Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Review
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Lisa Gade reviews the latest addition to the ThinkPad P series mobile workstation lineup- the Lenovo ThinkPad P1. It’s identical to the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme we’ve already reviewed, with one difference: the P1 has NVIDIA Quadro dedicated graphics while the X1 Extreme has the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q graphics card. This 15.6” laptop has Intel 8th gen 45 watt 6 core CPUs, making it as powerful as the larger ThinkPad P52, but a lot thinner and lighter. You can get up to an Intel Xeon CPU, and your choice of 2 Quadro graphics cards. It’s available with full HD and UHD 4K touch screens that support the ThinkPad Pen (Wacom AES digitizer). The machine has two M.2 NVMe SSD slots, 2 RAM slots and a fingerprint scanner and optional Windows Hello IR camera. Weight starts at just 3.76 lb. / 1.7 kg.
** Watch our review of the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme here: • Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Ext...
I've been looking for a youtuber that doesn't talk just about gaming rigs. Not everybody wants a laptop for gaming. Thank you so much for this channel. Keep up the good work.
Same here!
I bought this computer to game on :P
I know this is an ancient comment, but Lisa is just the BEST. Tells you everything you want to know and none of the bullshit. Simply divine.
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LOL, Love your shirt :)
@Xander Yyyysup I would assume a decent percentage of people visiting this channel would get it. Anyone who has bought decent headphones should be familiar with resistance.
I have a 10 year old T400 and just purchased a P1 - lovin it ...
I want that shirt!
So, the Borg consists of... superconductor? :D
As long as I love Lenovo laptops, the best thing of this review is the nerdy t-shirt ^_^
ThinkPads rock, but... what mic are you using?? hehe
Love you and the t-shirt...
Love the T Shirt LLAP!
Does this beat Surface Pro 6? I can return it and buy a new Lenovo.
I have done so much research on this particular laptop that it is NOT even funny. (Ive now owned this for two weeks now) And as a whole I'd say you gave the most honest REASONABLE average person review to it. You chose the right profession my friend, I look forward to liking your future videos just to help out :). Now as a consumer who attends collage for computer science whom also bought the base model (outside of upgrading storage) I would recommend this to the max. I can do all school work with ease as well as enjoying the keyboard at the same time lol, I'd also like to mention that people looking for something that will run league of legends, counter strike, fortnite etc. You aren't missing out on anything by buying this laptop at all. It runs everything I need it to amazingly :)
@Neo Anderson I can say that my opinion on it hasn't changed at all. While I do most everything on my desktop now I would absolutely still recommend it 100 percent, never had any kind of issue or hiccup that wasn't fixable in under 5 minutes with a little know how.
Mam reviews lenovo think pad p1 gen2
I have been using the Xeon version of P1 as a replacement for a 2018 i9 Macbook Pro for photo and video editing. I can't believe I can be so happy for the change as I have been a Apple snob for years when it comes to video and photo editing. For my workflow, P1's performance and stability is superior to the MBP.
Does the 1080p version support the 100 % RGB accuracy?
how long least your battery, mine is expirig very quick and it get extremely hot
wrrrr
I bought a ThinkPad T480 based on your review and put away my 2017 MacBook Air, thank you. 😎
Great review. Jesus, these people are magicians. I couldn't imagine this kind of device a couple years ago.
I almost jumped the gun and order the P52 last summer. I am glad that I waited till fall
139 likes, 0 dislikes. Just the way it should be!
koolyo2foots : 310 likes and still 0 dislikes. That’s amazing. Isn’t it?
Record broken at 379 likes, 1 dislike. As Lisa said, u know who u are, macbook fan boy.
Not anymore
Perfectly balanced
Smackdown Lenovo p1 vs hp zbook studio x360 ( dreamcolor panel and pen vs ) please
the dreamcolor xeon is never available, I bought the p1 instead. it is a lot lighter (by half a kilo) than the x360 but it's not 360. but its fine for me though. also the p1 with 4k touch does support Wacom aes pen. though not specified. the x360 only have p1000 for now, the p2000 is delayed. in short, if you can bare the bigger and heavier(p1 is quite heavy already to be used as a tablet so do bare in mind of a 2.5kg tablet) then the x360 is worth waiting for, but p1 is available right now.
