is worth it to not have ads basically anywhere (and most people probably wouldn't take it as far as me anyway)
      To me ads not only consume time and attention but also increase the risk of me buying stupid things! So I probably still come ahead 🙂

    • @kevriveroc
      @kevriveroc Год назад

      @noisycarlos well, I do agree that everyone is free to weigh the pros and cons, do the numbers, and pay whatever they can afford, or refuse to pay, for whatever services and services' perks they feel they want or need.
      I just think that they're deliberately making those services unbearable to use (or downright unusable) without paying, and taking full advantage of it for nothing but profit. The ads were the first step for luring people into paying, then there were the "exclusive features", and slowly but surely they're taking away more and more functionality from once-free services and making it subscriber-only. I used to rely on Fotor for quick and basic photo editing, but they started to hide so much basic functionality behind a paywall that it simply rendered the app useless for me unless I splashed on a subscription, and that was something like $5,99 per month at that time a couple of years ago, but it's now running at $8,99.
      Sure, the difference right may be something like $50,00 or whatever it is for any given person now, but that number is sure to go up, and probably faster than inflation does because of the sheer profiteering, and by then you'll be basically trapped into keep paying because if you don't, you just won't be able to use those services, whether because of the ads, like many people do right now, or because you'll lose functionality that you just can't afford to give up.

    • @pustota7254
      @pustota7254 Год назад

      Your comment got liked 69 times.

    • @ravitejaknts
      @ravitejaknts Год назад +1

      Not all services though. Some services like RUclips isn't asking you to pay for what's free before. They are providing a ad free experience all together. But I understand your point.

  • @DerCrafter
    @DerCrafter Год назад +55

    A non-negligible amount of people are also going out of their way to remove all ads out of their daily lives: personally, I use adblockers on all my devices, sponsorblock for youtube sponsored blocks in videos, modded ad-free android apps and have even blocked the domain where my smart tv gets its ads from on my router.

    • @rz1_1221
      @rz1_1221 Год назад +10

      I personally don't think sponsors are a bad thing, but there just are not that many sponsors on RUclips, and the ones you do see are the same ones over and over. That can cause people to start using sponsorblock because of "ugh, not another ad for [insert company here]"

    • @jdnaveen321
      @jdnaveen321 Год назад

      I'm on the same boat till few months ago then realized I'm using netflix, prime, sony, hotstar nd paying them but i use like youtube 80%. Met my friend who had 3 others on the fsmily plan then asked me to join for like 400rs (5$) a year, then joined premium boat now never going back for sure.
      I mean yeah ad blockers i use but worst part id you can't turn that off in tv where they put 2-10mins ad in between songs when I'm at bath 😂
      Also i never knew youtube premium had extra benefits like u can stop playing on any device and continue like netflix in different device without going to history and i can see some exclusives which im not a fan off, also seeing this high bitrate premium quality in 1080p which i couldn't tell a difference at the moment but it's matter of time they lock 4k in premium sub only
      Even $20/ year is nothing to me considering I'm using yt like crazy when i pay hotstar, sony just for occasional sports which i barely open lol
      And about that vanced, revanced stuff who knows what they do with our google data u have no clue they steal id and pass, also that app is janky like jitters, lags most ppl don't notice that but I'm a tech geek so i notice them instantly, honestly i thought youtube app was like that till i tried premium
      Saying all this since I'm a youtube mod apk, ad blocker user all my life till few months ago
      If you're making money or using youtube a lot consider getting on premium boat you'll feel better for sure

    • @rejoice37
      @rejoice37 Год назад +3

      Wait u can block sponsorships in videos?

    • @rejoice37
      @rejoice37 Год назад +1

      @@KLondike5 that’s very interesting so do they only work if a video has time codes?

    • @DerCrafter
      @DerCrafter Год назад

      @@rejoice37 No, sponsorblock works without video timecodes, the user selects the start and end timecodes of sponsors themselves when submitting to sponsorblock.

  • @atharvtyagi3435
    @atharvtyagi3435 Год назад +66

    Ads have been more annoying on RUclips recently and there is no way to remove those ads, other than paying for the premium, especially on Mobile.

    • @atharvtyagi3435
      @atharvtyagi3435 Год назад +8

      Yes there are ad blockers too, but for how long are they going to stay legally.

    • @obraad.
      @obraad. Год назад +1

      Revanced works great on mobile. It's even better than the premium.

    • @yankotliarov9239
      @yankotliarov9239 Год назад +24

      There is, and there always will. People just love to rationalize to justify their reckless spending. Just need to spend 15min to save yourself hundreds of dollars over years

    • @ducksongfans
      @ducksongfans Год назад

      Brave browser has built in add block even on mobile

    • @surena9451
      @surena9451 Год назад

      You can have adfree experience with browser plugin on pc or by using "do not show this ad" and then just tick close when you get asked a reason to tick on mobile. It takes 2-3 sec to do this so if u have a 5 sec ad just wait but if you have longer ones then you can do that and save time (it also skips the next ad in my experience if you have 2 ads at once).
      For TV or consoles I don't know a solution but I don't watch YT on those.

