WoW Remix Players Are ANGRY | Frog Farm, Scaling & Rewards

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  • Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
  • Mists of Pandaria Remix: Weekend madness of Frog Farming has been nerfed by Blizzard!
    However, the damage is now done, many players are now unkillable gods while other are still poor peasants, who also have to suffer with the bad scaling of the game mode while also now having much worse avenues for collecting their Bronze.
    How will Blizzard get out of this?
    00:00 I'm angry. Angry about frogs.
    02:18 What Frogs Did
    04:00 Community Reactions
    06:32 Problem #2: Scaling
    09:20 Bronze for Upgrades
    10:40 The Situation Right Now
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Комментарии • 371

  • @shesh_o
    @shesh_o Месяц назад +57

    We just want the god tier feeling they offered us and all is a lie. The frog farmers skipped at least 2 months of consistent gameplay in a weekend and they can do the higher level of content now, they can have all the collectibles because Siege Mythic throws you 50k bronze, that's already the 1.5 million you need for all. Let us catch them in 2 or 3 weeks, give us threads like maniacs, under a certain level in the cloak and completely reduce the bronze requirements for the gear upgrades. Don't touch the collectibles, just the gear to be somehow, at some similar level than these guys that didn't exploit the game, just played it like in old Pandaria.

    • @Thrall966
      @Thrall966 Месяц назад +4

      I finished the whole jade forest campaign and got 1000 bronze :(

    • @ic3t3ap3ach
      @ic3t3ap3ach Месяц назад

      not even echo can clear mythic without dying and they all have full cloaks. its not possible to do mythic as a norma person. trust me. without froggers or ward gem abuse you wont be able to clear any hc raid. maybe mogu and hof but no chance with current state to clear hc/mythic raids.
      more raid clears btw givesd you more coins. so we are all fucked.

    • @akpade
      @akpade Месяц назад +3

      @@ic3t3ap3achwtf are you on about ? If you have a full raid that maxed the shit out of the cloak you can literally one shot anything

    • @Mysterious-Fox-01
      @Mysterious-Fox-01 Месяц назад +1

      blizzars should just outright debunk these people to the firstday they dit exploit a glitch and that isent allowed

    • @NoobGamer-di1dw
      @NoobGamer-di1dw Месяц назад +1

      @@Thrall966You’re doing something wrong. I had like 10k+ before even leaving jade forest

  • @Wachi2000
    @Wachi2000 Месяц назад +131

    it has always been blizzard go to strategy to let that which has no life exploit for 48h straight then punish all the other players

    • @Jwitty
      @Jwitty Месяц назад +4

      What's the punishment? You don't get to max out your character? Boohoo. It's been out a week, you don't need to finish it already. Don't cry over people finding an exploit and taking advantage

    • @ShadowZeroFlame
      @ShadowZeroFlame Месяц назад +34

      @@Jwitty exploiter found, opinion discarded.

    • @Ivan-fu3fj
      @Ivan-fu3fj Месяц назад +5

      Blizz: Soooo you have life and couldnt play 24 hrs the first day like the tryhards? Well, sorry, but you will have to play 12 hrs x day, for 90 days, if you wanna get all the rewards...

    • @Ivan-fu3fj
      @Ivan-fu3fj Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Jwittybro that people make all and win all the reward in a day. The other people need to farm 12 hrs x day x 90 days for get that level... that is not fair at all...
      In my opinion reshit, i mean, remix was think for be overpower so why nerf frog? Let the people enjoy, and have fun.
      Not let 10% have fun and the other 90% farm all day x 3 months, without fun.

    • @texasdad2372
      @texasdad2372 Месяц назад

      @@Ivan-fu3fj You can't explain anything to the cheaters,they will cheat and exploit because they suck at the game and so they have to cheat to get the attention they crave because they have nothing else and no life. And then they'll either act like they're better than everyone else or try to justify it and try to make it seem "normal" for people to cheat in games.

  • @MattG5050
    @MattG5050 Месяц назад +29

    I was also really disappointed to create an alt and find my cloak only has a 100% XP buff after i spent all the time increasing the cloak on my main. I wanted this game mode for leveling and was under the impression my alts would get monster size bonuses

    • @mothman84
      @mothman84 Месяц назад +9

      This, too. Nobody is saying this, but it was a major disappointment for me too, logging into an alt. 100% bonus XP is awesome per se. But it's nothing compared to what we were expecting.

    • @MuttleyGames
      @MuttleyGames Месяц назад +1

      @@mothman84 You need to do the normal raid at 25 to get a 12% buff per boss kill. A guy from my guild got from 30 to 35 in a single dungeon on his 4th alt.

    • @mothman84
      @mothman84 Месяц назад +1

      @@MuttleyGames We're talking about the fact that when we already have a cloak loaded with stats none of those are transferred to alts. Alts get a flat 100% bonus XP, and everything else at zero.

