Stilicho: The Half-Barbarian Savior of Rome

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2024

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  • @HistoryDose
    @HistoryDose  3 года назад +486

    Lots of requests for the last track: ‘Absolution’ by Scott Buckley. Go show Scott some love!

    • @hawtcookie9479
      @hawtcookie9479 3 года назад +7

      Good video

    • @JB-ue6lf
      @JB-ue6lf 3 года назад +10

      Your videos are...I'm almost speechless. They're INCREDIBLE!!! My god! You're somethin special when it comes to storytelling! I feel like I'm watching a multimillion dollar Hollywood movie!

    • @IamSome1
      @IamSome1 3 года назад +4

      What's the track from the alaric sieging Milan

    • @Waterkiller_AK
      @Waterkiller_AK 2 года назад +6

      Do you have the rest of the tracklist? The channel links do not really help in finding the soundtracks of this video

    • @bryanlewis7293
      @bryanlewis7293 2 года назад

      W
      The

  • @70M80
    @70M80 4 года назад +3416

    Man you got me pissed about someone who died 1600 years ago. That's good story telling.

    • @Sirxchrish
      @Sirxchrish 3 года назад +56

      I feel the same exact way. 😭

    • @musicAle77
      @musicAle77 3 года назад +11

      Same

    • @lZEOBA
      @lZEOBA 2 года назад +6

      Ditto

    • @jackysaintfleur4987
      @jackysaintfleur4987 2 года назад +2

      This is history for historian’s if you are even slight of intelligent you would’ve notice how much humanity have lost with the fallen of the western Roman Empire who knows we probably would’ve been 100 times advance in the future if we didn’t stuck in the dark ages because of these barbarians and traitors…

    • @liberty8453
      @liberty8453 2 года назад +44

      @@jackysaintfleur4987 The empire’s corruption and greed saw to that. The sacking was the inevitable response to the regime’s inhumanity and indulgence.

  • @andreymudik2905
    @andreymudik2905 4 года назад +2266

    The hero Rome needed but did not deserve

    • @claudiamarianidamato9499
      @claudiamarianidamato9499 4 года назад +10

      Did not deserve .... please go take a walk somewhere

    • @hebanker3372
      @hebanker3372 4 года назад +212

      @@claudiamarianidamato9499 They didn't deserve him.He was too competent and insightfull for the detached,self indulging,imperial court.

    • @Hborn
      @Hborn 3 года назад +2

      Did he have slave's

    • @NeetoryuKunRHMN
      @NeetoryuKunRHMN 3 года назад +92

      @@Hborn in a world were slaves were a common thing? Please, don't use modern morals for someone who lived 1600 years ago.

    • @thomaszaccone3960
      @thomaszaccone3960 3 года назад +3

      WELL SAID

  • @T0pMan15
    @T0pMan15 4 года назад +3042

    Crazy how Stillicho ordered his loyal troops to stand down, whilst he accepts his fate. A true leader from the very beginning. Unwilling to let his troops die for him.

    • @richardscanlan3167
      @richardscanlan3167 4 года назад +379

      Funny thing is,a lot of those troops were barbarians ( Goths,Alans etc) and had been defeated by Stilicho.But to the "barbarian" minds it only increased their respect for Stilicho.They didn't hate him for it.What they did despise however,was Stilicho being murdered by his own,merely for being successful.
      That is why the reference to the Goths,Vandals being barbarians is so amusing.They were anything but,in many ways they had the virtues of the old Romans.And actually adopted Roman traditions.
      At the end of the day,they essentially became Roman.

    • @mustafaamin9516
      @mustafaamin9516 4 года назад +22

      Richard Scanlan Facts

    • @richardscanlan3167
      @richardscanlan3167 4 года назад +70

      @@mustafaamin9516 it is.People always refer to the people that conquered Rome as "barbarians".
      Couldn't be further from the truth.

    • @ZephLodwick
      @ZephLodwick 4 года назад +82

      It must have taken a lot of strength for Stilicho to not just kill Honorius and take the emperorship for himself. I suppose he calculated that the risk of civil war was too great.

    • @richardscanlan3167
      @richardscanlan3167 4 года назад +56

      @@ZephLodwick well,certainly the spectre of civil war at a time when the empire was in extreme danger would have crossed his mind.
      I also think it reflects the character of the man i.e he was honourable.It was one of the reasons Theodosius made him Honorious' guardian.

  • @Armorius2199
    @Armorius2199 4 года назад +2453

    Stilicho dies: MANLY TEARS

    • @phantomkelvink4225
      @phantomkelvink4225 4 года назад +90

      Stilicho Death remind me of the death of Aurelian... I cry every night.

    • @powerist209
      @powerist209 4 года назад +38

      Not sure how Dovahhatty will cover that story, even as a tongue in cheek satire
      Consider that Theodosius maybe negatively portrayed.

    • @FubbleSmurf
      @FubbleSmurf 4 года назад +49

      @@powerist209 he mentioned being saddened about Aetius, Stillicho and Majorian being killed on twitter. So you can assume they will be portrayed as chads.

    • @richardscanlan3167
      @richardscanlan3167 4 года назад +25

      @@FubbleSmurf if anything,they were both mega alpha males.

    • @year111
      @year111 4 года назад +10

      Visigoths: It’s party time!

  • @chai8941
    @chai8941 4 года назад +2231

    Stilicho, Majorian, and Aurelian. The saviors of Rome that the declining empire needed.

