Its a bit smaller than we expected... - Xiaomi 12s Ultra Camera Sensor Teardown!

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  • Опубликовано: 27 июл 2022
  • Xiaomi has a REALLY big camera... lens. But is the Camera itself as large as they say? They only way to find out for sure is to open it up and measure it for ourselves! Today we are taking apart the brand new flagship 12s Ultra from Xiaomi. We are going to measure the worlds largest smartphone sensor - and see how big it really is. Is Xiaomi's "true one inch sensor" really 1 inch? I have my doubts...
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  • @Enzi62
    @Enzi62 Год назад +4453

    I wouldn’t say that sensor is ‘smaller than expected’, I’d say it’s around average size, and probably has a great personality!

    • @uditanandsharma2744
      @uditanandsharma2744 Год назад +58

      Well said✌

    • @Ragna___
      @Ragna___ Год назад +76

      But you can't take a pic with a great personality..

    • @carlosmercado6892
      @carlosmercado6892 Год назад +7

      Very well done my good sir. Take your like lol I got a good chuckle out of this

    • @waterscorpion2338
      @waterscorpion2338 Год назад +2

      😌😌 you're right bro

    • @lazyreposter
      @lazyreposter Год назад +39

      i'd say its bigger than avg, like in certain places of the world

  • @basharb5215
    @basharb5215 Год назад +4016

    "they are being extremely generous with that ruler.. but I mean who hasn't" 💀🤣

    • @pauloceolin
      @pauloceolin Год назад +12

      Hahahah

    • @n00bm4str69
      @n00bm4str69 Год назад +99

      If you know, you know👀

    • @ghausullah6433
      @ghausullah6433 Год назад +2

      Idk, explain plz

    • @TechDove
      @TechDove Год назад +83

      @@ghausullah6433 talking about measuring your uh... 🌭

    • @kellenbasic
      @kellenbasic Год назад +173

      @@TechDove why would you need to mesurare a hot dog? why not just eat it? 🤨

  • @ProjectPhysX
    @ProjectPhysX Год назад +206

    4:27 I think the periscope camera is really exciting tech. With that much zoom, you need optical stabilization, and how they did it here with moving the prism is really cool!

  • @user-cw3nb8rc9e
    @user-cw3nb8rc9e Год назад +8

    Fantastic disassembly. Especially interesting to see camera modules disassembled. Please keep doing it.

  • @morottaja123
    @morottaja123 Год назад +1384

    Small camera sensor naming conventions are fairly insane. Small sensors are named after the dimensions of a hypothetical glass tube that would surround the sensor, as if they were a 1950's Vidicon tube. Typical 1" sensor size is actually 13.1 x 9.8mm.

    • @lorneserpa5888
      @lorneserpa5888 Год назад +82

      Bingo. 100% correct.

    • @LandonSimmons31
      @LandonSimmons31 Год назад +131

      Came here to say this. "1 inch" sensors aren't 1inch.

    • @kentpoon1218
      @kentpoon1218 Год назад +61

      Finally one that knows what the 1" mean in camera world lol.

    • @kenmastersmaster
      @kenmastersmaster Год назад +1

      What sensors in 1950s didn't cameras just use film?

    • @xeon2k8
      @xeon2k8 Год назад +53

      Not sure why people are repeating with different words what Jerry said on the video, maybe watch it until the end next time?

  • @yaminsiddiqui4690
    @yaminsiddiqui4690 Год назад +838

    This is the content I subscribed for, In-depth teardown showing the engineering behind these amazing devices!

  • @Danny.._
    @Danny.._ Год назад +97

    thanks for showing us the real size of the sensor, and thanks especially for explaining how even though it's not really one inch, it's still "one inch" 😂

    • @dtibor5903
      @dtibor5903 Год назад +7

      There is no debunking. Normally this is called a "1 inch type" sensor. This naming convention is very well known by professional video shooters. For the average consumer, yes, it is absolutely misleading.

  • @megabreeeze
    @megabreeeze Год назад

    Love these break down of phones the destruction is why l keep coming back to JerryRigEverything this is awesome, keep up the great work, big thumbs up to that.

  • @johnsalamii
    @johnsalamii Год назад +95

    its weird to see that the big camera isn't the one in the center

    • @supreme4023
      @supreme4023 Год назад +4

      Coz its the ultra wide in the middle...which sees wider than even the main one but once u c it ....u cant unsee it .....its kinda like that.

    • @OXIR
      @OXIR Год назад +4

      Yep. When you look at the back you think the camera in the center must be the largest one.

    • @yuxuanhuang3523
      @yuxuanhuang3523 Год назад

      @@supreme4023 I have problems with my phone, It's ultrawide is in the lower corner of the camera bump, whenever I hold it with one hand, my finger covers it sometimes. Putting it in the center might help. Model Huawei Mate 40 Pro, also has similar-sized round camera bump, but it's three cameras and the Lidar is in four corners of the ring

    • @supreme4023
      @supreme4023 Год назад

      @@yuxuanhuang3523 if the ultra wide is in the middle or lower ...it might pick up ur finger in the picture...its kinda good the way it is...depends on how wide it is...better in upper corners...thats why iPhone cameras are always in the corner ....it also helps in getting close to objects bcoz its in the corner ...so if u take a low ultra wide ground shot...u can get closer to the ground..or take good macro shots

    • @yuxuanhuang3523
      @yuxuanhuang3523 Год назад

      @@supreme4023 That was my whole point. My phone camera 's ultrawide is positioned terribly, I have big hands and I like taking photos with my phone outside the window so I get a nice grip. half the photos I get a annoying finger in frame

  • @UNVIRUSLETALE
    @UNVIRUSLETALE Год назад +277

    The silicone back looks nice, would definitely prefer it over glass because glass is glass and glass breaks

    • @ConnorDunhamFilms
      @ConnorDunhamFilms Год назад +5

      Definitely agree with that!