    • @daniellucas5522
      @daniellucas5522 Месяц назад

      @@mothman84 This is literally just a lie why say it?
      You get 4x your normal stamina and primary, and 45% vers.

    • @MultiFreakinbeast
      @MultiFreakinbeast Месяц назад +1

      @@daniellucas5522 You're right you do start with like a smidgeon of power. Basically like you collected threads for 10 minutes. It still feels bad when your main level 70 is stacking experience gain through the roof but there's no reason to get more right?

  • @m_rod9562
    @m_rod9562 Месяц назад +41

    At this point just let people transfer their characters over to retail whenever they choose to do so. Whats the point of keeping your level 70 character locked in a game mode where you will be severely outperformed by those who exploited the frog farm.

    • @Kenji-117
      @Kenji-117 Месяц назад +2

      You can still farm threads at other spots the only difference is that frogs dont give coins anymore which were used to get gems and bronze pretty fast. I only played regularly without powerfarming and my cloak already grants me 9500 stamina which is still far above average i just went straight to do any activity and achievement. Only thing missing for me are all heroic raids

    • @emiiyaa_
      @emiiyaa_ Месяц назад

      are u fucking retarded? there's no pvp no leaderboard what the fuck do u want? the event was supposed to be a fun event not a competitive one, just play your own game man jesus christ

    • @m_rod9562
      @m_rod9562 Месяц назад

      @Bradolol-tx5pc you okay bud? You’re kinda spazzing out there 🤣😂

    • @camobranson09
      @camobranson09 Месяц назад

      @@m_rod9562 He is in almost every single other most rated thread. I think he's one of the nolifers who farmed like crazy and now he feels attacked so is thrashing about like one of those dying fish on a boat deck.

    • @wanted11123
      @wanted11123 Месяц назад

      so where's the best place to farm threads right now?

  • @Dax-D
    @Dax-D Месяц назад +6

    OMG- Doing Heroic Scenario Dark Heart of Pandaria absolutely destroyed me. The tuning on that is ridiculous.

    • @marcpaulus6291
      @marcpaulus6291 Месяц назад

      Yeah, i did the arena on a fresh 70 warlock solo and it was managable /thus i dont know why you get thrown in solo and not in a group of 3 when using the npc to que) but Dark Heart absolute destroyed me.

  • @Barkebain
    @Barkebain Месяц назад +5

    I was concerned that Blizz would screw up this new game mode, and I was not disappointed. This could have been a great way for Blizz to keep subs up in future expacs by doing it for other old expansions, but now it's likely we'll never see it again. Blizz should have done one of two things - take away all the gains from the frog farm, or give a HUGE buff to all the players that didn't farm the frogs. You didn't even mention the aggro scaling where max level healers pull threat off tanks by simply casting a heal, and so they get killed over and over, and eventually get kicked by the group in hopes that they get a low level healer that will be top DPS, top heals, and un-killable.

  • @sp00g37
    @sp00g37 Месяц назад +12

    I felt like we got lied to with the cloak. they definitely worded everything like all of your stats carry over. its a leveling event that they turned into find your main again and just do constant grinding

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Месяц назад +1

      people just misunderstood, they said you could level alts, not carry over with 0 effort on a 2nd run

  • @dss-homemadestuff8580
    @dss-homemadestuff8580 Месяц назад +5

    Not even Private Servers are this fucking bad.........

  • @davidk5990
    @davidk5990 Месяц назад +16

    they have to put cloacks all on same level with 70 or pandaria is over

  • @bosssavage3325
    @bosssavage3325 Месяц назад +6

    I was looking forward to playing this mode but couldn’t play the first 2 days. This happened. I won’t be paying.

  • @Jaaaaassssooon
    @Jaaaaassssooon Месяц назад +5

    The best part is the cloak being juiced isn’t the issue, it’s the amount of bronze they got that can just upgrade all their items

    • @MaethorDerien
      @MaethorDerien Месяц назад +1

      Honestly the bronze is nothing. The item upgrades mean very little. You don't get nearly as much character power from those item upgrades as you do from the cloak. It is funny because people are completely bitching about the entirely wrong thing. They could make item upgrades cost 1 bronze and it wouldn't be the big advantage you think it is. There are plenty of easy ways to farm bronze to be honest.

    • @herbertherbertson2670
      @herbertherbertson2670 Месяц назад +3

      @@MaethorDerien ???? everything scales with the item level, the sockets, the tinker gems, everything, tf you mean upgrades to little?

