@@theslacker29ify I have a Husqvarna 701 and there is a switch for rain (low torque) normal and advanced. After a year and a half (because I forgot about it) I switched it to advanced, wow the torque of it! It was a whole new bike too. I think we learn to appreciate it more suffering thru factory tunes for a while.
That's awesome, when I had my mk6 R the amount of power i got out of the stage 2+ tune was crazy. Going from what VW advertised as 256hp to 365hp was mind blowing, even on that i had to replace my clutch. I loved that car and miss it every day, I'm still POed about being rear ended and it being written off
Definitely something I’ve always wanted to see. Every channel has a different tune they preach to their audience, or just a different one they chose, but I want to know why I should get one over the other if I’m going to drop several hundred on some software.
There are car RUclipsrs out there that don't respect the work and risks involved when making a solid tune (remap) for a car and avoid that route complettly. But YOU are not like them and that's why I like your work and channel. Keep up the good work!
I recently installed an APR Stage-1 '93 high torque' and a TCU tune on my MK7 GTI Sport. Holy crap. My bone stock MK7 was not far behind my stage-1 MK6 with 260 hp and 320 lbs./ft. Bone stock, the MK7's IS20 turbo and fuel pump flows much better on the top end than a stage 1 MK6 with a K03 turbo. An APR stage-1 MK7 is EXTREMELY impressive and I have no reason to doubt their claim of 321 hp and 352 lbs./ft of torque. Acceleration on the HWY is comparable to a BMW M340i or Mercedes A45 AMG. I've also noticed my oil temps are cooler, averaging 205-208F compared to 215-220F stock.
Pretty much expected numbers, considering the increased efficiency of the newer turbos @+/-17% That's an incredible push w/o having to do much more than an IC swap. Good stuff Charles.
@@vhjioa I understand there to be 2 different manufacturers. The compressor map PR efficiency is aided by both Air flow and exhaust which benefits maximizing BSFC. So, you'll get more power at the same PSI than previous generation turbos.
@@JCTiggs1 1st it is smoother shifting in comfort mode all the way up the rev range, not jerky paired with the JB4, In Race or sport , it stays at that perfect rev range, I found Higher RPM for launch control In the gauge cluster, it shows what gear your are in automatic mode ie:D1 or S1
I like what you mentioned about the "drivability" staying the same. I went stage 2, with the exception of the downpipe(not sure what they'll do to my warranty so we're not chancing it)😅. However, I do feel the same... The drivability has stayed the same which is a very big plus. So far: -Non resonated race exhaust (miltek) -Apr intercooler (charge pipes pending, kept OEM pipes) Eventuri Carbon-fiber Intake
It's crazy how much horsepower is left on the table by manufacturers. I got a tune on the 2010 A6 I was whippin for a while and not only did I get about 50 whp increase, I also got better fuel economy. 🤯
Great numbers!! Been very curious as I’m beta testing the Racingline stage 1, and as I’m sure you know they’re sister companies. Nice to know it’s in the 370 range I guessed 380 wheel! Best I’ve gotten so far is 12.03 @ 116 (dsg *beta* tuned as well)
Also running a much wider tire which, depending on the wheel weight, may actually be making a little less than it would on stock wheel/tire setups. That's damn impressive. I am waiting on the APR+ for my MK8R. As always, appreciate the content!!
Thanks for another great vid Charles! Do you have a list of all the suspension mods you’ve done so far? Any plans to do vids on them and share your thoughts?
Awesome. As others have said I’d be interested to see how different stage 1 tunes compare. It’s the sweet spot for those of us who want the stock-like driving experience but a little more oomph One other thing.. any way you could appeal to your buddies at VW to help us get code away the hill-start assist? It’s atrocious…
Reliability is comprised of Air/Fuel Mixture to avoid "knock" and torque management. Stage 1 tunes are just as reliable as from the factory. "Reliability" really stems from the operating/maintenance behaviors of the drivers themselves.
034Motorsport has been tuning for over 15 years and has a combined 100+ years of experience across our world-class calibrators. We developed our tuning to deliver the best experience in terms of smooth drivability, perfect function, reliability, and added functions and features even beyond what the factory programming can provide. All 034 files are calibrated to not only retain factory safety parameters, but allow for even more safety control to ensure the car is running healthily and smoothly. Above all else, we put reliability and drivability first.
@034motorsport Do you guys recommend changing the spark plugs every 10k miles after stage 1 tune and do you guys recommend a gab colder than stock for the Mk7 2020 GLI?
No to the channel. But I love you content! That's crazy torque dude! Considering that I gave about 410 in my only software tunes BMW 2.0D...an old E87. As soon as I have saved up for some more parts. The the goal is north of 300 🐎 at the wheels and a out 530-560 in torque. That in a car with about 3200 lbs ready to drive. All fun with the rears. 🎉
Charles, can you do a video on what you'd recommend for a battery maintainer. Would like to get a good one and I'm sure you'd have a good recommendation.
..I use the DelTran "Battery Tender", and have for the last 10 years. It is decently small and does everything I need it to. Has red/green led light to tell you what it is doing and comes with a few connection options. There is a "junior" version also. There are other good ones too, but I like the BT unit. C-tek also comes to mind as a good one.