  • @AdeleiTeillana
    @AdeleiTeillana Год назад +5

    I pay for YT Premium, but for one reason only and it's probably not a very common one. My favorite type of music is from China. I've tried other music apps and they just don't have a big variety of Chinese music. I used to stream music videos from YT, not worrying about the ads, but then I moved. My daily commute now takes me on a shuttle, a train and a subway. For a good 40 minutes of that commut, I don't have service b/c I'm underground. So I tried multiple music apps where I could download songs - I was even willing to buy them! But no one had the variety YT had. So, I finally saw that YT Premium included YT Music and now I happily listen to and download all the Chinese music I want.

  • @imjody
    @imjody Год назад +32

    I quite literally have ZERO monthly subscriptions. :) It's actually really easy to not give corporations your money. Rent, power, vehicle insurance, internet & phone bills are enough for me, thanks! 😊

    • @aladin_run5404
      @aladin_run5404 Год назад +2

      That's hard to imagine. You don't give money to any corporation? Outside of necessities like internet and such?

    • @imjody
      @imjody Год назад

      @@aladin_run5404 correct! RUclips is free, which I spend a ton of time on. And Unreal Engine is free, which I spend a ton of my time working with. And the games I play are one-time-payment only. I have nothing that requires monthly subscription. Not paying RUclips for their Premium. Not paying X Corp (Twitter) for their Verified Account. Not paying Disney+ or Netflix for movies. Literally nothing, and I'm doing just fine. :)

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy Год назад +3

      I also don’t have any subscription 😂, don’t understand the people complaining about 200 streaming service and spending hundreds of dollars to have Netflix,Disney+,prime video,Apple tv +,peacock and paramount 😂😂
      Most be an us and uk thing and complaining about price increases while is still cheaper than cable,buying dvd or cd 😂
      Is impossible to not give money to corporations but is possible to reduce how much you give to them, personally I only give money to my landlord, my electricity company,water municipalitie company, telecommunications company and my f bank that now charges monthly fees,insurance company is the only subscription types companies I give money to, then of course you need food, fuel, one clothes shopping trip every few years, and replace something that gets broken ect, the rest no company gets directly any money from me indirectly off course I watch ads someone is getting paid, I use some services someone is getting paid.

    • @acutelilmint8035
      @acutelilmint8035 Год назад +1

      I think I only pay for iCloud. Everything else I find other means 😂 but you’re right. I don’t have any subs and I’m fine.

    • @imjody
      @imjody Год назад

      @@acutelilmint8035 you could probably just easily stop paying for iCloud, too! :) Just put a bit of thought into it and unsubscribe. One of my literal least favorite companies on planet earth, is Apple Inc. So I hate to see the only company you paying, being them. LOL. But not bad at all! :)

  • @YannMetalhead
    @YannMetalhead Год назад +9

    I believe that the two major factors for the change is:
    1 - there's so much ads that even people who doesn't care for ads are annoyed by them.
    2 - Big tech are trying to grow they capital at all costs so they monetized in any and every possible way.

  • @cougar2013
    @cougar2013 Год назад +23

    RUclips quietly gave me premium for 3 months a few years ago. I have never looked back. I was a pro with the mute button back in the days of watching commercials on TV. You can get money back, but time never comes back.

    • @loganricherson
      @loganricherson Год назад +4

      I remember having my guitar and piano in the living room for when tv ads would come on. I would get some practice in during the breaks

    • @maxttk97
      @maxttk97 Год назад

      Same I also got a free trial for 3 month I think...used it fully and then canceled it. Still haven't subscribed to premium. They ain't fooling me.😂

    • @cougar2013
      @cougar2013 Год назад

      @@maxttk97 it’s better to pay

    • @Bullminator
      @Bullminator Год назад +2

      I miss days where adds on tv were maximum one minute, but then freaking germany ruined tv in europe and shit turned into 10-20 min adds.

    • @jordixboy
      @jordixboy Год назад

      Germany? Why huh

  • @drummer265
    @drummer265 Год назад +16

    For me, I watch YT on my TV and it's basically my main thing I watch. I'll pick up Hulu or Netflix or HBO for a month or so when there's a particular show I'm interested in, but to be able to skip all the insane YT ads (probably wouldn't pay if I mainly used a laptop with ad block) is more than worth it for basically no difference in price than any other ad-free streaming service.

  • @stuartmacaulay962
    @stuartmacaulay962 Год назад +9

    I have RUclips premium and I have never looked back. I have no patience for ads. It’s worth the cost to be able to immerse yourself in the videos without being bombarded with ads.

  • @gepardtilly
    @gepardtilly Год назад +8

    I've been paying for YT premium for a decade. If they start showing me ads, simply I will shift spending my time to something else. I can't think of something more wasteful of my time than being forced to watch ads. I haven't watched TV since the 2000s, mainly because of ads.

  • @blah2blah65
    @blah2blah65 Год назад +7

    A teacher back in the 1980s taught my class a very profound and unusual paradigm that guides me to this day and was way ahead of his time: resist ads.