    • @Jaaaaassssooon
      @Jaaaaassssooon Месяц назад +1

      @@MaethorDerien go put ur item in the upgrade and put it to max ilvl, then come back and tell me the cloak matters

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Месяц назад +1

      yeah, it'll take forever at the rate of bronze, kinda the idea i think, we're beta testers for a mobile game, not doing the event for fun

  • @TieflingInAJar
    @TieflingInAJar Месяц назад +1

    Only thing that annoys me is that I missed out and to get all the mounts will take longer then it would have for frog farmers

  • @chickensauna
    @chickensauna Месяц назад +4

    I hope every frog farner has their bronze & threads aquired removed from their toons so that they're scaled back with us players that haven't had those opportunities to farm endlessly, unfair advantage so its gotta be fair for all

    • @jaeshin6200
      @jaeshin6200 Месяц назад

      This has never happened with WoW. This is why the motto of WoW is exploit early and often. These people will cruise through this content, being treated like emperors while other people labor away at boring grind wasting time.

  • @cinibas
    @cinibas Месяц назад +30

    I honestly am glad to not feel pressure to farm frogs for hours on end now. But yeah.. kinda feelsbad that some people did in hours what will take me weeks or months.

    • @shesh_o
      @shesh_o Месяц назад +4

      This is it. And is so easy to solve. If you have X amount of gear level and x amount of threads, you get 0 out of frogs, while the rest can get frogs back if they want to rush a little bit or a lot and then the rest can do it normally. Take away the thing that made some strong, and most not, is creating a 2 tier game that is already making the majority mad.

    • @wormtpk9635
      @wormtpk9635 Месяц назад +3

      Don't feel bad, They'll buff the rate of bronze substantially once interest starts tanking just like they always do.

    • @KapitanObvious
      @KapitanObvious Месяц назад +2

      Problem is that as example myself I feel like I did nothing... But I got 70on first day. So I was doing dungeons and some raids. When I got better gear I decide to try frogs. But lizards decide that even during even no fun for people. By fact now we have overpowered players and players who will be looking on them from bottom. What did those farmers? Grind. No-brainer grind and others now dogs hit compare those farmers. I did almost 7k HP and 1k each stat no frogs. How long I need to farm for next 50-70k??? Till end of year event. Yes I will get it. But those who already have 50+k will get 300+k till same time...

    • @josh19251
      @josh19251 Месяц назад

      @@wormtpk9635 bro why do people think we care about the bronze I keep seeing this and im getting angry, no we didnt play the game for the bronze I played the game because I wanted to solo heroic and mythics raids. they have now ruined that im done playing!

    • @LiquidSnake794
      @LiquidSnake794 Месяц назад

      ​@wormtpk9635 literally everyone of the 9 other people who started Remix with me have quit due to the bugs, scaling and severe lack of bronze. Not one even hit 70 before quitting.

  • @BlakeBosin
    @BlakeBosin Месяц назад +2

    the scale of upgrade cost feels like it was based of people frog farming or any of the other slightly lesser farms on the same island.

  • @offed_
    @offed_ Месяц назад +5

    BRO THAT FIRST CLIP OF THE SHADOW PRIEST BASICALLY SOLO’ING THE BOSS WTF

    • @thargs9184
      @thargs9184 Месяц назад

      i've seen a 5 man group solo the sha in a matter of 1 min..the highest hp was a rogue with nearly 2million hp..

  • @WilliamLloydBevan
    @WilliamLloydBevan Месяц назад +2

    One thing i dont get.
    No matter what blizzard buff to help non froggers 'catch up'. Is that the foggers can just do the same activities.

  • @CoconutChia
    @CoconutChia Месяц назад

    thanks for explaining this. I am still level 30 doing quest so I can buy transmogs i was too lazy to reform in retail.

  • @-.-Monster
    @-.-Monster Месяц назад +3

    got into a SoO heroic and a guy did 6 million dps. that was the end of mop remix for me.

    • @alexsantos9581
      @alexsantos9581 Месяц назад

      Wah wah wah some guy farmed and is doing damage in a for fun game mode, get over it loser

  • @TheKitsuneOnihane
    @TheKitsuneOnihane Месяц назад +15

    Don't forget the insane amount of major bugs that came with 10.2.7 that have taken weeks to patch. Guild roster, group finder, ground animations. Weeks. There's a respawn bug in an essential townlong quest that can only be solved with incredible luck or not getting a lazy liar gm that'll flag it finished. It's been a bug for years and they didn't patch it before this launch.

    • @tarroes8797
      @tarroes8797 Месяц назад +4

      and by "years".... this bug was reported in 2013. Its been over a decade.

    • @LiquidSnake794
      @LiquidSnake794 Месяц назад +1

      Try the Isle of Thunder quest: Into the Skies! It's been broken for many years, it's so broken infact that it can break in 3 different way, most people will never be able to figure a way around that flying phase cause you need to cheat the game so badly just to get past that part.