    • @mickel1470
      @mickel1470 4 года назад +226

      @@ampnor5502 My man thank you
      Flavius Aetius defense against the huns cannot be overlooked.

    • @colmmooney1474
      @colmmooney1474 3 года назад +74

      I think for those utterly great men like Stilicho and Flavius Aetius to be allowed to thrive, it took the systematic restructuring of the empire under Diocletian. As someone who spent his undergraduate focussing on Diocletian, I could be a little biased.
      With regards to Diocletian, people focus so much on his religious policies, but for now, I will not expand on them here, if someone replies to me I will.
      He is not the big-name superpower of the 'celebrity' like leaders of the late empire but he was a man who believed in his system so much he stepped down from power. You're talking of a period of the 3rd-century, where you have so many pretenders, contenders, usurpers, etc., going for the ultimate power, Diocletian has it, and gives it away.
      Then again, I am also a massive fan of Aurelian, but I unable to say as much about him as I could with Diocletian. However, you could say the likes of Diocletian benefitted from the order he, Aurelian, brought to the empire.
      The late empire, in general, is given such a bad reputation but it often created colossal figures. People so important for the empire that it could be argued, were more vital than Trajan, Marcus Aurelius, Augustus, etc. It is all well and good to rule when the sun is on your back, but when the empire has been shattered to pieces, to stand up like Aurelian and Diocletian, it took a presence and ability that the suggested high-empire never had to endure.
      I have not written this to try to insult or mock anyone's views. I am just a mature Irish guy who spent a long time studying the Roman Empire. It has become a large part of who I am andI love to discuss it further with people, whether it is here, discord, and/or my newly made Instagram page instagram.com/rome_is_the_light/?hl=en - rome_is_the_light is the username if the link doesn't work.
      If anyone wants to reply, just let me know :)

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 3 года назад +59

      @@colmmooney1474 Diocletion tried to establish a standard and ordered succession, but without him, it turned into the same fuckery that plagued the late Republic. A few big names trying to dominate one another instead of doing their job to secure more hostile borders. I think the West could have been on top until the Muslim expansions, maybe becoming more Germanic as they assimilated them. But then Islam would press from the south/east and the Vikings from the north/west. Would have been interesting to see how Europe looked today if that happened.

    • @razorsharpview9090
      @razorsharpview9090 3 года назад +9

      @@mickel1470 Aetius Flavius is just a warlord. Majorian should be on the top. After he was betrayed by Recimer, west rome crumble although it did end really because Theodoric preserve its culture.

    • @robertsettle2590
      @robertsettle2590 2 года назад +4

      @@colmmooney1474 that's telling them mature IRISH GUY!!!

  • @creamycereal
    @creamycereal 4 года назад +1823

    Stilichos story is honestly sad, refusing to usurp the empire even when his own life was at risk

    • @gerardjagroo
      @gerardjagroo 2 года назад +51

      When you play Game of Thrones you win or you die.

    • @RedLancerMoto
      @RedLancerMoto 2 года назад +1

      @@gerardjagroo No shit

    • @ipiepiepiei9550
      @ipiepiepiei9550 2 года назад +10

      Based yt profile pic, very chad

    • @Drewski-hw1yi
      @Drewski-hw1yi 2 года назад

      Honestly if he did I wouldn't have blamed him especially when he realized what was going on, and let's be honest he'd probably would open the door for more romanized German generals to become emperor which let's be honest is better than the decedent dumpster fire that was the Roman aristocracy at the time. Yea they're Germans but who cares if they're citizens and romanized.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 2 года назад

      @@gerardjagroo
      Oof

  • @thomaszaccone3960
    @thomaszaccone3960 3 года назад +378

    The bravest man in the world can't save a government riddled with avarice, cowardice and treachery.
    Good man Stilicho.

    • @LordOfLight
      @LordOfLight 2 года назад +9

      Unfortunately, there's never been any other kind of government.

    • @thomaszaccone3960
      @thomaszaccone3960 2 года назад +25

      @@LordOfLight Some are a lot worse than others

  • @jebediah4780
    @jebediah4780 2 года назад +235

    It's heartbreaking that Stilicho's final order was for his men to stand down, in an attempt to spare their lives. Their love for him was so great that even when they were tortured they still professed the truth that was his innocence.

  • @kishanchali8752
    @kishanchali8752 4 года назад +1624

    I was always looking for a good documentary about Stilicho, Rome's last true general.
    Rome would've survived the 410 A.D. attack by Aleric if Stilicho was alive. He had the charisma and the military prowess to hold the empire together, but unfortunately, traitors won as they always do and the rest is history.

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  4 года назад +226

      I hope this video did him justice!

    • @connorgolden4
      @connorgolden4 4 года назад +108

      Nah, that would be Majorian. He nearly re established the Western empires position over the Germans until he was betrayed.

    • @richardscanlan3167
      @richardscanlan3167 4 года назад +75

      he wasn't the last true/great general.That title would go to Aetius ( who defeated Atilla).

    • @richardscanlan3167
      @richardscanlan3167 4 года назад +37

      @The Nova renaissance hey,I agree with you,buddy.When I refer to Aetius,I am specifically referencing the western empire.
      Personally,and this is a big call,I regard Belisarius as the greatest general of all time.The man was unbelievable,but his path followed that of his 2 great predecessors Stlicho and Aetius - undermined and betrayed by a corrupt system.
      Even so,what a cadre of generals - possibly the greatest trio of all time?