    • @mandai2
      @mandai2 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah I have a skip ad reflex now ☺

  • @elvisochieng6267
    @elvisochieng6267 Год назад +22

    Personally I'd never pay for anything if there's a free option

    • @aladin_run5404
      @aladin_run5404 Год назад +5

      I couldn't stand free Spotify, you can't even choose which song to play.

    • @MaryChan-x2z
      @MaryChan-x2z 10 месяцев назад

      I pay for RUclips premium Is worth no ads and offline music for what I win my money to enjoy

    • @kevinwong_2016
      @kevinwong_2016 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@aladin_run5404 fr💀

    • @kevinwong_2016
      @kevinwong_2016 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@MaryChan-x2z 3rd party apps:🗿🗿🗿🗿

  • @llydrsn
    @llydrsn Год назад +4

    If I recall correctly, Cable TV also started off without ads. Just plugs for other shows in between programs. Then suddenly paid ads came into the picture to the point that their ad breaks were practically as long as those on free to air TV. Some international channels even get their signals yanked suddenly just to show local paid ads. I don't know if RUclips would follow this model. I hope they won't, because we all know what is happening to Cable TV nowadays.

  • @varram3488
    @varram3488 Год назад +3

    1:05 "Oh you stiil watch ads on youtube"
    "no"
    *Starts laughing in adblocker

  • @jimster1111
    @jimster1111 Год назад +5

    im a lifelong pirate and proud of it. i pay for media i actually want and know ill like and i support content creators directly. the moment i lose adblock is the moment i stop using youtube tho.

    • @acutelilmint8035
      @acutelilmint8035 Год назад +1

      Key word, I actually want. Agree. Most stuff I don’t want…

  • @santiagosmith3822
    @santiagosmith3822 Год назад +7

    They spam your email. You pay, they advertise to you anyway. I watched a recorded ad and it was interrupted by other ads. With livestreams you only get the sponsors, which may be why it is doing well.

    • @acutelilmint8035
      @acutelilmint8035 Год назад

      Agree I think sponsorships are more beneficial than ads. If I see any ads I usually just close the video

  • @sujiwujiyuji
    @sujiwujiyuji Год назад +48

    i just want to thank you for actually interacting with your fans by regularly responding to comments and hearting them and etc! unfortunately, its rlly rare to see creators with over 100k do that nowadays. i know its something small but i really appreciate it, and i bet alot of other fans do. thank you!

    • @tzarg
      @tzarg Год назад +5

      well yeah a lot of them don't do it because it's just like... hard

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Год назад +12

      Yeah, I try to reply for the first few hours but there’s so many comments haha :)

  • @creedolala6918
    @creedolala6918 Год назад +19

    To be honest it always boggled my mind that RUclips was free, the content out there is incredible and you can find something for any topic, things that will actually help you, and some channels have professional grade production quality. the cost must be staggering, millions of hours of footage, being served up quickly to millions of users, probably some of the best backend engineers in the world making it all happen pretty seamlessly on any device.
    The price for it is pretty reasonable, considering that for every paid user, the fee has to cover 10 more who block or skip every ad. I imagine RUclips could make their nut if every single user had to pay $1 a month. I know that in some places that amount isn't entirely trivial.

    • @mechamicro
      @mechamicro Год назад +4

      Yep. $2 would make it instantly 200 millions users

    • @DJIInLondon
      @DJIInLondon Год назад

      @@mechamicro Indeed, people don't understand how to get big on social media.
      the biggest people to get heard are those with the deepest pockets to bot subs to stay on top

    • @PeteS_1994
      @PeteS_1994 Год назад +1

      I think when RUclips was invented in 2005 it was something new and maybe it wasn’t expected that it would surpass traditional tv.

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 Год назад +139

    It’s a status symbol from the people that can’t balance a budget, know how to use credit, and are only focused on making cringy TikTok videos!! 😂😂😂

  • @reiteration6273
    @reiteration6273 Год назад +6

    I'm not sure about your conclusion at the end. I think if RUclips made premium users watch ads, Premium would die almost overnight.

  • @Mark-vn7et
    @Mark-vn7et Год назад +4

    3:43 no the smarter choice is to register in India using a VPN, then it cost you around 3 dollars a month for the family plan, no way in hell I’m watching ads for 3 bucks.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Год назад +1

      Hahaha, playing the system well :)

    • @joshuad1716
      @joshuad1716 Год назад +1

      I’ve got a family plan in Turkey, it’s $2.26/month

  • @mind-of-neo
    @mind-of-neo Год назад +8

    "There is no such thing as a free service" yes i think this is part of the problem. Most people are not making nearly enough money for it to be reasonable for them to pay for every single tiny little "service" or access to a website just to live at a modern, acceptable standard of life. The fact that our modern standard of life is supposdly not sustainable unless multi-billion dollar companies are allowed to steal your personal information and shove ads in your face nonstop, or charge each user $10+ a month just to look at a website is insane to me

  • @addy12370
    @addy12370 Год назад +1

    That black screen at 5:42 made me think the video had ended.
    Great video though. I just found your channel and have been binging your content. Keep up the good work!