    • @brandonl7759
      @brandonl7759 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@LiquidSnake794Been stuck on that for days. I'm at a loss for what to do

    • @LiquidSnake794
      @LiquidSnake794 Месяц назад

      @brandonl7759 you can walk to the top of the mountain above where the journey ends with some tricky climbing, you can then stand at the top and attack the dragons when they fly past you, takes a while to kill em all but when they die you can jump down to the bossarena and he spawns
      Took me a while to figure it all out but at least you can finish the quest

    • @paukos2391
      @paukos2391 Месяц назад

      @@LiquidSnake794 or just take dps spec.. and burst them, or just farm some gear(threads) so you will have dmg to kill them

  • @Mars-et8vc
    @Mars-et8vc Месяц назад +11

    Blizz should just take the L and reset the whole event.

    • @ic3t3ap3ach
      @ic3t3ap3ach Месяц назад +1

      if i can keep my transmog earned through questing and normal gaming.

    • @Turbotef
      @Turbotef Месяц назад

      Hard agree, but they don' t have the balls to do a move like that unfortunately. Older MMOs did do that though.

  • @alanurbina7057
    @alanurbina7057 Месяц назад +2

    The bronce cache buff was before the frog nerf. So it wasn't a response after the frog nerf as stated in the video.

    • @marcpaulus6291
      @marcpaulus6291 Месяц назад

      thats a wrong asumption. That they "buffed" the caches befor nerfing the frogs does not mean that it wasnt a respnse of the frogs. They could have planned this together but simply choode the one bevor the other, mainly because the frog nerf needed a server reset, thus it was noticed in the morning after the servers reswt.

    • @alanurbina7057
      @alanurbina7057 Месяц назад

      @@marcpaulus6291 the servers were not reset for any of these changes to take effect, and the frog nerf were almost two days later. and the frog nerf consisted in eliminating one of their drops, so not a lot of coding, it would hardly take them almos two days to do that.

  • @OilySeagull
    @OilySeagull Месяц назад +1

    i was there on day 2 and did it for about an hour and stopped honestly knew they were nerf them and now i dont feel like playing it anymore sucks cause i was excited but now i just lose agro to a dps in dgs and im getting hit very hard its just idk over for me i guess once i get my rewards.

  • @willw9691
    @willw9691 Месяц назад +2

    there is actually an easy way out for blizzard here its actually quite simple they take a sample from say between 100 and 500 of the best cloaks equipped currently then they find a decent average from those 100 to 500 cloaks which there should be some decent numbers on them then once a player hits 70 there cloak automatically upgrades to that average stats then players that are 70 that didn't do as much on frogs or at all also get upgraded once they login again or if they to lazy to do that then make a vendor and they can purchase the strongest cloak and done 1 time purchase

  • @jazactane
    @jazactane Месяц назад +16

    Some of us are actually playing for fun (imagine that) and dont really give a rats about the frogs - does not really impact me. The scaling issue on the other had needs to be addressed asap

    • @baz1324
      @baz1324 Месяц назад +3

      just had a tank doing 10x everyones damage in our normal raid....
      i just went afk on bosses -.-
      its ruined the experience completely

    • @josh19251
      @josh19251 Месяц назад +6

      I play for fun and the frog nerf completely impacted me... I wanted to walk around and 1 shot heroic raid bosses solo, "godlike power" as the game mode was advertised. I can now no longer have fun in my way without grinding 90 hours in a game mode that was supposed to be about not grinding

    • @josh19251
      @josh19251 Месяц назад

      @@baz1324 would it ruin your experience too if you could do that or just solo the raid like they advertised?

    • @dildoschwagginz2458
      @dildoschwagginz2458 Месяц назад

      @Bradolol-tx5pc but it has. People stat checking your cloak when you apply for raids its already a thing. The community can and will optimize everything, even a fun event like this. Meta slaves rule WoW. This is why they capped Power gain in BFA and people raged against that too lmao

  • @Charlee4459
    @Charlee4459 Месяц назад

    I just got the best of both worlds... I did the frogs for overall maybe 6 hours before they nerfed it. I did not know about turning in the lesser coins for a box... and they just buffed the box's xD

  • @MuttleyGames
    @MuttleyGames Месяц назад

    I also see a lot of people don't know how to level up fast and complain it's slower than retail. You need to do the normal raids as soon as you hit 25 to get a 12% exp buff per boss. A guy from my guild got 5 levels in a single dungeon on his 4th alt.

  • @matthewkeating-od6rl
    @matthewkeating-od6rl Месяц назад +1

    Can't wait for cataclysm exploit!

  • @Daniel-lg9sx
    @Daniel-lg9sx Месяц назад +2

    so... they "fix" this and let the overpowert dudes stay? how is that balanced

  • @fmj9357
    @fmj9357 Месяц назад +1

    Would it make sense to offer a boost for everyone to match the highest level cloak a player has achieved in place of not having frog farm? Blizzard deemed it an exploit and doesn’t seem fair that people who abused it benefit and everyone else suffers.
    To me seems like a fair trade off, not punishing the farmers and not punishing people who didn’t abuse it.