    • @deskouk1773
      @deskouk1773 4 года назад +15

      @The Nova renaissance y'all do realize that the empire survived for another 1000 years right?

  • @__prometheus__
    @__prometheus__ 4 года назад +663

    Everyone against stilicho: “We did it we saved the empire!”
    Stilicho: .___.

  • @markb8426
    @markb8426 4 года назад +431

    This is how to tell a story

  • @tksilver3766
    @tksilver3766 4 года назад +321

    The ending is a masterpiece, I legit cried.

    • @firstimpression7529
      @firstimpression7529 2 года назад +6

      I'm with you. I was emotionally torn at the end. A man trying to save the kingdom was killed due to greed.

    • @time_for_fast
      @time_for_fast 2 года назад +1

      the violins don't hurt , very moving music

    • @Daniel-qf9ne
      @Daniel-qf9ne 2 года назад +2

      you know your life story's sad when people still crying about it 1600 years later.

  • @camelusdromedarius3789
    @camelusdromedarius3789 2 года назад +85

    I love how by the end of it, I was on Alaric's side, hoping him to crush those who betrayed Stilicho. The stories from Antiquity are some of the best I've ever heard.

  • @ElBandito
    @ElBandito 4 года назад +573

    Rome had a chance with Stilicho but botched it. Then they botched again with Flavius Aetius.

    • @richardscanlan3167
      @richardscanlan3167 4 года назад +112

      Exactly.Rome's elite used their great men to maintain power for themselves.And once they no longer had a use for them,they had them killed.

    • @randomnepali7772
      @randomnepali7772 4 года назад +107

      You forgot Majorian.

    • @unkownlancer233
      @unkownlancer233 4 года назад +2

      T

    • @linuxoperatingsystem6402
      @linuxoperatingsystem6402 4 года назад +56

      Also Aurelian

    • @richardscanlan3167
      @richardscanlan3167 4 года назад +36

      @@linuxoperatingsystem6402 yes.Rome was very good at destroying their best leaders.

  • @HistoryTime
    @HistoryTime 4 года назад +564

    Nice video man! Really felt like I was with Theodosius and his men at the start. Keep smashing it!

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  4 года назад +38

      Thank you, sir! Trying to grow with every video and learn from channels like yours!

  • @REVAN2338
    @REVAN2338 4 года назад +204

    The similarities between Stilicho and Flavius Aetius are uncanny.

  • @marcodado8881
    @marcodado8881 4 года назад +134

    Alaric: "imma switch sides again and again"

    • @unkownlancer233
      @unkownlancer233 4 года назад +22

      The Nova renaissance no wonder why Italy switched sides Alaric’s genes goth to them

    • @osman7240
      @osman7240 4 года назад +5

      @@unkownlancer233 good one.

    • @worsethanjoerogan8061
      @worsethanjoerogan8061 4 года назад +5

      At this point you really shouldn't consider him on anybody's side but his own.

    • @user-cf5dt7qq5r
      @user-cf5dt7qq5r 4 года назад +3

      The cliche of the gothic anti hero edgelord suddenly makes sense.

    • @martinfarrell237
      @martinfarrell237 2 года назад +2

      He was extremely loyal until betrayed. He had such a large army because people flocked to him due to his loyalty and generosity.

  • @quantumdragon22
    @quantumdragon22 4 года назад +1431

    Dovahhatty did this man well

    • @Sandderad
      @Sandderad 4 года назад +100

      His video was way more accurate

    • @Jeff-tw7jk
      @Jeff-tw7jk 4 года назад +21

      He did it once more..

    • @randomuser5831
      @randomuser5831 4 года назад +127

      Based Dovahhatty giving us the real history

    • @hellomybaby-hellodarknessm6895
      @hellomybaby-hellodarknessm6895 4 года назад +63

      A man of patrician taste I see

    • @user-uy1rg8td1v
      @user-uy1rg8td1v 4 года назад +33

      Dovahhatty needs subtitles. I can barely understand whats he's saying with that thick accent.

  • @justdoingwork4072
    @justdoingwork4072 4 года назад +189

    Gotta say, best work so far! The story telling, the history, the visuals. This video can easily be compared to finding a Roman coin, hidden and once uncovered, beautiful.

  • @timmorrell9828
    @timmorrell9828 4 года назад +52

    You told this story so well that I legit shed a tear when Stilico was executed

  • @anticitizenjuan
    @anticitizenjuan 4 года назад +82

    The story of Stilicho would make an excellent HBO miniseries
    As someone who read Gibbon’s Decline and Fall and Hughes’ Stilicho, this was phenomenal.
    Subbed and looking forward to more

    • @givingisbetterthantaking..829
      @givingisbetterthantaking..829 Год назад +4

      D &F ORE is a monster to read. III volumes, Gibbon's style is rambling and detailed full. But I guess it will remain the final analysis of Romes successes and failures. It contains much to
      enlighten todays politicians.

    • @anantbijolia8415
      @anantbijolia8415 Год назад +5

      And imagine Alaric as the hated villain in that story for whom we start to vouch after Stilicho's death as he becomes the anti-hero!

    • @anantbijolia8415
      @anantbijolia8415 Год назад

      @chripianflopez I thought that was Netflix not HBO?