Man, the Gen4 EA888 is a beast compared to my Mk6 Gen1 (GTI not R, and ya I know the R has a larger turbo as well). With an IE Stage 1 I made 237/276 at the wheels (on a 100 degree day), and it's still pretty entertaining.
Great content as usual thanks for taking us on your Golf R journey. Hoping you can give me your thoughts on clutch longevity on a Mk7.5 manual with a stage 1 APR tune. I'm very stoked to do it, but would rather not have to replace my clutch at 30k miles. Keep up the awesome work!
Got a 2016 Seat Leon Cupra 290 Stage 1+ tuned by BSR (APR equivalent in Sweden) with a measured output of 350 HP and 430 Nm torque according to DIN Norm. Been tuned since 2018. I've driven it twice on the track last summer and I like to do motorway pulls every now and again. It is also my daily driver in varied traffic with almost 70k miles. NO clutch issues or any wear indication what so ever.
You will be completely fine if you know how to drive. I'm stage 2 with 170,00km stock clutch, and only now does it slip in low rpm in 6th when the clutch is warm (driving for 1+hrs and pushing the car)
@vhjioa that's great I'm also fine. It's funny how so many "experts" in this community will say "you will need a clutch with stage 1" - or, (once you tune your car the clutch will be gone"
@Jonny R1 really depends what you want out of the car. More you want to feel the tq/pull the more your clutch could slip. Why have the power to always have the thought in your head. Imo best clutch is Sachs SRE. Upgraded disc and pressure plate, reuses an oem flywheel for oem drivability and cost effectiveness. Then you can dump the clutch on occasion and floor it in lower rpms. 1000% worth it. I think I paid 600+500 install. Never slipped and sold the car 35k miles later. Jb4 made my mk7.5 slip. Same clutch rating since mk5. Sad.
Hey. Like the vid and tune mod. I run a jb4 on a mk7 and I fitted it after about 8 months. I didn't really notice much h in way of decreased driveability. Maybe slightly Jerky throttle response at light throttle occasionally. What was so bad with the mk8 jb4?
The question im left with after seeing this video, is how does the GTI hold up with just a tune? Theoretically, you should be able to get even more of a power boost from just software, on the GTI. They use the same engine now, dont they?
Alright. I'll be honest. I see the title, I click on the video and get the answer in the first 5 seconds of the video. Now THAT is something you don't see nowadays around. Needless to say, I stuck around until the end of the video because I didn't feel baited into watching the rest, I did it out of pleasure. Subbed & thanks for the video.
If you decide to tune your Mark 8 Golf R can you keep both Tunes in the car, one for 91 octane and one for 93 octane and switch back and forth, just in case you're travelling and you can't find a 93 station?
My personal best was about 60whp on an E85 tuned Cobalt SS turbo with all bolt-ons. My Mercedes picked up around 30whp from an intake, exhaust, and tune. But it's tuned for 93 rather than E85. If I could find the right injectors and such for the E85 setup, I could probably make another 20-30hp. The stage 2 AMR kit promises 300whp with a catless downpipe on 93, but I don't want that raspy sound.
@@BasedEMT1776 the twinskies will do that. Us single sneezers don't get that lucky. But still, 100whp is crazy. I remember in the 90, you were lucky to grab 10-15hp from a tune. But the turbos weren't very efficient in those days.
Have you guys worked on 5.7 hemis? How much hp and torque gain? My 2006 chrysler 300c is said to have stock 340hp and 390 torque. I have a pedal response and my resonators plus mufflers removed. But necessarily what gains have you seen with the 5.7 hemi similar to mine before and are these tunes worth it as well what Is the typical price to tune one? I been debating on adding a cam to my car but if a tune can add more for less I will go down that route instead
May I ask why 034 over unitronic? Personally went uni but debated switching for the e file. Got a clutch first cause obvious reasons but was curious on the reasoning
@@ependergrass I want to switch to 034 strictly for the e file but waiting on my upgraded clutch first. Was just curious if it’s cause the sema sponsorship or not
1 month ago bout 1.6TDI PASSAT VW 2014 and just picked up after the replacement of clutch and soon as picked up eletrical problem with turbo......crying
Wish there was some discussion on what goes into the tune that produces such magic using only software. So what clutch upgrade do you have your eye on? And when can we expect the nitrous upgrade? 😁
...isn't it obvious...? It's magic, of course. Magic in; magic out. Oh, and advanced knowledge and skills in afr, timing, o2 metering, load stress, turbo graphs, and a few more bits, plus magic and you're there.
oh it is not magic, you can watch some video of which maps they adjust, or you can install some ECU software and compare oem to modified software to see the changes. But mostly they change torque limiter, boost, timing, injection quantity... new VW actualy allready has a bit modifed software that is activated when you press gas peddal all the way. If I am not misstake engine is capable of exceeding oem HP rattings by up to 10% for a short period of time
@@borutgoli840 ...sarcasm meter batteries must be low. The OP referenced "some magic", and I was just reiterating the fact that it magic is involved along with other factors. Yes, a lot can be done with software tuning and parameter tweeking, such as the (10 second) "overboost" function you mention. However...if one were to get it wrong, IRT the software, maps, metering, etc. bad things will happen...therefore, I still believe that there is at least "some magic" that goes into the whole process....maybe not as much that goes into my Lucky Charms, but the tuning folks do process some of the sparkly glitter powder stuff 🌈🍀
Great video! Making my mouth water for when my Tiguan R arrives,, yes, I said it,, Tiguan, don't hate me!. What wheels have you got there? What is the weight of them and roughly what weight should I be aiming for for my Mk7 gti for a good performance gain? , I currently still have the 18" stock rims.