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Месяц назад

      they should be scaling down rewards as you get more powerful to keep things fair, not just cap it off

  • @Sheriff_K
    @Sheriff_K Месяц назад

    Pearlfin Jinyu rep is broken too, hope they fix that..

  • @joeboii1able
    @joeboii1able Месяц назад +1

    They should roll back the exploiters, increase thread gain, increase bronze drop and lower upgrade cost & sort scaling out

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Месяц назад

      yeah, ppl would care about the frogs if they weren'tr desperate to get better bronze rates, they want those mounts they've been farming for years, 38,000 for each one

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Месяц назад

      still better than retail panda with timeless coins back when you needed 100,000 to get each mount, ppl forget, panda endgame outlasted the life of the expansion, so choose what you buy wisely

  • @parzivel7587
    @parzivel7587 Месяц назад

    Wouldn't have to do any of this to get transmogs that I had already had back that they reset along with mounts that they reset, I used to have well over a hundred and fifty mounts and now since becoming a returning player I only have like 80 and a small handful of the transmogs that I had before. I love how it's perfectly okay for blizzard to clear your content just so they can resell it to you.

  • @weirdodude1173
    @weirdodude1173 Месяц назад

    The frogs are saved! Gear upgrades are painful when I need so many mounts and transmogs, though.

  • @Morbidt123
    @Morbidt123 Месяц назад +1

    It's not like mop remix was fun though... I can run around doing quests and being more powerful than I should whenever I want by just being lvl 10 lol
    Wasn't mop remix supposed to be some alt-lvling, mog-farming extravaganza? I feel like lvling is slower than in retail, and that I need to decide whether to spend my bronze on mogs or on 90 days of character power......

  • @davidscalais
    @davidscalais Месяц назад +4

    I think it’s great some people are powerful and have all the currency makes the game more realistic

  • @kiraos6732
    @kiraos6732 Месяц назад +1

    They should just come out and admit they fucked up with this frog nerf and reverse it as fast as possible. Don't think they will, but that's what they should do

  • @StuartRiches
    @StuartRiches Месяц назад

    I've just been casually running with my prot warrior and so far loving it. Hit 60 today, looking forward to raiding something harder than LFR :)

    • @ltdow94
      @ltdow94 Месяц назад

      sorry to brake it to you but all the lfg groups are just ward cheeseing every boss becasue there is at least one frog andy in every group

  • @ianblackburn75
    @ianblackburn75 Месяц назад

    Had a holy priest with 14 million hp doing over a million dps in my raid last night just from searing light and holy nova.

  • @benwallychow
    @benwallychow Месяц назад +14

    I never thought getting every reward was even meant to be possible tbh. To me it makes way more sense to get a dozen of your favorites with good effort. A large part of having that cool mount or transmog is that not everyone has it, so if everyone got every panda reward, they all drastically lose value. As far as the frog thing, its totally annoying. I feel as though they need to take away that power, or drop all cloaks above xxxx statsto a certain point, or just let people frog it up.

    • @fated2pretend
      @fated2pretend Месяц назад +2

      Spoken like a true casual.

    • @MrSvtcobraman
      @MrSvtcobraman Месяц назад

      NO

    • @alanurbina7057
      @alanurbina7057 Месяц назад

      Yeah, i too dont think you should be able to get every reward, just work towards what you like, seems reasonable.

    • @JamesGang-qw1pe
      @JamesGang-qw1pe Месяц назад

      @@fated2pretend what does this even mean?

    • @benwallychow
      @benwallychow Месяц назад

      @@JamesGang-qw1pe He's saying that because I didn't reserve my weekend for exploiting, that I am not a good gamer. lol

  • @TheBulge
    @TheBulge Месяц назад +1

    I say reset to fresh level 70 for any character that got a certain amount of frog drops or has a certain number of frogs kills. Those stats are recorded already anyway. Those people knew that the frogs were dropping far more than what would be considered even half reasonable so they couldnt even make the defense that they didnt know that they shouldnt be doing it.

  • @Achonas
    @Achonas Месяц назад +4

    honestly, let people keep the power on the cloak, but give a big boost to everyone at 70 with a lower powered cloak for thread drops, and massively decrease gear upgrade cost.
    I think they should also make a formula to nerf any cape that is an absolute statistical outlier like the frog capes while in groupfinder content

    • @TheBulge
      @TheBulge Месяц назад +2

      That's a lot of effort. It is easier and more effective to just rollback the frog farmers with crazy cloak levels to a specific level of power that's consistent with the average level 70 and remove the heroic raid completion credit towards achievements.