    • @justinbailey1239
      @justinbailey1239 Год назад +3

      @@anantbijolia8415 I think he's talking about the Velaryons from House of the Dragon, who in Fire and Blood were described as prototypical Valyrians (classic Targaryen looks), but were cast with black actors in the show. Still, they are fictional characters, while Netflix outright made a Greek/Macedonian historical figure black, which is an order of magnitude different.

    • @anticitizenjuan
      @anticitizenjuan Год назад +2

      @@anantbijolia8415 the narrative about cultural Romans and cultural Goths and the hatred and violence between them would also make for a good narrative without it being the typical “black people white people” beef in shows

  • @buffaloblack3993
    @buffaloblack3993 4 года назад +47

    Damn guy. That last piece had my heart strings pulling

  • @CalixtoGarciaIniguez1898
    @CalixtoGarciaIniguez1898 4 года назад +228

    Stilicho, Aetius, and Majorian, they were truly the last of the Romans.

    • @musicAle77
      @musicAle77 3 года назад +18

      And Belisarius

    • @caroline7648
      @caroline7648 2 года назад +9

      Marcelinus and Aegidius

    • @KingDanny9
      @KingDanny9 2 года назад +13

      Let's not forget Belisarius, the greatest Roman general of all time behind Caesar

    • @phillipwright7022
      @phillipwright7022 2 года назад +2

      @@KingDanny9 nope, best roman generals are scipio and germanicus

    • @KingDanny9
      @KingDanny9 2 года назад +6

      @@phillipwright7022 Why Scipio? It took forever to beat Hannibal, assuming that's the Scipio you're speaking of. As far as Germanicus, he fought super close to Italy, and Gaul was already under control. Germanicus was a great soldier but Belisarius was far from Rome and Constantinople when he crushed the Vandals and their allies. He reunited Rome with Constantinople when many thought it was impossible.
      I'm open to why I may be wrong though.

  • @lilguava70
    @lilguava70 4 года назад +177

    Only a matter of time until this channel gets huge. Glad to see your upload popup in my bell notifications

  • @phillipwright7022
    @phillipwright7022 2 года назад +71

    Stilicho reminds me a lot of the Chinese general Yue Fei of the Southern Song dynasty. Both were very capable generals with unconditional loyalty to the nation they served. both had to fight a two-front battle throughout their whole lives: they had to defend their borders from barbarians at one end and at the same time had to deal with absolute clowns in the court that only cared for their own political gain.

    • @anderso.nteles
      @anderso.nteles Год назад +15

      It makes me realize that a nation's worst enemies are within its borders.

    • @CrusadiaIX
      @CrusadiaIX Год назад +1

      “A murderer is less to fear.”

  • @pandawok301
    @pandawok301 4 года назад +603

    Just a reminder that Rome treated their barbarian allies like trash and use their troops as cannon fodder. Alaric’s revolt does have a good excuse.

    • @azazel7574
      @azazel7574 4 года назад +29

      Barbarian scum deserved it

    • @eduardogutierrez4698
      @eduardogutierrez4698 4 года назад +61

      It reminds me of the way Irish soldiers were treated by the Americans during the war against Mexico. Many of them were used as cannon fodder. No wonder they decided to defect to the Mexicans.

    • @creamycereal
      @creamycereal 4 года назад +47

      Bruh that’s why the franks literally were loyal to Rome until the very end

    • @dragonbones3885
      @dragonbones3885 4 года назад +37

      It was either 2nd class citizenship in the Roman empire, who keep in mind didn't have great relations to begin with or face the Huns and probably be wiped in the process

    • @joetheperformer
      @joetheperformer 2 года назад +93

      Agreed. Stilicho was a bridge between the oppressed and the elite. His worst enemy was most likely jealousy and selfish idiots.

  • @matgamarra
    @matgamarra 4 года назад +116

    I can’t believe how this channel isn’t one of the largest RUclips history channels. We shall be watching your career with great interest

    • @thegoodwin
      @thegoodwin 4 года назад +5

      "I am the Senate." - Palpatine.

    • @brutusvonmanhammer
      @brutusvonmanhammer 4 года назад

      From a small seed does a mighty tree grow

  • @raymondespera5161
    @raymondespera5161 4 года назад +211

    I can't wait for dovahhatty to get his hands to stilicho

    • @bobbyhill1110
      @bobbyhill1110 4 года назад +76

      If he made hannibal a chad, he can definitely make stilicho one.

    • @paulolucero9864
      @paulolucero9864 4 года назад +40

      First half barbarian Chad?
      Tbh the lack of chadness in the Rome as of lately makes me feel bad as shit

    • @gaiuzjuluzseazer9567
      @gaiuzjuluzseazer9567 4 года назад +5

      Certainly.

    • @yibithehispanic
      @yibithehispanic 4 года назад +27

      He made both the berber Quietus and the punic Hannibal chads, probably he will make some kind of zigzags to make Stilicho a Chad too.

    • @ronjayrose9706
      @ronjayrose9706 4 года назад

      😂😂😂same

  • @altiris6874
    @altiris6874 4 года назад +370

    Proud to be early to this growing channel.

  • @helium-379
    @helium-379 4 года назад +53

    Decedance, lack of unity, traitors, the sheer size of their tereitory, among many problems brought the empire to its knees inside out.

