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  • Опубликовано: 8 янв 2025

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  • @heavyburnman47
    @heavyburnman47 5 лет назад +138

    57:11 "Minecraft's popular, we could make uh, we could make uh..." -Lewis 2019
    oof

  • @GangdangleOfficialChannel
    @GangdangleOfficialChannel 5 лет назад +86

    Lewis "Mediterranean diet doesn't have any animal products in it" Brindly
    Yes Italian, Greek and Spanish cuisine is well known of being devoid in meats and cheeses.

    • @MrDoYouKnowMe2211
      @MrDoYouKnowMe2211 5 лет назад +19

      if you haven't figured it out yet, 70% of everything said on the Triforce podcast is misinformation.

    • @MrAntrix
      @MrAntrix 5 лет назад +1

      And Portuguese!

    • @adamlee2550
      @adamlee2550 5 лет назад +2

      @@MrAntrix I don't know if I would say it's on the mediterranean, but Portuguese food is super nice and very cheap for good quality.

    • @hend094
      @hend094 4 года назад

      I think it's the idea that they eat more fish

  • @_syntaxera_
    @_syntaxera_ 5 лет назад +99

    "We have some very tight children!" -Lewis 2019

    • @_syntaxera_
      @_syntaxera_ 5 лет назад +1

      @@Glitchy456 you should be more worried if you combine it with the slaver lewis quote

  • @jmjedi923
    @jmjedi923 5 лет назад +143

    Lewis Is vegan? He's already allergic to like three fourths of all matter on earth, what does he eat? Air?

  • @OGNuggz
    @OGNuggz 5 лет назад +38

    gin, a way healthier and totally vegan milk alternative

  • @joshconfer209
    @joshconfer209 5 лет назад +12

    An actual yogsquest joke from brindles. Amazing.

  • @I0d0ma
    @I0d0ma 5 лет назад +2

    I love listening to Lewis stumbling over his words trying to figure out where to start

  • @HerohammerStudios
    @HerohammerStudios 5 лет назад +62

    Oooooh, they're doing YogPod? Oh Lew Lew, you naughty boy. Spoilers

    • @bryanlinsmeyer3521
      @bryanlinsmeyer3521 5 лет назад +13

      I mean it was released at the same time as this

    • @HerohammerStudios
      @HerohammerStudios 5 лет назад +6

      @@bryanlinsmeyer3521 oh it was on the main channel. Weird

  • @guabeyo8978
    @guabeyo8978 5 лет назад +77

    I didn't even know doing one of those sponsorships was worth about a month of work in money. If that's the case, selling out doesn't seem that bad

    • @biannualstabbing2375
      @biannualstabbing2375 5 лет назад +32

      "selling out" was just a concept created by no bodies to demean those who are more successful than them.

    • @luker.6967
      @luker.6967 5 лет назад +16

      Depends on the nature of the sellout, and how bad you need the money, but yeah I generally agree. I think you don't have any right to complain about sellouts unless you have been in a similar scenario and said no.

    • @JoeR-cd9jg
      @JoeR-cd9jg 5 лет назад +4

      @@davidlisteresq I only consider it selling out if its doing something that goes against them. Like if Yogscast made a video about something they had said they dont like

    • @frydsaman6857
      @frydsaman6857 5 лет назад +4

      @@biannualstabbing2375 selling out is basically giving up on your beliefs to try and market something you wouldn't otherwise try and market. so ur wrong essentially

  • @oneone425270
    @oneone425270 5 лет назад +19

    Avocados are terrible for the environment but no-one ever talks about it. They divert whole river systems to water avocados farms which destroys local habitats. They can only be grown in parts of the world that trouble providing enough clean drinking water for the populous. Its a serious problem in some parts of the world.

  • @bhaveshshah7383
    @bhaveshshah7383 4 года назад +4

    the bald guy getting pissy at a haircut lmao

  • @twot2224
    @twot2224 5 лет назад +4

    Pyrion's comment about the humblebundle is spot on!

  • @alec7978
    @alec7978 5 лет назад +3

    Rush is fantastic. Some of the most genuine guys and absolutely fuckin mind blowing playing. Beyond The Lighted Stage and Time Stand Still are amazing documentaries.

  • @Wilper96
    @Wilper96 5 лет назад +2

    A new Yogpod and Triforce on the same day!? This is truly a blessed day!