    • @OmarSS87
      @OmarSS87 Год назад +1

      Leather

    • @anuarbin
      @anuarbin Год назад +3

      @@OmarSS87 Fake leather

    • @pixels_per_inch
      @pixels_per_inch Год назад +4

      I wonder if it will peel off by itself in the long run.

    • @douglasdever6134
      @douglasdever6134 Год назад +4

      It looks cheap! Using REAL leather would be ok. But a fake leather....give me a break.

  • @Lol-kl1rb
    @Lol-kl1rb Год назад +25

    “Its a bit smaller than we expected”
    And i took that personally

  • @attria4945
    @attria4945 Год назад +1

    Went into my recommendations and auto played because I tapped on the vid while scrolling. Was about to scroll but your voice is soothing and has perfect amount of bass which is so relaxing so I finished the vid

  • @arouraios4942
    @arouraios4942 Год назад +565

    Now here's a thought. Switching inch measurements over to rectangle diagonal instead of tube diameter would just confuse everyone.
    What if, hear me out, we switched to centimeters instead. Since no one measures in centimeters right now there'd be no confusion AND you could switch to a better way of measuring like diagonal, area or circumference

    • @arouraios4942
      @arouraios4942 Год назад +50

      Also manufacturers could include both measurements, one in inches and one in centimeters. You aren't forced to get used to a different way of measuring but you do have the more 'accurate' measurement if you want to use it

    • @gaurangagrawal1174
      @gaurangagrawal1174 Год назад +8

      you are a genius

    • @sheikGR
      @sheikGR Год назад +83

      I hope that by "no one measures in centimetres" you mean in the photography world and not generally cause well, the whole world uses cm's except the US :P

    • @MaximaToluene
      @MaximaToluene Год назад +8

      I'd say the easiest is just place a label at the end of the measurement i.e. 1" senor tube radius or 1" sensor diagonal or whatever. But lets be real, they are intentionally using that measurement for marketing, even if we think of a better way to avoid misleading, they for sure wont pick it up.

    • @simioni
      @simioni Год назад +7

      Diagonal is the worst system every invented to measure imaging devices. It's meaningless by itself, and even if accompanied by aspect ratio it makes comparing devices very hard. Area is much better, at least for screens. But area is also trickier for cameras since it's difficult to produce non-round lenses. So a lot of cameras have sensors that are actually larger than the image circle of their lens can cover, but of course this extra area is useless for capturing light. So the only true measure of what a camera system can capture is the image circle, which is a lens measure really, but is the only indicator of the maximum size of the lens that a given sensor can cover.

  • @pictainment
    @pictainment Год назад +333

    The sensor size measurement is from old times. At that time only 2/3 from 1 inch was usable. So diagonally 1inch is 16mm. This counts for all camera sensor measurements

    •  Год назад +18

      he literally said that

    • @pictainment
      @pictainment Год назад +16

      @ I wrote the comment before i watched till the end...

    • @hecker2274
      @hecker2274 Год назад

      Mkbhd video? 🤌

    • @ACESENTAIL
      @ACESENTAIL Год назад +36

      @@pictainment and there is the problem

    • @pictainment
      @pictainment Год назад +12

      @@ACESENTAIL exactly... anyway some people beside me seemed to miss the information.^^

  • @ccflan
    @ccflan Год назад

    one of the best videos outthere for Jerry, congrats

  • @DPac9
    @DPac9 Год назад

    Lots of lessons learned today Prof.Jerry

  • @MegaWardog1
    @MegaWardog1 Год назад +181

    When it comes to cameras a 1 inch sensor is never truly a full inch in any direction of measurement, the one inch is referring to the size of vacuum tube the sensor would have fit into, back when vacuum tubes were used in cameras.

    • @douglasdever6134
      @douglasdever6134 Год назад +6

      BS. He gave a legit and even logical reason for the incorrect measurement to the public. Vacuum tubes? Did you 35mm have them or was it only in large format?

    • @MegaWardog1
      @MegaWardog1 Год назад +28

      @@douglasdever6134 they were basically a CRT , but instead of projecting the image onto the screen these tubes would capture the image. These were the original versions of a sensor and were originally created in the 1920's and were use in commercial TV cameras into the 1990's.

    • @Clavinohou
      @Clavinohou Год назад +22

      @@douglasdever6134 this isn’t BS lmao, MKBHD did a video on how 1 inch sensors aren’t actually 1 inch

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 Год назад +3

      Oh, you watched the video too?