    • @J-jizzy_
      @J-jizzy_ Месяц назад

      @@TheBulgethis ^^^

  • @tomclark637
    @tomclark637 Месяц назад +1

    I can't wait to meet all these MOP remix players with rerolled sped up classes.
    Smashing keyboard casually has never been so real as it will be in the TWW.

  • @Cederlof_Ink
    @Cederlof_Ink Месяц назад +6

    I'm honestly kinda glad I didn't resub for this, I was on the fence, but I just don't think I'm gonna bother.

    • @chrismoore2720
      @chrismoore2720 Месяц назад

      Bye

    • @J-jizzy_
      @J-jizzy_ Месяц назад

      That’s a big L bro. Even with this controversy it’s still awesome ngl

  • @carlzen5540
    @carlzen5540 Месяц назад +1

    yeah i was thinking going to play remix. but when i know people are way stronger, and they removed the way to catchup to other people who did the frog farm im not going to play that.

  • @Pontelad
    @Pontelad Месяц назад +1

    problem for me is i am one of those people who didn't do the frog farm but intended on doing so eventually then blizzard nerf it *Fun police strike again* , i went off did all the quests all the exploration all the rares and treasures etc so this upgraded loot from caches is a double blow as i lost out on so much from them too, but i farmed out all the mounts already and i am not sure if i can be bothered now with the xmog, i tried raiding and heroic dungeons a came across the people who did frog farm a couple of times yesterday and it feels belittling to know others now have a huge advantage and i do not feel OP at all i am finding the game mode a huge let down for the hype it had especially at 70 when i am getting 1 shot by mechanics that never one shot me back in Mop i am going to play for a couple of hours today and once i start getting annoyed i think i will be done with remix i wanted to level alts for fun and feel OP as i do not really need them with 40 alts at max level already but that's the prob i don't feel op at all, just the way i feel about all this at the moment.

  • @enzoshink7597
    @enzoshink7597 Месяц назад +4

    Why did u hide guzu ?

  • @Shakalowski
    @Shakalowski Месяц назад

    Literaly they shited on us who didnt farm frogs.

  • @questcore636
    @questcore636 Месяц назад

    the solution is very simple, in dungeons let every boss give you one lesser bronze crystal, let every raid bross give you an epic greater bronze cache crystal, lessers need to have 500 bronze, greater needs to be between 1250 to 2500

  • @Zithir
    @Zithir Месяц назад +2

    buffing the bronze caches makes no sence to compansate for the non-frog farmers. instead of farming, i was doing most of the mayor achivements that rewards bronze caches, so the buff are legit useless for my sake

    • @ShadowZeroFlame
      @ShadowZeroFlame Месяц назад

      Blizzard's response will be "Sucks to suck, go make a new character & do them all over"

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Месяц назад

      you can still get the charms though, which is 2500 bronze every 120 caches if yoyu did the wallshield questline

  • @Dwayneff
    @Dwayneff Месяц назад

    I didn't know about frog farming, I got my mount and my transmogs I wanted. I deleted my MOP remix characters never to look back.

  • @dielotte
    @dielotte Месяц назад +1

    Blizzard in 2024 consists of a bunch of programmers, stoned 24/7, a QA who has no idea about the game, otherwise the frogs would be remembered. A management level that only has the title of manager in their mail-Footer and is of no use. And a modern AI that responds to all support requests with the same text. Blizzard has gone from a cool bunch of people to a sub-par game company, if you outsource the business model, better results, games are made.

  • @carlossombrero3136
    @carlossombrero3136 Месяц назад

    I just had to delete and restore my toon because I logged in and all my gear was gone lmao

  • @NighDarke
    @NighDarke Месяц назад +1

    Blizz apparently isn't going to do anything to the exploiters. They just nerfed the frogs and that's it. Some players now can solo heroics but the majority can only slog along. I'm glad I haven't played this yet. Don't think I'm going to now.

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Месяц назад

      grouping up and farming mobs isn't an exploit, just so you know

    • @sorayashahi
      @sorayashahi Месяц назад

      @@questcore636 It was literally an exploit since it was removed as being a bug.

  • @TheRiddick112
    @TheRiddick112 Месяц назад

    so true!

  • @crusader41ify
    @crusader41ify Месяц назад

    Let everyone do it or no one. We can't just let the few "lucky" ones get away with it.

  • @Galitsapwd
    @Galitsapwd Месяц назад +1

    froggers definitely ruined the Pandaria experience

  • @Raphavitor
    @Raphavitor Месяц назад

    I really don’t care that much about the gear, I’m just after the mounts and that’s it for this event. But would be great to get that burst from the frogs

  • @patrickmurray3846
    @patrickmurray3846 Месяц назад

    it wasn't the bronze or the coins that the frogs were dropping that people were farming for, it was the threads. and people are not upset about others farming the frogs to get a week or 2 advantage, but that bliz nerfed the frog drops.