  • @sageboys2
    @sageboys2 5 лет назад +3

    42:10 Thanks Pyrion we got it! Also 45:03 , 46:38 , and 47:57

  • @rusinsr
    @rusinsr 5 лет назад +33

    I did some thorough fact-checking for a few of the claims made:
    Correct, Cows have a lactation cycle that requires them to be impregnated every year if you want to have consistent fat levels / them be healthy, but of course it is possible to milk them for longer, just like with human nannies back in the day.
    Incorrect, Milk is good for you because it contains a bunch of cool things like calcium and protein. It doesn't change your body's ph levels (that's a popular myth) because other organs make sure your ph stays stable, and like, seriously, if diet could change your body's ph level so much, us humans would have way more problems lol. The saturated fats in whole milk, however, might increase the likelihood of some heart / blood based health conditions, however they decrease the chances of others, so I'm not too sure about that one. I prefer skimmed milk anyway lol

    • @armchairphilosopher6880
      @armchairphilosopher6880 5 лет назад +16

      "Adult humans aren't supposed to drink milk anyways"
      yeah well humans aren't also supposed to drink a double shot super grande caramel pumpkin spice espresso from Starbucks every day BECKY!

    • @pascusrex4152
      @pascusrex4152 5 лет назад +5

      also nobody really NEEDS cow's milk, you can also drink a calcium rich mineral water or eat other calcium rich products. Why on earth would one species of primate mammal be in need of a bovine secretion to be healthy, even though they didn't live together for 99% of the primates evolution. You need cow's milk as much as you need camel milk or cat milk.

    • @fugyfruit
      @fugyfruit 5 лет назад +4

      @@pascusrex4152 Well humans do make milk and that is very good for infants, so it'd make sense that another animals milk would also be good for humans

    • @samanthavanscoder9536
      @samanthavanscoder9536 5 лет назад +2

      @@pascusrex4152 i would totally drink cat milk

    • @TheHarleyEvans
      @TheHarleyEvans 5 лет назад +8

      everybody always ignores the one thing that makes milk worth drink in a nutritional sense, it's full of FAT. it's great if you want to put weight on, or have a low calorie diet that needs a boost. it's also the reason why it's great for developing kids as it's a readily available and readily storable cache of energy for growth. the other stuff like calcium, magnesium, protein and micro nutrients are just an added boon.

  • @unclekasperlt7660
    @unclekasperlt7660 5 лет назад +41

    Did anyone else look at the title and think about Sheogorath?

    • @Gallstaff621
      @Gallstaff621 5 лет назад +2

      That can be as much of a celebration if you don't like cheese, true?

    • @theepicduck2000
      @theepicduck2000 5 лет назад +3

      D’you mind? I’m busy doing the fish stick. It’s a very delicate state of mind!

    • @epodekomsthehunter5756
      @epodekomsthehunter5756 5 лет назад

      This is literally why i clicked on the video to begin with

  • @lebheidenstrm5392
    @lebheidenstrm5392 5 лет назад +2

    Pyrion Flax giving props to Rush. I fall over.

  • @copydepastey
    @copydepastey 5 лет назад +7

    love tom scott! cody's lab is interesting as well

  • @theishiopian68
    @theishiopian68 5 лет назад +1

    Yogpod and triforce in the same day? Yes please!

  • @armchairphilosopher6880
    @armchairphilosopher6880 5 лет назад +5

    I've done some thinking since sips mentioned "imagine someone you respect taking a shit" in order to bring people down from their pedestal. It didn't work for me, I came to terms with that being normal, so I started picturing people taking a shit on my dog. Not only did this make me loose respect for everyone shitting on my dog, I now regard my dog a secretly traumatized from all of these famous people that shat on him. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go check on him, I just thought of Andre the giant. I am now scared.

  • @xXmennovichXx
    @xXmennovichXx 5 лет назад +2

    31:34, there is a huge shortage of waiters and restaurant personel in cities.

  • @teph1256
    @teph1256 5 лет назад

    who bet that lewis was going to speak about his diet AGAIN. you're the winner ding ding ding

  • @murpaderp8461
    @murpaderp8461 5 лет назад +2

    Pyrion is such a salt shaker.

  • @BunkPhD
    @BunkPhD 5 лет назад +21

    Had to stop watching a Sips stream to listen to Triforce. Sorry.