  • @7heMech
    @7heMech Год назад +16

    That's why I use a client mod which does everything premium can and more.

    • @TexasBoyDrew
      @TexasBoyDrew Год назад +3

      What is client mod.

    • @ballroomdru
      @ballroomdru Год назад +1

      How do I use a client mod?

    • @7heMech
      @7heMech Год назад +5

      Re Vanced Extended

    • @Somebodyherefornow
      @Somebodyherefornow Год назад +1

      ublock with firefox

    • @7heMech
      @7heMech Год назад +1

      @@Somebodyherefornow for PC yeah, but I don't see a point when you can just download Brave.

  • @wat146
    @wat146 Год назад +4

    What I got from this is that everyone despises advertisers.

  • @OpEditorial
    @OpEditorial Год назад +7

    1000% agree, you almost forget youtube has ads when you use the premium version, though there are plenty of channels which include paid sponsorships, usually for some VPN that has the unique selling point of *Netflix* (ironically directing viewers off youtube and onto their competitor). While these are somewhat annoying to have to skip over, it beats having to sit through a commercial featuring the Kardashians attempting to convince the peasantry they too get their food delivered by some dirt poor foreign student on a rented scooter rather than their private chefs.

    • @thetimebinder
      @thetimebinder Год назад +5

      I have NEVER gotten an external ad with Premium. In content sponsored ads don't go to RUclips and aren't going to get skipped by an ad blocker anyway. Some of us like actually supporting the content creators we watch.

    • @OpEditorial
      @OpEditorial Год назад +4

      @@thetimebinder by sponsored content I mean like an ad read for a product or service that's included by the content creator themselves.

  • @rambleon3698
    @rambleon3698 Год назад +1

    Its the same with the ads in games from the Playstore. I can't remember the amount of times ive downloaded a game only for it to be so full of ads its unplayable. It gets uninstalled 5 minutes later.

  • @iykej6
    @iykej6 Год назад +6

    Kinda weird paying YT for ad-free watching, just for creators to promote ads/sponsors in their own videos 😂🤪

  • @EpicEntertainmentXD
    @EpicEntertainmentXD Год назад +1

    It’s not even the ads it’s the fact I can’t turn off my phone and listen to videos when I lock my phone shady sh*t RUclips

  • @willg3220
    @willg3220 Год назад +8

    I'd pay for premium if not for the sponsorships. I'm not paying to skip commercials just to skip commercials..

  • @leekichang8359
    @leekichang8359 Год назад +6

    Paying for the service, if not stated otherwise, will not stop them from taking your data and selling it to third party members. I think the point that the video is trying to make is that if you're utilizing the service more than a certain base level, than paying for the service starts to make sense. If you're comparing watching ten hours of ads per month on RUclips or paying four dollars, then paying would make more sense economically.

  • @pfcstuck
    @pfcstuck Год назад +3

    RUclips already has allot of "unskipable" ads. They are called sponsored add reads embedded in videos.

  • @2beJT
    @2beJT Год назад +15

    2:30 - Free services are totally worth it. I have seen people in poor countries build larger networks and bigger businesses through free services like facebook.
    Should they just not connect to the world since they need to spend their extra $1 on food or products to sell?

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Год назад

      Free offerings are great for sure, but it also makes sense to have a paid version with extra perks :)

  • @tenet2406
    @tenet2406 Год назад +3

    Nobody: i have youtube premium
    Everybody: Ad Blocker

  • @nanasasha
    @nanasasha Год назад +2

    As someone who’s had RUclips premium since it came out, I can tell you it’s 100% because I can’t stand ads

  • @hansolowe19
    @hansolowe19 Год назад +19

    I've never had ads on youtube. On pc there are addons to prevent this and on mobile there is revanced.

    • @Terandium
      @Terandium Год назад +3

      Revanced is stinky

    • @andrewthag
      @andrewthag Год назад +6

      Revanced is the BEST don't go lookin for others they don't work 😉

    • @Terandium
      @Terandium Год назад +1

      @@andrewthag im joking haha, my friend is one of the few who created it after vanced fell.

    • @Juanguar
      @Juanguar Год назад +1

      even iphones have a modded client nowadays that can be sideloaded in less than 5 minutes
      theres literally no excuse to pay at all

    • @Terandium
      @Terandium Год назад

      @Juanguar iphones can sideload??? Isnt that unreleased still?

  • @makatron
    @makatron Год назад +1

    Got tired of being bombarded by ads so back in 2018 got premium. It's the superior experience, like back before we were spammed by unskipable ads in every single video.

  • @hectorperez7453
    @hectorperez7453 Год назад +28

    RUclips Premium is totally worth it IMO. I have an office job, so being able to watch all day as well as listen to music with no ads is totally worth the 9 bucks. Netflix on the other hand 💀

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 Год назад +3

      Too bad it's not 9 bucks anymore. This price increase with no increase in value is making me strongly consider canceling.