  • @marcpaulus6291
    @marcpaulus6291 Месяц назад

    Its also absolute ridicoulus that you cant do szenarios and dungeons in a cross faction group.

  • @srnybreak
    @srnybreak Месяц назад

    Why the hell blizz just didnt give back some max cap....

  • @KellyVanHalen
    @KellyVanHalen Месяц назад

    Yeah i thought the cloak was going to transfer to the alts... Its not a lot but I even farmed XP after i hit 70 and the XP threads you get after 70 go to your bags but are soulbound not account bound.... CMON.... I had fun levelling my character to 70 but I tanked a dungeon at level 69, to ding in the dungeon, and get one-shotted by the first mob in the dungeon... You can imagine how THE REST of the dungeon went... After people voted to kick me out of the group left, and we got new people in, I did ding 70 in the dungeon, but i wasnt smiling about it....

  • @hulipatsui
    @hulipatsui Месяц назад

    Blizzard should have let frog farms be since the remix is just self contained mode for few weeks. They should have just let everyone go balls to the wall if they want, since its almost only for cosmetics etc.

  • @al44tec
    @al44tec Месяц назад

    I kind of think the people that exploited the frogs kind of ruined the fun for themselves. But at the same time, I am not sure how much fun it will be after 70 since scaling is pretty rough. I really hope blizzard fix this soon so people that play as intended can somewhat enjoy the experience. It has some decent potential to be a lot of fun for sure. Just needs work as of now.

  • @squashua16
    @squashua16 Месяц назад

    They fucked up s3 of sod because exploit early and often. Killed the phase.

  • @dyshexiia
    @dyshexiia Месяц назад +1

    Fun for some. Not for all.

  • @bobbyn-ko4gq
    @bobbyn-ko4gq Месяц назад

    I literally dont even want to play the remix anymore

  • @arkayenro8225
    @arkayenro8225 Месяц назад

    the bronze problem can be fixed by massively decreasing the cost of the item upgrades and cosmetics - bronze is pointless once you have everything.
    the cloak is uncapped so any frog farmers will only get more powerful no matter what blizzard do to make that better for the rest of us - theres no way to kill that gap, the farmers will always be that much more powerful (to the point where they can solo anything but get nothing from it as they have everything) - but at least the rest of us can get strong enough to counter the scaling issue (until thats resolved) and get our stuff

  • @fluff2945
    @fluff2945 Месяц назад

    im having a shit ton of fun idk lol. Feel like ppl look at others way too much and get upset. Theres been some raids/duungeons where some frog farmer is goin' dummy but it didnt bother me. And I just create my own raids and invite whoever, got through heroics and normals with "regular people" just fine.

  • @VkaraujoHusk
    @VkaraujoHusk Месяц назад

    Their only mistake with the frogs was not nerfing it earlier. After playing with a frogger, I can say it was 100% correct to nerf them, its totally disruptive.
    The scaling problem was/is real, but frogs were not the answer, they were just another problem

  • @-UwU-catgirl-
    @-UwU-catgirl- Месяц назад

    Yeah I tanked a heroic dungeon and an auto took HALF my health. i use mits, I don’t stand on shit it’s literally impossible to do heroic like that

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Месяц назад

      i'm maxed out on gearing, still can't do heroics, it's broken

  • @benl5251
    @benl5251 Месяц назад

    Lol they should just check pibbot's kill counter on the frogs, and compare it with every other player's frog kill count, then send everyone X number of frog's loot until their frog count is the same as pibbot's :D lol then nobody will be underpowered or overpowered, it will just be like starting over

  • @Zerg777
    @Zerg777 Месяц назад

    Decrease all thread rewards from frogs retroactivly but let them keep the bronze maybe?

    • @sorayashahi
      @sorayashahi Месяц назад

      No, remove the bronze too.

  • @00wheelie00
    @00wheelie00 Месяц назад

    I've not played much since hitting 70. Normal content gives shit all. Heroic content I get one shot by unavoidable AoE and hit like a wet rag. It's just no fun, which takes away the whole point of this game mode.

  • @genki4754
    @genki4754 Месяц назад

    Not to mention players who abused farms like this early are able to solo raid content and farm even more absurd bronze/hour as a result. ruclips.net/video/w3-Hz1VqO_I/видео.html
    Nerfing frogs only keeps the people who didnt abuse them out of the loop while people who did abuse them can just move onto soloing raids and continue getting crazy power spikes/threads/bronze.

  • @jetmorbid
    @jetmorbid Месяц назад +1

    Take your hunter and tag frogs before groups do.

    • @arkayenro8225
      @arkayenro8225 Месяц назад

      this is why anyone farming anything creates groups of 3 or 4, not 5

    • @sorayashahi
      @sorayashahi Месяц назад

      Why? They don't drop shit.