I have the most basic piggy backs on my 911(3 plug) and Veloster N (2 plug) ( not JB4 ) Both cars drive amazing never had any kind of drivability issues. I didn't want to go with a ECU tune because of warranty issues. I went with the easiest to install so I can remove them easily if I need to take the car to the stealership for something.
Hopefully you’re upgrading that N engine. I can assure you 2 things. 1. The warranty will 100% be voided. 2. If it’s the turbo model that engine won’t be able to handle much. This is coming from someone who “doesn’t” work at a Hyundai dealership and “isn’t” a tech for them.
Also those 2.0T engines are fun and all but we have a STACK of RO’s of cars with the 2.0T engine that need to be replaced. We had one that came in with barely over 2K miles and there was deep deep scoring on the cylinder walls I’m talking vertical/horizontal scoring I’ve never seen that before on cylinder walls. But definitely smart to have a easy tune to where you can take it out before taking it to the dealership. I’ve seen guys bring their cars in and just have left their COBB shit in the in car.
@@thatoneguythatwasntlikewow5167 The whole point of me buying this car was to see how bad or good a modern Hyundai really is. I never buy the same car twice so I want to try every brand I can. Im used to Porsche prices where everything is $10-$20k so I can handle any unexpected expense. Modded since day one now at 12K mikes and its been super fun and no issues to report.
@@HumbleMechanic Original owner of my R was friends with a UM Tuner in PA. They used my old R to make some of the base maps. It also had a 1 of 1 APR RSC Exhaust that was the demo from Corsa Exhaust in Berea Ohio. Was a sick car. I really regret selling it.
Whatever dealer did the work to your mk7.5 and it’s TD1 status and they did warranty for drivetrain related component that warranty claim will be kicked back to them and voided, I work at a dealer and we have to be super careful with cars with TD1 status. As soon as I run the check warranty information test on address 1 the engine control module and it shows up TD1 I write that in my story instantly so I can’t be to blame if someone tries claiming warranty on something.
When putting my MK8 on the dyno, in "dyno mode" the transmission won't go past 1st gear no matter what (DSG), is there something else that needs to be done to make the trans play with the dyno mode?
@@psnmadracer27 HGP from Germany did 444HP/564nm in early 2021 and stage 2 in 12/2021 with 526hp/630nm. They also have stage 1 for etronGT & Taycan turbo s 850ho/1050nm. idk how they are this much ealier than others. there stage1 mk8 R released 1year earlier than all other tuning companies in EU...
@@dutchone7699 It then gets a lot more complicated trying to equate US dyno runs with Euro ones. I'd wait until 034 maps are available in Europe and mapped for 99 Ron fuel to see if they are any different. to the JD output
I've heard since the mk7 gti's/r's the stock (manual)clutch basically acts like a fuse and is all but guaranteed to blow if you're running a stage 1 tune, let alone stage 2
I thought the same thing, I’m from the UK also. Mine should be around 305 bhp stock, why was his so low to begin with?? I’m getting mine mapped tomorrow and it should make around 370 bhp 470nm of torque!
I highly recommend the Stage 3 (Southbend) clutch with an APR Stage 2 because it gives you a comfortable margin of error and a lot of piece of mind. The only disadvantage is that the Stage 3 clutch is pretty heavy until it's broken in.
I want to tune my manual 24 Golf R. Is your OEM clutch still functional and which tune would you suggest(91 Stage 1) without pops and bangs. Thank you.
@@redrosevisuals I had a mk6R tuned by UnitedMotorsports. My friend still has his R tuned by APR. Drove his, he drove mine, said he could feel the difference between the cars, mostly because my peak boost psi was higher as UM gives you the ability to change it yourself and I had the ProFlex Flex Fuel kit
@@TechX1320 I hear ya! Good to know! Honestly Charles is right, out of the box these things are fun especially in manual (which I’m super grateful for) also throw on some sway bars and it’s a blast. Only reason I got the dang thing as opposed to older gen. That new awd system/rear diff. is very smart. I’m impressed with what uni put out ‘stage1+’ . Very capable little rocket
Cars are released with a lot more potential, but downtuned so each year the next model will be more powerful with little to no effort. It’s nice to unlock the extra power instead of waiting for the car manufacturer to do it
a little birdie told me you are running a stage 1 high torque tune on your manual Golf R. Any issues with the clutch? I'm using the APR Stage I low torque tune 93. Crank numbers are 404 hp, 357 tq. The high torque file would take me to 405 hp, 398 tq. To the wheels it would be about 375, 375. Just curious how your stock clutch is holding up.