ThinkPads are simply the best laptops
Nope.
Cheap build quality....
I switched over from a MacBook Pro that was getting VERY long in the tooth and while I certainly miss MacOS from time to time I couldn't be happier with the hardware of my ThinkPad Yoga 14. Windows 10 is also growing on me more and more as I get better at using it
@@suddenlyvlogs I'm using both, and Mac is still a king.
@@imho4990 Wrong. No pointing stick.
Fantastic review, I am looking forward to your review of the lenovo P52.
Pressed on the video not expecting much of this laptop but damn, almost everything was positive, well done lenovo
You need to show the device a little more 😩😩😩😩😩😩
Esp. Something on Revit of Solidworks
It's a stunning device. No pictures or videos can do it justice. You need to experience it in person to truly see how premium it is.
I disagree
Go look at the channels that spend the whole video doing close ups and flying over it with a drone acting like they're a movie director lol
no background music yet I can't stop listening to this...great content and delivery. Godspeed, Lisa!
Work literally just bought this for me. :D
How's the battery backup?
Now you're expected to do superior work. Get to work!
Wow ! Where do you work ?
Just got mine today. Overall very nice machine, but the fans have a "buzzing / mechanical" noise to them. Is that normal?
Nicholas Wong damn wht kinda job buys you this ??
Lisa why didn't you mention another huge advantage of going with this laptop versus the X1 extreme??? The Xeon processor option. The Xeon processor is a huge step up from the top I7 available in this unit. You focus on the graphics difference but for us security professional the Xeon option is what made me go with the P1 versus the X1 extreme.
One thing of note is that the 8850H can be overclocked to add 400MHz across all six cores, which the 8750H cannot do. This makes it a 0.5GHz difference across all cores when boosted, which might make the price difference a little bit easier to swallow. This even blows away the Xeon E-2176M (minus the extra cache) which drops down to 4.1GHz all cores vs 4.4GHz all cores on the 8850H.
Bought this machine and returned it. Thermal throttled with several cores sitting in the very high 90s. The fans and the dust shield produced a horrible and annoying noise as well. Some users have removed the dust shield to lessen how annoying it can be. Think of a high pitched shrill/blowing sound that at first makes you think (hopefully): "...this is... cool..." but eventually, it breaks you down and you want to turn it off. Even at idle the fans would kick up here and there to sing you the song of its people. The 4k panel also appeared to be stuck on to the chassis instead of encased by it which I thought was odd and some users reported shifting. Almost as if the 4k panel was an afterthought or it was somehow too big for the design, who knows. Finally, the soft touch material had uneven bumps in it. You couldn't see them but you could feel them if you ran your fingers across the body. Besides those things, which unfortunately for me where deal breakers, the laptop was solid and I really wanted to keep it.
Hi Lisa! Greetings! Could you please review the P1 Gen2? Try to determine which one to get. Thank you!
Price is where Apple starts and I am getting sick of Apple. Looking for a different computer and when you said expensive it sounded cheap being from Apple land. Are they easier to fix the Apple who sues people and sends them to prison for trying to fix their products?
Every computer without an Apple logo on it is easier to fix than Apple products.
lenovo is usually very easy to repair because they provide repair parts if you need them and you won't get sued for it.
Have a Lenovo X1 Yoga Gen 3 and had an opportunity to use Lenovo support. Had a MacBook Pro 2012 for 6 years never going back.
In the UK at this price point one gets 3 years return to base which means they will make an appointment to come to your home/ office with all the parts and repair on site.
Understand in the US may be slightly different
No visits to Genius Bars filled with people not fixing but pushing new product
mutsa ushewokunze I’m looking to buy the P1 for Architecture work, but I like the portability and 2-in-1 of the yoga...which one would you choose from if you had a choice? I know the X1 yoga comes with UHD graphics and can’t compare to the P1, but the 2-in1 and portability ticks so many boxes!...