    • @doublesushi5990
      @doublesushi5990 Год назад

      @@mjc0961same

    • @maxttk97
      @maxttk97 Год назад +8

      RUclips was always free. Netflix was never free. You are the exact type of customer that yt targeted and it seems they have successfully pulled you in. And don't ever think for once it was your own choice at all it all psychology and manipulation 😂

    • @dremy746
      @dremy746 Год назад +3

      The funny thing is companies like netflix pretty much killed piracy because it was just easier and more convenient to get a cheap netflix subscription than to pirate movies and tv shows. Now with prices going up and a hundred different companies running their own streaming service with exclusive content, things are going to shift back towards piracy because it's going to be easier and more convenient, not to mention cheaper, than getting subscriptions to a dozen different servcies or more likely hopping from service to service each month to see the 1 good show each service offers.

    • @Thomas-po4ex
      @Thomas-po4ex Год назад +2

      $9 a month? I just got an email from RUclips saying they jacked up my individual RUclips Premium plan price to around $15 a month. I have been paying $13+ per month for the past few years or so from what I recall.

  • @natejoe9924
    @natejoe9924 Год назад +7

    I'm addicted to RUclips I watch more than one hour a day LOL😂😂😂

    • @natejoe9924
      @natejoe9924 Год назад

      @@weird-guy yes at least4😂😂😂😂

    • @Pushing_Pixels
      @Pushing_Pixels Год назад +2

      Yeah, it's my main content source. Premium is a no brainer for me.

    • @natejoe9924
      @natejoe9924 Год назад +1

      @@Pushing_Pixels yes RUclips is my main source also of entertainment

  • @vinny4765
    @vinny4765 Год назад +4

    A lot of youtube apks that had built in adblockers are getting ruined right now. It's an on going battle between youtube and those devs. I can imagine that might drive some to give up and pay up.

  • @davidferguson3499
    @davidferguson3499 Год назад +1

    I have premium because it comes with youtube music, I can watch videos without ads, play videos in the background and support creators I watch

  • @pennyandrews3292
    @pennyandrews3292 Год назад +5

    All I can say is, I'm not willing to pay for RUclips. It's tempting to watch because it's free, but if I have to pay, then I would probably just do without it. There are always better things I could do with my time than watch RUclips. I also have never used an ad blocker on RUclips because I feel that would be unethical. I also think that if they try putting RUclips videos behind a paywall, then we'll see more piracy of RUclips videos just like there already is of TV shows and movies. I really hope they keep the ad-supported option for people who can't afford premium or don't watch RUclips enough to justify the price. I might pay for e-mail if I don't have a reasonable alternative, because that's a service I rely on, but RUclips is not essential enough to pay every month.

  • @frankogrzic7874
    @frankogrzic7874 Год назад +1

    I use an extension that allows me to ship sponsored segments. Its a lifesaver

  • @GreenPartyHat
    @GreenPartyHat Год назад +18

    I haven't seen any ads online in last 2 years. I can tell paying to not see ads is worth it.

    • @RM-el3gw
      @RM-el3gw Год назад +14

      ever heard of ad blockers

    • @d1p70
      @d1p70 Год назад

      @@RM-el3gw ad blockers on mobile?

    • @GreenPartyHat
      @GreenPartyHat Год назад

      @@RM-el3gw Ad blockers are great. But I watch a lot of youtube on mobile. I also enjoy background audio play.

    • @tomo1168
      @tomo1168 Год назад

      I watch yt since thebeginning and never saw an ad. it's called adblock for yt.

    • @Finalizor
      @Finalizor Год назад

      @@RM-el3gw ublock origin is the best

  • @gjd424
    @gjd424 Год назад +2

    They are still selling your data even if you pay for a premium and yt premium still has some ads.

  • @hrmzk
    @hrmzk Год назад +5

    The only reason I decided to finally pay, is because the ads were driving me insane every time I need to watch on my iPhone to help me get to sleep. That’s being said, I’m glad that I also get other perks like RUclips music with it. But the price raise that Google decided to do just this week is making me think if I’ll keep paying for it.

    • @sampajam6256
      @sampajam6256 Год назад +1

      just put adblock

    • @hrmzk
      @hrmzk Год назад

      @@sampajam6256 that doesn’t work on iPhone. If it did, I would happily do it.

    • @ran160
      @ran160 Год назад

      @@sampajam6256doesn’t work on iOS and if you watch on tv plus I also get YTM which is my Spotify replacement

    • @DrGumskratch
      @DrGumskratch Год назад

      Buy a Android and use yt revanced

    • @kevinwong_2016
      @kevinwong_2016 10 месяцев назад

      Blud just get u you+💀

  • @PolarBear9733
    @PolarBear9733 Год назад +1

    It really gets my goat that I pay a lot of money for a satellite TV service that gives me tons of stations that spend half their time running ads. Speaking of which, it seems satellite and cable TV are losing market share to online streaming. That would be a great video topic, I think.

  • @roar
    @roar Год назад +5

    As the saying goes
    If it's free, you're the product.