  • @GhostOfSparta
    @GhostOfSparta 3 года назад +1

    I'm getting to the October podcasts a year later lol

  • @Trixxeii
    @Trixxeii 5 лет назад

    The day has finally come where I've finally caught up... what do I listen to while I do my hw now

  • @benjaminemery9716
    @benjaminemery9716 5 лет назад +1

    Is it a coincidence that I had an ad featuring a song which includes the lyrics "...push me.. " around the 10min mark?

  • @zeal9556
    @zeal9556 5 лет назад

    Man I work nights at a gas station and listened to the entire podcast twice in 2 months :(

  • @Brandon695
    @Brandon695 5 лет назад +22

    Lol yes Lewis you dont need calcium. Bones? Blood clotting? No please who needs those.

    • @samanthavanscoder9536
      @samanthavanscoder9536 5 лет назад

      I cant tell if your joking

    • @Brandon695
      @Brandon695 5 лет назад +11

      As a nutrition major, I can tell you that firstly Vit D activates the absorption of calcium. That is why Vit D is added to milk so they can be consumed together before that kind got rickets and osteoporosis was worse because your body will just rip calcium out of your bones if your blood calcium level changes. Also, vit D is a fat-soluble vitamin so you are going to only really absorb it when it can be surrounded by fat like in milk. Along with the consumption of dietary fibers and phytates, it further reduces your absorption because it binds it so less is touching your intestinal lining. ALSO when taking in any form of calcium tea and coffee have whats called polyphenols that reduce your absorption by 30-40% on top of the normal bioavailability is only 25-60% anyway you might absorb 60mg of Calcium from a cup of cooked spinach the most calcium-rich vegetable out of the 1000mg you need for the day and thats if you have enough Vitamin D at the time to activate the absorption. Though I can say that when your body is very low in calcium and vitamin D it trys really hard to absorb any little bit it gets so maybe like 80mg? But ya thats why lewis doesnt know what he is talking about.

    • @Brandon695
      @Brandon695 5 лет назад

      sorry collard greens is the most calcium rich veg but i used the mg for collard greens for my calculation anyway so.

    • @4tonmike
      @4tonmike 5 лет назад +2

      One might say veganism isn't about health anyway, it's the next iteration of vegetarianism, which is a ritual from religion, repurposed to make a personal statement for social status points, or to fill the need for a cause to champion.

    • @I_THE_ME
      @I_THE_ME 5 лет назад +2

      @@Brandon695 Vitamin D being added to milk overall isn't all that important in a southern area like UK especially if one has a balanced diet. But for a sweaty basement dwelling vegetarian who never sees the light of day and hasn't gone to a gym after calling his personal trainer gay, Lewis might get osteoporosis in the near future.
      Also Ca²+ ions are extremely important for neurological impulses.

  • @harmonheater4377
    @harmonheater4377 5 лет назад +1

    Rush toured their last tour, ended last year:/ got to see them a while back tho, great show

  • @Ahkmedren
    @Ahkmedren 5 лет назад

    Holy shit, Lewis hit himself with a Yogventures joke. Nice

  • @CLBellamey
    @CLBellamey 5 лет назад +5

    I love Sips' great explanation of vegan ideals and how he handle's Pflax's closed-mindedness.

  • @TheSteveMeister
    @TheSteveMeister 5 лет назад +6

    I think flax forgets that the world doesn't revolve around him.

  • @atrustworthyfellow6887
    @atrustworthyfellow6887 Месяц назад +1

    Lewis refusing to eat already made food due to his moral statutes (which presumably ends up in the bin) only to order food at another restaurant and cause unnecessary waste/garbage to be produced is exactly why most people don't take vegans seriously. For these people, it's not about actually reducing the harm they cause to the earth, it's about feeling like they're making a superior choice or avoiding the reality of animal suffering at human hands. anyway shout out to anyone still watching this.

  • @toolworks
    @toolworks 5 лет назад +2

    Interesting that they mention Jam Master Jay at the beginning of this podcast, as 30 October is the anniversary of his death.