    • @tai-yomaruno3680
      @tai-yomaruno3680 4 года назад +6

      Also mass immigration

    • @nathangerlach7831
      @nathangerlach7831 2 года назад +3

      Noticing a few parallels here 🤔

    • @Gam18
      @Gam18 19 часов назад

      The only guy that can challange and defeat Alaric they betrayed him and the final blow was the laughter of barbarian civilians when they wanted to b part or Rome but Olympus blame the women n kids and all barbarians ns stead of individual groups

  • @ThugHunter323
    @ThugHunter323 3 года назад +12

    No one: "...."
    Alaric: " I want a high office"

  • @josephstalin6286
    @josephstalin6286 4 года назад +23

    The late empire truly was an age of tragic hero’s.

  • @lessonslearned6760
    @lessonslearned6760 4 года назад +40

    I’ve heard the story of the fall of the western empire told more times than I can recall but this narration was truly moving and really sets its self apart. Subscribed!

  • @Fenniks-
    @Fenniks- 4 года назад +30

    i have watched this video 3 times thats just how good it is. I admire Stilicho immensely he was one hell of a general.

  • @BlueDragen25
    @BlueDragen25 4 года назад +159

    I don't think I ever commented before but you really do deserve more subscribers.

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  4 года назад +15

      Much appreciated!

    • @dobledewom4074
      @dobledewom4074 4 года назад +4

      Agreed!

    • @kevinmarron5231
      @kevinmarron5231 4 года назад +5

      Well said! Thank you! I agree! 👍

    • @user-uy1rg8td1v
      @user-uy1rg8td1v 4 года назад

      @@HistoryDose Can you please turn down the music for your videos? It was getting too loud in parts and I had trouble hearing your words. I would even suggest leaving parts musicless and just having your voice.

    • @BatCostumeGuy
      @BatCostumeGuy 3 года назад

      @@user-uy1rg8td1v Half of my headphones don't work but I can still hear his voice correctly, you might have headphones with high bass or you cna just turn on mono audio from settings.

  • @karthikraju7098
    @karthikraju7098 4 года назад +123

    This is an incredible story, thank you for putting in the time and effort to tell it properly. Please keep making content like this, people will follow, it is only a matter of time.

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  4 года назад +9

      We truly appreciate the kind words. It's tough building an audience!

    • @kevinmarron5231
      @kevinmarron5231 4 года назад +1

      AGREED 👍

  • @Jazmillenium
    @Jazmillenium 4 года назад +120

    Watched this on a whim after another TW Attila playthrough. It's incredible the narrative you painted and the music and editing is fantastic.

  • @johnny307
    @johnny307 4 года назад +50

    Not going to lie, this was very captivating . The music and the way you narrated made this so enjoyable. I'm definitely binge watching your vids when I have time !

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  4 года назад +3

      Let us know what you think of the others!

  • @henrikg1388
    @henrikg1388 4 года назад +360

    I just wanted to say that Alaric behaved rather well in his sacking of Rome, compared to how Rome behaved when they conquered enemy cities.

    • @hellomybaby-hellodarknessm6895
      @hellomybaby-hellodarknessm6895 4 года назад +87

      Barbarian propaganda

    • @henrikg1388
      @henrikg1388 4 года назад +74

      ​@@hellomybaby-hellodarknessm6895 I've come to talk to you again. Because a vision softly creeping < DUM>. But seriously, read up on Alaric's sacking and what the Romans did to any city resisting, e.g. Carthage, and you will find that you're right. You were just confused who the barbarians were.

    • @PeptoBismarck244
      @PeptoBismarck244 2 года назад +46

      @@henrikg1388 Yes Legate. This man right here.

    • @powerist209
      @powerist209 2 года назад +32

      Also in that context, Alaric wanted it as a bargaining chip for promised land rather than outright conquest. He even hold his army and sent message to Honorius to grant his wishes or the city would be sacked (even then, he did try to avoid looting churches).
      He is still a Foederatii and served in Roman army.
      The sacking while scared the romans did ruin his chance for Gothic homeland, only to have them driven into Hispania with Vandals.

    • @neinman2222
      @neinman2222 Год назад +2

      @@valencian879 This response is always a sign of well below average intelligence. Everything we can tell about history is based on the historical records. Take a look a them before you speak.

  • @cornycontent1915
    @cornycontent1915 4 года назад +75

    Gru meme:
    Kill one of the greatest generals in Roman history
    Massacre the Goths who are of the same background as the people who are currently invading your lands
    Have them unite against you and destroy half of your empire, destroying one of the greatest civilizations after almost a thousand years.

  • @grimaffiliations3671
    @grimaffiliations3671 4 года назад +65

    This video deserves an award. I’m absolutely blown away. Please make more like this

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  4 года назад +8

      Thanks! We have one in the works already. Stay tuned!

    • @grimaffiliations3671
      @grimaffiliations3671 4 года назад +2

      History Dose Can’t. Fucking. Wait.

  • @raiden5386
    @raiden5386 4 года назад +11

    This nearly made me cry, Stilicho deserved better

  • @divifilius2357
    @divifilius2357 4 года назад +12

    Dude this gave me goosebumps all the way through. Plenty of great topics that are not mainstream so they don’t get covered as much. “Barbarian” generals such as Stilico deserve more coverage

  • @wardrm5598
    @wardrm5598 4 года назад +21

    Stilicho was a man of great character to the end of this life. Perseverance through constant adversity. Touching story. Best documentary about Stilicho I've seen on RUclips. Subscribed.