    • @domino2560
      @domino2560 Год назад +2

      You are the product regardless in the modern economy

    • @XError40404
      @XError40404 Год назад

      The only way to not be the product nowadays is to quite literally not participate in modern society, which is pretty much impossible

    • @me-myself-i787
      @me-myself-i787 Год назад

      If it's free, you are the product.
      If it costs money, you are the product.
      But with freedom software, you aren't the product.
      They don't have any codes of conduct.
      The Free Software Foundation is a construct
      Which helps you learn about these products
      Eventually, proprietary software, we can destruct,
      And data collection, we can obstruct.

  • @RealLaone
    @RealLaone Год назад +2

    Used to be great when each video had just one ad, and the max was 2. Then they launched Premium and everything went downhill for free watchers. I don't know if it got better for creators, but their work has greatly improved.

  • @ChavezDIY
    @ChavezDIY Год назад +6

    I don't mind paying for youtube premium and no you don't have to be "well off" to afford it. What I do mind is when fellow youtubers insert their own sponsored ads within a video, I'm already paying for youtube premium so I always skip through those ads or just leave the video if its not providing much value at the point the sponsored ad shows up.

    • @maxttk97
      @maxttk97 Год назад

      Isn't majority of the money from yt premium going to yt and not the creators themselves?

    • @jayspeidell
      @jayspeidell Год назад

      ​@@maxttk97 55% goes to creators. It's actually a much better model than other services like Spotify.

    • @ChavezDIY
      @ChavezDIY Год назад +1

      @@maxttk97 For advertisement revenue the split is 55/45 with larger share going to the creator. I don't know what the split for youtube premium money is. You are probably correct that youtube gets the bigger share of yt premium.

    • @ChavezDIY
      @ChavezDIY Год назад

      @@maxttk97 On my channel, over 98% of my earnings come from watch page ads. 1% comes from RUclips Premium. Less than 0% comes from shorts ads.

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy Год назад

      Yt premium pays better, they divided the pool of yt premium money by every creator based on what content yt premium users views

  • @EmeraldEyesEsoteric
    @EmeraldEyesEsoteric Год назад +1

    Premium has nothing to offer me. I can already block ads, download, and find shows and movies for free without it. I suppose you could argue there is some exclusive content, but nothing that interests me enough to pay for at this time.

  • @nebunezz_r
    @nebunezz_r Год назад +8

    Personally, my RUclips subscription is the best bang for buck I'll ever ask for, it's basically a music, podcast, movie, and video hosting service for $2 something, I really can't not justify buying premium when the benefits really outweigh the price I paid, plus the fact that I support my favourite content creator more than those ad watchers give me enough reason to love YT Premium

    • @AskMiko
      @AskMiko Год назад

      Good point. I seldom use other podcast apps because of YT

    • @Pushing_Pixels
      @Pushing_Pixels Год назад

      Agreed. RUclips Music being included means I don't have to sub to a paid music service or listen to one with ads either. It makes it good value.

  • @raymondcaylor6292
    @raymondcaylor6292 Год назад +2

    2:14 that's why more and more Creators are placing :30 - 2:30 long self narrated ads in their videos. A practice I despise and usually I just click off and go to another offering. Why would I want to watch an ad in a video I already pay to see without ads?

  • @VanHunks-tb9zo
    @VanHunks-tb9zo Год назад +4

    Watching youtube without premium is unbearable

  • @aaronj3245
    @aaronj3245 Год назад +1

    oh. its a interesting video. and i also like the new editing pace

  • @vasiliigulevich9202
    @vasiliigulevich9202 Год назад +11

    1:20 If you are paying with cash, you are paying with cash, attention, time and privacy.

    • @nazneenzafar743
      @nazneenzafar743 Год назад

      Exactly what i thought so, thats why i don't have youtube premium.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Год назад +3

      Well, you definitely buy back a lot of time and ideally spending the attention is something you already want to do

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 Год назад

      No, if you're watching ads, you're paying with time and privacy (trackers in the ads). If you're paying with cash, you're paying with cash and less privacy, but you've saved time by not watching ads. And you saved at least some piracy by not having ads with trackers served to you. It's still Google though so there's still some privacy concerns, obviously.
      The attention part makes absolutely no sense - I'm on RUclips because I want to watch all the various channels I like on RUclips. I'm paying with "attention" in both scenarios and it makes no sense to try and advantage that to one side or the other.

    • @vasiliigulevich9202
      @vasiliigulevich9202 Год назад

      @mjc0961 Are you forgetting sponsor reads or suggesting to use Nebula?
      Update: ah, Sponsor Block. You have a point then.

  • @Inosix
    @Inosix Год назад +1

    I don't pay for Premium and I don't watch Ads. I will never watch ads. Ever. Not on my browser, not on my phone. Absolutely fucking not.

  • @mattmmilli8287
    @mattmmilli8287 Год назад +7

    Premium = no ads for yearssss
    Also being able to keep listening while phone is locked is something can’t live without now

    • @ordinaryhuman5645
      @ordinaryhuman5645 Год назад

      That's basic functionality with the brave browser, great for phone battery life.