    • @raykyledecastro6083
      @raykyledecastro6083 Год назад +14

      @@douglasdever6134 Tell me you're naive about cameras without telling me you're naive about cameras.

  • @_DreamzGaming
    @_DreamzGaming Год назад +12

    What will it be if you'll post Nothing Phone (1) teardown 😂

  • @fabrizio90roma
    @fabrizio90roma Год назад

    Best mobile phone video ever, thanks for your job!

  • @hackapell23
    @hackapell23 Год назад

    Amazing video, as always!

  • @justuser2681
    @justuser2681 Год назад +68

    The size of matrices in smartphones is measured not by an ordinary inch, but in vidicon inch,and he = 2/3 of classic inch

    • @Sunshrine2
      @Sunshrine2 Год назад +1

      Vidicon inch? Jaysus.... whyyyyyyy.

    • @fluffygalaxy6
      @fluffygalaxy6 Год назад +5

      God, I was so confused how putting the sensor into a circle and measuring its diameter would get you anything other than just the diagonal of the sensor (which is not an inch as shown in the video, but 0.66), makes sense now

    • @SketchTurnerZero
      @SketchTurnerZero Год назад

      No they dont

    • @fabiantapia9131
      @fabiantapia9131 Год назад

      Yes, a famous scammers that worked for Cesar the king.

  • @martinropero7196
    @martinropero7196 Год назад +20

    oh my god, that is a teardown. Very impresive tech overall, is incredible how far we've come

  • @inSaNe_44
    @inSaNe_44 Год назад

    Respect man! For all the work you do! 💪🥃😎

  • @abhishekgiri1201
    @abhishekgiri1201 Год назад

    Awesome analysis!! Grt video!!

  • @ManuelBTC21
    @ManuelBTC21 Год назад +142

    The whole periscope setup makes me wonder if some day we'll get a physically separate module with a battery, earbuds and .... a nice camera with fewer compromises in terms of the lens setup.

    • @dimitar4y
      @dimitar4y Год назад +14

      Project Ara was a thing that had separate modules, but the company realized that will harm their sustainable income schemes (read: scams/ripoffs) and that it is more profitable to force you to buy a WHOLE new phone bi-annually so they scrapped the idea after it was FULLY. FINISHED. and ready to launch.

    • @deadfrominside698
      @deadfrominside698 Год назад +5

      @@dimitar4y those were the days used to be hyped bout it

    • @tridinh1011
      @tridinh1011 Год назад +1

      So just the old galaxy s view

    • @ak19910716
      @ak19910716 Год назад +5

      Based on all these new tech products and my mechanical design experience, the more modular something is, the bulkier it becomes, at least compared to something of equivalent quality and functionality. Might as well get a cheaper phone and a budget camera.

    • @griffin8062
      @griffin8062 Год назад +5

      @@dimitar4y That's part of it, but also a modular phone has a number of major downsides. A modular phone has to be way bulkier than other phones, water resistance is poor, and there is a limited market for them

  • @MichaelPick
    @MichaelPick Год назад +13

    Awe yeah! Bigger is always better 😮‍💨

  • @pqm702
    @pqm702 Год назад

    Excellent video, as always.

  • @GeniusFinds
    @GeniusFinds Год назад

    I was waiting for this teardown

  • @u.e.u.e.
    @u.e.u.e. Год назад +90

    Hello Zach,
    the term "1-inch-class" comes from the time of vacuum glasstube sensors of TV-cameras. A glasstube with an outer diameter of 1" could hold a sensor of exactly THIS size shown in your video. ALL electronic cameras with an "1-inch-sensor" (Panasonic TZ-101 and 202, Sony's RX-100's series etc.) have exactly the same size of sensors! *O.k., I watched while typing. The solution came later.* 😂

    • @justinsijbolts
      @justinsijbolts Год назад +14

      Have you watched the video?

    • @GleaveMakes
      @GleaveMakes Год назад +3

      Someone commented before finishing the video! Haha

    • @MrGonzonator
      @MrGonzonator Год назад +3

      Well Actually, watch the video.

    • @u.e.u.e.
      @u.e.u.e. Год назад +6

      @@justinsijbolts I watched while typing - the solution came later! 😂

    • @ryanrenolds
      @ryanrenolds Год назад

      Yeah, he explained that in a Video. Watch it

  • @techtt6213
    @techtt6213 Год назад +5

    4:40, not actually zoom, it's how the autofocus works

    • @pixels_per_inch
      @pixels_per_inch Год назад

      Yep, with zoom you would need at least 2 moving elements. I wonder how the module inside the Xperia 1 IV actually work.

  • @gprooficial4972
    @gprooficial4972 Год назад

    Wow at last a soft tutorial I can follow! you sir are a genius

  • @MARVIS_TV
    @MARVIS_TV Год назад +5

    I would love to see you check out the internals of the periscope lens of the Sony Xperia 1 IV, looking at how they got it going smoothly from 85-125mm would be awesome!

  • @jesseamuzu6250
    @jesseamuzu6250 Год назад +6

    it costs me pleasure to afford this device despite the scratches. Thank you for your videos I appreciate ☺️

  • @swizzle876
    @swizzle876 Год назад +6

    Hey Jerry, when will we get the next electric Hummer video? I can't wait any longer lol 😅

  • @Splackavellie85
    @Splackavellie85 Год назад +4

    It's impressive to see this in an actually good flagship smartphone. But I've had the same size sensor in my Panasonic CM1 since 2016, and in my DxO One since 2018.