  • @aeos2387
    @aeos2387 5 лет назад +2

    Happy Halloween to all

  • @OfficiallyANerd
    @OfficiallyANerd 5 лет назад

    56:50 that’s one for madcat

  • @charliecrome207
    @charliecrome207 5 лет назад +3

    41:30 a lot of "how not to die" is heavily biased. There are places in Italy that have diets with large amounts of cheese and meat in their diet and have some of the longest life expectancies in the world.

    • @CLBellamey
      @CLBellamey 5 лет назад

      It's all based on studies, so how is it biased?

    • @charliecrome207
      @charliecrome207 5 лет назад +2

      @@CLBellamey because it cherry picks studies that suit it's narrative

    • @JoeR-cd9jg
      @JoeR-cd9jg 5 лет назад

      @@SenorDelFuego i think that was the point. You can make an argument for saying anything is good or bad if you mess with the wording and leave out certain things on purpose or not.
      For instance there is this one thing that everyone who has consumed it has died. Air.

    • @zoravar.k7904
      @zoravar.k7904 5 лет назад

      @@CLBellamey you do realise that there are lots of conflicting studies especially when look at diet and populations.

  • @Pratalax
    @Pratalax 5 лет назад +2

    Ahhh yeah i do love a bit o Tom Scott.

  • @christouchtone3078
    @christouchtone3078 5 лет назад +2

    cant wait for the bodega book comes back instock

  • @Pilsnor
    @Pilsnor 5 лет назад +2

    I really like the new snoop dogg album “i wanna thank me” he is almost 50 now

  • @3nchiridion
    @3nchiridion 5 лет назад +1

    It's tooltips all the way down.

  • @horrisnorris6478
    @horrisnorris6478 5 лет назад +3

    There's tons of amazing hiphop from the 80s. Look at Public Enemy - Chuck D is one of the best lyricists in hiphop!

    • @jjtheblue11
      @jjtheblue11 5 лет назад

      it is almost like Lewis is slightly ignorant on 80s hip hop.

  • @MindMessed
    @MindMessed 5 лет назад

    “Well she’s, she’s uh, she’s a conniving bitch. “ -Pyrion Flax (About his wife) 2019

  • @jakeypakey2
    @jakeypakey2 5 лет назад

    I used to follow the dev vids from the game Lewis referenced at the end. I was looking forward to it. Yogscast skinned minecraft clone more or less but it looked nice

  • @mothified1676
    @mothified1676 5 лет назад +8

    Yogscast Humble bundles are amazing! there are a lot of games in them that I still play with friends! we especially like Mimic Arena since we do like a good couch multiplayer game

    • @plopap
      @plopap 5 лет назад +1

      Mothified I think Lewis has a lot more work this year, from what I understand Turps used to deal with a lot of the bundle in the past. That’s why he’s stressing

  • @markhackett2302
    @markhackett2302 5 лет назад

    You can develop lactose intolerance. It's not particularly uncommon, it's just we are habituated to milk so much we just put up with any minor case of lactose intolerance.

  • @apophisdd
    @apophisdd 5 лет назад

    Double fucking advert in the middle of Pyrion's rant about annoying sponsorship announcement. Irony.

  • @luker.6967
    @luker.6967 5 лет назад +1

    Legends of Runeterra is pretty unique actually.

  • @normeon4292
    @normeon4292 5 лет назад +2

    As a meat eater, who has had meat from field to fork (and been involved in the whole process) I have no problem with anyone eating anything. But the whole milk thing... most people don't even know the the cows udders are cut so they fit the machine, rather than make a machine to fit more than 4 udders. Animals are miss treated in some way for our benefit, to think otherwise is just ignorance

  • @teucer_
    @teucer_ 5 лет назад +2

    Simplify and Paradox? Never!

  • @MrHobbi2
    @MrHobbi2 5 лет назад +23

    PLEASE, DO PYRION AND SIPS LOVE ANIME! Theres gotta be an audience for this right?

    • @noodlecat_
      @noodlecat_ 5 лет назад +3

      100000% yes

    • @Xalphoria
      @Xalphoria 5 лет назад

      i would love that it was hilarous but as pflax said it was not the most enjoyable thing for him ever unfortunately i dont think we will ever get it back

  • @kingjesuseser1384
    @kingjesuseser1384 5 лет назад

    speaking of ck2 I once had a strong claim at the whole of byzantine empire. too bad I was only a lowly fuedal king

  • @codyharris2588
    @codyharris2588 5 лет назад

    2 weeks gone by and I need my fix, when is the next triforce scheduled?

