I had this concert on VCR back in the mid 1980's and it always got stuck in the VCR and then I'd have to get the tape repaired. 'MY Generation' and 'Can't Explain' wound up being so spliced together from the VCR damage that I still see the edits in my mind's eye. But for years, this was my bible and I've watched this show literally hundreds of times since the mid 1980's. "Drowned" from this show is still the best version of it I've ever heard. This song is as raw and as close to their prime as they would get at this period. Entwistle is awe-inspiring as always.
I've been a Who fan since '68, and this song comes about as close to sacred to me as any tune can. I've been in heaven checking out all the different recordings here that weren't around even a few years ago. Until a few minutes ago, this is the first post-Moon version I've heard, and I admit I was prepared to dismiss it if not flat out hate it. But I have to say I really enjoyed it, and thought the band really clicked on it. No question that the 70s versions are iconic, but this one is really good. Kenny kicks some ass here, and I think it's unfair to label him as predictable or just OK. My only complaint, as with almost all the other live Who recordings on RUclips: you can barely hear Entwistle, which is criminal.
@@EditGuy6610 Maybe. Not sure. I think Pete did some crazy awesome lead in the '70s and kept evolving. With Moon Pete had ample opportunity to play lead and he did (more than people realize who did not see him live). When Keith was healthy, he followed both Townshend and Entwistle. However, more Townshend, since the Who were really a jam band live and stretched songs like crazy. I would agree with you that when Moon was not healthy, that made Townshend stay more in the "keep it together" rhythm lane. If you go back on RUclips to watch them play "Join Together/MyGeneration Blues live from 1975, you'll find a healthy Moon and they were improvising like crazy with Pete playing amazing lead guitar. Some of his best. But I would agree that Pete played even better in 1982, but I think that was just him always getting better over the years too.
I liked Kenny, he was a perfect fit in The Small Faces, and again in The Faces, but this song, along with many others belonged to Moon. As did the whole concept of The Who as a band...When Keith died, 'The Who' went with him, as good as Simon Phillips and Zak have both been in his chair.
The only one who died before he got old. Chronologically that is but not spiritually. Daltrey and Townshend still active till they drop and they won't ever get old
I saw them on this tour too I was22 became a father later that yr now I'm a grandfather of three now I got the old man blues love being call Papa by my grandkids thoe
John Archibald Wheeler quantum Physicist expounded on multi universes and holographic universe through the conscientious observer and the pivotal act of observation altering effects. Kay Kyser and Ginny Simms radio legends along with Kay Starr and violinist Joe Vinutti. Cheers Sir Peter and Sir Eric and bandmates.
I never thought that his drum kit was miked well. You could barely hear his cymbals when he hit them. Could also be the quality of the cymbals too. Does anyone remember which brand he used with The Who? I'm not sure.
Kenny was one of the first to use and endorse Sabian around this period but also has a couple of I presume Wuhan traditional china’s up there. He was with Zildjian when using his white Premier kit.
I'm having to concentrate to hear the peter guitar which is a fucking shame as you can tell they (including Pete) where well at it that night...still kicks you in the nuts though...
When I saw The Who in Philadelphia, Pete used Les Paul guitars. I can really hear the difference. But it doesn't matter because The Who died with Keith Moon.
They seem to be better with Zak. Saw them 5 yrs ago in Brooklyn. One of the best shows. It looks like Kenny doesn't know what to do, like he plays too much, when Moonie would sit back on the beat and wait for just the right time for the right fill. I don't get that with this cat at all.
Jones was picked because he was the mate of the band and a great drummer. He joined on the condition he wasn't expected to be moons replacement and this would be a new start. Then The Who carried on playing all the old stuff and he got criticized for not being like moon.
Just can't get behind Kenny. Sorry, man. Don't know what the hell it is. If only he did more drugs, more amphetamines, coke and was an alcoholic he would've been a better fit and would've had more of a chance.
I don't think Kenny did a bad job on this song. It's just that Keith did a way better job. Kenny uses the high hat way way way too much. Keith used it how it should be used, very little.
For every Keith Moon detractor for his idiot-savant style of playing the drums, I give you this as an example for why The Who missed him. What boggles my mind is when Kenny Jones was in the Small Faces, he played like Keith Moon. Have you ever heard the Small Faces song "Green Circles"? It's KJ's interpretation of Keith Moon in 1967, complete with studio echo. When the band morphed into The Faces, KJ played more like John Bonham. I think KJ was under pressure to play on time beats because Keith's playing was not as genius in 1978 as it was in 1970. He was forced to be a time-keeper drummer. That is not the Who's original sound. No fault for Kenny Jones, it was just politics. There are rumours that the Who were going to fire Keith Moon had he not died 9/78.