  • @brunoais
    @brunoais Год назад +1

    6:40 Thank you for bringing that knowledge when showing the camera sensor size!

  • @DanielpazTQ
    @DanielpazTQ Год назад +7

    Now that looks fairly easy to repair. Imagine you had to replace the entire frame in order to repair a cracked glass back.

  • @James_____
    @James_____ Год назад +8

    "just like a little lego" never gets old

    • @gerGoPrint3D
      @gerGoPrint3D Год назад

      Together with "I'll see you around" these are iconic JRE phrases uttered in all his videos.

  • @anubratachakraborty1370
    @anubratachakraborty1370 Год назад

    Waited for a long time to see this.

  • @dovafinn3594
    @dovafinn3594 Год назад +2

    4:22 that line from Xiangling (genshin impact) tho -

  • @HorrorsofCody
    @HorrorsofCody Год назад +3

    Thanks Zack also these cameras that are also phones are funny to me.

  • @AnupomAG
    @AnupomAG Год назад +3

    5:17 This is probably the first periscope camera with OIS

    • @pixels_per_inch
      @pixels_per_inch Год назад +1

      Nope, the first was the Asus Zenfone Zoom. Now pretty much all phones with a periscope camera have OIS.

  • @navasmedia
    @navasmedia Год назад

    Great video, you showed us the truth... Keep going on

  • @chartphred1
    @chartphred1 Год назад +1

    Interesting teardown, actually a lot higher quality than I envisaged.

  • @KyleVeatch
    @KyleVeatch Год назад +56

    What would happen if you just plugged the sensor into the motherboard with it exposed like that? Would be cool to test it out and see if you can get it to focus on anything with your own lens.

    • @3450P
      @3450P Год назад +39

      Just blurry image, you can try this with mirrorless camera without lens.

    • @T1mpossible
      @T1mpossible Год назад +1

      Thats quite interesting question

    • @juliovsilva
      @juliovsilva Год назад +7

      Did it once. Fully white image. Kind of disappointed when I saw it.

    • @euro_rfx4499
      @euro_rfx4499 Год назад

      @@juliovsilva too much exposure?

    • @juliovsilva
      @juliovsilva Год назад +4

      ​@@euro_rfx4499 Probably. Since the lenses limit the aperture to a few millimeters and "distort" the image into the correct shape, a full on daylight shot is probably too much for a naked sensor to handle. Even if it could handle that much brightness, probably we would still get a fully white shot, because, as I said, it needs "treated" data/image when it comes to angle, exposure, focus, otherwise it would only be able to see in a binary way: whether there is light or not in each one of its "pixels".
      DISCLAIMER: I'm not a photographer, neither an image/photo technician or stuff like that. I'm a lawyer, which is a profession that is way far from understanding about photography and sensors, so, there's a risk that the comment above is full BS hahahaha

  • @JeremiahFestus2
    @JeremiahFestus2 Год назад +24

    Sweet engineering, detailed explanation by Jerry as always. 😍

    • @raphaeltoast
      @raphaeltoast Год назад

      Fun fact: His name's actually Zack, his channel is named after "jerry rigging" things.

  • @KurtisPape
    @KurtisPape Год назад

    Well at least you cleared up the sensor size thing at the end so I didn't have to correct you haha! Good job telling photographers to put their pitchforks away :)

  • @zeyadsalty7922
    @zeyadsalty7922 Год назад

    excellent job brother.
    you are professional.

  • @robwhitmore3040
    @robwhitmore3040 Год назад +65

    I didn't know about the tube measurement until the MKBHD video but I think it's best to stick with it. Since it's widely used and while I know bigger is better, I don't know how big is how good.
    Being able to compare this to other sensors using the same measurement is probably more important than me knowing the physical dimensions of the sensor.
    I just got my 12s Ultra and the camera is pretty sick.
    Not a huge amount better than the 11 Ultra but better than any other smartphone I've tried.

    • @TLK22
      @TLK22 Год назад

      Actually dxomark rated the 12s ultra lower than the 11 ultra but one thing that I find much better is no more shutter lag. Maybe with software update it will surpass the 11 ultra.

    • @aliavdic5940
      @aliavdic5940 Год назад

      mi 11 ultra beats 12s ultra with ease, its not even competition

    • @robwhitmore3040
      @robwhitmore3040 Год назад

      @Ali Avdic I own both and in my experience, it doesn't. the 12 is quicker, battery lasts far longer, I think the camera is better in its default colour and gamma.

    • @TLK22
      @TLK22 Год назад +1

      @@robwhitmore3040 I have both too and can confirm the 12s seems better. The 11 is a bit better in complete darkness but it's probably a software problem and I wouldn't go back. The only thing that I miss sonetime is the back screen for selfie.

    • @robwhitmore3040
      @robwhitmore3040 Год назад +1

      @@TLK22 yeah, that back screen got a lot of complaints but I loved it. I wish they had kept it in the 12

  • @karasjan14
    @karasjan14 Год назад +39

    The truth is that 1 inch sensors in cameras are actually 0.52x0.35 inches in size. So they weren't lying.