If it's the same as with previous generations you can set the car to dyno mode which switches off the rear drive entirely. I assume that's what's happening here.
Anything 4 cyl turbo charged responds crazy to boost and ignition...its all about can the pistons/rings/rods take it...looking at YOU Subaru...damn ringland-palooza
So when you say, "You need a new clutch", are you actually saying you are GOING TO need a new clutch (at some point in the future) or are you saying you need a more robust clutch immediately (and, if so, what do you recommend)?
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3 things I love - cartoons, car tunes, and listening to tunes in my car.
The “tune” trifecta. 😂. I flashed the ECU and DSG in my ‘14 Golf TDI the other day.. 😃😎. Whole new car… LOL
@@theslacker29ify I have a Husqvarna 701 and there is a switch for rain (low torque) normal and advanced. After a year and a half (because I forgot about it) I switched it to advanced, wow the torque of it! It was a whole new bike too.
I think we learn to appreciate it more suffering thru factory tunes for a while.
@@JeffCdeBaca yes we do! I love some torque. Lol 😂
Same bruh lmao
As a kid I used to watch car shows on the weekend like Power Block and Power Nation. These videos have a lot of that feel
That's awesome, when I had my mk6 R the amount of power i got out of the stage 2+ tune was crazy. Going from what VW advertised as 256hp to 365hp was mind blowing, even on that i had to replace my clutch.
I loved that car and miss it every day, I'm still POed about being rear ended and it being written off
Man sorry to hear I just bought a mk6r I couldn’t even imagine
Nice gains...Thanks for putting your 8R on the line for us all. Respect
got a custom tune from my a Unitronic dealer, on my DSG and its amazing! car really comes alive, cant wait to get the summer tires back on.
Completely agree. Have the Unitronic tune on our '17 TSi. Total awakens the car 😁
Oh man, I really wanna do the Unitronic stage 1+ on my Mk7.5 R now!
What does the custom tune do?
@@jstoli996c4s added 70+HP and 90+ft/lb. The car struggles for traction (so be aware) but is still very efficient on the highway.
You should definitely flash all the various stage 1 tunes and compare. EQT, Cobb, APR, Unitronic, IE, Sneeky, etc.
Definitely something I’ve always wanted to see. Every channel has a different tune they preach to their audience, or just a different one they chose, but I want to know why I should get one over the other if I’m going to drop several hundred on some software.
That would be expensive lol
I could see this working if there was a community group gathering dyno day with various tune companies with similar hardware mods...
That's an insane tune on a stock motor. Never mind the clutch, I think you might be needing tyres a bit more frequently too!
Love the mk8 content bro ! Please keep making mk8 content
There are car RUclipsrs out there that don't respect the work and risks involved when making a solid tune (remap) for a car and avoid that route complettly. But YOU are not like them and that's why I like your work and channel. Keep up the good work!
The Unitronic Stage 1+ tune is nuts. Only requires an Intercooler and its over 400hp.
I recently installed an APR Stage-1 '93 high torque' and a TCU tune on my MK7 GTI Sport. Holy crap. My bone stock MK7 was not far behind my stage-1 MK6 with 260 hp and 320 lbs./ft. Bone stock, the MK7's IS20 turbo and fuel pump flows much better on the top end than a stage 1 MK6 with a K03 turbo. An APR stage-1 MK7 is EXTREMELY impressive and I have no reason to doubt their claim of 321 hp and 352 lbs./ft of torque. Acceleration on the HWY is comparable to a BMW M340i or Mercedes A45 AMG. I've also noticed my oil temps are cooler, averaging 205-208F compared to 215-220F stock.
Pretty much expected numbers, considering the increased efficiency of the newer turbos @+/-17% That's an incredible push w/o having to do much more than an IC swap. Good stuff Charles.
Are the new turbos continental? Are they bigger? How are they more efficient? Curious about this.
@@vhjioa I understand there to be 2 different manufacturers. The compressor map PR efficiency is aided by both Air flow and exhaust which benefits maximizing BSFC. So, you'll get more power at the same PSI than previous generation turbos.
I agree, Stage1 91 flash over the JB4 was night and day. With a DSG , add the TCU tune, the drive ability is so much better.
Could you describe the changes the TCU tune did for the DSG?
@@JCTiggs1 1st it is smoother shifting in comfort mode all the way up the rev range, not jerky paired with the JB4,
In Race or sport , it stays at that perfect rev range, I found
Higher RPM for launch control
In the gauge cluster, it shows what gear your are in automatic mode ie:D1 or S1
I like what you mentioned about the "drivability" staying the same. I went stage 2, with the exception of the downpipe(not sure what they'll do to my warranty so we're not chancing it)😅. However, I do feel the same... The drivability has stayed the same which is a very big plus.
So far:
-Non resonated race exhaust (miltek)
-Apr intercooler (charge pipes pending, kept OEM pipes)
Eventuri Carbon-fiber Intake
Just get a downpipe, the dealership can already tell you have a tune
Big numbers Charles, and it’s drivable 👍
Nice and smooth
It's crazy how much horsepower is left on the table by manufacturers. I got a tune on the 2010 A6 I was whippin for a while and not only did I get about 50 whp increase, I also got better fuel economy. 🤯
Yassssss been waiting for this!!!!