I think the same thing every time I hear Kenney play with The Who. By the sound of his stuff with the Small Faces, you would think he could sound more like Keith with the Who. Downright perplexing!!!
First explanation I've heard that makes real sense. I had only rediscovered The Who in '76 when a friend brought over Who By Numbers and became enamored with km's drumming. When he died I was like ain't no one gonna replace him. I never gave kj a chance.
Nobody can top Pete's stage presence. His leaping about is second to none and he owns that arm swinging windmill. Nobody else can do that.
Townshend's ability to play lead and rhythm at the same time is so well demonstrated in this live rendition of this track.
Thank you, Mr. Mose Allison, for this tremendous song, along with all your other contributions. Sure do miss you.
The WHO shred harder than 10,000 other bands !!
I had this concert on VCR back in the mid 1980's and it always got stuck in the VCR and then I'd have to get the tape repaired. 'MY Generation' and 'Can't Explain' wound up being so spliced together from the VCR damage that I still see the edits in my mind's eye. But for years, this was my bible and I've watched this show literally hundreds of times since the mid 1980's. "Drowned" from this show is still the best version of it I've ever heard. This song is as raw and as close to their prime as they would get at this period. Entwistle is awe-inspiring as always.
I've been a Who fan since '68, and this song comes about as close to sacred to me as any tune can. I've been in heaven checking out all the different recordings here that weren't around even a few years ago. Until a few minutes ago, this is the first post-Moon version I've heard, and I admit I was prepared to dismiss it if not flat out hate it. But I have to say I really enjoyed it, and thought the band really clicked on it. No question that the 70s versions are iconic, but this one is really good. Kenny kicks some ass here, and I think it's unfair to label him as predictable or just OK. My only complaint, as with almost all the other live Who recordings on RUclips: you can barely hear Entwistle, which is criminal.
Im a young man and a new bass player. And entwistle inspires me to play my song. And moon drives me wild. The Who lives on.
michael david I totally agree... I thought I would be disappointed hearing anyone but KM drumming to this song. But KJ does a good job!!
@@CROUCHIE79
Let's not get carried away
Kenney does well, but there are bits where Pete and Keith were telepathically connected.
Magnifique. "Who" is enjoying this in 2021? Kenny is great, Pete and John excel.
Kenney plays really well in this. Great single stroke roll at 1.00 and tight stops too!
Awesome, sharp and solid dramming, I believe KJ is so much underrated after KM.
The Ox makes it look oh so easy. What a musician!
This song is brutal the way the Who do it. This was one of the highlights of this concert
EVEN at the final tour ( that wasn't ) ,, the WHO ; STILL shredding !!
The ox just stands there and thunders away . . . even though he isn't jumping around I like watching him play.
Pete at his best on this tour, since 1970
Bloody weird opinion.
@@driffter1976 Yeah, So weird...lol
The peak of Entwistle’s tone and playing right here!
Pete's dressed like an office manager who lost a fight with the photo copy machine.
AHAHAHAHAH
Hard to believe this song wasn’t included in their live album from this tour. This is by far the best I’ve seen from ‘82.
I fucking love Townshend 🎸
R.I.P John Entwistle 🎸🎸
Probably the only time they sounded like the old Who on the 1982 tour.
entwhistle masterclass
Great!
I laugh everytime ive.seen.this clip at the horror in Roger's eyes when he blows the verse after the break!
Kenny Jones is ace here, what's the problem rog?
Wow, enjoyed that bass line! John sure was packed into those pants.
THIS IS THE WHO'S 'LAST" GIG ,..? But they're rockin' it like it's their VERY FIRST ,..back at the marquee club !! London ,..
Not the same fireworks of Keith Moon but Kenny does a decent job as good as he could!
Hard to FIll Kieth Moons Shoes.....
@@bobbmars they’d be full of explosives anyway! 💥
Kenny’s more straight-ahead style allowed Pete to be a better guitarist.
@@EditGuy6610 sure thing!
@@EditGuy6610 Maybe. Not sure. I think Pete did some crazy awesome lead in the '70s and kept evolving. With Moon Pete had ample opportunity to play lead and he did (more than people realize who did not see him live). When Keith was healthy, he followed both Townshend and Entwistle. However, more Townshend, since the Who were really a jam band live and stretched songs like crazy. I would agree with you that when Moon was not healthy, that made Townshend stay more in the "keep it together" rhythm lane. If you go back on RUclips to watch them play "Join Together/MyGeneration Blues live from 1975, you'll find a healthy Moon and they were improvising like crazy with Pete playing amazing lead guitar. Some of his best. But I would agree that Pete played even better in 1982, but I think that was just him always getting better over the years too.
