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RE: THIS CANUCKS TRADE WAS ONE OF THE WORST TRADES OF ALL TIME… (For Tampa Bay) JT Miller

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  • Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
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    We're going over an idea circulating online as to whether or not the Tampa Bay Lightning trading JT Miller to the Vancouver Canucks was a bad trade for the Bolts.
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    This video is taking place after the 2024 NHL Entry Draft, and after the 2024 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
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    1st) San Jose Sharks, Macklin Celebrini
    2nd) Chicago Blackhawks, Artyom Levshunov
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    4th) Columbus Blue Jackets, Cayden Lindstrom,
    5th) Montreal Canadiens, Ivan Demidov
    6th) Utah Hockey Club, Tij Iginla
    7th) Ottawa Senators, Carter Yakemchuk
    8th) Seattle Kraken, Berkly Catton
    9th) Calgary Flames, Zayne Parekh
    10th) New Jersey Devils, Anton Silayev
    11th) San Jose Sharks (from Buffalo Sabres), Sam Dickinson
    12th) Minnesota Wild (from Philadelphia Flyers), Zeev Buium
    13th) Philadelphia Flyers (from Minnesota Wild), Jett Luchanko
    14th) Buffalo Sabres (from Pittsburgh Penguins via San Jose Sharks), Konsta Helenius
    15th) Detroit Red Wings, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
    16th) St. Louis Blues, Adam Jiricek
    17th) Washington Capitals, Terik Parascak
    18th) Chicago Blackhawks (from New York Islanders), Sacha Boisvert
    19th) Vegas Golden Knights, Trevor Connelly
    20th) New York Islanders (from Tampa Bay Lightning via Chicago Blackhawks), Cole Eiserman
    21st) Montreal Canadiens (from Los Angeles Kings), Michael Hage
    22nd) Nashville Predators, Yegor Surin
    23rd) Anaheim Ducks (from Toronto Maple Leafs), Stian Solberg
    24th) Utah Hockey Club (from Colorado Avalanche), Cole Beaudoin
    25th) Boston Bruins (from Boston Bruins via Detroit Red Wings and Ottawa Senators), Dean Letourneau
    26th) Los Angeles Kings (from Winnipeg Jets via Montreal Canadiens), Liam Greentree
    27th) Chicago Blackhawks (from Carolina Hurricanes), Marek Vanacker
    28th) Calgary Flames (from Vancouver Canucks), Matvei Gridin
    29th) Dallas Stars, Emil Hemming
    30th) New York Rangers, EJ Emery
    31st) Toronto Maple Leafs (from Edmonton Oilers via Anaheim Ducks), Ben Danford
    32nd) Edmonton Oilers (from Florida Panthers via Philadelphia Flyers), Sam O'Reilly
    This video is also taking place after 2024 NHL Season, and after the 2024 Stanley Cup Playoffs, where the Florida Panthers defeated the Edmonton Oilers in the Finals.
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Комментарии • 39

  • @jacobjslee
    @jacobjslee Месяц назад +10

    I think it took a little too long for people to learn to love JT. Even when approaching the deadline for who to keep between Horvat or Miller I remember fans being ho hum about losing Miller because it was a foregone conclusion Horvat would stay (captain, true centreman, etc). I'd like to see fans give Miller the love he deserves this season to make up for the apathy they showed his first five years in Vancouver. JT might be one of the most versatile players in the league. He can play multiple positions, any situation, gets the points while nullifying opponents' star players, brings the passion to kick his teammates' asses when they're slacking, he's big and intimidating enough to stand up to anyone's tough guys - he is just awesome.

  • @nhlvan
    @nhlvan Месяц назад +6

    Tampa won 2 cups immediately following the trade. The cup nullifies any problems with moves leading up to it. The Miller trade freed up cap space and allowed the bolts to get necessary depth for their cup win. It's also a great trade for the Canucks. A win-win.