@@kalsing Function over form I think P1 with the heavy duty processors for that CAD lifting. Also this P1 thing certainly seems to have greater memory flexibility
The X1 series P series there seems to be little in the actual dimensions of the device but in pure horsepower that P1 could leave my X1 standing at the lights.😅😅
The one thing I wanted from my X1 was the built in 3/4G capability as I sometimes go places with no WiFi and I don't know if the P series are mobile network capable
Also the P1 seems to have greater screen real estate i.e. thinner bezels
Excellent review as always
If you're thinking about getting a Quadro. The question isn't the performance, it doesn't matter what your workload is, it will not be faster than a GeForce equivalent. The only exception is memory in higher end models for if you have massive models. It's the warranty and the amount of testing the drivers go through. The question is, how much money will you lose if you can't use your laptop for a day or 2. If you're a student or hobbyist don't bother with the extra money, just get the X1 Extreme.
Addendum, someone mentioned 10-bit color, if you must have it, you need the Quadro, but if you're not sure the default assumption is you don't.
I love Thinkpad! I'm a writer and the Thinkpad is King!!!!
Most detailed reviews and to the point talk. Best channel for tech reviews.
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Thanks for all the reviews! I used your channel to decide on a new laptop. Your no-nonsense style is greatly appreciated. I bought a Lenovo X1 Extreme Gen 2 and so far I love it. A couple things to note: The X1EG2 only supports single-sided m.2 drives. I tried a double-sided drive (a drive with chips on both sides) and there is simply not enough room for the chips on the back side. I assume the P1 might have different m.2 slots because you can order it with 2tb drives from the factory. The Intel 7600p series of m.2 that they use are all single-sided except for the 2tb version. Also, the Intel 7600p series are all Self-Encrypting drives. For me, a laptop has to be secure against theft (I travel a bit) so this is important. The drive is ALWAYS encrypted, you only have to enable it using software. I tried the free solutions and they simply didn't work for me (SEDUTIL), then I found WinMagic SecureDoc for $100 which works well and is easy to use. I bought another 1TB Intel 7600p drive for the other bay and I'm looking forward to having massive, secure storage on my daily. My custom built-to-order X1E took about 10 days to get directly from China. I also found a Thinkpad Workstation Dock used on Amazon for about $200. It's working well so far. Thanks again, your reviews were instrumental in my search. It's such a crowded market now with so many buzzwords, even for a tech junkie like me it's hard to wrap your mind around everything.
Can we please get a link to buy all the t-shirts that you wear on your videos? :(
Thanks for the great review! I love ThinkPads [just can't touch anything else, really]
yeah, but this thicker mobile workstations probably did not thermal throttle as much, ..! :-/ also we need AMD Vega for Linux and not this binary only NVidia junk, ..! :-/ unless they finally release register level specs and such.
this lady rocks....
Thinkpads are made of rubbery plastic. How is the quality of them in the long run?
the rubberyness is only a surface treatment on the hard plastic.
As always awesome. I bought the T470 based, in part, on one of your reviews and am very happy with it. Only problem is I noticed the cheap quality of the screen frame. A lot of flex. Is this true of the P1? I also have the Thinkpad 14 from BB. Now that's an excellent build. Thanks again. Your reviews are very helpful
The frame (area around the edges of the display) is quite rigid, particularly because the glass top panel lays on top of the bezel.
that is a fantastic shirt!
Oh, and the video review was great too. But that shirt....
P1, 2nd generation is set to come out in July. However, I took advantage of Lenovo's Father's day special and bought the 1st generation model (Xeon processor, 32GB Dual Channel Memory, 4K display, 512 GB NVMe drive, and 3-year on-site warranty) all for 2,400. Dollars. It took 10 days to build and is just now shipping from China. Can't wait to get it. Thank you, Lisa, for a great review. You were one of the main reasons I chose this laptop.
I find that while the chip temperatures are under control and it doesn't throttle, the user contact surface temperatures on mine are very often uncomfortable, mostly while plugged in, even if I'm not pushing it. Granted there's 6 cores and a Quadro P1000 in there, but even if the dGPU is not active and I'm not doing much, it can run hot to the touch when plugged in, sometimes on battery too. Maybe that's a con of the rubberized surface?
I’d love to see how this compares to the HP ZBook Studio!