Great numbers!! Been very curious as I’m beta testing the Racingline stage 1, and as I’m sure you know they’re sister companies. Nice to know it’s in the 370 range I guessed 380 wheel! Best I’ve gotten so far is 12.03 @ 116 (dsg *beta* tuned as well)
Also running a much wider tire which, depending on the wheel weight, may actually be making a little less than it would on stock wheel/tire setups. That's damn impressive. I am waiting on the APR+ for my MK8R. As always, appreciate the content!!
Great to see software out for the MK8 R.
The R is 4wheel drive! How it can turn only at the front wheels on the speed bank?
Great video. Super solid gains for stage 1.
Thoughts and prayers for your clutch! I'm dying lol.
Would be interesting to see what 034 could provide you with a protune for your specific Mk8 and how much a maxed out tune would produce over an OTS.
😂😂 your reaction was exactly me and the mad scientist reaction last week after we tuned mine. We have her doing 461hp @ 376ft. I literally melted🫠🫠
Mods?
Jesus that's impressive mk8 r gnna be a beast
So all we need to know in 5 seconds, good video
Hahah I’m sure it will lead to poor watch time. But hopefully everyone sticks around
Great video... love 034, however after going to EQT Tunes i don't think i'll ever go back. MK7 R gains with EQT are wild.
Javad and Nate at 034 ftw. Fun guys who know their stuff. Awesome episode!
Thanks for the support!
@@034motorsport... Patiently waiting for 034 to enter the Subaru market. Street series bushings/mounts and (turbo) engine tuning; that's all I need.
@@K03sport Unfortunately, that entry is unlikely
Awesome stuff Charles. Phew, just made my 11 minute cutoff threshold. Thing is a monster. Subaru could learn a thing or two from VW.
Thanks for another great vid Charles! Do you have a list of all the suspension mods you’ve done so far? Any plans to do vids on them and share your thoughts?
Awesome. As others have said I’d be interested to see how different stage 1 tunes compare. It’s the sweet spot for those of us who want the stock-like driving experience but a little more oomph
One other thing.. any way you could appeal to your buddies at VW to help us get code away the hill-start assist? It’s atrocious…
Incredible!!! Awesome!!! 👍👍👍
Man I love the GOLF R 😍🤤 can’t wait to get my hands on one!
They are so much fun 🤣
Every time a car puts a smile on your face, it is a good car
my question about these tunes is how much do they hurt reliability? is there like a safe % rule of thumb to stick to?
Yes go with the proven tuner and tune making company.
Reliability is comprised of Air/Fuel Mixture to avoid "knock" and torque management. Stage 1 tunes are just as reliable as from the factory. "Reliability" really stems from the operating/maintenance behaviors of the drivers themselves.
034Motorsport has been tuning for over 15 years and has a combined 100+ years of experience across our world-class calibrators. We developed our tuning to deliver the best experience in terms of smooth drivability, perfect function, reliability, and added functions and features even beyond what the factory programming can provide.
All 034 files are calibrated to not only retain factory safety parameters, but allow for even more safety control to ensure the car is running healthily and smoothly. Above all else, we put reliability and drivability first.
Never, ever go below the recommended octane and you should be a-ok.
@034motorsport Do you guys recommend changing the spark plugs every 10k miles after stage 1 tune and do you guys recommend a gab colder than stock for the Mk7 2020 GLI?
If I had 3 wishes. this mechanic 👨🔧 would be one of them lol 😆
No to the channel. But I love you content!
That's crazy torque dude!
Considering that I gave about 410 in my only software tunes BMW 2.0D...an old E87.
As soon as I have saved up for some more parts. The the goal is north of 300 🐎 at the wheels and a out 530-560 in torque. That in a car with about 3200 lbs ready to drive. All fun with the rears. 🎉
Charles, can you do a video on what you'd recommend for a battery maintainer. Would like to get a good one and I'm sure you'd have a good recommendation.
..I use the DelTran "Battery Tender", and have for the last 10 years. It is decently small and does everything I need it to. Has red/green led light to tell you what it is doing and comes with a few connection options. There is a "junior" version also. There are other good ones too, but I like the BT unit. C-tek also comes to mind as a good one.
Pretty awesome bro. ❤
another excellent video. love your honesty. would you prefer the mk8 over the 7.5 as a daily thst will do 2-4 track events a year?
I would! The mk8 is so awesome. If my 7.5 was not a special color I’d have sold it
Man, the Gen4 EA888 is a beast compared to my Mk6 Gen1 (GTI not R, and ya I know the R has a larger turbo as well). With an IE Stage 1 I made 237/276 at the wheels (on a 100 degree day), and it's still pretty entertaining.
I had a MK6 with a K04 and supporting mods. Super fun car.
@@430LA I'm still on the stock K03... still fun. Definitely needs a limited slip before it needs any more power.
I love how every time he goes to the dyno he always mentions the Jetta 😂
Great content as usual thanks for taking us on your Golf R journey. Hoping you can give me your thoughts on clutch longevity on a Mk7.5 manual with a stage 1 APR tune. I'm very stoked to do it, but would rather not have to replace my clutch at 30k miles. Keep up the awesome work!