    • @SimEast
      @SimEast Год назад

      Thank you

    • @freemasonry666
      @freemasonry666 Год назад +1

      Yeah like 2MP = 1600 pixel × 1200 pixel

    • @LA-MJ
      @LA-MJ Год назад +1

      We can follow the video ourselves, thank you

    • @ggz21
      @ggz21 Год назад

      @@LA-MJ lol

    • @jimkrom
      @jimkrom Год назад

      The only lie they said was it was the first phone to sport one of these bad boys, while the latest Sharp Aquos preceded them by months

  • @DiegoNomade
    @DiegoNomade Год назад

    Nice work!

  • @ballubumper7378
    @ballubumper7378 Год назад

    Ooh my Jerry 💕.... You are so kind to these mobile phone companies ....with your honest words

  • @uwezimmermann5427
    @uwezimmermann5427 Год назад +3

    Interesting to see the construction - thank you for sacrificing a phone. When it comes to the lenses the necessary aspherical surfaces are quite difficult to manufacture in glass and the material will hardly make any measurable difference - by all means, most prescription glasses nowadays are plastics rather than glass, giving lower weight, lower cost of manufacturing and the possibility to form very advanced progressive lens shapes.
    When it comes to sensors, measuring the outer circle and the diagonal are essentially the same, since any diagonal will be the same length as the diameter of the outer circle.

    • @ckryses3962
      @ckryses3962 Год назад

      Thank you for sharing your info...I was just collecting knowledge about this beauty's camera and build..

  • @niklaskoskinen123
    @niklaskoskinen123 Год назад +11

    My preferred sensor measurement is width x height in mm. So 13.2mm x 8.8mm.

  • @mini4dailytech982
    @mini4dailytech982 Год назад +2

    My dad recommended me to watch your videos before replacing my old phones if I intend to buy flagship phones, Jerry you're awesome 😂❤❤

  • @VIC_TOR_
    @VIC_TOR_ Год назад

    This is i have been waiting for

  • @Altema22
    @Altema22 Год назад +83

    No sensor is the physical size listed. The sensor measurement system goes back to the old days of television cameras, and this would be equivalent to a one inch cathode ray tube. There are charts for converting the size "type" of sensors to the actual physical size. It was originally done for marketing, and it still is 😂

    • @silver7788
      @silver7788 Год назад +23

      Nice that u help all those with hearing impairment and transcribe what Jerry said so they can learn as well.

    • @tronfighter2562
      @tronfighter2562 Год назад +7

      Maybe watch the whole video first...

  • @clmrsmn
    @clmrsmn Год назад +6

    i think the measuring should stay the same cause then its easy to backwards compare to older sensors instead of having to remeasure everything or do conversions

    • @tobityp2
      @tobityp2 Год назад

      Yea that's why the us stays with mph inch feet gallons etc and the rest of the world doesn't... That's not a good idea. I'm very glad that we use the SI system in Europe with meter kmh Zentimeter etc

  • @furqan533
    @furqan533 Год назад

    very well explained about the camera

  • @iqbalbaharchowdhury6397
    @iqbalbaharchowdhury6397 Год назад

    Respect to your good work, thanks a lot

  • @apoorvadr
    @apoorvadr Год назад +3

    as much as i enjoy the soothing voiceover description of the amazing tech pieces i also feel equally bad seeing them stripped and abused :P

  • @giga-chicken
    @giga-chicken Год назад +45

    Measuring the image sensor by the size of a theoretical circle that it can fit in *does* still make sense and will continue to make sense for as long as the lenses are circular. The "1 inch" size of the sensor defines the characteristics of the lens that you will need in order to be able to have a full-frame image without a vignette.

    • @branbroken
      @branbroken Год назад +2

      Except that vignette is only occuring if you have a sensor larger than the projected image circle and you arent performing any cropping. Most manufacturors are intentionally doing the opposite and ensuring they have the sharpest portions of the image circle filling the sensor.

    • @dimitar4y
      @dimitar4y Год назад

      "defines the characteristics" +1 for not stating the "size" of the lens as a lot of hipster wannabe photographers say.

  • @danielgitau348
    @danielgitau348 Год назад

    excellent video - thanks!

  • @StyleArsen
    @StyleArsen Год назад +1

    It's very interesting about size of camera, thanks!

  • @DarwisLimZ
    @DarwisLimZ Год назад +7

    The real size of a 1-inch sensor.
    Every image sensor marketed as 1-inch sensor measures 0.52″ (13.2mm) on the long side, 0.35″ (8.8mm) on the short side, and 0.63″ (15.9mm) diagonally.
    If you watched this video till the end, Zack Explained it at the end

  • @lau9876547
    @lau9876547 Год назад +39

    Did you know that 1-inch sensors are actually way smaller than 1-inch? The diagonal of these sensors only measures 0.63″ and we can blame the old cathode-ray tubes (CRT) technology for this misleading marketing technique.

    • @Harby13
      @Harby13 Год назад +3

      What this guy said!

    • @bl4xe
      @bl4xe Год назад +8

      MKBHD made a great video about it

    • @toga8874
      @toga8874 Год назад +1

      yep that right

  • @szr6145
    @szr6145 Год назад

    Great video. Keep it up.