Hi Lisa, Can you please review Lenovo's Ryzen based ThinkPads and how they would stack up against the Intel counterparts?
Would be an interesting comparison to watch especially when Ryzen based ones are priced so competitively.
I would love for Lisa to review the ryzen laptops as well and compare against their Intel counterparts
Can you also make a review on Thinkpad X390?
Architects engineers and interior designers are the sector the laptop market long hasn't address, and this ThinkPad P1 is seem the closest answer for us - almost! Hey Lenovo we are convinced by the spec which finally matched our need to do CAD & 3D modeling BUT don't you remember we input dimension A WHOLE LOT? without a numpad just makes us feel like handicap during the workflow! (It's ture) I can't stop wondering for weeks before sleep why you guys don't include a numpad in this P1 with architects and engineers as its targeted customers in mind but included in the lower end P52s which would be bought by personnel like managers of architects and engineers, and these managers are the breed only open and view CAD files but never actually do the CAD work. Now I am done with all rants expressed, it's time to accept the fact that once I bought this P1 and place it on my lap with my legs crossed like how you would sit in coffee shop, I would have to use blue tack to stick a ugly portable numpad along the blank space right side of the keyboard which probably would block the fingerprint scanner... ohh my
Hi Lisa which is your fav. laptop ?
Does this laptop have the classic Lenovo safety keyboard for water splashes??
If you upgrade the warranty.. yes
I spent days, dazzzzzze, on Lenovo's site building custom specs. Finally I figured out that the P1 was a great computer, and it was bigger than the X1. On sale, I bought it. Now I watch this video and see that the P1 is basically a better version of the X1 extreme. FIST PUMP!
using mt p1 for solidworks mostly
works perfect.
and ofc some 4k wow classic ;) medium/high 60 pfs constantly.
got the i7 8850H same preformence as the Xeon but way cheaper in sweden.
16gb single stick and upgraded that to 32gd dual channel 2666mhz.
quadro p2000 max Q
Heat and sound is way better than my Msi gs65 gold that i had to return due to overheating.
My p1 achually runns better and quiter than the msi. and in 4k.
What a difference vs a MacBook, no glue, no everything soldered on board, upgradability, slight better cooling and the legendary reliability and service of Lenovo/IBM. I switched from PC to Macbooks long time ago (mostly for mac app development), now I back to PCs and great rediscover. And what a difference working with intensive 3D apps (Blender mostly). My macbooks now are most time gathering dust. Also two of my macs (in good condition and not bad processors) are now "legacy" and no longer official updates (I have no time to digging with Mojave enabler patchers). So beautiful paper weights.
Excellent review for an excellent piece of hardware! But 2 points of the P1 are disappointing: why not even an option for the color calibration sensor, if this is made for content producers? And no Think Shutter available for the UHD monitor incl. IR cam.
Thank you Lisa for the splendid reviews! Unfortunately the consumer service of Lenovo is NOT reliable at all... I bought a X1 Extreme the 23rd of November, UPS lost it last 13th December and Lenovo has yet to do ANYTHING after my complains. So P1 or X1 can be wonderful as they want but if they cannot deliver them to your home....
great screen but glossy is still a sin in my mind...
in 2-3 years a 1440p matte screeen will be in the T-series. Really you don't need 4K in 13-15" - more like 30"+ for desktops, and 80"+ for your TV
How this compare to the p70 you reviewed two years a go?
Exelente muchas gracias soy arquitecto y esta es el la opción para mí
P1/X1 extreme is designed to compete with XPS and MBP., and it wins. For daily use at work the P5X is much better, no constant fan/coil noise + expansion capabilities. Only draw back of the P5X has no digitize screen/pen. I don't really care. You can have another laptop for that. The weight and size advantage compare to P5X is small in practical terms.
Hiu-Man Cheung What’s the P5X specs dis you get? Seems like extra money to buy another laptop for pen support when you can just have it in one
@@kalsing I have 4K screen, but FHD should be fine for my use. Add whatever memory/disk you need. Can always get upgrade with aftermarket parts later. If you need pen, then this is not it.
QUADRO, XEON, ECC, the main differences compared to X1 extreme
As an XPS 15 owner, I like the look of this one too 👍 The XPS does very much better thermally when undervolted and repasted so hopefully this would benefit in the same way.