  • @christhornycroft3686
    @christhornycroft3686 Месяц назад +12

    It's hard to lose a trade when you end up with 2 Cup.s

  • @scott80ca
    @scott80ca Месяц назад +6

    The Canucks have made some horrible trades like the Cam Neely trade and the OEL trade especially. But they also hit it out of the park with the Miller trade and even more so with the Naslund trade. Naslund became a superstar and captain while the guy they traded to get him (Alex Stojanov) played only 45 games for the Pens scoring a whopping 2 goals then finsihed his career in the minors.

  • @AceMatthew25414
    @AceMatthew25414 Месяц назад +2

    I mean Tampa flipped the 1st for a piece of the line that was massive for their 2 Cups...

  • @coyotecreekband236
    @coyotecreekband236 Месяц назад

    I'm a HUGE JT Miller fan, but I still say that Benning overpaid for a salary dump. A 2nd and a 3rd plus a prospect would have been enough, but Benning always overpaid.

  • @bodhithomas5684
    @bodhithomas5684 Месяц назад +1

    That 1st round pick the lightning got resulted in them getting Blake Coleman who was a big part of those cup wins. Miller wasn’t that big a part of the Lightning while still getting a good return, unlike what they would have got for Tyler Johnson. No guarantee Miller has the same success with Tampa and no guarantee Tampa wins the cup if they don’t make that trade. Win win trade

  • @dcijluther4015
    @dcijluther4015 Месяц назад +1

    Can Neely trade was probably worse.
    You remember how stacked Tampa bay was when they traded miller? They couldn’t keep him.

  • @boltinabottle6307
    @boltinabottle6307 Месяц назад

    If the Lightning keep Miller, they don't get Coleman or Goodrow the following year. This wasn't even close to a bad trade for TB. Win-win for both teams. Bad take.

  • @Seriously_Unserious
    @Seriously_Unserious Месяц назад

    I'd call it a fair trade. The Lightning got assets that could have turned out better, but did help them win back to back Stanley Cups, and the Canucks got a bona fide superstar power forward in JT, who may yet help us win our first Stanley Cup. Yup, fair trade. When trading for prospects, you can't always predict how they will turn out in the long run, that's always the risk you take when trading proven talent for future potential. That potential that could be in the future is not always realized. Also, Miller wasn't exactly on a trajectory with the Lightning to be the point a game to 100 point guy he's become here. The opportunities, chemistry and coaching he's gotten here are much different then what he would have gotten there. Maybe he'd have turned out better, worse or the same, but that's all speculation. What we know is by coming here, he got opportunities to play on lines he'd never otherwise have gotten, and won himself a role as a solid top 6 forward and top line centre that may never have happened in Tampa, where they already had their top line guys already in place at the time. Whereas Vancouver was in the midst of a period of continuous retooling and so there were openings for him to get those top line minutes and responsibilities and he showed his true colours by rising to the occasion. I think the trade put everyone right where they needed to be for good things to happen.

  • @FloridaHockeyFan
    @FloridaHockeyFan Месяц назад

    Tampa was front loaded with talent and had to make a decision. At the time just getting a first was great for tampa. Everyone knew they needed cap help and no one wanted to make yzerman look good. You must forget how tampa got jt miller and ryan mcdonaugh...

  • @terminalfilms8074
    @terminalfilms8074 Месяц назад +3

    this is a case of hindsight being 20/20

    • @Seriously_Unserious
      @Seriously_Unserious Месяц назад

      This is a case of both teams got what they needed. Tampa got the parts that won them 2 Stanley Cups (can't argue with that), and the Canucks got a guy they could try out as a top 6 forward and he showed the NHL what he was made of, and it looks like all stars and true leadership. The kind of player who can lead the team to one or more Stanley Cups of our own.