I liked Kenny, he was a perfect fit in The Small Faces, and again in The Faces, but this song, along with many others belonged to Moon. As did the whole concept of The Who as a band...When Keith died, 'The Who' went with him, as good as Simon Phillips and Zak have both been in his chair.
The only one who died before he got old. Chronologically that is but not spiritually. Daltrey and Townshend still active till they drop and they won't ever get old
I want a Schlitz water bottle. And if that's not what John's using, I want one anyway.
I always love it when Daltry screws up the lyrics.
Holy Lord I'm old. I was a kid and saw this tour in Biloxi MS not a week before this. It's still the best concert I've ever witnessed, save Radiohead.
I saw them on this tour too I was22 became a father later that yr now I'm a grandfather of three now I got the old man blues love being call Papa by my grandkids thoe
the who rule rock !!
John Archibald Wheeler quantum Physicist expounded on multi universes and holographic universe through the conscientious observer and the pivotal act of observation altering effects. Kay Kyser and Ginny Simms radio legends along with Kay Starr and violinist Joe Vinutti. Cheers Sir Peter and Sir Eric and bandmates.
I never thought that his drum kit was miked well. You could barely hear his cymbals when he hit them. Could also be the quality of the cymbals too. Does anyone remember which brand he used with The Who? I'm not sure.
Aaron Brown I think he used Paiste
Kenny was one of the first to use and endorse Sabian around this period but also has a couple of I presume Wuhan traditional china’s up there. He was with Zildjian when using his white Premier kit.
Pete le kangourou
Nothing nothing nothing sounds like this.
in a good fit !
if only kenney jones had done more fills than he did
I'm having to concentrate to hear the peter guitar which is a fucking shame as you can tell they (including Pete) where well at it that night...still kicks you in the nuts though...
When I saw The Who in Philadelphia, Pete used Les Paul guitars. I can really hear the difference. But it doesn't matter because The Who died with Keith Moon.
G Scurf what a f..... anal statement
Long Live THEWHO
They seem to be better with Zak. Saw them 5 yrs ago in Brooklyn. One of the best shows. It looks like Kenny doesn't know what to do, like he plays too much, when Moonie would sit back on the beat and wait for just the right time for the right fill. I don't get that with this cat at all.
If only the Les Paul would stay in tune for more than 10 minutes! These Schecter guitars kicked ass on that tour, and so did Pete.
good version but not as good as live at leeds version
other band
This is one song they should have just retired after Moon passed.
I'm not ure the Who should have packed it in but Kenney Jones was not the right choice to fill Moon's spot. His drumming is rigid and predictable.
i've read that Jones was chosen for that very reason and that the Who had never had a steady beat and it felt right. Who knows.....
Jones was picked because he was the mate of the band and a great drummer. He joined on the condition he wasn't expected to be moons replacement and this would be a new start. Then The Who carried on playing all the old stuff and he got criticized for not being like moon.
Packed it in ?
Yeah , let’s just f...... pack it in
Like led zeppelin did , an now plant is sing f... lullabies for shits an giggles ..
Doesn't sound rigid and predictable to me. This version rivals Live at Leeds.
Just can't get behind Kenny. Sorry, man. Don't know what the hell it is. If only he did more drugs, more amphetamines, coke and was an alcoholic he would've been a better fit and would've had more of a chance.
@ptownshendlove19 four words...Pete Townshend IS God :)
I don't think Kenny did a bad job on this song. It's just that Keith did a way better job. Kenny uses the high hat way way way too much. Keith used it how it should be used, very little.
For every Keith Moon detractor for his idiot-savant style of playing the drums, I give you this as an example for why The Who missed him. What boggles my mind is when Kenny Jones was in the Small Faces, he played like Keith Moon. Have you ever heard the Small Faces song "Green Circles"? It's KJ's interpretation of Keith Moon in 1967, complete with studio echo. When the band morphed into The Faces, KJ played more like John Bonham.
I think KJ was under pressure to play on time beats because Keith's playing was not as genius in 1978 as it was in 1970. He was forced to be a time-keeper drummer. That is not the Who's original sound. No fault for Kenny Jones, it was just politics. There are rumours that the Who were going to fire Keith Moon had he not died 9/78.
+SisterRayVU68 and Yamaha drums? sheesh
yes pete wanted to go in a different direction and keith wasn't a fit
I think the same thing every time I hear Kenney play with The Who. By the sound of his stuff with the Small Faces, you would think he could sound more like Keith with the Who. Downright perplexing!!!
SisterRayVU68 They were never going to sack Keith. Don't talk twaddle.
First explanation I've heard that makes real sense. I had only rediscovered The Who in '76 when a friend brought over Who By Numbers and became enamored with km's drumming. When he died I was like ain't no one gonna replace him. I never gave kj a chance.