Thank you for the review Lisa. What is the difference between this P2 and the new P52?
You should be at 1m subscribers by now. You a have chill channel
would you recommend for a final year engineering student looking to upgrade from a budget laptop
Great video. Definitely my favorite tech channel. Love your hilarious T-shirt .
Lisa you're doing excellent endorsing all those nerdy shirts,
Just one caveat, and the main reason i went with P1 over X1. P1 has a propper 10 bit display that's supported only by Quadro cards. X1 has "phony" 8+2 bit display running off 1050 max-Q. For my color correction and photo editing work i took the P1 and loving it (compared to Aero15x 4k panel i returned to get this one)
@Patrick You're correct. According to Lenovo's site itself, the description even says "15.6” 4K UHD HDR (3840 x 2160) IPS multi-touch, anti-reflective / anti-smudge, 400 nits, 100% Adobe 8+2 color depth with Dolby Vision™" so it's definitely 8+2 as you said.
Please leave a link to your t shirts too :)
It's May 2019, so I'm wondering if the current P1 is still considered a 'buy now' or if the life cycle is nearing an update.
I'm pretty sure its still a "buy now" maybe not in a year from now.
Hey Lisa, its strange nobody in the Windows world talks about a Music recording workstation. Apple is the only one which pushes their Mac as a Music recording workstation. I wish to buy one of them for that purpose..............Any thoughts.......
What about the coil whining everybody is complaining about?
Right now sale on P1, i7-9750H, OLED, 32GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, for $1745 (discount code THINKPADSALE). I've been waiting on Razer Blade 15 or Macbook Pro 15 to go on sale, they are double the price for a similar configuration. Should I pull the trigger on the P1? No gaming, primarily business/grad school projects and some light Photoshop. Thanks for your advice.
you may check tornado f5(w) with 9900K/9700K and quadro p5200/gtx1080
or clevo p870tm with 9900K & gtx1080
Asus E203MAS Celeron N4000, 2 physical cores, 2 logical, 4 GB, 11.6 {$129.99 Best Buy] with our Lenovo Flex 14, 8 gen core i7-8550, 8 GB, 4 physical 8 logical [$800 Office Depot] 802.11ac too, 20 W range because of thermal shutdowns [close to 100 degrees C max - Open System Hardware Monitor. No Asus thermal shutdowns. Both run win 10/1803.
Listening to both your posts on the extreme and the PI, you did indicate that the thermals on the Quadro was quite a bit better, reaching in the 80's centgrade at the most, while you indicated the extreme with the 1050ti would reach to the maximum of a 100, which is not slightly cooler, but quite a bit cooler.
Thank you! Please review the Thinkpad P1 Gen 5 laptop. Does it run hotter than the Thinkpad P1 Gen 4 laptop?
i hate number pads if users want to make those kind of calculations, then get a calculator, LOL. A number pad ususally mean shifting the keyboard to the left whicih is not ergonomically desirable for typing for my part
What is better for video editing and post: X1 Extreme or the P1??
that's exactly my question :)
@@GTGeorgeW a lot of my friends and colleagues told me the p1 is better for video editing. Also, this was the first review that said a geForce is better (@12:32 her words were a little jumbly so I couldn't tell if she agreed or not). I've used both graphics cards before, and it depends on how intense your projects are. if you are doing a little video editing and more gaming i'd say GeForce so you would save a few bucks and have a better gaming exp.
If you're doing stuff that involves big renders and 3d stuff or basically any design software and gaming isn't a priority quadro is the way to go. Now, the quadro isn't bad for gaming, it just wasn't intended for that use. But, unless you're a big gamer you might not see the difference much (:
Thankyou so much for the review Lisa! Been waiting for this 🤓😊 and your shirt...always sooo cool 😁🤩
Hi, what about the throttling? I read It Is quite a big problem for this Lenovo. Thx
Great work as always BEASTA.. thanks for video!
That's a nice shirt! Not buying a Thinkpad soon though.
The proprietary for the ethernet leaves the type c ports availabe for other use if needed.
When you said touchpad is ok, I stop watching this bullshit.