  • @lumbanikumwenda2864
    @lumbanikumwenda2864 Год назад

    good job Jerry

  • @msk.y
    @msk.y Год назад +9

    A size comparison with other phone sensors would be nice!

    • @MathieuTechMoto
      @MathieuTechMoto Год назад +6

      with the Xperia Pro-I

    • @YgorCortes
      @YgorCortes Год назад +2

      Yes!!! I'd love to see how large it is compared to iPhone 13 Pro, the Pixel 6 and the Galaxy S22 Ultra

    • @msk.y
      @msk.y Год назад +3

      @@MathieuTechMoto I thought the experia also had a 1inch equivalent sensor. Just that they didn't use the whole area

    • @MathieuTechMoto
      @MathieuTechMoto Год назад

      @@msk.y Yeah that's a bummer !

    • @fa14bi-78
      @fa14bi-78 Год назад +1

      @@YgorCortes the iPhone 13pro uses an 1/1.65 Sensor
      So it's around 3times as large as the iPhone, maybe slightly below 3 times i'm not perfect in calculating the diagonals by my head.
      The S22 Ultra uses around 60% of the Xiamois Sensor Size.

  • @residentCJ
    @residentCJ Год назад +13

    1" Sensor were already in Leitz Phone 1, Panasonic CM 1, Sony xperia pro i (used partial).
    All Phones with Zeiss Lenses use Glass Lenses (Sony, Nokia, Vivo)

    • @emrulhasansimon4548
      @emrulhasansimon4548 Год назад +1

      Lg v30 also

    • @justaguyfromreddit
      @justaguyfromreddit Год назад +1

      Also in the aqua phone or smth like that

    • @martinfricz
      @martinfricz Год назад

      @@justaguyfromreddit Sharp Aquos R6 and R7

    • @martinfricz
      @martinfricz Год назад

      @@justaguyfromreddit 🤓

    • @fa14bi-78
      @fa14bi-78 Год назад

      @@emrulhasansimon4548 the LG V30 uses 1/3.1 meaning it's only 10% of the size of what this Xiaomi has

  • @abubakrrossier8241
    @abubakrrossier8241 Год назад

    Brilliant video.

  • @Complex_Addition
    @Complex_Addition Год назад

    I mean who hasn't ? LOL ! Your jokes do not go unnoticed and are very appreciated ! One of the best channels out there ! Thanks Zac !

  • @eriknielsen1231
    @eriknielsen1231 Год назад +4

    I'm surprised that the ultrawide wasn't mentioned at all, even though it's in the center of the phone... But I definitely think that the old way of measuring sensors is dumb and confusing for the average consumer.

  • @ThaexakaMavro
    @ThaexakaMavro Год назад +24

    1 inch sensor has nothing to do with one inch in size its confusing i know ! The name of a 1" digital sensor should more accurately be read as "one inch video camera tube equivalent" sensor. Current digital image sensor size descriptors are the video camera tube equivalency size, not the actual size of the sensor. For example, a 1" sensor has a diagonal measurement of 16 mm.

    • @husamhourani5522
      @husamhourani5522 Год назад

      Correct 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @ByronRC
      @ByronRC Год назад

      Correct, only 2 hours ago I watched DP Review TV and they broke sensor size down😀

    • @muthukumarannm398
      @muthukumarannm398 Год назад

      Yes, finally one person knows his camera stuff.

    • @pixels_per_inch
      @pixels_per_inch Год назад +1

      Zack just revealed how many viewers doesn't finish watching the video.

  • @usa6603
    @usa6603 Год назад

    THANKS BRO GOOD JOB!

  • @Adnankhan-hm5yg
    @Adnankhan-hm5yg Год назад

    I can listen to this Man all day ....

  • @RehctubNomis
    @RehctubNomis Год назад +12

    Having had many smartphone cameras (including the 108MP Samsung many raved about being the best smartphone camera) I have to say this Xiaomi is the best smartphone camera I've had.
    For qualification I've been in to photography for over a decade and have a couple of high end cameras and was never a fan of the image processing style most smartphones go for (over hdr, vibrant colours) so your mileage may vary, but I'm loving the 12S Ultra.
    Thanks for the teardown, from being a small child I always loved taking things apart, but as I was always better at that than putting them back together, it's good to see someone else ruin their phone for me = )

    • @ihlasakasali1024
      @ihlasakasali1024 6 месяцев назад

      @RehtubNomis I'll take your comment as my insight. Then after a year, do you have another smartphone camera suggestion?

    • @RehctubNomis
      @RehctubNomis 6 месяцев назад

      @@ihlasakasali1024 I'm waiting for the 14 Ultra, saw a leak about the camera modules and supposition based on the 14 pro and sounds like it'll be a worthwhile switch.
      (that, and hoping for an international rom, as the china only 12s Ultra rom means AndroidAuto doesn't work, which, I don't own a car, but when I rent, it's damned annoying - about the only thing that doesn't though).

  • @WeItenspinner
    @WeItenspinner Год назад +4

    Sensors should just be measured in mm² as tells the actual surface area in an international unit.

  • @gr0men
    @gr0men Год назад

    7:40
    Reason I keep watching your vids. Genius humor.