    • @thisguyfux
      @thisguyfux Год назад

      @@theomnissiah9034 Big companies are also the ones that create the platform on which you can complain. What's the logic?

  • @alexlopez5800
    @alexlopez5800 Год назад +1

    Jeez... Who knew that being harassed by advertising would make people finally pay for RUclips premium...

  • @RobbieRobski
    @RobbieRobski Год назад +8

    I started using YT premium becasue I watch a good amount of content on my tv and there is zero way to adblock on TV. If I only used it on my phone or a browser it'd be fine.

    • @Oreoezi
      @Oreoezi Год назад +1

      If you have android TV there is STube if you really want to bother with all that

    • @tomo1168
      @tomo1168 Год назад +1

      you canblock every content on tv with a hammer...

    • @celso1794
      @celso1794 Год назад +1

      you can block ads on TV configuring a pihole

    • @RobbieRobski
      @RobbieRobski Год назад

      @@celso1794 I tried that, it didnt work for me.

  • @WoollyMittens
    @WoollyMittens Год назад +2

    Managing dozens of recurring credit card payments to subscription services is a nightmare.

  • @TexasBoyDrew
    @TexasBoyDrew Год назад +16

    I learnt so much from youtube that now it feels right to pay.

    • @RM-el3gw
      @RM-el3gw Год назад +5

      some channels are so good that they make using youtube feel worth paying for. Hard part is finding the good stuff, since 90+% of youtube is trash. ONe must know what one is looking for.

    • @TexasBoyDrew
      @TexasBoyDrew Год назад

      I am a business analyst and my career won't be possible without RUclips and the Indian educational videos, so yep, I agree.

    • @95blahblahhaha
      @95blahblahhaha Год назад

      Yeahh no, I feel like I owe wikipedia money not so sure about RUclips even tho I do pay it

    • @doublesushi5990
      @doublesushi5990 Год назад

      @@RM-el3gwlmfao, accurate!

    • @Bullminator
      @Bullminator Год назад

      What idiot pays youtube --- give the money directly to creators you watch instead.

  • @MrDoubtful42069
    @MrDoubtful42069 Год назад +2

    I pay for RUclips premium family plan bruh. I'm fckd. I tried to cancel it once and my kids thought something was wrong with RUclips 😭

  • @daphne8406
    @daphne8406 Год назад +5

    Ever since we found out that we could watch TV content online without the TV comercials, we have been chasing that. Anytime forced comercials were added, we left to other pastures 🤷‍♀️ The reason pirating and downloading TV shows and movies became such a big thing in the first place was not only to watch content early but also uninterrupted. We (sort of) left pirating and downloading behind when we went over to paid streaming services. And we will continue to pay as long as we can avoid those awful comercials that we’ve been running away from since the beginning. So if comercials are forced back in, we go back to pirating and downloading 🤷‍♀️ Absolutely noone wants to pay and still see comercials.

    • @Pushing_Pixels
      @Pushing_Pixels Год назад +1

      Yep. That's the fastest way to make piracy common again.

  • @jayl3840
    @jayl3840 Год назад +1

    hahah i am NOT well off but I have had YT preimium for like the last 5 yeras straight.. I could never go back to watching it with ads

  • @obraad.
    @obraad. Год назад +5

    imagine not using Revanced 👀

    • @DJIInLondon
      @DJIInLondon Год назад

      or newpipe the original

    • @kevinwong_2016
      @kevinwong_2016 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@DJIInLondon Both get rid of ads but work differently💀

  • @jwurnig
    @jwurnig Год назад +1

    Except that all of the things that "premium" does at a cost can be done with a free plug-in. From ad blocking to data protection to even status... you can do all of that for free with a couple of clicks.

  • @seancuthbert4587
    @seancuthbert4587 Год назад +3

    I think people are also ditching RUclips. A lot of content creators are moving over to Rumble. Some even releasing content there first. And no censorship!

    • @racoonracer7878
      @racoonracer7878 Год назад

      For political stuff or an alternative point of view, definitely rumble. But for learning stuff, RUclips wins.

    • @kevinwong_2016
      @kevinwong_2016 10 месяцев назад

      Peer Tube is better because it's not full of people saying I don't have rights💀

  • @amingholizad
    @amingholizad Год назад +1

    If we are not going to get rid of ads anyway then it's probably best not to pay for premium services. Since we will create a new stream of revenue for them without making any changes to the situation in the long run.

  •  Год назад +1

    Does anybody know Adblock? Yeah, no ads and no payments to RUclips.

  • @millabasset1710
    @millabasset1710 Год назад +4

    if I'm going to pay for RUclips Premium, I should have the freedom to exclude in-video sponsors. I just hate getting bombarded with ads, it's gross.

  • @Woolong-ql1jh
    @Woolong-ql1jh Год назад +1

    I get why people pay for Spotify, but RUclips? Why not just use adblockers? They still work perfectly for me.