I always wait to see the squirrel make an appearance.
I really like your review but puting Sexy and ThinkPad in one sentence it's oxymoron :-) Great review and a great laptop, don't like Lenovo cheaper laptop line, but the thinkpads are great, just not sexy.
is the lenovo p1 gen 1 with i7 processor supports 64 gb of ram ?
This channel is always such a breath of fresh air, thanks for the great well informed review!
I have the x1 and all I do I watch RUclips. Probably should have got something cheaper.
I’ll happily switch to think pad if they opt in 16 by 10 aspect ratio, and better support for Linux
for those who have still laptop and not moving and this means connected to wall all the time, the best workstation is MSI 16L13 (more known in USA by eurocom tornado f5(w)/f7(w)) which could house 9900K(make sure to check delide+repasting with grizzly+premabios) and quadro p5200 and 64/128gb ram 3000mhz and 4-5 storage options (3 m.2 nvme and 2 sata )
yo may order p870tm with 9900K and it has 5 displays option to choose and swap the GTX card with Quadro ones too.
@MobileTechReview
Could you please recommend me an ideal docking station (4k support) for this laptop to view in LG 24 inch 4K Display (monitor)?
Just bought this! Previously owned a P50 -which was excellent except for the off-center keyboard. Got a decently specced machine - 8750H, 16GB, 256GB, P1000, Full HD. Got it for a steal of a price.
FYI, 32GB SODIMMs are now available for $200. Worth shopping around before choosing your RAM config.
Hi Lisa, Please answer my question- which laptop should i choose- dell latitude 5491 maxed out for 900 USD or lenovo p1 16GB ram 256ssd i7 8750h for 1250 USD?
im never going to video edit, just a normal user. which offer has more bang for the buck?
I'm looking for a laptop that would do these things:
Gfx card for light gaming
Tablet 2-1
1080p
Battery life higher than 8 hours
Greater than 14 inches
Semi upgradable Storage/memory
Touch screen
Backlit keyboard
Weighs less than 5 pounds
Keyboard not detachable
Bluetooth 5.0
Would be nice to have HDMI input/output
"Times have mostly changed, for the better" maybe. Certain sacrifices are definitely not worth it on this P1, the lack of full range I/O, VGA (sort of forgivable), ethernet (unforgivable). The keyboard layout is also too different.
benchmarks indicate that P2200 is similar to 970M in gaming not 1060 but that's not the point of the card anyways.
"I don't know why they bother with this anymore" - The reason is that unlike a USB network adaptor the propitiatory dongle isn't an add on device it's an extension for the NIC built into the laptop. Lenovo use this dongle on laptops that are too thin to have an RJ45 port (IMO it would be better if they used an expanding RJ45 port like some others) so that the laptop can still have network built in. One obvious advantage of this is that you have the laptops MAC printed on the box, so it can be ready in SCCM/etc before it even leaves the stock room.
Does the 1080p version support the 100% RGB colour accuracy?
Thanks!
Hey Lisa! Quick question for you :) If you were mostly using Illustrator & Photoshop and had to keep your laptop on for 14 hours a day or more, would you go with ThinkPad P1 or X1 Extreme? Thanks!
The no nonsense mainstream tech RUclipsr award how's to... Lisa Gade from MobileTechReview...
I used to use a thinkpad before switching to Mac but I wonder about the longevity of this thing if you spec it out and spend $3,500. Does it get sick and crash after a couple of years? Well, that’s my experience with Windows, anyway. Seems like it would be good if your company bought it for you.
I had A Dell Precision 17" about ten years ago. This one is less than a third the weight of my old Dell, and a lot more powerful. Lisa, did you say the screen size of this Lenovo? If so, I missed it. I'm still doing well with my 1st gen X1 Yoga, but if I were looking for a larger, more powerful lappy, the Lenovo with the number kbd would get serious consideration. Thanks for another great video.
If you can afford it, its potentially pretty darn awesome, you can get it with 4Tb storage, 64GB M.2 NVMe ram, Intel Xeon CPU and the 4k super colour accurate monitor but wow does it cost a lot. I think if I won the lottery, this would be one of the first things I would buy.