Got a 2016 Seat Leon Cupra 290 Stage 1+ tuned by BSR (APR equivalent in Sweden) with a measured output of 350 HP and 430 Nm torque according to DIN Norm. Been tuned since 2018. I've driven it twice on the track last summer and I like to do motorway pulls every now and again. It is also my daily driver in varied traffic with almost 70k miles. NO clutch issues or any wear indication what so ever.
You will be completely fine if you know how to drive. I'm stage 2 with 170,00km stock clutch, and only now does it slip in low rpm in 6th when the clutch is warm (driving for 1+hrs and pushing the car)
@vhjioa that's great I'm also fine. It's funny how so many "experts" in this community will say "you will need a clutch with stage 1" - or, (once you tune your car the clutch will be gone"
@Jonny R1 really depends what you want out of the car. More you want to feel the tq/pull the more your clutch could slip. Why have the power to always have the thought in your head. Imo best clutch is Sachs SRE. Upgraded disc and pressure plate, reuses an oem flywheel for oem drivability and cost effectiveness. Then you can dump the clutch on occasion and floor it in lower rpms. 1000% worth it. I think I paid 600+500 install. Never slipped and sold the car 35k miles later. Jb4 made my mk7.5 slip. Same clutch rating since mk5. Sad.
Hey. Like the vid and tune mod. I run a jb4 on a mk7 and I fitted it after about 8 months. I didn't really notice much h in way of decreased driveability. Maybe slightly Jerky throttle response at light throttle occasionally. What was so bad with the mk8 jb4?
The question im left with after seeing this video, is how does the GTI hold up with just a tune? Theoretically, you should be able to get even more of a power boost from just software, on the GTI. They use the same engine now, dont they?
Alright. I'll be honest. I see the title, I click on the video and get the answer in the first 5 seconds of the video.
Now THAT is something you don't see nowadays around.
Needless to say, I stuck around until the end of the video because I didn't feel baited into watching the rest, I did it out of pleasure.
Subbed & thanks for the video.
Thank you!!! LOL I felt like it was a gamble for sure. HAHAHA
2:00 the right mirror blinker just died 😂
If you decide to tune your Mark 8 Golf R can you keep both Tunes in the car, one for 91 octane and one for 93 octane and switch back and forth, just in case you're travelling and you can't find a 93 station?
In the UK these things are seeing 400hp on stage 1 software tune. We are running 99 octane fuel here though. Im guessing its all in the fuel quality
My personal best was about 60whp on an E85 tuned Cobalt SS turbo with all bolt-ons. My Mercedes picked up around 30whp from an intake, exhaust, and tune. But it's tuned for 93 rather than E85. If I could find the right injectors and such for the E85 setup, I could probably make another 20-30hp. The stage 2 AMR kit promises 300whp with a catless downpipe on 93, but I don't want that raspy sound.
My Ford Edge 2.7L Twin turbo picked up almost 100whp with just a tune.
@@BasedEMT1776 the twinskies will do that. Us single sneezers don't get that lucky. But still, 100whp is crazy. I remember in the 90, you were lucky to grab 10-15hp from a tune. But the turbos weren't very efficient in those days.
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We all do.
Asking the salient questions.
Have you guys worked on 5.7 hemis? How much hp and torque gain? My 2006 chrysler 300c is said to have stock 340hp and 390 torque. I have a pedal response and my resonators plus mufflers removed. But necessarily what gains have you seen with the 5.7 hemi similar to mine before and are these tunes worth it as well what Is the typical price to tune one? I been debating on adding a cam to my car but if a tune can add more for less I will go down that route instead
"I need to be careful" said the same thing when I went e on my mk7 😂
May I ask why 034 over unitronic? Personally went uni but debated switching for the e file. Got a clutch first cause obvious reasons but was curious on the reasoning
I mean, competition is good for the market and probably had a sponsorship opportunity for 034! Nothing wrong with that IMO
@@ependergrass I want to switch to 034 strictly for the e file but waiting on my upgraded clutch first. Was just curious if it’s cause the sema sponsorship or not
A year later I'm looking more closely at boost/torque by gear.. I need it all in 2nd gear or the tune won't help me at all at autocross 🤣
Why is this a big surprise? Seemed to work on the TDI.
1 month ago bout 1.6TDI PASSAT VW 2014 and just picked up after the replacement of clutch and soon as picked up eletrical problem with turbo......crying
Wish there was some discussion on what goes into the tune that produces such magic using only software. So what clutch upgrade do you have your eye on? And when can we expect the nitrous upgrade? 😁
Haha hold on to that last thought.