  • @SportsMuppets
    @SportsMuppets Месяц назад +1

    Jt Miller was a great pick up for the Vancouver Canucks

  • @Canuckzprod
    @Canuckzprod Месяц назад +1

    Lightnings=📉Canucks=📈

  • @user-em1ds2sr7q
    @user-em1ds2sr7q Месяц назад

    As much as I love JT Miller Tampa only traded him for a cap dump that led to 2 cups I honestly think its a fair trade to both although the Canucks got the best player overall until today, 2 cup speeks volumes

  • @goodeye6373
    @goodeye6373 Месяц назад

    I was super happy we got him. I saw him play every year and it looked to me he was held back from his true potential. He played a lot of third line minutes. I felt he was very under appreciated before we got him and could tell many doubted him. I also forgot he is a big man. Kind of like Bert. Big guy dominates most of the play. He was actually one of my favorite players not on the Canucks. Also Bert came to us in a trade. I was hoping Kassian would be one of those guys. Not quite. Miller in my opinion has been our best player the last two seasons. Excluding Hughes.

  • @Count3d
    @Count3d Месяц назад

    Also I bet a lot of the people shitting on that trade at the time are the same people needlessly constantly shitting on Benning today, conveniently forgetting the guy only assembled our entire freaking core.

  • @Count3d
    @Count3d Месяц назад

    Good lord those comments were hilariously angry bad haha. Canucks fans... we can be pretty dumb sometimes!

  • @Jay-gi6oh
    @Jay-gi6oh Месяц назад +1

    This is some weird cope.

  • @Theemptylife
    @Theemptylife Месяц назад

    But a first round pick could be anything! It could’ve even been a JT Miller type player!

  • @noiisserpmii
    @noiisserpmii Месяц назад

    Just think the trades we (NYR) did after the letter. JT & Mac trade was horrendous. Even the Stepan trade the year prior was GARBAGE.

  • @waynechurch2981
    @waynechurch2981 Месяц назад

    They also traded cam neely the Trevor linden trade was also just crap

  • @user-js3gs7du3h
    @user-js3gs7du3h Месяц назад

    JT is a scrappy fellow but time will tell if he can handle the rigors of the NHL.

  • @benjaminaxselholm
    @benjaminaxselholm Месяц назад

    Win win. You dont value the cap space tampa got enough

  • @severed111
    @severed111 Месяц назад

    Yeah, tiktok video is false or worse as usual (when it's not just cute animals).

  • @calvincharlie703
    @calvincharlie703 Месяц назад

    Who got picked that the team got for the Canucks 1st round pick? Does anyone know?

    • @pierre-oliviertardif4478
      @pierre-oliviertardif4478 Месяц назад

      The Devils picked Shakir Makhamadullin, who was part of the Timo Meier trade with San Jose

  • @neilflood6508
    @neilflood6508 Месяц назад

    The worst trade in NHL history is the Stephane Beauregard trade.

    • @Uncle_Troy
      @Uncle_Troy Месяц назад +1

      Holy smokes! This guy got traded FIVE times within 365 days in 1992-93, including three trades where he effectively left Winnipeg and then came back within eight weeks? 🙈

    • @scott80ca
      @scott80ca Месяц назад +1

      Ya Hasek became a superstar. It's easily as bad as the Stojanov for Naslund trade, if not worse.

    • @neilflood6508
      @neilflood6508 Месяц назад

      @@Uncle_Troy Yep, but one of his trades was for a hall of famer,

    • @neilflood6508
      @neilflood6508 Месяц назад

      @@scott80ca Naslund was a top class player, but not in the top 3 in his position in the history of the game like Hasek was.

  • @wickerman420
    @wickerman420 Месяц назад +1

    For Tampa Bay it was the worst trade good for Vancouver

  • @Canucksnate
    @Canucksnate Месяц назад +2

    Canucks fleeced Tampa in that trade

    • @TiggaTrey
      @TiggaTrey Месяц назад

      tampa got 2 cups yall got robbed so bad you still think you got the better end of the deal 💀💀

    • @Canucksnate
      @Canucksnate Месяц назад

      @@TiggaTrey we did all they got was a third round pick