  • @randomgarbage5283
    @randomgarbage5283 2 года назад +11

    I'd honestly never heard of stillicho before this but now I can't say that he's one of my most favorite historical figures

  • @rodneybarton-hall3867
    @rodneybarton-hall3867 2 года назад +7

    A wonderfully powerful video of one of history's great dramas. I first became fascinated by the decline and fall of the Roman empire when I was a boy sixty years ago. You have made this story as thrilling for me now as I found it
    then. Thank you.

  • @Skibbi198
    @Skibbi198 4 года назад +37

    Somewhere that's special for me... somewhere that I can be free

  • @KingDanny9
    @KingDanny9 2 года назад +7

    Stilicho and Alaric deserve a movie

  • @originalpost1925
    @originalpost1925 2 года назад +11

    Rome's history is like a story, throughout it's time as once the capital of the greatest empire in Europe back in the classical ages, it is a story about greed, power, selflessness, and downfall. Rome is not only a story, but an example of all great empires that have ever existed, from the rise to power and then to the tragic downfall, Rome is a universal example of how rich and powerful empires are founded and then disintegrate into the pages of history, only to be remembered through the legacy that it left behind, and how it's existence will Echoe throughout the world, forever.

  • @deathreiz
    @deathreiz 4 года назад +40

    Felt like I just watched 5 seasons of an epic HBO original series, and was actually satisfied by the ending.
    Great stuff!

  • @blue_ocean7774
    @blue_ocean7774 4 года назад +192

    A great empire, brought to it's knees by the schemes of greedy men...

  • @miketacos9034
    @miketacos9034 2 года назад +6

    Dude I'm tearing up over Stilicho. No good deed goes unpunished.

  • @HistoryDose
    @HistoryDose  4 года назад +154

    What's your take on General Stilicho? A power-hungry warlord? A noble defender of Rome? Comment below!
    If you want to learn more about Stilicho and Rome's collapse follow our Amazon affiliate link for the amazing book helped us out a lot:
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    • @LateMarch3
      @LateMarch3 4 года назад +29

      I'll say we do see, in the video, some examples of Stilicho ordering assassinations, possibly lying about his claim to the Eastern throne, and facilitating the enslavement of Radagaisus' invaders. That said, he seems less ruthless than many of his Roman rivals and the barbarian invaders. His death probably caused more bloodshed than he ever did, enabling the genocide of peaceful foederati families and the sacking of Rome.

    • @justdoingwork4072
      @justdoingwork4072 4 года назад +14

      As anyone from Rome he did have an appetite for power, making some of his decisions to satisfy that hunger. But many things he did were done in order for the Roman Empire to remain great and unified. That was his main goal, unite both the West and Eastern Roman Empire.

    • @LateMarch3
      @LateMarch3 4 года назад +7

      @@justdoingwork4072 I'd pretty much agree. I also think maintaining any sort of political power in this era required a bit of ruthlessness. For example, if Stilicho hadn't had Mascezel drowned, perhaps he would've helped orchestrate Stilicho's demise. Perhaps he should've done the same with Olympius before it was too late.

    • @musername996
      @musername996 4 года назад +11

      Neither, I think he was a capable politician and general who got ever deeper into the game of politics until it was to late to quite alive.

    • @RocketHarry865
      @RocketHarry865 4 года назад +3

      sometimes the line of distinction is blurry and is even is two sides of the same coin

  • @uncannydan
    @uncannydan 4 года назад +7

    I'm a big story-teller-roman-history-buff, and THAT was a great video. Got me right in 'da feels in only 17 minutes, man!

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  4 года назад +1

      Thanks so much, Daniel!

    • @cam5816
      @cam5816 Год назад

      Know any other good ones? I think this is the best stand alone video I’ve seen so far. I like dovahhatty’s series too of course but History Dose always brings the stories to life really well like no one else I know. I wish it was covered more extensively like this, the stories of Rome was incredible and I’ll even admit it can bring me to tears sometimes like the end of this video did.

    • @uncannydan
      @uncannydan Год назад

      @@cam5816 I can't recommend any documentaries of this caliber, BUT a theatrical, historical series...'I, Claudius' BBC 1976. Free on Y.T. yeah liberties taken, but condensed and in essence accurate..HIGHLY recommended my friend.

  • @ililililili9726
    @ililililili9726 4 года назад +10

    I don't know why but i'm happy that finally this man is getting the appreciation he deserves it.

  • @alexanderfaust4192
    @alexanderfaust4192 2 года назад +9

    I spend so much time studying the late republic and early empire up through M Aurelius I haven't done a whole lot of reading on anything else. What an AMAZING but truly sad story :( FANTASTIC video btw. SUBBED!

  • @MetalxMasters
    @MetalxMasters 4 года назад +25

    God, what a heartbreaking story. You make amazing content.

  • @bogor1521
    @bogor1521 4 года назад +37

    The saddest death only second to julius caesar's. Ave Stilicho

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 4 года назад +14

      Caesar is debatable, even back then people questioned whether he actually meant the best for Rome or was just power hungry.

    • @codyvilela626
      @codyvilela626 4 года назад +1

      He was still Rome’s greatest hope just like poor Stilicho

    • @EinFelsbrocken
      @EinFelsbrocken 4 года назад +8

      @@hyperion3145 Look at his reforms. I think he wanted the best for rome. Sure; he was a natural narcist, so logically it haaad to be Caesar himself; but overall I think its true

    • @ililililili9726
      @ililililili9726 4 года назад +1

      @@EinFelsbrocken Not at all.