  • @braydenh190
    @braydenh190 5 лет назад

    Lewis speaking of a plateau and things that work for him on RUclips. Oh YOU DONT SAY

  • @seanalexander582
    @seanalexander582 5 лет назад

    Education RUclipsrs are great!

  • @4tonmike
    @4tonmike 5 лет назад +2

    Love hearing about inside baseball and paradox. Milk not healthy? I understood veganism was not about health.

  • @icecreep109
    @icecreep109 5 лет назад

    Wow, it feels so weird to know that they watch so many of the same people that I do.

  • @danielnewman9913
    @danielnewman9913 5 лет назад

    To Pyrion it's the ability to suffer and feel pain. Plants don't have a central nervous system and have not evolved a way to feel pain and suffer. Pain is an evolutionary tool to avoid bad situations. You don't evolve to feel pain and not evolve a way to get away from the pain.
    Cheese is bad because of
    A) the calves who get killed
    B) the cows being forced into pregnancy repeatedly, having the calves stolen and then being slaughtered as soon as they stop producing milk and
    C) the amount of resources in both water, land use and feed that it takes to keep these cows going.

    • @JoeR-cd9jg
      @JoeR-cd9jg 5 лет назад

      The calves being killed isnt a bad thing. It is just a thing, possibly even a good thing since it is a highly valuable byproduct. Same with point 2. Only bad parts is point 3, but there are costs to keep farms running so.

    • @danielnewman9913
      @danielnewman9913 5 лет назад

      @@JoeR-cd9jg But to say "nothing gets hurt to make cheese and milk" is wrong.
      And obviously I have different feeling on the whole "killing animals for pleasure" thing.

  • @DunningofKruger
    @DunningofKruger 5 лет назад

    Pyriom tryna act like Riot is ripping everyone’s games off (not unfounded) when hirez studios exists.

  • @oHEADKASEo
    @oHEADKASEo 5 лет назад

    25:45

  • @edwardsmall3680
    @edwardsmall3680 5 лет назад

    Christ Lewis, how many f-bombs during that CK3 chat? xD

    • @edwardsmall3680
      @edwardsmall3680 5 лет назад

      A rate of 5 fucks per minute between 24:51 and 26:22

  • @DUSTintheDNA
    @DUSTintheDNA 5 лет назад

    Black Moon just released an album. They've definitely stagnated some. Still some great production but they dont have much to talk about anymore.

  • @tarnyowl6068
    @tarnyowl6068 5 лет назад

    Did you ever hear the take of the sword of Damocles it’s all about the fear and precarious position that a king is in.

  • @fancybird274
    @fancybird274 5 лет назад

    Anyone know what the yogscast server is called for rust?

  • @jamesrolfe4692
    @jamesrolfe4692 5 лет назад

    Please do more games together triforce!

  • @Sky14714
    @Sky14714 5 лет назад

    But.. if the contract thing is true.. What about Sjin?

  • @theshiftybloke4672
    @theshiftybloke4672 5 лет назад +1

    I hope you've all seen Abroad in Japan :c

  • @blakeblox
    @blakeblox 5 лет назад +3

    Humans healthily drinking milk for thousands of years:
    Lewis: Milk simply isn’t healthy

  • @danielnewman9913
    @danielnewman9913 5 лет назад +6

    Also veganism isn't about being perfect. You can't live and not damage the environment and animals in some way.
    But it's about limiting your impact as much as possible and seeking alternatives. It's easier now than ever before to just pick the alternative and just do your bit.
    You can't sit there and complain about the Amazon burning down and big corporations while consistently and daily giving these same corporations your money.
    The reason there are so many alternatives is that business sees the money in it. If the more environmentally friendly/less suffering option makes more money these companies will jump on board.

  • @ChocolateMilkMonster
    @ChocolateMilkMonster 5 лет назад +4

    Lewis' rant about RUclipsrs getting old sounded almost self aware.

  • @charlienunn7759
    @charlienunn7759 5 лет назад

    Hire anybody!? Perfect! I graduated from Video Games Art and Design over a year and still haven't got a job!

  • @jmjedi923
    @jmjedi923 5 лет назад

    I hope there's a borderlands 3 trinket tbh since they've done a lot of stuff with them over the year

  • @soylent_brown4456
    @soylent_brown4456 4 года назад

    I mean... technically humans who are lactose intolerant are more... _natural?_ than people who drink milk.