  • @GhostRat__
    @GhostRat__ Месяц назад

    Going to be honest I would have just left it I mean the goal is to have fun

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Месяц назад

      blizzard: did we say have fun? we meant to say you can be beta testers for a mobile ga--- uh nevermind that

  • @ETCEcho
    @ETCEcho Месяц назад

    sounds like a scream to keep players paying

  • @matthewkeating-od6rl
    @matthewkeating-od6rl Месяц назад

    WAIT not that overpowered gotta love these new blizard developers.

  • @GhostRat__
    @GhostRat__ Месяц назад

    If it was me I would have just increased the spawns

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Месяц назад

      that would lag out th3e server worldwide

  • @yourpcmd
    @yourpcmd Месяц назад

    From what I've heard, after reset tomorrow, those who exploited the frog farm will be set back.

  • @PatrickF.Fitzsimmons
    @PatrickF.Fitzsimmons Месяц назад

    Blizzard will never change, they will slip back into their old ways.

    • @Iggypox
      @Iggypox Месяц назад

      Actually, some WoW players will never change, regardless of the fact that they should be growing up as time goes by.

  • @jakob18DK
    @jakob18DK Месяц назад

    people are hopping mad over this what the frog

  • @rudyrmn3043
    @rudyrmn3043 Месяц назад

    24 hours I was done with plunderstorm. Same amount on wow remix my gear is far from being maxxed. Stupid blizzard.

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Месяц назад

      lol they're using players as free beta testers for mobile games they're clearly working on, plunderstorm is likely the name of their new game, the remix is a balancing test, we'll see a 3rd next with cata

  • @GOKU-gq8cj
    @GOKU-gq8cj Месяц назад +1

    Bring back the frogs

  • @stexes007
    @stexes007 Месяц назад

    I would laugh my ass off if D4 S4 turns out to have just another dupe exploit on top of this...

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Месяц назад

      whoever balances D4 needs replaced, because they're clearly the same ones balancing wow as well

  • @semiramisubw4864
    @semiramisubw4864 Месяц назад

    ive already seen one person with over 90k stam on the cloak xDDDDDDDDD

  • @christmasham4312
    @christmasham4312 Месяц назад +1

    Glad I didn’t bother with remix

  • @nucleartickz
    @nucleartickz Месяц назад

    i hear all this and i feel i should just .. go back to pug keys instead xD maybe buy some xmog or toys and thats it

  • @Dodowan
    @Dodowan Месяц назад

    Blizz dont care the players who wants to collect everything imo ,if u want to collect everything work 8 hours a day for 90 days , this is fun from blizz perspective

  • @ValdoxGaming
    @ValdoxGaming Месяц назад

    they did the same with incursions and now this, its just a big fuck you to the entire playerbase.

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Месяц назад

      complaining again? here's 50 extra bronze, now be quiet and be a good beta tester

  • @juyll
    @juyll Месяц назад

    Drop the cost of everything by 65%. Job done.

  • @zareethanthegamer
    @zareethanthegamer Месяц назад

    they really shouldnt have used bronze for gear upgrades and unlockables. It feels fuckin awful and if you dont have a ton of time to dump into the event it basically means you have to choose between being able to participate in any end game content or getting the rewards you want

    • @questcore636
      @questcore636 Месяц назад

      getting all 32 mounts, then i'm deleting and going back to retail

  • @Warpgatez
    @Warpgatez Месяц назад

    Guys. Every patch, every expansion, there will be something not working as intended. Instead of leaving to let everyone benefit, blizzard will nerf it and leave the ones who benefited from the exploits alone. It has happened over and over and over again. The only time I’ve ever seen them take action is in legion for the elite infernal exploit.

  • @samsonbrand4041
    @samsonbrand4041 Месяц назад

    The fact they nerfed it and wont revert the others show blizz is not only bad at game design but lazy

  • @nicolasraulin1295
    @nicolasraulin1295 Месяц назад +1

    Izen posts the video > new post on wowhead """trying""" to address the issue coming out 5 min later ^^
    Edit: nevermind, changes are actually completely useless (who would have thought) and orders of magnitude lower than what it should be in order to compensate for the frog farm

  • @arashnozari4042
    @arashnozari4042 Месяц назад

    poor management.
    no reall gms are in game.
    by the way this is called hyperspawn . its a bug that gold sellers and gold farmers use in game for farming . it is called 2x4 groups or 1x4 1x5

  • @sjsr1067
    @sjsr1067 Месяц назад

    Sure glad I only play for fun.

  • @laughingoctopus785
    @laughingoctopus785 Месяц назад +4

    kek he removed guzu

  • @Cipher655
    @Cipher655 Месяц назад

    Holy shit. Thats one fucking toaster as a microphone.