And sadly most companies won’t share the goods :(
...isn't it obvious...? It's magic, of course. Magic in; magic out. Oh, and advanced knowledge and skills in afr, timing, o2 metering, load stress, turbo graphs, and a few more bits, plus magic and you're there.
oh it is not magic, you can watch some video of which maps they adjust, or you can install some ECU software and compare oem to modified software to see the changes. But mostly they change torque limiter, boost, timing, injection quantity...
new VW actualy allready has a bit modifed software that is activated when you press gas peddal all the way. If I am not misstake engine is capable of exceeding oem HP rattings by up to 10% for a short period of time
@@borutgoli840 ...sarcasm meter batteries must be low. The OP referenced "some magic", and I was just reiterating the fact that it magic is involved along with other factors. Yes, a lot can be done with software tuning and parameter tweeking, such as the (10 second) "overboost" function you mention. However...if one were to get it wrong, IRT the software, maps, metering, etc. bad things will happen...therefore, I still believe that there is at least "some magic" that goes into the whole process....maybe not as much that goes into my Lucky Charms, but the tuning folks do process some of the sparkly glitter powder stuff 🌈🍀
Awesome!
Great video! Making my mouth water for when my Tiguan R arrives,, yes, I said it,, Tiguan, don't hate me!.
What wheels have you got there? What is the weight of them and roughly what weight should I be aiming for for my Mk7 gti for a good performance gain? , I currently still have the 18" stock rims.
I have the most basic piggy backs on my 911(3 plug) and Veloster N (2 plug) ( not JB4 ) Both cars drive amazing never had any kind of drivability issues. I didn't want to go with a ECU tune because of warranty issues. I went with the easiest to install so I can remove them easily if I need to take the car to the stealership for something.
Hopefully you’re upgrading that N engine. I can assure you 2 things. 1. The warranty will 100% be voided. 2. If it’s the turbo model that engine won’t be able to handle much. This is coming from someone who “doesn’t” work at a Hyundai dealership and “isn’t” a tech for them.
Also those 2.0T engines are fun and all but we have a STACK of RO’s of cars with the 2.0T engine that need to be replaced. We had one that came in with barely over 2K miles and there was deep deep scoring on the cylinder walls I’m talking vertical/horizontal scoring I’ve never seen that before on cylinder walls. But definitely smart to have a easy tune to where you can take it out before taking it to the dealership. I’ve seen guys bring their cars in and just have left their COBB shit in the in car.
@@thatoneguythatwasntlikewow5167 The whole point of me buying this car was to see how bad or good a modern Hyundai really is. I never buy the same car twice so I want to try every brand I can. Im used to Porsche prices where everything is $10-$20k so I can handle any unexpected expense. Modded since day one now at 12K mikes and its been super fun and no issues to report.
@@norevlimitr1602 I’m definitely interested in how long it holds. Maybe tuning it corrects their fuck up lmao
@@thatoneguythatwasntlikewow5167 I put a reminder in my phone to update this on 1/31/2028 will be 5 years after I bought the car.
Can't wait until UnitedMotorsport gets to tuning these. UM tuned my 2012 R, and it felt like no other R I ever drove.
I love UM software. It’s just hard to work with them on somethings
@@HumbleMechanic Original owner of my R was friends with a UM Tuner in PA. They used my old R to make some of the base maps. It also had a 1 of 1 APR RSC Exhaust that was the demo from Corsa Exhaust in Berea Ohio. Was a sick car. I really regret selling it.
Whatever dealer did the work to your mk7.5 and it’s TD1 status and they did warranty for drivetrain related component that warranty claim will be kicked back to them and voided, I work at a dealer and we have to be super careful with cars with TD1 status. As soon as I run the check warranty information test on address 1 the engine control module and it shows up TD1 I write that in my story instantly so I can’t be to blame if someone tries claiming warranty on something.
Yo, this just showed up in my feed. I have not in the slightest clue the first thing about tuning a car. But I was thinking about getting a type R
Thanks for the video. Can you elaborate on how the clutch held up or not. Maybe a longer term update after a few weeks of spirited driving
maybe i missed it.. did you upgrade the clutch? i keep hearing about crank walk on the R's... has me worried
When putting my MK8 on the dyno, in "dyno mode" the transmission won't go past 1st gear no matter what (DSG), is there something else that needs to be done to make the trans play with the dyno mode?
Charles you should check jdengineering in the netherlands. They just went crazy with the 8 r and got about 410 hp and 520 nm with just a stage 1 map
a video showed up in my recommended a few weeks ago of a guy in the UK chasing 500bhp on stock turbo with his 8R
is that BHP or WHP?
@@psnmadracer27 HGP from Germany did 444HP/564nm in early 2021 and stage 2 in 12/2021 with 526hp/630nm. They also have stage 1 for etronGT & Taycan turbo s 850ho/1050nm. idk how they are this much ealier than others. there stage1 mk8 R released 1year earlier than all other tuning companies in EU...
@@nickbea3443i thought it was just bhp
@@dutchone7699 It then gets a lot more complicated trying to equate US dyno runs with Euro ones. I'd wait until 034 maps are available in Europe and mapped for 99 Ron fuel to see if they are any different.
to the JD output
Would have liked to see how the spark plugs looked before and after w stage 2..
maybe we will check when we do bolt ons.
I've heard since the mk7 gti's/r's the stock (manual)clutch basically acts like a fuse and is all but guaranteed to blow if you're running a stage 1 tune, let alone stage 2
What was the fuel mileage diff with the 034 tune? And what springs are on the Mk8?