    • @EinFelsbrocken
      @EinFelsbrocken 4 года назад +1

      @@ililililili9726 okay, thx

  • @dragonbones3885
    @dragonbones3885 4 года назад +24

    Kind of wish you mentioned Aetius and Majorian, they did their best too to keep the Western Roman Empire together

  • @Boss70305
    @Boss70305 3 года назад +7

    One of my favorite history channels out there right now. The music, the editing, the storytelling - everything is perfect! Keep doing what you’re doing.

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  3 года назад +2

      Thank you! Comments like these make all the time and effort we put into these videos worth it.

  • @kevincordero3063
    @kevincordero3063 4 года назад +8

    I wanna cry every time I hear this story

  • @tudorurea5822
    @tudorurea5822 Год назад +3

    Beautiful. You made me cry. I'm historian and archeologist. It's so good how you made it.

  • @erisu69
    @erisu69 2 года назад +4

    This video is insanely well-produced and the storytelling is excellent. I've seen a lot of videos about Caesar and the gang at the end of the Republic, but not a lot about this later period. You brought it to life in a really compelling way!

  • @gangstalker47
    @gangstalker47 4 года назад +3

    Why can't I stop watching this MY HEART CAN'T TAKE IT!!!!!!! STILICHO WHY!!!?!??

  • @kafon6368
    @kafon6368 4 года назад +68

    When not even a successive number of extraordinary generals can save a country, you know it is doomed.

  • @joeditrolio8124
    @joeditrolio8124 4 года назад +7

    An absolute master piece in storytelling and an emotional roller coaster for a history lover such as myself. Thank you for this.

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  4 года назад +1

      Thanks so much! I'm glad the excitement I had for the story showed through.

  • @rahul87184
    @rahul87184 4 года назад +12

    This was made wonderfully. The visuals and narration are beyond professional. If I may suggest, a series on Belisarius would be amazing.

  • @cursor1459
    @cursor1459 4 года назад +150

    "The golden age of the Roman Empire has Passed. Its senator now place profits above patriotism."
    This is poignant for America as parallels can be observed.

    • @atriox7221
      @atriox7221 4 года назад +28

      Same could be said about almost every government system to exist on this forsaken rock

    • @John-tc9gp
      @John-tc9gp 4 года назад +8

      Yeah sadly America is doomed to the same fate. By the end of this century, it will almost certainly not be the most powerful country on earth, if it's still one country at all

    • @itsatrap8283
      @itsatrap8283 4 года назад +3

      And like in modern day europe staates

    • @thanoscube8573
      @thanoscube8573 4 года назад +13

      Everything must come to an end, even the greatest Empires that seem to live for an eternity will fall to the balancing hands of time.

    • @DualAxer
      @DualAxer 4 года назад +8

      America rises as a rebel state against Britain, rich trader families brainwashing the people into believing that their lives are worse than elsewhere. You reap what you sow.

  • @olsaaan
    @olsaaan 2 года назад +4

    This is one of the best history videos i've ever seen such good use of music and amazing storytelling.

  • @Nemenon
    @Nemenon 2 года назад +7

    This is the most beautiful history video I've ever seen, I felt like it took me through the entire journey with all the mixed emotions throughout. Incredible work to all involved.

    • @KingDanny9
      @KingDanny9 2 года назад

      Regarding Roman generals, this is probably the greatest video I've ever seen.

  • @nickleon58
    @nickleon58 2 года назад +8

    WOW! I just found your channel and have to say I am extremely impressed. As a long time history buff it’s so amazing to see these historic events played out in a story driven form like this; almost as if it’s a presentation of humankind’s “lore” in a grand epic. You just earned yourself a new sub!

  • @naufalnaufal125
    @naufalnaufal125 2 года назад +10

    Bruh, this is might be the first history related content that made me cry. The music at the end paired with this line "One wonder if Emperor Theodosius might have seen the writings on the wall all those years ago. Civil wars and constant invasion were certainly no sign of a healthy empire. But for a brief moment, for 13 years between 395 - 408, his half barbarian General Stilicho, held it together.
    Absolutely stellar work.

  • @FiikusMaximus
    @FiikusMaximus 2 года назад +4

    The production quality on this is wonderful!!! I absolutely loved watching this. Better than many historical films I've seen.

  • @johnborris3222
    @johnborris3222 3 года назад +3

    Finally, a great video on this man. I had told my family about Stilicho, now I can show them this video.

  • @1108penguin
    @1108penguin 4 года назад +50

    Great video, I just came here after watching the Unbiased History episode on the same topic. Weird to see Alaric not portrayed as a literal demon.

    • @RABartlett
      @RABartlett 2 года назад +1

      The History Channel series portrayed him even more sympathetically, and that while he and Stillico may have had their differences, would also things considered like to have worked together.

  • @MrAwrsomeness
    @MrAwrsomeness 4 года назад +246

    His death was avenged by his Germanic bodyguards, blood and honor

    • @matthewbabao9684
      @matthewbabao9684 3 года назад +43

      and as for aetius it was his scythian body guards that avenged for him

    • @powerist209
      @powerist209 3 года назад +8

      Interestingly, it was Petronius Maximus who planned it.
      Also goaded Valentinian III into murdering Aetius (a powerful rival) and later ordered the death of Valentinian III.
      Basically Syndrome from Incredibles or Hank Pym’s wife beating incident (he wanted to use a robot to destroy NY and stop it to make himself a fake hero but his wife tried to stop him but slap her in response).