  • @ChelovegII
    @ChelovegII Год назад +3

    Or you can sail the high seas

  • @linus607
    @linus607 Год назад +1

    I've had premium since 2018... I absolutely love it and say its worth it for me. I consume 40-50 hours of RUclips per WEEK.

  • @jayspeidell
    @jayspeidell Год назад +2

    I'd rather pay for service than see ads. RUclips Premium is worth it. I want to see more and more services move away from ad models.

  • @hopelessdecoy
    @hopelessdecoy Год назад +1

    Good! Paid software (depending on the company) doesn't need to screw you to make money, it is a clear cost for a clear product. I could care less about advertising companies, I do feel bad because I like RUclips but I would rather stop dystopian futures and buy access to videos.

  • @michak8029
    @michak8029 Год назад +1

    why people during debate over YT premium almost always forget about AdBlock..?

  • @GemmaSpinney
    @GemmaSpinney 11 месяцев назад +1

    Kinda weird paying YT for ad-free watching, just for creators to promote ads/sponsors in their own videos

  • @mjc0961
    @mjc0961 Год назад +1

    I see a lot of arguing already in the comments about "just use adblock" VS "paying is worth it to me"
    Nobody seems to be mention the benefit of paying that is the creators you watch getting paid if you use Premium, VS getting nothing if you just block ads. That reason alone is a big part of why I've been subscribed for so long. I'd rather creators get something from me watching so that they can keep making more videos for me to watch.
    Obviously, your mileage may vary on other support systems you want to do instead - buying merch, RUclips memberships, Patreon, etc. But just at the base level of "watching a video, what does the creator get out of it", Premium beats adblock there.

    • @maxttk97
      @maxttk97 Год назад +1

      If you are passionate about the creators then use the join button instead of yt preminum. I saw a video where creators barely get any money from yt premium.

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 Год назад +1

      Too bad for all that Apple stuff that it's not actually giving you any privacy, it's just changing out Google violating your privacy for Apple violating your privacy.

  • @RandomKSandom
    @RandomKSandom Год назад

    It was interesting to see you make the comparison to traditional TV. In recent years, I've been shocked to see TV again and see how many ads were on TV. Yet recently, youtube has been way worse than that with ad breaks usually being a minute or two apart, and sometimes being only seconds apart. I sometimes wonder if someone deployed region-specific changes without testing them.

  • @cjay2
    @cjay2 Год назад +1

    "what happens on your iphone stays on your iphone." What BS. From iOS 16 on, Apple looks at your photos and matches them to their collection of CP. Good luck on that.

  • @hellowill
    @hellowill Год назад +1

    I have premium because I moved out, which means having more than a bedroom with a computer to watch youtube. I watch on my TV a lot now which doesn't have ad blocker.

  • @jessicapink703
    @jessicapink703 Год назад +1

    If they put an ad anywhere near my RUclips Premium, I’m canceling.

  • @andyhu9542
    @andyhu9542 Год назад +1

    Consumers are never annoyed about ads. They are annoyed that the ad revenue is going to wealthy executives and investors at Google. If those people don't take out millions of dollars each year, I am sure that Google can spend way more money on ad moderation, paying its creators, or outright lowering the price for premium viewers.

  • @alexxx4434
    @alexxx4434 Год назад +2

    Underresearched opinion piece.
    - Privacy on iPhone is fake. It scans your photos, looking for CSAM.
    - Internet companies are not the "most profitable" businesses.

  • @icyjaam
    @icyjaam Год назад +1

    Are people unaware of adblockers?

  • @Buggy3412
    @Buggy3412 Год назад +1

    in case of youtube premium,they just stop showing us ads and still track our youtube history and use it for showing ads for people of same interest and not subscribed to premium.if we are watching youtube in website and add adblocker which is absolutely free,it is just like using premium

  • @megachirops
    @megachirops Год назад +2

    There are already non-skippable ads on RUclips Premium. Just look at all the creators doing 30s, 60s or longer sponsor ads in the actual video.

    • @rz1_1221
      @rz1_1221 Год назад

      I don't consider them to be bad, but there are just not that many sponsors on RUclips willing to work with creators, and some are straight up scams. Definitely soured their reputation for a lot of people

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy Год назад

      Manscape,proton,express VPN, nord VPN,Adam & Eva,lord’s mobile,raycon,squarespace,ifixixt,wix,brilliant,nebula,skillshare,raid shadows legends,gfuel, betterhelp,hello fresh,dbrand ect

  • @UnknownFromNow
    @UnknownFromNow Год назад +1

    I started paying three years ago when i replaced spotify with youtube music, and that alone was worth it so getting youtube without ads is a bonus

  • @HR-jt1kt
    @HR-jt1kt Год назад +1

    Thats where Revanced comes in to play

  • @vijaysuresh8411
    @vijaysuresh8411 Год назад +1

    I sometimes download youtube videos to avoid ads.

  • @mr.normalguy69
    @mr.normalguy69 Год назад +2

    And here I am using Vanced alternatives 🍷🗿

  • @realchestro2986
    @realchestro2986 Год назад +1

    Right but I download RUclips videos to watch at a later stage ad free so...