  • @stuartcarter7053
    @stuartcarter7053 Год назад

    For some reason I found watching that really therapeutic

  • @TheYamimillenium
    @TheYamimillenium Год назад +14

    Hi Zack, I read this phone was only available in China, while the 12s & 12s pro were available globally. How did you manage to get one? because I'm interested in ordering this one. Thx

    • @MrChriselicious
      @MrChriselicious Год назад +3

      not only china. Many places in Europe too. like Sweden.

    • @mamachawngthu95
      @mamachawngthu95 Год назад +1

      Also available in India

    • @MithunOnTheNet
      @MithunOnTheNet Год назад +1

      When you have 7.4 million subscribers, phone companies will just send him stuff. Even though he destroys them, his videos get a lot of views and are popular. So despite his opinions about a device, in the end it is still marketing.

    • @potipher05
      @potipher05 Год назад +2

      @@MithunOnTheNet he doesn't receive phones from the companies. He mentioned that a few times

    • @zadalmelik011
      @zadalmelik011 Год назад

      ​​@@MithunOnTheNet Not all times he receives phones from companies. He instead buys them.

  • @H1zN
    @H1zN Год назад +3

    "Its an antique relic from the olden days" ..... like inch, gallons, foot, pound and so on xD Americans should finally use SI Units

  • @introverse7167
    @introverse7167 Год назад

    Loving the fact that the wallpaper is a JWST image

  • @sibasishmoharana4587
    @sibasishmoharana4587 Год назад

    Exactly....... nicely explained 👍👍👍

  • @metraforce441
    @metraforce441 Год назад +13

    *Whether it is false advertising or a bad measurement it is still for sure 1 inch of impressiveness*

    • @polyblank73
      @polyblank73 Год назад +4

      Thats just what it is called. 1 inch sensors are almost never one inch. its from the olden days where the camera tube was one inch in diameter, but not the sensor

  • @billr6983
    @billr6983 Год назад +3

    Great video, very fun and informative!
    DPReviewTV did a video recently about sensor sizes. Other channels and sites have pointed this out in the past. It's my opinion sensors should be advertised by area. So a "I inch" sensor would be known by it's area in mm (approx. 10 X 13mm ,being generous again) so it's area would be 130mm. Advertisers and camera companies could call it a 130 sensor. Seems reasobaly sensible and a lot more accurate!

  • @backnangerdronen4963
    @backnangerdronen4963 Год назад

    Nothing but respect for this

  • @yazan2789
    @yazan2789 Год назад

    Bro I love your humor 😭

  • @mumiemonstret
    @mumiemonstret Год назад +3

    They should have updated the sensor size standard the same as they did for displays. A 21" CRT monitor has a much smaller viewing area than a 21" LCD and we quickly got used to it.
    The obvious solution is to abandon imperial units altogether. There will be no doubt what a 15 mm sensor means.

    • @szaszm_
      @szaszm_ Год назад +1

      I'm all for SI, but just like they redefined inches in a stupid way, there's nothing stopping them from redefining millimeters in a stupid way.

  • @theelephantintheroom69
    @theelephantintheroom69 Год назад +94

    The whole thing about 1 inch being with how big of a circle the sensor can fit in is all well and good UNLESS YOU SHOW A PICTURE OF A 1x1 INCH SENSOR THAT ISN'T IN THE PHONE... It's literally not even the same shape.

    • @OXIR
      @OXIR Год назад +5

      Well yeah, most image sensors are 3:4 I guess. But in my opinion it still should be measured either side by side or diagonal from corner to corner. Measuring by the lens or module doesn't make sense to me. In the end, the sensors don't capture the whole circle of light that travels through the lens but it captures a rectangle from it.

    • @Kubamorlo
      @Kubamorlo Год назад +9

      if we would change the convention we might as well drop the silly units and use cm or mm
      honestly area measurement would be the best

    • @AlexandreG
      @AlexandreG Год назад

      The problem isn't even that. You can fit 2 "one inch" sensors in a 1 inch tube stacked on top of each other.

    • @Bobby-lh2sx
      @Bobby-lh2sx Год назад +1

      Still it is not 1 inch

    • @a-xoone
      @a-xoone Год назад

      1" sensor is different from specific 1x1 sensor. You are comparing apple to pear as one is sensor for most standard format 3:4 and the other sensor is specifically 1:1 format.
      they are both 1" but for different picture format and if you use 1x1 sensor for 3:4 format photos you only use part of that sensor that is equal to standard 1" sensor

  • @TuvozAmerica_AsuaVozAmerica
    @TuvozAmerica_AsuaVozAmerica Год назад +2

    Increible trabajo , lo felicito. Dato curioso es que el tamaño de los las fotografias impresas fue y sigue siendo del tamaño de que antiguamente se hacian los encuadres de pinturas y no como deberia ser con respecto al tamaño del sensor o pelicula en sus comienzos. Saludos desde la costa norte del estado de Sao Paulo.Brasil.

  • @JHuffPhoto
    @JHuffPhoto Год назад +2

    The 1 inch nomenclature goes back to early television cameras. You will not find a 1 inch measurement on it. A one inch sensor measures 9 by 12mm.