    • @justaguy723
      @justaguy723 2 года назад +4

      That's oddly specific phrasing at the end there.

    • @MrAwrsomeness
      @MrAwrsomeness 2 года назад +1

      @@justaguy723 very based indeed

    • @justaguy723
      @justaguy723 2 года назад +2

      @@MrAwrsomeness just so we're clear, that phrasing was intentional and you know the context of that phrase?

  • @fraudrelic
    @fraudrelic 3 года назад +6

    This is the best history channel on RUclips. Your intros are like a reading a novel, powerful and laced with intrigue. Keep em coming!

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  3 года назад +1

      Got another video coming out soon. Stay tuned!

  • @AscentofTrollbane
    @AscentofTrollbane 4 года назад +29

    Ah yes, Honorious the Rat Emperor.

  • @brutongaster859
    @brutongaster859 4 года назад +8

    Great video! Had never heard of Stilicho before

  • @tiffanyhendricks1860
    @tiffanyhendricks1860 3 года назад +6

    Alaric really just avenged his greatest rival. The irony.

  • @sebis2009
    @sebis2009 4 года назад +13

    Just found this channel, will definitely be keeping a close eye on it. Everything is so slick and well represented, good work!

  • @jordanbrown929
    @jordanbrown929 4 года назад +21

    Amazing video with great storytelling!
    Throughout its history, Rome more or less successfully Romanized and assimilated the "barbarian" people it conquered. Unfortunately, they didn't accept the Romanized Germanic people as Roman, which was a big reason the Western Empire fell. Just imagine if the Romans had both successfully Romanized men of talent like Fritigern and Alaric AND accepted Romanized Germans like Stilicho.

  • @andrew_bao
    @andrew_bao 4 года назад +3

    Very few short documentaries bring tears to my eyes. That was an amazing story. Someone should make a tv series about this!

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  4 года назад +1

      Thanks so much. It's a great story we just felt compelled to tell

  • @number3545
    @number3545 2 года назад +3

    The quality of your videos is truly unmatched. This video is spectacular!

  • @musername996
    @musername996 4 года назад +6

    Astonishingly high quality content. I'm very impressed.
    Very fitting aesthetic and just the right level of detail.

  • @eduardogutierrez4698
    @eduardogutierrez4698 4 года назад +5

    The only thing that will end my grief over this video is you making another video on Flavius Belisarius

  • @noahjohnson935
    @noahjohnson935 Год назад +4

    I saw a video the other day saying how "If Rome wasn't full of so many different cultures it wouldn't have fallen"
    but honestly? Stilicho proves that notion wrong. Stilicho was in many ways the embodiment of "Barbarians" integrating themselves into Rome and being of extreme use to the Empire.
    It was incompetence and corruption that doomed Rome ultimately, combined with foreign invaders taking advantage of said incompetence and corruption.

  • @d.m.collins1501
    @d.m.collins1501 4 года назад +10

    Too bad Shakespeare didn't write a play about this! Or George R. R. Martin! Luckily we have you, dude. This was a fantastic spotlight shown on a piece of history that always seemed convoluted when read in history books, but you gave it legs, pathos, drama, and tragedy. I feel like I finally "get" it. Thank you.

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  4 года назад +1

      Thanks so much. Lots of work goes into each episode so I'm glad it clicked with you

    • @Worldtimes1
      @Worldtimes1 2 года назад +3

      In a way Its the same fate of Ned Stark

  • @john26razor340
    @john26razor340 2 года назад

    what needs to be pointed out, beyond the brilliant visuals, is the even more brilliant sound design of this video. It makes the video so much more engaging, immersive, and beautiful. Thank you.

  • @ryebread716
    @ryebread716 2 года назад +4

    This is a beautifully well put documentary. Thank you!

  • @julianpuig8465
    @julianpuig8465 2 года назад +1

    This has allways been my favourite episode in roman history, you truly did it justice, I've genuinely cried watching this art piece!

  • @westleyvince9984
    @westleyvince9984 2 года назад +3

    Watching and listening to this made me feel like I was experiencing a condensed Ridley Scott epic history film
    Bravo on the amazing choreography, writing & the music score with the voilins pulled at my heart strings
    Amazing, amazing work. Well done

  • @endo9384
    @endo9384 4 года назад +2

    Wow! The end with the music is incredible! Superb video.

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  4 года назад

      Much appreciated, David. Stay tuned!

  • @brooks7845
    @brooks7845 4 года назад +5

    This deserves way more views.

  • @zachkieri1185
    @zachkieri1185 2 года назад +1

    Wow, just wow. What a fantastic video and one of the best (definitely the easiest to follow) videos I have watched about the “end of the Roman Empire”

  • @lorbor1050
    @lorbor1050 Год назад +7

    Its pretty cool and ironic that a half barbarian was one of the last true defenders of rome

  • @sendawulakajubi2991
    @sendawulakajubi2991 2 года назад +1

    His death triggered Alaric’s invasion and sacking of Rome.

  • @easternhistorian4763
    @easternhistorian4763 4 года назад +7

    This was amazingly edited, I’m quite curious about the tools used here. Very well done!

  • @sethzynda3367
    @sethzynda3367 3 года назад +1

    I so want a movie trilogy of this mans life. The drama is unreal.