  • @markm1138
    @markm1138 5 лет назад +1

    Rush isnt touring these days.

  • @UniTea__
    @UniTea__ 5 лет назад +2

    On the topic of veganism; A big reason for it is that the entire animal farm market is very bad for the environment because of gasses and such, as well as the fact that it takes so much plant-based food to get animal based products in comparison to how many people that same food could feed in comparison.

  • @DooblesGoDoobles
    @DooblesGoDoobles 5 лет назад

    I don't know what the fuck Lewis was talking about at the beginning

  • @AquaAtia
    @AquaAtia 2 года назад

    I miss 2019

  • @pagnacht
    @pagnacht 5 лет назад

    Pyrion, if you think for a second that animals arent abused for you to get cheese, you must be willingly ignorant on the topic.

    • @pagnacht
      @pagnacht 5 лет назад

      Its even more sad to hear the conversation of bees. Research is the key to knowledge.

  • @SipsNumberOneFan
    @SipsNumberOneFan 5 лет назад

    9:00

  • @gnarwhale
    @gnarwhale 5 лет назад

    Fuck yes

  • @niksuto
    @niksuto 5 лет назад

    Unionize the bees!

  • @gametron3210
    @gametron3210 5 лет назад +1

    sips needs to listen to drill
    also the 70s was the beggining of hip hop

  • @ErnestAutist
    @ErnestAutist 5 лет назад +2

    First up have you not heard of Prophets of Rage?
    Cypress Hill and rage against the machine. amazing live. Also saw Blacksabbath for the first time in 2012 watching Ozzy grandad-run from one end of the stage to the other was fucking amazing.

  • @AceHardy
    @AceHardy 5 лет назад

    👑

  • @starboy832
    @starboy832 5 лет назад +2

    sheogorath?

  • @murpaderp8461
    @murpaderp8461 5 лет назад +1

    I love how this turned into the vegan podcast.

  • @megamarz5387
    @megamarz5387 5 лет назад

    Yay new one

  • @maxinecantspeak
    @maxinecantspeak 5 лет назад

    Unless you're Brian Johnson from ACDC, poor mans voice blew out in the 90's :/

  • @BigBigBigJeff
    @BigBigBigJeff 5 лет назад

    Zoomers DO NOT shun Wu Tang

  • @lordbinkythebuffoon5465
    @lordbinkythebuffoon5465 5 лет назад +3

    You can easily lose your lactose tolerance if you don't eat dairy. Same with other tolerances. Hence teenage girls who become vegan or w/e with their mates end up with a million and one dietary issues. Keep it balenced. (obligitary 'not-all') Beekeepers exploiting bees labour is hilarious lol

  • @TheFirebrandJuggalo
    @TheFirebrandJuggalo 5 лет назад

    Is it just me or was p flax really quiet this episode? Hope he's okay.

    • @jt1687
      @jt1687 5 лет назад +1

      Lewis didn't really have the best conversation topics this week tbh. He seemed fine in the TIP video though.

  • @Mr_Kiwi_the_Wizard
    @Mr_Kiwi_the_Wizard 5 лет назад

    i avoid chicken or fowl in general if i can avoid it. i dont like the idea of eating bird.

  • @Danneleet
    @Danneleet 4 года назад

    But keeping bees and eating the hunnieee must be the vegan alternative?
    Not keeping bees would hurt the wildlife and environment.

  • @plopap
    @plopap 5 лет назад +6

    Pflax malding because league is more popular than Dota OMEGALUL

  • @c5on
    @c5on 5 лет назад

    I was expecting some nice Paradox con story, but then Brindley veganism Pusher hapend.

  • @smooth4553
    @smooth4553 5 лет назад

    Hey dont you come for my boy CodysLab like that Lewis, hes the fucking best

  • @pelonkhan4467
    @pelonkhan4467 4 года назад +1

    #AnimalsAreFood

  • @markhackett2302
    @markhackett2302 5 лет назад +1

    Double (triple?) platinum band "All Saints" went bankrupt because the publisher told them what to wear from where and what to drive and where to get it from. Which happened to be companies the publisher owned too. Ripping off their talent is NOT a new thing in music.