  • @iau
    @iau Год назад +8

    Honestly everything he took apart in this phone seemed very high quality and well assembled. I was surprised.

    • @i_am_Amit_music
      @i_am_Amit_music Год назад

      Lol every phone are made like this 😂

    • @sconcepx
      @sconcepx 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@i_am_Amit_musicthink surprised because its a chinese brand!

  • @xaviernic3675
    @xaviernic3675 Год назад +36

    Hey Jerry. I know the Mi 11 ultra is now a year old, but by any chance could u do a tear Down for it. I feel like that was the best of Xiaomi yet. This 12s ultra is like a stepdown from it's predecessor.

    • @galerinha
      @galerinha Год назад +8

      Every 2022 phone is being worse than it's predecessor because they're trying to keep last year's prices while also upgrading some components when all the components got more expensive to buy/manufacture.

    • @aulilia8183
      @aulilia8183 Год назад +1

      I think so

    • @ray4493
      @ray4493 Год назад +3

      12s ultra is a complete crap when compared to 11U. Even detailed camera reviewers use 11U as benchmarks when comparing flagship mobile cameras. Things are just going downhill.

    • @Mitorafer
      @Mitorafer Год назад +3

      @@ray4493 completely not true I have Mi 11 Ultra and upgraded to Xiaomi 12S Ultra, the phone is lighter, the leather like back is easier to grip and no fingerprints on the back, build quality is better, the camera is better and shutter speed is the fastest thing ever, you can just take out the phone enter camera and shoot and it's good, no effort needed, the proximity sensor is fixed, the snapdragon 8 + gen 1 is better in EVERYTHING compared to 888, it is opening up apps so fast and everything is much smoother while not consuming more battery and the phone does heat at all, the screen is ltpo which also saves battery, the phone has a few shortcomings compared to mi 11 ultra, the only major one is no rear display, which is a shame i'll agree on that, other than that, having 4860 battery compared to 5000 is not bad since the phone consumes less battery to begin with, and lasts to me personally a day and a half, you can still charge it for like 10-15 minutes and be good for another day, without even needing to charge overnight! (I was using the charger all day and night with mi 11 ultra), now I only need 10 maybe 20, at max 30 minutes charging and the phone is good for everything I throw at it, which is a huge advantage, the earpiece is louder too,
      sorry for long rant, but what you just said is simply looking and specs and saying "they barely did anything, the downgraded stuff" no, the only downgrade is no rear display sure, everything else is better/same which is totally worth the asking price, the phone is great

    • @xaviernic3675
      @xaviernic3675 Год назад

      This whole one inch sensor thing for 12s ultra was already in the 11 ultra coupled with it's unique design. Plus damn that camera bump for the 11U was fine AF. The ability to take selfies with that camera was was mwaaahh. It's like that phone was too ahead of it's time for Xiaomi. It feels like this was supposed to come first then the other one.

  • @loniealinday1990
    @loniealinday1990 Год назад

    im fans of yours long time ago!!!

  • @RomanOstolosh
    @RomanOstolosh Год назад

    😀😀😀When I just started following the channel my interest was driven by the odd feeling of sympathy to the pieces of electronics that were brutality destroyed for no apparent reasons. But now I came for the unique humor that makes me laugh out loud and crave for more videos.
    Keep up the great work 👍

  • @kasper_429
    @kasper_429 Год назад +26

    "They are being extremely generous with that ruler.. but I mean, who hasn't?"
    "Like the floppy disk icon, fax machines, or members of Congress."
    Zack's on fire with the one-liners today. Well said. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @LiveTUNA
      @LiveTUNA Год назад +1

      Literally the best comment 😂🤣

  • @n.j.s.5371
    @n.j.s.5371 Год назад +63

    Fun Fact about 1inch Sensor's
    It's a name from very early days before digital Sensors even where a thing. The first Cameras with sensors worked similar to a tube TV and the "1 Inch" refers to the diameter of the tube, in other words the sensor has to be smaller than 1 inch
    Edit:
    He explains it later in the video, commented earlier

  • @ScottJWaldron
    @ScottJWaldron Год назад +2

    Cool to see such a large sensor in a phone and the actual sensor in the video! I wonder if the lens totally covers it. The recent Sony camera phone with the same sized sensor managed only a portion with the optics they used. 8:22 Yeah, I do think camera sensors should be measured differently. I'd say crop factor is fine (where the commonly known36x24mm "full-frame" sensor is 1x) though it doesn't account for aspect ratio. Or simply stating dimensions like 36x24mm but it's not the easiest thing to vocalize, especially when the dimensions aren't whole numbers which is often the case.

    • @a-xoone
      @a-xoone Год назад +1

      This is not that sensor in Xperia I-Pro (1" and not all the sensor size was used.) This is totally new sensor from Sony and debuts in this phone. It has yet to come to Sony's next flagship phone and they will then make full use of it. This is first time we see this sensor ☺

    • @ScottJWaldron
      @ScottJWaldron Год назад +2

      @@a-xoone My point was that they are approximately the same size. They are both called "one inch" sensors which is what Zack went over in the video.

  • @jamesmorrison6589
    @jamesmorrison6589 Год назад

    Just got mine but definitely i know already it's not what they described on the phone there's always something to hide us... Thanks amazing video