Great video as always 👍 if I end up buying a mk8 golf R it’s all your fault 😂
Spicy 🔥
Very cool! wondering if this tune would apply to the 22 Arteon (aside from DSG tune)?
Charles, is our 99 octane in UK equivalent to 93 the US?
Why did the 7.5 not make over 300 stock, was that wheel horsepower?
Cheers buddy
I thought the same thing, I’m from the UK also. Mine should be around 305 bhp stock, why was his so low to begin with?? I’m getting mine mapped tomorrow and it should make around 370 bhp 470nm of torque!
Time for a Stage 2 Clutch and Stage 2 tune. 👌
I highly recommend the Stage 3 (Southbend) clutch with an APR Stage 2 because it gives you a comfortable margin of error and a lot of piece of mind. The only disadvantage is that the Stage 3 clutch is pretty heavy until it's broken in.
Can you show more GTI content? I want to tune my mk8 but want to know if I can put the tune you did for the R on my GTI?
Different file but exact same process
How is the clutch doing? Is there a clutch that can withstand that TQ and still have a dual mass flywheel?
I want to tune my manual 24 Golf R. Is your OEM clutch still functional and which
tune would you suggest(91 Stage 1) without pops and bangs. Thank you.
have you considered performance by integrated engineering? I have heard great things about their stage 1 software…
His yellow car had the stage 2 from them. You can see the parts in his video.
Brilliant! " thoughts ls and prayers with your clutch " that made me laugh
For real. I had a JB4 on my MK7 R and that alone was enough to fry the clutch.... and they use the same clutch in the MK8 :/
That car looks sick
are you going to try unitronic tune as well?
Yep
Excited to see all these tunes coming out 😊
How is the rear diff. With the added oompf?
Probably gonna wait for apr and the warmer weather lol
apr is boring and conservative on all their tunes. A stage 1 tune from APR might as well be considered Stage 0 from everyone else.
@@TechX1320 yeah I feel that I’ll probably end up going with uni. Do you own a mk8 ?
@@redrosevisuals I had a mk6R tuned by UnitedMotorsports. My friend still has his R tuned by APR. Drove his, he drove mine, said he could feel the difference between the cars, mostly because my peak boost psi was higher as UM gives you the ability to change it yourself and I had the ProFlex Flex Fuel kit
@@TechX1320 I hear ya! Good to know! Honestly Charles is right, out of the box these things are fun especially in manual (which I’m super grateful for) also throw on some sway bars and it’s a blast. Only reason I got the dang thing as opposed to older gen. That new awd system/rear diff. is very smart.
I’m impressed with what uni put out ‘stage1+’ . Very capable little rocket
@@TechX1320 but I’ll wait for United Motorsport me thinks for the control and other goodies they do
470 HP 580 nm on stage 2 on 102 octane here in Netherlands
Cars are released with a lot more potential, but downtuned so each year the next model will be more powerful with little to no effort. It’s nice to unlock the extra power instead of waiting for the car manufacturer to do it
Great vid thanks. Dumb question, how does one dyno a Haldex equipped awd car on just the front? Has this car had a fwd conversion or something?
It’s got a “dyno mode” that cuts the rear wheels for this exact thing
a little birdie told me you are running a stage 1 high torque tune on your manual Golf R. Any issues with the clutch? I'm using the APR Stage I low torque tune 93. Crank numbers are 404 hp, 357 tq. The high torque file would take me to 405 hp, 398 tq. To the wheels it would be about 375, 375. Just curious how your stock clutch is holding up.
Yep no clutch issues yet!!! It’s been about a year
I am eagerly awaiting a tune for an 8Y RS3, in the UK we are seeing MK8 DSG Golf R with TCU software getting 400 BHP.
I thought these were just AWD? Is it offered in FWD in the US?
If it's the same as with previous generations you can set the car to dyno mode which switches off the rear drive entirely. I assume that's what's happening here.
@@dacmm Ah sweet, had no idea
I want those wheels so bad!!
How has the stock clutch held up to the tune so far? Or have you already replaced the transmission?
Stock clutch going just fine!!!
could it be done on a 2018 Golf SportWagen? Been fun to crank the power on my wife's SportWagen up to my Volvo XC70 T6 Polestar tune wagon
Anything 4 cyl turbo charged responds crazy to boost and ignition...its all about can the pistons/rings/rods take it...looking at YOU Subaru...damn ringland-palooza
So when you say, "You need a new clutch", are you actually saying you are GOING TO need a new clutch (at some point in the future) or are you saying you need a more robust clutch immediately (and, if so, what do you recommend)?
how come rear wheel doesn’t spin? Isn’t it all wheel drive ?
When 034 tunes the motor, do they tune the DSG with it? I’m a newbie to Golf Rs but been looking to possibly buy one.
Great video!!!
Not this generation
How strong is the Mk8 engine. How much power can be pushed before changing internals??
I have a mk8 manual as well. What clutch would you recommend for stage 2 or 3? Is the oem clutch that bad?
I hear unitronic has a great setup
Damn it’s destuned in the USA? Could also be down to the lower fuel quality in the USA
358lb/ft or 368lb/ft? I saw a couple different graphics.
Damn may have missed placed the graph 😖